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Jeni nere before the Jury on two aiffernnt aocuslona, bring
the slgneé statement of John Ramsey with reference to the
matter of Henry Roan, - yau axamine it and awcr gaaitivuly
on two 0Quai08 thai thnf was nno atatament that was intro-
aueaé befnra tau grani Jury and was not $193010
ro tne beat or my knowletgu, yea air.
.e1l, yau were positive about it, and I shared yau the ether
one; 1 5&V0 you the Oni to sea them both, and L nanaed
au tax Alth utatuaant and I gala "That statement there wan
got signed, wua it?"; oaul¢nt Iaul you, even; you would not
we fnolea. You renenber that, una you have swarm Aerinitely
La @113 jury Acre zhut thc John Ramsey 6onfesaiOn concerning
Z~nry oan was not a;¢ne. Iaw Whht can you do about Lt?
'el1, Z woulé bu glu to say to them that £ cwuld have been
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'n@t Aid "uaparoa givu you to swear to it; aid hi offer yam@n; foney ar tell ywu there woul be uomutning in it fur you?
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He came all tha way to your placa to talk to you, didn't ha?
I ¢idn't really mast Aim Lt my name. Let me tall you how I
zut @;m: Tgere is Q oil well owing drllle Just suuth o£:qy
!l@ce. Q wife And - and wean to Zamn; cgmint name 3$O!QQ
at age oil well ta Jinn now age all wall uu 00miu¢ along,
now they were progressing. Ar. Iuspuril and one or my sons
¢rsv8 ug in a car, in ?asparisn oar.
Qne of yuur B058?
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Let mu ask xu about that. How long had yuur son knona Khaparia?
Iever had seen him beiure in his lire.
Jever ha?
Io sir. and my sun tol no thare was a mun Wanted to see me,
he rather thaupht gerhups it was an 011 maa ar samething,
there baa bean a good many there; and the boys 50 Iraqueutly
inwn to the oil aerricki and ir. Tuaparia exyrensed a desire
to go to tun oil derrick, I don't know how he come to 50 uown
zhcra, but I met him there, and I _ot out or the oar au dis-
coverea Kaspmrit, shook hand: w¢th him, ana ha tol ma that hi
wantad to sea no a little hit and to talk to an ubaut the
gfd Jury ;roouea;nga, and I said wall - "
Juai tuy at the week wan thin?
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nor an¢ i drown name, and Kpnyaris left.
This was at the oil well?
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mile from my name; he gud haen up tnare huing
you where he lived?
I knew wnura an lived, or i uni Zbund cum wnara ha livui,
How far from where gnu live, BQ§PQXlht8l§?
Z dun: want to ha just curtain about this, but £ ;reach at
u Little paint calle summer, and tn&t is near age Jtoe
country, where he has cattle, and wnll Visiting at a nan8
0 name at the time by the name of ineppar we ne;t JYQY ta ate
to look after his stock in tau gastura Lunauy uitergoon, had
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Uxd ha Hug naw lng nu had been wu;tin; {gr you u year Haaae?
J; air, 1 &l&n*t asx him.
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l aon't think Ac meat ta my game; Ls sung to thi; pgigt agar!
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have mean §rawticing law tar twany-Elva years, Kr. Lamb; in:
lush lungar, and 1 think an know a9n0$hin3 abuui human asturtan know lauybrs, and tpxs lawyer &1¢n't gu ta rnur;§1aas ;nn
mat you ta he a witnaaa for tbs infunae without kn: ng what
ym were gaing ta taaairy an, ar talk-n ywu nheu§ your t0It1~
nanyu if yen xant to bu tax: I Want you t¢ tall tna truth.
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ma ta ga an humans: that intarteras wizn my husinonl-'
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want ta knew just what hé aai in you nn gnu raid $6 E1!
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tn: uaaa, Qé we salkaé mhuut aha ease at Rnia, share 5 target
gnney §ra¢r er aback was invalvai»
Q0 An wh»t was tn» ether ans?
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Kg You &nnt rnmember it new?
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that tharn was an unslgnod confession by John Ramsey main by
this mun Kasgaria to ya ?
