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A FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION/PRIVACY ACTS SECTION
COVER SHEET
SUBJECT: CARYL CHESSMAN
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&#39; CARYL CHESSHAN - VICTIM
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There is attached a copy of-a letter
-2 dated June 22, 19§h, to the President of the
,@ *. United States from Wenzellgbrown who identifies .
q himself as Chairman of the American writers -
H Committee to Save Chessman. .,,/- -r /  -
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of the attached, you advise whether or not any
inyestigation is desired by this Bureau. --
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The Bureau received only a cony of the letter to the ?resident
and for-this reason the receipt of the copy is not oeing acxnowledged.Bureau files reflect that an individual possibly identical with Brown .
wrote a book entitled "Dynamite On Our Doorstep" which deals with theplight of the Puerto [email protected]. According to an article in the _"Daily worker" l2-20-k5, which was very critical, Brown had taught_ ,-English in the Puerto Ricah schools. He was also the author of a 000k .
entitled "Hong Kong Aftermath" and alYegedly was an American teacher
who was:repatriated on the Gripsholm. 00-3v77A! _NOTE:
Eagier office and stated~t§at hgigas ugder contract with ne orienoerg ,P blishin Com an of New ,ork y an was WP H8 a 50° 59°I "ghe Stati of geozgia." Brown requested the position of the Bureau

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2. man is to be executed in San &#39;~ &#39; MO The Presid°§§l~77/assL. ,- _- _// _  D I y l0 _ ~~;_ H I. _ . . &#39;  ~ I:f » Chessman wp as convicted under the=YLitt1c Lindgergh Law". oi ¬alifornia ae~the "éed Light Bandit" responsible for the + &#39;£1kidnap and rape ovary Alice Meza.  _p I do not believe Cheesman is guilty of the specific crimeYof which he has been convicted. I believe that any person,l etudying the evidehce objectively muet feel a reasonable doubt&#39;_ "-- of his guilt. ~ &#39;
-.3 Chessman is guilty of other crinos, to wit, robbingbordellos end gambling dens operating openly in California.However, justice ca@got_be served by convicting e man of onecrime because he hee committed another
. As chairman of the American Writers Committee to Save
_Chessman, I ask t &#39; &#39;I,.
. hat you prevent_ _ a miscarriage of jnstice by_ »---_ examining certain doeunentary evidence collected by Hr. illiwu}§92 Jo Linhgrt, 8 dtective of Richmond, Celifornie, who was3  reteined by the_Committee to find the real "Red Light Bandit"lY92 I The evidence agengt cheesman is dependent almost solelyupon the testimony of Mary Alice Meza.&#39; Miss Meaa&#39;hus spent &#39;some time in inetitutions. *~ H -
The following reports on Miss Meza should be studied: ~
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MARY ALICE MEZA 5Drs.: C. W. Olsen, and G. R- Thompson_
teport of Coupselor Mrs. Rose Weisler:
Mary Alice Me£§ is a 19 year old single girl, who makes her}
with her mother She h b &#39;  D. as sen employee for tne last 8 month:
a messenger, working for the count-. T " * + l
youngster Mary_ y he no-ner states, as r
Alice attended convent, and at high school*ng<
lbhanged to public schools. was morass rsszs THAT rnzs mrce
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S,1&#39;UDENTS, Arm BECAUSE  -rum czwnrs 1&#39;»:-*:r "  1»  =".- s X i}92/30, or- M .::.aT,u:::&#39;FRI E1-IDS . " -
L 5 About a yeer anq a halL ago, she had s very unfortunatetI ,.. , _experience was kidnapped ah attaced RK and wont through a greatdeal of Court Action. FOLLO:.*I?~!G mm, zaozw.-&#39;::n, THU -3:21,; 01:!»:-
FOLLOWING THIS.
and suspicious,REFER TO &#39;I1iIS.- .§&#39;1§{Z.&#39; ?~JOTiI§5R I"i.JELS TIIIVZ SHE HAD
*;&#39; 15% HF."However, of late, she has become very fearful
was depressed and olsted alternvtelv &#39;Q1. ,

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The patient&#39;is quite ill. She has numerous symptoms as f
have been indicated. She is delusional and hallucinated. THEE
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ISSOME QUESTION OF THYROID&#39;DISTURBANCE HRE, and some studies
 &#39;ere in progress; and In regard to this, I think it is incidente
1 to her mental disorder in this case, but it may~be well to have
that completed. I thought the case should be completed, perhag
2 to the early part of the week, so that could be done.
Court: Do you hays same feeling, Dr. Olsen?
