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Subject made a spegch 4/29/69 to approximately 500 persons
at Gonzaga University, a Catholic Church affiliated
institution at Spokane, Washington. Persons in attendance
were mostly students and subject's appearance was sponsored
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subsequently indicates he was considered somewhat ridiculous
and some students were resentful that he was invited to the
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is one copy of news item from April 30, 1959, issue of
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On April 29, 1969, ABBOTT HOWARD HOFFMAN appeared
before approximately 500 persons in the Student Union
Building on the campus of Gonzaga University, a Catholic
Church affiliated institution at Spokane, Washington. Those
in attendance appeared to be 90 percent students of both
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HOFF%§N was not introduced by anyone. He introduced
and had shown o short films, one entitled "Off the Pig",
showing objectives of and demonstrations by the Black Panther
Party, and the other, described as the official statement
of the Youth International Party, consisted mostly_of scenes
of police battling rioters and scenes apparently from old
silent movies. _
HOFFMAN's speech, which followed the films, was
one and a half hours of disjointed and rambling statements
relating to him being charged with conspiracy at Chicago,
Illinois, and his coming trial. He talked about the alleged
attacks of him and other persons at the Democratic Convention
in Chicago during the summer of 1968, and of his fighting
in the streets for"What he Believes In". He was particulary
critical of police in general and educational systems.
HOFFMAN's statements were frequently punctuated with obscene
and vulgar words and sacreligious statements. '
Specifically, HOFFMAN stated his trial in Chicago
' scheduled for September 24, 1969, will he a "succuss"; that
. they will be defended by the greatestassemblage of legal
i 'talent this country has ever seen. He said they are seeking
__ permission for FIDEL CASTRO, who he described as a lawyer
_ to practice law in Illinois and assist in their defense.
He said_he is required to keep the FBI informed of his where-
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_ In referring to recent campus disorders at Columbia
and Cornell Universities, HOFFMAN said, "The flower children
have grown thorns" and "the spring offensive has begun". He
said he has been accused of using dirty four letter words,
.but the only four letter word he has introduced is "work".J
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founders here Tuesday night. i
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system is dying. lts time to,3b|.1ild something better and de-Iietd it, and that-i what the yie-lpiqs were trying to do in LincolnPark tn Chicago, he said. " _
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dated April 7, 1969.
On May lb 1969, at approximately 9:RO A.M.,a Special Agent SAE of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
FBI! observed Abbo t Hoffman and subsequently his
attorney, Gerald Lefcourt, enter Part 2B of the Criminal
Court of the City of New York, Room 411, 100 Centre Street,
New York City, where Hoffman was scheduled to appear before
the court for trial in connection with his havin beenarrested by the New York City Police Department %NYCPD!
on March 23, 1969, on charge of Illegal Possession of
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and his attorney, Gerald Lefcourt, leave the court room
and proceed to the elevators of the building.
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Legislative Director.
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HATIBHAL EMERGENCY CIVIL LIBERTIES
COMMITTEE, Formerly Known As
Emer5ency_Civi};liberties Committee
The "Guide to Subversive Grganizations and
Publications", revised and published as of December 1,
1961, prepared and released by the Committee on UnAmerican
Activities, United States House of Representatives,
Washington, D. C., contains the following concerning the
Emergency Civil Liberties Committee:
"Emergency Civil Liberties Committee
"1. The Emergency Civil Liberties Committee is an
organization with headquarters in New York,
whose avowed purpose is to abolish the
House Comittee on UnAmerican Activities
and discredit the FBI. * * *
The committee finds that the Emergency
Civil Liberties Committee, established
in 1951, although representing itself
as a non-Communist group, actually
operates as a front for the Communist Party.
It has repeatedly assisted, by means of
funds and legal aid, Communists involved
in Smith Act violations and similar legal
proceedings. One of its chief activities
has been and still is the dissemination
of voluminous Comunist propaganda
material.
FRANK WILKINSON was called as a witness when
he appeared in Atlanta as a representative
of the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee
to propagandize against the Committee
on Un-American Activities and to protest
its hearings. in 1955 WILKIKSCE was
identified as a Comunist Party member by
a former FBI undercover agent within the
Party. Sumoned at that time to answer
the allegation, his reply to all questions was,"I am answering no questions of this committee."
This also became his stock reply to questions
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when he appeared during the Atlantahearings. * * * WILKINSON has since been
convicted of contempt of Congress and sentenced
to one year in Jail.
Disputing the non-communist claim of the
organization, the committee finds that a
number of other individuals connected
with the ECLC also have been identified under
oath as Communists.* * *'
Committee on Un-American Activities, Annual
Report for 1956, House Report 187, March 9,
2.'To defend the cases of communist law-breakers,
fronts have been devised making special appeals
in behalf of civil lizertiss and reaching out
far beyond the oonfiwos of the Communist
Party itselt. Amour these organizations are the
* * * Emergency 31?i} fiber lea Committee.when the Conmunizt Paréy itself is under firethese fronts offer c bulwark of protection.Internal Security Subcommittee of the Senate
Judiciary Committee, Eandtqok for Americans,
s. Doc. 117, April 23, 1950, p. 91.!"
The New York Times" a New York City dailynewspaper, in its April 1, 396$, issue, page 13, contained
an item captioned, "Draft Uisscnters to Get More Help ,
which related that at a news conference held by the
Emergency Civil Liberties dommittee ECLC! on the previous
day, it was announced that the organization was changing
its name to the National Ewvrgency Civil Liberties Committee
NECIC! to reflect our determination to develop a vital
national civil liberties organization in all 50 states
as rapidly as possible.
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NECIB i 55 Est 55th Street, H557 York City.
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This week, Yippie ABBY HOFFMAN, America's
headlining anarchist explains how he mani-
pulates media and describes the America he
sees: and that is a corrupt, decayed.
tottering nation on the verge of collapse:
legislator from Florida says milk kills more
people than cigarettes: and he's pushing a
bill designed to let people die naturally,
which he says is not euthanasia.
Kaiser Broadcasting presents ALLEN'DOUGLAS.
Thank you. This is - A. HOFFMAN. Y.I.P..
Campaign manager for PIG, the 1968 presi-
dential candidate for the Youth International
Party, mind-blower and self-professed urbanolo-
gist. was once straight. He went to college
at Brandeis in Berkeley and studied psychology
and got a job as a drug salesman, earned
$15,000 a year, kept his hair cut, and mowed
his lawn. And then he got involved in the
Civil Rights movement in the South, he joined
SNYC, he marched, he got his head busted, and
ultimately this had an effect upon his mind.
When you read about ABBY HOFFMAN now, it is
seldom nice what the press writes. It you
read the writings of HOFFMAN himself. you
may not think of him in a kindly way because
ABBY HOFFMAN is a revolutionary with words
and politics and techniques in public
relations that are uniquely his. e is 32
years old.
You applied, is that a. . .uh. the research
says Chicago Police-Department. shat did
you get?
They made me an honorary member.
Yeah?
Yeah.
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where did you get the shirt?
Oh. I took it from one of them. couple of
weeks ago. We were there for our arraignment.
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Chicago. my favorite city. There are eight of
us who are charged with conspiracy to cross
the state line to select a pig. and each of
us can do about ten years on that charge. and
they put up eight cops to serve as like scape-
goats for Mayor DAB! and the other people that
made the decisions to beat the hell out of us.
So, I were the shirt as sort of an empathetic
gesture. Gesture towards them. We even
moffered them our legal services which is quite
gOOd. '
Did they accept? l
No, they didn't. They had their own lawyers.
They had their own fund. They're raising a
quarter of a million dollars for their defense.
You approached the Federal Government before
the National Mobilization Committee march on
the Pentagon, and you sought to gain per-
mission to raise the Pentagon a hundred feet
in the air to exercise it had evil spirits.
What was their reaction?
A five-sided figure in most religions is a
symbol of evil. Well. they gave us permission
to raise it ten feet. Not a hundred. But
it went up a hundred. I was there, saw it in
living color. Right up.
Did you really?
Yeah. sure. Who knows what happens there.
Who knows what happened in Chicago. I don't
know. We have a flick. Are you going to
show it?
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Yeah, have we got four minutes or so?
This is a little segment of a ten-hour movie
we made that was up for an Academy Award, but
unfortunately, didn*t win.
This if four minutes worth of, HOFFMAN by h
way is a multi-media person. he's got a book
eut, we'll tell you about that leter= Roll
the film, as they say in the vast wasteland.
FILM
In my opinion, the policeman isn't there to
create disorder. The policeman is there to
preserve disorder.
The tower seems to tremble
And the boats were tossed about,
and the fog rolled in.
and the grass rolled out,
From Lincoln Park, park of Lincoln.
There were phony news stories that the Yippies
had put LSD into the water supply. To quote
ayor EALY, the police were not here to create
disorder, the police were here to preserve
disorder.
Qcuneel the illegible!
Loads you down upon the very first you.
All the world was watching the terror in the
streets,
Hey, now, turn your head!
Johnny was there,
Johnny was there, '
So was Baby Sue.
Nasty Bob. Green Jean.
and Icky Daly, too.
Hey!
Also the lived on,
the poor souls to fate with
his Johnny and the younger side,
And all the boys of Daly land
dancing in the main.
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We'll return to the revolution in a moment.
but first this word. _
Hi, I'm ISRAEL DANISH for Yippie helmut. You
know nature has a special way of protecting
artificial and natural things. Here's an egg
yolk. Look what nature has protected the egg
yolk with. Nothing. Now nature's real helmut,
the natural helmet for the egg is the calcium
lined calcium cover. Watch as policeman's
truncheon destroys egg. No good. Nature's
helmut for the tomato, a bright red skin. is
also valueless when the policeman's truncheon
destroys it. Look at this squash. Everyone
thinks the squash is a powerful and synthetic
mutant of vegatablehood: but. yet, police-
man's truncheon destroys saporous squash. egg-plant DURING LAST SENTEDCE. '1'!-IUMFTNG $OU1~TJS
CAN BE HEARD!. Eggplant is vegetable. but
brain damage has occurred inside. MORE
THUMPING!. Yes. pumpkin. closest thing to
a human hea. When this is brought in con-
tact with a policemans truncheon, watch what
happens TRUMP!. And now theYippie head.
human's natural helmut contusion. Remember.
