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ll II_-r -"-.-.--- SDS! would spon Free the Panther 2 lly at
2:00 p.m. on Apri 1, 1970, at Washington Place, New
York City NYC!.
Characterizations of the SDS and the Black
Panther Party BPP! are attached hereto.
On April 1, Special Agents SAS! of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI! obseeved
approximately 250 people attend a rally outside of 15
Washington Place, NYC, from 2:20 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. in
support of the NYC Panther 21.
The speakers included Dharuba of the NYC Panther
21, Abbie Hoffman and two unidentified people, all of whom
spoke in support of freeing the Panther 21.
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Dick if he stands in the way of our freedom. we'll kill
anybody if he stands in the way of our freedom.
Abbie Hoffman spoke for five minutes during which
time he spoke in support of the NYC Panther 21, stating that
all prisoners are political prisoners.
The Panther 21 are 21 members of the BPP in
NYC, who were indicted by the New York County
Grand Jury in NYC on April 2, 19b9, on charges
of conspiracy to commit murder and arson.
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Attached hereto is an article captioned, "Hoffman
Dharuba Speak at Square Rally; 1&0 March On Med School,
Disrupt Speech", which appeared in the April 2, 1970, issue
of the "Washington Square J0urna1",an NYU student newspaper
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Dharulva of the Paiither 21 lei] 506 .-tutluntn
in a fenrurous rally yesterday aftrrrrr-on,
rlrmnndin: release of the irnpriaontil Pim-
thers and radical reformation of the Belle-
vue Medirnl Center.
Some 50 chanting and jeering radirnl
students lnter carried their l'lli_y to the
Nl'L' Medical Center, where they rausu-d
the cancellation of It lperth on biologirnl
warfare after police had kept. I80 persons
from entering the Merlirn] School complex
Stngerl nt 9292'|u92l'|ingtnn Place between
irrrne and Horror Streets, the 2 pm rnlly,
closely scrutinized by mounted police and
officers, ate; the apartment building faring
the congregation, was aponsored lo! l92'92'L'-
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eorninz down on the people that Tricky
Dick; putting on us," anut Dhnruhn, one
of 2! Panther: rhnrged with conspiring tn
bomb uptown depnrtment shores, and mut-
der police. "We don't wont to he |1l92l!l92'P
in tltv Ii-92.~r nl' lu-ihg nilirvlorr-rl. '0 l'lnn'|.
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'l"he pigs ia up there ohullling their
feet," Dharuha mid, eyeing a helmeted pol-
ieemnn eoverinp the street. "They're trying
to arnrr the |-r--pliu The people goim! 1° PHI
those punts against the wall. If t-hey don't
go, we're going to deal with that." -
New Panther Slogan
Dhnruba mentioned the new alogun of
the Black Panther Party to be printed on
pancake-aized buttons ahortly, and encour-
aged a repetition of it by the crowd. "We'll
kill anyone who stands in the way of our
freedom," Dharuba aaid. After repeating it
again, and drawing considerable response
from the erowd, he aaid, Now here: where
ore all go to jail. We'll kill Tricky Diclt 'il'
he atandn in the way of our freedom." He
eoneluded by laying, I thinlt I'll go back
on to Babylon and iii. arreited, referring
to Quaena, where t-he Panthera are being
held.
Holman took the lllatfonn. blvini 315!
nore with a lmall American ag. "lt'| Juat
Old Glory blowing in the wind." he ex-
plained. Hoflrnan then denounced the Co-
lumliin Hrondcanting System for electronic-
all_92- blocking out hie American ag nhirt
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111,- network for n-timing 16 cover n lllnrk
l".ll'|2l'lt'I pr:-as conference in Harlem.
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lnmrh of hook! rnristo too. We're all It big
conspiracy. T'hey'rs- not going to take us
all. They're n01 izl-we to put us all in jail.
All trials in America are political trials. 92
All prisoners are political prisoners."
".'-in:-iy pr! rent 0| the people in jail
are lJlDt"lt," llotfmun said Ninety per cent
arr young. Ninety per cent haven't had a
for-king trial. Everyone should go to I min-
lI'llum security ji-illike NYL . . . We're all
niggers. We're all} 92'iet-canto." he said.
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Hoflman a ."Tlial.'.92 Huh!-Inn. We're going
to haw liartille Day."
Eric irsingrr. In NYU ntwliczil atudehl.
aenr-ed NYU and Bt'll@92'uQ Medical Center,
and urgeii radirnl reform. "We're going on
the East Side, screening for lead poisoning
in kids one to F-ix years old." Lesinger said.
He sold l~t of hit urine snmplen token re-
venlecl n lcml r'-ni;»~».inr'l which produces ir-
rt-tgereiblr ll!lll!'! clnmngs-. The ', !'![l"-'!!!l'|.!i
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an alert. "The only 'Onrll-'l.'u0n you cn come
to i! that there nrc rliseases of oppreaeitm-"
he snid. He supported thnt roncluaion by
rt-sunning thnt only poor people are affectl.
and beenu.-se they are prevrntibie.
lt'a genocide because it: preventilile."
Le.-iinizer said. Thousands 01' people are
lore;-:1 to be clrprrtvlr-nt on. NYU- and NYU
explicitly relurtes to ma that responsibil-
ity." The dependency on NYU arisen, he
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Abbie Hoffman displayed his usuol min-
lure of politics and humor yesterday.
NYU is o minimum security prison," ha
told his racaplive listeners.
said, because NYU runs the medical aer-
vices at Belilevue by contract with the city.
Thousands are forced to depend cm Belle-
vue and NYU doesn't give a shit," Losin-
ger said.
A female member of the Dec. ll move-
ment went on to list demands against NYU
the group advocated. "NYU should give
$1.3 million to free the Panther 21, which
will be reparations to the people," she llid.
"There ahould be decentralisation of the
NYU Health Service. There should be com-
munity control of the Medical Center. Nae
admissions policy should be ch-a'n|;ed so
more blnrlts, browns, and women be admit-
led to I-he Medical School which she said
has seven Negroes and 60 women among
700 students presently.! There should be
tree abortions. Is-an Bennett the NYU
Medical Center's new director! should be
s-emove immediately.
The rally broke up at 3 pm, as students
were urged to go to the NYU Medical Cen-
ter at First Ave. and 32 St. to protest Ben-
nett's speech. on chemical and biological
warfare at 4 pm.
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sic! is speaking at the Medics] Center . . .
0'5 the nisbjrct nf chemical and binlogirnl
wiirfdre, about avhirh he knows a gr;-rit
Il "]4 llennrt sin! himself iii nnly mi 5;-
ample of the way NYU functions, but if
We VIM 10 hcttin to make the University
change its fascistie policies, if Ire warn, in
show that we sre serious shout iri;!=_i_-i;__-
Bellevue serve the Lower East Side, tihen
Ben!"-l llic! is s rooil place to begin to
confront the NYU nflmirliatration and trus.
ken.
Afltl the I80 demonstrators arrived st
the Center at 550 First Ave, a husload of
rint_r92lir= lnvrirlfri" rn-or ft-nrn [has wnehinp.
ton Square rally, blockrd their entrance to
the psrltint: lot. Vice Chancellor Whitemnn
told the irroup thnt only those with NYU
identication curds would be permitted to
enter. 5on1: 150 students produced cards,
while most. of the other demonstrators left,
Inside the building, the students con|;r¢_
stale-Ii utsirle I-he Medical School Auditor.
i|,|rr| chanting, lln, Ho, Ho Chin Minh" snd
"licy. Hey, AMA, how many people did you
liiil today."
When the demonstrators tried to enter
the auditorium they were prevented by
University oicials who said that they could
enter after Medical students and invited
guests had.
"That'.= r---t good on--in-sh, yelled one stu-
Ilent, and about 20 rushed to the auditor-
ium doors trying to enter. University of-
ficials and guards briefly scuttled with the
students, and rebuffed them,
After about 45 minutes, outside the au-
ditorium and several unsuccessful at-
tempts to force their way in, the demons-
trators were told by Whiternan that the
sneerh hnd been cancelled.
The students then left the building to
catch a "free subway" back to the Wash-
lltgtnn Square cumpus. ' -
The title of Bennett's speech was "Chem-
ical and Biological Warfare: Prospects for
Arms control and Disarmament."
In a prepnrerl_tcst Bennett snid, "My ob-
jectives ill this elmlenvoi-iii-e sirriple; I svlsh
to see chemical and biological weapons abol-
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According to its official LEYSp3p8T, the Flack
Panther Party BPP! was started during December, 1956, in
Oakland, California, to organize black people
take control of the life, politics, and the destiny of the
black community. It was organized by BOBBY GECRGE SEALE,
BPP Chairman, and HUEY P. NE TEN, BPP Minister of Defense.
NEWTON is presently serving a sentence of 2 to 15 years on a
conviction of manslaughter in connection uith the killing of
an Oakland police officer.so they can
The official newspaper, The Black Panther , thich
further describes itself as the Black Community Ners Service
states that the BFP advocates the use of guns and guerrilla
tactics in its revolutionary program to end oppression of the
black people. Residents of the black community are urged to
arm themselves against the police who are consistently
referred to in the publication as "pigs" tho should be killed.
"The Black Panther issue of September ?, 1965,
contains an editorial by BPP Minister of Education, GEORGE
MASON MURRAY, thich ends uith the following:
"Black men. Black people, colored persons of
America, revolt every here: Arm yourselves. The only culture
worth keeping is a revolutionary culture. Change. Freedom
everywhere. Dynamite! Black Pouer. Use the gun. Kill the
pigs eveiwwhere.
Included in the introduction to an article appearing
in the October 5, 1968, edition of The Black Panther is the
statement, ... ue will not dissent from American Government.
he will overthrow it.
Issues of "The
quotations from the writ
The national headquarters of the BF
3106 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley, Oalifornia. Branches have toolBlack Panther regularly contain
ings of Chairman Rio Tee-tung of the
Peoples Republic of China and feature M50: statement tna;
political poser grows out of the barrel of acj1:n . "L_..-..
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established at various ]n¢nr1~ns thr»»nh»=t the Unites States.
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it th Students for a lento-cratic. 1 P 5
Society SDS!, as presently regarded, c?me into beinc at a
ion held June, 1962 at Port Huron Michigan. founding conven
From an initial
01 the national
adherence which
ary youth movem
At the June, 1969, SUS National Convention,
PLP! iorces in the organization were expe
a result, the National Oiiice N0! group maintained it
Headquarters at ln08 West Madison Street, Chicago, and
up headquarters in Cambridge, Massachusett
headquarters subsequently moved to Boston. Each group
its own national officers, which include three nationaLabor Party
faction sett * , ,
posture or "participatory democracy" the line
leadership has revealed a growing Marxist-Leninist
currently calls for the building of a revolution-
ent. Concurrently, the program oi SDS has evolved
from civil rights struggles to an anti-Vietnam war stance to an
advocacy or a militant anti-imperialist position. China, Vietnam
and Cuba are regarded as the leaders or worlduide struggles
against United States imperialism whereas the Soviet Union is
held to be revisionist and also imperialist.
