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FOIPA COVER SHEET
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
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PRIVACY ACTS
SUBJECT: BARKER/KARPIS GANG
BREMER KIDNAPPING
FILE NUMBER: 7-576
SECTION : 138
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Dayton each and vicinity, without discovery I
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.3.locate telegrans possihl received by Ieaver at,.-
charged with harboring Iilliunnleaver and with .... .. . , -
conspiracy to harbor him. certifications forward-
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RHEBBICE: _ p Report of Special Agent ll. I. Ieekins , ,,
J " ville, Florida, September 9, 1155, - ,95 - .._-, _ . , . . _ ._ . &z,4_;,. '-my . ' I~ l._.DETAILS: ~ " s, ~ .4 *1
V Since receipt of the photographs of Iilliun Ieaver and Myrtle
< of all banks and other places maintaining safety deposit vaults, to detemine if V
°1th°1' °1' $11959 Persons have a safety deposit box or other place where they nay,
1 -or could, have concealed money. _ The photographs were displayed prominently in i "'._ _.a_i each instance, and also the names and aliases were supplied for searching of in- '
92 dezes, et cetera, but no infomstion was received to indicate that these persons -W».
were known or had any transactions at the places visited. ihe photographs, eswell
_as muss and aliases, were also furnished to_ the Postal savings Depariznezit of the
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Eaton. Other general inquiries to support hI.r- I =2-.' p [Q
4 -.¢ ' boring charges made. Iestem Union unable to ' *1-.»>~. -. , 1 _~l
Port Orange, Ila. llyrtléaton indicted 10/9/$5 ', * '-' ~
Dton fran the st. Paul Qffice, inquiry has been made at Jacksonville, Florida, V
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Agent was successful in locating IISNN, mentioned in the?
report of reference, who receives his mail i care of General Delivery, = _
Lllacndale, Florida. Be informed that he is _a painter and decorator by '
trade; also does most any kind of similar work to earn a livelihood in e *
this vicinity. He was shown the recent photographs of Iillian Isaver and
Myrtle Eaton and very prcmptly identified than as being persons known to e
him as Kr. and lirspOsborne, who resided about one mile south of him on-Wsigneeyié. 1, md Itated that his knowledge of these people, ena dealings
with then, camnenced in October, 1954, when he was engaged by Ir. Osborne
to olaan up the yard around the house he had Just purchased, an! to do ease
painting and decorating inside; that he was so unployed until the latter ~-
part of December, 1934. For his services he was paid always in cash, lid
on a certain Friday, exact date not recalled, but near Christmas time, 1934,
he infomed Osborne that he would like to have a little money. 1hereuponj,,
Osborne told him he had no money available at home but was going to Jaek- "
sonville that day and would have some money for him the next day. " Osborne
dressed himself and left home about 9:00 1.11,, as Houston recalls, and did V
not return until late that evening or afternoon, and was gone a length of , _
time sufficient to have made a trip to Jacksonville, _or__sane similar _dis-
tance. Jacksonville is approximately_lO2 miles from the point where Ieavsr
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never saw any strange persons there, nor did he see anything oi a suqaicioua
nature, except that he observed Osborne was very reluctant to discuss his,
stated that Osborne and his wife conducted thcnselves in a manner that was e,
not otherwise suspicious at
for services perfonned that Hr. Houston in December decided to quit working ;
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After leaving the anploy of Weaver, Houston said he frequently e
would see him about the village and in naytona, and that Ieaver alwqs
spoke to him, but that he never visited or had any occasion to go to
Weaver's home. On passing there several times he would notice cars in
the yard, which seemed to have out of State licenses, but, not being in-
terested, he made no mental notes as to kind of ears or what licmse
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er. 11; the time he worked there they did not have the mall child foundj-fi~; _,
in their possession upon their apprehension. Ir. Houston states that the f
circunstances under which he secured this employment were as follows: that
he was at the home of Mr. Z. L. Ringler, at Port Orange, in connection with
some work, when Ieaver put in an appearance and requested to have water
turned on at the place he had purchased, and at that time Ieavar mentioned
something about getting a man to do painting. _ jhareupon, Houston Astated,.__ t ',:_-52 :27-pr ._ -Q.- r» _- -'J1f4';*§*:1 3 ~,;';_~_-~,»_ ->
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in Ieaver several days later telling him to cane to work. It seems that ,
Mrfingler is a winter resident at Port Orange, Florida, and during the _;
summer resides at 910 South Second Street, 'Elkhart, Indiana; also an-1='£u ""'
owns considerable property at Port Orange, and operates a mall water sys-
tem there. The place where he resides while in the south is one of the A
nearest places to the premises occupied by Ieaver, and it is possible that
he may have had some dealings with Ieaver, or possessed some knowledge - A
by observation or otherwise, having lived so close to Ieaver, Imich would _ ..
