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'dentity of the agents and the purpose of the interview,[?f:fEf:Fprovided the following information:
beI Itook the agents on walk through the areas[:::::] b7cI QI Also present for this walk - I
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would[::::::::::::]everything on the laboratory
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[:::::::]does not recall being in the irradiat' oom[;;:;1thinks that the irradiation area is down either thet??:jorE:::]a way and that.[:;;has walked down that hallway and ast thedoorway to the irra iation room.| lab did send
some items to be irradiated, but those items would have been taken
to the Office of Radiation Safety first and then sent through that
office to be irradiated.
E:::::::]only knows of one lyophilizer at USAMRIID, the
large lyophilizer in the hallway of SuiteE:] in Buildin
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the Bacteriology Division would have had access to the lyophilizer.
People in other divisions at USAMRIID would have had to ask someone
for access to the machine. This lyophilizer has never been in a
hot suite.
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illustratd[::] whereabouts during September and October 2001.
These documents are contained in the 1A envelope and are summarized
as follows:
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i Ioccupied the office rarely, butkept several ofl |items in the room. did not recall the
room number, bu indicated that room sounded correct.
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maintained in a 1A D340!. There were tw hones in
the office, one on desk and the other o desk.
| but had neveren to did not recall| |ever using the telephones in
office area. '
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Idid not recall
the room nu utilizedi Ialso workedoccasionall of the|_ I in
Building in laboratory space belonging tol |and| l
lhad multiple responsibilities durinql Itenureat USAMRIID.| I
|maintained| llaborator notebooks in the
oftice area on the] |floor of Building uld
documen[::] work on loose aper while inside the suite then
chronologically, thus documentation o t e progress of each of
projects was intermingled.
The Special Pathogens Branch of the DSD maintained an
archive of virtually all B.a. strains at USAMRIID in a 80°C
freezer in a suite, Building estimated thatthere were tgousands of cryovials oi primary stocks corresponding
to the hundreds of B.a. strains in the archive. For each B.a.
strain, there were at least 3-5 cryovials of primary original
stock. These primary stocks were generated from cultures of the
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original slants. The Special Pathogens Branch laboratory in
Building[:::] was located] and thefreezer was in the first room of thd | suite.| Idid not
recall the freezer being locked, but indicated that access to the
suite was limited.
For those strains which were used
of the primary stocks were maintained. B.a.
as a virulent strain, thus several vials of
present ' ive. Of the thousands ofmost often, more vials
Ames was used regularly
primary stock were _
cryovials of B.a.
strains, estimated that there were 80 or less tubes ofAmes; no more tgan a cryovial box full,E::::%::::]believed that the
change in the notation on the B.a. Ames stoc s from 'FTDlOO4' to
BAlO04' was part of the reinventory process. To create more
uniformity in the archiving system, the original coding of the
stocks was changed and 'BAf used to represent 'Bacillus anthracis'.
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Each cryovial of primary stock in the archive contained
approximately 0.5 mL of material. A secondary stock of a given B.a.
strain was generated from the corresponding primary stock; however,
most of the vials in the archive were never used in this manner. To
generate a secondary stock of a particular strain, a loop ofapproximately 10 microliters NL! was pullep from a brimarv stock
and cultured on either agar or broth media.
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was not aware of how the Ames original slants were received byUSAMRlID.E;::lnever saw any of the original Ames materials and was
not sure 1 t e primary to k in the archive were derived directlyfrom the original slant.T::E:f:::§Lhad no knowledge of the B.a.
