Bremer Kidnapping Part 180

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FBI Vault
Case
Barker Karpis Gang
Sub-case
Bremer Kidnapping
Pages
173
Part
180
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FOIPA COVER SHEET
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
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PRIVACY ACTS
SUBJECT: BARKER/KARPIS GANG
BREMER KIDNAPPING
FILE NUMBER: 7-576
SECTION : 151
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

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December 18, 1955
Director,
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Be: BREID
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter dated Deccnber 1.3,
PPck autonaobile, motor-Jnumber 2845179 to Eelenerguson ataE3I¥Ii&#39;ssz67**"p*_*""? ""
Please be advised that on December 1&#39;7, 1935 special
Agent R. O. Suran conferred with Assistant United States
Attorney B. P. Drymalski concerning this matter and Mr.
Drymslski stated that in his opinion it would not be necessary
to file a petition on behalf of Helen Ierguson in order to
return the said Buick automobile to her» However, Agent Suran
suggested to him that perhaps, although not necessary, it
would be better procedure to have such a petition tiled inas-
much as this Buick was in the possession ct this Bureau by
Court 9rdQreH55 instructing that e ropriate steps be taken to return
llr. Drymalski, after further consideration or the
matter, stated that he would tile a petition requesting that
the court return the said automobile to Helen Ferguson and
that the petition would be tiled some time during the present
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mun adrieed that ea Ileveaber 15, 1035, at 18:80 an a telephane sell
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Aahtabula eity directory and aeeertaine can the snnon um Shallera!
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Aehtabula, Ohio, telephone amber I170. the aity d1reatery~;i&#39;92nhat Iafleeta
that Edear S. Dnpeey, of l8Ol Banker Bill Real ia eager at tb Syelleee 
ea well ae e restaurant and beer parlor located at asuanu Street, amt-
Iule, Q10, and hie eifa, Inna, 1e President eitle ktaanla Hietaibetjiaf_c¢., leeateq in the ielfoi the_$92l1lon aeetaureet. if-,    g
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attorney, reeidee at 1801 Banker Bill Read, together with Ire. Iera Geek, &#39;
widen at H. 9. Cook, and liven! 8. hnpeey anl Irene Delpeey; telephone 80.
2518 la liated to Ira. lore cook at 1801 luker Hill lead.
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poetueeter, eere interviewed and ah-lead that H. B.  Bi! Rook Iae the
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lent at the eutakirta oi Pelneeville, Q10, about April 1&9, the elder _.
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liner threua tar attorney, Ir. 1&#39;. inn, at Adtabula, Ohio, in has
either tailed or refused to supply the association with her present ai-
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4804 Kain Street, Ashtabale, Ohio, seen:-ding to nu liller, is a first
engineer an teats epezating ea the Great Lakes out at Adtabala, 0., and
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aaaaavor to aaaartain tna raaant_w§;_au:aat9ut at Paulina Dinar it &#39;  anal»: tho  ant uni at
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baa not ban nah aarraaponaaaaa tatvaan Ian-an ana Ira. Iatkina. Ira. -
latkina la tha nothar of Paulina Iiillar.
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that lb-a. Iatkina raaaivad a iattar about ana aaak ago ta-an aaua plaaa
r an tiaiitornia, yrotatly 5an Iranciaaa or Lea lngalaa, which aara tha ra-
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raaalvad quita a tit ai loaay, and Lpnt Hlrah aaaartaiuad that Paulina
and bar trotbar apant about $180,000 in a vary abort pariod at tho,
owning about tiva or Ii: aara and "hitting all tin high apota". Ira.
liner latar narriad Dr. htkina, who ia an advartialng nantiat. ha
toy want to work. Paulina ia anit navar to lava taan aagagad in any
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I. N. Owen, Rural Mail Carrier, Route 1, Electra, Texas, was
interviewed by Agent at the Post Office in Electra, Tens on December 4, 1935.,Owen advised that he is now out of contact with @__wa;_d_L4&#39;lcNeel and rife,
lbfrtl, who, with their family consisting of tour children, fonnerly lived on5/{am on Owen: mil route; namely, kaute 1, Electra, Texas. Olen infomed that the llcNee1e moved from the tam and consequently his route £11.31!-1-Y, 1955»
and he believes the l£cNee1s new live on Route 2 out of Iowa Park, Ions, on a, -cappock Oil&#39;Lo&se. He stated the llclieels, therefore, since July, 1935, must1 1-",1" their mi the new address Aneikntioned above.  F  , ."931* -B111
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of Iowa Park, Tens, is one B0711. but whose first mme is unknown to him. &#39;
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; rier who would understand the situation and cooperate as he, Owen, had . "
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years old, had been in ill health, and is inclined to be rather "cranky." -
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_ and he advised that 0.1. Ihisnand, County Higiray Officer, residing in"
-- Electra, bras, was not a talkative person, and might be able to assist
in determining definitely whether Harry Campbell is living with the lic-
Heels or associated with thm in their new vicinity ormaking contacts of
any kind through them. Owen informed that he "believed Special Agent E. I.
Dowd had either consulted Ihisnand on a prior occasion or had referred to
Ihisnand as a dependable person. Owen stated that H. G. Ihisnand, a
younger brother of O. E. Ihisnand, was at present constable in Electra, but
is inclined to be talkative.  "  , _ _ _
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ised to advise the Dallas Qffice at any time that he receives any infome-
tion that night be hslpfulvin locating mrry Oampbell. , &#39; _ p    ;_._;  p
Bfforts to contact 0. I. Ihismnd were unsuccessful for the _
-»l:-~-~~-~reaeon that he was out of the city, at Wichita Falls, Texas, at the time
of Agent&#39;s transactions in Electra. - _
The investigation reported above was made on the second day of
Agent&#39;s present road trip, and Agent rdtumed 15° 10175 Park. T919-5» 1&#39;1&#39;°111
Amarillo, Texas, on December 14, l955, and the investigation requested in
reference letter to be made at Electra, Texas, was mde at Iowa Park.
!::.:; however, efforts to contact 0. E. Whisnend at Electra. T9135. "°1&#39;°
again unsuccessful on December 14, 1935.