help to support the Govez-ment's charge of harboring against Myrtle Eaton; ':
and also give some indication es to who may have visited Ieaver. '1'his latter
item may have come to lir. Ring1er'a attention through observation of strange
automobiles with out of the state licenses thereon, or strangers appearing l '
in the vicinity. A lead is being set out to have him interviewed. -
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ids, and who infomed Agents on e previous visit hers that Iasver had re-' ~
ceived several telegrams through Deytona Beach, was again interviewed. i-'}'-.i--
He stated that he had made strenuous effort $0 recall something in
to these telegrans , especially the dates of sane, and had also discussed I a
the matter with his wife, who knew of the incident, i-but they w'ere_"not able ~
to ,thr0w any further light on the matter, except that he felt reasonably .
sure the wires were received during the months of February and 1&ai~ch,"l955.1>;
_I'he Jacksonville Office has previously advised that effort to locate suelij-;;;
wires was made very extensively by the Manager of the Iestern Union in
Jacksonville, who is a close and willing cooperator with the Jacksonville
Office, in whose office copies of wires received at Daytona Beach are filed
for audit purposes. _ '
On returning to Daytona Beach, the local Manager of the western
U111 Offiee at that place, BR. FRE1l..U'I'H, was interviewed, and he stated
that at the request of his superior, Mr. Istkins, Jacksonville, they had "1
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Assistant Postmaster, was again interviewed for any infom n she ,. . _- -.
might have. Photographs of Igaver and Eaton, were displayed to her,_.. _ it
-_ identified as being persons known to her as Ir. am
Mrs. Osborne. Sis stated very definitely thatTr.,0§borne personay ,__
rented Box 321 on 0ctober 'l*'I9SI, p, leftla quarter on {IE6 counter ,_ -
"wa.1§EEéFae7_wiThout waftingjor his receipt, te'1lin_g_fher toplacs sag , _
inthe box and he would get itjate . Iona minber of I_seks.ni'te_1_'_wth__at : __ av-.. a1--9 he was not seen again in the Post 0%ice. However, a woman, whom she has
identified as ldyrtle Eaton, would caJ.l at this box very infrequently,
spaces of several weeks elapsing at times, and get the mail. Miss Yiokers
states, as has been previously reported, the only mail that arrived seemed "* ~
to come from the sane point in New Jersey, which scans to have been writ-"Q
ten by the mother of the child they had adopted, Ilse Vicksrs, states ' 1-"
that she recalls ve definitely that at the time ¢ ._ W i i i i
, 0'EIEIaha,inen the Barkers were killed, that neither of these persons put 4 ,
'in*m-appearance dt the Post Office for a period of six weehe.. __,_A.*_.~_- ;,,~-'
' The photographs of Iillian Ieaver and Myrtle Eaton were again -
exhibited to the superintendent of Hails at the Post Office in naytena _
Beach, am he in tum had than shown to the clerk handling the Postal..- _
Savings Accounts, but no identification could be made. ,_' j j;. ~
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Eaton in harboring Iillian Ieaver was, presented to the Federal Grandtf I - ,-,».-- -
fury at Orlando, I_loridl,'0ctober e, 19:55, ma said body returnedpsn 2,;
dictment the following day containing three oountsegainst Iyrtle Eaton,
the first two counts charging her with harboring Iilliam weaver on about ;:;i_.e._e
Septmfbar 1, 1935, at a point two miles south of Allandals, Florida, end;;,5~j,;_f
the third count charging that on Iebruary 1, 1935, Iilliam Ieaver, liyrtle~=-' .1 _
Eaton and others did conspire to camnit an offense against the United States
to violate Section ldl of the U. B. Criminal Gode by harboring lillin
Weaver, alleging in overt act mmber one that she did exchange currency
at the yirst national Bank in Daytona Beach, Florida, and, act number two,
that she did maintain a home for Iillian Ieaver and assumed and posed to be
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and bond in the sun of $25,000.00 was recanmended by the United States4 ' ,
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to Jacksonville, Ilorida. _'ihe Bureanand the St. Paul, ptticp ye:-_e_ _np-Mi"
Jackeonville, Ilorida, ie forwarding to the United Btatea Attorney, $t¢_-rgtf-_Paul, i!inneeota,- certitiedeopy of _the'indichnent oapiaa tor__Iyrt}if";~--,8-lo,
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eFlorida, septcnbor 1, 1935, lpproprito leads are boing__o_et__t_orth 'beloIi;;;_;
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quiries at the offices oi the _Golt.Patent Firearms ]lanu- 5 3
tecturing 00., Hartford, 0on.n_., to trace the 1'_Ol1W1n§_..,,f"
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' United Statee Attorney, George I.