Ames stocks generated by ERUCEAIV S and] I
believed that IVINS was gone by the time that| |arrived atUSAMRIID and thought that he gave his B.a. Ames stocks to[::::::]
his Hscribed in detail the procedures for the shipping
of pathogenic samples. The guidelines differed for the transport of
virulent and avirulent organisms. For requests of virulent
materials, such as B.a. Ames, regulations were followed, as definedby the Select Agents Program of the CENTERS FOR DI§EASE CONIRQLiANDPREVENTION CDC!. To receive Select Agents, thz/requester had to be
registered with the CDC. Prior to shipment of he pathogenic
materials, transfer paperwork, or EA101 documents, were processed
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| |The redominant re uest was for B.a. Sterne an P q I
avirulent strain, as this was a commonly used control in
experimental research. lled sending both Ames and
Vollum B.a. strains on occasion. could not identify the
facilities that requested B.a. Ames. was funded through the
DEFENSE ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS A ARPA! and materials
were oft ' to other facilities under the same DARPA
program. ecalled the frequent exchange of materials with
the UNIV ABAMA, UNIVERSITX OF MARYLAND and a facility in
CHICAGO. " as not sure whether these exchanges included B.a.
Ames, but indicated that the UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND did not
have Ames, nor the BSL laboratory capabilities to handle that type
of pathogen.
| |T¬eprimary stocks of myriad B.a. strains were maint n fhe
Special Pathogens Branch[:::::]suite in Building To enerate
a vial of material for transfer to another facility,
|TypicaIly, the amount prepared
matched exactly the requested amount. Since B.a.
Sterne was requested most frequently, extra vials of secondary
stocks were sometimes prepared to fill future requests.
Due to the special packaging requirements of temperature
materials, the procedure used to prepare requested
for shipment was modified. Modifications included
preparing multiple aliquots in excess of the amount requested and
lyophilizing of these secondary stocks. The lyophilized materials
could be maintained in the refrigerator or at room temperature.
Transport was ' ' the additional temperature
re uirements.sensitive
materials
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recall, one way or Ehe other, ifE:::]1yophiiized samples of B.a.Ames for shipment.g;::]was sure that this procedure was used forshipments of B.a. erne and other organisnw.[:::::::::]did not
recall any requests for specific, or high, concentrations of
organisms. Researchers typically wanted just enough to start a
culture of their own.
Packaging and labeling of the pathogenic maerials was in
accord with the guidelines established by the DEP§5EMENI QF
TRANSPORTATION DOT!. Several layers of packaging were employed,
including initiET'packaging of the materials, followed by placement
in a can and outer box. EAlO1 documentation was included along with
the package and copies kept at USAMRIID. Files should remain at
USAMRI cumenting all of the materials shipped by[::::::::::]
during tenure at USAMRIID.
E::::::] contacted[::::::::]telephonicall in December
2001, afte ' ' ' red if recalledpreparing B.a. Ames from |
ltoldaf| |Hid not recaI1, but su gested that] Inotebooks
at USAMRIID would indicat prepared and to which
a oratories[:::]sent samples. mentioned that investigators
were tracking all B.a. Ames ma eria s at USAMRIID.| |
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UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA maintained B.a. Sterne and B.a. delta Ames,
both avirulent strains.
lrecalled preparing spores using the
Icou d not identify which B.a. strains
were used] Icould not recall, one wav or the other if[:::]produced B.a. Ames spores using| [did norecall producing B.a. spores usinq anv methods]
I |Mostor Ehe spore preparations were generated for personnel in the W
Special Pathogens Branch of the DSD. Spore preparations were also
provided for DNA extractions by scientists conducting PCRexperiments. Small amounts of sfore material, 10 mL or lessr weresupplied for a given PCR studv.
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vaguely the room walkin cooler, but did not remember utilizingthe space for samples. The walkin cooler m?f:hfff:%in used to
store laboratory supplies, such as agar pla did not
recall[::::::] storing sam les in the room cooler, but remindedthe Investigators thatlmmfwas not in Buildingl |all that much.
did not receive spore preparations from other scientists.
Idid not recall making sporepreparations for shipment to other facilities[:::]<did not recall
1 sending out any B.a. Ames spore preparations. If bacterial spore
1 preparations were sent out, they would have been shipped in liquid
form.
could not identity by name other researchers at USAMRIID working
with B.a. Ames.
[::::::::::]did not recall seein I |d uring[:::] tenure at USAMRIID] |never met| q]and still does not know _what[::]looks like. Building| was shared by the entire[:::]and
the same people came and went in he hot suites. did not recallseeing anyone that did not belong.| Idid not recall ever
talkinq tol |on the telephone.| I
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provided the following information:
L These documents are attached herein. i
ocopied the complete] I[ff%:::::::&fEfjwhich is contained in a 1A envelope.