Yippie helmet is one up on Mother Eature.
This is the helmutl
And come on friend
Rise in song
In Lincoln Park. park of Lincoln.
Despite the behavior of Chicago police. Yippie
spirits remain high. Certain Yippies thought
it necessary to practice self-efense
maneuvers.
Blow Chicago down,
Blow Chicago Gown.
The brothers and sisters were beaten and brave
Convention progress was brought down the drain
Blow Chicago down
I was standing around
Just provoking the smiles
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DOUGLAS!Nothing else to do
wouldn't be for a while
Khan this cop cemes up
And he says I suppose
You're one of them'Yippies
I can tell by my nose.
Chicago police claimed that they used normal
restraint in the performance of their - Oh
My God! - duties: but actually there are many
opinions to the contrary.
Gentlemen, get this thing straight once and
for all.
Qh; did you see that?
Over-reaction. Over-reaction.
The policeman isn't there to create disorder.
The policeman is there to preserve disorder.
Oh, did you see that?
Over-reaction. Qverireacticn.
END FILM.
This is the man that made the movie you just
saw. All of us, together, will be back for
a discussion of law and order and freedom as
ABBY HOFFMAN sees it after we pause for these
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in background! and does in . . . culture.
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Does it bother you at all that not everybody
understands exactly what you're trying to
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I mean I'm not sure I understand it.
Do you know what you're doing?
Do you know what you're doing?
Well. I'm having a good time. and. uh, trying
to correct a system that I believe is basically
evil. and, uh, trying to live out an authentic
life and not alienate it to my work and my
play and my love and for what I'm fighting for.
Z don't understand revolutionaries, uh, and
you're a revolutionary» aren't you?
Well, it's a difficult word in this country,
cause you have like Dash, a revolution in
soap detergents, the dove rebellion. It's.
uh, very difficult, uh; I'm not putting a '
label on it. If you want to say its a
revolutionist, okay.
I didn't say revolutionist or anarchist.
Whatever you want to say, it's okay.
It is?
It doesn't matter because the words are so
unimportant that
Well, attitudes are important. and
What you do is important. r
What you are is important.
Your life and what you fight for. That's
what's important.
Well, I'm. the question I'm asking myself
about you, and I might as well ask you, there-
fore, is would you be what you are in spits
of what the system was? '
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Well, that's very hypothetical. I mean. uh.
what do you mean by that.
Well
I don't understand it.
Well, I know it's a terrific question when I
thought of it last night.
I'm on massive doses of paregoric.
K LAUGHTER!
Well, what constitutes a guy like yourself.
You know, why do people like you dedicate
your lives. Men with good minds, remarkable
minds, and talents. youre a great movie maker
and, uh, you said they are very good at pro~
motion of pigs for president.
Uh huh. he won.
Yes, he won. And you can't say that for
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So why do you do this? Are You a peculiar
kind of an animal yourself? What breed are
you? would you oppose any system? Supposing
the system were, you know, some other system,
great system.
No
Would you be in opposition to it anyway?
No. I think it would be very gratifying to
live and play and work in a system in which
you believed in. Yes, I think that would he
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I find myself experiencing courts and police
stations and jail.
Yeah, but you're not the only one; there are
others.
Well, it's not a unique experience in this
country.
Some of them who don't predict that the system
is falling down as you do.
Well, suppose it's not so much our words, it's
our actions. Well, we fell for example, what
we did in Chicago was morally justified, giving
the closed political system as it_exists in
this country, and there is no way of reforming
that system from within so the fight has to
be taken out into the streets. It was our
intention when we went to Chicago to have our
Festival of Life up in Lincoln Park, which is
about ten miles away from the convention hall,
and, lo and behold, the Chicago authorities
wouldn't let us sleep in that park, even though
people have been sleeping there for hundreds
of years and wouldn't let us hold our alters
native festival because that obviously was
viewed by them as a threat to their concept
of law and order, the concept of power. And
so it was necessary-for us to learn how to
defend ourselves in the streets because that:
where we were driven every night, and so we
ran back. And we are thankful to the Chicago
police for teaching us that flower children
have to grow thorns if they are to live.
When you say we, who are'you referring to?
You mean all flower children?
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I don't know who confers authorization. but
who speaks for all those thousands of young
people who were in Chicago.
Well, I doubt if its RICHARD NIXON, who said.
Forward together, the words of a great Ameri-
can. Well, we are going forward together,
not on that trip.
I didn't say that it was BICBARD NIXON who
was speaking for them. But is it you?
No. I don't think I am. I don't consider my-
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leaders in Yippies and we don't have any real
structure. It's not a real organization.
It's a slogan. really, Yippie. with an
exclamation point and exemplifies a way of
life, which is like the politics of ecstasy,
and something that you can't really support.
You have to like to join it you have to be
it. You have to do it. You have to abolish
the concept oi money in your head. You have
to get into sharing, into a sense of
community with your brothers and sisters and
you have to fight to defend yourself in that
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30 arrests since mine on that Federal law.
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Oh, I don't know, I think
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You're going to get eight letters.
Yeah, I suppose I could.
But, the point is that it's the mod fashion;
I just saw it advertised in the New York Times:
the same shirt, two weeks ago. But, its just
like pot. Everybody smokes pot doesn't get
arrested, yet there were 200,000 narcotic
arrests last year. You know if you're respec-
table and you live uptown in New'York. you
don't get arrested. If you live down on the
lower East Side, you get arrested constantly.
Even if you don't smoke it, I mean. We had,
three weeks ago, the cops came into an office
that I use. an office that isn't even in my
name: you know, I'm one of the many people
that pay rent on it. Never sleep there. And
they left a brown paper bag with three loaded
guns, black jacks and heroin. And then they
came back an hour later and arrested three guys
and took the bag with them. And I went in to
pay the bail on one of the guys, they arrested
me. They said it's your office. I said it's
not my office. It's not in my name, you know,
I wasn't there. And anybody else it would have
been immediately thrown out of court. You
know, I mean, the lawyers are just f1abber-
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cigarette is an over-reaction.
Who was the enemy in Chicago?
Well, I think Mayor DAUY runs a very tight
ship. You knew it's e very awkward kind oi
city, when we could. for example. they woul dn't
give us a permit; and, uh, we went into court
to sue him. The judge we went before, a
Federal Judge, his name was Judge BYNCH, which
is kind of interesting. all judges have
interesting names like that: but he turns out
to be Mayor DALY's ex-law partner. who Mayor
DALY appointed or certainly played a great
role in influencing the Federal Government_to
appoint him. How are you going to get him to
act against BABY? And it works that way for
the whole court system. I men, uh. there were
like about 400 people arrested for resisting
arrest in Chicago, uh 399 of whom they let
go; one they have given a jail sentence, me.
That's called equal harrassment under the law
or something, I don't know, But that's under
appeal. It's kind of hard to figure out how
you resisted arrest for a crime that you
didn't comit.
What do you expect is going to happen to the
village of Chicago? Do you expect
Well, I think that. that they played right
into our hands. Its almost as if we were
running the government because they've taken
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our leaders to tell us what to do. They're
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which he gave a fifteen minute speech. He is
involved. uh. two non-leaders of the Yippies.
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Yeah. Well. non-leaders to a non-organization.
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aren't the heads of SDS, but the government
and the public thinks they are. so they get
indicted. and two college professors thrown
in for good measure. Eight of us. eight of
the cops. and one girl from NBC. And that's
called justice, but that. alas. like LENNY
BRUCE said. in the halls of Justice in America
the only justice is in the halls. It might
not be there. I mean I was arrested last
Friday. I was dragged out of a phone booth
while I was waiting for my trial to come up
in a court house in New York City, and I was
smashed on the head and thrown against the
pillar: and the cop said. well, you know what
he said. those obscenities they call them. get
out. but in his own particular manner. I said
hey, I'm on trial here, you know, I'm on
trial. so he proceeded like to eject me out
and I went into my karate'exhibit: sent three
of them to the hospital. and. uh. for that
I'm up for felonious assault and five other
charges. But it will never stick. I mean
that they did this whole performance in front
of judges and lawyers and newsman. who were
saying, what is this thing. You know, I was
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That kind of stuff is going on. I know people
like don't accept that. You know they say.
well. that stuff ain't true. You know they
watch what happened in Chicago, and they said
it's not true, they must have been provoked.
Something must have happened. The police
aren't like that. And they're right. I mean
the white. middle-class people know the cop
is the guy who comes by and helps them fix a
flat tire and keeps an eye on the house when
they're away on vacation and they see cops
on the Mod Squad and, uh, all these other shows.
the FBI. and they're all good guys. See. but,
but what happened to us in Chicago is what's
been happening to us for the last four er
five years. certainly. and for black people
for three hundred years in this country. It's
nothing new. It's just that people don't see
that reality and that's why we went to
Chicago. We had to show our reality. We had
to show that, uh, where we were relating to
America was that we were living in e police
state. On my block in New York. there are 20
police that patrol the block. every single
day; and they grab kids and they put them
against the wall. they ask them for identifi-
cation, they arrest people for passing out
leaflets. free food. everything. Ihey blow e
whistle when they arrest somebody, and hal
the hippies turn in their cards. Zing. And
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No, don't say power. Think power. I think
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have power over other people's lives and
people play more of a role in determining
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Students play a role in determining policies
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role in determining what's taught in their
schools and how their police behave. Things
like that. We have to get it or this country
is going to be washed out to sea.
Let's go back to the hippies for a minute, and,
and who they are. Why are they, uh, let's
maybe approach it from the standpoint of what
they are. Why are these people, these young
people. running away from home. Why are they
coming to New York and living down in the
lower East Side.
Well. I know there are like great sociological
documents done on this, but the simple fact is
that people run away because they don't like
like it where they came from. And it's that
simple. They don't like. uh, they don't like,
they see that vision of where that suburban
white middle-class life is leading. You know.
to a nice safe, secure job. with relatively
unexciting, relatively boredom, boring. plastic
heart maybe they can get from a good doctor
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Well. they already sec that. They see their
parents. There into that. They're already
in that coma called American life, and. uh.
they don't want it. They reject it and so they
seek other things. And they end up in San
Francisco and New York. It's just cause the
oceans are there. They just keep going. but
the oceans, but the oceans are there so they
stop at the edge of the ocean and settle in.
some go across. They've gone all over Africa.