I think perhaps there were, run air; K would hnvo to any hotnlkud oi that, but we a1An't agree an to it entirely.
I want yam to bi aortain absui who first suggeatea tzat thart
#18 sun a thing an an unalgnoa unnfaaaion of John Ramsay
batons this grand Jury. I want you to be certain»
In vux conversation?
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fell, I mm Just guru zhat ha ;Bkld mo about it; I hui no
Cual ta aak him about Lt, nevar lntaraatd in it in any
way, an I an sure he askO¢ mo abut 1:,
Ha toli you than that therq was an nsigna& confession?
Yen sir, no &1¢. Yea sir, he beliarad there were one-
,nd nhnt aid yam say?
yell, I said I thought they wri bath nnaignadg I think thar
J$Y$ aaybo aha cue uignad .n¢ one net $1 dd..92-.;; '.;;w.t the aliaagro»-:.:an$ you had. with h?
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Jnare ma disagreed and l chin! at she one glans 1n.p@rti@uL@r-
?id you ugre with him u$ than time that there was an unaigned
qonreaslon uy John ¢maay?
all, yea I think I ¢1d-
~hen he first nentiunu it to yea &1¢n'b you 31y yen were nut
JUP5, ycu didn't know?
Ho, I think I remamered it shat way, Hr. Inhring, grobably not
thinking, it might havu inrluanaed no a little, just quickly
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in o;n¢r saris, aid he attempt no garsuae yen Luca has belief
thgt agar waa an unaigne atazement by Jehn Ramsay?
i ¢o;ldn' know Jh Q3P5&31OB wuula Q3un unlaas you would
say why his making the st@£em¢nt wouid z@n4 to make me balisva
in, ;Lat might Ravi influue ma same, at ecurss.
r. Kiparil tel¢ ycu pasitively that he knew aha: thare was QB
unaignaé staiamant by Ramnuf i¢n'i hi?Yes sir, I think he was grit: positive in his remarka-
Ha ha¢ a cap; with him or John Rama0y's eunroasioa, &11nt ha?
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_you diaouna whether there wee en unaigned eonreeeiun;¢#;o;*i
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I didn't coll it to memory at that time, no I120
You didn't ergue with him that the eonieeeion nae uneigned in
the smith ease?
Ho air, we didn't diaouaa the Smith ease at ell.
Ané then he noke you it you would be willing to swear to that
he laid to you?
I believe he asked ne_whet I would do it I was called on 920'
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abut did you tell him?
I told him I would --Did you toll him you knew and could reeognize end idenxity the
statement tho; was preeentev to the gran Jury?
EU I!-InHow did you hoopen so identity that in the eourt room?
3011 I eouldn t answer that; from my remembrance, 1 euppoea,and i reed it and looked at it pretty thoroughly, at the first
part. You men alweya called out attention to the toot that
there nan were not, that they would have no promise, and that
Bluy was included in eaeh ¢onreeeion, end you always oallei
our portiouler eznentien to that, and that being one or the
first paragraphs, --~ they were tone markings on the edge of
the paper, 1 remember it, and I rather identified it tron that
feet, and than from part of the writings; I read eome at the
paragraphs, 1 know, and I think pPOb4bl1 I reed it about all.
You remember the Smith atonement 1 showed you there, Itarted
out by referring to the eonreaaion in inn Roan ease?
tell, I didn't pay so nueh eetention to the written Smith eon-
feeaion because you had Burthert on the stand and 1 thought
that he wee telling e straightforward etory ed 1 believed what
he nae telling and 1 jusi naturally didn't oere no lush for e
eonteaeion an I aid tor hie statement.
Do you reeall now whether er not he did present to the grand
iury an unsigned eienemont gdrported to have been made by
Brneet Brkhart?
well, I don't know eo sure ehetLer you did LI to Zrneet lurkhart
01' not. I have Lu..¬.. thla thing on my mind no rzmdn, I Jtiii Q,[q,;:.;.