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and a National Interim Committee of eight. Both the N0
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print theirrogressive
led. As
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forces claim to he the true SDS. Both groups also
versions of "ew Left Notes which sets forth the
line and the program of the particular faction. The HO version
of "New Left Notes" was recently printed under the title "The
Fire Next Time" to achieve a broader mass appeal.
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Two major factions have developed internally within the
NO group, namely, the Weatherman or Revolutionary Youth Movement
RYM! I faction, and the RYM II faction. Weatherman is action-
oriented upholding CASTHO's position that the duty of revolu-
tionaries is to make revolution. Weatherman is regarded by
RYH II as an adventuristic, elitist faction which denies the
historical role of the working class as the base for revolution.
RYM II maintains that revolution, although desired, is not
possible under present conditions, hence emphasizes organizing
Ind raising the political consciousness of the working class
upon whom they feel successful revolution depends. Although
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srupsnrs son A_psMQcnAj;c soc;nTg_;9opt'o!
disclaiming control and domination by the Communist Party, USA,
leaders in these two factions have in the past proclaimed
themselves to be communists and to follow the precepts of a
Marxist-Leninist philosophy, along pro-Chinese communist lines.
hat the PLP factio 92> Lwhich is more y nown as t e Worker Student Alliance.
is dominated and controlled by members of the PLP, who are
required to identify themselves with the pro-Chinese Marxist-
Leninist philosophy of the PLP. They advocate that an alliance
between workers and students is vital to the bringing about of
1 revolution in the United States.
SDS regions and university and college chapters,
although operating under the outlines of the SDS National
Constitution, are autonomous in nature and free to carry out
independent policy reflective of local conditions. Because
of this autonomy internal struggles reflecting the major
factional interests of SDS have occurred at the chapter level
since the beginnirg of the 1969-70 school year.
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Times" city edition Tuesday, April 20,
that a new party of "revolutionary
socialism" was formally founded on April 18. 1965, under the
name of the PLP, which had been known as the Progressive
Labor Movement.The "New York
1965, Page 27, reported
According to the article, "The Progressive Labor
Movement was founded in 1932, by MILTON ROSEN and HORTIHER
SCHEER after they were expelled from the Communist Party of
the United States for assertedly following the Chinese
Communist line."
that the PLP "! ! ! ' onv n ion in !ew ark Cit Ma 31, held i s econd 'at1onal C e t y, y
June 2, 1968, at which time the PLP reasserted its objective
of the establishment of a militant working class movement
based on Marxism-Leninism. This is to be accomplished through
the Party's overall revolutionary strategy of raising the
consciousness of the people and helping to provide ideological
leadership in the working class struggle for state power.
lt at the Second National
Convention, was unanimously re-elected National
Chairman of the PLP and LEVI LAUB, FRED JEROME, JARED ISRAEL,
IILLIAM EPTON, JACOB ROSEN, JEFFREY GORDON and WALTER LINDER
were elected as the National Committee to lead the PLP until
the next convention.to
The PLP publishes Progressive Labor", a bimonthly
magazine; "World Revolution", a quarterly periodical; and
"Challenge-Desafio", a monthly newspaper.
The April, 1969, issue of "Challenge-Desafio",
sets forth that "Challenge is dedicated to the peoples
fight for a new way of life-where the working men and women
control their own homes and factories; where they themselves
lake up the entire government on every level and control
the schools, courts, police and all institutions which are
nor used to control them."
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On April 12, 1970, Agents of the Federal Bureau of
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sisting of approximately 200 persons proceed from Elizabeth
Baldwin Park at Elgin and Crawford Streets in the direction
of Hermann Park in Houston, Texas. The marchers carried various
signs and banners indicating their opposition to the Vietnam
War. Various chants and singing was engaged in by the marchers
while en route to Hermann Park.
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gathered near the Miller Amphitheater in Hermann Park and _
conducted a rally which included speeches by several individuals,
including Mexican-Americansand.Negroes and the main speaker,
Abbie Hoffman, who was publicly identified as one of the "Chicago
7" who had recently been convicted of conspiracy in connection
cwith riots during the Democratic convention in Chicago.
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announcement that an additional rally and speech by Hoffman
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8:00 PM, April 12, 1970. 1
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Abbott Howard H0ffm&n appeared as n guest on the
Merv Griffin Show a panel discussion show, which was aired
at 11:30 PM, March 27, 1970 on WCBS-TV, Channel 2, New York
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Ladies and gentlemen, Abbie Hoffman '
self-proclaimed revolutionary is
about to Join-Merv Griffin on this
recorded program. During the
actual taping last night Mr. Hoffman
wore a shirt made of an American
flag and as you'll hear him point
out this use of the flag raised a
serious legal problem. Because of
the possibility of violation of law
as to disrespect and desecreation
of the flag and to avoid affronting
many of our viewers we will present
Mr. Hoffman's discussion with Merv
and his other guests but we will -
mask by electronic means his use of
the flag as e garment. I hope you
will agree that this is the best
procedure for meeting our obligations
as responsible broadcasters.
unintelligible! this is their
album called "American Enitar"which
means "God on Earth"?
Right
It's the sound of group sou1_being
born. It's quite a handsome
community of people. Can you take
that picture? Sitting on a hilltop,
with a big tower, is that tower on
your property?
Well it belongs to the city of
Boston technically. _
Alright. The young man who is about
to Join us is one of the eight
defendants in one of the most highly
publicized courtroom trials in American
history. He's a self-styled revolutionary
the author of these two books
Woodstock Nation" and "Revolution for
the Hell of 1t". And a subject of
anenormous amount of controversy,
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I'm meeting him for the first time,
where is he?
Back stage.
Here's Abbie Hoffman. unintelligible!
Arthur Treacher, Virginia Graham. '
I thought what you said about women
was very degrading. Since I'm not
a women I can't discuss that but....
You're not involved in that women's
movement are you? _
Can I take my coat off? unintelligib
this because two weeks ago Roy Rogers
and Dale Evans, who are two of my
heroes, they own the same shirt. This
shirt it was made....it started at
the Housecfiamerican Activities
Committee where I was arrested for
wearing it. There's a law against
this, it's now in the Seventh Circuit
Court of Appeals I believe, it is not
in the Supreme Ceurt. Theyve made
about fifty arrests under this, a
year in prison....
For wearing that?
Well it depends who you are that wear
it. I mean all the people who are
arrested, all fifty who were arrested,
were young peopie, iong haired peopie.
The television isn't working too good,
my hair is down to my shou1ders....
You've had it cut, haven't you Abbie?
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Oh, Delilah. The Philistines in
Chicago did, they sell our hair
at Republican fund raising dinners,
the sheriffs and.... -
In the revoJutionary.... '
T want to say one thing Merv, besides
I'd probably get interrupted at the
end of the show. But this shirt...
when the Government answered to
Justify under law under which it was
tried, this shirt, they filed a brief
And it say: the importance of a flag
in developing a sense of loyalty to
a national unintelligible! has been
the subject of numerous essays. The
first essay they quote is a man named
Adolf Hitler, it was called "Mein
Kempf". It was really quite interest
I mean, I brought it to prove that...
You want to prove everything you
say, right?
What is patriotism to you Abbie?
I'll look it up.
?atriotism is copetition with ones
ancestors. You hear that?
Patriotism?
Yeah, patriotism - competition with
ones ancestors.
Well I think we are in competition
with our ancestors, many of whom areing.
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I used to go to school, so schools
have a way of dropping out from
us.
Did you participate in school
functions and all that kind of stuff?
Where did you go wrong?
I think I went wrong in 1960 when I
lived in the House of American
Activities and I went south to _
Mississippi, got shot at a few times,
and arrested a few times, and you .
know, went on trial a few times for
like shirts and things like that and
not fastening your seat belts and
{unintelligible}. And finally ended
up in Chicago on trial for conspiracy,
to have a intention of crossing the
state line in a certain state of mind.
You know thats one of the most weirdcs
laws in history, that law for con» I
spiracy in a state of mind to cross
state lines with intention is the
same as the law about this shirt.
I'm not going to be arrested here
tonight because I'm protected here by
Merv, which is the ultimate anti-
ba11istic.....
As a matter of fact I am one of
America's biggest bomb!
My bags were searched as I came in.
Talk seriously now. I know that
your method is to provoke the audience
but these chances are rare, cause
you maybe in the'ba before too long.
And you won't get a chance to speak
up. when did you decide to become
a revolutionary?
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Can I ask him a question?
Yes.
How has Chicago changed you personally?
Well I think that it has intensified
everything that I understood about
law and it has no relationship to
justice, its only there to keep people
in power.
Why are you not in Jail at this
moment?
I'm not in jail because five hundred
thousand brother and sisters of mine
took to the streets and burned the
Bank of America and other state
institutions in the country. And at
that particular time in history, the
Government found it more expeditious
to let us out than to keep us in at
that time. But we have a number of
trials, I just noted that I lost one
in Chicago, and I have two coming up
in New York and Bobby Seale one of
the eight is faced with the electric
chair in a framed up charge in New
Haven. And Timothy Leary, I think
he has been on this show....
A couple of times.
Well, you might not know it, but he
was just given twenty years for
charges, and he's in jail in Southern
California. -
That's right, Abbie's a home ec
of per excellence. That's what the
Judge said to. He said that he's a
menance, he used a'Tlayboy" interview
send him up for ten years. You '
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mentioned one of my books and that
book was the first book ever used
against a defendant in the history
of this country, it wasn't like an
obscenity trial. You know some people
say our trial was because of our
language. But we're going through
a change in this country, I mean the
regime of President Agnew and General
Mitchell has a new line, and the new
line is that there will be that there
will he no descent, no meaningful
descent. This might be illegal becaus
not just for the shirt you know, the
fact that lm stoned, but what lim
saying might be seditious.....we're
out on the condition that we don't
make any seditious statements, which
is defined by the Attorney General.
W111 you appeal your case to the
Supreme Court?
We have a number of lawyers working
on appeals in the Supreme Court left.
We kind of think that in two years
we'll have to appeal it to the FBI.
But there are lawyers who are making
an attack on the whole judicial system
The manner of which the jury is
selected ....
What would be if you didnt have all
these charges against you Abbie?
what would be your plan for America?
What do you think the system of the
society should be?
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Hill tried to see that it comes to
the whole world, the whole nation
like what was exhibited up in Woodstoc
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_ violence, I mean Woodstock wasn't
- pa a violent....
Abbie Hoffman: Violence is a.....any system that
practices racism and imperialism
is a violent system and landlords e
are violent people, bankers are
robbers,just pushing people and
stuff like that is violence.