Statement of Dr. C. W. Olsen: -
Yes, in this ease the reactive features, the circumstances
that upset her emotions and also the_physical features are a
little more prominent than in most cases. I WOULD LIKE TOTAKI
ADVANTAGE OF THYROID EXAMINATION, and I recommend a continuance
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very well. I may have, of course, delusions, I think I em
possessed. Of.c9urse I can&#39;t be sure because I don&#39;t have too
great ability tothink straight -- when you are nuts, you don&#39;1
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Hr. U. J. Olseh,-and Dr. G. U. Thompson: &#39;
 General physiceI*condition, mental state:
Sthtes she thought people could read her mind add were copy££&#39;
- =her. They repeated everything she dld.would hear people say
things as she who walking along street. &#39;They would soy anythin.w.. _. .
about two years ago and - thét entered hor%mind. was kidnapped
&#39; ._&#39;there wag "attempted rape and sodomy?.
 Tentative diagnoois of mental health:
u Schizophrenic, Pranoid type. Poosible Thyrotoxicosis. 1
_ Continued to October 9, 1940, for further medical study re thy?
Committed to Cadarillo, October 9; l949. " &#39;
. SUEEARY RE MARY ALICE HEZA -
At 1 A M, Jan. 22, 1946, Kiss Eeza wan molosted&#39;by a nan
she described as. joet a little taller than herself, who 1
is 5&#39;4" or 5&#39;5.tall boin~ shorter than the usual. . Q man, browni
hair, light brovh.sk1n, brown eyes, a large hooked nose, fid
&#39; linear scar near right eye, who, Hiss_Meza thought to ho. 15
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and who clalmeq to be Italian. On September SO, 1343, one yeg"
eight months andteight days after-Kiss Heza was molest her
" mother took steps to have her committod.&#39; miss Rose oisler, ir
her report of interview with mother, states: V -M -
"The mothartstatea, as a youngster, she  Harv Alice mega!
attended convont,_and at high school changed to public school.

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1- .&#39;._ STUDENT, BUT IR HIGH SCHOOL, HER STUDIES WERE NOT AS 4009. jl
sax ssnmmo TO HOT MIX AS WELL wITn THE OTHER STUDENTS, AND
. s§cAusE or HER CHANGES IN MOODS, DID NQT RETAIN HER FRIEmos§
 A "About a year and a half ago she had a very unfortunate
experience, was kidnapped and attacked, and went through a gr:
deal of court aétion. FOLLOWING THIS, HOWEVER, THE GIRL DID F-
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FoLLow1e THIS." - &#39; &#39; &#39; &#39;L. I :1."-&#39;
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be felt for Miss Meza, but can one give such credence te her
" A contradictory testimony that one can send a man to his death or
the weight of itgl *
During Chessman&#39;s trial, the official court reporter died
leaving his records in shbrthand. Stanley Frazer, the uncle oi
District Attorney Miller Leavy&#39;s Wife was called in to transcri
the notes. The accuracy offhe transcription, for which Fraser
was allegedly paid $6,000 has been repeatedly questioned;
The following reports on Frazer would appear to challenge-
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RECGRD IN, REPORT OF POLICE BEZIN-1} XIOTIFIZSD OZ- .RZIi5§.i}l§:ID .,92.no _svzcrna. 
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in my pbééossion as chairman
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STATE OF CALIFORNIA!_
COUNTY OF
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LOS ANGELES!of the Committee.
H. DAILEY, being first duly sworn, doposes and&#39;
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he wdrked as an investigator for the defendant in the
case of People v. Chcssman.
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he testified for tho defense in&#39;tha casj of the Peo&#39;l P1.
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itnppears condqnsed rather than entire." " "
~ " _ i__S/ Pat H. Dailqy
{_ Subscribed and sworn to before mo&#39; &#39;
" this 22nd day of?June, 1949.
5/ Linclon Hollané, Jr.
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WILLMAH GREEK, boing first duly sworn, dcposcn and says:
That affian*testificd as a dcfons ass in the cnso Q1
c People v. Chessman. _ -
n - -, -That he has-read the reporter&#39;s transcript, pages 786 to &#39;
&#39; 792; inclusive; and that while-it is rather accurate it appears
abridged and nabent1re; w &#39; 
That the acnitude and conduct of the-deputy district &#39;
&#39; attorney to thc affiant was sarcastic, onaggcratcdly disbc1ievF
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Subscribed and sworn to before me_
this 16th day of June, 1949. -
s/ Lincoln Holland, Jr. .Notary Public in and for the County of _
10% Angeles, State of California
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HARbLD LLOYD DOTY, being first duly sworn, deposes and say
That affiant testified at the trial of the People _v. Chess
and that he has carefully read the reporter&#39;s transcript of_thi
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testimony, pages 714 to 725, inclusive. _
H That the testimony on pages 714 to 725 is not entirelyno. _
complete or accurate and in some noted instances is glaringly
inaccurate: for example, the question and answer of blood
&#39; relationships on page 723, lines 4 to 6,-because the question.
was not asked and the affiant is in no way related to the0~ , &#39;
defendant, either by blood or marriage. __
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That the mistakes shown by defendent in his MOTION TU -
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HALLlE&#39;L. CHESSHAN, being first duly sworn, deposcs 5
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. That affiant has read the entiro portion of the reporter&#39;s
transcript, Peoblc v. Cbessman, wherein her testimony was given
pages 648 to 657$-inclusive, and that this is an inaccurate ano
incomplete report of her testimony. _ j H.
