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RFK Jr.: How to Fix America's Health Crisis (Ultimate Human Podcast)
YouTube video by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODZSAuxTTw). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.
The food that we're eating is not food anymore. It's a foodlike substance that it was manufactured or created in laboratories. It is not nutrient-dense. It's nutrient anemic. And you're not releasing any GLP1. You're not getting any satiation. You're not nutrientdense. So your body's not saying, "Hey, I'm full. I'm satiated. I should stop eating." The tobacco companies, well, they would mimic the taste of things that are very appetizing. They would do it with chemical compounds. And they switched to doing that for food. and they started developing all of these chemicals that hijack your brain and trick your body. Well, we have an agency that stands between us and those people. So those things would never make it into the food supply. The FDA was no longer serving the public interest or public health. It it had ceased being a public health agency. That's the difficult part for an agency like yours to get into the private sector. First of all, the pharmaceutical companies are advertising products that are being paid for by the taxpayer and they advertise all these drugs on television. The person who's going to get the bill for that drug is my agency. There's so much going on in the media and in this Make America Healthy Again movement. What they can expect to see from a public policy perspective. Chronic disease is the destination of most federal expenditures in terms of healthcare. The ideology ultimately of all that disease is Hey guys, this is Gary Brackett and I'm telling you today truly is a very very special podcast. I know very often I'll say this is my favorite guest or I'm really excited to have this guest on. But this particular guest has a very special place in my heart and he's going to have a very special place in your heart too because of the level of conviction that this man has to make an impact on humanity. And by that I mean I don't care what side of the political aisle you're on. We all should be on the side of the future of our children. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is someone I've looked up to for a long time since I really understood his mission. And when you look at the broken health care system in America, we spend $4.5 trillion dollars a year on healthcare. We lead the world in six major categories. Infant mortality, maternal mortality, morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, multiple chronic disease, and a single biome. And I don't think anyone, including myself, knows the exact reason why. It's so multiffactorial. You know, why do we have the highest rates of childhood cancer in recorded history? Why do we have such a parabolic explosion in autism, learning disorders, ADD, ADHD, OCD, manic depression, bipolar, and why are these things affecting younger and younger ages? Why do we have metabolic syndrome which was reserved for people in their 50s and their 60s and even their 70s? Why do we have it in our teenage population now? You know, I' I've raised four children, and I know many of you watching this are parents, and you have to have a concern. What kind of environment, what kind of world is my child growing up in? What's going to happen to them when they get to the public school system? Not how are they educated, but how are they fed? How's their biome being cared for? What is their pediatrician doing every time that they put a vaccine on the schedule? Do they know the safety and efficacy of that? And so today's podcast, I'm recording this intro after the podcast because I wanted to just tell you how impactful it was, how he was able to break down the corruption in our nutritional research and the corruption in our food supply and the influence that big food and big pharma has over our public policy. The policy that determines how your children are fed, how your children are taught, and what our health care system covers and doesn't cover. Why are we so pro-chemicals, synthetics, and pharmaceuticals? And why have we gotten away from things like peptides and whole foods and exercise and vitamins and minerals and amino acids and nutrients, the thing that God gave us to make us thrive rather than the thing that man makes us to make us sick. And he did such a good job of of of describing the dependency that our sick care system has created. You know, sadly, so many Americans, tens of millions of them are dependent on the system. We don't independently have our own health care choices because we walk down the aisles and the food that we're consuming is actually what's leading to the medication that's required to treat the conditions from this causal relationship between food and chemicals and health. And so, I really hope that you enjoy this podcast today. you know, Bobby came to my house to join me at the UFC fights and to talk about some of, you know, what we could do together to help make America healthy again. And I just grabbed him and brought him in the room and I sat him down for this podcast. And it was one of the most authentic, genuine podcast I've ever done because I really felt the intention of this man. And I think you will, too. And no matter what side of the aisle you're on, I think you will draw some inspiration from this because we are about to have a healthier, happier, more thriving America. So without further ado, please welcome Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brea, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today was a giant surprise. I spoke this morning at the Health Optimization Summit in Austin, Texas. Boarded the plane, shot over to here to head to the UFC fights. and I'm joined um by a