_ {dumber we b..'.. statements iron: Dewey Selph, Cole, -_
ill 5 few etatementa? i@;F;I think 1 remoqbor quite I little of the adlph incident. d d
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mind ant forget it and go bunt my buslsoss.
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being in Dcllce,Tcxus, being r. Bailey in dzsrge of use gonsrel delivery window; ct
the main Post Gffice who stated that one of his clerks rcsembers such s ccrson rcitiOklahoma City in connection with this case, uho was said to
mews cgereting a motion picture theater inDellas,Texuc. HisDulles iiie 70,7 "
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Texes investigated but witness could not be found.Oklehomu Sity lsi"r
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lm Sxchenge, being in and out cf the city ccnsieoilg. he f.r
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Hollywood, Calif. He is a member of the Eeunshill Lodge 5L,
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Mdthews and ihat she dees'nct know Forest Iutthews.
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parole of Earnest Burkhart from Oklahoma State Penitentiar
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TITLE;
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PERJURY - In Connection with
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SYNOPSIS BF FACTS:
VIOLAT ION:
COMPLAINT:
ARHESTED:REEF1? ?1??!l1F'.*? ;5f3.1, =*'P.IF??I;
Perjury. Committed at Guthrie, 0klahoma,July 31, 1926, while
testifying as defense witness in the matter of the United States
of America vs. W. K. Hale and John Ramsey, murders of Henry Roan,
Osage Indian.
Filed at Guthrie, Oklahoma, July 31, 1926, before United Stetes
Commissioner by United States Attorney Roy St. Lewis.
July 51, 1926.
Comissioner's hearing waived by defendant, and he was placed
under bond of $5,000.00 for appearance before the Federal Grand
Jury.
GRAND JURY ACTION:Indictment returned at Oklahoma City, September 22, 1926.
WITNESSES BEFORE
GRAND JURY:
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DETAILS:T. B. White and Frank S. Smith, Agents, Bureau of Investigation,
Department of Justice, and Roy St. Lewis, United States AttorneyOklahoma City, Okla. Statement given U. S. Attorney St. Lewis hr
Subject Hesser.
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No previous reports made. This was erroneously overlooked on nccounm
of occurrences happening during midst of W. K. Hale and John Ramsey trial, the detail
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APPROVED ANDFORWARDED:
WASHINGTON
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and ". E. Freelin", at the ¬em-..;- Jail at ¬~?"1>zhom'
City, on &'uesc1s.;', Keven.-Jar 911:, 19:5.
At that time, John E!:r'=se;' at-¬'.8 th=1 hc roulri be {fled
to rreke a stetem:-r;i if he theukht it wouli be of hvljr to
'. !. Hale. Both }.'.r. F'1"eB1lr.{: and Hr. Reward ste Le." to him
that no possible statement he could, make wulc. be of any bene
"rat to Hr. Bale if it were not the truth, but um 1: he mde
a tmthml statement with reference to the killing of Henry
Rom was killed at the place mere his body was fmmd, on Hon
day evening, Jemary 29th, 19225, about 8:30 at night. Phat
C-urley Johnson shot and killed him, and that Ernest Burklmrt
and himself were nearby, and that the arrmgementn had been
made by Roy Bxmch, but who ms in the town of Fairfax at the
time, In support of this, he nude the following detailed.
...l_.§ _____.l. .I abatement.
That some tin? in the summer of 1922, the rxuct oate
I cannot 1-emmber, Curley Johnson, myself and Hank Kidder
drove from the town of Ripley to Y-hizbnng,-_ in Osage Cmmty,
and wen: to the hotel of Eieth Lewis, where I went to bed soon
after reachinr there. Carley Johnson 61¢ not come to bed
until early the next morning, "'e let Kidder out of the
car just before reaching -hizbang. he next morning: I got
up about 8500 0'¢1ock, nn_tl went to 8 cafe for breakfast,
and while there I heard of someone being hi-Jacked the night
befere, about $50.00 being taken in the ~*',;;_ en_- __ I ' I
vent heel-1 to the room at the Lew;-is Hotel ab 1 _ o'clock,
fmmci hzrley Johnson in bed, mt awake,
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me if Efuxly Jcmnsan hmi mentianeé. thv deal t-c. me. ar2Q?- I :;::if~
yes: he had men!-lranli samihing about 1*-~ :'l*:r=:1"-e-ri aifv
V fuhat i tiumgl-.<.': aibcmt £3 _nm1~I and I had nut 1.hn.13;§1t mach
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to hell. for a drink I5!