That both those general and specific mistakes, omissions
and arrors claimbd by the de?ondont in his Y"?IC¥ T i I  A.
AU&HHNT RECORD are accurate, to the personal knosledgo of the
Rrrianz. &#39; &#39; &#39;
Thnt&#39;whi1c,>ln every instance, affiant is not able to rope
because of the elapsed time her verbatim testimony she is nblc
to recognize those specific errors shown and to state her test~
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In a footnote. he said; In Sacramento, Gov. Goodwi-
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information concerning the case and desired to know what the Director s reactions
were to various documents which had been supplied by one Wenzell Brown, an
author, who is Chairman of the,Writer&#39; s Committee which was organized for the
sole purpose of preventing Chessman s execution. It is noted that in July, 195-11, the
afore-mentioned Brown sent the Bureau a copy of information alleging that there was
doubt that Chessman was guilty of the crime for which he had been convicted. Noacknowledgment was made of the receiptof this information from Brown. i His &#39;
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the State 0 a ifornia for offenses not within the investigative jurisdiction of theFBI, "the-Director could offer him no assistance. It was also pointed out that data &#39;
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.. iu lieu, :~.u lilo .ll92=5l, =.. 3;iuirs of how much you want
ii 9292&#39;.0i&#39;k. or hon lung _92-on waiit to work, or tile conditions
under ivllicli you ivaiit to work. I&#39;ve been willing to do
a lot of work, and 9292.l_lCl&#39;t. the chive came froni_.as you sug-.
gested of course, is supplied initially by the fact that I.was facing an ultimate, and constantly confronted withl
it, and often right at -the door, almost literally, of they
8115 chamber. But beyond that, I felt pretty strongly aboutl
some of the subjects, connected with my own problem, and 
so there were some thingsfl wanted to say, a1id&#39;I Tfelt that *
they simply had. to be said, and I didn&#39;t know how muchi
time I had left, and that too was quite an incentive which ,
probably normally wouldn&#39;t be encountered in a more}
normal situation." ~ -.,~- 
5 I almost had to learn empirically by the trial and
, error process whether I could handle my own case. I didn&#39;t
&#39;know in advance whether I could or not, for there were
ya great many handicaps being locked in a death cell*
=securing books, doing research, getting materials that wereneeded, transporting or having this matter mailed to the,court, and dozens of attendant or related problems, so Ii
had to just feel my way, as it were."
Did you just wake up one morning and. say that
1 you were going to my to do it yourself, or did you
I ieel that even before you went in that you were going
to light it yourself as mueii_ as you could?"
I believe that my decision was probably made at the
time of the jui&#39;ys return of the_guilty verdict. I was very
much angered by it, an-cl I decided almost at that point,
altnougn the decision was almost emotional -ratlier than
lnteliectual, I would put in colloquial terms really get in
and dig on this myself. I was determined if possible to
give Lliese death selitences back to the State of L;aiilornia;l;ll&#39;JSC, and consequently, it was almost at that point that-lit was an emotional dedication you might say to the proj i.
ect." ~ .
I-lave you ever started your own law lillrary, as
an auorliey would? ., _"uh, I have many bboks of my own that I felt were
particularly needed, and in addition to that 1, had to pre-
p-ilre a book in maiiuscript lorm of my -own with regard,
to ieuelal practice and procedure that related to state?CUui&#39;t Uulli/l92;blOll$ in erlinlnal cases, because 1&#39; could midi
llotlilng directly in relation to eeri;lorai&#39;l, what eoiistltuted,
a iedelal question, new the questions had to be pl~esenteu,§iiiteipretatloii and court rules, and things of that nature."=
&#39;-.-lave you ever tnougnt about liecomlng an attor-t
l
ie :" - ~-&#39; 1l yrhis-is probably the trauma of this experience. I
doubt ii rd eve; -want to see a law book agaill."<
l"i92_iiulii you continue to be a pl0f6SSl0llal1 7? i£"g"VCT" l ~i your lreeuoin.&#39; &#39; A _ 11"l. aiii ueterliilned to become a novelist woith his
and l mink given another ten years l i»;-*,&#39;;li1&K0
i grade. ,!= ..~ - 7 - -, - -- IDo you leel that your books li_.iw had llli. some.