Greece. I dont know. islands. People are
running away.
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People find out. You see. what the hippies
found out is that when they pull out to like
say Hill Communion in Vermont or Colorado.
to do their little thing. or in Florida. with
an old friend and start a little community.
Well. that. uh. this is a threat to the parent
culture. The parent culture sends in their.
you know. their cops. They own the cops. they
send them in, get em out. So they found out
that they have to fight. So. in fact. there
are no hippies except in Time Magazine any
more. But there are none on the lower East
Side. and I, I'm not sure that there ever were
any. I never was a hippie, and none of my
cousins ever called themselves hippies. But
we knew that, you see. we knew the way that
the media. the media has to label things, you
see. so we just said. well. hippie. Okay. Wow.
We'll just change the H to a Y. make it Yippie.
and then just stick our information in. cause
anytime anyone hears the word Yippie. they'll
say. wow. yeah. oh T know what a yippie is.
They go to Chicago during the Democratic con-
vention. You see. It's already defined. And
that's all it is. The rest is all baloney.
Its all made up. So we learn from the media.
from their use of the word hippie.
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He did it for free?
Yeah. All the people that contributed did it
for free. cause the money
That's against the law
It says by free. The book isn't free
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I mean, the ?B1 is subpoenaed it, and theyre
going to use it in this trial against us. so
all the secrets are in it. Funny thing about
this conspiracy, it's very public. It's
supposed to be e secret thing: in fact. we're
putting out, uh, conspiracy rings, recording
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keep em busy.and research and everything and
I mean we have to keep those
guys busy. right? Fill out their fantasy
world. LSD in
Do youthe drinking watter. Ha Ha.
That's so funny. They sent 1500, uh. National
Guard men to guard the reservoir in Chicago
and the filter system and, uh, called up
Deputy Mayor STALL, which is another inter-
esting name, because he was the chief staller
on the permit. and I said, hey DAVE, like,
uh. how come you sent all those troops out
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yeah, we know,this stuff about LSD. Must
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not our rumor, it must be made
know it can't be done? He says
it can't be done; we aren't
taking any chances anyway. So I'm gomg to-
stop and figure out his fantasy world.
Ridiculous. Let him send the troops. Plain
fact. it can't
it.
Yeah?be done, but were working on
There are alternative chemists. who feel that
that can be done in a year. But as of now. ,
it can't be done. But the, they, even they
know that, they don't take any chances. So
you just play on their own insanity and their
Own spookiness. Zonk em out. They know we
got money from.Cuba, and Peking. and Hanoi. an
Asia. Sure, I read about it. DAB? has got it
all down. illegible!. They're going to
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trial it's going to come out. It's probably
illegal. But it doesn't matter, you know,
what's the difference. How can you. You just
can't talk about legality in this country.
Where does the money come from for what you
do? "
Oh. well. it, uh, certainly comes from the
book, eh. That's why we're here. Should I
sell it again?
Yeah. sure, hold it up.
Right.
And he's got a
Come and get your molotov cocktail.
It comes with a bucking
People want, send, write me some hate letters.
or send me some bread or file, they can send
it to the conspiracy, 109 North Dearborn
Street. Chicago, Illinois.
Is that capital C on conspiracy?
Capital C, yep. Capital C. Write out a
check, whosh. Conspiracy, send it across the
state line, and it's good for five years in
prison. That's how we're going to get our
money, because we don't sort of faggy money.
we want good hard cold money. People make
a committment. Or that we'll print our own.
We have a printing press in New'York. We'll
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in your brown suits and brown shoes, scrabbling
around for all this money, like theyd never
seen it. And then, maybe no, you know, with
all the credit and stocks and, maybe those
guys never see money. That's why they're so
hungry. I don't know. They sure dug it
though. They were gobbling it up. Well. we
know money's useless.
I noticed that you've got a little activity
on the college campuses now, and the indi-
cations seem that there has been a kind of
reaction against them. The moderates are al-
most beginning to sound reactionary. What's
your comment on this?
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I don't see it that way. I see every time I
pick up the papers. I go to campuses, I go
to a lot, myself, trying to earn my degree
in agitation. So what. No it's not that at
all. College students are starting to say
no. I mean what with being tardy is ridi-
culous and the role of the university. I
mean Harvard is going up. Wow. Or is it M.I.T.
right across the road from Harvard, down the
street, sort of my home town, where I live,
and M.I.T. has a hundred million dollar a
year contract with the Defense Department.
That's out of sight. I mean, you know, what
has that got to do with like education. What
has ROTC got to do with education? You know.
what is making, for example, the University
of Pennsylvania, growing anthrax} You know
they have enough anthrax to do the world in
nine times over. And then their chemical
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got to do with learning? What's that got to
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joke in this country. You can't learn what-
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I want to learn guerrilla warfare. You people
keep telling me to split. You think I'm
going to learn that. No.
There's not a big market for that.
That's the thing. I don't want to go. See,
and the people who come to the lower East Eide
see, especially those who drop out of school.
you know, like I did. Right. Especially those
kind of people realize that what they learned
in the colleges and universities wasn't any
good to them in terms of survival in the
jungle. They would have been better off going
into the Army or going to prison because those
kinds of skills are skills that we need. That
kind of, well, debated the issues. Well, the
issues, the issues are in. We concerned with
how we solved very direct problems on the lower
East Side, how we defend ourselves, how we
feed everybody free, how we clothe everybody.
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free. Because our vision, and this is the only
way we see out of this dilemma, is to give away
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like very heavy stuff, but, it's gonna happen
in 50 years anyway.
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survives, it'll happen here. _
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forseeahle future, I would like to call a
pause for the following capitalist, materialist
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this occasion.
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Model of sanitorial splendor.
I know when to wake up and all that stuff.
Yeah.
It's, uh
In honor of you, I didn't wear makeup.
They do this all day and all night. In fact.
I sleep very little.
Really?
well, playing is very tough, tough work, in
this country.
Is that all you do is play?
Yes. Play and make love. Fight. Don't work.
Never will again.
There's a question in the audience. There's
a man back there.
You said that you expected to be convicted many
times in lower courts, but you'll never lose an
appeal. Is that right?
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Yeah, well, maybe, I, well, I, I, they'll never
put me in jail.
Then you say that there's no legal justice?
How can you say that? It may be slow, but it's
there.
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the only way that the government uses. uses
the court system. For-example. or Columbia,
I was arrested for being in a building in y
Columbia, when in fact at the time I was in a
radio station 50 blocks away. You see, and
the police make that little kind of mistake. so
I get off. But my trial hasn't even come up
yet, even though that was a year ago, and I've
made six appearances. You see, and you have
to go to the court and sit there, and it ties
up the lawyers and it ties up our, myself, I
have over $12,000 in bail funds already in
various cities around the country, all tied
up. And then they claim, like once I was
arrested ior carrying eoncealed weapon on an
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one on ya. It's about this big. You see,
there was $3.000 bail. and what the govern-
ment did was to confine me to, uh. the Federal
District of Manhattan in Chicago. I wasn't
allowed to leave there. Um. the reason they
did that was because we had planned to go to
Prague to sock it to the Russians with the
pig. And they didn't want us messing around
with those kind of international things. so
they dreamt up this thing, and that charge was
immediately dropped. But you see. before it
got dropped, it cost $1600 going back and forth
about four or five times. myself and my lawyer.
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What would have happened to you in Prague if
you had messed around with the Russian people?
Well. it never got there. So. like, I can't
say. I don't know what the State Department
feels it can do with that. Let them deal
with it. No.
Gentlemen.
we have. we have, I mean, I personally have
great empathy with the Czechoslovakian people.
in their
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fight against the Russian capitalism.
I'll drink to that.
Capitalist invasions.
That.PREDERIC LUMBURG said that they had a
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Well. it might be a certain aspect of big
powers like Russia and the United States
that they have more in common that they don't.
I certainly am not sympathetic to the Russians
I've met.
Well
Although I am to some of the other bad ones,
shall we say? Like FIDEL, my uncle. he'll
be one of the lawyers defending us in Chicago.
He's a lawyer. Havannah. Cuba.
You think, you think, he'll take the case?
Well, we're entering his name in, the question
is whether the Northern Illinois Bar is going
to accept.
vb huh.
Hark us law in.Chicago.
Yeah.
If they do, he'll come. He's a damn good
lawyer.
To Joke about it. he didn't do bad in Cuba.
Odd for a lawyer.
The gentleman on the top row.
Do you feel the political. social; and economic
uh, system, in this country, can be changed
enought to suit you and your associates with-
out creating a type of anarchy?
Um, well, anarchy is a heavy word. Huh? Well.
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the word anarchy they say, uh. chaos. We '
see mass experimentation, see. and s lot of
people. like. working out their different
kinds of life styles in a tribal manner. Now
I am not afraid of anarchy. That sounds like
a beautiful thing in fact. So, uh
Why do you say it's beautiful?
Well. because people, uh, an anarchist is a
person who doesn't need a cop to tell him what
to do. You know, and that seems to me like a
good society to aim for. Where people under-
stand on a biological and human level their
responsibilities to their brothers and sisters.
It seems like a nice thing.
Love.
But, if you question what if, if it can reform
itself, the government and the economic system.
no. it can't. Well. I think that was proven
in Chicago.
What happens, you know. with mass experimentation?
Don't a lot of people
Hell, there is a lot of moving around.
Yeah.
And, uh,
Don't people get trampled?
And, uh. a lot of failures.
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people play a role. You see?
You got that straight?
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It's very beautiful. It doesn't become like
work, you know, sitting on assembly lines,
sitting behind a desk. you know. doing some-
thing thats alienated from you. Something
that ends up miles away, you know, dirty work.
That's what the capitalists have phrased it so
the people will all go to school and try to
get nice clean jobs. You know. like what
you're doing. That's clean work. 50. but.
uh. it doesn't work that way in a revolution.
There's no concept of dirty work. There's
no concept of work. It's all the same. It's
all the same. Its all an expression of life.
