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to Io: River Grove, Illinoie lnher new mick eport coupe, em , %'_§>;-1no I recdl, ehe Ind thie oer in her poeeeeeion only _e few leg: ;;v:{-3;: _
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young girl known to no ee Dolores. To In recollection Bey he! *"
told no at one time last owner that he wee nnnfied. to thie glr ?fT7,:-Yrs,
girl; I have never neon Volney Devin with e womenet en; tile ;--;é§,;_=» g 1'while at Lou1e'e'& 7 *'"~' "- P " if T """ff*?":'f?'P xi. . " ~ -l ' . I. .27 ' I H: ""':"'i"-" 1Q:
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Iellye A photograph oi Irank lash app aring on Division iea- _-1-z._i:_;;; 5 5titicetion order Bo» 1166, end e photograph oi Ire. butwere ehoen»to me, and I~poeitive1y,ident_ity t-hi ea Prank l__'-.-gFrances Jelly mentioned above. Irena» £1; ,. .g1E»_,~,Louie's place for e comiderable length of time, 'end~_¢Pl>IerU 45;to beeell aoqxainted theree P1-en§ 'I reoell, eliaye Iore Q ,;;~';'£Z:§fL§; ;_
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and lire Helen Gillie, end. I poeitively identity tha ee
fa and Helen above referred to; hey vieitel Louie_'e pleee qni _
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two children, and aometimee they here accompanied by home;
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bartender, had apprised me oi his identity, em further that -"I L while Dillinger was there, Louie cernooky always referlleg $9 , ._, 4,, U, _,_,..,, '-.-a . .. rnnf ~ _ ll-¢'~'§'-Ii-3-"'I_: _,.am as mm.»-_--=>w@-<w:»r~::;=>="'**¢'.»-ff" 1; *f*''» . - 1»- ~ .,< ., , , _ > . , . ' .. Y'lJQ,4:_~ . I A i _' _ I __ iv _ _ ,1. ~__.... - . ' 1. ~ 2; .- -- . ..!' ;,.-.-- ;~,,~,» ~..-7. -. »» -.1 1'» {"31 ~:,< -~ A '- -' ~,¢-
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whether Dillinger eaa there, aa I had not eon hie atje1qJ tgq "Iduring thiawvieit. _ .;'_~; ;__e~,_;;;~'<:-:?~|§;i_,»,-,*;*,.*
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away» I have been shown the photograph oifalfged Ian Dehq p "1 ,;_-» ~ ~ ~ __" Chicago Police Io. O-41814; and I par'tialIy identity thiegraph ea that or the man known to me ae '11. I'Iiah to ateie';;+:;5¢¬f?{§:?1:'Y?éTf' _~at thie point that on the norning oi heeecom day thate
" .,_wae'there, ml. z waa ha the oath;-qda, I noticed apiece er .t;_~;_; - "paper with writing on it lying in me water in the -wan wq;'_-§ép¬iq;":,_-Q-_'§,;;_ - a' I removed thie paper, and upozexminlng it I diecovered that <1 -
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.~ "~,' they were held in cuetody by the Governlehte -~ 1; xj ~*g'e92.¢"-5 *~;_%'#~ ~ M? fi ¢ V ;~"- . . . '~ I - . J ';' '1-' ~- .4 5.":-'*" M» e >:.-1»'~+~~- - » "- . ~ - ~ . o _. "9Ir. Levy did not make an appearance at Ioui_e'e place on that Q
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I-cuisCernocky, telephoned the Chicaga Division Office and advised
Inspector B. P. Cowley that Eddie Cernccky had informed him that _ H
his father had died at the mercy Hosgital in Chicago, Illinois, '
after an operation; Upon receipt cf this inform tion Inspector
Cowley immediately detailed Agent Medals to proceed to Louie's..,_~¬ .V - - - A . ~_ _ __,;,.. __.-. - ,_A, v_A;!».-_ j if-'1-" ' __' ,1"-'1. Sigmd! ,1. I.» Medals, Special Agent, i;~f:_;-,¢~ ,-~_A_¢_:;;,-1-_1' ;__ V Division of Investigation,-Z1 x,;;V.;s_;1- 7"-Y .Vj;._1_§V '-;j;;~_;;e».;;i;; 1,_§,<~.:§;;;;3,-,-<-~ '-" . ' ' ..-,1 ,T92'. 4. :".v -~ ~ ' n-"" za$?' ,.'., ___._ _ ~__! t _ V JV: _ 3;: l.f.19°° Bl¥1k°1'I;B!l114:8i$T~g%f§¢ V-_*_:'-4f1.*4-4V",'-'vle,V _- Q __ _~ J __d.92- V "J, ,_.J_:.: r-s;_ _ i E1?"T. f-e'_'.**92i->6{5 F "" _.___§-~ > Ii,_.. 1q92_'_s'V_;;_ _"-.3 - "1 .'-V; ,',1.- '- I- _~_..i'._s» 1,-;'z- ~ 5-. ff . ,'='»-;..j§; >_»:'- -=--+1'lV>m_§g§_ .- _,_ I 1. _'_ I. H, . y ;j_ ~, ; ,__ _ . .; I, :1 *:_.,"'y:,:~:L-e£.'V44q%:Ta::';. - '9 gér.. _»_*