Merv Griffin: But by the way you are provoking
people and instilling fear into a
large majority of people in America?
Abbie Hoffman: I dont know how much is a majority
we never got a chance to test that'
in a court because we were not tried
by a jury of our peers. then the
verdict came down we tried by a jury
of our peers in the street. And as
I said half a million people came
out in protest oi the trial because
they felt basically that they were
on trial with us and the whole
generation was on trial. We tried
by a jury whose average age was
52, the judge I think was 75 which
was e young chick compared to like
Doctor Spock and their conspiracy
trial where their judge was like
B6. You know theytevery rich millionaries
who live in a certain part of town _
and see a certain kind of reality and
when they got to the juryroom two
Jurors said right off that we should
be shot because of the way we dressed.
Four people still think that we are
innocent but they are liberals. They
think that to this day we are innocent,
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How could unintelligible! be
selected?
Two hours, it was like record
breaking time for a trial like this.
He would not allow our lawyers to
ask a single question. Namely like
"Would you let yourdaughter marry
a yippie", "Is the Jefferson Airplane
a rock group or a portable sofa".
Station Break!
I never mention that unintelligible!
the real title is "Fearless Blood"
and 1 tnlun tnet is tne neeviest
line in modern literature, the publishers
being what they are and sticking up
for free speech are sensitive about
the book unintelligible! why I was
in prison, so 1 never like to talk
about the book except that it is
called "Fearless Blood".
Answer me once and for all though, .
what do you want for America? You're
obviously anti-capitalist? What
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humanity called the wor1d_or a planet
I think, I don't have an nationalistic
concept that takes......I think its
a lot because of TV, I mean people
in Vietnam who are fighting, young
people see them as their brothers and
sisters. They see people in Feris
struggling in the streets as young
people as their brothers and sisters.
They're part of the whole world. In
that sense they are not part of a
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But do they control all of your
angers? ' '_
It's frightening. '
The basis of all of your anger and
your protest is the Vietnam war
isn't it?
No, I don't think the Vietnam war
is just some sort of accident, you
know say where John Kennedy rolled
over in bed and said to Jackie Lets
get involved in Vietnam - thats
what they call getting involved, the
genocide of 500 million people. So
I dont think that it is an accident
I think that it's part of a unintel
ligible! foreign policy thats
imperialist.
Do you mind if I bring a guest out
with an absolutely opposed views
to yours?
I'm here already.
In a moment I will bring out a young
man who.....
Merle Hagert, I'll only discuss with
Merle Hagert and Johnny Cash....
Do you know Tom Dolan from Yale
University?
From what University?
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No, we don't have_an agent there.
Do you know of him?
No, I don't know him. Is he from
Yap or something like that?
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He'll explain his position
Station Break!
I turned you down.
You turned me down?
I turned you down about a year ago,
I wou1Jnt come on. I didnt think
Ho Chi Minh started this way.
Our next guest is a young man by
the name of iony Dolanj a member
of the editorial board of Yale
University and a regular contributor
to the "National Review". Mr. Dolmm
I think it is safe to say, can be
termed a right-wing conservative
and hence present the view of the
other side of the coin of the some
of the issues Hr. Hoffman has been
discussing= Mr= Tony Dolen!
You boys going to be all right. I
have water here to throw on either
one of you.
Anything in particular that you have
heard so far that you would like to
rebut Tony?
It occurred to me while Mr. Hoffman
was talking that....
Abbie!
Abbie as far as I feel either affection
towards you or respect you, I'll call
you Mr. Hoffman if you don't mind.
You'll let me finish won't you, I'm
not Judge Hoffman. Now the point
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that occurred to me from differences
of opinion, he.isn't talked about
on a great deal of campuses, so
I haven't talked about or heard much
about him. unintelligible! it's
simply not taken that seriously.
That's a lie
You haven't been there.
I was at Yale.
I know you were, I'm saying talked
about on the campuses and that means
simply that you dont appear in the
newspaper your name isn't there, .
yourenot considenaialeading light by
anyone.
A lot of people come and say we're
behind you, I say you ought to be
in front.
Host of them are above you I'm
afraid. The point is simply this
maybe because he is over 30, maybe
because he is knomuaffectionately
to some for his warm and human witty
style as comic Jonathan winters, the
revolution. Whatever the ....I
think the point to be made is this
that Mr. Hoffman talked about an
oppresive racial society, but you
can dispute that with fact easily
enough. You can for instances say..
Oh come on, will you.
If you.....
May I talk please. You know the
question occurred to me, who really
uses the storm to protect us, who
starts up meetings, who prevents
other people from their point of vie
from being heard. A conservative
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see, nobody knew that.. Around was
kind of a liberal image of what's
conservative should be, and that
is automatically a ration. So
naturally when Barry Goldwater voted
against the Civil Rights Bill for
constitutional reasons he was auto-
matically labeled a racist. The
ew York Times somehow did-not
feel any great need to write an
editorial to that effect. Its the
liberal double standard, anyone she
disagrees with John Lindsay for
instance did the same thing to Hilliam
Buckley in i965. Buckley said we
have to take the narcotic addicts
off the street and so what happens
because they obviously play a large
part in the crime in this country....
Well let me finish my point, my
point is Just this, Lindsay thus
accused Buckley of wanting to set up
"concentration camps" in new York
City. They said Buckley is runninghis campaign was "the worst moment
in history. This is the type of
thing that has been used against
conservatives, its terribly unfair
of course but it's a stero type that
liberals entertain themselves with.
Do you believe that there are any
changes to be made in America?
There are lots of changes, well....
Name some common one.
Well, reordering our perspective
Mr. Griffin. Introspection is good,
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it becomes crippling or unhealthy and
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mentality that_makes apologies for
instance for an Abbie Hoffman or a
William Kunstler. Kunstler, Hoffman
and Rubin made it very'olear that
they were going to Chicago to make
a frontal attach on our judicial
system. New there are lots of people
who felt the need to apologize for
them, there are lots of people like....
who h&ve.not spoken out against them.
what about unintelligible! Abbie?
The judicial system. I think we
plan to make fools of every institution
in America. It's doing a pretty good
job, I mean just take Yale University.
Look I don't like Yale University,
it's a totally liberal faculty.
I'm not going to be an apologie for
the liberals.
Let me teke you up on that. It
publishes your book, it makes movies
about you, its asked you on every
television show except possibly six
o'clock.
It goes to....
New look are you out to make serious
coin or are you just letting liberals
use you.
To let the liberals use me?
Youkenot? Don't think you....'
Which one? The Beatles? I know_John
and whats the other guy's name, I
never remember the other guy's name.
He's got a best selling book too,he
even sells more than this. But I
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1think that the awkward thing is that
they only define their politics in
terms of us not in terms of what
is going on in the country or what
is going on in terms of Washington
because really I don't have to because
this is the view that is held by the
people that arc in power.
No it isn't.
I'm sorry, you've got to read Vice
President Agneu's latest remarks.
Station Break!
Virgina and Abbie don't fight during
the commercials.
The one point 1 went to make is this,
I think it's clear that Mr. Hoffman
is agitating a kind of unintelligible!
there is nothing rational really if
you ask him what he wants from America,
its been characteristic of the SDS
for a long time, that they cannot be
responsive they have no responsive,
all they are interested in doing is
as I say, takirg their inhibitions
out on other people. However I address
myself particularly to people who are
applauding tonight. Mr. Hoffman may
strike you as clever or whatever, I
don't know. It seems to me that you '
ought to be or consider the fact
there wasznother age when people -- -
applauding the young because they seemed
to be groovy and with it and didn't .
have the courage to speak out against
them, and that was pre-war Germany.
Educators were just the way they are
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taking over schools and busting up
classrooms and meetings and not "
letting pcopje be heard. And the
educators dic not....
That's a lie.
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You have some information?
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saidthey had a right to use violence,
because it was the fascist who said
they used violence because they had
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whatWilliam Kunstler said.
unintelligible! fire babyi
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class that sympathizes with the SDSor the unintclligibleg its not in
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given a cradle or a philosophy
of life to live by. The point about
all of this is that there is going to
be revolution if we tolerate violence
and the likes of this. But it's not
going to be Abbie Hoffman, its....
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William Hunstlcr said not long ago
that a nob had stomped to death a
policeman in New Jersey and they had
every right to do it.because they
had e legitimate reason.
New look we went all through this on
the other show on the other network
and....
Kunstler just said that there was a
b1ack....if he believed in revolutionary
violence, maybe he would justify...
he just got four and half years for
contempt unintelligible! for trying
to defend .....
By the way the young are not being
applauded, you know their heads are
being shaved
You don't speak for the young, you
don't speak for the University, you.
Tell me, I want to say something.
when I heard that this group was
going to be on this show tonight I
begged to be excused because I feel
that we are degrading our country
by giving them air time.
What's this?
And I apologize.
I would like to say something...
I want to apologize, I was wrong,I
want to congratulate you because
how else could the world see a self-
potrait of such destructive idocy
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here, there's been alot of talk about
revolution, there's been alot of
talk about we're facing revolutions,
that we have to avoid one that it is
going to be violent and it hasn't
occurred to anyone that there is
going to be a revolution whether Abbie
Hoffman or whether....
It's going to be evolution.
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degenerate parents of these children
are so labeled,-are the ones that
are discovering cures for cancer,
for TB for muscular dystrophy for
cerehal palasy - they never cared
in all their lives for that stuff
we are the ones that are finding
the cure for it, while they are
tearing down the prisons, yes the
hospitals, the banks that gave up
the money to find the cure for
cancer they're bombing.
All right Virginia Graham discovered
the cure for cancer.
Virginia you......
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I'm for change'es much as anyone ,
else, I'm fo" changing society and "
achieving SO18 Lino cf'meaningfu1
social progress but you don't do
that by saying the system is rotten
and it happens to be the best one '
yet devised by man. _ ,
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Now I know the people from theSunintolligible! I did a story for
National Review" almost two years
ago, you're not in league with them.
with who? '
with you.
It's not an organi2ati0n....
You don't want to hear a rational
discussion, you 6~n't vent to beer
another oint of view resented all P _ P _ 3you want to do 15 turn this into
a police brawl.
Oh yeah, you've done most of the
talking, I've just been sitting
here nice.... unintel1igible!
I would just like to say that shirt,
just by the way a lot of people, ....
I know its going to sound like a cliche
to you and you're Just going to think
its a lot of unintelligible! but
believe it or not the reason you are
here tonight addressing millions of
people is because a lot of people
die for that flag and I think that....
I almost died for it trying to wear...
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He's going to jail for his be1iefs....
Not if I can help it.
I think that the vision that some
people have.....
When a democratic neans, then
violence is not justifie@....
