Abraham Brothman Part 54

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COLLINS than picked up the extension and informed 1-ml-IILTOR as BROTH!< L!i listened,that the agents desired to apeak to Hr. BEOTHP-%AH and Miss 92l&#39;3FEO&#39;»?ITZ on a matterconnected with the investigation of E92!IL.JJLIUS KLAUF FUCHS. HAMILTON informedAgent COLLINS as BROThvAK listened, that his advice to Sir. BROJHLlA!{ would bethat he should furnish any and all information in his possession which might .assist the Bureau, and to answer any and all questions truthfully and to&#39;thabaet_.o1&#39; his knowledge. BROTlI1.§A1¬&#39;o business situation at the moment was _orieily.discussed and arrangements were node then to see Hr. nnorseom and lies " 7HOSKOWITZ at the ew York office at 6:00 p.m. that evening with HAJIILT08 5&#39; -  &#39;present. However, as it later developed, BROTHRLMI and EOSKOWITZ went to aceHAIHLTOH prior to 6:00 p.m., end on his adv-ice cane to the office mmecoompeniedby HAMILTON, but with instructions from him to cooperate !u&#39;.Lly with the Bureau.
&#39; snowmen and uosxowm arrived at tho lion Kori: office at about o=25pm} on Hey 15, 1950. Prior to the time that tho interviews with BROTIBIAR *" of &#39;7and l80S!&#39;iO&#39;II1Z_we:-e actually begun, B&#39;RDIHIt92?i reaoserted his urgent busineea .oozmzritmento for that particular day, stating that it was absolutely imperative &#39;for him to travel to Olifhrood, Herr Jersey, that evening after the interviewswould be concluded in order to initiate this chemical operation. he askedthat it at all possible consideration he given by the agents in this regardin order that he could meet this conraitno:-3. and Lhun poasiblgz o-rwe himselfand other individxnits involved financially in the operation son-1 money.
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Gliffwood with BROTITEAEI and begin the second int~.~.rview with him immediatelyupon arrival and/or an econ thereafter ac his Job would permit. However, itwas noceesary for SA COLLINS and SA MURPHY to at-op briey at the Hevrarkoffice to obtain I. message regerdingthe results of the first interview; with _H533! GOLD in Philadelphia. _Therefore, BRO&#39;I&#39;Hl£AH nae allowed to continue on-,_.to Cliffuood, SA cottnzs, $1 Lou-mo»: 0. LFINZ or the Hemrk office, and elf "IIURPHI proceeded to the Ulster Chemical Plant, Cliffvrood, Hear Jersey; &#39; The 
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out all of the files and record.-1 in which tho agontn would bu intcrurtod,BROTFMAH asked. if ho coulrl speak to SA JOPJE R. E.-fY_IP1PI~I1&#39; con£idontiaJ.l,y outsideof his door. ~* &#39;
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BROTHVAH =.!&#39;3vi_:!o-&#39;i that he was enraged by L1-i_r "1:-Lust" at him by ,
}lcOA.Ri-AN and the-.t at tint him: he had con:-v_1to:,% 35:. £!..7-IE.-I-3E¬, hi: attorney,regarding the s.d92*ioo1i1_ity of issuing a public do; i..;1, 1.0 -t.51=: charges as rmdo.-by 92£cCARI¥AH. HMEIL-I025, z:.ccc1rdir.g to BRDTI-FJAH, 1.>i..&#39;1;;¢.&#39;1I92&#39;1irt= out c-i&#39; making sucha denial, assuring him that nothing Iurther would :_&#39;c&#39;:m.:~ of it, that it was justa press roloaoc that mmld be forgotten. BROTFWAT1 advised be had forgotten 
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prior knowledge of any press release concerning BROTiv.&iH by Senator ltct-.&RRMior anyone else, and further that he had no know1.odqo as to the basis for such
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lit. HAMILTON that the agents desired to opcaic to iir. HRUTIIE-AH and iiiee _HOSKOPIITZ in connection with the investigation of EIAIL JULIUS KLAUS FUCHS. _ _In the conversation between BRQTI-MAR and SA JGHN R. HURPHI, related above} Li-&#39;_V _, L-§..{.,B?-0&#39;I&#39;HJ~LiH odvised that he had never been pcreonally acquainted with FUSE,  f ; &#39;that he knee him by reputation in the field oi theoretical physics. __  =._*.~;_ .
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_  Upon returning to HROi?H&£iHe office in the afternoon of Kay 22, .--,f*&#39;1950, and between the hours of 1:00 and 14:00 p.m., BROTHMAIE was interviewedabout HARRY GOLD and his association uith him. He. was naked and apparentlyfurnished ever;-r bit of information in hie pd-ssessiorz regarding HARRI GOLD.