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nowopapara conau-ning his tathor's aaath and tor this'rcasu}hsft . trcvalad tojon livcn-Jirovc by trai@n#to vottor ..,~....1.1. is 1.1 " .-'_ -"_ ma hour 'ait: arrivo.1 -Ii Louzi_o.'s 1§uoo?ia1rt a > ' A . s ' , ..1-_ LA; ' - ~ _a1so gainod his hunt ls hcrctotoro statol; 5 _
* ?f1 3 ladala is vary trionlly with lniziio Carnocky hut ho loos not know ;-.,f.'f3T~;'~"_ 5 _
. "11! #119! °1°1=1 "l*I» 34¢". .¢.4'1.".4_.9*. this ¥..1l0.t_ha!.i921-3. ."""""" ' ' Tathcr had liofat tho loot Bidc Hocpital in Ghioap at 6:80 P. l.,z;"_ '
Bo tcmhar 20$ 1954 that tho wcck pm-cvions ho lrovc his hi to ? P hi I . i ,, .Ianccvillo, Iiooonain, to visit sono triands thora and upon thair _v_.;"¢;-3? _'*L-
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can tn. doctor .mm__.c his ra'1=h.1-" short1y"¥hcroattcr,' aftq; Ihi_c_1L.'-- j =ha hcounc vary Inch conocrnol and that it Qs ahao1utw1,i"*;;:*1_=' ;"= ;:§."~.,;_,ncocssa:-y"that ax. :_.cn.1-A c. takai to a a.._p.1_t_ai_1auu.toiy sq sJ.»
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Chicago, Illinoie, dated Septqnher 19, 1934, Iherein it 1e stated
Page 29 that Jimmy Iileon was releaeed from the Ghieago nlivieioa Qffiie if
on the night er september 1, 1934, after laking a eigned Itl§QQ1l._?1'~T§'.f~; 1;;relating hie knowledge or thie oaeee Upon hie releaeejileoa
that he would me every dfort to aid thie offioe'_;fn fleeatiag J1-.i$§+_¢;Joseph Pe lloren, and that he expected to return tojpring Valley,A noie to vieit hie !1'Qllil'e.__g_O mrther prgxieed that__'he' "iould eein-fg-;;'<;»:~~;nicate frequently with this office relative to hie eftou-te to locate?-;'3>¢;§*7:1~1.Dr. Io:-an. However, he hae not communicated ee he had pronieed, -1;»' e ..
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0. Ge Campbell and John Le Bdnla proceeded to Porn, Illinoie, and " '
there contacted Paul Boland, a brother-in-lav of Lucille Iileon life ~~- oflinny Bolandhadhee t ' ~' ~ e ;:_. ~._.;,-J . ll a theihioego Divieioaoffioe the aq,l"%-r';"Z;:»:_"§_-f:?~-1; g;-evioue, at Ihich _tinej_he took en exaaination fez-sthe gceitio;" * Bvwial As-mt 4n¢e:..:;.t~>1~~@-¢m::~;»~*'=w :=+f-;=~.w in r f~, In/= = ~ * "L .*1=@ 3*: *?~F>¥'%
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stated that she has not seen Lucille since she left Ghicagc '5?" 2.
resigning her position at the Iadison-Ieelerjood hrt; that she meeth .§ L,». .- ._- 1
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he also etatedto.l'a. Lindueyer that Slit IYIIII A after his for failing to return 0200.00 of the $500.00 hill, Ihioh 5 ,given him by Betty h-soy, the fiancee oi hr. Iorexu it this point _ __j§' -¥-}_ 5 ;. . Lindeneyer, Luoi11e's tether, stated that when Jilly appeared etf. 00 'ed1y Iarned Lutille to remain inside the house at hightend not to_ "
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"f Sp:-int; Valley, Illinois, the brother ot D:-ti Joseph P. lo:-ai, suiajeetf;
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Ira. Brady that Iimy vaa taking Lucille to Dr. Io:-en's sister at '!sbe1-naskh,Colorado, and that he no gontnaplstt? Leaving her ggn, but jiI::.'-~ff "pow ehere hoiou1d go aifter doing so V Lodordingito 's_. Brady, Q " ;ptated that §hey Iould drive straight. thnouh snd,_probah].y _ y. t _.ver in shout three an A .4 - - ~-'-g,/Q,,1-._ ,_ '_-1r__~ .V_,_ _=I1._ - 5,, ;_,f,:;». -..-V__ 2.! h' 1-"",'..h_ " " ' ~ - 1!" ., , _ __
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laundry marks from his clothes. She further etatedthat when I_.uoi11_e_ k1:$_* , _ .