When Go we reaeh that point, we '
reached that point in the summer or
August 1965 at the Democratic Con-
vention, that point was reached,
people trying to chenge.....
There's a whole line of statistics
about how the blaoks......
The immediate income of black eonle_ P 1in the last ten years in comparison
to whites has grown......
you want to go up to Herlem toDo , - .
make a point? Tonight? what are
you talking about?
Look don't use this demogoric technique
if you want to go to Harlem to talk
about it, you don't speak for the
blacks and youve never had.
1 didn't say that.....
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unintelligible! end can't stand
you.
You don't have to be black to
recognize racism in America, you
just have to be not blind.
And if you excuse everything, every
violent action on that basis.....
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this system in which unintelligible!
these young people in their beds is
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act to try and rerove and eliminate
that system....
It's people not system....
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All right in the balcony?
Abbie, will you be in Central Park
Sunday?
Right on brother. That's it! Well
if you're having an Easter conspirin
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non-believers in Central Perk and we
do have whole culture developing
which people at Fort Hill at Communal
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in the drunken orgy celled the Easter
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mink sweaters and say....
unintelligible! for Easter seals
for crippled children.
Every charity in America takes Q0
per cent off the top....
E¢0gnc...l nec appearances this
year what did you '0?
unintclligiblcg for cancer she is
running after 1 . e
Her many followers to you have
areund the country do you feel?
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You're the one saying that if you
have o grievance you can use violence,
your logic could justify the Klu Klan
you can use your logic to justify
the Basis or the fer rightist or
the far leftist. It's the some thing,
it's the law of the jungle, its
anarchy, its mob rule.....
The law of the jungle is calle
capitalism and.....
My God, you can't see nothing
rational about this?
P ? ?5 T'V5"? Hr fi lithe? King
was killed, and Lynon Johnson -
you remember him ~ he said that in
the memory of his n*me we should
he non-violent, well does that mean
that the President of the United
States is ' pooiiist? what does it
moon sit- in the Me Cong Delta?
You know US Marines are going
to sey the. we shell overcome? Eon-
violence means a different thing
its only what you tell different
people to struggle for their rights.
You tell them to stay in their cellars
and be cool, don't be violent and
be nice and stay in your place.
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perfect example of what I am talking
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saying that oh look black can't take
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toward: them and let them break the
law if they want.
Black peeple dent have to be told
to be active....
Ladies and gentlemen we have to go
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P~.nr the Students for a Democratic
Society 5:, as presently rcgerded, crme into being at a
founding convention held June, 1962, at Port Vuron, Michigan.
FY03 an initial posture oi "participatory democracy the line
or the national leadership has revealed 3 grouing Harxist»Leninist
adherence which currently calls for the building of a revolution-
ary youth movement. Concurrently, the program of SDS has evolved
ire: civil rights strugulcs to an &htisVietn3F war stance to an
advocacy 01 a militant anti-imperialist position. China, Vietnam
and Cuba are regarded as the lenders of worlduide struggles
against United States imperialism whereas tne Soviet Union is
held to be revisionist and also imperialist.
At the June, 1969, SDS National Convention, Progressive
Labor Party PLP! iorccs in the organization were expelled. As
a result, the National Oiiice K0! group maintained its National
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faction set up hesnqusxrers in Kawhridge, Massachusetts. This
headquarters subsequently moved to Boston. Each group elected
its own national oijiccrs, mhich include three national secretaries
and a National Interim Committee of eight. Both the N0 forces
and the PLP forces claim to be the true 598. Both groups also
print their versions of "New Left Notes" which sets forth the
line and the program of the particular faction. The NO version
of "Sew Left Notes" was recently printed under the title "The
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thursalvas Lu bs CQm3uniL1p and to fellow thv precepts of a
MarxistLeninist pkilcscphy, along proChincsc communist lines.
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which is mole cm pnnly kn¢»u as the worker Studnnt Alliance,
is dominttod and controlled by mcnbv
rcguirxd to idcntify thcrsclvcs with
Leniniat philccvphy of the PLP. The
between wcrkcrs EEC students is vita
a revolution in the United States.
SE3 rr ion; and nnivcrriiy
althourh upcrzri 1 under 1nc uutlinr
Constitution, n"w ;ni0n0¢uu: in nutu
idcuufnc gni1v§ iuflucaivc cf Iv;
of this autonomy irtcrnnl struggles
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since the bcinnig of the 1969-70 s
A characterization of the
28rs of tho PLP, whc arc
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1 to the bringing about of
and c031¢;c chcytcrs,
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The "New York Tires" city edition Tuesday, April 20
1955, Page 27, reported thri e new party of "revolutionnry
socialism" was Iornqlly foundcd on April 18, l?5, under the
name of the PLP, which had been hnovn as the Progressive
Labor Movement.
Accordim; to the article "The P.».'o;,;rcssi92'e Labor
the United States for asseitedly following the Chinese
Conmunist line."
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based on NarxiemLorinism. This is to-be ecco
the Party's overall revolttienary strategy oi r
consciousness of the people and helping to provide ideological'~'<
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3the PLPMovement was founded in 1962, by HlLTOh RUSEH and MORTIHER
SCHE£R after they were expelled from the Communist Party of
City, May 3
its objective
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icing the
leadershga in the working close struggle foi state power
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Convention, HILTC1 ROSES wen unanimouely re-ci
" EChairnrz-..'. 01 the T-31° and LE-.l L!?."LIJ-, 1-lR;_YI! J1-IHF-T-p
WILLIAM EPTON, JACUJ HOSKX, JEIFREY GCRDUF are
were elected as the National Committee to lend
the next convention.
The PLP publishes "Progressive Labor", R bimonthly92-0
magazine; "world Revolution", a quarterly periodical; and
"Cha11engeDesafio", a monthly newspaper,
' "'* -De afio',hThe April, l9o9, issue of "Chellenge s
sets forth that Challenge is dedicated to the peoples
fight for a new way of life-where the working men and women
control their own homes and factories: where they themselves
make up the entire government on every level and control
the schools, courts, police and all institutions which are
now used to control them."
ha'¢ we PLP '
Utilizes an addrees of GcnF?ET'P§T UTTTEe ox E08, Broollyn,
New York, and nluc utiliwec an office in Room G17, l Union
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BLACK PANTHER PARTY
Also Known As , _§lack,Bapthcr:Party for SelfDcfense -
. ' .According to its ofiicial newspaper, the Black
Panther Party BPP! was.started during December, 1966, in
-Oakland, California, to organize black people so_they can
take control of-the'life, politics and the destiny of the
black community...It'was organized by BOBBY SEALE, BPP -
Chairman, and HUEY P,.NEWTCN, BPP Minister.of Defense,-- .
NEWTON was sentenced in I968 to serve 2 to 15 years after
being convicted of manslaughter in connection with the ,
killing of an Oakland police officer. ' ' _ ' '
The official newspaper, "The BlackPnnther",-whi;h--
further describes itself as the "Black Community News Service"
states that the BPP advocates the use of guns and guerrilla
tactics in its revolutionary program to end oppression of the
black people. Residents of the black community are urged to
arm themselves against the police who are consistently
referred to in the publication as "pigs" who should be killed.
"The Black Panther" issue of September 7, 1968,
contains an editorial by BPP Minister of Education, GEORGE
MASON MURRAY, which ends with the following:
' Black men. Black people, colored persons of '
America, revolt everywhere! Arm yourselves. The only culture
worth keeping is.a revolutionary culture. Change. Freedom
everywhere. Dynamite! Black Power.-.Use the gun. Kill the
pigs everywhere.9_ _ _ . _ .
. ' i Included in the introduction to an article appearing
in the October 5, 1968, edition of "The Black Panther" is the
statement, "...we will not dissent from American Government.
We will overthrow it. "
Issues of "The Black Panther" regularly contain
quotations from the writings of Chairman HAO Tse-tung of the
People's Republic of China and feature HAO's statement.that
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University CSU! campus newspaper at Fort Collins,
Colorado, indicating that Hoffman is scheduled to
appear for a epeech at 3:66 P.H., April 7, 1976,
in the student center ballroom at CSU.
On April 7, 1970, a Special Agent of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation attended the above-
mentioned speech which was held as scheduled. This
speech was a series of disjointed statements by
Hoffman, obviously not well prepared and liberally
sprinkled with barnyard obscenities. A major partu
of his diatribe dealt with critical comments cen-
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Colorado. This source characterized Hoffman as a
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I'll have to apologize for not being stoned or having
a cold. here Hoffman pulls out replica of American flag which
is made like a handkerchief and blows his nose on it.! "It's
just old glory blowing in the wind.
"So getting out of Cook County Jail into the lower
middle security penitentiary we call the United States of America /is not such a good deal. They let us out on one condition--we're;
not ellowed to give eny seditious speeches. I hope everything I ,
say is seditious. I hope everything we do, live, breathe and eat'
obscene! and shoot is seditious because we find ourselves in a
state of war.
"If a lion and a sheep walk down to a water hole and
start drinking all of a sudden the lion turns on the sheep and
gobbles him all up, well there is a kind of peace but it's an
unsettled peace because that sheep is going to kick his obscene!
wish? innidn hi: hn11u--B-av -ssnauu--u use- w--.0-I
"Now the American pig empire wants to devour our new
youth nation.
"Up in Minnesota the local sheriff and his posse, they
go into communes, they have what they call head hunts. They take
some hippies, they put their hands on a table and they smash them
with a rifle butt. The hippie says, 'what'll we do about it, man,
they're doing their thing. Hhet? you_fight, you leern how to
survive and survival means fighting.
"Do they teach you about making bombs? Nope, boom.
well, you're going to ask about the bombings. What's this sound
going around. New York blew up an IBM office. You've seen one
you've seen them all. Bombings, pea shooters, plastic bombs.
Better living through chemistry. The Yippies believe in a viola-
wion of every law including the law of gravity. What goes up
eont necesserily heve to eome down. "
"He believe in banks. We invested in the Bank of
America, Santa Barbara. That paid off heavy.
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"He have to redefine the language and one of the words
we get to reorient ourselves to is the word violence. R -ye to
talk about institutional violence.
"we're just going to pull off and do our thing and the
card table, card house is going to come crumbling down. Uel1,I'll
tell you it's falling on our obscene! heads. We're like two
trains running and they were going full speed right in that court-
house; just like that on the same track. And I'll tell you if we
don't figure out how to derail that other obscene! train before
it's too late, it's going to take us with it. And I'll tell you
revolution is about life, it's not about dying. You don't die
for the revolution, you live for it.
"I said I want to confess because I felt the Government
was calling me an enemy of the state and I am an enemy of the state
"Everybody in the whole obscene!world saw what happened
in the streets of Chicago. Everybody knows what happened there.