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Agent inquired of Er." Burrows as to whether or not Boyd, the
mail carrier on Route 2, Iowa Park, was the type of person and type of
. mail carrier who would cooperate in this matter. Burrows advised that 
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_ I. P. Boyd, Rural Hail Carrier, Route 2 out of Iowa Park, Texas,
advised Agent that he delivered lcNeel&#39;s mil to their box. He informed p
Agent that McNeel&#39;s mil box is located at n point where the Iowa Park and
Holliday road intersects the Whichita Falls and K. M. A. road. He stated
he had never met any of the McNeels, except Mrs. McNeel; that the McNeels
do not receive "a great deal" of mail and seldan send out any mail. Mr.
y Boyd was of theopinion, however, -that the lloeels night get some of their
mil, as well as send mil, through the Post Office at Holliday, Texas, which
is located only a few miles from Iowa Park. Boyd further advised that V .
I the llclieels received quite e few" Inall pecheges. Mr. Boyd suggested that
the llceels might putrnil in other boxes located near their own in order
that all mil sent out by them would not be observed, and he promised to be
very alert in watching all mail which he extracts from the boxes near that
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Agent upon examination of the money order records as follows:
That on 9-ll-55, Money Order No. 71422, in the amount of $1.45
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. &#39;_ Sergeant R. H. Routh, Texas Highway Patrol, a resident of Pempa,
Texas, was interviewed by Agent at the office of Sheriff Earl Tally, Pampa,
Texas, on December 10, 1935. Sergeant Bouth advised that until very re-
cently he has carefully watched the h of Mildred Campbell, wife of Harry
Campbell, and the home of Mrs. Ralph E Gibson, mother of Mildred Campbell,with special reference to any strangeoztomobiles or any automobile that
might have brought Harry Campbell to Mildred or Mrs. Gibson, but that he
had made no observation indicating that Harry Campbell is with them at the
present time or has "slipped" in to Pampa to see them. He did not know if
Harry Campbell has been in communication with them at any time. Sergeant
Routh explained that because of the nature of his work he is very familiar
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to which he can refer when in doubt as to any license. He intonaed
with Special Agent E. J. Dowd and interviewed Hrs. Gibson on the p1-e- _
text that there was a detect in the registration oi hercar, and through
her learned or Mildred Campbell&#39;s jneation in Pampa. Routh is of the
opinion that Harry and Mildred must be definitely out of contact with
each other, basing his opinion on the following reasoning: That when
he and Agent nowd learned from her that Harry had e sister who was a
school teacher at Tulsa, Oklahoma, who gave Harry money occasionally when
he needed it, that she, Mildred, and daughter had mde some trips to Tulsa
to see Harry&#39;s folks, therefore, llildred and Harry must have been definite-
ly separated and out or contact with each other or she, Mildred, would .
not have given that much intonation. &#39; Further, that ii Mildred and Harry
had not been out of contact at the time that information was given by her,
then upon further consideration she probably notified Harry or what she
had said, and that after that they would not be apt to ccnnmnicate with
each other. However, Sergeant Bouth evidenced renewed interest in this
case and promised that he would gladly make immediate and continued er-
fort to verify denitely whether or not Harry is now or in the future
making any contact with Mildred or Mrs. Gibson.
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E. C. Rupp, Clerk, Pampa Post Office, a former resident or
Caspar, Wyoming, where he knew llildred Campbell and her mother, and who
had previously promised his assistance, was interviewed in the Post Ot- -
tics on December ll, 1955. "Ir. Bupp advised that he had not seen-Mildred
Campbell in Pampa for at least a month; that he was under the impression V
that some person had told him Mildred Campbell had remarried and was now 
living on a ranch, the location or which he could not state; that he was
quite sure the intonation as to llildred&#39;e remarriage and removal to a G
ranch had come to him from" Charles Yantes who lives in the cottage next
door to the one occupied by Mrs. Gibson in Pampa. Agent inquired oi Mr.
Rupp whether Charles Yantes was the type of person who could be established
as a confidential infonmnt, and Mr. Rupp informed-that it would be inad-
visable to consult Yantes for the reason that Yantes "would talk" and is
referred to around Pempa as "Huey Long. mpp stated that lire. Gibon _
has given up Box 611 in the Post 011&#39;ice.e:nd now has Box 16&#39;/3. ihrvvsh which
box he was quite certain both uh-e. Gibson and Mildred Gennbell r=<==1"
il It was Rupp&#39;s opinion that llr. R. I. Gibson, husband of lire. Gib- § e .&#39;:. . Q son, is a respectable person and does not live with lire &#39;gi;b:>;1-la mg?-
further advised that about six weeks A80 1118 7911118 "111livers Liberty Magazines, was in Mrs. Gibson&#39;s neighborhood looking tor afonner customer, and saw and talked with Hrs. Gibson. Rupp could no"hrem however, definitely whether or not Harry Gampbell has been I1 withit  Harry iscommunication with Mildred or Mrs. Gibson, or whether or not 1 tthem at the resent time.   " M E3 "P°r:°1!t:rf:"°t_;;».-"as--¬=»:&#39;t**» .1 . gull,  ed back into the Pos me vim 11 entvs P1-Q Q watch thei &#39;.>.¢:1I A ~&#39;?r>"i;   F1   T *=&ieu1er refersC - - vi    H "*7--e°l°s°h  * &#39; dancec W    " ri-eh cieveiaea, omei=e1&#39; Y - - °°°"  ,_ &#39; .u:.» - eI106

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David E. Cecil, Postmaster, Pampa, Texas, was interviewed in
his private office at the Post Office. Hr. Cecil advised that he sees
Mildred Campbell quite often, and that it has not been many days since
he had last seen her in Pampa. He informed that only a few days before
Agent&#39;s visit he had seen Mildred in company with a young man who did
not appear to be more than 17 years old, in a grocery store buyinggroceries. Mr. Cecil stated that Mildred looked "ragged and worn dowt",
and with the young man was riding in an "old wreck Ford Coupe." He is of
the opinion, therefore, that she does not have much money; that Harry has
definitely "ditched her"; and that she and Harry are not in communica-
tion. Er. Cecil had not seen hrs. Gibson for a long thne. He recalled
the following incident: Two years ago he was opening A Christmas
package in his office that had arrived fnr.Nrs. Gibson, and while he was
in the process of unwrapping the package in search of information that
would assist in this case, Hrs. Gibson called at the Post Office for the
package; however, he was able to get the package to her with little de-
lay, with an explanation that it ma been misplaced in another box. No
infcnnstion was obtained, and this incident will, of course, be treated
with utmost confidence, and is cited only to evidence that hr. Cecil will
give effective cooperation in this case.