That's what we're aiming for, and that's what
we ll achieve. That's cause we're going to
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There are inequities and so forth» but it
seems to me whenever I'm confronted with the
philosophies such as you present that all I
see is the only option is more ohaos=
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definite, uh. programs, definite proposals
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I mean, the doctor that was on before talked
about legalized abortion.. You know, maybe
that'll come in 20 or 30 years, but. see, on
the lower East Side. we're already giving out
free birth control information. and pills and
free abortions for people and making contacts
with doctors who are willing to do it. We're
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We're already living that kind of life that
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But the image we get, the general public.
That's no image.
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and it was, uh, 6 AM, beautiful morning,
next to Lake Michigan on the beach.
Yeah.
Cop cars were all around, helicopters with
their machine guns flying overhead. Some big
threat out there. And it was like very
beautiful, mystical, religious experience.
And I was crying because I knew that that
would never, like. make it on TV that night.
It would be shot for violence because the
media eats up violence and, uh, well. that's
it. You know that was like sa. I mean,
a lot of our lives are like beautiful. You
know the way we share our food, don't lock
our doors and things like that. But that
story isn't told. Stories of our confrontations
and
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I hope it is; I think it is. Do you see it
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What? What?
This good work you're talking about. .It's
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talk about free food, we give it out. We
have a free store in New York. We give out
things free. If we don't give them out free
we teach people how to steal them.
Yeah, but.
It's all in the book, how to steal. I told
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That was the pot you gave me; wasn't too
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musnwan!
Terrible stuff. I'm sorry if I got ya in
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I always do that; I always get people like you
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because I get, uh, letters about you anyway.
I got a big mouth.
Letters about you anyway. That
Do you really believe in all this, and do,
how do your family take all this what you're
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You know. She's white. middle class. living
out there in the suburbs. Watching all those
silly shows. She's hooked on sound of music.
You know. and it's like duncinq to her mind.
Causes a kind of brain damage.
And if you turn the station.
So we can't communicate.
And if you try to
But she still likes me. You know. I'm her
son, right?
If you turn the
And she don't see why the government's going
to put me in jail for ten years. It doesn't
seem right.
If you turn the station and you're on, she'll
be happy?
Hmm?
If she turns the station. and you'll be on th
other station, will she be happy?
Yeah. What is she gonna think when she sees
you looking like this. you know. Andria it
Uh
Is it true that the Sound of Music causes
dhromosome damage?
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I mean me and my friends think that that
kind of stuff is obscene. We would share in
for I am curious to win special effects you
know. in
Why
When the Academy Award came out.
Why?
Because those very groovy special effects.
People making love. like I said. they saw
people dying
They show this.
People getting shot all day on TV, but you
can't show people. uh
They're showing it, they're showinq it.
They're showing it.
On this show?
No, not on this show.
What do you mean.
I should say none.
Who wants this show.
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Ha. I know it, I'm good.
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I'm curious now, where do you get all your
money to finance this. You hadto come hero.
Who paid for it? You travel all over the
eountry= Nell, suppose he did.
You did. You're a taxpayer. You pay for it
right? You pay the Federal Government. Look,
the FBI, the FBI talks to me three times a
day. You know. I insist every time they buy
me dinner.
Yeah.
I ask them for money, talk to him about his
homosexual. He's never slept with a girl.
He didn't. Right. e doesn't believe in
pre-marital love, right. He never was married.
so, like, he never did it. He's either a
pope or he's a faggot.
Well, then who defends you? Public defender
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The lawyers Go it free. Yeah, the court, the
costs on this trial are going to amount to a
quarter million dollars or more because there
are all kinds oi investigations that have to
be carried on and movie footage that has CO D8
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Enormous, yeah, but if illegible!. Yeah,
maybe, everybody's paying it. That's why
it's such a joke. I mean TWA is part of the
conspiracy. You know, news media is part of
the conspiracy, everybody's part of it.
Mayor DADY's an intrical part of the conspiracy
You know if he didn't give that order to drive
us out of the park every night at ll=O0, you
know, we wouldn't be having this trial. I
wouldn't have had a book or nothing. We would
have just sat in the park and, uh. made love
and smoked dope and listened to music and
danced around. Thats what we would have done.
And that's groovy too. That's groovier than
fighting cops. But if you gotta, you gotta.
Wouldn't you rather have it that way?
which way?
The way it all worked out.
Well, you know, it's like a work of art, you
gotta like approach it like it's an artistic
thing. You know you just like do something
and then you say, well, 99 percent of the
people have been like what you did. So what.
Well, what I've never heard that held anybody
back in history, huh? The same people wouldn't
have dug the American Revolution. They would
have been Tories. They would have had to
flee to Canada when it all broke out. They
would have said, Hey} Good old King George III
ain't that bad. I mean after all you got a
few pennies. And most of them felt that way.
It was just a few kooks, like me, sitting up
there, they had long hair, you know, they had
their muskets and were up on the Lexington-
Concord Bridge, like ADAMS and HANCOCK. They
said. oh no, man, we're going all the way.
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and ABBY HOFFNAN's book is called "Revolution
Fer The Halibut." He signs it free, F R E E.
whether you dig this man or not, Uh, I think
he's a man that has to be listened to because
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cnnmuu. DIVIBIGI71°" = Director FBI _34J I76 -" ATPENTION: am. CHARLES BBOOKBART
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A. [::] This covers the preliminary investigation and
no further action concerning a full investigation will be taken
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B. ii] The investigation is continuing and you will
be furnished copies of reports as they are received.
C. [::] The investigation requested by you has now
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quiries will be made by this Bureau.
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ment, no investigation will be conducted in this matter unless
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no further action concerning a full investigation will be taken
by this Bureau unless the Department so directs.
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be furnished copies of reports as they are received.
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specifically directed by the Department.
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"ave you got the catalogue? Oh, you got it.
ihats your naae? hutch? You know hutch. hutch has the
catalogue. You know this filn and the next one, and
there are about fifty other fills - they're groups in
San Francisco, Atlanta, New York's the largest, I guess,
Chicago's startin' up - of filnnakers who sake these fills
and send then around to schools and show then on the
streets, communities and stuff like that. Next one won
the acadny award for nost political relevance by SD8. It
was close. There was another filn called Cultural
Ilperialisa in antarctica, that only cost six hucks. This
one cost twelve, so I think that's why ve won. Twelve
bucks - four of us aade it. Id Sanders, who was - I heard
he was here last year - he did the soundtrack. Phil Oakes
and some other Yippies Just aade up a song and stuck one in,
and G. I. Griffith helped out - you'll see his in there.
It was put together by stolen footage and a little extra
shooting, and it was nade for twelve dollars by four guys
who like don't know how to lake a fill. It's a groovy kind
oi way to ieditaie - sake a iovie. Try it, its easy.
Iayor Daley, I forgot his. Oh, I gotta show you ay shirt.
I gave this cop some hash and... I wear it to trials and
arraignnents. I wear it to nod squad. Yippie. Ready,
OK, here's Yippis. Oh, this was aade for TV, so the words
have been changed to protect the innocent.
"How did Oliver win? Iell, there was one thing
wrong with the fila. Io did put the LSD in the drinking
inter. ESD in the drinking water. They've all this
evidence, eight people, conspiracy, put LSD in the drinking
water. Everything was ready. Insanity. Real nission
appears for the governnent. I'a here to check out a sight
for the ABM Systea. This is one of our key programs.
They're workin' for us. You see, a couple years ago we
thought this country ought to take abot eight billion
dollars;...He's busted, he's calling up Dedaulle. He's
going to be the next Secretary of welfare in this country.
So he asked i9 to cone up here and look around, so ii you
know a good spot for it around, let as know. I'll be
doing ny duty. ISD in the drinking water.
" They have fifteen hundred troops in Chicago
guarding the filter ayeten in the reservoirs for the LSD,
and I'll call up Deputy layer stall, he's gotta stall for a
pernit for five aonths. That's his nane, David Stall. There
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injunction egeinet the eity, hie eeee nee Leech, Judge
Lynch. so did, right there. It was kinda tough because
he was layer Daley's ex laa partner, you know, and it was
alvays like vorking out that say. So as didn't get that.
I call up Dave Stall cause I try to he helpful. I said,
"Bey Dave. l'll let you in on a secret. You hnoa that lh
thing in the drinking rater and all those troops out there?
Like, you guys nusta seen eater in the streets or sonethin'
Like, it can't he done. Ihy don't you call up your
scientists, I sees you sen the: ell, es: thee." He says
I know, we checked it out, but we aren't taking any chances
anyway. They aren't taking any chances. Ha. Poser.
Nominate a pig. It's illegal to have an aninal in the
streets of Chicago unless you're Spiro gnev and the A
aninal's an elephant, then it's OI. He did it. Pig knowed,
d this ress conference p they busted the pig, see. Ie ha P
and he said you turn this pig loose in three hours, ve run
a lion for president. So the cops, I don't know then, they
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nether fuckers. Choice of insanities.
You think l'a kiddin', huh? This is from one of
their heet journals out there, the New York Times. You
knot people say, did you read the newspaper this norning.
Iell, some people say did you read the Tiles
this is a whole different thing. Like, it's
security hlanket, :11 the nets that's tit to
everything, you know. I don't read it hut Ithis morning;
a nation's
print and
watch the ads
on TV in New York, and they say even though you don't read
it all, it's nice to knou its there. Ihat'a so nice about
it? 1 don't knee, they don't even have comics. They got
tines though. UPI - a house subcommittee reported today
that spies are collecting infornation so fast that their
chiefs do not have tine to read it. Then it goes on to say
hon they lost the Pueblo, Vietnam, North Dakota, and_a few
other things. here's another one. it's another serious guy
down here. Atlanta AP - an Atlanta aortician has adopted
a drive-in approach for busy persons who rant to drive hy
and vie: a deceased friend. Herehel Thornton is building
five sindcss in s roe es en extension of his_funerel hone.
Each Iindoi is six feet long and will contain a body in its
coffin. The display will face a driveway onthe side of
the hole located on a husy street. so aany people want to
cone by and see the renains of a relative or friend, Thornton
said, hut they Just don't have the tine. This say, the
aourner can drive by and just keep on going.