Everybody knows Mayor Daley and his cohorts were responsible tor
that. There isn't a court in America where you could put that
pig on trial and you believe it. The only court in America that
you can put that pig on trial is in the streets and that's where
we're going to have our jury of the peers in the streets of this
country. It's going to be a long, hot summer if Bobby doesn't
get out; it's going to be a burning, obscene! fall and the whole;
winter is going to burn. Because he's not there, he's not there
because of some murder in New Haven; he's there because he's the
chairman of the Black Panther Party."
A characterization of the Black Panther
Party appears as an appendix hereto.
"He retired, we retired, we deserted, love it or leave
it, Ilbft, we left, stick those values because capitalism's got
to go and the protestant obscene! ethic has got to go too.
Postpone pleasure, put your money in the bank; your life ain't
worth anything unless you got a $50,000 life insurance policy..
shove it! We want it and we want it now; we're reasonable, wewant everything; we're rational, we want it now; we're responsible"
we're going to take it. |
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There is no way of changing it that way, there's only
changing it through our action in the streets and when you have
that situation the Government's going to move against you and it
is moving; it's moving culturally and it's moving politically and
I consider that a state of oppression.
"I know what the obscene! I'm doing cause I'm ripping
off the money from here see and that's going back to New York to
get Bobby Seale out of jail and to arm every obscene! hippie in
my area.
"Senator Bastland gets 3 million dollars a year to not
grow cotton, well shoot the obscene! if you agree, and we put in
his place cotton fie1ds..he'd make good manure.
"The university is a base for launching guerrilla
attacks, that's all it is; it ain't a obscene! place to get
an education; it ain't a place to get a degree. It's a place
where there are a mass of people and a place to launch a guerrilla
attack on an institution of America and use it as such and that's
it and that's all it's there for.
"You tell young kids we belong in another nation.
We ain't in this nation, we don't understand it. We got chromosome
damage; we never take baths; we're spaced-out freaks; we're freaks,
freaks, anything you want to call us--commies, pinkos, freaking,
obscene!, fag, hippie, revoluntaries, we don't give a obscene!.
Then they say why don't you salute the flag-it ain't my flag.
You tell that to a 7-year-old kid because they're going to make
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followin c , a ire occurre at an adjacent CSU
veterinary school where a haystack and an adjoining building
° ly $350.00 damage before being extinguished.
that he believed the fire to be arson and
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the cause of the fire at CSU on Apr 7, 1970, and, further,
that no trace of arson could be found
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BLACK PANTHER PARTY,
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Black Panthgr Party_for_Self¢Qefense
According to its official newspaper, the Black Panther
Party BPP! was started during December, 1956, in Oakland,
California, to organize black people so they can take control of
the life, politics and the destiny of the black community. It
was organized by Bobby Scale, BPP Chairman, and Huey P. Newton,
BPP Minister of Defense. Newton was sentenced in 1958 to serve
2 to 15 years after being convicted of manslaughter in connection
with the killing of an Oakland police officer.
The official newspaper. "The Black Panther," which
further describes itself as the "Black Com"" i*V NPWQ Bervice,"
states that the BPP advocates the use of guns and guerrilla
tactics in its revolutionary program to end oppression of the
black people. Residents of the black community are urged to arm
themselves against the police who are consistently referred to
in the publication as "pigs" who should be killed.
"The Black Panther" issue of September 7. 1968,
contains an editorial by BPP Minister of Education, George Mason
Hurray, which ends with the following:
"Black men. Black people, colored persons of America,
revolt everywhere? Arm yourselves. The only culture wortn Keep-
ing is a revolutionary culture. Change. Freedom everywhere.
Dynamite! Black Power. Use the gun. Kill the pigs everywhere
Included in the introduction to an article appearing
in the October 5, 1968, edition of "The Black Panther" is the
statement "...we will not dissent from American Government. We
will overthrow it."
.Issues of The Black Panther" regularly contain
quotations from the writings of Chairman Mao Tse-tung of the
People's Republic of China and feature Mao's statement that
"political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
The national headquarters of the BPP is located at
3106 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley, California. Branches have been
established at various locations throughout the United States.
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WASHINGTON, MAY 23 - 24, 1970, INFORMATION CONCERNING".
Enclosed for the Bureau are seven copies of an LHM
which reflects travel on the part of HOFFMAN May 24, 1970,
and his failure to advise U,S. Marshal, Chicago, of this
travel, as ordered February 28, 1970, when released on
bond at order of U.S. Court of Appeals, Chicago.
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Bobby Seale Day, and Seattle Rock Concert for The
Seattle Eight, Seattle, Washington, May 23 - 24, 1970,
Information Concerning .
This Seattle memorandum reflects the appearance
of Hoffman as a speaker, May 24, 1970, on the University
of Washington Campus in Seattle, at the above rock concert
It might be noted that Hoffman was convicted in
a jury trial in Chicago in February, 1970, of violation
of the Federal Antiriot Law Statute, and was also cited by
U.S. District Court Judge Julius J. Hoffman for contempt
of court in February, 1970, as a result of his statements
and activities during this so-called "Conspiracy Trial".
Hoffman was ordered committed to jail without bond by
Judge Hoffman.
0n February 28, 1970, the U.S. Seventh Circuit
Court of Appeals ordered Hoffman admitted to bond with
one of the provisions of this bond being that he advise
the U.S. Marshal, Chicago, of all travel outside the
state of his residence New York!. V
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nor conclusions of the Federal Bureau of investi-
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Chicago, advised that there was no record in
of the office of the U.S. Marshal, Chicago, reflecting
a travel itinerary from Hoffman indicating travel to the
State of Washington, on May 24, 1970.
Fvised the U.S. Marshal, Chicago, on
May 14, 1 , had received an itinerary from Hoffman
reflecting that on May 23, 1970, he would travel to
Washington, D.C., for a 'speech"and that he would be
returning to New York City on May 24, 1970.
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"OK. Did everybody find their way in who was outside?
Cause they ought to coe in. I mean, its some kind of fuckin
law that they can't, but you know. There are 2,750,000 laws in
the country, maybe we'll break a few.
"Hind i I take my jacket off?
"I'll have to apologize for not being stoned or having
a cold." Here Hoffman pulls out replica of American flag which
is made like a handkerchief and blows his nose on it.! "It's
just old glory blowing in the wind.
"Hy name's Abbie and I'm from Muskogee, Oklahoma.
Everybody here is from it cause there ain't nobody left there
anymore--everybody ran away. But it's good to cone up and sing
to the inmates of Colorado State Penitentiary. Hell, uh, partner
in crime Johnny Cash is gonna be around while singing to you
inmates too. Nell, it is in a way. It's just a low minimum
security penitentiary as compared to, say, Cook County Jail or the
other jails or penitentiaries, Folsom Prison, those kinds of places
So getting out of Cook County Jail into the low minimum security
penitentiary we call the United States of America is not such a
good deal. They let us out on one condition--we're not allowed to
give any seditious speeches. Seditious speeches are going to be
defined by the present regime sitting in Washington, President
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"Agnew and General Mitchell: regime. So I just carry around
a toothbrush every place I go, just in case I end up back there.
Cause I hope everything I say is seditious! I hope everything
we do, live, breathe and eat, fuck and shoot is seditious because
we find ourselves in a state of war. Now I know a lot of my
hippie brothers and sisters are gonna say Hey, man, you're
using the same techniques as they; you know, like indistinct!
indistinct! you gotta have peace. §;I1:'L;}§§;;tQ}Ls»a;, --
'cause there's lots of different kinds of peace.
"If a lion and a sheep walk down to a Hater hole and
start drinking, all of a sudden the lion turns on the sheep and
gobbles him all up, well there is a kind of peace but it's an
unsettled peace because that sheep is going to kick his fuckin
ass right inside his belly. United States lion makes up one-
sixteenth of the world population. It Owns or controls fifty-
five percent of the world's natural resources. That's called
imperialism. You don't have to be a heavy Marxist fuckin scholar,
you know an LLTD and PhD's and all that, to understand that that
ain't a fair deal for most of the world. We'll have peace.
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"who don't know, he was a prospector and he had four or five
buddies and they went up into the mine around these parts to
prospect and he came out licking his chops. He's the only guy
ever executed for cannibalism in America. Cannibalism, well
it's not the worst of all deals; I mean, like, if you had
compulsory cannibalism and people were forced to eat what they
kill, the world would be a lot better off. But seeing as how we
don't have it, maybe we ought to get into some cannibalism.
It's a question of who eats who first. Are we gonna participate
in America's children for breakfast program, cause that's what's
going on. It: the signs of a dying, decaying empire. It
happened in Babylonia when Nebuchadnezzar, the Richard Nixon of
his day, you know, as his last dying act said to all the, to all
the old parents lying around that were having problems with their
kids running out and sneaking pot while the old lady was down at
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"hands on a table and they smash them with a rifle butt.
The hippie says, 'Whatl1 we do about it, man, they're doing
their thing. Said, What? You fight! You learn how to
survive, and survival means fighting!
"In Chicago, when we were on trial, and everybody
else who was there was on trial, there maybe six, seven thousand
young people would come through, stand in line twelve hours
inside the Federal Building designed by Hr. Hies van der Rohe;
Judge, uh, whatever his name was, I forget it, Uhat was his last
name? I forget. Forget, uh? I knew his first name was Fuck."
Laughter and clapping! _"Well, wait till he sees the dirty dozen
Weathermen, if they find them." Laughter!
"Although, I think we ought to have a hand for
Bernardine Dohrn, who's here tonight." Clapping! "Bernardine?"
"Julius used to always remind us, say Mr. Kunstler.'
He talked like that actually, You gonna hear it because we swiped
the tapes. It's unbelievable, four hundred hours. And thereli
gonna be a record of the original cast album coming out in about
four weeks." Laughter! "So, uh, you'll be able to hear the '
actual voices as it happened. If it does real well we'll just keep
putting them out and there'll be some stoned freaks that are gonna»
you know, spend the next five and a half months just like turning
on to the trial." Laughter! "And there's old Julius, Hr.
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"Kunstler, if ies van der Rohe, the world: foremost architect,
wanted that lectern to be a leaning post, he would have designed
it that way. Hies van der Rohe, pig eye, a Kraut, designed a
stainless steel cuckoo nest in downtown Chicago for President
Johnson: big art program--kill them. He died anyway, right
after the fuckin building. They were supposed to bu '*
first one hilled them and now they ju§3mgot an_egpty_aand lot g,
across the street in downtown Chicago.