Agent made specific inquiry of Kr. Cecil as to Eula Bee Camp-
bell, daughter of Mildred Campbell, to ascertain whether Eula.was attend-
ing school in Pampa for the purpose of deterudng whether Mildred had moved
from Pampa, and also made known to Mr. Cecil a desire to verify definite-
ly whether or not Kildred had remarried. Mr. Cecil then suggested that if
Eula were attending school in Pampa it be the
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ascertained that Eula attending the Baker Schoo
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ina R. R. Msckie, which may explain his true identity and relationship to
Mildred Campbell, and what pert, if any, he is playing in this case. De-
termine if Mr. Cecil or Mr. E. C. Rupp have secured any leads in this case
concerning the Mackies and Gibsonse
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went to 8t.Panl in the late tall et 1952 until he lett Bttranl in January
1954. He state that in the late tall ei lb! while he, Ired and Q5 _OBarker and nteasu-nor resided in BtePanl, ma Barker tonTiI that in  &#39;
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action Harry Sawyer would take inerder to eecnre the release ct Boyle
should he be arrested. Re did not mention the nae oi Detectives In
Brown or Bill Ornnhley, and Doyle etated that he could not recall any
members oi the gng mentioning Ormnbley or Brown, in connection with the
possible "i&#39;i::ing" ct eases or tipofte to nunbere ct the gag concerning
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only two ocoeeions; that on one occasion mile he and Prod Barker were v
parked in a ear drinking beer at the parking let i_ediately in ne rear
oi Bewyer&#39;eplaee on Iabaslntreet, e ear drove up which contained a  ,
tell heavy set nan who wee driving, and who was in civilian clothes. Iith
this nan wee a Police Otticere Ired Barker left the ear and went over v
and engaged the two an in conversation. Upon hie return Boyle stated V
that he is certain that !&#39;red Barker mentioned that the tall nn wae naned
Brown. Doyle stated that he never net efficer Bill Grunbley and does not
know oi any possible connection he nay have had with members ct the gang.
In connection with tin letter from the che ettioc to the 
Bureau dated Iovcber ll, 1935, reporting interview had with Doyle in which
Doyle wentioned that a In in the State Apprehension Bureau at the State A
Capital, 8tePan1, wee need to tip ofi the gang, Doyle stated that it was 7
his understanding that this Inn wee one and the nee as Brown; that he
telt certain that Brown at that time held the position in charge oi the e --
Btate Bureau oi criminal Identification, and had an ottioe in the 8tete
Capital Building in 8tePanl; that it was merely heareay with hinbnt that
he understood that it was through Brown that the nob was tipped oti;
that apparently the into:-mat ion concerning Police raids was given to Harry
Sawyer, inasmuch as it wee the custom or the gang to inenodiately install a
telephone in their apartments, and this telephone was to be need for no
other purpose than the reception or telephone calls tron rry Sawyer
concerning tipctte of Police raids. Doyle stated however, that he ccnld
not recall any occasion when a telephone call ct each nature wee received.
In connect ion with the above letter in which mention is mde oi the tact
that Doyle stated that it was hie opinion that some or the "higher ape" .
ilpliehted in the Brewer kidnaping had not been apprehended, Doyle statedthat thk.-:&#39; ete&#39;tQen? was 13 answer to a question put -to hil by the inter-_
viewing Agent, who asked him whether he thought that all oi the "higher &#39; "
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the Bt.Paul Police Department wee"eroohd" it wee hie idea, not baeed ea
any intonation or knowledge, that undoubtedly eone nenbere of the It.
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lleferenoe in here aade to a eeparate report eubmitted by thie
Agent, eetting out the activitiee of Doyle prior to and during the Brener &#39;
kidnaping. It will be noted here that Doyle etated that in the Spring of
1935 he beeane involved in eeveral argmente with aembere ef the gang;
that he wee firmly of the opinion, baeed on faete, that they intended to
beep him eff and ea e reenlt he wae not in eloee eoataot with then and
did not know that they intended to kidnap Brener, and inaamuch an he left
8t.Paul on January 15, 1934 he doee not have any information concerning _
activitiee of the gang during the tine that Breaer wee being held.  _
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which ime the pug ie reported to have been edvieed of e Police raid byGladye%wyer, Doyle etated that approzhetely two or three daye before
the ab e date, be, Ired Barker and Alvin Iarpie had rented en apartment
at 1890 Grand Avenue. Yolney Davie likewiae wae reeiding in another
apartment in the one building; telephonee bad not yet been inetalled in .
the aparhente. At about 8 P.l. on the above date Ieee Doyle returned to
hie aparteant alone. A equad ear eontaiining three policmen wee parked
in front of the apartment building. Ae Doyle drove up to the aide of the
building Gladye Sawyer wae etanding beeide an automobile, and a Ian wee
eitting in the automobile, but ae it wae dark h id not knowiio it wae,although he stated poeeibly it nay have been Pa%iley. Gladye Sawyer
aaked Ieee Doyle iaere the reet of the gag waa d he informed her be
did not know, whereupon ehe advieed hi! that the Police were ping to raid
the apertaentae Doyle etated that he thereupon went downtown and attempted
to locate the reet of the gng but failed to do en. Upon hie return Gladye
told him that Fred Barker, Alvin larpie and Volney Davie had been there but
had gone and that they would meet him at Bar:-y&#39;e saloon. Contrary to
Gladye.&wyer&#39;e wiehee Jeee Doyle entered the rear of the building and
poked two II-l1l0&lOIe On leaving the apartment building, being under the
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ear without being stopped by the offioere. He thereupon proceeded to
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and Doyle stated he did not see 8awyer§ Ired Barker, Inrpis and hoyle -
thereupon proceeded to Ghicagollinoist He stated that he left a ward-
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there; that he did not know what happened to these articles subsequently
and has no infomation illioating that these things were returned; that
he never did reoover hie nrdrohe trunk and eontentse is recalls however
that some months subsequently when he was again in Btera he went to
Harry 8awyer&#39;s place and saw sons bed linen that had been in the apartment
and he was asked by one or the young tsllou she worked tor Sawyer and "
whose identity he does not know, whether they belonged to him Be stated
that he denied to this young mn that they Iere his property. Doyle stated
he has no information indicating that the clothes that were left in the
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which he related in nuch the sane words as contained in the written state-
ment obtained from his upon his arrest in Kansas City in Iebrusry, B35. ,.