Peru", ehe faithfully promised tr:-itrto I13 Brady, and in thii e'onns'e3i*.l3,.".~- '
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ia located in the rear of hia house,
when hie mother thought it sae sate;
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bly one John am. of ?ern, Illinois -15:: have intormatient-e_onoe£rning_'ehereahoute oi,Jiiq_Ii1son and 'Lnoi11s;'i'gento Genbell-tahsd with! V ""9"infthe preeenceet Ir. and I:-s. Iattinoreylsnd he advised thatLeon Jinn and Lucille reoehtly and that they" had to1d"h1n_t5at the'y,_ ; - leaving for Denver, Golorado on Thursday, Beptunher 13,198» %Ko:ev§z-f§¢___§-{-§-->.
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tether: name in Iain I Leon who in ace t - r re ; - I1 . it we ?§=afI I111?! ._,,.,g.
engineer. He reeidee in spring Valley, Illinoie Iith I7 bother, ___,'»{, .,~:.L; '.Ire. Blizebeth Iileon, ad I; eieter, Ilinebeth Iileon. I Iae '7-;f:i};L92f.':i"."::_*~"».¬:>:;
graduated ma the Spring n1iey,~-Inineie !ig!1"lehoe!"til
obtained enwloyaentet the Ieetern Clock qcenpany, Lesalle, 'I11in9ie, L
in 192?, Ihere I nae employed until 19310 e ehniet. I *".~;-é,=:j -- 1;married to Lucille Lindenzneyer er Peru, I1lino_ie_l._nl9$0.__j&;e§'_-1-_ n-'1; =:' . V _-Iileon en:i"I noted to Chicago, I111noie"iniin5 the etter pert R ="'»'¢'- 4,1;1931. Ie firit _1iVed Iith her aunt, Be. Paaehell em the ;{*_f;j'aide or Chicago. 1 became eepereted tron ,1; rite the 1e?tg___part oi 10:1,; _I'then 1-eeiaee tar apprexilote17..$Iq Q0ntlie_at> g; =1;-_ f ._.=_~.-; ;._;.-92mcle'e 192ouee,Ja1nee 5555 Qilding _8_greet§ _Ohie_ago,T..;v Illinoiei It Q: ghile reeldinriith qgnele, Ielen _Be.rroIna1i," ;,,,'-~-*1 ' 12.that I first let Dr. Ioeeoh P. Io:-an in Chicago. Dr. Iiree .*'~-; <__~.-§:':»»'_, t -*
brother nerried U nether e eietere I let Dr. bran on thin v ' "13_j'¢_¥»§*.;
occasion at a_ party at Ihioh tine I explained to him that I Ii ~. 1"
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obtained . room at tn. 11-no; Hotel, em Irving Perk Boulevard, Y f '
is adjacent to the building in ahich nr. I1-en's ettiee is loeated.Y;.%I.1fJf>;..j._.., ' _ _ , - _ ~ .* - _; Q . - 5 1-5» ~_..n" ..;_ ~*- -3, _,92- ,,'.. _ __ '. -» - . l»= _ ' ;".-.~é*2r~; '*">?'" * 1 _- I have been shown photoggvagheyot lusueelllaiheon. :.
crew and/Oliver A. 2:21 and I positively ideatitylaese ea. ,being individuals I to Io M4811! lyrans and "0 _ e' Ierg. " 1 I f
not theee __tIp non during the early part oi 1938 1' !nthe office, ' fDl"S'~=;f.
Koren when he was in layvood, Illinois. I no not introduced to tn...
individuals by Dr. lore: at this tine end, therefore, did lot _ _
air 1.10 m92m~e.wt _1-n1te.a.heerdmr. Iorli 1'e£e1:_$n can ll.81ll eat!