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"I was busted tor wearing the shirt Betsy Ross
aade for ae. I went down to..there have been like thirty
people busted for wearing that shirt or a vest or soaething
like that, but they're all people that the power structure
doesn't like. See like, there're two sillion, seven hundred
thousand laws in this country, but like, really there's
only one. It's catch 22. It says they can do whatever
the tech they esnt te te these people they dea't like,
providing those people don't stop then, vice wersa. It's
how the whole thing works. So like, that's a nod fashion,
that shirt, and appears in ads in New York Tiles, San
Francisco Examiner, Los Angeles Tiaes. Phyllis Diller goes
on TV in a aini-skirt, wears a flag, and gets twenty thousand
dollars or something, you know. I get thirty days in Jail.
And I: prettier than she is. Iell, so here it is, District
oi Columbia Court oi Appeals, United States oi Aaerica,
versus ie, Johnny Cash. ielrin Hamburg, attorney for
fE3'Uhpartsent oi Justice. This Is the governnent - you
know they have to tile this brie! to show why they need that
law. The importance of a ilag in developing a sense of
loyalty to a national entity has been subject oi nuaerous
essays. First essay, see Hitler, lien Iaspi. Dig that,
whose straight? Hey you, cone here tor a second. Ie don't
need any enesies. Choice oi insanitiee. Governsent quoting
Hitler. I_know what we got that can latch that, Attilla
the Bun, Sitting Bull. You knoe there was this thing called
hippies. Hippies was a kind oi a nice thing. That was
about the susser of 1967; no, it started a little bit before
then, huh, about January, 1966, I thing was the iirst sore,
lore oi less, about a year. Peace signs and love and kiss
cops, sails, all gonna happen. They're beautiful. Beautiful
people started out in San Francisco, one oi the soet beautiiul
cities in the country, and they had flowers, flowers, as a
symbol. They went up to Golden Gate Park and you picked then
and brought then around and gave then to cops and said we
love you. lake love not war, yea. Then decided they didn'tgiro like that. They didn't want kids doing it.
"You know alot of lids cane iron the lower east side
in ew York, that's where I: iron - the shangri la oi the
could work for years out here and you'd never get ten
thousand tons oi garhoge. Eigh so you ooold see, and allI his east. Ten thousand tons oi garbage right now in ny area. You
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kids, they were sick oi it, sick oi that senile gerentocracy.
It's a plastic world out there. Coming dosn. G6*t6*8ah "
Francisco. Iear a flower in your hair. ind we tried to take
care oi thew, put up crash pad, free rent, cops busted us,
said contributing to the delinquency of a ainor. leave then
on the street ehere they can get angged and raped. E.
Conflict in values. Ient on like that tor about a year. like
the Beatles said, all you need is love. Then it happened.
This was Bosto last sunner. It's a sunny day on a Boston
caln, couples lie on the grass, kids playing Frisbee and
catch; one big happy scene, America the beautiful. You can
snap and eat Kodachrome in your aind and send it all over
the world. Xerox. 5 young girl with long hair, beads and
sandals, winks at you and hands you a leailet, quote, last
hight oh the Boston cili in the dart, pigs, they ssished our
beer, and they brought out the dogs, they clubbed and tear-
gassed us, and arrested sixty-iive. Tonight we asseahle
again. Don't let the pigs take our park. The streets belong
to the people. The girl loves on handing out the leailets
in a very selective manner that looks ever so casual; a
leailet to a black couple, one hesitatingly to a Frisbee
player, a leailet and a hug for two long-haired guys, one
playing a ilute. About a iourth oi the people in the area
got leaflets, comrades being gathered for the second iaerican
revolution. Ho leailots for the Torries. The girl had
ripped the Kodachroae in two, the eyes blinked and one saw
two pictures. Thea us, us then, then and then sore suskets,
redcents and ireedee rides and hells and hlueneses and inch
and naked bodies in the pool and statues noldy and state
capitols on the hill and childhood reminiscence where Boston
was hose. The girl and the two long-haired guys are transiorsed
They are crisp as addicts, they are kneeling praying in a
Birsinghan church, when a boah cones through the uindou, a
heavy voice tron behind no ssirks up out oi the leailet and
drawls, hey boy, you people better not start anything tonight.
Ie don't like your kind in Boston. Tea sir, it was coon
hunting season all ever again. The Suited states and
Iississippi had iound theaselves another nigger. July 21,
1968. I adnit two hundred kids were arrested in that
deaonstration over a three-day period, charged with idleness.
Idleness. Didn't Patrick Henry say something about the
pursuit of happiness; I don't know, the pursuit oi idleness.
"So on and on, three weeks ago in Pals Springs,
twenty thousand young people, festival, festival oi lite,
like we tore having in Lincoin hart, huh. they eaie rith
helicopters, tear gas, lace and clubbed then and shot three
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You are brothers and sisters. ~Tou're sacking pot, huh;
that's the revolution, big deal. Busted for pot, that's
a political arrest. You have to respond accordingly. Get
that brother out any say. Scrub their minds. Nev York, a
group on valentine's Day sent thirty thousand Joints
sarijuana out in the sail. All kinds of people, Judges, nuns,
priests. Said, hey, you heard heard alot about it - here ~
it is. Three thousand com plaints. They can't figure out
who did it because by their prices, it cost about $35,000.
Let then keep hunting. I didn't get any. 1's waiting for
Iother's Day. Flower children growing thorns.
"Ianna have a festival of life in Lincoln Park.
Can re have this festival? Iell, you guys can't have it;
ten thousand people gone out on a narch on Lake Michigan,
naked A that's illegal. There it is, shoe us the lav. Iell,
it's back there....we got the law. Can't do it. Excuse se,
sir, sed like a persit to raise the Pentagon three hundred
feet in the air. It's illegal. What do you lean it's illegal,
sir; a pentagon is a five-sided figure, it's the sysbel of evil
in all religions. Ie're gonna circle it with twelve hundred
holy sen and raise it in the air. It's illegal. They arrested
two of us, measuring the Pentagon. But they, they're liberal
down there so they give us
get it up, you see, se had
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Chicago and lo and behold,
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a big failure. It's one of our
nominate a pig for president in
he won. Right? He's up there.
in for it. They said you guys,
gotta get together. You gotta
racy. Conspire to breed together.
in a conspiracy. You oughta join
ing. Bight of us, total of eighty
years, one hundred sixty thousand dollars, plus one hundred
sixty, nothing. Pick that up Just panhandling around this
country. Pick up eighty years, too. You ain't got your
Yippie helset. Conspiracy . Ie got a notion going in a
couple days. Ie're gonna ask then to aove the trial fros
the Federal Building to the coliseus. Ie're gonna be tried
by the lions, Just like th
that; so got a great legal
around this country, best
ninth lawyer, Doctor Fidele old days. And a seek after
teas, eight great lawyers, all
legal teas ever assembled, and the .
Castro, frel Havana, Cuba. He's
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the way it goes. Too can't do your thing. Flower children
get sons thorns. Revolution.
"I saw an ad a couple days ago, did you see it?
Ihat are the revolutionaries that United Artists planning
for '69. Jesus. They cughta be doing it. United Artists.
Dodge rebellion. It's tough to figure out what those words
mean, so we got a whole new set. Io ain't serious. Business
sen are serious, Iovie producers are serious. Everybody's
serious but us. is ain't serious and never gonna be serious
again. You're not serious, nan. You won't work. Iork
work work work rork. That's a four-letter word. A dirty
four-letter word. No, we never work. Is play all day. Is
fuck and smoke pot and play all day and love it. They hate
that. That's worse than not even taking a bath and doing
all the other things and guerilla fighting. But you're gonna
not work? And see, like, ah, Yippies are students; they're
aenbers of the working class, but we're on strike. le partly
went on strike because we envision a free society. Free
society like the fathers laid it out, you know, America,
land of the free. Oh, my old nan said at an early age, said
free aesns you don't pay. Ihen can I go to the supermarket
and huy what I want with my good looks? That's what
Ginsberg said. Beautiful cat. That's the Prograa for the
future, everything free. Iell, how we gonna do it. Iell,
you like, I don't know how it is with wheat out here, but
like with corn, about ten years ago it took 480 nan hours to
process an acre oi corn. Today it takes 48; in five years
it'll take four, and in ten years it will take four minutes.
Ie'll have corn, we'll have popcorn, we'll have everything;
caramel corn, any kind you want, free. Iby not?
Ie put out a booklet called, "Puck the System,"
in New York. Fifteen thousand free copies. Thirty-two
pages, right there, everything, how to get it free. Free
credit cards, calls, hos to do it, free laundrolats, how to
work that thing oh the tending iachines, hoi to get on the
subway free, where to get free fish, free food, free drugs,
free abortions, everything, right there. Free. Ie have a
free store down there. Ie give out things free. You Just
keep bringing it down. Is just keep passing it out, free.
Iho's in charge? You're in charge. Nobody: gotta be in
charge. It's all free. I know, but work's a heavy trip
cause, well, I guess it started with like way hack. The
tine of the Rosan Empire. There was this guy, Christ, this
groovy hippie, long hair, heatnik, out there doing his
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terrible. That's heavy stuff. Slave rebellion., Ie'll
call it religion. OK. That's sneaky. That's really
good. lever tell then shat you're doing. Religion, yea,
ox, so he got his thing, pigs nailed his up. They sere
poured out in the catacombs, just like the hippies going
out in the communes. later I'll tell you hos to fly in
an airplane free. Nov to dig on. So then caae the
disciples, see, and they're feeling kinda guilty, they
said, hey, he sas really serious, nan, did you see shat he
did; did you see the say he spent his Easter vacation? He
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don't isserious. If se gotta he that serious, shat are
do? They sere all sitting around there, Iark and
all these guys, and John says, I got an idea, shy
dress in black - that's serious. They say, es,
sounds good. And Paul, Paul is a real clever guy, he said,
shy don't se gfve up fuckin? Holy shit. Iark sas kinda
hornfv 5° B816. sell, I lean, I heard that Serson on the
Iount; he didn't say that. Io, they don't really think se're
serious, se gotta fuck it. OI, they did it for tso thousand
years. Do you knos Saint Augustine? He case up sith this
thing. OS, called original sin; said everybody got it. Go
out and feel guilty, be yourself, yea, I'ns a guilty nan,
I did it, I did it, I did it. Se they Siiled hie, he:
buried in about six different countries in Europe. I was
over there and sas his all over the place. They love his.
original
sitches,sin. Ios, that'll sell.