"But anyway, young people representing forces of life
would stand in line twelve - fourteen hours next to that stainless
steel cuckoo nest and line up. And the Chicago Police Department
would come by, Neanderthals would stomp out of their automobiles
and they'd ask all the kids for ID's, because in Chicago if you're
under eighteen, you're on the streets, you are an outlaw--you're
automatically an outlaw. You watch the boob tube there and every
night on the television screen in Chicago you see right down on
the bottom where they announce heavy shit like Tidal wave rips
Chicago, California, and shit like that--President Assassinated,'
you know, like heavy stuff. It lays, It's now 10:30 p.m. Curfew
is in effect. If you are 18 or younger you must be off the streets
"And that's what's going on. Rock music is already
like banned in four states. Two hundred fifty thousand narcotics
arrests last year! Marijuana! Operation Intercept. You see that
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Kraut, Herr Kleindienst, of the Justice Department, the picture
of him in the paper warming his hands down in Mexico over a
pot burning like it were books? We read plants, we don't read
books! Clapping! "They can burn the fuckin books, that's 0.K.
Fuckin country going to war against the invasion of a plant!"
Laughter and clapping!
Hell, you uould know about it up here because I've
seen some recent haircuts in the audience. So that war: going
on right here, in Fort Collins. Fort--oh, they had to build a
fort, right? It was to slaughter the Indians, is that right?
Is that what the Fort is, the Fort Collins?" Audience replies
"Yeah."! "Yeah. Camp Collins? High Camp, right. Concentration
camp. Hel1...where the war's gone out.
"How many people know where Tim 0'Leary is, right now?
You know that? A lot of people, like, didn't. He's got twenty
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"prison--it's sorta weird, you know, like standing in the
middle of this fuckin country and the CIA is on one side and
HGH is on the other and everybody is bidding for your fuckin
scalp--sometimes
come not so much
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say it's Chicagoyou get the feeling that the revolution will
by popular will as by popular demand." Laughter!
Bobby Seale--we get kind of uptight when people
Seven because even though Julius axed Bobby in
the middle of the trial for what the press commonly terms antics,
it's the first time demanding the right to have a lawyer of your
choice and then when that's denied demanding the right to defend
yourself has ever been termed an antic in this country--an antic
punishable by four years in prison. We're still the Chicago
Bight, in fact we're the Chicago Ten cause the two lawyers;
we're the Chicago Ten Million because a lot of people consider
themselves part of the conspiracy." Light clapping!
"Well, they're trying to send Bobby Seale into the
electric chair in a place called New Haven, Connecticut--one of
the enlightened intellectual centers of the liberal East. They
have a university up there, just like this. It's not an irrational
unreasonable antic-type place. It's run by reasonable men,
rational men, nonviolent men--call themselves the Board of Trustees
I think it's about the twelfth largest corporation in America, Yale
is. In fact, New Haven is nothing but a ghetto and Yale
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"University--we're gonna put some pressure on Yale University.
Announcing here tonight for the first time, that the conspiracy
is moving to New Haven, Connecticut--Bobby Seale trial--all of
us are moving up there. We aim to mobilize local conspiracy
groups all over this country to see that they never never put
Bobby Seale in the electric chair!" Cheering and clapping!
"He pledged ourselves last night to raise a hundred grand for his
defense and to raise a lot more ru¢xi§q§§I§ §k*§§5£7£ get 3 iair
trial. nd a lot of hell? The Yippies--like I said before,
there are 2,7§0,000 laws in America, all kinds. '
"You see on that Merv show, how many saw that electronic
fascism? Did you see it in blue or black? Blue? Blue--you
gotta get color for that. To show you, the New York Times said
I was blacked out, which shows where their head is, you know.
Cause blue, it was. They called ae up about two hours before it
went on." Hockingly! "'Hell, the Board of CBS just met and we're
going to electronically mask out your shirt with an electronic
masking device never before used in television history." Laughteri
"Hell, I said See you later, I gotta watch this.' Laughter!
"I had images of just a couple of hands and a head, you know, like
bobbing around like the invisible llh sort of thing. But no, in
New York just before that pig, Robert Hood, President of CBS, came
on and made his little announcement, they had a commercial with a
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'®uy in an Uncle Sam suit simonizing
then he comes on and says, '!ell one
coming on with a flag shirt and even!
General Motors car. And
of our next guests is
he says that it's a bit
illegal,so not to participate in a crime and yet to allow his
say--you gotta have free speech--you're going to see him
behind a blue shield. On it came and I debated with Virginia
Grahamcracker what's-her-name--one of America: last dinosaurs
Laughter! "But actually, I guess it proved its point because
it was sort of awkward, it was so hysterical their saying You
can say anything you want, you know, and here blue talks back
Here Hoffman imitates electronic blipping sound!. CE§ is a
bunch of blue meanies. Somebody ought to punch them right in their
one fuckin eye." Laughter and clapping!
"But...well...you gotta learn how to relate to TV.
TV's like part of our real world, an electronic jungley and if
you haven't got two - three hundred thousand dollars to do those
stupid, idiotic commercials you gotta devise new ways--ways like
the Vietcong. The Vietcong don't sit and bitch cause they don't
have any B52 bombers. They get a fuckin hunk of bamboo, they
carve the end, they make the end of it into a point, they put some
shit on it, they put it in a fuckin hole, and some U. S. military
machine comes by and just goes ant: They're fightin' dirty! Dirty
fighters! That's what they said about us in the court--fightin'
dirty!
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"I'm up from Concord, Massachusetts. Up there about
200 years ago they had a battle. Standing on the bridge, and
Paul Revere's long hair flying in the breeze came riding up in
his motorcycle and said The pigs are coming, the pigs are coming
Get your gun. Everybody said OK. They ran home and got their
gun. Sure enough there they came with their pepper gas tanks and
bouncing Betsies and stainless steel helmets--gold, just like the
ones they used around here. I saw a picture of like one of the
local pigs. You wanna hear something about..." Whistling and
clapping from crowd! "You think you ain't at war? You think you
ain't at war, dig this. The following notes were taken at a
meeting of the Larimer County Sheriff's Department Riot Control
Squad during the week of March 30th to April 30th." Pause!
"OK." Reading rapidly! "Forty-man riot control organization,
city cops not included, they have own riot control squad. Forty
men included mounted patrol, sheriff: officers and students.
The basic unit of four ten-man squads, each with a squad leader,
two arresting officers and eight linemen. Theres a special..."
Laughter! "That's a, see they, ah, they didn't do too well at
their recent-basketball game here so they had to>go~and~pull!.
some linemen. Clapping! "There's a special fifth unit that is
responsible for gas, etcetera. Fuck their gas--it gets you high.
Laughter! "You tell them that! Puckin tear gas a new drug."
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Continuing reading! "Usually there are two units on the line
and two in reserve. This organization is based on maintaining
control of crowd indistinct!...tactics to be used are hurt! but
don't hurt so it can be seen. Hit at shoulders, groin, mid-
body, pressure points, also break bones and arms, then hit a man
to make him fall--then leave him for arresting officers. Tuo _
basic ideas of confrontation--one, hit to induce as much pain as
possible; two, always look military, look disciplined. Reason
is to induce fear into the crowd. Use clubs as staffs holding
them at both ends. Hit and push.
"The above are exact quotes of notes taken at the Riot
Control Squad training meeting. Not one word has been added or
deleted. You ain't at war, huh?
You wanna see their first basic formation?" Laughter!
The Broncos didn't do too good with this. Now and there's a
little end sweep." Laughter! "But these formations, see, you
just get into survival and you know that every fuckin cop in the
country has memorized that riot formation. Because there is only
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there's only one formation the cops can use and one lineup.
all you gotta do to find out all about it is to send away to
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what it's called. I read about it in some fuckin book, I
can't mention the name of the book because while I was in jail
the publishers, who claim themselves to be the most liberal in
the country, indistinct! from the back of the book the greatest
line in American literature which said Steal this book, and I
just fuckin looked at the book when I got out of jail and it was
like fuckin naked, just like where did it go? I indistinct!
and they said Well, ah, we believe in free speech but you know
the book dealers are complaining and shit like that, so the name
has been changed to Steal This Book. So I won't mention it,
but in there anyway if you got a copy you can find out where to
send, what kind of pamphlets to order from the U. S. Government
Printing Office, especially if you're interested in survival and
destruction cause they're fuckin
called 'Combatives you can learn
seconds by pulling his tongue out
you don't learn that here, right?pro's at it. You get a book
how to kill a guy in thirty
and twisting his nose. I mean,
They don't teach you that.
They teach you about making bombs? Nope, boom. Well, you're
going to ask about the bombings.
New York blew up an IBM office. You've seen one, you've seen themWhat's this sound going around.
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"Bombings, pea shooters, plastic bombs. Better living through
chemistry. The Yippies believe in a violation of every law
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cost a hundred thousand trees in
mines around this area and cement
factories and public utilities--what's the local pollutant
puts on the lights here? The public servants, yeah. The public
servants like banks and electric light companies and insurance
companies--did you ever see their ads? Like they're doing you a
great service, man. Ever see
lucky this bank is here. Hela bank? You're lucky! You're
1 we believe in banks; we invested
in the Bank of America, Santa Barbara. They're paid off heavy.
It's those corporations that are responsible for all the piss
' and all the shit that's out in the that's floating in the rivers
ocean. Well we gotta have oi 1. Why not? American §tandard Gil,
Standard Oil Company of America is, has a larger budget than about
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"know, and that's just about dying too. Pretty soon they're
going to have a fuck-in on CBS. But we have to redefine the
language and one of the words we got to re-orient ourselves to is
the word violence. He have to talk about institutional violence.
He have to talk about a system you see where rats, where I live
on the lower East Side rats eat kids--that's violent! And the
slum landlords that own those fuckin buildings are violent,
violent people. But you don't see th;¥T"f5e55§6u1bok 65' -
TV, I was watching it last week. General Custer from West
Point, you know, a guy like covering up the Song Hai phonetic!
thing. Can't help relating to it like that. I saw that Captain
Medina the next night. You know, he got on and said, Well I
know that a hundred and eighty people were getting massacred
down the road, it wasn't my fault and everything. And now they
switched back and it's ABC TV and they switched back to Roger
Hunday and he said Well, that about wraps it up at Song Mai.
And he smiles. Said, what is he talking about? And then comes
General Custer. General Custer covered up for a year and a half.
Covered up the massacre, and you look at him--gray hair, dis-
tinguished, horn-rimmed glasses--he didn't even look like a
right-winger. He looked like the Dean of this university. You
know, you mt him--Chuck. Chuck, he puts his arm around you,
Dean...'I don't agree with all your goals, I mean I do agree with
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" your goals but some of your methods bring up question, you
know, but we're with you all the way. All the way to graduate
school!
"But these things take time. The head dean, you ever
see him? Eric Sevareid. You see him on TV he's like a book.
You look at Eric Sevareid as a bank of knowledge, right there.
Hockinglyl "These are perplexing problems that face contemporary
American living and there are people dealing with them. Respon-
sible people, rational people, reasonable people dealing with the
problems--like General Custer, see. And the trustees of this
university. And General Mitchell. They're at war.