very prominent figure in the space, the leader and the head of the Maha movement, none other than Mr. Bobby Kennedy Jr. himself. Thank you for coming on the podcast. I'm happy to be here with you finally. I'm happy to have you. We've had like a a really kind of an amazing time so far, you know, with uh with the hyperaric chambers and um uh we basically did some nutritional IVs. Um and then we just decided to come in the podcast room and chop it up a little bit. Um, so there's so much going on in the in in the media and then this Make America Healthy Again movement in this space. Um, I I'd love for you to share with the audience what you are most excited about right now and what they can expect to see from from a public policy perspective, a legislative perspective to, you know, show that real change is coming. Yeah. So, President Trump named me as his Secretary of of Health and Human Services. Yes. Congratulations, by the way. The biggest agency of government. It's twice the size of the Pentagon. It's got a 1.9 trillion budget. Wow. And you know, the irony of that is we spend more on healthcare in this country than any other country in the world per capita. Two to three times what most European countries spend. And yet we have the worst health of any country in the world. We have the highest chronic disease burden on earth and and that as you know bleeds over into infectious disease which has been really infectious disease has been the focus of most most federal expenditures in terms of research. Chronic disease is the is the destination of most federal expenditures in terms of health care. M we have a sick care system in our country and the the ideology ultimately of all that disease is corruption and it's the capture of these agencies are the industries they're supposed to regulate those industries the pharmaceutical industry and the medical cartel have transformed NIH CDC FDA and ultimately CMS which administers medic and Medicare into essentially sock puppets or the industry um and profit centers and they they've commoditized the American public and turned us all into patients. Yeah. Profitable um patients. Yeah. It's been very profitable for them. When my uncle was president, I was a 10-year-old boy and and you know during that era, we spent zero on chronic disease at that time in history. There really were no cure. The first the first treatment for chronic disease was was ironically it was the pill. Yeah. was the first time you took a pill, you know, regularly. Well, the first the first treatment for chronic disease was the pill. What pill? Well, yeah, it was the first kind of long-term treatment that you took over a prolonged period of time. And we spend when my uncle was president, we spend zero on chronic disease in this country. Wow. Today, we spend um today it's 1 point probably 1.6 or 7 trillion dollars a year. It's about 90% of our healthcare budget. And we are we have the highest chronic disease burden of any country in the world. When it comes to snacking, Masa is flipping the script on what real food should look like. Masa chips are crafted with grass-fed beef tallow, one of the healthiest fats on the planet. These chips are packed with essential vitamins like vitamin A, D, E, and vitamin K2. All of which play a role in keeping your skin vibrant, your immune system strong, and your bones solid. But here's the real magic about Masa. Masa's corn goes through an ancient process called nyx stimilization which makes it way easier to digest and it amps up its nutrient profile. 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Haiti, if you remember at the beginning of the pandemic, we were told the poor countries of Africa are going to be devastated by this because they can't get a hold of the vaccines. I mean, Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere. It had a 1.3% vaccination rate. So, virtually nobody got a vaccine, right? They had a COVID rate of 14 deaths per million population. We had a death rate of 3,000 per million population. American blacks had a death rate of probably 3600 per million population. That is incredible. We had 200 times death rate of Haiti. We had 200 times death rate of Nigeria which had a 1.4% vaccination rate. Oh, and there's other reasons for that. Those are younger populations which were less affected by CO deaths. they're out in the sun more and they've got a lot of other you know advantages in that situation but you know there's something wrong with our country Africa as a whole at about 360 there were high morbidity death tied to deficiencies in vitamin D3 um it was one of there there was a direct inverse correlation between vitamin D saturation and uh and co mortality yeah so I mean and we're the only country in the world that has and in history of the world where obesity is al also correlated with malnutrition. So we have you know because the food that we're eating is not food anymore. It's a foodlike substance and a lot of it was that was manufactured or created in laboratories and that no longer uh it's it's like it is it is not nutrientdense it's nutrient anemic. M and you know I was I watched this happen because I was part of the tobacco litigation back in the late 1980s and the tobacco companies at that point were the most cashrich country companies in the world. They were the richest in terms of their cash resources immensely profitable industry and the litigation and the and the advertising that began taking place at that time. What time frame is this? These are the late ' 80s, the early 90s. So the the tobacco industry saw that the writing was on the wall that they were facing regulatory headwinds that their consumers were were were sloughing off, right? And they began to diversify. So and they diversified into the food industry. So by 19 by the mid 90s, the two biggest food companies