- Upon the termination oi this interview, I4R0Tlil&AhY mm asked if hehad en more problems on his mind, such as he had related to SA AYJRPHY earlier &#39; -in the day, i.e., i¬cCA.RPJ.!-I Committee publicity - and he at-at-ed that he had a Qcouple of othere. He stated that on the evening of Hay 15, 1950 when he ne-ainterviewed in the Nev; Ioric office, he was sitting in one chair at the begin-ni o the interview and was than asked by so HUYPI! to more to another chair ., ng 1 . . vmichactually was e more comfortable chair and P.-IOTF~ih.N ms requested to dothis by SA ii&#39;u&#39;RPh&#39;I in the interest of makirrgz him -1:1 co=;u.or"tebie as possible!.He suspected .! that his picture would be taken -while he nae sitting in thenot chair, and ! that the move was requested in order that he would beplaced closer to e. microphone, which was then 1"¬.Co1din;_-&#39;_ the inter92"iew. - BHGIIIPSAN was then asked what suspicions he "had concerning the interview onHay 16, 1950. nhich actually occurred in a Bureau at-.to:r:ohi3.s perked on the premises oi the Ulster Chemical, Inc. at &#39;G3.i1&#39;£1:oo&#39;.-, New Jcreey. He stated liehad very definite suspicions on that interview, nn.=ne3.y that this interviewno being recorded since he had observed three or four buttons on the dash-board of the Bureau car which he had never eeen on any standard make automo-bile before that date  actually he wee referring to the radio controls!.
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At approximately 12:h5 p.m. on May 15, 1950, SAS JOHN H. COLLINS,THOMAS H. ZOELLER, RALPH F. MILLER and JOHN R. MURPHY arrived at BROTHMAN&#39;soffice on the twelfth floor of the Chatham-Phenix Building, 2928 hlst Avenue,Long Island City. At that same time, BROTHKAN was standing in the doorway ofhis drafting room talking to BERNARD PIDTO, a business associate, who wasthen standing in the hallway. Si MURPHY identified himself to BRTHEAN asBROTHRAN stepped back into his drafting room. This identification was made
out of earshot of PIDTO.
BHOTHMAN was informed that the agents desired to speak to him andhis business partner, MIRIAM HOSKOWITZ, on a matter effecting the nationaldefense of the United States. At this moment, MDSKGHITZ was in the adjoiningroom which has-typewriters and desks in it and is actually the BHOTHMANbusiness office. BROTHHLH&#39;s first reaction to the request was to state he
had an urgent business appointment at l:GU p.m. in Cliffwood, New Jersey.It was pointed out that it was then 12:h5 p.m. and that Gliffwood was somethirty to forty wales from New York City and that he could not possibly makethe appointment. He insisted, however, that he had to get down there to
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BRDTHMAN took the call and asked SA JOHN M. COLLINS to pick up thetelephone extension after he, BROTHMAN, had explained that agents were thereand desired to talk to him on a matter affecti the national defense SAng _ . .
COLLINS then picked up the extension and informed HAhILTON.as BROTHMAH listened,that the agents desired to speak to Mr. FROTHHAN and Miss MOFKCWTTZ on a matterconnected with the investigation of Emil JEJUS KLAEE FUCHS. HAMILTON informedAgent COLLINS as BROTHEAN listened, that his advice to Hr. BROTHHAN would bethat he should furnish any and all information in his possession which might -assist the Bureau, and to answer any and all questions truthfully and to thebest of his knowledge. BRDTHMAN&#39;s business situation at the moment was brieflydiscussed and arrangements were made then to see hr. BROTHRAN and MissMOSKOWITZ at the New York o£ficeat 6:00 p.m. that evening with HAEILTONpresent. However, as it later developed, BROTHFAN and MCSKOWITZ went to seeHAMILTON prior to 6:00 p.m., and on his advice came to the office unaccompaniedby HAHLTON, but with instructions from him to cooperate fully with the Bureau.
BROTHMAN and MQSKGWITZ arrived at ee New York office at about 6:25p.m. on May 15, 1950. Prior to the time that the interviews with BRGTHMANand HOSKOWITZ were actually begun, BROTHMAN reasserted his urgent businesscommitments for that particular day, stating that it was absolutely imperativefor him to travel to Cliffwood, New Jersey, that evening after the interviewswould he concluded in order to initiate this chemical operation- He askedthat if at all possible consideration be given by the agents in this regardin order that he could meet this commitment and thus possibly save hinself
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It was there that BROTHMAN and HOSKOWITZ said they wanted to coop-erate fully with the Bureau and that they would attempt to answer to the best.
of their knowledge all questions put to them. It was thereupon tentativelyagreed that if possible, the interviews would be terminated at about 6:00 p.m.