He was likewise questioned as to statment nade by hi; that he saw Alvin ,
Ia:-pie in the vicinity of the County Jail at Ieirbury, Iebraska on lune 18
1935. Doyle stated that he was brought to Iairbury on about Iune llth,
remained overnight in the county jail, and was then transferred. to the
Iebraska State Penitentiary, and on June 17, 3.955 was returned to lair-
bury tor a preliminary hearing, at whieh tins several witnesses taeed him.
Be stated that he was planed behind a barred window of the courthouse and
while awaiting arrival at the witnesses he saw a dark blue 1955 tour door
Dodge sedan parked innsdiately outside, his attention originally having
been attracted by the taot that a young nan was sitting inside looking up
from the driver&#39;s seat, at the eourthouse. Doyle stated that he recognised
the man as Alvin Iarpise after approxilately ten minutes the young In
got out of the oar md walked aeross the street. Doyle stated he is ab-
solutely sertain at his identication; that Iarpie as dressed in a gray
snap brim hat and light gray suit; that he went out or sight in erossing
the atreet end returned about ten minutes later and qa still sitting in
the oar looking up at the courthouse when Doyle was sailed out or the room
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Ierpis&#39; presence there other than that Karpie and other members of the
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on hie part oi eontaete of Iarpie and danpbelle - lle thereupon wteted F
that m the an of use mu. he waatnvelih; through lieeonri and * " "
Oklahowa he ehtained inromat ion indicating that neabera or the gang were
attempting to loeate hin. Doyle etated that he felt oertaia they would
locate him tor only one pwrpoee and that wae to kill hie. Ga one occa-
eion at the Sportnane Oluh on Bouthweetern Boulevard in Ianeae dity a
bartender, when he learned that Doyle&#39;e none wae Ieee, etated that ho
nan had been in the aaloen a few daye before inquiring tor lilo "Doyle
felt certain that theee non were nenbere at the gang, and he decided to
hunt for thQ rather than have them h lilo Be went to South Betray-vi e, Oklahoma where he contacted LJEIIIOOQ at that tine mployed by%1ilq "- Sherwood told hi! that jfred Barker and hrry Campbell had -. 1»:-
pae d thread: oa their way trm Ghieap to Florida; that they intended &#39;
to vieit relativee oi rry empbell at inlea, Oklahoma; that theyia- Y
quired tor Doyle and deei d to know hie lddflle Sherwood likewise toldhim ma mn nalod Bilionald who! he described identically with
Iill eaver, wae likew ee with Fred Barker; that he  Sherwood! had re-
oeived e letter which he had in hie poeoeeeion, tron Ioaver, inviting hin
to go fiahing at hie nlaoe looated about tive or aix honra tron South .
cur:-yvalle. Doyle etated that Bherwood likewise etated that a alender
young an who leobed lime an hgliehnaa,_1nd aleo etopped at hie plaee a
making inquiry about Boyle. Doyle tltated he felt eertaihfron um dee- x
eription that the nan referred to wee Alvin Iarpiee He atated that he had
no intonation indicating that Volley Davie was acquainted with er vieited
Al She:-wood&#39;e place. However it ie to he noted that Iillian weaver wae
apprehended upon intonation originally obtained by Yolaey Davie trm Al
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Doyle wae also questioned ae to the etatment he Md nde in
a previoue interview to the etteot that Iarpie had contaote true ooaat to
cod. He advieed that he had no inreraetion concerning any poeeible N
aontacte of In-pie, and Ind no idea where Iarpie or dalpbell night be lo-
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called that during the Fall ot 1932 while in Sawyer: saloon he aaw an
elderly mm conversing with Sawyer; that thie was the only time he ever
eaw thie ma but that later in convereing with Volney Davie who wasepeaking oi&#39;$Old Chuck", he recalled the man he had seen in Sawyer&#39;e
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-nhieh was perpetrated on august SO.,1_98§ Iitsgerald has badly wounded; -that oak; was shorter than the ether; that Iitsgerald was tahsn to
Iillie rrison&#39;s hone on Ialthan Street at Oelnet City, Illinois and
later received treatment in a hospital which he believed was located in
Denver, Colorado; Doyle however was not certain of the location or this
h0lP11il1e He stated that he had heard that Iitagerald was considered an
outstanding bank etiohip ma, especially good in "casing" banks; that 
Iitsgerald had been a elese friend oi hrrison, and that..both E1-risen and
Fitzgerald were heavy drinkers. » Doyle recalled that at the tine he saw :-
Iitagerald in Sawyer: saloon, someone was kidding hin about being a big
olner or real estate. peyle however did not hos the -location at any real
estate that Iitsgerald nigat one Doyle was questioned as to any interna-
tion he night have obtained tron Yelaey Davis tter the hidnaping oi Bruer
Karpie had talked about going to Canada where he had relatives. Doyle
likewise stated that he did not believe there was a close connection
between members of the Karpis-Barknr gang and the Syndicate in Chicago;
that the Syndicate telt that nusbers oithie gang were "too hot to deal
vithe Ks stated however that during the trial oi Arthur R. Barker and
others in St.Paul in the Spring of 1955, he overheard a trustee Ihose
name and identity he did not reca1l,nntion the___iact thatrry Oenpbell
eas in 8t.?aul trying to gets lasyer tor &#39;_Iy-none Burdett; Doyle had no
further intonation regardingthis atateznente He was questioned concerning
the possible contacts oi thenob in the vicinity of Cleveland and Ioledo,
Ohio and other parts or the country, with negative results.