in the world were R.J. Reynolds and Philip Morris. That is astounding. And they took companies, thousands of scientists that were involved that were whose job it was to figure out ways to create to make tobacco more addictive and more attractive. Mhm. And they switched to doing that for food. And they started developing all of these chemicals that that hijack your brain and trick your body. Well, they would mimic the the tastes of things that are very appetizing and they would do it with chemical compounds intentionally intentionally to to attract your taste buds to uh to to you know to make them palatable and and appetizing and attractive and and your body eats those things but you know so there's a strawberry flavor but there's no nutrition in it there's no strawberry and your body thinks oh I I'm eating a strawberry. I'm craving a strawberry. But you're eating it and you're not getting any of the nutrient and you're not releasing any GLP1. You're not getting any satiation. You know, you're not you're not nutrientdense. So your body's not saying, "Hey, I'm full. I'm satiated. I should stop eating." Uh you're eating, you know, you're it's chemicals, so there's no nutrients in it. And so your body is getting starved and at the same time you're getting fat because you never, you know, you're never satisfied. You know, your body knows it's not being fed. Then they started putting stuff in food to to make it more addictive, like the sodiums and sugars. And they also put stuff in food that deliberately tricked your brain into thinking that your stomach wasn't full. So, one of the things they figured out was that your brain actually gauges the fullness of your belly by by counting the number of times you chewed. M so there's a there's there's some part of your brain that is saying okay if he chewed a certain amount he must be full and so they started putting food softeners into the food. Wow. To make it so that you had to chew less. You know if you eat a Twinkie you don't even have to chew it. You can inhale it. Right. Wow. It's so insane to think that it's that sinister. And I think the the the sad thing and I and I don't mean to derail you is that it's one thing to concoct this whole contrive this whole mechanism of creating toxicity and and chemicals to mimic um flavorings to circumvent satiety and and whatnot. But but I think where it goes lost on the public is they go, "Well, we have an agency that stands between us and those people, so those things would never make it into the food supply." and and and yeah, you know, my uncle Ted Kennedy conducted hearings in 1970 about agency capture at FDA and at that time and the conclusion of that hearing is that the FDA was no longer serving the public interest. It was or public health. It it had ceased being a public health agency. It was now an agency whose primary focus was maximizing corporate profit taking. And uh and you know, one of the and I I can point to a hundred um of those examples of agency capture, but probably the one most familiar to the American public because there was two, you know, big Netflix documentaries on it. One of them called dope sick is the was the opioid epidemic where people from Sackler Sackler family that own Purdue Pharmaceuticals captured a FDA official and persuaded him to eliminate the warnings about the addiction and to say and to say that that oxycodone on the manufactured insert was not addictive. Wow. And you you could argue that as a direct result of that, a million young Americans die. We're losing over a 100,000 young people every year from drug overdoses. And to put that in perspective, during the 20-year Vietnam War, we lost 56,000 American kids. We're use losing double that number every year from opioid addiction and overdoses. That's insane. And and that is a direct result of agency capture and agency corruption. And what you know we're trying to do now at the agency which we're doing is we brought in extraordinary leaders who are now going to do make sure that we do good science, gold standard science, which was what those agencies used to do. Mhm. And that we're going to purge the entire agency of conflicts of interest. You know, I'm all about optimizing performance, and lately I've been using the ion weighted vest during my workouts, and it's been a gamecher. It isn't your average weighted vest. It's designed to fit like a second skin, activating your core, improving blood flow, and even helping you with recovery while you train. What I love most is that the weight is perfectly distributed. It doesn't pull on your shoulders or throw off your alignment. Whether I'm doing strength training or cardio or just taking a walk, I'm burning more calories, building muscle, and pushing my endurance even further. 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We have 40 IT departments, 40 procurement departments and and on and on and um and so we we we're reorganizing the agency to consolidate those things. one to eliminate the redundancy and streamline the agency. Most importantly to redirect and recalibrate its course so that everybody there knows that every day if you want your job you got to wake up in the morning and be thinking how am I going to end the chronic disease epidemic today? Yeah. And so everybody is going to be clear on that mission and um you know we think that we're going to make a huge difference in the first year but over four years we'll be able to correct the course. God bless you, man. And God bless that mission because I think when you become a purpose-driven agency and not a profit, you know, uh, protecting agency and and and I know that these government agencies are not driven for profit per se, but, you know, a lot of these officials move from the public sector into the private sector. It's obvious once you start to peel back the layers of the