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than thailnaliam mum falls: a man
if he ecml. get somezme that kr:mm*. him Vw get the 'Ind£z;1nV amt.
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out or tho aquow. Bunch came back and joined the two of us; and
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in the s-.::nmur of 1922. Bunch, liur-xhzrrt and mgrsolf tmm took some
more dr1nks~_qut or the jug, and 1&_tt the at 4.110 some place and _
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the deal over with Burkhart 21 umbor of times, in 1:-.ot almost ovary
time I saw u!-klmrt tho deal was mentioned, and tho same was L' .10 as
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u dim road somvthing like a mile southeast h-on Three 11110 3a::j;on,
east of 5a1r'f:i;:", :md~ told ma where it was, :u".d-Burl-thzlrt and 1 awn; cu
tho:-o and filled a pint bottle and put it uzuéer :1 rec.-* in a dr; brmc.
nearby,-and .§h0rt_l;; -a.1'ter_ that ,I tcokanry Iloan out there and gave. ~ I . -jj .1, ' ' Y '.
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_ ' 92 m.{cant there and gave mg a drink pm of this pint bottle. "na-
next time 1 saw Roan it 'Pairi'a.:, ha gagaln asked me for §_dr1n_k,
I |, 14. gm-92-~.. H _.__..:*y ."1 V I _. :P_"{ Y .f'f~_'**""1"'5 {-A" uherewlu had taken a drink a ay or £wi$ ae-hr:-a. Thu nhxt time I - , 2;. 1 _
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of wh1akay~ _. __ _ Q a . _
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" I ilound plaptuya aciutlijo$;;Ibhn*D 1111ia;' ',s, where the rhggkgg wag?! _ ~V__ .. . _ _._ .. V 4 _
hid under a flat rock, and 1 00u1¢n't toll him just where it was.
It was my whiskey, but. was given to lien:-y dean as a pB.I"C of 1.1-.e
deal bytwhiqh I wag tp f'u92;'.n__1ah_-om: wh; skoy whanuv-azf harwanaed
and £0110-Hulag 3_;1i'1s up,:.mfary: I IQ; in Fa1r£a3.':_ad would
~ Ree Burldiaff, I wou1dv"taiic_n'.1t£ £1.25 Abba: éue mwgg }>r'a<mn§ *
é _'.'-he. third time I furnished Roan 5:111 s:ay lnépgrson,» - - : .
W8-s rxhuut the same place where he was killed. ' Qurly Johnsun
six or seven gallons hidden in this ravine, and had told ":8 had
about it. Roam and I want. out them, and iitmn lcft his car on
top of the-hill,-and 110 drove dawn under the hill in the car I
was driving, which was a £<ax-d cause, as it was before I boa,-_:'nt
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it, gomotimos in 501 Dm1th'B pasturo, sométirrea up the railroazl
track, and other ploooa. I suppose I furnished him whiskey in this
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way at least t!v_on_ty,_timeo_,._ 2,, _ _ 7 -: . ;_
D '-fhilo theso','§xvi§§go¬_i'atioi:a iroro going on,l'"'faouiait-1i::§:'';§f'o§'e * -
tho deat of lioon, I d tot l-ioInro§sk oool! haillh £5 Fairfs;
and he asked mo if I would give Uurly Johnson a gun. I said T.