In September 2002, SA Baltimore FBI,
advised that the communication logs for the
evidence have a lot of information about where the letters went, 'lbut the logs also have a lot of holes. i I
At this point in the interview, SA.[::::::]left the room
to photocopy the Daschle letter case file.
The Daschle letter was giv n m le number SPSO257.07.The letter went in and out of Roon1[fi:ffij%] during the time that
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the FBI was photographing it, but there is no documentation of this
movement. There is also no documentation of the Daschle letter
going to Room[:::]for examination b a Postal Inspector who waslooking at the ostal barcode. E;:;;:]knows that the Daschle letterwent into SuiteE::]and[;::Lshowe e Agents the handwritten chain
of custod that documen s he letter being handed over to BRUCEIVINS. [:f:::::]was probably the person who irradiated the Daschle
letter. '
The Daschle letter was handled by the following
individuals: IEEEEEEE5] IVINS LEBI; and a Postal Inspector whose namecould not recall.| |and| Iboth handled the letterin Suite[:::]and.they both primarily worked alone with the letter.
The Daschle letter may have been handled by the fo11owin_
individualszl
The Post letter was given sample number SPSO2.88.01A and
was stored in Suite] L I
The powder from the Post letter was given sample number
SPSO2.88.0lB. The Post letter went to the office of Radiation and
Safety on October 23, 2001.
The Phat ls:
The Post letter mav have been handled by the following
individualszl I
The Leahy letter was given sample number SPSO2.266.02A
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The Brokaw letter and envelope were given sample number
SPSO2.044.02. The Brokaw letter was received at USAMRIID prior to| ' H
vi ed that these photos all look like they were taken in
At this point in the interview, SAN returned from
photocopying the Daschle letter case file.
there was not a lot of documentationof the work done with the Brokaw letter and thatE::] thinks someoneI "qot in trouble" over it.|1?/Z
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I Ihas a lot of spore preparatiqn
wouI be the nest person to taIk to about the
protocols that fuses in[:::]lab.
These samples are stored in a freezer in the hallway nearRoom[:::]in.BuildingE:::%; Each tube is labeled as Bacillus
anthracis with a BAC nu er or whichever enus it was Fo g . r
example, Ames was labeled as BACI.OO8. Each tube was inventoried
and if they were losing tubes they would have known. However,
someone could have taken a tube, thawed it, plated it, and put the
tube back.|
In response to a question regarding whether there was anlab where a lot of B.a. could be grown without being'noticed,[::::2j
advised that there are a lot of people who have their own rooms.ave the example of| I
[:::::] advised that USAMRIID does not have tight safetv
ave the example of who leftin Suite| ifor almost one year. The gossi aE
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ALL Il1FElF!lLZ1.TIlIlI~T CUIJTXLINEIJ
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD '-W12 J-3"l~*"*="-L"= B- "='*-$24
SUBJECT: Possible Anthrax Exposures
1. Beginning on 15 October 2001, the Special Pathogens
Sample Test Laboratory began processing environmental
samples that may have been contaminated with purified or
artially purified Bacillus anthracis spores. [::::::::][fi::::]and I decided that the form of this threat was more
dangerous than samples processed previously. Without
comprehensive knowledge about the virulence of the threat,
we were concerned that some employees may be inadequately
protected and asked for a health survey of our employees by
physicians from the Special Immunization Program. Some
employees were placed on antibiotic prophylaxis as a
conservative response. This action was not taken because
of any particular accident; but to more aggressively
survey our staff to protect their health and safety.
2. Beginning on 15 October 2001, all credible threat
materials and powders were processed at[:::] in suite[::::]
by training personnel. _
3. The POC for this action is the undersigned at[;;;;;;;;]LTUHAM _.¢'I'1'<L_.-"'l'1'l
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/.On April 11, 2oo3,|_ |_| Adate f birth| L Social Security Account/Numbe EscI ijtelephoneL I was intervieweddpélephonically aq lI place of employment, the United State Army Me ical Research
Institute of Infectious Diseases USAMRIID!. After being advised of
the identity of the Agent and the purpose of the interview,[::::]E::::] provided the following information: .