IDKL IURRLY was interviewed at the Missouri State Penitentiary,
Jefferson City, Missouri on December l6, 1&#39;! and 18, 1935, as is noted in
separate report submitted by this Agent and which report contains informa-ogon e1 possible value in the prosecution of Sawyer and Ieaver and Iyrtle
ton, ldna Hurray reiterated her statnent that ehe believed there was a
-close connection between Otticers In Brown and Bill Crumble! and numbers
ct the halter-wiarpis sang. She stated that she telt certain in her eon
  that it was through Brown that hwyer was tipped ett concerning raids
tojbe conducted by the 8t.Psnl Police Department -at apartments where the <
nob resided. She stated that she had on various occasions seen Brown in
Harry Sawyer&#39;s saloon speaking with wyer and other members of the gang. She
could not recall however, seeing Brown in the company of Sawyer or any oi
the other members of the gang shortly prior to the Bremer kidnaping, nor
could she recall having seen Brown visiting any oi the apartments where
the gang resided. In general Edna llurray stated that it was her idea that
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with Sawyer who would in tare notify nenbere of the gangao that they nigt
move before the raid took place. Idm Iurrayetated that djur the tilethatarauer wee being held, while ehe Iae reeidiag with Ila tt and .
Paul non in the vieinity of lord Street aad U&#39;nivereit1_.92vea9292e, Chicago,
Illinoie, Tolney Davie vieited the apartment ea one oooaeioa and advised
that ton Bron gee hoping the gang intoned of the aotivitiee of the -
Bureau; that Brown had aeoertained that Doe Barker and other nenbere of the
gang were euepeeted of the kidnaping, and brought yietnree of Doe Darker
and eeverel other aembere or the gang to Rrry Sawyer, and advieed hie: of
the Governnent&#39;a euepioione. She alao etated that ahe nnderetood trcn
general convereatione ehe had with Davie at that time and thereafter that &#39;
Brown wee to get a &#39;ont" out of the Brewer ranecn aoaeve She recalled that
in the latter part of Ioveznber, 1934 when aha and Davie vieited lller&#39;e A
saloon in Ben.senville,Il1iaoie on the oooaeion ea _hvie obtained fro!
Iamer the $500.00 he had given Iamer tor we jarohaee of a naohine gen,
Iamer ltated to Davie that_he Ind $lQ|00O toning to hil; that poo Barker
had etated that they had out Brown eat oi hie ehare of the Brenner ranaon 7
loner. -at that tile Davie atated to Farmer that if that were true he aonld
not receive $10,000 but only hie ehare ehieh would he Q1000. On an ooee&#39;-
eion ahortly before this ahile at Kahn&#39;e Barbeone etan located on Iorth
lton drove up, and ahile ahe was engaged in oonvereation with Doc Barker
and Bueeell ibeon, Doe hrker Itated with reference to Detective Brown:
"I gueee you eaw where that dirty ---~ killed Yan later. ldna Iurny
etated that ahe uaderetoed fran Davie that Drown Iae deprived ef hie ehare
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on one oooae ion that in the Spring of 195&#39;-5 ahortly after the robbery or the
Third Iorthieetern Bank of linaeapolia, linneeota on Deeanher 3.6, l952,for
Ihioh robbery Lawrence live]. ie eerving a life eentenoe in the linneeota
State Penitentiary, a an named Rankine Iae to he put on trial for thie
robbery. Davie informed her that it eae intended that Duvol nae to be
brought to llinneapolie ae a vitneeee Detective Brown notified Karpie and
aoue of the other beye in Chicago of the route that Duvol nae to take
when he wae to be brought £1-an the llinneaota State Penitentiary to Minne-
apolie, in order tint the lob night lake arranganente to releaee Davole
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"the Inch, &#39;stated that shlle they were residing in laywccd,Illinois the
gang occasionally visited the lloulin Rouge niQt slab, which sas operated
by Ieey O&#39;Brien. Edna stated that this night club was located ca Iirst
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the location of which she described as fellows: Iron her residence at
that time on Second Avenue in hysood,thhy drove south to Roosevelt Road,
turned left and went to the first thron;h_theroo5h1&#39;are, than turned riQt
sad at the first intersection there sis located on the south east ecrner
a placed called Buck&#39;s» Ihis place was operated by a Ian naaed lush sho
was acquainted with Isrpis, Oampbell and other mers of the sang and as
apparently very friendly with then. &#39; 
Ihen questioned further astc the possible contacts of Iarpis
and Campbell, Edna lurray stated that she recalled that in the latter part
of Icvemher, 1938 shortly before she and the rest of the nob left Reno,
Ieveda for 8tePaul, Alvin Iarpis and Dolores Delaney and another neaber of
the gang, whose identity shesonld notrscell, sede a trip to I-as Yeas. -
Qn their return Karpis mentioned visiting anight club it Les Togas which
was operated by a friend of hise She was net certain whether this I-as Vegas
referred to by Ia;-pie was in Ievads or ew Iexice. She further stated that
shortly after his release from the Dklahcln State Penitentiary in 1958
Davis stayed for a while is Dos Angolan Ihere he had several friends. She
stated that R1-ry Campbell likewise has acquaintances in hoe Angeles, and
indicated that Davis undoubtedly would knot of these acquaintances of
Cempbelle She further stated that shortly before she and Davis left Band-
nty,Ohie in the sumer of 1954 she and mvis ndea trip to Buffalo, lie!»
Before leaving Iarpis asked Davis whether hewanted the sane and address of
s friend of Is:-pie in llew Yon: om. hvis advised liarpis at that time "V 3:
&#39;t_hat he did not intend visitinghee Yorke . u  ,;_ _
. 7 - &#39;  &#39; V&#39; " Idna In:-ray stated that she had no "infometicn concerning other
acquaintances of Iarpis and Campbell and had no idea eher they sigat pre-wntly be located; that she was not acquainted with Sh tton and ArthurBertrand er any other acquaintances or hangouts of the ng, in the vic-inity cf Cleveland or 1cledo,0hic, nor had she ever heard oiany wcnancalled noun =1: Toledo. 8he recalled having heard the name Nwfcousme.