impact that you waiitell Liium to li:i92&#39;l-1&#39;"
 "L UCllC92¢ tliat the books, coupled Willi U16 ¢1l>&#39;<&#39;>l_h=1
had a vely llealtny social impact in the. sense tnf¢_i&#39;i;»L1_92very nature-tile controversial nature-oi this case, D111
the lact that the other side of the picture could be P"
seilteu by a man behind bars, has had a very Sillllililliellect, in my opinion, on public opinion, and it could platcliis pl-eolern llgllt in perspective and right in the I0"], ground oi me public mind, which.I think is a very healthfthiiig and something that is very critically needed. _1 Ive been accused and probably with considerable Jll- tification of being a paniplileteer, and I don&#39;t nil-lid thr
designation a bit. This &#39;pi-elile-in you referred to, is it the problem
l l your case, or of capital puiiishnient&#39;." I.._ .  .».-..__..______--»
&#39; Well, not capital punishment per se, let&#39;s just so
i, theory -of retribution or retributive justice is the 10*:
lically or socially valid approach to the problem of criii:
1 inality."Well. going on that, from the sociological al&#39;i&#39;{-,lc,
lioiv do vou feel that society should t:ikc&#39;care oi those
who offend or coiitiiilizilly bi-eak society&#39;s laws?" ,1 Well, all I_can answer is to give a personal exampl
iI, of course, have been diagnosed psychiatrically and th
word has also been used epithetically as a constitution:
psychopath or a sociopath or by whatever term you rl:
pleased to employ to dcsigiiate one who apparently is .
odds with himself or his fellows and is a hopeless sol"t -
a being or person and I feel that Ive demonstrated rath-
conclusively, without beatiiig my own drum liere, that
is possible to help t.he_se people or to help themselves fii
themselves and they are capable of doing sonielliing cf
ative as well as something negative or destructive or 4
odds with the social system."
_And what about those who can&#39;t be rehabil&#39;i-
tated?"
_&#39; That begins with the prcniise that there :ir =&#39;:hc.
who cannot be rehabilitated. I would say there are llllqil¬
tionably those who cannot learn to adapt themselves
the rules of social living under the present-methods -
approaches that is being used in this problem, but I don
feel that, as a consequence, we should say that it is-ii:
possible completely to reach those men. or to give the
an opportunity to make some sort of satisfactory adjus
iment that is acceptable to themselves and to society.3
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&#39; Joe Nevens, Special Evenls Editor
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Carylhessmanz &#39;i:_he
Face Across the Table
&#39; I By JERRY A. BURNS
Daily Trojan Editor-inCli_ief&#39;
This face across the table from you--with its clear
eyes staring right at you and its seemingly 0ver~sized nose
and liltllth-if might belong to an older war yeteran at-
ending night- school or to a social studies teachers at
..l¬ junior high school or to the attendant at the Union
Station on the corner. &#39;_-** &#39; -,
But it doesnt. It belongs to Caryl Chessman  pro-
nounced Carol! Chessman. You don&#39;t notice whether his
wrists still bear the marks of the handcuffs just removed
by the two burly sheriffs officers in the corner of the
room; you don&#39;t search for physical marks imprinted by
10 years in San Quentin. You just pinch yourself subcon-sciously and tell yourself that, yes, you are=really here
111 Los Angelcs County Superior Court chatting amiably
with one of, the most controversial criminal figures of
modern time. ,
But Chessmans firstl-words send fears flying. He is
friendly, well-spoken with a firm and modulated voice,
and willing &#39;to help out inexperienced interviewers. The
offhand manner with which he casually-answers yourquestions are good proof -that this isn&#39;t the first time hes
been put on the spot in_&#39;an interview.  hf _
You sit down, switch on the tape recorder and spendthirty minutes tossing-back ideas between yourself andthis condemned man fighting for his life daily in the
courtroom. When the session is over you _bid Chessman,
his investigators and the officers goodbye, promising tosee them again at 9 the next morning. ~ .2 l
Today&#39;s interview goes much better than__.yesterdays.Both you and Chessman are more relaxed, more sure ofyourselves. When the questions and answers end and the{ape slows to a stop, Chessman rises to go back to thecourtroom W£l¬l&#39;¬ he will resume his debates with J. MillerLeavy, the assistant district attorney who prosecuted him
in 1948.X";Tolson .__----
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Belmont __.-~-
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f when hgs gone you snapthe.cover on tl:..;_*a~,1_.;&#39;e-]corder,_thanl~: the officers and the investigators for theirllcind cooperation and leave the jury room and the Superior§Courts Department 67 behind. But somehow you don!ileave Caryl Chessman behind. Not only do you have him
icaptured on tape, but you just dont forget the man who
has been called every name printable and some not so
znice . . . the man about whom an anonymous author once
lwrotez Let Chessnian get his justice in Hell.
That&#39;s not the Chessrnan you remember. »You remem-
ber that he was neatly dressed, that he was warm ant:
friendly to you, that he seemed honest, sincere and wii.-
ing to help. And especially you remember that his vocabu-lary, his speech, his intelligence were as good as that of
any middle-class intellc-ctual. Why, this man no more fitsthe stereotype of a rapist-robbcr~convict than does your
:92ll1lV¬l&#39;Sit/Y adviser.&#39; But as you finally get off the elevator and leave thc
c zrt building one question still remains unanswered: .<fC. ryl Chessman--that friendly man fighting upstairs-tl%§
 ed Light Bandit" who left a bloody path of rape an ci  bery around Los Angeles in 1948. Y0ull probably nevi:
now.