Sillivan, advieed that on thin date, October 12, l%5, he
conferred with Judge Matthew -Toyoe relative to the poet-
ponuaent er the trial against defendanta Ema!/sums,IILLIAI-1/IIAVKR and CLSSIIf ll:DONLI.D until after January l,1936, due to tin reaieti of removal by CL$IUS llcbmlib
in Detroit at the preaent time. It waa Ir. 8ul1ivan'e
opinion that it ia of extrum importance that IlcDONlI.D
be tried with 8|-HER and IILVZB, and that he anticipatea
that IcDON1I.D may reeiet removal tron Detroit by appeal.
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Attomey Comb: oi Detroit relative to a bargain that night
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that it lcDOHLLD would conaent to removal, hie bail night
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Pleaee have reference to the letter of the Jeckeonvilie office
under the signature of Specie]. Agent R. 1. Lit to the Trenton office,
dated at Jeczeonviiie October 15, 1935- It ie noted therein thet the .
Jeokeonville office received e letter [mi Henry lhke Randell Iritten
on the etetiwer; or the not-e1 Great, I82 Broed Street, lieeerk, lee
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Ion: tilee I111 discleee that on liovember 25, 1935, Randell 7 _
eppeu-ed et the Jeckeouviile office, et which tine he executed e receipt j.
for the ford Y-8 Coupe, llotor lo. 18-1037430» It ie :1 desire thet ~ j
you eeoertein face Speciel Agent Alt ehether on Ioveeber 25, 1935, et -
' which time the receipt me executed by Randell in the neee of Hear}. V
» Stern, Agent Alt discueeed Iith hie the letter which he, Renda-11, _Irete ',;..i
to the Jeckaoaville office, ee noted ebove, Ind Ihidi Ill eigned M
Bury hale Randell» It ie pertieuiu-1; desired that the Bu:-een be I . t
edviecd whether Randell edeitted imving written the letter oi October Q _!
13, 1935 with reference to the rctum of hie eutoeohiiee V. _> 4 ._
The pt92rpO8O oi thie inquiry is to eetehliah definitely that '
the letter of hndnii dated October 13, 1935, is actually in hie on
handwriting»
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Re: ALVIN KARPIS with aliases, FUGITIVE
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Edward Georgllremer, Victim, __ _____,___________
KIDNLPDIG. ____ ________ _;_
Ir. Frank Poakley, 57 Iest 45th Street, Iew lurk City,
Detroit, Ilichigan, during lay, 1955, having dixm r one evening at
the Statler Hotel, and on that occasion Cassi cbonald was sitting/é/ at a near-by table; that while he Coakley! does not know lcDonald
he overheard from the conversation of McDonald and others who were
with him, none of whom were known to Coakley, that McDonald has a
hunting lodge in Michigan and that he has hidden out at this lodge
'"on'*occasions certain individuals who were wanted by the authorities.
Ooakley claims he heard llcDonald say that one individual who had been
hidden out at this place is named Fre<1~Rose, who, Coakley claimed,
was wanted by the New York Police for forfeiting a $15,000.00 bond
in connection with a Loft robbery.9 advised the New Iork Office of this Bureau recently that he was in
llr. Coakley claimed that he understood from this general
conversation McDonald had two different buildings located on his
hlmting preserve, where he had hidden people. Coakley also stated
that after hearing this conversation he learned from various s esin Detroit that Cassius McDonald, along with a man named Eddigittucks,
is the "pay-off" to the Detroit Police Department, and no criminals
can operate in Detroit unless they have IcDonald's permission. Ooakley
stated he mderstood from the general conversation that Rose is now
on the "outs" with McDonald.
is much of the information furnished by. Coakley as possible
was confirmed by the New Iork Office through an interview with Thomas
German, a detective of the New York Police Department. It has been ,
ascertained that Fred Rose has an extensive criminal ' ----
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I telephoned Ir. Hanson, who is in Detroit in connection with
the removal hearing for Cassius licbonald, and told his that he should
take a rather positive stand with the United States Attorney and try to
get this hearing over with. I told llr. Hanson that both the Bureau and
the United States Attorney in St. Paul are fearful lest the attorneys for
lcllonald tied the matter up with appeals, etc. , end force the United States
Attorney to go to trial with the others in St. Paul without llcDoneld, it
being the concensus of opinion that conviction of McDonald will he Inch
easier if he is carried along by the testimony of some of the principals.
Ir. Hanson said that one of the Assistant United States Attor-
neys out there has informed him that United States Attorney Sullivan in
St. Paul has stated that he would be willing to consent to a bond reduction
to $25,000 provided that llcbonald will waive removal and come out to St.
Paul when they need him for the trial.
Ir. Hanson assured ne that he would do his best to get this
hearing set and put through as soon as possible.
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I discussed with Ir. Hanson in Detroit the matter or the
results of the removal hearing in Detroit relative to IcD0neld, and
he advised that lcD0nsld waived removal, his bond was set at $25,000,
in default oi which he was committed to the County Jail in Detroit.