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described the Bacillus anthracis B.a.! Ames aeroso c a enges b2
conducted at USAMRIID during the 1997-1999 time frame. b7F
E:::::::::] provided additional information re arding the post-challenge B.a. concentration determinations.[§:] believed that thepostchallenge plating was conducted using Tryptic SoyMAgar TSA!. b6BRUCE I%1NS performed the plating and would know thertype of agar
used. Q e liquid collected by the All Glass Impinqérs AGIs duringb7Cthese challen e ex eriments was lated in rooms and1___l [iiiilp p ofBuilding[:::: All postchallenge plating has'been conducted in
these areas since the completion of Building[::::]renovations in
1996 or 1997. Prior to that time, researchers from the various
USAMRIID divisions would plate the AGI liquids in their respective
laboratories.
The postchallenge plates were typically placed in
biohazard bags and additional plastic packaging after use. These
bags were then taken to the basement for autoclaving. Due to thnegative pressure and dry atmosphere in rooms[::] and[:::::::::?]
believed that the agar plates would dry out fairly quickly if
left in the aerosol challenge laboratory after use.
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I I Social Security Account NumberI I was
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RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF INFECTIOUS D SES USAMRIID!, FORT DETRICK,MARYLAND MD!, telephone b Special Agents SAs!
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g Irooms in the basement, rooms| |and indicated t ese
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I Irecalled one l ophiZIher, purchased in the mid1980s, in BuildingI Iindicated that the MMCN numbercould be used to determine the exact purchase date.[:::::::::;::ii] bgwas listed on the hand receipt corresponding tT:fhjs instrument. "
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facility in Building[::::] no matter their division, had access to
the lyophilizer. Personnel at USAMRIID would not notice if the
lyophilizer was used at night or on the weekend.
I b6Irecalled that BRUCE IVINL, bicH I and other researchers no longer at USAMRIID aI%o used
the machine] Idid not know what agents or materials were
lyophilized by these scientists. Since the earl l99Os, use of the
instrument has been very infrequent. IVINS and were the
last to use the lyophilizer in the mid to late 1990s did
not know whether Bacillus anthracis B.a.! had ever been dried
using this lyophilizer.[::::ndicated that tests to detect the
presence of B.a. may yield negative results, as this lyophilizer
has been decontaminated with paraformaldehyde.
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related to the maintenance of the lyophilizer. The original Q2
documents are maintained in a 1A envelope FD340!. In May 2001, b7F
the lyophilizer was decontaminated, removed from the containment
area of Building[::::] and taken to LETTERKENNY, an Army depot for
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been nonexistent since the heightening of security measures
following the terror attacks of 09/ll/2001. Prior to that time,
security around USAMRIID was more lax. At times, one person would
gain access to the hot suite by entering a personal key code, open
the door when given the green light, and allow the next person to
follow into the suite without key code reentry. There would be no
record of the second person entering the suite, as exit from the
suite required pushing a button, rather than entering a
personalized key code. Piggy backing does occur throughout the cold
side of USAMRIID, although it was more frequent prior to
O9/ll/2001.
remembered| I f [::] t t bf rom enure a ;;
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'hellos'. |recoqnized| I and kne |position and for whom
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lnot do much to call attention to recalled seeing
in the containment suite of Buil ing e ween Buildings
and , and at[::] desk 'ust off of the Inition, recalled seeing [2:]work in room of Building
/ I Iknew of work onlv through[:::;;;]| Iwas a| |working in e same
qrop as knew that worked closely with, _ ' _| L Most of I knowledge of[::::%;]derived from
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addition,L;;;1was unaware of any association - withSENATOR D E .r SENATOR LEATIY, or the NEW4Y6§K POST. hadno personal k 6wledge of Hbw| laccessed the int atUSAMRIID, bufnindicated that t ere were a lot of waysifgf did not
hear stories of chemical and biological warfare directly from| but recalled beinq told bv caretakers and others o ' I
stories.