Wash. Post and
Times Herald _
Wash. News ________
Wash. Stdr &#39;____
. N. Y. Herold .____._.
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Dally. Trojan_,Speeial Events
_ Thole probably is no more violent
virtues of study" than Caryl Chessman,
a date with death in the San QuentinEditor _
example of the
who has delayed
gas chamber for
ten years by expediently cracking the books."
Breaking all" precedents
uidcspread notoriety due to the
incongruous industry of a man
condemned to&#39;death. These ef-
forts included three_ best-selling
autobiographical - b o 0 lt s. one
novel  soon to be" published!
plus an extensive self-instruction
of the law. &#39;-
Prison Lawyer
This study-of -the law by
Chessman, though. confined in
lcath Row and actually being
.:neduled for the gas charnber
on six separate occasions.»"pro-
duced an unusual&#39;lcgal back-
ground. Chessman wrote "legal
briefs, reviewed cases from an
ever-increasing law library in
has cell and actually conducted
his own defense from his cell
and in the courtroom.
 rimes committed by Chess-
-nan, and to which he has con-
fessed and the eventual judg-
!:.l=llf. of the man.is not the
province of this report. His
judgment and ultimate fate will
oe decided in the court down-
town, following the presentation
of arguments by the prosccutifon
.-- .-1 defense. The&#39;Chessman case
has further ironic twists in that
14 people connected with the
&#39;:.se have since died. including
1.18 judge, Charles &#39;W. Fricke.
--.-ho rst sentenced Chessman
to death. .
Diet of Crime
Crime has many faces. it is
r, growing and major problem
m an apparently. progressive
civilization. In the southern Cal-
ifornia area alone, crime is at-
:1~.<,s; 9, staple diet in the daily
newspaper accqbnts. _.Q05 Angeles Police Chief Wil-
liam Parker. just _a few weeks
.-go, stated that tlielocal crime
rate is alarmingly on the in-
4-1-ease and pointed to the fabled5
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Hi-Local Crhiifesi
Recently one of the biggestlocal car dealers and several of
his salesmen were convicted of.
defrauding and cheating manyi
of their customers. VA suburban
high_school principals teen-age
son committed mprder, appar-
ently" unexplained. a short time
time ago. _
Four of the first string of a local
junior college basketball team,
are making little ones out of big}
ones for acts of vandalism. Lastl
year an SC grid potential w-as&#39;
jailed on robbery charges. And
also lzist year, two UCLA foot-
ballers were arrested for steal-
ing property from,_3r Westwood
apartment. =
School Crimes
Crime has many faces and
many facets. It operates on the
high school level and the col-
lege level, covering subjects of
vandalism. theft, violence. at-
tack, narcotics and a profound
disrespect for la9292&#39;- and reason.
In Brooklyn reqently. a jun-
ior high school principal. who
probably dedicated his life to
education &#39;and the proper culti-
vation of youth. committed sui-
cide. The suicide was attributed
to pressures brought. about by
acts of rape C0lTl_lfl92ili¬d in his
junior high school by youths,
vi-he--i-:~._..&#39;::.=.ality coin:-ri&#39;m?t1"&#39;the
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5a Ferrganflo Valley :1-ca-arer.qt§t&#39;a"6r&#39;r1&#39;_ &#39;_, im.ipaI_.ac.tivi.u;_. l ;&#39; - i1l -&#39;  ¢I... 1.! I- 2 - "&#39; &#39; _, --r »&#39;.- Chessman conducts nis own&#39;dc-
lfensc and. pleads his case to theIt _ 1 C. -- -_~__.__.5 -~ ~  .. .
murder of this princip*a1Tt7r"&#39;~92&#39;as
this the act that reflected the
apathy of a reclining society?
Various Strain Also
Crime has many faces. Vary-
ing degrees of criminal acts
have been committed by mem-
bers of the various s0cial_ and
monied strata. The high-brow,
the low-brow" and medium-brow
have all had their day before
the bench and behind the bars.
Where then is the issue of
crime? 9292here- and when can it
be stopped or prevented? What
is the cost of crime? How then
does the rising crime rate af-&#39;
incongruous I-Example ii
Perhaps exemplifying crime in 
all its incongruitics is Caryll
Chessman. This man has goncl
the route from a series of crim-:
inal acts to imprisonment, to&#39;
release. to crime again and now &#39;.
&#39;is facing the ultimate. The hack-;lground of Chcssman is then in-I . ~ - . ¢ _Qeiisificd by noting his mfchec-f
tlll ability, yet previously |92iSe
ability was exercised in criminal
acts. &#39; &#39; 
Considering this entire pic-i
turc. the Daily &#39;lrojan decided»
to secure an interview with
Chcssman._ Upon being granted:
the necessary consent from allI
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0feet the citizen, if noi in his
pocketbook. then as a potential g
victim of a violent criminal act? .l
parties and cooperation from
the court and the vcounty jail.§
the interview was set up. _ ;
Prcliininnry Resenreli l
Just before finals of last so-_
mcster, we took the tape re-&#39;
corder to the Los Angcles
County Superior Court Building.