Ollie. The purpose or their visite to loran's eioe, inhylood, Illi-I '_ -
noie Ias nerely friendly as neither Qlin nor" Ollie, to Q recollection,
received any treatmente tron Dr. Icran at that tine. ~ _ ,,-.";.',";.;,=.;
1 o I Iish to mm. at em. point tut 1$'1I'_I_1O l1Ol_ that elitebrought Slim to Dr. yloz-an's office the ifirst tine ae Dlivg BergDr. Ioran had preyfously knOI3'QGh_¢Ol911IH-1" they V e ine¢_'&;_._.._cerated in-_the,pq1itenyary at bl t, 1,1 inois. ;._;;¢ ._
After minor» loved his office to 4861 Irving Perk Boule- 1, ~
vard, Blim and Ollie continued to-visit hie. y On one of the occasions :-%!~.f=,'.;_y- . rat this time I was introduced to than as Slims Ivansand 0llie 3ec'g._#':?_1 1.. 1...:-e sin. referred to .. Bay Gray on one _eccaeicn,'_ i;ut__*t_erecollection -l neverhaerd Oliver rete_rredjto_asother MI» =3 =;»*'-.a»'»i~"1.*,-:=~P"'.~~"-"£5»;*e@1?%1!;'~i!3 ' ' l
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usually alwaye accompanied by Ollie Berg. I did not know there 81in
lvam was living in Chicago at that time until he began taking treat-L.
saente tor syphilie, during which tiie he was living at 626 Iaveland "
Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. _ V L F»-:;.;I deaire to state that to the heat oi Iy recollettion 81in 1'1-equentedéga;
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end _1 identity wen an gheiiimueiile nen'n6@ to no ee _; ,3 7. ~14;end aom 1 poeitiyely §owfiw_ident%if>_" jwith 'nou_-_ - 51;-heme '-111'». mad-nth nerqilemn #5tq4#~=;._!9.t1:i*f=I99-!.iV $4I0:-en's ottice during _theA_te.l.1.uw_1iWi93_$Jder,§reehenteteh- iuui eel j;nu 1%, end 1 believe that he en referijed §_0_I¢'qf&1"en_h] jT==£,;_VIcladden or poeeihly wome other member Q! the !'0i,lwbIigfe1th} ii .1.~_;5~} _
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"Bees" IcLaughlin wee ecqueinted with "8111" Irene er Dllie Bergthie time, and to the beet or In recollection Iclanghlin wee tiret =,.troduced to theee pereone by Dr. Kora eround the niddle et 'Ipril{i.;'; ""'*"" 5*-
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the Irving Hotel, end npon entering eene, I eheerved "B0ee' §0LI41ghIi3¢1jt';;f, .2311:", mane endeblliejerz eit.t.in5,in.the..179¢u:,.wcitin¢ ,l;;_e§*<<2; ; .;_,__ .~}_--ed-.,-.~ ~4_e_-- 4 . _ _ {who wee ehaving in the bathroom. 1 do not recell en: centered: one _ A
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there. However; it nppeered that they hed been __there_i'or IYQOV hlIhl,,_:I-";?$_"_""~" _
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reeponee trcm hie room, I naturally thought ithet he wee in bed in .a¬§':£qdrunken condition, end in thie connection I proceeded to the hotel ;.~
eeked the bellhoywhere I eould_i'ind the doctor, »;l,e__iai9rw_ed_ IDr. Koren wee in joon £11, el he chad just §tehen'wQ_e " 2I went to Roan 211 end knocked, on ,the #99,. whereupon, Dr; laren; t_
* tran within whoit me end I to1d_hin,, _Ie then ppejled le long. Tl V.' inches end I etood in__the G00rIt1_lM___d01lvw:pwd_.,_t9Q11-§"§:Daej;e:the I-rm» Iaemnsm no-:>1=:,1."mh tefetewvgc lm! Mast! *1!-L *1}. .l1~'o'beerv_ed that Dr. lira hed 'e4bot_tle§ Offheer 13' hid hand" tielly intoxiceted. _*Iroln_the_opené;do0r -I; 0ou14'[ 8,00 'idt'o,_th¥ _ ii-'V;];.l;~'j,',Y"V;_§=;tQnoticed 'Boee' lclaughlin, 'O111OWB6r5 em1-s1m- mm bend -'¢"'qen_ ; '
_bed on which wee, epreed e lerge qugntity Of>I0lIYe, I had never"w_e_ej1;_ 1, --*1Inch none; at one time end I do not know the e::ognt,_f¥I.lth,$ :I¢'.;, -'.."7»92 ~;.-;~"~~.5 7} AL been eeverel thousands of dollere. Ln I recall, "Bose" Icleughlln No,at," ,,. 92' .In the center end "Slim" Irene end Ollie Berg were on either wide 4. U >,, - W. ,_>_"_'_._ w v'.e;_:¬,~*é',~;;"1_-_.-_J',, "e - ~ . .. I A. - - i . ~ -_ , .- , _ . _ '7 _ ' w
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eaying, "Never mind, don't aek any qneationa,*I have e deal on and 1'1;
going to eee that you go to aohool I did not question hin any
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__ y and about 9:45 P. I. I cloeed m-. I01-an: office and rent to hie ton in
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_ lin cane into the roan unaoocnpanied. After an e1:ohange___ef greetinga, ,1_-.D;§__;;..n" noticed Ollie hand Bose I01-aughlin a package wrapped in noIIPlP°_3.' 1