onion that if if you're a regulator and your responsibility is enforcement of a private industry that you have a known job offer in where you can move from being a government official that's going to make a few hundred,000 a year um into private industry where you're going to make a few million dollars a year. It's hard to not point to that as a conflict of interest. Oh, and seven of the eight FDA recent FDA commissioners have immediately gone to work for industry. Um, the CDC the longest reason the longest reigning recenc CDC director Julie Gerbering who dramatically increased the vaccine schedule and added billions of dollars a year in revenue to Merc went over to become the president or the vice president of Merc. That is a you know and that's typical you see lower level um division and branch chiefs in the agency also you know they kind sort of the common course is that they work at the agency until their pensions vest and then they move on to industry. So the last three or four years that they're at the agency, they're doing a lot of favors for industry and they're letting a lot of things go by because they're about to make that move and they want a soft landing at one of these companies. And their example then drives the it infiltrates all the lower strata of the agency because they see the boss doing this and they think this is the way that it's done for not going along. But there's there's a hundred other mechanisms for agency capture and you know those come from uh appropriations through the congress. It comes from reactions to the press. All the major institutions of our society have been uh captured by the industry. the press now gets uh get you know the the the mainstream television networks and some Roger Als told me one time that 75% of his advertising revenues on the evening news divisions were pharmaceutical ads I I believe that just by observation you know just as you can watch brought to you by Fizer brought to you by fizer if you eliminate big food and and and pharma from from I mean just you know I'll be bankrupt Oh, it would have been scumb you know those those companies are doing that partially because the evening news very attractive to drug companies because young people don't watch news. It's all older people and those are their customers. They're people who are taking all this whole, you know, arsenal, this battery of of drugs, but they also do it to control. Yeah. That's why you see defense contractors advertising on, you know, Good Morning America. Nobody's going to buy, you know, a a tomahawk miss on who's watching Good Morning America. They advertise because they want to control the content. And if you look at, you know, Anderson Cooper or uh you know any of these or Lester Holt or Jake Tapper, their salaries are being their paycheck is being paid by the network, right? But their salaries are actually coming from pharmaceutical companies and they know that, right? and they know that they can't that they got to tow the line and they got to say got to frighten us all about about infectious disease. They got to make us all do the you know comply with the with the pharmaceutical mandates and they're not giving us the real news. They're not asking the questions that they ought to be asking. There's no skepticism. And if you look at these news shows like 60 Minutes or even Anderson or Sanjay Gupta Yeah. from 20 years ago they were saying, "Yeah, there's problems with this, you know, with vaccines or these other drugs, right? They will never do that today." You know, that that to me seems like the that's the difficult part for an agency like yours to get into the private sector and effectuate the the private sector that way unless of course there was some kind of executive order that disallowed pharma from advertising directly to consumer and which do you see a day where that could be a possibility? There's a bad Supreme Court case recently that equated pharmaceutical advertising with freedom of speech and gave it endowed it with a limited first amendment protection. There's still things that we can do and we're working on that. So we think that we're going to be able to do something but I'm not going to talk more about that. Okay. And the issue here that people under understand because a lot of the people who support us are for freedom of speech. You know, absolutely. But this is a very different uh issue because first of all, the pharmaceutical companies are advertising products that are being paid for by the taxpayer. When they advertise all these drugs on television, the person who's going to get the bill for that drug is my agency and the taxpayer is going to end up paying for it. If you if you're selling selling cereal or coke or something that might not be so good for you, at least you know the consumer is paying for that themselves except if they're getting it from the we're going to end that. Yeah. I heard 25 states now have legislation to get uh sodas off of SNAP and some of them are looking at candy and you know other stuff. Yeah. 10 10 billion dollars I heard of the of the 120 billion roughly of the program. So, it's a huge risk for these companies. And you know, I listen, if you want to buy a Coke, you should be able to do it. You're America. You can do what you want. The taxpayers should not be paying for it. This is a nutrition program. And when 10% of the money is going for something that has nout nutrients in it, it's not a good outcome. The other thing about pharmaceutical ads is the company gets a tax deduction on them. We're paying for the ads and we're paying for the product. Right? Most people don't realize this, but your energy, mental clarity, and even your sleep, they're all impacted by toxins. Every single day, you're breathing in, drinking, eating, and absorbing mold spores, heavy metals, pesticides, and even plastics. Over time, they hijack your health. And that's why I created the ultimate detox challenge. As always, it's completely free, and it's happening live June 23rd through the 25th. On day one, Dr. Willby will be here on gut and immune health. Day two, Dr. Jessica Petros on mold, metals, and parasites. And day three is Dr. Josh Axe on full body detox and rebuilding your resilience. And of course, I'll be there the entire time. 