in order to allow BRUTHMAU to conduct his business. _
The interview with BROTHMAH was begun at 6:35 p.m. and continueduntil 3:25 p.m. BROTHMAN and NOFKOWITZ left the ew York office at_5:3O p.m.,presumably to go to Cliffwood, New Jersey, as they had previously indicated;
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About twenty minutes after BHOTHMAN and UOSKOWITZ left the New Yorkoffice on May 15, l9SO, BHOTHNAN telephoned Si JOKE R. HERPFY and stated thathe and Miss ¥OROWlTZ had non decided they would not 3n to C}ifroo¢, NewJersey, but that eaorrnore 10-old go there early on the n:o:&#39;niF=¢; or Hay 16, 1950,and he wanted to know whether it would be agreeable to Sh HUQPHY and SA "COELINS that he he further interviewed at Cliffwood, New Jersey on U19 follow-ing day. He-was told that this would be agreeable and he was met by SACOLLINS and SA MURPHY at h2d Street and Ninth Avenue at 5:35 a.m. on the
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Bureau car. Originally it was intended that the agents drive directly toCliffwood with BROTEHAH and begin the second intefview with him immediatelyupon arrival and/or as soon thereafter as his job would porndt. However, itI38 necessary for Si COILINS and SA MURPHY to stoy briefly at the Newarkoffice to obtain e message regarding the results of the first interview withHARRY GOLD in Philadelphia. Therefore, BROTHHAN was allowed to continue on .to Cliffwood. SA COLLINS, SA GARLEON C. LEEZ of the Newark office, and SAMURPHY proceeded to the Ulster Chemical Plant, Cliffwood, New Jersey. Thesecond interview with ERGTHHAN was begun shortly after l2:h§ p.m. and wasconducted in the Bureau tar outside the Ulster Plant. Thiw igirrviii vas con-
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_At the conclusion of the Fay 16, 1950 interview, BRGTHUAN indicatedthat due to the fact :at he had to complete a cooplicntc chemical operation,he was than uncertain as to the time when he could be next available forinterview. He assured agents, however, that he would contact them as soon ashe was able to return to ew York Gil? , at which time an examination of hisbooks and records could be Ctnduted and if necessary, a further interviewconducted. The May 16, 19§O interview was terminated at about h:3O p.m.BHOTHMAN did not return to Hen York City until the morning oi Hay 19, 1950.In the interim, however, it was determined by a telephone call to him on themorning of may 18, 1950 that he was still working on the chemical project atthe Ulster Plant in Cliffwood. BROTHHAN was telephonically contacted on the
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morning of may 19, 1950, at which time he stated that ho was physically ex-hausted from having norod long and continuously during the past few days atthe Cliffwood Plant. It was agreed at that tine that the examination of hisbooks and records would be initiated on Monday morning, May 22, l?50, at his
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BROTHMAN arrived at his office on May 22, 1950 at about 9:15 a.m.and appeared well rested and in a rather affable mood as contrasted with hismoods during the prior interviews. After a brief conversation and after getting
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BHOTHMAN advised that prior to Hay 29, 19h? he had never been con-tacted by Bureau agents and that at that time, he was considerably upset by,that interview but that he had recovered from that in a relatively short periodof time. However, in about Juno 19b9, BROTHMAN stated that on a particularMonday morning, the exact date not recalled, he awoke to find that his name "
had been mentioned in the public press by Senator Mcéhih and that in thispress release by Senator hcGARHAN, BROTHMAN was referred to, by innuendo atleast, as a spy. Furthermore, ihe article stated, sccordirg to BEOTHHQH, thgthe had been a member of the Arno? Forces. BROTQVAE stated that he had never
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McCARRAN and that at that tire he had consulted Hr. 1ihIlTON, his attorney,regarding the advisability of issuing a public denial to the charges as madeby Mcihih. HAHIIEOH, according to BROTHMAN, talked him out of making such &#39;a denial, assuring hiw that nothing further would Ccmr of it, that it was justa press release that would be forgotten. BROTHVAN advised he hid forgottenabout the matter as counselled by HAHILTOH. t
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BROTHMAN then inquired as to the purpose of the present inquiry intohis private and business files, after first assuring SA MURPHY that he was nota "spy" as charged by HcCARRAN and also insinuated, after relating the abovestory that he felt at that time  l9h9! that the release of the informationconcerning him to Senator HcCARRAN may have been "engineered" by the Bureau.