heard yhin runark, Don't bother about counting it, it='e_ all ther_e'§- L _e_; TW _
93;l<» '1' ~ -0 eel: to my o ll otio rozinately 12 inch long, Q 0 ,I _, "Z; g 1a§§§£ wide 30;: d 25$: :3» .1110: "Bone" Igaugh in 1-gained".;of,'_'¢'.. '1 thie package, Ollie talked to the door with hint] but in yielnf _dil-,f A--"""" 92»__,~;7' tanoe between them and me, I could "not heir anyoonveraatioi thafnae -$5,;
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, L honeyeee1>eing'exche'ngelereold,e|I' I2 A _ _ > _ ' K IcLeughlin'e previous crilinel ectivitiee _ llpe. ;I" __ _Ic I;._.~_.-_..-.',», ,-; ;; " Jieh to state that I hell no lntint ion thet _ e1>ove,:-etertel,,in Brenner renecn none! until I reed about it In the nenjpuperli ;.-_£¢'»1<I='"_v':70.- _. J H -
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- or -the_Ir_ving Eotel, he he eppereqtbly never nefe _ _ _v ; i-;£%L_,;_
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5 urore or Ihon he wee going to oonteet or eee,_,;.u-e; ,1_p-pycqb,eumed he vented to nee hie eieter and mother up _1_~k_neI ya-evi>oue_1,1i'th¢ , I» they_uere living there nt that ti!-¥,e::f§J;_:'4':?f_[g';5'§f-';§;F:;T:§,§?;_-_ > L 3:. _ 2' _ L 1- _ '1. 2., Z-_ *4-___ . , _ . _;Ji c * Upon arriving in _1urore;,~I1linoie, ee proceed Eu
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f "1-92 , - "-1 have hfen~_'shosn s ghotog-sph o_i_o1n DI . I _: I '. ,; gtively tdsati;1;y_ sens. es the sen, _knosn to ls__?es .'!O92u: h.»~=__%_I.;__;..-__ ; _ ._ ' Ei-5 . .; 9292..;.'-_.'. J " '- 3-~ _ - . 5"?-' - _ _-11 ,- - - ' _ I do sot recall ehst "Curly" told "B11!" st this tile st _.§__ 1,5" f
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introduced to no by Bill as his lite; I have been ehon a !§_0_1.i0£1'92P_1l_. Q!..;, }_ -'hrtle laton and identity cane as 4! the roman above rot?-ed :_§~I.=";7"- ~4 " P iie oi&~~,e*;.-o ,,Im roan;-t i-o.»~s1 ',--_=,=¢ _1. em;-14.. 1-'9!".-< ,1, fmve.observed him put the package above mentioned into e mall ooupartnent pg
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which 1- located in theane building es the hotel." lrI*1eTt'tU"b&§"~$3@???"I observed "Boss" McLaughlin etanding beside an automobile Ihioh ~*'-Q;parked at the curb a ten oars beck 9 '81l.ll'l'.GIl'e I also _obaerve'd hi_=.;= .57 4this time another Ian, aitting at ;the driver's 'sest,,ot thirilr but 1'__¢unable' to _identitih.il_£or the reaeoh,thatI did not Qt a 1 '>j"_"[5 1.l_l1I-ll at thathtinetxi greeting with nozauguuqg tere
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lclnughlin and "Slim" hadta nesting there at this tine. .1 one out "the restaurant I tea linntss later and both 's1m- and n=Lau4;n1u,qeee@-:-:;¢,;='£;:¢.. .gone, and this Isa'ths last tine I'sav IoLaugh1in or heard Q;-thin ,hi: until I read of hilf arrest in the nevepapers,_ __»¬;-".¢=-".;»,,",_ _-f?F',§~54 _~.¢.=;;'*-,;;3_,.%,."'§;§";.»:* 1 ""~. 3* e " '= o On April av, 1:54 mo the ":11-at dc"5ouin'i2iiiq' ¢'u¬in" 1" "= *'i>¢j>'¢r'£'*¢qa¢=m1_»g IcL_sughli_ne"si'!fsit, '._f8lin"i¢qmg'¬6 btfioi _lloran at about 3:00 P. ll. and, ssk_ed_ tor hin. E. mm; ea; 'a_t,t pg; __st_that_time ina_v_er7'd1-unken condition} .-I amid '8lll' that _
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tho throo of as, me: is, 0111» Borg, m-. mm nu myself u1rea""¢eiM-
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- In then introduced to no ea "Shorty" onetime during lreh, B8}, pt, Ihleh
time he Ind e men hon to no ee "81in',?eubeequent1y reeognieed ee being J-_-'-1
identical Iith Alvin Ierpie, Ihoee photograph eleo appeared in eeeeepeper at the tine! obeerved Fred Be_rker'e. photog;-iph; had operated p for the pg:-poeefot ob iterating the impreleionl the en; eee.-' opal:-atiohe took-pleoefih new _zze1e: an noteiJ?§r_!r.'m::i;';,ii,¢e
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lupin wife. -' I eleo let _et thie pleoe for the tiret time George end? j1;;»;;;_
Hurley, than I have previouely identified Oelgphell ud_Arth_nr 4_1 Doe: Barker. @ Ihile infoledo, durin§,th1e__§eriod,__I, ifrequently remit-te'__._'-the Geeino Gluh with "Doe! itellonly it, 1-; ii T. ' ..~> ; 7?. 3; "1 . e --¢ w+~ ~ -~ ~wx?w:=*= 1
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I wee staying st George's house, Dnlloren uh -7811! Iveneetieited sh1:. 1 end as this time Drdloran etezeahewhha just arrived non ..