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Yeah it's it's fantastic. I mean it's probably safe to say that your popularity uh amongst those some of those agencies has has dropped. Do you Well, I have never been popular with those agencies. I mean the agencies used to do a good job when I was a kid you know um and NIH was the gold standard science agency in the world FDA was the gold standard regulator and in fact there were a lot of at that time this early 60s there were a lot of countries in uh in particularly in Africa and were getting their freedom for the first time from colonial rule and they were writing constitutions and you know none of them could afford to have their own regulators their health regulators or research institutions and so a lot of them said in their constitution if FDA says it's okay then it's okay in our country as well so there was this broad faith in American science and and American regulatory integrity at that point around the world I agree that no longer exists people now are very skeptical of our science and uh and our regulatory agencies and what we want to do over the next four years is restore global faith in American regulator You do that by I mean to to really address the corruption in in nutritional research. Do you do that by actually having taxpayer funded independent research that is what is influencing public policy and disallow the private sector from funding nutritional research especially that would actually have an impact on public policy. One is that NIH science, the NIH has $46 billion that it allocates to science every year and it does that through a grant system that gives grants to 56,000 researchers all around the world, mostly in the United States and a lot in Canada as well. And unfortunately that system has been corrupted through a number of different vectors. So that people who get the money tend to be people who have been approved by the industry through you know a variety of of levers and they are part of an old boys network that knows what they can say and what they can't say and what they can research and what they can't and they're not going to research anything that with results may diminish corporate profits. Right? The other thing is there's no replication. So there's a huge incentive to cheat on your science. So if you if you go to your funer with a hypothesis and say this is what I believe here's how I'm going to prove it and it's going to be an important decision and then the science does not confirm that hypothesis that's science. Yes. When the hypothes hypothesis that's science and ought to be published and it doesn't get published and because it's private funded we can say if it doesn't go in my favor I'm not going to alter it. I'm just not going to publish it. We do a study we'll but the private funding is coming from industry so they cheat I mean we call those guys by ostitutes because because they you know they know what the outcome is and they write the outcome before they write the study in many cases but that also happens in the public sphere and so what we're going to do and it happens because they know there's going to be no replication a lot of times the data sets are private you know you buy United Healthcare data sets they're only selling to you so you can't publish And so there's no replication. And if you know there's going to be no effort of replicating your study, you have a huge incentive to change. Oh, no question. And so what we're going to do is we're going to devote probably 20% of NIH's budget to replication. Every study has to be replicated. We're going to publish the peerreview for the first time. We're probably going to stop publishing in the Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, JAMAMA, and those other journals because they're all corrupt. Mhm. And even the heads of those journals like Marsh Angel who for 20 years was the head of the New England Journal of Medicine says that this that we no longer are a science journal. We are a vessel for pharmaceutical propaganda. No kidding. Because they control the journals. They buy the preprints, right? Which is and they they finite you. If you want to publish in a journal, you have to pay $10,000 to get the study published. So the pharmaceutical company concocts a study that shows the outcome that they want that statins work or that SSRIs work, you know, and then they'll publish that. They pay to get that published. Yeah. And they order reprints from the journal. The pre the reprints, as you know, are a it's a, you know, five or six page document that has the logo of the journal on it. there. They sell them for enormous profits and then they give them to the pharmaceutical reps, you know, hotl looking girls and the you know hotlooking guys who go to the doctor's office, take them out to lunch, give them the preprint to say this product works if you know why don't you prescribe it uh 500 times during the next month and then I'll be back here to see you right with with all these kind of implied promises of what what's going to happen. And that's how this system works. That is justounding. And so what we're going to do is change the system and say you can't, you know, Richard Horton who's the head of of uh the Lancet. Mhm. Who really disgraced himself during COVID with the, you know, the Lancet letter and all this. I remember. Um but um but he says the same thing. He