She was questioned at length concerning possible knowledge on her part rc-
garding the Hem kidnaping, concerning which she stated she had ncinfcr-
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1}}, Lrondale, Okla. , interviewed regarding visit with her e ster, Iy- V
. .. re-interviewed at Tulsa and vicinity, but no additional information
. in Tulsa continuously by three Agents, but no information of any ap-
rCar-penter, sister of Irs. L. Biglebb, previously mentioned as a confidential inform-REORTMADEAT_  _ V _ DATEWHENVMADE _;EHRll3_|&#39;>&#39;I:E:I K, _J,t_s|=_0R1&#39;_Ml_mEeY _  _,_....,..,.:_ _ -
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 12-1a-as 11/2s-12/14/s "&#39;1&#39; if Paul Hansen &#39; }
"&#39;-&#39;ALVIN6lLéBPI3 with aliases - rmxrm, 1.0.1218 °"***=&#39;="&#39;=- "-. "., .> -< . , ,
92 mnaxocna-Bait, with aliases, 1.0. 1256; _ Kidnqping;-._Harboring of Fugitives;nn. Josan P9 Mom tn aliases, 1.0. 1-12:2; Obstruction of Justice; Iational
sYuoPs|s or-&#39; FACTS: Additional confidential informants developed at Tulsa, O ., but
no additional information of value obtained. lrs. R. ileon,
nona. Confidential informant at South Coffeyville, Okla. re-inter-
- viewed, but no-I further information obtained. lumerous informants
- of value obtained. Surveillance being maintained at Campbell hone
parent value has been obtained to date. Iarents of Campbell and
Laura Campbell, Harry&#39;s sister, re-interviewed. 1~_  
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Letter from SAC E. . Connellcy to Cleveland Office, A
&#39; A dated ll-19-35; Personal and confidential letter from
SAC Connelley dated at Chicago, Ill., ll-26-65; Letter
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s  Chicago, December"1.5,&#39;lS5.:,:.;_~ ---o  _ ~1
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Traffic Superintendent, and Robert urns, Division Traf-
fic Superintendent of the Tele hone Company at Tulsa, Oklahoma, Hrs. Cordon ,_ Dicia!
ant in this case at Tulsa, Okl oma, was confidentially interviewed &#39; the writer at
the telephone offi in Tulsa. Irs. Carpenter is the wife of Gord_9_ _arpe_nter, who is a brother of Toaiirpenter, previously mentioned by this Agent oumerous occa-
sions as being a fo r associate of Harry Campbell and who is now in jail at either
Sedan or Independence, Kansas, where he is being tried on some thefts and burglaries
that he committed with Campbell. Irs. Carpenter and her husband live in Apartment805, 6 East llth Sreet, in Tulsa, and they can be reached over telephone 2-0712,
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which is in the hall near their apartment. Ire. Carpenter clainied that she
has seen Harry Campbell only once, which was on abouthgpril 2 ,!,,,],§5,.,1hen.Ca_1;p~,,..
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"she end her sister, Ira. L. B, Iobb, and &#39;Ion&#39;~_0arpenbor,~f?Ioro&#39; arrested  . .
police, in Tulsa, "the details 0§.IhI!.9ho81O cutout -in as rope;-:,_.;;,~tu1sd*lgent
dated at Oklahom City December 6, $4;-_~;¢"é8he  gt first very hpaitant t p out ,snytl-dng*she said and"I.as¢extremely  anzgrightoned. Ihe liter, hgever,
talked Ireelyaand paid that she h_adfnot seen   dofinitefof lar-
ry Campbell since he left Tulsa sometime in 1955. She stated that she is very
friendly with Laura Campbell and that dhe has visited her on numerous occasions,
usually at her work, however, and has only seq: the elder campbells on one or two
occasions. She is of the opinion that Laura knows something sgbout the whereabouts
of her brother, Harry, though she does not believe that Laura would tell ~s soul
in the world as she appears to be extremelygcarefnliaout anything she says about
her brother. She said that she had no idea where Kerry enpbell is at the pre-_-
sent tineand would not know anything about how to get;in touch with en1n.&#39;.*&#39;sne
manifbsted a wil1.Lngnos&#39;s to cboporste by advising the in-1te1- of any information
she receives regarding campbe_1.110r»h1s associat_es,&#39;bnt-"she stated positively.-that
she would not go out and"tryTto get any information regarding hiI,&#39;os "she does not
rant to see his again and does not sent to be associated withpanyone rho has &#39;
nay connection ,with him. - ihe stated that she is aware or thefact that "she barely
missed being sent to prison for harboring Campbell and Iright, and is so thankful
for the fact that she did not get into any serious trouble over this that shs
does not want to be associated with them or their associates again. Ix-s.
Garpenter is a J-Qng di-of-Home toll checker at the telephone Gonpany and works 1
different shifts each week. She said that she did not id herhusband knowing &#39;
that she had been interviewed and in fact would tell hi: about this interviel
and advised the writer the ii he wishes to contact _ &#39;1-&#39;1"!-I-.1e_1" thatjjgt  be -.allright to seé her at ne§pa.92-rs;-;»n1= at&#39;§.|5y-etime. mic it.is felt. that the --
intentions of this girl may  she states, it is not felt that eh! would _ -&#39;
likely comtmioto any info:-nation of-any c0nsQq1ience she hears of agp-
bell, especially due to the fact that she would be too frightened to do it.