~21 - believezie was the first time tint Dnlloren had pet Herr! Qunpbell= ~~ his Iifi, Immune, although I em not peeitive; §-_." =;;,_;_*;*--;~-'ni.+1er,_¢y5 j ''347;: ~
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Moron registered there torgne under the heme -of James Berrowmn,end_A~.__ ,».*.92-}_,.;1 beliefs he registered _ui_u__lsr the name" or Isms: 8&ui|on0..,_s i ¢9v.,~,¢g2;@e1_,'A_f-;_§;; ;ainn: mg. I83 used hyv"Slim" Evans etthie time-, in 1ive'q_i_hg_':Eu
tor lb Jut s week or ten days, end to my recollection no one vieited-&e7_%-;=g,._§;"-
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I" _ checked into the Ft.1Aeig'e Hotel, Ollie Berg came to Toledo slnne,"ehd"~§;;",_ ~
V ' he also registered st this hotel under e I121 do not re_oel1~." Be nearly-Aw 7-;
V , A elvayq accompanied e to the Casino Club end__to,~ o - bell éuring the p6r10Q_ ebove.mentio_ned,.,;», jy, ix {F1-,;'T*_;;f' - »' ~ ¢»' :. :-~ -r e V-.v ,._,.; -.~,-'{_-V-;',}~:,_. __,.-~',v~. ; -1..-,.. g
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4.1'°" *"° *1" 8*-Yinw H°=1>_1*=1 iv. at Inma 1!¢@'rurtc::ts.a1onJqa=oeni-..;o._.. _." from that institution on that day. . t - . , ~ ;.;»,-J L
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leaving Harry Campbell Wynone and f'Doo"_Berker drove to the eothge ' ;. ' on the lake-heretofore nnentioned, |md_thie wan th_e_inet' tine__1_,eeif. fend Iynone; Ifeontinued to live et"fth:§ p1!BQ{h0yQ_IQ1'. fgr ; If.
; etterverde end then I moved in within. j known to ipffee chariey;'.,_1;_1ho was employed as e bertender'"hy"I'ed Angie et the -Géeino tlubt !ne*1:»§§
' lived immediately next door to the_ e1ub,. During the period from the tile" Q
Berry and Wynom left for the lake and le tin I moved in Iith Charley *» V 3
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and "Slim" Evans had their apariznent on Ool11ngIoodAvenne,' wh1oh'1'§?*§i;ql;¬ '-_j Judge. neg 'eroj.;nd_ the middle ,o_!-Tune , 193,- 4-dietinc:t_1;§"Cre'e_el1l flthq. 1 1 helped _monF'e'oerta,1n things from the homeofHe1'rypamj>bell5: the=p'=r.1=='=~=n'e. at W1,"-"'1'.1P*¥*="1°=*'i vh'1¢=_-*. #31 §i1J°.,"°PoP°°¢?-3"92'I 3-{»l-ti ~ L2M_Alvi'n harps end his wire, D6loree.' Among other erti'o1ee;=we moved £nwee.=.;5~ -Av.