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and then along cane the Industrial Revolution, and
there sere all these bankers and guys osned big industries
and things, called Capitalism, and they said, hey, there's
only onething srong here, like, nigger; don't snnnn keen
sorking in the fields, and like, these tselve-year-old kids
don't sanna sork tsenty hours a day. They aren't doing too
good. They gotta help us out, so they sent up to Switzerland
and they see this guy in a funny little hat and funny shoes
salking around. John Calvin sas his name. He's very serious
and they say, hey nan, you gotta help us out. He says, yea,
I got a good thing, it's called Protestantism. Tell then
they don't sork, they ain't gonna get up there. Yea, post-
pone their pleasure, keep their soney in the bank, keep
their nose clean, up sith nobility, degrees, aee the arsy
cut their hair, take a bath, and they'll sork cause they
sanna go to heaven. They said that's groovy, that'll keep
then in there. -So they had a little aarriage, that value
systes lent itself quite sell to Capitaliss. They, they
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don't wanna do dirty work. Ihose gonna pick up the
garbage? I'n not; I wanna be an insurance salesman.
That's clean work. Keep your iingers clean. low the
lawn. Drug salesman. I was a drug salesman. Not that
kind. You don't sell that kind, you give it away. I
worked for this company, Iestwood Pharmaceutical. I don't
know ii you know any oi their products - they make sons-
thing ior acne, you know, and stuii ior bad breath. I
never let anybody with bad breath, but I like see a whole
lot oi stuii being sold about halitosia is worse than
cancer. So I was, ny Job was to go around and give
doctors iive hundred dollars to write a report about how
dome oi this drugs were, see, and then we'd take that
report and send it back to the hone oiiice, xerox it, put it
in some iancy academic Journal, and than take the Journal
around and show it to all the other doctors, tell then how
sped it was, see? Then they'd tell the patient to go out
and get it. Iy head was like really spinning, wow. And
I said, I started a question, like, what's the neaning oi
liie; what an I doing here; does this stuii work. So who
do I ask. I asked the ninisters. I asked the priests -
hey, is this any good? Ibat's the meaning oi liie? They
said go see Dalai Lana. Iell, he was too iar, so I asked my
boss, a regional sales manager. I said, hey boss, I!
gonna ask you something. This shit any good? Be said,
it won't kill you. It won't kill you. It was killing no
even though I had it down to a science. I worked iour
hours a day ior iiiteen thousand dollars. Nice hone in
the suburbs. Four hours selling my soul. Iestwood
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was iun anyway. You get really stoned doing that in the
mirror, huh? The best way is to have somebody else do it
tor ya. Then it's like interactive. lat em have their
acne, I said, and I headed ior the lower east side. Twenty-
two dollars a aonth rent. Nobody spoke English in the
whole building. It was a Spanish building. Garbage all
over the place. Puerto Rican ianilies cone out at night
and pick through the garbage downstairs to get something to
eat. Eat. Bow such are they paying these iarners out
here now to grow wheat? They oughta send some down. we'll
cone up and get it. Iheat, give it away iree. That ain't
charity - we ain't up to charity. Charity's a bun trip.
That's like Pat Nixon, you know, going up to St. Patrick's
Cathedral saying, here's a bag oi sugar. Send it to Biaira.
Isn't that cute? Iell. Eleven truckloads oi iood; we drove
it info Newark right during the riots. And we give it topeople. It's in cans, and we say you don't wanna eat it,
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kids, a thousand people eating turkeys, everything, Jelly,
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throwing the squashes into the basketball nets; no knives
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care cause it was fun. It was tun bringing it. Pun doing
that whole trip on Thanksgiving. Salvation Aray up the
street, and they could only give out, they were complaining
because they had prepared tor tiiteen hundred people, and
they only had about rive hundred show up and, oi course, they
eheaed the: eh T? and they all had te eit like that and
everything, and say blah blah blah blah. Ibo the hell wants
to eat? Blah. It's lore tun throwing it at caaeranen. Free
society.
"Iell, see, it's that vision. It's that vision that
brought us to Chicago, so we can have a festival of lite.
Lite, joy, that French cat over there in France, Just read
his book, he said revolution will be built on joy, not
ea eaeriiiee. hell, ahat'e joy? Fighting tar ehat yea
believe in is joyous. September 24, 1969, biggest circus
in the world opens in Chicago. Trial oi the conspiracy.
Ie applied for permits to sleep in Lincoln Park, eight or us,
since they were so nice to us the last tiae, we had such a
good tine, we're going back. Don't cone, don't cone, don't
cone on Septeaber 24, 1969, to Chicago, Lincoln Park. Do
not cone. Did you get that, FBI? Don't cone. It i'da
said do, I'd get another ten years. Iell, guess thEi'Tbere'e
eeheel, right? hell, they're all righteanrsery eeheele,
they give ya pabluw, lousy food and blocks to play with and
call it education. Hey, look at Cuba down there. You know
I saw this special on TV a couple weeks ago and they said,
let's show the kids studying in class, world revolution,
socialise, and all this. hrainwashing. Heavy. Brainwashing,
huh. Hot like here, we have tree education. Everytbing's
tree. Open discussion of ideas. That's baloney, like, take
any course. Like aatheaatics, OK. Ihen I was a young kid
they said haraer Jeaee had tear apples, he hreeght the: iate
town to dell then for two cents each. Bow such profit did
he sake? Oh, that don't count. That's not brainwashing,
right? lath class, why don't you go in there and ask thew,
how nany atrocities did the U.S. coanit today in Vietnaa?
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Take that up in Civics. That's sath. Walter Cronkite's
adding then up. How many troops desert? Last year,
iiity-two thousand troops deserted. Another iiity thousand
drait dodgers. That's a hell oi an Army. Support our
boys in Canada. Two weeks ago, eighty soldiers in Fort
Carson in Colorado took their Il6s and went over the wall,
and they're up in the Rocky Mountains. Government's like
afraid to go after thes. It would be a heavy trip in the
Rocky Iountains. They're not in to destroying the ecology
of the land. Deioliation, huh?
There were forty-two friends, two days ago they
got arrested, stopping a big syndicate ircn ripping out
Redwood iorests in California, chewing it all up. That
ain't sy trip, I sean, I don't know if they wanna clean up
alter the mess, it's 0!. In a way, it don't seen right,
huh, those trees, they oughta be living Just like people.
Just like kids.
"!ou know Hebuchadnezzar, this old pig in Babylon
a long tine ago, they got all the law and order ireaks
together and they said, what are we gonna do, see about these
kids cuttin' up, diggin the Beatles, lettin' their hair
grow long? Ssokin' pot? They said, well, we'll build an
idol, see, we'll call it soloch, and we'll get the parents
to cone down and teed theI¥ ETHs into the idol, and they
sold then that and their parents cane down and threw their
kids in the idol and down went Babylon. Now we don't need
noloch because we got the governsent to do thatiip -
killing kids. They aren't kids; I'n thirty-two, huh? I'm
a kid torever. That's what it is now, being ireaky, you're
always young. Isnaturity, we love it.
! was at s school about tour weeks ago in Ohio.
They threw out the kids iaworite teacher cause he was
eating cupcakes at a faculty seeting. He used the word
"hitch" in iront oi another teacher. They said they were
dismissing his on grounds of inaturity. Ie'd sake him a
general in the Yippies. Io are the people our parents
want us agaiut.
"The streets are a good place to learn stuff, so
the parents don't want to keep you in the street. light.
It's all, get out of the street, there's violence,
in the streets and all the whores in the gutter and pisps
and get out oi the streets. Stay indoors. Go to drive-in
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novies and drive-in schools, drive-in golf courses, and
stay out oi the streets. Ie said, screw, we're going out
in the streets.
"And so weird is school, huh? Spring offensive;
Harvard, Columbia, and San Francisco State and Berkeley and
in New York in the last three weeks, ten high schools got
closed by kids who say we don't wanna learn that crap. It
aint crap. Huh? History, that's a good course. Schools,
Columbus discovered America. That's out of sight. There
were people here. So what does that aean? How can you
discover a country where there are people living here?
Ho ho and you find out, well, discover neans that a western
white power conquers a non-white, non~western power. That's
what discover leant. Oh, but the Indians didn't write the
history books, and history, like Napolean said, is a
commonly held heliei set upon, set oi lies. When you're in
power, you write the history hooks. You give the math
courses. Ihen I was in school, I learned to sake ovals.
Did you have that up here? These little circles. Io were
talking about that today; I'll never forget - first oi all
they tell you how to sit, like this, right, remember this?
You can never get stoned in that position. They said it
you don't do this, you'll always walk around this way,
right? I never did that, and I don't walk around this way.
I can't figure it out, the liars. They said we'll teach
you how to sake ovals, these little circles between these
two lines, see, and you gotta do it with your whole arn, and
you gotta keep doing this and doing this and doing this and
doing this. I got a Iaster's Degree in this. Ovals. So
what? Had to unlearn it. Unlearn it. Ihen I set the
liberals, I unlearned it damn well.
" Iississippi; arrested once 1.; town in Iississippi
for going through a red light. They didn't have a red light
in the whole town. Threw no in a cell. See, what the other
prisoners said, he's a civil rights worker. Beat the shit
out of him, he'll let you go and give you a pint oi liquor.
And he did. They beat you up outside, see, and then the
Justice Deprtlent cone down, John Doe and all his tlunkies;
liberals say this is terrible, what's happening to you, you
know, you'll be lying on the ground there, yea, right, it's
terrible. They'd say call us up in Iashington. Call us
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collect. You know we'll take care of it. Ie can't do
anything right now cause see, there's states rights and
in this case our hands are tied. Phen. Eight years oi
that. Liberals. Hands are tied. They're gonna have a
hell of a trip with this trial in Chicago. They're gonna
write out a check The Conspiracy, it's really a trip going
up to ., saying, right, oi course, I'a constitutional
law, yea, right, it's ridiculous. law is a police state
iacisa coming in. Iell, give us a check. Well, who do I
sake it out to? The Chicago Legal Defense Committee or the
Chicago Eight? Ho, we're the conspiracy. Oh, my pen's
stuck. That's OK. I got a felt one right here. Technology.