"You know what that trial in Chicago was about? If
you do you're better than I do cause I was_there five and a half
months, I couldn't figure out what the fucker was about. I sat
up at the end, you know, finally when we were all sentenced and
everything, we'd been waiting a long time cause I just couldn't
wait for the judge to say Well, son, do you have any last words
before sentence is passed? I had heard that that was going to
happen. so we're dragged out of Cook County Jail and brought
into the room that we had come to know and love so much, the neon
oven. Judge kicked out all public, all our friends and family.
Said, Hell, I have to throw out the family, one of the defendant
wives threatened to kill me. So Kunstler says, Hell, did_you
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the judge was beyond the generation gap, way beyond. He was
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"streets of Chicago? Is your old man a police captain? Hell
it wouldn't be old man because the median age of the jury was
52 except for one 23-year-old, Kay Richards, CIA agent, Benedict
Arnold of our generation. I have to tell you, did you read her...
was her life story around this way? Does anybody know who I'm
talking about? Have they seen her? She has two agents now. She's
made $100,000 so far on the trial. Has~anybody~seen her? -Ah,- -
she's out of...she opens up...she has a book coming out in about
four weeks. She says, her opening line is I convicted Abbie
Hoffman, now I want to read his books. She said sending us all
to prison was the most liberating act of her life. Now she wants
to experience a new life style and all, you know. Well, a hundred
grand will help and her CIA connections. She was, ah...
Tell you a bit about the jury decision because,
because at the end of the trial the prosecutor, Hr. Foran phonetic
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the Government, Hr. Poran said 'He've won cause we've finished the
trial. That was their, it's like an anal compulsive thing
about him; you've got to, you're not through till you're wiped,
you know. So, they got to the end. How if we wanted to disrupt
that fuckin trial, if we wanted to bring that to an end, we
could have done it on the opening day. There were eight mean
motherfucking cats in that room. We could have stopped that
fuckin trial dead cold. He didn't have to go through the agony
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of preparing the kind of defense that would last 25-3 months
at e eost of like a quarter oi e eillion dollars, you knee, and
tremendous agony and taxing on terms of the witnesses and getting
it all together trying to defend ourselves against a crime that
we didn't understand even the nature of it. This was the first
law that the Federal Government ever passed legislating against
a state of mind. We were charged with conspiracy to cross state
lines with the intention to incite a riot. With the intention!
A riot is defined by an act or a threat of violence by one or
more people in a crowd of three or more. A conspiracy is defined
as an overt conspiracy of the mind, so the people would never have
to meet, which in fact many of us hadn't done. We hadda be intro-
duced the first day of the trial! So a lotta people have a highly
misconceived notion what the trial was about. I was a witness
in the trial. Two books that I wrote were used as evidence against
me. That's the first time that books have ever been used against
a defendant in America except for like an obscenity trial, which
this probably was because our language was on trial. Every, uh...
fuck, fuck was four years man. Come out in the testimony and the,
uh, you know the jurors from white, from suburbs, you know, old
ladies who like to watch soap operas. I mean, who the fuck else
gonna sit on a jury? I mean, first of all, they only choose from
the voter registration list. You know, that eliminates H5 percent
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can't vote cause I'm a felon. Now the judge---" shouting in
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voters list and there's a room filled up like this, about 1500
people in there, prospective jurors. And the judge says, I'll
ask you only one question. Can you be fair? So at that about
a third of the people got up and walked out. And they walked out,
they said, because the judge who had just read the indictment as
if he was sending us to the gas chamber. He has this way of like
reading in tonal qualities that you'll hear when the record comes
out, but it's not apparent on the transcript. And he starts off,
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motions was, Hey, judge, the Government has just admitted that
it wire taps our phones. Uh, seems to be a fourth amendment to
the Constitution says that that's an invasion of privacy and the
Supreme Court just ruled that that's kind of illegal and stuff.
We'll get to it later, said Julie, after we get um. We'll
have a hearing later on. So we're gonna do this like whole
fantastic trial, you know it cost like two and a half million
dollars-by the way, we...the judge's final bit was to assess the
defendants with the cost of the whole trial. Kind of another
thing unprecedented in the Federal court system. But after that,
then he's going to have a hearing on the wire tapping. He locked
up four of the lawyers, unprecedented. And so, the days just kept
wearing on. On and on like that. Want a six-week delay says
Bobby Seale so my attorney, Charles Gary phonetic!, can come in
and defend me. He's my lawyer. He's my lawyer of record, I want
him here. He's in the hospital. We need a six-week delay. Now
anybody here who: been in trial knows that they can get a delay.
I have kl fuokin trials. It's always delayed. Does anybody here,
like you want a delay? In fact, the judge refused Bobby Seale that
delay. Right after our trial was over there was another case, the
next case on his calendar. And the lawyer came up and said, I'd
like a six-week -- the same time -- I'd like a sixeweek delay to
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it. Just like that! But he wouldn't grant a six-week delay in
our trial. And probably the whole history of the trial, the
whole history of the American judicial system probably would be
different if he had granted that delay.
"Bobby Seale says, I want to defend myself. The
first tine any of us epoke! Julius looked over like that--he
had two sets of glasses, one for us and one for the rest of the
room. He puts on his glasses. What is that? The lawyer says
Hell, that was one of the defendants. A what? A defendant.
Defendant! Never in my fifty years on the bench have I ever had
a defendant speak out in my courtroom. The defendant is a piece
of shit! He didn't say that." Laughter! "But that's his
attitude on defendants like us.
"Julius the multimillionaire. His wife sits on the
board oi Brunewiek Corporation, which nakes bowling belle end
machine guns used in Vietnam. War stock! Millionaire made out
of war stock. Lives in the Drake Tower Hotel, the gold coast of!
California in Chicago. He eats at the Standard Club, the most
exclusive club in! Chicago. He and Jerry went over to eat there.
That was a scene. You had a suit and tie bit, you know, so we had
to send out and get a special tailor. We come in and old Julius
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anybody gone to Chicago to see him? No? You probably couldn't
have gotten in. It was very hard getting in. This was the only
courtroom in history where you were searched for hair at the door
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his table and pick it up and put it behind the counter cause...
he probably took a bath right after. That was the relationship
we had with the judge.
"Hell, so the Government finished the trial. We've
finished! We've won! The American jury system has been vindicated
"Hell, aside from all the selection, you know, that I
just described, let's look at the jury system a little more, a jury
of our peers. When they got in the room--don't forget, they had
been sorta jailed for about five and a half months themselves in
the Palmer House Hotel, one of the more plush penitentiaries in
Chicago. You're not allowed to watch television, read newspapers--
he'd repeat it every single day, five times s day. You're not
allowed to watch television or read newspapers or read books or
watch movies or...they couldn't, they couldn't see like any movies
like related to youth culture or anything like that. They could
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against us only three of which were not undercover agents or police
They only had like three people with all that happened in the
streets of Chicago, you know, with the whole world watching they
could only find three people, you know, who would testify that
they saw any demonstrators commit any acts of violence. All the
rest were undercover*agentsl Their testimony was sort of like this
Hell, I met defendant_Rubin in the park and I got up real close
to him and I said come over here and he came over, we went off in
the alley and I said what you gonna do? and he said well, we're
going to invade the Conrad Hilton, we're going to make all these
weapons, beat the shit out of the police, we're going to assassi-
nate Hayor Daley, and everything. This is after like two minutes
of introduction. Indistinct! Jerry
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walk up to this...you know,
you know. They look like
a grade "B" Hollywood movie, you know, about high schools. Did
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know, the girl's brushing her lipstick, you know, and worrying
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indistinct! seen you. Hell,look at that ?! and they say
so the jury system.
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before they even got in the jury box. They get into the room
and the first thing, according to Kay Richards, is that two of
the jurors said we should be shot._ Shot! So one of the liberals-
there were four liberals thatthought we were innocent of all
charges and still to this very day think that_we are innocent--
they said well, why? And they said, well, they're disrespectful
to the judge--so they're guilty. Third woman on the jury said,
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here to watch me and they wouldn't come if a Black Panther was
here talking about Bobby Seale's trial. Because, because it was
a liberal trial. Freedom of speech. It was a trial of our
innocence, a year and a half ago. What was your state of mind
on August 23d of 1968? Sitting on the stands indistinct!
Dick Schultz, Government plotter."
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someone in the audience, thc nature of which is indistinct.
Hoffman continues...!
"Just cause the, just cause the prosecutor in his
first speech after the trial said that we were part of the freak-
ing fag revolution, don't get any ideas about the asshole."
Light clapping!
"Hell, as getting back to the jury, Miss Kay Richards,
Miss Kay Richards was the only one on the jury that was allowed to
have a private room. Hiss Kay Richards was the only one that was
allowed to make unmonitored calls. Miss Kay Richards, just before
she negotiated this treaty in which the liberals sell out their
conscience and said well, the law's unconstitutional, we'll leave
it up to the higher courts, we'll wash our hands of the b1ood--
just before she worked out this agreement, she worked out another
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that was cool. Soon as the jury decision was in, eleven of the
jurors went back to the Palmer House Hotel to get their belongings
and Miss Kay Richards was driven to another hotel at which for
five straight days she gave her whole testimony about what went
on in the jury room. It was syndicated in 300 newspapers around
country. - -
she's on television shows all around America. hiss Kay Richards,
just like us. Hiss Kay Richards says that it was interesting
serving on the jury--it was the first time she'd met a Negro."
Laughter from the audience, and someone asked "What's that?"
Hoffman continues.! "I don't know, ask her.
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"And I'll tell you revolution is about life. It's not about
dying. You don't die for the revolution, you live for it.
Indistinct! says the revolution will not come because of
sacrifice but through joy. Hell, that has to be redefined
because the word joy, the word joy is just a liquid soap, ain't
it? Ain't that joy? I mean, don't you have those kind of
problems with the language. Life--ain't that a magazine? That's
life! Magazine--I got it, it's fifty cents, right. See the
newsstand. Saw it the other day, Charlie Hanson...picture...did
you see it? You look at his eyes? Puckin kids went, when! He
hypnotized me, I don't know, I stabbed my old lady. Indistinct!
Life versus death. Come there, you look over the
Government table. There they sat the prosecutors, hard plotters.
The evidence! Consider the evidence! These men are evil men,
dangerous men, we must lock them up. One of the mmbers of the
Government table was FBI Agent, Hr. Stanley. He just sat there
patting ?! his gun. He couldn't figure out why the Government
was putting up with all this shit, we should of been shot the
first fuckin day and gotten it over with." Indistinct - Hoffman
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I sorry indistinct! women for using that term. Smile. It's
not a, the judge always did that. If a woman was selected for .
the jury he would say, what's your name? What's your husband:
occupation? That was his second question. Oh, I'm a widow.