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BROTHHAN throughout his conversation assured SA MURPHY that he wouldcooperate in any way the Bureau desired in making available any information inhis possession and in making available his books and records. In denying thathe was a spy or had ever been a spy, BROTHUAN stated that he had never had thetine to be a spy since be was a busy man and had worked eighteen_hours a day
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Whereas earlier in the morning BRCTHHAN had appeared calm andcollected, he had become extremely agitated as he related the above events.In the first place, BROTHMAN was told by SA MURPHY that the latter had had noprior knowledge of any press release concerning BRGTHMAN by Senator hcCARRANor anyone else, and further that he had no knowledge as to the basis for such
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After this conversation between BEDTHMAN and SA MURPHY on May 22,1950, SA COLLINS and Sn HURPHY went to lunch in a restaurant near BROTHHAN&#39;soffice with BROTHFAN. Cut cl the presence of EROTHHLW and during this lunchhour, FA MURPHY was officially notified by telephone by Supervisor ROBERT R.GRAHVILLE of the fact that on that very morning, HARRY GQLD had confessed tointerviewing agents in Philadelphia that he was FUCHs contact in the United&#39;
States.Upon returning to BHOTHMM!&#39;e office in the afternoon of Hay 22,1950, and between the hours of 1=oo and Lnoo p-111., sR0&#39;rnnm was interviewedabout HARRY GOLD and his association with him. He was asked and apgarentlyfurnished every bit of information in his possession regarding HARRY GOLD.
Upon the termination of this interview, PRUTHHAH was asked if hehad any more problems on his mind, such.aa he had related to SA MURPHY earlierin the day, i-e., McCARBiN Committee publicity - and he stated that he had acouple of others. He stated that on the evening of may 15, 1950 when he naeinterviewed in the New York office, he was sitting in one chair at the begin~ning oi the interview and was then asked by SA HURPHY to move to another chair which actually was a rnre comfortutle chair and BHOTHHAN was requested to dothis by SA MURPHY in the intercst of makin: him as ccmfortatlf as possible}.He suspected ! that his picture would be taken while he was sitting in thenew chair, and ! that the move was requested in order that he would beplaced closer to a micrcghonc, which res then recording the interview.BROTHMAN was then asked what suspicions he had concerning the interview onHay 16, l9S0, which actually occurred in a Bureau automobile perked on thepremises of the Ulster Chemical, Inc. at Cliffwood, New Jers¬F- He stated he"had very definite suspicions on that interview, namely that this interviewwas being recorded since he had observed three or four buttons on the dash-board of the Bureau car which he had never seen on any Standard make automo-bile before that date  actually he was referring to the radio controls!. »
- is a last "problemF, BROTHHAN stated that he was worried over thefact,that he might not receivc&#39;his passport for which he had applied in orderto conduct business in Europe during the summer. On this point he was toldthat the Bureau had no jurisdiction over the issuance of passports.
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_ On the morning of June 16, 1950, an attempt was mode to contactBHOTHMAN at 9:00 a.m. at his office at Queens Plaza. Before entering thebuilding, SA RCBERT H. KANE and SA JOHN R. MURPHY observed BRDTHRAN&#39;s carparked in the parking lot across from the Chathan-Phenix Building. Severaltelephone calls were made to hie office between 9:00 and 92E? e,m. No answer
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At about 9:50 a.m., SA KANE and SA MURPHY went to the twelfth floorof the Chathem~Phenix Building for the second time and the office was stillapparently unoccupied and the telephone could.be heard ringing. As the agents -were about to leave the floor, they mot EMIL Z, BARISH who was just arrivingfor work. BARISH was informed that the agents desired to see BHOEHHAH andBARISH then invited the agents into the office. BARTSH celled BHQTHh&H&#39;s wifeat home without informing her that 92e agents were there and ascertained thatBRDTHELN had e business appointment at ?:OD e.m. in New York Gihy, but that hetculd be in his office at about 11:00 a.m. that day. Arrengenonts were madewith BARISH whereby SA MURPHY would coll EROTHhANs office in an effort toreach him directly, and BAHISH agreed to inform_BRTHHAN that the agents
wanted to see him as soon as BROTHMAN arrived.
As SA KANE and SA MURPHY were leaving the elevator on the firstfloor of the Chatham~?honix Building, MIRIAM MOSKGKITE, BRGTHHAN&#39;s businesspartner, was observed waiting for an elevator. She recognized RA MURPHY andMURPHY informed her also that agents desired to roe BROTFQA" for furtherinterview. In the course of hUR?HYs conversation wiih hiss EOSKCWITZ at thatlocation, she volunteered the information in a joculer" fashion that she knewthat BROTHHAN did not know or had not ever heard cf &LFREB D. SLACK, who hadbeen arrested in Syracuse, New York, as an asnocint» of GOLD on June 13, 1958.Miss HOSKGWITZ also told SA MURPHY to telephone BRCTKHAE at around 11:00 a.m.to see whether he was in. v &#39;
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