Give his the telt pen, he writes it out. Send it in. He's
a lenber.
"People think there's alot of political repression
going on in this country. They grabbed 21 Black Panthers
in New York. Planning to blow the Botanical Gardens and
Iapy's and alot of other national security interests. Sane
as if Chicago won. You see, they think that's gonna stop
us. They get all these people together. like all these
diiierent iorces are gonna come into Chicago, cosin' to New
York to defend the Black Panthers, cause we don't view these
acts as acts oi repression. Ie view then as signs of a
dying synpton...systen. The emperor's clothes are coming
oii. And we're gonna rejoice. Ihen this trial's over,
we'll dance on the graves oi the systea.
"You aeet alot oi groovy people in a conspiracy.
You oughta start one. Take power into your own hands.
Decide what you want and go do it. Just back from Berkeley.
University leveled a while building - gonna sake a parking
lot. like they're gonna do in Vietnam. Kids ran in and
put sod and lade a park, People's Park; put up swings and
everything, right on the University's property. They look
at that. Ihoo, they're spooked. How they gonna love against
those little kiddies in the wading pool? Sneaky. Sneaky
colnies. You know the conmies, they aren't hiding under
the bed anymore. They cane right up on top of the bed and
we're screwing then like crazy. ie're gonna dance on the
grave of this systea. You try it. You wanna get an education?
Try doing what you wanna do. and then you'll see that cops
cone in. Bee who calls thea. Check out the guys who own
this school. Check es out. Ihat else they own. Coca Cola?
United Fruit, Canada? Ihat do they own up here? They own
you. Try taking it. You know people don't believe that
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come their eight cops put up to balance us eight in Chicago -
they put up eight cops - that's why I wear the shirt. That's
why I wear it in Chicago. See, we're in empathy with those
working men on the force. They're being put up as scapegoats.
Ie offered them our legal aid. People saw that coming in;
the whole world was watching in Chicago. They saw it on
air, it was coming over the boob tube. smash smash smash.
Beatin' up the kids. Ie don't believe it. It's not true.
and they're right, where they live, it's not true. Cop's
a guy that comes by to help them with a flat tire, you
know? Guy come by, Officer, will you keep an eye on the
house? Ie're going to Miami Beach, and we'll be away for
a while and there's alot of violence in the streets. I111
you keep an eye on our house? Oh yes. Thanhs,, Officer.
and they see him on FBI, led Squad, and all the other shows.
They're good guys. Iell, they ain't good guys where I
live. In my block there're twenty cops that patrol it.
and you're a suspicious looking character, which is like
most of us, suspicious lookin', they grab you and throw
you up against the building and they search ya and they
find some flowers in your pocket, you could do one to five
years. You ain't got an ID you get thrown in Jail. Thrown
in Jail for not having an ID? .It's ridiculous. They blow
the whistle, half the hippies turn to cops. It's a
different world; it's a long way from here. I know it's
flat up here, but you got a long way to go to see what's
goin' on in the lower east side. Iar goin' on down there.
"Four days last summer, gunshots, fighting,
Blacks and Puerto Ricans and hippies, fightin' the T.P.F.
cause we wanna live in a society that has human values, not
property. Ie had a party like four months before we went to
Chicago in Grand Central station. I mean, like, eight thousand
kids came. Iidnight, to celebrate spring. We had balloons
and singing and smokin' dope, huggin' and hissin'. I don't know
if you've been in Grand Central Station. Huge, huge, lobby
there, totally filled with people, an absolutely beautiful
eight. Some kids climb up on the information counter in the
middle and took the hands off the clock. The hundred pigs
came in a flying wedge. They learned that in Iotre Dane, whal.
One hundred fifty in the hospital. I got knocked unconscious.
Busted ankle. Friend of mine, Ron Shay, came to my aid,
see, gonna help out? Inked up, threw him through a
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there was talkin' about this story, and people cone and say,
why did they take the hands off the clock? That's all they
could think about. Ten fuckin' lousy bucks, hands on a
clock. Ron Shay got one hand damaged forever. That's the
say society is. Iiddle of Grand Central Station, about
hands on a God damn clock. Did you see that Black Panther
movie? All of a sudden the cops gotta come in, break up
this scene to protect this little square of like, shat,
shat the hell was it? Ihat were they doin'? Did you see
them standin' around there? I just noticed that for the
first time. Here come the cops, sell, OK, they're gonna
bust up the crowd or somethin'. Io. They're gonna guard
this little thing. I don't understand what they're doin'.
They did it at Central Park on Easter. Ie decided to have
another be-in. Fifty thousand people cane out. The cops
came wading in, bustin' everything; I don't know, smebody
took off their clothes or something. That's illegal.
Beatin' the shit out of people. All of a sudden they cone
in with the hoses and they're_guarding this rock. and here's
like fifty thousand kids all around and here're the cops
backed up against this rock and they're guardin' it. and
you kids sender, like, maybe there's sonethin' under that
rock. There's sonethin' under that rock. They sure got
alot of manpower in there. Guardin' rocks and reservoirs
from LSD and zoos from lions, puttin' in the AB! up here.
Ha ha ha. Ha ha. The dinosauer is sinking in the mud. So
long dinosauer. New day is coming. Summer's coming.
Ie'll be out there. Us and the Rolling Stones. Right
there fightin' in the streets. Hops you cone down. I'll
take sose answers. '
"I'm gonna put this guy, Fargo, in the next book
I'm writing about the American Revolution. Very groovy war;
the first one. I'm moving up tso hundred years, changing
it a little. Paul Revere riding a motorcycle, you know,
yellin the pigs are coming and all that. They're all friends
of mine, all those old guys. long hair, freaky anarchists,
called Iinuteaen. I'll put a guy Fargo in there. He'll
do eeeethin' reel clever. !het'e yeur eueetiee? eeestiee}.
The twenty-fourth. Iell, unless thq postpone it. The
Judge, the judge is named Julius Hoffman; he's my illegitimate
father, ah, he's seventy-four. He miiit, you know, he starts
hearing some of this stuff, he might....so so don't knos if
the trial will ever happen. But it's set nos for September
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Sleek Penthers in the streets, and ah, sees other people;
alot oi people plan to come. I ain't plannin' on going.
That's a had town. No, it's net. I dig it. Ie're goin'
to Chicago right after here. I love it. See, we walk
around. You like read the Gallop Polls and your mind
gets all screwed up, cause you like watch that meter and
you say, ah, ninety-eight percent oi the people are
against ya; but you know you walk around in Chicago, and
they really diggin' ya. Bey nan, you're back in town.
It's geese he eet ei sight, yee heee? Eyes eees eig ye.
One cop gave me this shirt, I'm not kiddin.' They like it.
I givethem the book, you know, pass out the book at the
police academy there. Say, hey, your name's in it.
They're all lookin', egotrippers. So I don't know what'll
happen there. Perfect mess. The aediun is the less.
Iarshal HcClue. More answers? Oh, I can't do a thing with
my Hair. Ilot oi Delilahs in this country. I don't know
where they got against long hair. I think back in history,
ell the ireery eats hee leng hair. They, shes yee think
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Iccarthy at all, I aean, was he ah...'! Go clean ior_Gene?
what are you, kiddie? Ie were givin' that, see, many oi
us had been to the Democratic Convention in 1964 with the
Ilsislppl Free and Democratic Party challenge, you see,
and we met liberals there. Iccarthy-type people. Ihen
they eeee eet they sing, ee shall erereeee, yee heee, see
all this and give us money and say, we're with you. we
don't agree with your methods, but we dig your goals; all
that kinda talk, see? well sure, there're racists in
Iississippi, yea, right. lea, sure, these white racists
oughta he kicked out. But we got inside the hall and we
could see all the liberals took their buttons oft and they
weren't singin, we shall overcome. They were listenin'
to IBJ when the calls were around from the ranch. Said,
hehie, settle it, er yee eie't geese he yiee president.
and then we learned that it Just ain't gonna he that way.
Terws like rational discussions and opening dialogues about
the issues. That: baloney. Doesn't work that way, anyway.
People don't get moved that way. You know that ii you
watch TV.
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allowed to travel outside the United States. That was a
funny thing cause like for two days we were thinkin', well,
we're going to Iontreal, see. But I called up the District
Attorney and he said, no, you can't; we don't own Montreal
yet. So I can't go there. I'm goin' hack to the lower
east side. lake some sore garbage.
"qouestion, hos would you like Boreas !ailer tor
Iayor'?! Yea, Iorsan Iailer for layer. I think he
oughta run his Negro said tor Police Commissioner. Oh,
I respect his; I don't love his. I respect his as a
writer. I think he's like second best 8oin.' Ie're kinda
friends but it's ah, he's a lush. He drinks. I lean I
got chromosome damage, so like, we have trouble like
communicating slot oi things. But, ah, Breslen. I like
Breslen better. Jiany Breslen, he's runnin' for president
oi city Council on the ticket, but it's or; I sean,
Iailer's gonna campaign from Austin, Texas. He's writin' a
book called why he should be sent to the soon instead oi
the astronauts. Sometimes I think that's not a bad idea.
But I like his as a writer. He's tine, he wrote, "The
Arsies oi the Night." The book on the Pentagon was super.
I thought it was super. He really had a good understanding
of what happened. That's aaazing he can get that under-
standing even though he's not involved. Sing it out. Don't
you wanna ask a question?
" Question, have you ever been down to Zap?'!
I don't swallow goldfish anymore. Yea, sure, OK. Sounds
OK.
" Question what do you do about these sinor
hassles, like you go to a restaurant and the police cone
up and bug you crazy, hit then hack or aosething'?! They
don't do that, they throw you out. Don they? They always
throw se out. I sean, they try to, but I, see, I like -
sy concept oi revolution is like it happens everyplace.
You know, a cab don't stop and pick as up in New York ~ I
kick the door right in, you know? Like, I went in a police
station about a year and a half ago and they arrested twenty
four blacks, ssoking pot, and I knew that, like we were
having a smoke-in with rive thousand people in Thospson
square Park, you know, and the hippies could do it. And
they were hustin' the blacks and we had to build that
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alliance and ee I seat in and said, let ea ge er arrest
se. They said, we can't arrest you. You're a hippie.