Preliminary background rc-
search was obtained by conver-
sations with lawyers, reporters,
police. close friends of Chess-_
man and his private in92"csti»gat-
ors. _
Chcssman is brought to court
each morning at 9330 a,m_ in
handcuffs under armed guard of>~ .-. .4...,..... .
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5&#39;51"! Judge Walter R Firm"-
arrned to have Chesgnqa
jbroulli over from the Los Ar.
roles County Jail at 9 a.m. fr.
this sp."z.i.&#39;il intt-rvi;--.-.&#39;, Jum-
Evans s.<i&#39;Zn  l tho i92ji*92 1~n,,{;
-"l.liHi1lL&#39; the courtroom who"
Chessnian was pleading hi; C25,.
for the half hour intc1&#39;92&#39;i4>w-_-&#39;]~;,.
mulll &#39;11,-< ti-"uf<&#39;0us in iiraniinU.~ 1.10 .Sll&#39;lll .-.1- [;l¢;l;t;.92= for Hr
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ties and your two Daily TI&#39;0j&#39;;1.editors. "
Th9 r0&#39;lO9292&#39;ing gt-Q cl", San, 1.tarts of the questions all
L"5°l&#39;§ Of &#39;31? tam-rec<>1"tl &#39;-
hessman mir.-rvicw -.92~:&#39;th spa ¢
!C&#39;lllg the only limitations. L
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Times Heroin -
Wash. News._____._
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&#39;-ho have to obey at all times all tht illes. whelfher good~@ ¥>=f&#39;6l"wollld you rather have a persoli WlC lll-
iividuality, who might perhaps create something of last-
nr: worth for society, but at the same be a problem to
P?-.i&#39;. Bwause l believe  hat, of course this is the old
..;;lll¢s&#39;S oi the ;-lsii.1llOll llieory, but at the same time I
5;...-l: -that most people realize that there are those who
lo have problems, and who say that our goal is simply
&#39;0 make everybody a law abiding citizen without thought
of what that might do to research, what it might do to,
letters, or arts, or artists, pr anything of that nature, why
I don&#39;t believe that youd have a very useful or very pro-
iuctive, or a"-very creative society. There are inevitably
._0ing tobe certain conflicts between the individual and
=he masses at all times, so when you say that you want
.0 prevent this,_Id have to ask you in turn, do you mean
"hat your objective would be "at all costs merely people
rho obey the law, independent of any consideration whe-&#39;
her or not that" this obeying or submission mi the law
vould essentially mean that, and nothing more."
When "I jrefer to law or rule, I mean plain coin-
mon sense or good conduct, which most of the laws
are usually based. on. The acts that I am referring to,
are armed robbery, armed violence, and molestation,
and even stealing guns. These things I h_ave_ known
about, and these people are personally lM¢Ui8&#39;1>l92t, and
they have done these things, and have realized what
they have done. Now you are referring to the indi-
viduals respect to the community, or to retain his
entity, which I certainly feel is a most important
thing. But the law itself, in reference to the whole
community should be applied to them, so this pro-
ductivity can continue, because these same people may
impede the progress of another porductive person by
the actions that they commit. t _ _"Well, thats true, of course there has to be a- line
Lrawn even if its arbitrary, but at the same tune, before
his interview began, we mentioned Cellini and Villon, and
lliink that they-would have a terrible time in today&#39;s
uciety, and yet look what" they have left for posterity.
Yitlon is said to have written some of the finest. literature
nd poetry that France has had, and of course  ."
ls that the price to be paid then?" " 1
Well, in some instances, it seems to be the story at
rust. Now perhaps with the advancement in psychiatry,
0ull be able to find ways to channel those drives, and
ncialize these. people to an-extent more thanwe have
"one in the past. It seems to be, in some instances, in
reative fields, the inevitable price that must ,be&#39; paid both
-y the individual, and the community. And, of course the
-.nal answer to that, Fm, unable to give you-. Em merely
ble to say that historically, it seems to be th~e_,ci1se."
While I was in the service, I saw how police in
0 her countries have handled suspects, and I even sawfiat some of the&#39;common courtesies were not eve
e nsidered. As the severity of the _case 92v_a_s _greatc v "
1 e &#39;consider&#39;§tion- grew proportionately I-ess.._And A
have also learned while talking with people in other-
l-ountries, and reading, how practices- similar to this
4,¢¢u; by law enformoment agencies in these coun-
lrics, For instances the deputies who are guarding you
ow They probably never have gotten a salary com-
mensurate with the work that they perform. To pro-
tect the average hard-working individual who is Pm"
92-ming for his family, raisin: children, and trying to
progress in his own way. and probably all he expectsl
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.l.in school. In "-,3v of the background of this case?