She stated positively that if she thought Campbell was at the hone of his parents
or any other place she would not go around there, regardless of the amount of
money that would be offered her. She and her husband, Gordon, tisited Tom Cer-
penter when he was in the County Jail at Sedan, Kansas on two or three occasions
and Harry Campbell&#39;s name was mentioned several tines in their conversation
with him and she is definitely of the opinion that Ton Carpenter has no infor-
mation regarding Campbell&#39;s present activities and does not bolieye he has seen VJanpbell siince Carpenter-and she wo£o§._I_;1&#39;osted  LLQQS,  » _A  , +  5 i _§*.»~ : ~ .--I- ~ ls  -gr. " "!&#39;*» 1-A  ;.-"*» . » -
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Carpenter, at first, Ins Itightoned and reluctant--to -talk freely, "though later &#39;
admitted to the writer that he had made some money" with Harry Campbell, and
indicated that he had been on probably tio or three different J obs with him
though he did not wish to enumerate or explain these particular jobs. The
admission Carpenter made of being implicated with Campbell and others on some
jobs indicated that he was being frank and honest with the writer, especially
in view of the fact that his brother, Tom, is now being prosecuted in Kansas
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Carpenter, of course, being made upon the promise of the writer that said infor-
mtion would not be divulged to sny State officers. Gordon confirmed Ihst his
rife said regarding their visits with his brother, Ton, by stshi fhstilt felt
positive that Ton Carpenter had no idea where Campbell is at the presaittlm and
has had no connections with his since Carpenter&#39;s arrest by tbs Tulsa
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automobile in his yard, as his mother would then suspect that this lgent was a -.oer salesman. lilt stated that he had neceivnd noainfanon. whatever,
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,_;eause he had been werkzlngfor -ted Tho:-nton,--who, 3_0_pQ1f&t1ngor ¢Qgg1_ng_ fgggy°§§Z$  a§htI:.1uosr1;b"n.::}i: &#39;§.&#39;¥=°m."° "ihvlijjgl-{uses lite. .1 - . "°°*=&#39; "*1! - .   . 1"..._ 5.5,  I I-£32.18 are-vclls.hy the tact that Io9¬,$i_,§0ldnthe writer-of  .pick4np»-. " which as-,pan¢.Y
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Kansas and submitted to arrest for the theft of some guns that were stolen at Zola
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is trying to get&#39;"to be some sort of aipertner withH.n,&#39;--though he no woney to .
invest. If his plans work out as he wishes them to, he will he working at this
night club all the time and can be contacted either there or at his hone near Iann,
where he nay be on some week ends. Lott would not admit any association -with
Campbell or any of his associates and said that he did not believe that he would
recognize Campbell or Karpis if they were to come to hiw.~ However, he seemed to
be interested in. continuing to cooperate with this Agent and asked again the amount
_. of money the Bureau would pay his for the confidential information thatwguld resultin apprehending these fugitives. He"E;that ev"e£"$lOO0.003uld ~be more ilmey,than;-he naajgergseen-udns long as _ &#39; wuzif-1?.  doe _. is <=waht=Iu*@-y
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who got-sta:&#39;bed&#39;with:the business heis trying*to"getinto, and he refused it, stat-
ing that he had a little money at the present time and did not need it and is per-
fectly willing to work on a 0.0.17. basis. At the expiration of the interview, the
writer again attempted to give him some money by making it under the guise of a
Christmas present, for the confidence and good will that the writer was enjoying,
and this was done to build up more fully a confidence, and good will with Lett, to
make him more secure as a confidential informant, but he again refused and told
the writer to give that money to hiswife for Christmas, again stating that if he
needed the money he would take it, but he did not need it and would not ask fornight between
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V 1-Bur-u d§t&#39;°5. JQ?92m 1".» 1]-$5;   EB _ !;:ilson, _&#39; Qtondale, __ 7 ,.2»!-_315t91&#39; if   - terms niterviewea  ti.ne.&#39;ndIree1y_&#39;§Il0n8bd]__¥=1&#39; "1§i¥.,"&#39;1*11 _  .=    relatedabout the things she and Iynona talked e__ tare -alnostexnetly the sane as those
set out  the above gentioned letter as overheard by lgent Inzzy. ue did not,
however, say that she had any information about Harry Campbell hating been at his
home at any time since he left Tulsa with Iynone in 155. __8&#39;he Ias questioned eon-
cerning this and as to her ideas as to whether Campbell nade some contact with his
folks ind she said that she did not knowyand did not "believe that he would for tear
that he Iould be caught in doing so,  was  asked if-she did not thinkcalled toseeégie mm  he an by _th&#39;e"H.1dred zpmmem 
at iurley, Oklahoma in" April .155X YA C mt p"have?&#39;>being umato Hone, but .shehed.ee;ot  B , C so &#39;es1<=4  &#39;r=@=wih=9-Iver., e ._ e Tiith his family or how he con- Illnicated with  an >§E:,ia1-d ma-1,»: ¢to1d 1»: mung about this+4-1%~?ua.=m -am &#39;1-not"be1 that *IynJ "      eskedo.hei&#39;,;lhe said, >toJca1l&#39;
C on the Campbell family for her, but she has never done it, to date, and does not
like the idea as she does not think she has any business at the Campbell hone and
088 HO?» Ian?» to get plied up with them in any way. She said that the only person
lbs knows of nho has laidoawtblg to her.~eboet-of Harry Campbell iskrk Ihinnex-ya-&#39; she
fjisters knew thetshe _ » "ge o M ___p1n L _ __ _ " H   . J
~,~~:v~ Berry Caipbell and she and all of her sisters want her to stay there until Harry
Iampbell is apprehended and taken conpletely out of _cireulation. She says that
--8he is satisfied that Iynone will notbe paroled as long as Campbell is a fugitive
&#39; and for that reason she and her ethersisters would be very anxious to cooperate
with this Bureau by tbansnitting any informtion they have which would result in
apprehending Campbell, when they all dislike and feel is the sole cause of Iynons &#39;s
being in the trouble she is at the present and being an innate of a penitentiary;
I1-s.Ii1son seemed -sincere when -she -said that--she would cooperate in every respect vs
,» eendit is epper t that"she&#39;7snd her/husb&#39;q;d are so: V in goordinatien _in.thiareggif, ;q,g;_ one  that  @.ll,@as mpg-writer&#39;s telephone number &#39;4
..._and add.-re_ss in El-s&#39; billtoldjend they intend toiedvis-e this -jof anything they regarding Canpbelller any o£_~;his a&#39;esoeiate_.s,god:-;_&#39;*R;vD.py&#39;f§i1son gs  inter-
vviewed again by..this Agent in the ipweeenee -oi L,  andvsgent Kingmn
~4isonssed this nutter with Ir;-"lilies while the &#39;1I&#39;Pit&#39;e1"iEs interviewing rs. Til-
eon. It is apparent that Iilson is very bitter toward Campbell and that he I01-lld
be pleased to hear of him being apprehended or killed and he seems sincere when
he says that he fully intends to advise this Agent of any information he receives
and this opinion is also felt by Agent Kingmsn. 