McDonald has been given two weeks in which to make his bond, and 11'
he does not make it within that time, he will be ordered removed to
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Bureau about ten minutes ago.
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DIRECTOR m .. APHONE snzxxn ACTING sAc STEIN TELEPHONED TODAY ADVISING AGENTS -j3§1§¬%%é§
BELLE ORNE ENROUTE EITHER MILWAUKEE OR CHICAGO. I COMMUNICATED THI fj§$KIRKLQD LEFT SAINT PAUL VIA THE AOO ON NORTHWESTERN RAILWAY FOLLOUI§Q%#F_
INFORMATION BY TELPHONE TO SAC CONNELLEY CHICAGO. THE 4OO ARRIVED
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U. S. Department of Justice
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Re: ALVIN£%ARPIS Iith aliases -
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Dear Sir:
In accordance with Bureau letter
dated July 27, 1955, there ere transmitted to
the Bureau and to the offices listed below,
copies of two letters written by Dolorei De-
lsney, who is confined in the Federal Deten-
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letters is addressed to Mr. and Hrs John!¥hrpavicz, and the other to RobertK£eLaney.
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send me their address. Another thing I wanted to know isaabout the "address
Mother sent me. She told me to write her at 4554 Ielain st. mvt that a
terribly poor neighborhood? Let me know all about it, will you? I 'don§j_f,*
understand Liumey every time she writes me she says she is moving to Chicago
and she hasn't got there yet._ I wish I knew_ior sure whether she was for note, *5
I haven't heard from her yet this month - in fact the only one: I have heaiij
from is Mr. 6: Hrs. Karpis. may said Little Ray had quite s hit of trouble
cutting his last teeth but they gay he is getting along okay nolfe " jg-'~-f
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mission bring Mugs too. Boy, that will really he a day jhen I see you all "_1_'__
again. I can't remember than our family has been all at the same place at
the same time. Ills always seemed to he missing each other in some way. lhy 4 ; i
he Ihen I get out of here we can all live together or at least nearto eaeh .f"'~other. Wouldn't that be grand? .2 2 ,1; _. - ; ; e . ,f_=§}<i¢:
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cork you do. How mny times do I have to ask before I get an answer? You l"
must knot that I want to hear all about every one of you. Ihen you answer
this letter tell me, won't you? _ V» '».f'- ' ,_ f___rrf*;_ r;J;."_i'~*{'
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I want to ask you about him but when iey are all said they mean the some thing»-
Is he well and happy? That's all that really mttera to me now. "
I'm glad he is out doors a lot because that's good for him. ' - --
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Director,
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Re: Llvin '2s.1-pie, I. a.,Fugitive @218, et el.
Edward I emer, Victim,
Kidnaping.
Dear Sir:
1 Reference is made to letter dated October 12, 1955,
received from the St. Paul Bzreau Office, with reference to two
zipper brief cases, together with contents, which were forwarded
to this Office to be delivered to Cassius McDonald's attorney.
This is to advise that the two zipper briei cases,
together with their contents were delivered to Assistant U. 8.
Attorney, William G. Comb, at Detroit, Michigan, and after I
careful detailed receipt was obtained they were delivered byMr. Comb and nwselt to Cassius}dcD0nald, who signed s receipt
acknowledging receipt oi zipper cases and their contents.
The signed receipt is being retained in the Detroit
Office tile in connection with this case.
Very truly yours,
D. L. Nicholson,
Special Agent in Charge
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Walter Barlow, Special Assistant to the Attorney_CTenera1, celled
me and stated that after the receipt of a letter from United States Attor-
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tion by the Bureau, he had a discussion with Ir. Keenan, after which he
telephoned Judge Hitter in Florida and advised him that the date set for
the taking of the depositions in Cuba and the date set for the trial in
Iiami conflict with the date set for the trial in St. Paul; that the
Department is advised by the United States Attorney in St. Paul that Ice
Adams is a necessary and essential witness for the Government in the trial
in St. Paul as to the other defendants. Judge Bitter finally consented to
continue the trial of this matter in Florida. The trial in St. Paul, there-
fore, will be tried during this term of court, exact date not as yet set.
I asked Hr. Barlow when he anticipates taking the depositions in
Cuba. He said that since he cannot take these depositions without the
assistance of either Hanson or McKee, they will not be taken until after
the St. Paul trial is over; that the arrangement new is that he will notify
the attorneys on the other side the date which will be acceptable to us to
take the depositions, and get their ideas on the matter, of course. He
said that after the St. Paul trial is over, he will get in touch with Is
as to working out a date for the taking of these depositions.
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memorandum to the Bureau requesting the assistance of either Hanson or
lcKee in making up a set and list of witnesses, and said that this need
not be done until some later date. This will be worked out later.