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and Yolnay Davie as _IO_ were noting the ~e1£1oo_te -Qt; eeo___,£,gg_j;_;;_:§9;r_ __%E', ~Ia:-vie Lparhnant: at that tine, _/"1'h1e_v '1npreae1on;i5_a;':leonr_1i_-hadtact that they were always kept under loo! and kfy in tho o_1oii_td§§ J 92
home or Harry caqaben. Y in moving tifa, e'q"iiTpn7@_tj_:;t;bei1eie ,01Il'e;Be'1'i'%{_;.fcarried the euitoaeee in question from to was Q1 Barriéampballear, an I heard him oomplain on one oeeaeion during ihe proooee -of
met he ma to do all the work. Lt pie up ne§ther,"Doo" nerlper nan-~'».;.3i=§i;Yolney Davie pas able to lo any carrying qha_teoe_7ar£;__due to Qi;It_fO¢_§I;;:-Ii. .1,, . 3 ' _, . -_'. - 33- ._;__ ,-'1-ix »-_ _},:_.~";_?P'=g_ ¢""yP fig? ?1**'5"'.'*_a.J',"o» 1' ¢..~;;;
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oceaeione at the Gaeino Club a girl known toja an "Rabb1te"', dzoee ooz-_re'a_t
name» 1_ believe, 1; Idna llurray.__ mu v¢mn'u1é&'wi_zn vezaefneiie*,;:f;;~'-.-1.Yand aa Ii-ecall: '1 not nun=m¢nemi-3:"i1me_'1i;'iua~ei=,1u;fan*&i1i'g'1§'F?%'?i¢%#%"
Ieek or April 22; 1954, Ihm "Slim" nveaa_end1_eteppea_'a: the',hoIn et_~_-'?.'?:_-1:
Yolney Davie for e brief call, at mien cine": Iae.'introduaadi.to
Volney Davie ae hie rife. 1-have been shown a _phot_c>grapl;_eo_t_,_>]dnn_~
and I poeitively identity her as the vcnnnl have V1-ere;-g-_e'd;;o,]0n_gla_;§§.Z3§ "*-",_;occae ion I took pa; tor a ride in hoof Qankez-_"e §h_ev1','oIQf§
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the mme our Ihich one did not etato. She also indicated to no athdl ."_-_,<.-.>_.@.,¢
time that one had a ehildbut did not etate 1t_IIhO1'OBbQ921tle_ fI have eean
Edna Murray on several ocoaeione while living 1,_n 'ro1edoA,ne92ia1J.y atwtne
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nore er lees a clownamong the gang. _I do _not;kn_ov 'enat_eonneetien J;e_n1_;'§l=__§.__'._dwith this outt 'l191"llp 1 know enere he was or anything e2}5e,_doonc_6;p";i'ng _!_fV _ ..» _' _ 4. Q ' _.--- _ ..- Y ', -3;-f,;fw_*' afbi 4.. ."_ . ,¥.v 4 -IE: j-M en:-i=,=.-'='1>*1"¥*. W i L 4- °§????'¢=" "f.';. 1-92?_f"".-ken, " '~ 0-'7' :' -":' ,~ 41' _ :.5 - ;.- 1 "_ at." - _. ..__ '* .Jt{,.-Q _ ---_N ~'.', .3.} 1 j-5-=3 On or about I ugiei 1,_1§§4; 1111; ___Iae at caéino
"Doe? Barker came in and ma ma was ho had bepnin petro1_t,,iIieni _and there new Drdbran at a cabaret; -tint he; Barker, nakedno nae getting along and l.io'ran answered "I'ine"","II£eui>on he askedhow I was getting along. According to "Doc" Barker, ho informed D!'@§D?_1Y§'§&'?§?'
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$500.00. '8ett¥, '1rccey, gee-1,heve hereteiere;et'ete_d, l_il_ Aitil F33Moran." In me connection 1 wieh ee"e_u;e'_-thee npnerip eieeyi I _,»;;~
eettine mu-1-4 st",-on "me-=we;;-.:;~;::~:~:;1:>~r,e?_:;:,= >11 ,I; at . . ~ e e 5 fr 1 1 '»»e;;»'*i ~*w¥¬'¢§f§*t or~.=.; '-it i; F Iith further rererenee to thie meeting between hr." _,Arthur Ba1'ker,'Be1ker advised m on thie occeeion that wheelie -at 1et the cabaret he, Barker,wee accompanied by two ltelianeg thatMoran eew men he undo the remark "Inc ere theee two "gains" ilteliene-?-§~_,_;§:_:f,i;~,
ite bed enougi to have one eide looking _tor you heeidee two".__ Ltremark "Doc" Barker told Moran met these Yellowe eifuih #0 ' I"
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go to Chioego,1lJ.inoie to get thie money from Betty '1'recey,_and in thin, P
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desired, 1 could ride with him. I agreed to do eo, and on the following
day he picked up up at the Qeeinoluh i_n reieae, and we grove telcn;c,e;e,v§¢1%o-.