Hrs. Chuck  Eunicezr/Hughes, and Irs. rk  zuttillhinnery, sisters of
Iynona Burdette, and the lat er&#39;s husband,Ie&#39;r Whinnery, h ve been re-interviewed
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but theyhave no further information to offer and each of them expressed a&#39;willing-
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they might receive. &#39; &#39;_
n .,-a , ._ It was ascertained that Johnkromer, who is mentioned in the report. Qt0* .,.. .,, Wrhia Agent dew       ieq-,5q.,; r  :m#&#39;>-souththe !act»;f_92&#39;-D81? Gron92er.,is i_aaidin3-&#39; Ieggs; p Land  .5connected .511 Undérhkimg C_  $§1e.j  j .1 ed  1"=~=@~=1~@- pews   I »    *i=sf§z¢- e Th leer previously mentioned as an acquaintance 6fEari-,7 &#39;11 . , g _
and Iynona Burdette; according to inforlation obtained from _Postlester &#39;!oI&#39;Ihitten-
burg of Skiatook, Oklahom, is presently engaged as an oil driller near Drumright,
Oklahoma, and his present address is apperantIl.yl_3enera1.vDel.iwar-y at &#39;Drunright.-
Ihile living in Skiatooh he was living with an Indian woman by the nus of lrylilsor
and is apparent]; working with Boy Iilscn, I nephew arson efathis liilson woman; _,
&#39; Hewill be interviewed in tMhenear,_!uture for a!Q&#39;info:-nationtahe  3.gu-ding Eu.rryh0w.gpbeJ.1_;and~his  ereabjeutsrqq ; f-s:""&#39; },   :2,-»_k 1 __ .A,__,.-, .&#39;_ ~,- ,, ~ :._......-,1 ,- &#39;, &#39;4,     Ls 1,,  git <15»-hc_Ok1$hen¢.,9ityy time " V A Qi, y  at _ £;7ogthe_&#39; 5: on-* "Office, mes December the  i&#39;ord§8_e&#39;dan,"-Iotbt-310. "
_1B-ll90702,_;i;:_ic_h was  by 3a.npbell, the naie oi Q. 1". Scanners,
at is-1ns1#&#39;111a>"?1°r1<il,"*i"~e~=¢=t1ns*¢1!n%1?-he .¥13t.*$79.&#39;. sf,  IE
Oklahoma be interviewed to ascertain if they will accept this autonobile. G. C p
Campbell and Lissa Ganpbell, Harry&#39;s parents, and his sister, Laura Campbell, were
interviewed in this respect and expressed a willingness to accept this car if
 are . no storaze  it .0:  noznse ..s=harne.§.n.:e.-9¢>% <><>.sras*=
Ind if the car can be properly registered in Oklahoma in ithe name of G, &#39;0. Caqpbell.
wzavdehnilsjnirvethe ha.ndling_o£&#39; this car are being handled in a separate case._-:g
 is mhtiveagpm eyed they had nee1_§redany<Qr§_ {rm lpeli
$4 ,1; believe fhet they had mt receiv _ an word fpclhi.n__ _  I &#39; &#39;o£.&#39;him I
and ofthe cause"If&#39;hil getti|_|g~ to  Ihat a  oy he Ia! *92
when he washome. Ihey said that the last time they saw him was in 1955 and at _
~that time he still had a noticeable limp caused by the accident he had in Iyoming
when his leg and head were severely cut. ihey do not remember or at least would
not say, which leg was affected, but they said that the tap of hishead would _
likely show several proninent scars. t ~ Y . I _ -_ L  I _sjétéa   not  I extrioly " "§&#39;anxi.ous  Qte thi   _
U  > &#39; » . :92 ._ . -W , - ~ -These senses  inteqienea an we different dates and an thesecond
date Ir. Oampbell hollowed he writercwt dfthe house onto thifporch where w con-versation with ]|iw7h&#39;s om  for a  niznutes  that he ,notwieh ewriterto &#39;  or &#39; cestethi-I!:cany of sRmlly,ib1!t " 11¢ "f $5   °4_ _ ~ 1  &#39;
aibout, a par"-{hem-u  Oklnhénaa he ma hitfathcr pram anzurgaeam»i"&#39;-7?e%§T ;e?5ineinnaned&#39;    niij m-am av-[not been on-speaking
for about a year-it was about a year ago that we heard from him through another -
party. This is likely the time that Campbell came by the Mildred Jones home at
Turley, Oxlahoma on the 28th day of April, 1955 when he probably stopped by to see
his mother, according to the rather indefinite information which has heretofore
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929&#39;92Dbeen lrhilhed thin law twp? South Coffeyville. Can;belJ.&#39;s folks
eeemedtothinkalot ofhin areresignedtothe fact that hewillbekilled
when he is apprehended, especially because of the fact that he is apparently use-
cieted with Alvin Karpis, the so-celled American Public many Io. 1.
&#39; luring the conversation with 0empbell&#39;e relatives, -they advised it
they originally came from Iercer County in western Pennsylvania, and regarding
that, the attention of the Pittsburgh and Olevelend :fiO__Q8___f,§i8_.1ly is d_.led
*»° Hi I11  1"  .tkJ,g.l;oee ff  ;._H Md . "4 * 1&#39;1  ,  :1 H1-~ ea":  "%"&#39; 1 -est  _P  . _ , O is V 44 A r __,letter-=   O -e -e-pl%-ua.1...~,
Iith reference to e letter from Special Agent in Charge E. J. Oonnelley
I18?/el Ht Chi<>&gO, Illinois, Iovember 19, 191&#39;-5 to the Cleveland Office, inquiries
were made at the Post Offices at Iann, South Coffeyville, and Tulsa, Oklahoma, re-
garding any mcney orders that might have been cashed by-l.lt Lett or any Iember of
the Campbell family. At Iann and South Ooffeyville, it was ascertained that no
mone
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