You're not black. You're a hippie. Get out, I's a
nigger. And he sweats, he's sy friend. Captain Fink of
the Ninth Precinct. I Just sent his a card from Fargo,
saying, wish you were here. See, I send out all these
cards. I sent one to sy friend, saying, we planted the
dynamite according to your instructions...Abby. Oh, I!
gonna get in alot of trouble. If I go to a restaurant and
they don't serve ae, I'a ready to burn that fuekin' place
down. And I let ea know right off. I give es a wars-up,
I show es the karate; you dig karate, right, why sure.
Holy shit, he's crazy. You touch Ie, you nether fucker,
you get clap. Just do it, they won't touch ya. They
have a healthy respect for insanity.
"I was busted for not fastening sy seatbelt in
an airplane; it was a hell of a bust, see, but that brings
up the whole thing, you know, of flying. I was at this
drug conference in Buffalo, see, and I was like so high,
I figured I'd stay up there when we went down, any way; so
the stewardess cones up, 'I's the stewardess,_you know,
and you have to fasten your seatbelt.' And 136113, well,
it's against sy religion to tie syself up. She said,
according to the Yederal Aviation Code, number 26748, it is
sy responsibility to guard your life. I said, honey, you
k1ddin'? You have got a hell of a responsibility. I'll
relieve you of that responsibility. ho. If you don't
fasten your seatbelt, the FBI is gonna arrest you in
Rochester when we land. So, like, what do you say, huh?
I say, so, bring es on. She was a liar. It was just
Rochester cops. and then case on and arrested se and take
se down to the station, you know, and get se in the lobby
there and I said, hey, as I under arrest? They said, sit
in the fuckin seat. I said, hey, I'l not under arrest,
I: walkin' out of here, get in an egg crate, goin' back to
Iew York. I know sy rights under the Constitution. You can
take the Constitution and shove it up yourass. That's
called readin' you your rights. Forty arrests, the only
people that ever read alto se was the YBI. They have
wery polite arrests. They're like they're doin' you a big
favor when they bust ya. But the cope never do that. so
we let down to the police station there and we're checkin'
es all out. Ie and sy friend, he case along; he poses
as a Iew York Tiaes writer, see. That always helps cool ea
out. he ain't. he Just a Ilppi. so, ah, we start giwin
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them a lecture. Bey, you guys, you ain't got lace, you
ain't got any armored tanks, you ain't got instant banana
peel. Ihat do you got in this town? You should see what
they got in Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City. This
is a ngthin' town; it's a pushover, so they're all gettin'
real interested, you know, droolin'; we were tellin' ea
how nany kids the cops in Chicago were killing; they're
droolin'. You're a drug addict. Yea, 1's from New
England; I shoot aaple syrup. Ha ha. They said, oh yea,
how is it? I said, sweet. It's awiul sweet. It's awful
sticky, though. Iouldn't like it. Yea, let me see it.
Where do you shoot it? I said, well, you put a tunnel in
your ass. So they're diggin' it. Ie got the Iovie with
us, see, the Yippie sovie. They say, what's this movie?
It's oi an ostrich sleepin' with a woman. They go, oh,
they're runnin' all over, getting a projector. Ie gotta
see this. Ie said, oh no, we don't show it to you. You
show us your's, we show you ours; cause they got stabks
and stacks of the stuff down in the basement. Ihat do you
think they do with all that smut?
"Ihere'd I learn how to talk this way, huh, iron
sy sother? I got a Iaster's Degree. From Berkeley. I
didn't learn to talk that way there. I learned to talk
that way in police stations. I thought I was goin'
hysterical in Chicago, and they say, you're using
ohscenities. They swore - I thought that was hysterical -
at sy trial I was arrested for havin' a dirty tour-letter
word called hate on ay forehead in Chicago. It was part oi
sy security system. I didn't want sy picture in the sass
aedia, see, you..you had to swear at tuck, right, or they
won't take your picture. So I had that and I had a cross
to keep away the waspires. Good for s hike to wear a
cross, good disguise. Bo, the cop testiiied at sy trial;
the Judge says, well, what did he have under his hat? Cop
says, an obscenity, your honor. An obscenity. Ihat was
it? Iell, I don't wanna say it. Bah. You should have
heard his hack in the station house. Iell, I sot cleared
tor that tinally because they didn't have a, they said
there were all these eyewitnesses, hut they couldn't
produce es, see, so it only oiiended the cop's sorais and
11 you only offend a cop's aorale, it ain't good enough.
It's like a loophole in the law, so they threw the case
out. Ht nonetheless, I got charged tor resisting arrest,
see, and I got fifteen days and a year probation still cosin'
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Court because it sounds sorta strange, you know, it you're
not arrested for anything, how can you resist arrest to
it? But, well, you know, Earl Iarren and all his friends,
they work tor us, right? Tell em yea, they work for us.
1heyll iigure it out. !e got sore important things to do.
Any others?
" Question "how do you pay for the lectures"?!
lih How do we pay tor the lectures? ow do you pay tor
your trave1?"! I don't pay for the travel. Oh, that
Ilyin' free thing. I don't know it I wanna like say it.
It's too big an audience. There's some reporters here,
and TWA would shut it oti. That's a good way. I'll tell
you_hou to ily around the uorld tor eighty dollars.. 1
can't use it cause they'll like follow I9 and the guys,
you know, I'd be up for fraud, sure as hell. So I don't
use it, but we get it
"See, iron the ah, iron Chicago, on August 17,
at 4:30 a.n. on Seventh Street and Avenue B in New York
City, we net with a guy who gave us ten thousand dollars
in small bills in a brown paper bag. His name was Spiro
Agnew. !ou know, I went on TY and told that story, see,
and the producer of the show cane up at the end and said,
hey, I don't think the people know the Republicans gave
you all that money. And the moderator said, well, it
certainly helped then; I lean Nixon said and Humphrey said
that that's what hurt his in the election, and ah, it sakes
alot of sense that they would give them the money for that.
And then the cameraman got in, and there was these three
serious guys, snokin'
all out, watchin' it.
"I love TV.
nothin' but boots and
See, they don't teach
how to watch, ah, youit all up. I was Just checkin' fen
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latch it all the tine. I don't know
color TV. That's hou it's done.
you that in college. They teach you
know, you go to church on Sunday,
right, you got Ieet the Press, Issues and Answers, and face
the Nation, the big three. And you watch it careful, see,
you watch the liberals and conservatives talking about the
war in Vietnam. The liberals say, well, ah, we believe in
the right oi aeli detaraination, the people they have a
right and we are doing this, and liberals say, well, and the
conservatives say, well, there's aggression iron the north
and they're supported by Communist China and all this; they
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go back and forth and all of a sudden - Brillo; get some
Brillo. Tea, clean your teeth and wipe your ass. You
wanna get laid, use Brillo, Brillo, Brillo, the best thing
ever invented was Brillo. And then you go back to liberals
and conservatives. Right? At the end'of the hour, nobody
switched, right? Do you think people changed their position
about the war in Vietnam, liberal or conservative? Baloney.
But sure as hell, they bought the Brillo. And so you like
watch it, the Brillo thing. e
"Let's forget about that liberal-conservative
rap and all that rational. Start with a capital letter I
with a period. Prepare it, rehearse it, read it, study it.
Let's just watch how they did that Brillo ad. How did they
do it? Hippie. Ihat the hell's a hippie. All these
people couin' down; sociologists, psychologists, newsman, in
search of the hippie. Ie were on the David Susskind Show,
see, and he brought up the word hippie. Ie took out this
duck and there was a placard around its neck, said hippie.
We threw his in the air. There's a hippie, Dave. Talk to
his. Quack quack quack quack quack. Susskind get very sad,
see, cause he's very verbal, you know, rational guy. Said,
you blew it, the duck's oft. The duck is off. Ie're oft.
Goodbye. So we take the likes oft. He says, oh no. Iell
leave the duck in. You know, but that was tape. Never trust
a liberal, especially when he's on tape. See. So we watched
that show, no duck. No duck. The duck is killed by the
liberal Susskind. And we're watchin', all the references
to duck snipped ut. I call his up the nest day. Hey Dave,
he says, yea, I go quack quack quack quack quack. They
don't wanna deal with that stuii. You know hippie, that's
an interesting word, we said. Io, us never call ourselves
hippie. Ihose a hippie? They invented it. Ob, that's -
clever. Ihy don't we do sonethinf? Ihy don't we change?
that h to a y. Join the y. Bring your sneakers. Yippie.
Yea, that's good nan. That's got slot oi class. Tea.
Yippie. Iell, we need something tor the straights. OK,Youth International Party; that sounds really, oh, that's big
That's really heavy. Ihat's a Yippie? I don t know; he's
goin} to Chicago. That's good enought They Iake it up.
They sake it up. Iedia lade the whole thing up. I got
arrested by the cops; they started.be1tin' ae; I said what
are you hittin so tor? Ihy dealt you get Ialter Cronkite?
And they did. And then they were beltin' all these
reporters. It was out oi sight. They belted Hugh leitner.
They belted Hugh Retiner in the back. wow. They said, oh,
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a little like it.
"Conrad Hilton Hotel, Thursday; cops invade
Conrad Hilton Hotel, go to the iifteenth floor, club
shit out oi all the IcCarthy campaign workers. How,
out in the streets with us. Come on out, gang, lots
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that. And I'll walk out of here, and you'll say good luck,
it easy, dress warmly in Chicago, it's a windy city. All
that nether talk. I got a mother. Ie don't need mothers.
Ie need mother tuckers. Ihat's this szhool like? Ihat do
you guys get to be? Second lieutenants? that do they
teach here? They gotta teach sonethin' besides ovals here.
That's OK. I dig that ilag. Pretty colors. lake a good
shirt. Keeps you nice and warn. Ianna hear a good one?
IVolume eighteen, U. S. Code, Statute 711 - hello, I I
Smokey the Bear. That's six months in Jail. Check it out.
Six months tor that. Hello, I: Smokey the Bear. It's
hard to keep your cool out there.
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