No matter who came on the stand, Hr. Stanley from the FBI got
out his key and went down to the fifteenth floor; and there he
put in a teletype to Washington. Ana;§¥§I§'}{§§:*§e§;n -_eight
minutes he'd be back into the room. he'd have a little brown
folder, and it ?! spread out on the table, and we'd all point
and go, see. See him go. See him come back. See, see Hr.
Stanley sit down. See him open the brown indistinct! folder.
See him check out all the credentials of the witness. See
fascism! That's what we'd say. You.say, well what you talking
about? The FBI! The FBI hit on three out of four!
"Well, the last day of the trial when we were allowed
our free speech without our friends, without our wives, it felt
real gOOd being with my brothers there sitting around the ggble.
First time I ever felt part of a conspiracy, ever. You look at
us, you look at that table, you say they couldn't fuckin agree
on having lunch! What does the Government mean, conspiracy?
A pacifist, Black Panther, Yippie, second Yippie, head of SDS.
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"Hayden's the head of SDS. SDS didn't even exist by this
time but he was still the head of SDS. And a professor, one
chemist -- you gotta have a chemist. Glad the Government
recognized that. And on that last day we felt part of a con-
spiracy. It was great. Everybody got up and spoke in their own
way. I spoke in my way. I said to Tom, I said, I gonna make the
fucker laugh. Tom bet me." Laughter! "He owes me the bread
cause I made Julius laugh. Say it was funny? But it wasn't
funny being in Cook County Jail...when I showed him all my bites,
bedbug bites, and spoke about living in a five by eight cell
and being in a society which is ninety percent black after you
come out of society that's ninety percent white. You want to
understand about racism in America, you go look in the jail."
Clapping and whistling! "And you want to find out about
preventive detention you go look in the jail right now cause
75 - 80% of the people in jail they haven't even had a trial yet.
There are guys been in there a year, two years, without a trial.
We bailed out sixteen guys when we came out cause we thought we
were getting bailed out just cause we was celebrities and we had
lived with these guys for like two weeks, and we said we're getting
some guys out. We're going to get lots of guys out. We ain't
going to rest until every day is Bastille Day. For what goes on "
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door and that's it. And they don't see the fuckin life that
you live in jail. Especially a jail like Cook County Jail.
I spoke about that. Said it weren't funny. And I said
judge, I said from the day I was indicted right up until now
I always wanted to confess. Because, uh, I didn't necessarily
understand the charge, I read the law and didn't understand
that, and you ought to read it, this is Strom Thurmond's Civil
Rights Act. That's how it's like in 198k. You get sent to
prison under a civil rights act. Remember that. 1 said, l
want to confess because I felt the Government was calling me
an enemy of the state--and I am an enemy of the state. And if
they'd just said that--they said something heavy like treason,
like, said, you're a man without a country, we're going to exile
you on a boat and float you around like a man without a country,
Phillip Nolan, whatever happened to that like good stuff? You
know. They don't do that anymore--exile.
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You read it? Look it up. See if you can figure it out. You
gotta be Julius to figure it out, the method. We do have
contempt for that system. Laws that put us on trial. Laws
that instrument whereby people in power maintain tneir power.
That's what the fuck law is. Whether it's a law by wearing a
flag shirt or blowing your nose in the flag. Hey dig it, I wore
that flag shirt because two weeks b¢r6¥¬¥;ba¥*£§'¢&1iur= £¢rb=s,
Roy Rogers and Miss Dale Evans, wore the same fuckin shirt on ABC
Playhouse Theater and I wore the same shirt. I got blacked out
and they didn't. And the head of CBS said we know about that.
it's not what they wear, it's whois doing the wearing. If Hayor
Daley wore the shirt it would have been perfectly all right.
So says the Public Relations Director of CBS Television. Fifty
people have been arrested under that law. They're all hippies.
But whether you wear a flag shirt, whether you smoke pot, whether
you cross state lines to incite riot--it doesn't matter. It's
people in power protecting their power.
"Everybody in the whole fuckin world saw what happened
in the streets of Chicago. Everybody knows
Everybody knows Mayor Daley and his oohorts
that. There isn't a court in America where
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the peers--in the streets in this country. It's going to be a
long, hot summer if Bobby doesn't get out! It's going to be s
burning fuckin fall and the whole winter is going to burn!
Because he's not there, he's not there because of some murder
in New Haven; he's there because he's the chairman of the Black
Panther Party. in the same way that Tim O'Leary isn't serving
twenty years in prison, you know, because he possesses marijuana,
which e third of the fuekin people right in this room got on
them right now, you know. He's there, he's there because he's,
he's a home wrecker, that's what the fuck Tim O'Leary is. And
any straight Lefties that don't understand that, they should have
seen when he walked in that fuckin jury room, in that courtroom
to be a defense witness for us. And that fuckin jury took one
look at him, they knew he was a fuckin home wrecker. They knew
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defend this, and attack this farmer -- blah! I don't even under-
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"motherfuckin planet and be free and participate in tne good
life. Not for just a few select people, like the pigs that run
this university or the pigs that run the Army or sit in Washington
or run the corporations. We want it for everybody. He want the
new nation for everyone in the world. And it can be donel Right
in this university! I bet the universities, they say well, uh,
well we can build a better mouse trap. They're universities,
they can build better mice. There's some heavy shit going on.
Ninety percent of the scientists that ever lived arealive right
now today, did you know that? That's an amazing statistic.
They're alive right now today. They got machines that make fifty
billion hotdogs. We can go to the moon. We can do anything!
He will not accept the cynicism thats pushed down us by the
heroine pushers called teachers in this fuckin university. He
will not accept that cynicism. That's what American education
teaches everybody--be cynical. Hell these are complex things,
there are sides to both questions, men several words indistinct!.
ah, you can't fuck around now, save it for later when you retire.
Bullshit! We retired, we retired, we deserted, love it or leave
it. I lefti We left! Stick those values, because capitalism,
capitalism's got to go and the protestant bullshit ethic has got
to go too. Postpone pleasure, put your money in the bank--your
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reasonable--we want everything! We're rational--we want it
now! We're responsible»-we're going to take it! Up against
the wall, motherfucker!
"Uh, now for the answer period. If you got any....
there's going to be some people making some announcements, uh,
about forming a local conspiracy group here. Conspiracy, by the
way, conspiracy means to breathe togetHEFT'mThitrE'wHat the niee
town'll think--breathing together. Because there's a conspiracy
trial, there's a trial right here in town. There are people
right on trial for the very same thing that we were on trial for
in Chicago. Maybe some of themcould rap, and then maybe after
that there will be some answer period. You know, we talk some
more. I wanna stay here a long time cause tomorrow I'm going
to Dallas, so I'd just as soon stay up here."
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He are free, I'm standing right here now today because 500,000 of
my brothers and sisters, a jury of our peers, took to the streets
and burned down the fuckin Bank of America and other assorted
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houses. They sell you a big, probably a edge of liberalism
right here. They say...ue11, the conviction was, it was good
that they knocked off the conspiracy, now we have a clear shot
at the constitutionality of the Anti-Riot Act. What a fuckin
attitude! That's like saying that the Dred Scott decision was
nice because then they could find out whether slavery was legal
or not. You know, it's the same kind of thinking. Let's don't
forget Nazi Germany awhile back. They killed six million Jews and
did a whole lot of other bad things. And you know how they did
them? They did them all legal. Every one of those Jews went
legally. And they all went through the court system. And people
better get that in their heads. Cause the
religion: dead, courtroom is the church of
say yeah sure, sure the military is brutal.
Sure police are brutal. Sure nobody learns
sities. Sure politics is corrupt. But thecourts...now that
the liberals. They
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come to your own conclusions about how fair that trial was.
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At this point someone from the audience begins to
speak.!
"Yeah, my name is Dennis Freed phonetic! and one
thing left we see the need for in our black liberation struggle
is to be able to distinguish between who our enemies and who
our friends is. And I can truly believe that Abbie Hoffman would
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necessary to organize a local chapter of the conspiracy defendants
on this campus. And speaking for the BSA on this campus, we feel
that we should have a meeting at ":00 Thursday up at the Free U.
so we can discuss about this movement on this campus. Like he
was saying on a national level, a political side of it is in the
near future is Bobby Seale, in New Haven, Connecticut, that is, uh,
scheduled for the fall. Hell like here in Fort Collins we do have
some political trials that are coming up, stemming from the BYU
incident. And it is necessary thet we do need funds for the
defense fund. So a hat will be passed around and if everyone can
donate a quarter to the defense fund for these upcoming political
trials. And I happen to be one of the defendants on a charge of
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Hoffman continues.!
"Hell, let's take some questions, I'll answer them
if you wanna talk. Why don't everybody like stand up and si
down cause maybe people are stiff, a little? You know?
Said they do it at basketball games. Uell, what time is it?
9:30?"
Someone from audience asks question relating to
wire tapping - question indistinct.!
"Well it's one of the appeals."
Another question from audience.!
Ho, but we're going back April 27th to Judge Hoffman
for a hearing. We just wanna, you know, be there."
Another question from audience, something about New
Haven.!
"They won't go to trial till the fall."
Another question from audience - both it and Hoffman's
answer, if any, not clear.! I
"OK. Want to sit down? He'll do about another half
hour.
"OK. Brother wants to make announcement. Why don't
you get them to sit down?"
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"All right, if I can have your attention for a minute.
One little short announcement. There's a cop downtown that likes
to beat up Chicanos and, like, he's got about six complaints
against him, you know. He put one dude in the hospital already.
Hell this happened last week. Thursday at 1:30 there's a City
Council meeting. icanos have gotten together in the
community along with some of the Chicano students. They want
people down there to support the demands this pig get kicked
off the force, all right? That's simple. Thursday at 1:30 at
the cop station on LaPorte."
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"How do people allow cops to come on the campus?
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"and we're going to have an appeal based on the judge and one
on the law, one on the contempt--I mean it's one that's going
to affect every political trial in the future. And there are
going to be plenty. You cannot go to a city or town or hamlet
in this country and not find politica1.trials. And it's a
question of defining what it is. Now I frankly believe that
that's a misuse of, uh, I believe every prisoner is a political
prisoner. I mean, you can't, you go into jail and you see that
ninety percent of the people in the jail are black, or up here
probably Chicanos and Indians, you know, you see that ninety
percent of the people are under thirty, you know, you say well
there's some politics involved in a situation like that. So
attack on the court system, attack on the prison system has gotta
be launched. That's why this national conspiracy is going to be
a fight against political repression. It'll all go on locally,
as well as nationally. Bobby Seale will go on trial sometime in
the early fall.
"Uh, some other questions? I didn't mean to put down
Roy and Dale so heavy, I mean. They have the best recordings.
"The FBI came up on a plane. I don't know if I can see
them here. They always travel in two, like nuns. YOU ever want
to freak out an FBI Agent, when you shake hands with him or some-
thing say Hey, your palm's wet, because J. Edgar Hoover thinks
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