Ir. Barlow said that the United States Attorney in St. Paul has been
notified by telegraph that the Adams case has been postponed to comply with
his request. I told Hr. Barlow that I would so notify the interested partiesin the Bureau. RECORDED 1 ~r1 . 72/0~
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4 _. _ Jake Sims, Chief of Police, Seminole, Oklahoma, called me by
phone and stated that during the afternoon of October 14, l95§zFord,
4-door V-8 Sedan, battleship grey, was stolen, and was bearing, at
the time, 1955 Oklahoma plates 524-980; that this machine was stolenfrom in front of the Post Office ii: Seminole where the owner left it,
with the motor running, while he went in to mail a letter.
Sims told me he talked with e bus driver shortly thereafter
who drives e bus between Ichlester and Oklahoma City and this driver
told him that he had seen the car between Seminole and Shawnee and that
two men were in it, one driving and the other sitting in the back seat
with a rifle or machine gun in his hands, ready for action, and suggested
that it might be Alvin Karpds.
I furnished this information to Lieutenant Joe Jerkin of the
Oklahoma City Police Department and requested him to broadcast that the
car was stolen at Seminole and that two men were in it who may be armed,
and he stated he would do so. '
Iith reference to the aforesaid call of Jake Sims concerning
the theft of this automobile, I called said police officer on October 16,
at which time he told me that the car in question was recovered the even-
ing of October 14 about eleven miles from Seminole and the young fellow
who stole it was injured with it in a wreck; that this nan is in custody
and is in the hospital, and he is not Alvin Karpis, but e local character.
I celled the Oklahoma City Police Department, talking to Chief
of Detectives Brandon and requested a cancellation of the pick-up order
issued by them at my request, on October 14. I did not inform any of-
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thereof might be armed, as is noted above.
On October 15th, Special Agent Paul Hansen called me from
Tulsa and stated that he had talked with Tony Be on, a Deputy Sheriffat Tulsa and that Benson stated that one Iabelgzzbtree, of B521 South
Peoria Street, Tulsa, telephone 4-5574, who operates a beer and and
wich shop at said address, and a more or less notorious character inTulsa, may possibly be contacting Karpis and Campbell. Tqgitrsbtree is
the husband of label and he is an ex-convict, but they are ct living
together and the husband is said to be engaged in a business similar to
that of label Crabtree. According to the information Agent Hansen ob-
tained, Iabel Crabtree is running around with Norris Grabtree, a brother
of her husband.
Benson told Hansen he was obtaining his information from a con-
fidential informant whose name he did not wish to divulge.
Benson informed Agent Hansen that a few nights ago, posing as
a_cab driver, and accompanied by his informant, he went in a cab to
Iabelis beer joint and remained parked there for sometime; that while
there the Crabtree woman had a fuss with someone in the house and came
out in a hurry, jumped into the cab that Benson was using and asked
him to drive her around for a bit, which he did, and during this ride
the confidential informant got into a rather lengthy conversation with
her; the conversation was general, and the informant told her that if
she did not stop running with a bunch of thieves she would get in trouble,
and during this ride mention was made of "Harry and Alvin"; although
nothing definite was overheard there was an inference that these two,
Karpis and Campbell, had pobably been to label's place.
Tony Benson stated to Agent Hansen that he believed it highly
advisable to place a tap on the telephone of label Crabtree as he be
lieves some very valuable information could be obtained in that manner.
Hansen did not tell Benson he would or would not place a tap on the
phone.
Benson is considered a fairly efficient officer, but he is
somewhat windy and garrulous and does a lot of talking. However, it is
said that Harry Campbell, in the past, has threatened to kill Benson
and Benson would like very much to get even with Campbell. Ioreover,
Benson is interested in an money he can make in connection with the mat-
ter. Agent Hansen is inclined to the view that possibly Benson may
want a tap placed on the telephone of Mabel Crabtree for the purpose
of obtaining information concerning some other activities of label Crab-
tree and her associates and friends, which would be of interest only to
the Sheriff's Office at Tulsa, and I am inclined to share the opinion
of Agent Hansen in this regard.
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This matter was taken up with Ir. Tana of the Bureau on V
October 16, and it was his opinion that no tap would be placed on the
telephone at this time but that the same would be considered if more
definite information is obtained that Karpis and Campbell are contact-
ing this woman.
' Agent Hansen further informed me that at Tulsa he had contacted
Joe Anderson, a member of the Kansas State Highway Patrol and that
Anderson ha told him that he has obtained informatio from an informantthat Tommiégill f South Coffeyville, Oklahoma, onefgher, A1via1$her-wood and fgdgmpbell have on foot a plot to go to the home of sole
wealthy, elde y man, living near Vinita, Oklahoma, whose name, at the
time was unknown, and who has a large sum of money in his home, possibly
in a safe, crack the safe, or make the old man divulge information as
to the location of the money and take it from him. It was said that
the other theives desired to take Harry Campbell along to open the safe
as he is considered an efficient'knob-knockar'.Effortéifere being made to ascertain the identity of the
wealthy man near inita, as it was the purpose of the officers interested
to interview thi man'and obtain his cooperation with the view to cover-
ing the situation thoroughly. Ir. Hansen said that Joe Anderson ap-
parently is getting his info tion concerning this matter from someonewho is getting it from Tomxigenter, said to be a pal of Harry Campbell,
recently arrested at Neosho, Missouri, by Anderson and others and now in
jail at Sedan, Kansas.