wo&#39;di:££Jccl that the decision by the court i
 no in your favor and you were set free, what effect would have on these people who
or would this make them thin};
5, we opposite would be true. it what you&#39;re get-
; that they might interpret it as a license..th,em~
&#39;be more violent. I feel that anyone who is famil/i this case at"all, and certainly there are many
.lQ that includes mostly those who have had difficulties
vith the law, have been aware how close I&#39;ve been tr
, execution so long, and have commented on the nature 0:
 this ordeal, an-ti how they donft feel that they would likr
to go through it. I don&#39;t believe that they ultimately woulf
reach the point where they would rationalize this I-hint
and say well, even though he did ten years in the deali-
lrow, that is still all right because he got out. So I cai
do this, and safely feel that I can get out In the firs":
place, if I do get out, it&#39;s only going to be because ulti-
mately there is going to be a decisibn that I wasnt guilt;
fto begin with on the charges. So that certainly I don?
feel that the potential criminality of someone else car
be equated with what might be done with me if the de-
cision is in my favor. On the contrary, I think that ll
would be an experience where they would feel, well, l
better watch out for this, or I might wind up, as a con-
,seq&#39;uence of- having been on this side of the fence, in a
Death Row, in a. _prison for a long time, because it&#39;s easiei
once you have been in trouble, to be suspect-ed a seconci
,t-ime and a third time whether rightly or wrongly."
. Well, how about the notoriety of your case, do
I you feel that like the hooks you have ivritt-en, th_c
press, stories written about you, radio, television, and
press. Do you think that this has aided your case, or
detracted from it, or would you like to say anything
about that? . _
Yes, I definitely feel that it has impaired my abilitj,
to get back into court. I feel that there has been so much
controversy and such a great atmosphere of hostility and
prejudice in view of the nature of the offenses, that it.-=
extremely difficult for the thing to be weighed strictli."
as .3 matter of la92v, and here we run into perhaps one of
the greatest problems of all, and that. is, at what poinl
is the judiciary completely free to decide a case on ii.-_
merits, irrespective of whether it is a popular or an un-
popular case, and how much public opinion should in-
fluence the decision of the judiciary, and there again thr
independence of the judiciary is extremely important I
believe." ~ .-
FI have one fast mathematical question for _vou_
You once said that you were a gambler, and its obvi-
ous that you still are a gambler. Do you think that
your odds are getting better? -
, "I think that I am in a better position than I ever
have been. Once Ive had this day in court, and I W0lllri
like to say right now without going into the merits of
this case at all, that I feel that I have had procedural due
process at this hearing without question, so that thiscase
will be decided this time happily on its merits, I&#39;m con-
fident of that. and I feel that its going to be a fair and
equitaiuirdecisiion. g g &#39; s--4,
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llli$ case myself, and hadn&#39;t been able to hire attorneys
and private detectives to assist me, such as William Lind-iliart. 92v=~ T in .._l have been in a hopeless position. 
"l think that iuusi pruple say the value of it is
*3-&#39;-1 they Uiiiilc it&#39;s a dvicrrciif to people -who might
41¢ intending to couuuit criuies that would be puiiisb_-
effect on you before your prison, term began? Do you
think that the fact that California had a capital pun-
ishment law ever had any deterring effect on any-
thing you evcr did? _ &#39;
f¬Cl3." . >
Do you think that most people in the criminal
world would p_i-efer life or capital pnnislifnent?"
"Well, a&#39;r&#39;e_you referring to ilife imprisonment with
out possibility of parole?"
Thats right. _, " - &#39;
"Well, I can only ailswer for myself, andf not for most
people. I think that the question of course _is merely an
academic one, and is difficult or impossible for anyone
lo answer. Personally, no, I would not want to spend the
rest of my life in prison. No, tliats why I am litigating
this case as I am now, either trying to be ultimately vin-
dicated, or of course, be executed. I&#39;m not looking for
any compromise whatever. For that reason, I-&#39; can see no
lfuture in spending my life behind bars."&#39;
&#39; Before me I have an article in a national maga-
zine writtc-n by you, referring to iuitliorslijp in the
death house, and in itfyou refer to another man who
is condemned to death ivlio wrote a book, -and even-
tually walkcd out of prison, and as you put it, made
a lasting contribution, to American literature. Now
viewing that, and your comparison, I was just think-
ing, is it possible that an attitude might be takeni from this, that a person of literary potential or intel-i lcctual ability can be acquitted by supposed justice
and be sct apart from someone who does not have
92 these inward potentials? 
I  On the contrary, I think it should definitely not, but
of course you have to realize there&#39;s a price tag in effect,
on just this, and I sa&#39;y that without being cynical, and
of course if someone is more intellectually capable, the?
odds are in hisfavor of surviving, the me_rits_of the case ;~aside merely because of his ability. But as far as just
bcing opposed, or the view that should be taken, I would
say certainly not. In fact I would feel that the person
who might be less capable mentally, or an illiterate, or
someone who is not qualified to protect himself, the law
should be morefdiligent in looking out for him.