[:::::::]had access to B.a. Ames, as did an one withauthorization to enter the hot side of Building[::::i It was common
for the researchers in the buildin to be aware of which biologicalorganisms were studied by others.Ef::::::]advised that if a person
knew what he was doing, he would ave an easy time of taking B.a.rljfrom USAMRIID. |Idid not store samales in room
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RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF IN SES USAMR D!, FORT DETRICK,
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e i en i ies o e interviewing Agents and the purpose of theinterview,[:::::]provided the following information:
E;;;g:::] primar work areas are Suites[:] and[::]ofBuilding and roomE:f:]on the cold side of Building
Bacteriology and anima studies are conducted in Suites andOn occasion has used the microscope on of
Building on the cold side.[::::] indicated that piggy backing
does occur roughout USAMRIID; however,E:] has never seen it
- happen when personnel are entering the hot suites.
E:::::]wears gloves in the laboratory when handling vials
of bacteria and for any manipulation of organisms.[::]is typically
without gloves when retrieving chemicals and media from the shelves
and when working with noninfectious materials.[:::::]does not wear
gloves when[::]handles the following equipment: computers,
telephones, microscopes and instrument controls.
In 1.]. ,.,:,USAMRIID.
| | BRUCE IV/INS maintains alyophilizer id |of Building I The instrument is accessible to
everyone, as i is on the col S1 e of the suite. Before
09/ll/2001,[::]was not locked during the day, but was locked at
night. The Principle Investigator PI!, IVINS in this case, would
be contacted for permission to use the lyophilizer.[:::::]never saw
the lyophilizer in use and did not believe that it was ever located
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[:::::] obtained wet B.a. Ames spores for the[:::::]experiments from
IVINS. IVINS laboratory grew the spores in Leighton Doi liquid Amediai using a shaker and a three day incubation period in the '
dark.
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experiments, autoclaved the B.a. Ames spores[::]obtained from
IVINS .
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obtained from IVINS and were grown in
flask. Antibiotics were used to select
clones with the GFP plasmid. The Ames stock obtained from IVINS was
autoclaved. _
[::::::]made spores using non-virulent B.a. strains. The
production method depended on the strain being used. SBA plates
were,used most often; however, B.a. Sterne was grown using| Ispores for the project were
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[:::::]did not participate in opening letters from the
anthrax mailings of September and October 2001. never handled
; any of the letters nd d'd a 1 not conduct analyses o any of thg/* ' the letters. BRUCE IVINS,T |
were the principal plavers in the/handling
ofthe letter eviaence. I
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/I I born social b6security numberI , was interviewed at place of; b7C
employment, UNI MY MEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF
,TNFECTIOUS DISEASES US RIID!, Fort Detrick, Frederick, Maryland,
phone numberI 1_ After being advised of the identit ofthe interviewing agents and the nature of the interview,[:::::f]
provided the following information:
is theI IatUSAMRIID. d in laboratories in both Bui1dingI I
and Buildin is vaccinated for entr into BioSafety
Level BSL! and "hot suites" at USAMRIID. has worked
with Bacillus anthracis Ba.! in the past,
b6H W _ received purified Cb7
Ba. spores sus ended in water from DR BRUCE IVINS which was usedcontinually in? I The spores| keceived [III]
were never lyophilized and were eventually all used up during the
I Iperformed most of the preparationforI Iwork on Ba. in Room of Building[::::]at USAMRIID.stated that was performed in a different g?
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anyone who has ever lyophilized live Ba spores.
A I .,The lyophilizer is manufactured by Virtis an
came to USAMRIID in 2002. The USAMRIID identifier for the
lvophilizer is MMCN numbed I
I This instrument is manufactured
by Virtis and was purchased by USAMRIID in 199 e otherlyophilizer is located in Room[:::Iin BuildingI:::?and was also
manufactured by Virtis» This instrument came to USAMRIID in 1988.
believes th was - ry Ba
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lyophilized contained only killed, irradiated spores.[:::::::]had
no knowledqe of anyone ever lvophilizinq live Ba. I I
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does not recall any instances of any individualswho violated USAMRIID security protocol by improperly using their
access badge or "piggy backing" into any part of the facility. b?[:::::] never noticed-any suspicious activity by individuals and bjcnever saw any unauthorized personnel use any oftif equipment.