says, "Yeah, we're not we are no longer science journals. We are about promoting pharmaceutical products and that's what we do." So unless these journals uh change dramatically, we are going to stop NIH scientists from publishing there and we're going to create our own journals in health in each of the institutions and they will become the preeminent journals because and they're going to become the pre-minent journals because if you get NIH funding, it is anointing you as a good legitimate scientist. I love that that now our public policy research institutions can actually be the hallmarks of of properly conducted research and and a place that we can actually rely on information. I'm I'm there is nothing I hate more than having to to divert this podcast. I know we we we've got a UFC fight that we're going to. First of all, this was totally spontaneous. You know, you you came to my house today before the before the fights and uh we had some fun biohacking with you and your family. Um, and uh, you know, by the grace of God, you agreed to come in and sit down with me for a few minutes. And I know that my audience in the market really appreciates it. But Robert Kennedy, you you are doing God's work and um, and uh, there are a lot of people in this country that are praying for you and for your success and and you know, praying for you to to stay strong and stay on your purpose and your and your passion and your mission. I I was particularly touched by um your testimony to Congress when you were going through your hearings and one of the comments that you made um which I think just exacerbated your conviction to helping heal America was how you woke up every morning and you dropped your knees and you prayed um for the opportunity that uh God would give you to be in the position that you're in now. Now, here you are and and it's it's a great honor to to just sit across from you and have gotten a moment to ask you a few questions. 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And we're going to end the war at FDA against alternative medicine. you know, the war on stem cells, the war on chelating drugs, the war on peptides, the war on uh uh anything that you know is not going to make music to my ears. The war on vitamins. Yeah. Vitamins, minerals, amino acids, nutrients, peptides. I mean, these things that can humanity. Our position is that FDA has a job which just to do the science on these kind of issues and then tell the public what they've learned from the science but not tell people and not tell physicians what they can and not cannot prescribe. Yes. And that if you want to take an experimental drug that you know you can do that you ought to be able to do that. You shouldn't have to go to you shouldn't have to go to Antigua to get stem cells which I had to do for my throat. Right. and they helped me enormously. Why did I have to go to Antigua for that? You know, we don't want to have the wild west. We want to make sure that information is out there, but we also want to respect the intelligence of the American people. You know, the the the capacity of people who explore the outcomes that are going to benefit them the most. And of course, you're going to get a lot of charlatans and you're going to get, you know, people who get um who have bad results. But ultimately you can't prevent that either way and and leaving the whole thing in the hands of pharma is not working for us. You know Peter Gocha who was one of the founders of the Cochran collaboration the great scientists in the world and you know he just did a um a study recently that showed that the third largest cause of death in this country after heart attacks and cancer are pharmaceutical drugs. Wow. Yeah. Modern era medical era. So, so for people to say, "Oh, we have to be very careful about nutrients and vitamins." It's a sounding and that people may misuse them or stem cells or hyperbaric chambers. Mhm. For people to for you know, it's not the government's perview to tell people they cannot have access to those things because what they're giving us access in the narrow range of drugs that they want to products that they want to restrict us to are not making us healthier. We ought to rely on democracy and the good sense of the American people and the drive that we all have to take care of ourselves and God's gift to us of a healthy body that has its own set of defenses that we need to respect. We had a great conversation about this today, you know, about the greatest pharmacy, you know, in the world is right here and and the power that this has over this. Bobby Kenny, I hope you'll come back and we can continue to to to chop this up when we have some more time. I know we we're we're heading out to the fights right now and Trump's messing up our whole evening cuz he's they're closing the roads on us right before the UFC uh fights in Miami tonight, but uh but God bless you. Thank you for coming on the Ultimate Human. You're very welcome. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human? I mean, I think for all of us, it it means to live up to our potential, the potential that God gave us. And you know, I've said this, you know, a number of times that a healthy person has a thousand dreams. M a sick person only has one and right now 60% of the people in this country have only had a single dream and none of us you know our country cannot achieve its promise as an exemplary nation and the promise of giving everybody who lands here the American dream. The potential to fulfill their own potential if they're all sick all the time. So, I think what, you know, we need to do is to is to dial back, have a healthy population, and then let people make up their own choices about how they want to run their lives. Yeah. Well, God bless you. There you have it. That's the definition of the ultimate human. Till