Illinois. On this tigip Barker O§¢r1bQ_3Q girl ne hemed eée_»,q.1n£,;f.=g~§*1>-
company with Dhlioran in,Detroit,two dey_e pre_Qicua1y,_ end! at q '1 e
or the belief that thie girl 'wae' poesibli Betty 'l'racey, ae Berker"deecrihed_"i<
certain jewelry end other etfecte in poeseeeion or thie girl which 1 knew,
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gr, "7 ' : ~ Upon arriving in Oh! cap ,Illinoie Doc Barker E-ii-ect;..__l'*j.
to 5248 North vnmu-op Avenue, the home oi Ollie Berg. __pon uteri!; _tH_e,;;5;_,_ '
houee, we met Ollie, rho had e room on the first floor. lifter an exehen3_ef'1q:¬.-3 '-
or greetinge, Ollie called in hie eieter, lire. Kuhn, who wee nu" neger;e'1;;.,;:-f§~»->f,~.
f*<t__ne buildi.n§; and nepeijdj her to prepare e roo|n"tor;_me, infBeti§Q';th§t3;',"§i,§; .-_.i;l wee staying for e.tewtdeye. lire .Kuhnthen directed the
foor end chewed me tony room. ,1 remained herejor only_e,t__ew minutee, 5;, ,2,-5, .
unpacking my begs, and _when 1 returned to 0llie'e room, 1 observed
f'_Doc" Barker had gone. At thie time I_ inquired of Ollie mere 'Doc;,____ ',_-,1; N
end he etetod that he drove any and probably would he beck in two or ,dayee However, "Doc" never returned and tlzie wee the last time I 5»
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~-- .> .....torrect__deta1la,ae_to me transactiona relative to the Brenner tinsel ".-__' _,_ , ,I.'AQIlOy which took place at the 11-uh; ao¬eif oiiéizig i;;ri;;io3¢§?'f;f'*_i§Yf"f*ff '"
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arriving there on or about August 15, 1934, and efteri living there for {'%,_";i<
about two weeks, I called up the office of the Divieipn of lnveetigatidli? ijf ~
Y -_ at Denver and tumed myeelf into Inlay Cdiermen, Bpeoial»-Agent 3,1-_.-Fe ,'»-L{§;;IfL_, ' - chars»-~.?f- _ » r I VT, ;;~ ,_ ,3: vi; » ~I __4; :_,-,-&w"'-;~§'_-Q » '~' " - 1 mm to mm at thie po"1etf_ that -16¢: §¢;a;;1eg&1=_;":cma@§p,'r-e_:.5 - . . _1_;1ino1e for Denver, 1 called on line B0t_§1'B¢a7e'._
'~ »__'__~.%hd tom horit om tipe'that_ 1 m 914111» n_eea'q,!~;aqne;' ~ -9'»-'.,*,=;:L~.:;. ;'_._;Br._h&>ran had cent word Q me irouifa II-1h1l_1 1:riend_thaiti_ge>Iae'~ * t am over to I0 $300.00."-1 .2"-roe rraoii a,aka¢1l_e' _IIh§_t3;d_r, 1 my
I, w ' , had heard concerning him vac that he'_Iae'in Detroit, ohi£8B'"7 - *- -- f et"thet time he had in" hie poseoleim e railny ticke't','¢a1;eiv1ii¢fIi§§§i;;.g.:'1
and would not tell anyone where he was going. Betty '1:-aoey gave .-;_;_
' $500¢0O bill and I was supposed to return $800¢00 of thia money to. Y -; which I tnve not done. » ' L
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no at t.1ia time me advisability oi employing one Iillian Doney, o_r',_ _ lDovney, phonetic spelling! to more or lees take care or these ne|:.."~.;,;_-;,.-1.
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tvo veeks, Dnlloran suggested thet I drive "Shorty" to !'o1ed'o;~ ;;_-I.>.Af_,g§=;_t:.¢j;g'7" -Ohio, as his fingers were sti11_ useless et that tin due to *_the»ej-f*_K'f;§"1_,~f';~§ts*;*$=r,?f"._.
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and Slim. Evan! ".1" mldns frequent t1'11>=..betveen_0h;l¢aso..ecd.;;l£;;.§~-391*;-;};__.
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piéeam in ms hon: of George Iinfieldethe folloiing pez-»'ne:,I. ;..'-.¢»?g;>fI;:=._:;;§-.;-5-¢=¢_lbrley, VD; end l|rs_._ Qeorge Iin1i__eld, "Cur§l.7:,"H§ne,sn, fS1i;1n[1Evene,;_.;,f_;";"-*..~ ~. .4 .
Dz-.l|or'e'nnd'myse_11'a -1 _1ue_ been shq_n _v_erio92§§ p_h_otog1-ephe o1,,$_he §..'_o-f-?Barker-herpie lob, and 1 Identity Arthur "Doc" Barker ee._H. Mor1q,,:.-, ;~..,_ .-_ .
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~ 1 _ ' 0n this evening m'.nmi= operated on the fingers of "Doe"--_i_T» ~
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