On October 16th, Ir. Hansen called me from Tulsa and informed
me that in a further conversation with Joe Anderson he had learned ihgz
the man w is said to be the intended victim of the plot, as aforesaid,is F.u;2*¬:gel, who lives on U. S. Highway #75, one mile out of Vinita;
that ogel is getting old, is somewhat eccentric, but has a son,
Irvin Vogel, who is a District Judge at Iichita Falls, Texas, and that
Paul Sinus, Assistant United States Attorney at Tulsa, had, at the
request of old man Vogel, called the son at Wichita Falls and he is
coming to Oklahoma to take the matter up with the old man and convince
him that he should cooperate with the officers.
Agent Hansen informed me that, according to the best infor-
mation he could get from Joe Anderson, it is the intention of lint
Smith, head of the Kansas Highway Patrol, to have a majority of Kansas
State Highway Police in on this case, calling in one or two members of
the Oklahoma State Bureau; that Anderson had told him that lint Smith
was to call me about it, but to date no such call has been received
from him.
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REFERENCE: - _ Report oi Special Agent K. I. Ileekins, datedx at 92-»'Jacksonville, Florida, September 9, 1935; "* "
Report of Special Agent P. S. Bailey, In, dated 3
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fact that the Ihompsons operated a lling station
near house occupied by Subjects. Bil. and ll1's.""_;;"§'.;.,;-1 , ,
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the office of H. I, Davis Motor Express, Inc. He volnntariJ,y'acc<I'ipa"1ii5"'-"74? *
ied Agent to the Charlotte Bureau Office, where he was questioned"in
detail. Later Mrs. I. H. Ehounpson was'interviewed""§t the Ihom'p'sonhon92e
828;: West Trade Btreet. Idle information furnished by these persons
in complete accord, and in the interest of clarity its substance 'is"set~* ' ~
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station located at Harbor Oaks, Ilorida, the Post Office being Port 7', T
Orange. This station was rented by them from Hr. J. I. Q.1illian,"H-io'
lived at Allandale, Ilorida. The station is situated on United Btates "
Highway #1, three miles south of Port Orange, and an miles north"of_
Smyrna. ~ The Thompsons first met Bubjects Iilliam Ieaver and myrtle Eaton,
who will hereafter be referred to as Mr. end llrsFbsborne, the
which they were known by the mmsm er or October, 1934, '
this being approximately a year and a half after the lliompsons first »
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On Osborne's first call to the filling station Mr. Thompson
was away, and he talked to lire. Blompson. At that time Osborne made in-
quiry concerning a vacant house located about 1% blocks from thefi11ing "
station, asking whether it was for sale, and who had it in Qzarge. " Pre-
viously Mr. Styles, who was connected with a Building In Loan Association "
at Daytona Beach, Florida, had stopped by the 'Ihompsons' filling eta- rs.
if they would refer to him any persons who made inquiries about the house,
if a sale resulted he would pay the Ihormpsons a commission. Consequently,
nre. Thompson referred Osborne to Mr. Styles on the occasion of Osborne's
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and Mrs. Osborne moved in, this being in October or November, 1954. nu ;
Ihompeons remained at the filling station for approximately seven maths"!;
thereafter, and until April or May, 1955, during which time they. saw a_-;,-1',
gas inn oil from the filling station, partly becauseithey were neighbors; "
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Oaks, a man named I Jhite, who was supposed to be a nephew of Os-
borne, stayed with the sbornee for a few days. He had allegedly worked
for the Peoples Drug Store in Iashington, D. 'O., and was re¢uPe1'¢1I928 1'1°
a nervous breakdown. Osborne came to Thompson and told him that he would
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eventually "sold the stock to Osborne for $90.00 in cash, and Osborne ;:...~
was to pay rent to million, just as ihonpson had done. After the
Iir. and Mrs. Thompson remained over for about two weeks, hiring diichtime at the insistence of the Osbomee they took their meals at the
Osborne home. They were royally treated, end Hrs. Osborne proved to be _'.
a wonderful cook. Iimzy Ihite never did ret-um, and eventually the - .