would, and Burklaart not a 4.5 Colts autornatlc and brougjltlt and gave
ix. ya loo 1_n' .:;hah'to1ophozieJo_oo;b11 11:1 tho pool hall. _. x puf fzne 7
a:io_fstl§poei'.|ior For oth,_'§p'orgooh's vtfilifiinubfthe
II¥1'&0t'juat south of thorirst I§-a.tiona.l-_Ban1_:, I am: Ha;-ry Corbett, I
I think he came 1rom hohin'd_and92ovortoolc mo, and told on thkats if '
that was a bottle causing the bulge in my clothes, I Jud better get
rid of it or would canoe mo troublo. I told him it was a. gun
and that I 'Irau,goin5_to the ¬nl'&?O to pat. it in 11;; car, and ,1 did
put the gun in my oar anclkept it tho:-e until I gave it back to
Burlchart tho night Roan was killed After this I went to Ripley '
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to low at that farm 3'ur2:h:1rt said all right. that he wmzi-:1
we ma than max: damn The next clay **;.zr§aha,a-t 61-we bg; Irons hsmse
s. time er um. am!
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that Kay Bunch was
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the pcstuffiao and5 went wt in the yard and talkeé to him.
the Indian had ham ahasxgg savaral days, am!
than mu: making far hm. Lat!!! an I went
with svaly Irorna, I16 urimart aazxna out or
cm» W 5% ear $813 mmtud tn knew .11 I uauld be
down town mat night; I tum him I we-11:! be ar else: mxld he
at Irn11a - Bu:*1l:hru*t sails?! the lrans raaidamw after mguper,
and an X mzzall, Nasal lrana amwerud Qua telaphcne and callad
m~.; to rm» gahazzm iiarkixart asked we if I auzl came aw: right
swag". i said yes, and asked him where he was am? ha szmi at
the gm-ml hali, L-at far r-:8 L0 mst him in rm alley l'>§'§»R~L3§1 the
Rm: 3:111: and the lnsiuer yard. 1 {$1-ow down right many, mad
wmm I ruaenoé the allay, Bur-man. atugnjxari nut and askasi me if
Z Ezzui that gum. I said I dhi, and Jxwmzmt gut in the car amzl
told ans: ta ciriva tn Plain E§Ii i38t anti turn smith, wmsh I did, driv-
mg to the south and -at i-Sam at:-eat 'e:ize:'£: tin: Tapas filling". stauma
in mu heated, and wrna wast. Just aftar turning; west, bark-
nart said far ma ts lat him d1-Aw, that ha an-=16 draws faster, :md~
ha skinned aver mylap and drove. As we were leaving; town. Bari-<-
mlrt said that Bunch had just ctmel in from Henry Cm*nnti;'8 max!
that Qurlgg Jvhnsan had Jicmn nut in n01 ;rnith's pastura, and wantisci
Bu*k311:*t w r-at him a gun M awn as p'£3$*-3§.'::Er3, as Jainism}; m§:nw
hzivs a gun W1 Q1 him Bu:-3<§'1'::rt drove q1:§¢k1;92I to the $021 Iii ma
big hill in -Lu-1 Ami th 8- pmturu, and ml aw the ford car 0.1 ?lur1§
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and one =1.-1;; before the body at norm was found. .79 311 man
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Ia! killaé, Boy Bunch and mics Tucker drove out to Bill
Trent's pasture northeast of Fiirfax, t0g,8~t.|61" wit Bill
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at-irted a conversation which I knew was leading up to trio
killing oi Hoary Han, befora Tnckar and Bnvard, J. cannot now
recall his exact 1.{_;921H{;B., but 1 stepped away as 1 did not want
to hour such talk in the presence oi" these man-
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Guthrie n-5 it looked like it V-'45 a damn clinch alley were going
to arrest Bill Hula and maybe himself, for this Roan murder.
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mime had never been mentioned in connaction with the killing.
I said no, it mid not, and it won't be unluss you mention it.
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mo or ting; one, tint no was going to stand put, and tnat if
no didn't tell it that it would not be told. He said that
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than lay all the blmne on Bill Hale-L Burkliirt said he didn't0A
wont ma to ever -mntion his mum in connection with this killing-
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to got rid of bar to and this troublo with Eécllia, and that
it she was k'1l1od'th-at it wculd also add Tao h1a.astat.a. He
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away so he could pxjove his innocence. Whoa I rejected
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m.-.2-kod on it tor mo purchase of a hog. I think this ohoclr
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woo mking tho statement oroun Fairfax thot no know who
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