In view of your background and experience in
prison and out, and your litigation procedures, wouldyou feel that stricter laws enacted could curb the ris-able by deatlullo you think that this ever had any H
Well, I think the opposite is true because the ten-92de_ncy of a person on my side of the fence, and I&#39;m putting
.aside the question of guilt or innocence of any particular
crime now, is to react with a sort of defiant attitudel
toward the possibllity"of execution or the threat that if
you keep on, y-oure going to end up in the  chamber.
that sort of thing I&#39;ve developed in my first book. Insubsequent-books also, Ihave elaborated on this, and I,
think that rather than deterring, it has an opposite ef-1l
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l3 think that the laws at present are certainly adequt-1uvenough to cope with the problem, except P@1&#39;192=1l>$ mii some special new circumstance may 21l&#39;..¬f, 3 -it hut wonY be an isolated thing. On the other h.ind.&#39;I l&#39;I&#39;?lii~¢ U11 lleffort to cope with a particular probiczu I7...» to be élljwith on every level,&#39;and there has to be uiiqucstionabl. in my mind, a unified effort to do it. I think that in um
F they will all have to get together and decide what the_approach is going to be, and put it together as it--wenrather than doing something of an isolated job."Wel.., to try to pin it down in reference to school
and the home, do you suggest that a stricter code bej -exercised by the teachers in the examining -of homa-
work or extra-ciirricular activities, or should the par-
. eiits assign certain curfew hours for their children
, and be responsible for them? &#39; p
. Well, there is always a danger in that, but I wou.say that strictness alone is no solution to anything, blji cause you have of course youngsters who are in troub, perhaps as a result of too muchstrictness. On the othiihand, you have teenagers in trouble as a result of def, ciency in strictness. So I think that the thing that I shou&#39;emphasizeis that this approach has to be_on an inc?
it vidual basis, and has to be met on that level, rather the
,. generally.W How inu,cli responsibility, if any, should a parent
have for the misbehavior of"his youngsters?"I Well,_are you talking about morallyglegally, I
what? Well, let&#39;s try legally."
R Of course there are certain applicable laws Iiilwhich put a certain limited responsibility in this respe-1 to certain offenses; however, I don&#39;t believe that the pa
, ent can be said to be responsible legally. If a teenag
bseems to be maturing much more rapidly, the parent h
{considerably a greater problem making a living for fl
{most part. I don&#39;t tliiuk that we should make the parci:
" Ernore responsible legally, because I don&#39;t think we woi;
tbe contributing anything ultimately to solving the pro
ilem." .  
2 I&#39;ve met people that I would say have rather, high
 intelligciire, and sonic of these same people have got-
ten into trouble with the law, in prison and out,&#39;and
"some have been on the verge of this same difficulty,
and yet they have terrific mental ability, I would as-
sume, in school and out. Some of them 92vli_o. have been
in trouble have been able to rehabilitate thciiisclves
through their owii .iniiialive and with outside help
And yet, these potentially loaded people will some day
erupt while someone is peacefully walking the streets:
and yet they have the intellectual or intelligence abil-
ity to reason, and _to stop these things. llow can you
cope with something like that?*%eii7-i*1hat&#39;92vould be your goal!, merely socialreumir.
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4"  Ed. Note: Today the l!ail&#39;_v Trojan completes the
running of the special tape-recorded interview with
convict~author and self-taught lawyer Cary..,&#39; !l92ess-
- man. Interviewing Chcssman are Daily Trojan Editor-
in-Chjcj _.lcrr_v A. Burns and Joe Ncvens, Daily Trojan
Special Events Editor; The interview, was held in the
jury room adjoining the courtroom where the Chess-
man case is being &#39;{-i-icd_. in the Los Angeles County
Superior Court Building, on Jan. 15 and 16.!
We spoke to those associated with your case, and
they stated emphatically that there are those who
cannot be rcliabilitatcd. With your background and
experience what about this individual, the one who
cannot be rehab.ilita_ted? &#39;
_-_&#39; You are pUtti192g&#39;-me on the spot with a loaded ques-
tion because you are obliging me to answer first that there
are those. and I don".t feel that that&#39;s<&#39;necessariiy t-r_ue.
There may be those who through brain damage or some-
thing are not able to control their own acts, but I think
that thats a medical problem, as distinguished from a
penalogical or a criminological one. Now if you mean sim-
ply that there are those who are committed to the propo-
sition philosophically, "that the way to exist is to exist
violently, or to exist bghpreying on society, I dont think
thats&#39; true; because I believe that they have a problem,
and even though it may be buried inside themselves, I
think with the advance in psychiatric methods and psy-
chiatric tools and techniques, that we will reach the point
where we&#39;re able to look inside the man, and come cer-
tainly with more reasonable explanations for the crim-
inality rather than trypto punish, we&#39;ll try to approach
it with as much as any other mental affliction or aber-
ration and tr to treat it and correct it." &#39; . Y
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