Thompsone left and went to Charlotte, llorth Carolina, where they have it
resided since that time. {through Mrs. Bible of Port Orange, who has ..
visited with the ihompsons once at. Qharlotte since their departure
from Florida, and she has also corresponded with them, they learned j;
later of the 0sbornes' arrest, and had also heard thatmthe Osbornes had
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Mrs. Osborne, Osborne claimed that he was from Ohio, and that he had
at one time operated a grocery store in Iindlay, Ohio. He said that
he did not take an active part in the business any more, but received
money from this business each month. The llwmpsons recalled that after
buying the house, Osborne did not have much furniture, but kept adding
to it gradually, claiming that he had money coming in from time to .
time, and preferred to pay his way as he went. In that connection he
always paid cash for any purchases made. Hie Thompson: said that they
knew nothing concerning any bank accounts of the Osbornes, any safe 5Y;*,_-
deposit box or any source of income. It was recalled that the Osbornee T
frequently paid bills with silver money, and as a result there mas a
rumor current to the effect that Osborne was a bootlegger. Osborne was
quite fond of chickens, and raised quite a few yon his place, ,_;_=_
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a Chevrolet with an Ohio license, which they said they traded in at__.j.5._','l O"
Tampa, Florida, for an Oldsmobile. Ihile living in this section the" ~'{13-»_:
Osbornes went off on two trips, each for over a week in duration. A_1'te_rl
one of these tripe they arrived in the new Oldsmobile. Osborne also '__;~_'
acquired a light Ford truck, which was supposedly purchased at Daytona l_;_,;,.
fen $75.00. According to infometion furnished the Thompsons by lIrse?f='{;~f_."'.928.,~Ruble, Osborne had given up the operation of the filling station at 5'1? -.<'i%.¢e;
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are telephpned from Daytona to Dr. Ialdron at Port Orange, who there-'" '~
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Iilliam Weaver and lqrrtle Eaton-as those of Er. and llrs. 0'eborne_=" ~
respectively, but were unable to identity photographs or any oi ,-
members of the Barker-Ksrpia gang, which were exhibited to" them. "they, '-~;
stated that the Osbornes apparently did not have an unusual nxnnberpt fg; V
" visitors, and that such callers as there were seemed mainly to :_-;-
triends of Hrs. Osborne. However, data relative to each oi the '"""f"?~" " -~
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with her at a hotel, and that she was lousy with y '
money. Thompson did not see her well enough to ' Y
be able to describe her, but said he did not be-
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the Osbernee on several occasions, but the Ihcup-T
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6 inches, weight 160 lbs., build stout, complexion
red faced. -
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and on one or more occasions went fishing with the -
Osbornes and in. and lire. Marsh. He also appears
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standing at door of $1111.13 station - in-. l!'Icmps6n.,
number of pictures of the Ihcxqpsons, and later turned the negatives.-1;-.....
over to the 'B10mp80nB, and the negative fcrthil particular picture"
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has no other pictures of persons to associated with the Osborlel. , 7
The retgm__q1 the negative recei1_e_d_n:m_.h.e.r J.s_not desired; and it
is Being forwarded_to the cincinnati Office, together with one print. » _
?ue'pFfnts of this picture are being furnished to the Ht. Paul Offiee,,,;;_Ti_
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ibune the Associa d Press nen have been n
the burns found ne ensenville, Illinois some nonths ago n"
was that of Will.ie*Harrison. He stated that he wondered what could
be told the Sheriff and Coroner of the place in question.K
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After talking to you I telephoned Gonnelley and told
him how the press had probably secured the information and that
it would be appropriate for him to inforn the Sheriff and the
Coroner that the body of the nan in questionns that of Willie
Harrison, inasmuch as the watch fo92md near the body had been
identified. Oonnelley stated he felt he need not call either the
Sheriff or the Coroner unless they made inquiry of him, but he .
simply wanted to be prepared to advise then if they did. However,
it is not his intention to call them but to await inquiry from them..
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be given out to newspapers, except that in this particular instance
neither identification orders nor any other data could be given
the Chicago Tribune. Connelley will make no statement to the
newspapers but will give identification orders to such newspapers,
other than the Chicago Tribune, as and when they request then.-a
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be given the Sheriff or Coroner or anyone else as to any
suspicions or information we nay possess relative to the identity
of the persons responsible for the murder of Harrison.
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aee him around Bansenvilie at any tine; I also sighed '_
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Sawyer. llonte in Byron Boltdne Sam is sam Golan, who was attor-
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stated that aha eannct understand vhy mmar Iarmor Irote the '
above, atter he already had told heron two different eccaeiona _:_.-f__
that Harry Sawyer was in Benaenville, Illinois; She atated, hove
ever. that it in entirely poaaible that after Elmer tanner arote _
her the first time indicating that savyar aae in Bensenville during
the period in question, he arrived at the conclusion that poeeibly I
thedovernment aaa either reading or nking aopiee or his rail, and
it thia Iera so, he probably acted as he did to avoid being _
upon aa a Governmnt Iitnesa in the coming trial of Harry Sawyer. -.
poasibly Farmer was trying to protect her; tearing that it the _;_.,=>;
Government had knoaledge oi the tact that she vaa aware oi Sawyer!