' [::::::] had only cursory knowledge ofand did not associate withJ:::lon a regular basis. neverworked with[::::::]and di no recall ever seeing h1[::]
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did not handle the letters or envelopes from the I, or| | mailings. | I |
Piggybacking through doors around the institute is
frequent, however there is not any piggybacking into hot suites
because a key code is needed to enter them.
. does not know| ver b,x met nor aiE§5:lever spoken toi gsaw around b$cthe n i ute, but id not know name a he time.
sa usin the photoco ier located near the back door ofBui ing never sawE:::]in Building[::::]or anywhere else
around the institute.
|:| left USAMRIID after: be an b6
employment there.[:::} did not know of any association that b7t
may have had with New Jersey or with Princeton University.
never heard[::::::] make any comments about Senator Tom Dasc e,
Senator Patrick Leahy, Tom Brokaw, or the New York Post.
had no knowledge of[:::::::]discussin nthrax 92with anyone. robably accessed the internet frmn[j%:office at
USAMRIID, and id not know where[:::::::::]office was located.
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Egggjdid not know where[::::::] worked while at USAMRIID, nor where
stored[:::]work materials.
The only lyophilizer at USAMRIID that[::::::]knows of is
located in the hallway of Suite[::::::::]has never used that
lyophilizer, and [::]does not kno operate it It is usedapproximately one time per year. Y:§f§:Ejdid not know if the
lyophilizer had ever been in a hot suite ' access toSuite[::] which would be ever one in the[::fZiiff::iirDivision, hasaccess to the lyophilizer.[::f::::]does not now o anyone outside
the division who has access to the lyophilizer.
During the spring of 2001, Suitel Iwas shut down for
renovati0n.| |
[:::::::]has made a lot of B.a. Ames spore preparations.[:::;]wFs trained to make spores usinq the Leiqhton Doi broth method
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[:::::::]provided the following description of how [::]made
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and ultraviolet liqht IVINS transported the spores, and this was
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of command at USAMRIID for shipment outside of USAMRIID. For
movement inside USAMRIID, an internal document needed to be
com leted B a could be shipped in either liquid or frozen formandE| had no knowledge of samples being lyophilized and
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institute, however there should not be any piggybacking into hot
suites. [:::::::::::] had no knowledge of the presence or location
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USAMRIID, but it does not hap en in the hot suites because ofsecurity and safety reasons. E:::;:ladvised that one could "get in
trouble" for piggybacking into a o suite.
The only l o hilizer at USAMRIID that[:::;:]was aware ofis located in Suitein Building; He advise that this
lyophilizer is never used and thinks t at it has always beenlocated in Biosafety Level BSLIg:]lab0ratory space. Anyone has
access to the lyophilizer, as a adge is not needed to gain access
to the area where it is located.
[:::::]advised that a speed vac, an instrument used to
precipitate deoxyribonucleic acid DNA!, can be used as an
alternative to a lyophilizer for drying material. Speed vacs can
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brought into Suite recently, and there are a number of speed
vacs located throughout USAMRIID. '
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material was extremely powdery. The large amount of material
present, as well as the lack of clumping were evident when viewed
through the microscope.
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on the cold side through the IVINS' independent swabbing project
were from the Daschle letter material.
There is'a rule at USAMRIID that individuals are supposed
to wear gloves when working in the hood. USAMRIID does not want
people to wear gloves in the hallways or in other "grey areas".
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share spore preps with anyone at USAMRIID. as not received
any B.a. Ames spores from anyone within or outside the institute.
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i Idoes not have access to Buildingbecause| ldoes not have the necessary vaccinations. Thereforehas not s ored any of[:::]material in the Room[:::]walk in cool .
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