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Elmer re:-mar advising him that aha could not mderstand hie last
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ease for him Naturally he is curious to know and so_-__ ;,;..._ _ _ K ..... nam Io It's funny but Elmer has not been assigned to "> :_ 'j_;7,
any work there and though he elaime he has been a nodal
prisoner," he is kept in his sell and only allowed
for his meals and allowed out on Sunday afternoons and
that is all. Allderton is working in the shoe factory,
and receives $15.00 per mnth and also receives 15 days
a month off of his sentence, and Elmer does nothing but
sit in a_ eello I thought they could not differentiate" ~
between Farmer and Llldertmf loll; anyway I wonder if.
you would he able jto talk to In Rensoh and findont _;~_"
what was in that statement mmer signed for him. Did
you know nmer had sigied s statement that Harry Sawyer
had not ever been in Bensenville at any time - o -A
was a lie Ba er was in Bensenville, not that it 1'5" e '7 .
makes any difference but wlnt I an really interested in
O is what else was on that paper, In llolieekins,
has signed so many papers and told so nany things that
have hurt him so greatly, that I am reallyshoeked te "
think he would be so foolish as to sign any papers for-
'anyone§ If that paper_is going to be brought into Gonrtat
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we oannot expect any favors frcm the _Gove1-nment in regard
to leniency or eutting his sentence __or anything else;Perhaps both you and m-. Renseh will think me foolish; Y ,-<
and perhaps lawyers do not usually nuke inquiries of
inother lawyer like,thet, but frpnkly I an worried for,
fear he has signed something that is going to hurt him.
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the above letter waa exhibited to special Agent in Gherge "
L J. Oonnelley an August 28 1935, and dieeueeed with speaialwggentTe P. Sullivan and agent, and it wee deemed advieable ._Ganlitt to unit from eaid letter the etatementa pertain = '
Harry Sawyer before eending it away, to: the reaem that it as "j ,'j;§:j_ _ gf_
thought beet that lfolleekiu ehuild not knoe about ".
knowledge oi 8awyer'a preeence in Beneenvillee; -4'§'_f@_f id; I.. - - _> -. , _ _ .,, . _ ~ : . .,92f;'., V-*2 ~@:in.=l~.. ¬_ 1» _ V ._ ~~ :_ 1:1-'-"-Y" -~ -V Agent lmtaeted"Ii§I Oonlirt ax the following day end"_ji-E"92+;;.';¢?'>§; '7euggeeted to her that ehe not mention 1Iarr7_sewyer"e name in her I
letter to lldieeking which aha ed to doe the adventagee forthie were pointed out to and ehe wee entirelg _ i__.tiwe in thie regarde '!he"oiigina1 letter written in I!l»ihandwriting to mr. lloneekine 1| in the pmmm at ilii #111; -_;-~_;~
be retained in the Ohieago _Burean40iti_ae rilee _i'o_r tutinre rerereneee
pehitentiary, Leavenworth, lhneee, on September 6, I, and 8, *92_~
relative to other anglee,et thia oaee, he wee egeeirieally queen _
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t any time pravieualye tamer aigxed thia atetunente ~80 i"92y1rthei"=7..7 _~>'3lit.é;..?:',-,T;=';advieed that it ie hie wnderatanding that amid hldartm, Jinlie 1'%__¥.;.*~: ._;;,'_1;¢ _,.' - if ':.r"~ .-"*'V Iileon and Ollie Berg likewise eigned etatnnta to thin a1feet5~,,_ ,$-.,_,_§,-r..'_.> ~ 4,. 2 _'_ it . _,: 2 _._' _'_v- r ' .. : ' liner rarmer, er ecu-ea; emphatically denied that A V 3
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nremer, he overheard Fred Barker, "Doc" Barker and Alvin Ierpie-¢'._ V _'
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e hoethouee in the vicinity of St. Paul. llinneacta, during the , ' -'
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absolutely certain, he believes that thie boethouee wee obtained ,
h Berry Sawyer and wee ueed ae a meeting plaeee . A ' '
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1 one received 18 000.00: "Dive" Barker, trod Barker, vin Kerpiag e 5Yolney Dewia, Berry Oemphell, Fred Goetz, Hhrry Sawyer, B111 Ieewer, -
ho name !'armer'he- . cherlos ritzgereld, end a Bte Peal detective w ee '
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willing to go to St. Paul to teetify in the coming trial of Erry Vt
' and Bill Ieever advising him that hie ection in thia =-. y5378?!-'9 . 0 e- _ I2, ggrd might encourage the Imited stetee Attorney to favorably cone -Y k. .
in tn future an "%"-_' ' aider any requeeta he, Farmer, might meke e e V" ateted that he had received aeverel communications from the United .5
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