The Power of Ozone Therapy: Dr. Frank Shallenberger (Dr. Joy Kong Podcast #41)

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The Power of Ozone Therapy: Dr. Frank Shallenberger (Dr. Joy Kong Podcast #41)
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I've been loving ozone therapy and so do a lot of practitioners and a lot of patients A lot of people are using it at home inexpensive 100 safe with a wide variety of applications including cardiovascular disease cancer immune related diseases hello everybody thank you so much for coming to this channel Dr joycom podcast where I can share some of the latest and most profound changes in medicine to help you and enhance your health enhance your longevity and today I have a um a illuminary guest Dr Frank shallenberger I'm so honored to have him here um Dr shallenberger first of all thank you for coming on to this podcast I'm glad to be here Joy thank you yeah so I've known you for quite a few years and you are a Pioneer in the field of uh ozone therapy regenerative medicine so um I think there's a lot of wisdom you can share with everybody and let me just uh introduce you a little bit um to the audience so Dr schallenberger has been practicing medicine for 50 years he's the developer of the prolozone which has become very popular very widespread therapy uh it's an injection technique that has been shown to alleviate pain and regenerate degenerative joints spines tendons and soft tissues he has been teaching annual training seminars in ozone therapy to practitioners from all over the world for 23 years he's also the editor of second opinion medical newsletter and author of the type 2 diabetes breakthrough and busting with energy both of which are in their fourth printing so very impressive Dr has been educating Physicians for a very long time and it's highly respected and loved so I'm just so honored to have Dr Shalom Berger here with us thank you for that nice introduction Joy yeah so um you know I you know I've been loving ozone therapy and so do a lot of practitioners and a lot of patients A lot of people are using it at home you know with the ozoneated water with the ozonated um we're doing you know rectal vaginal or other type of uh you know ear insufflation so there's so much to talk about for ozone because there's tremendous interest um I want to ask you about your journey with ozone how did you even know about it and get interested in it and not to mention bringing it to the US and as you are considered the father of ozone therapy in the U.S so maybe you can share a little bit of your journey well um I think maybe I'll just uh give credit to the whole rest of the world um ozone therapy has been going on for a really long time it's not a newcomer I know for a lot of people maybe especially doctors they're that they you know not aware of ozone therapy but it's been in practice for over 150 years and it was first discovered back in the 1700s and um then later on in the 1800s it started using it as a disinfectant and just so just so listeners understand this ozone is a form of oxygen it's got nothing to do with pollution it's true that in pollution there is Ozone but but ozone's got nothing to do with pollution per se it's just pure oxygen the difference between ozone and the regular oxygen that we breathe is that ozone has three oxygen atoms whereas the normal oxygen that we breathe has two oxygen atoms that third oxygen atom is what accounts for the ozone's unique properties it makes it a highly more uh reactive substance than regular oxygen so as we're going through this conversation this morning uh when I when we talk about administering ozone into patients it's a pure form of oxygen but it's you'll get things happening when you administer ozone to a patient that you would never get by administering just normal oxygen so anyhow back in the uh early 80s uh I I heard about this and in Europe they were doing it had been doing it ever since uh you know the early 1900s uh interestingly enough uh uh um a man that people will have heard of for sure uh by the name of uh uh Tesla uh was the was the uh the genius that in the early 1900s I actually came up with the first ozone uh equipment designed specifically for medical purposes so it goes way back is my point and uh and uh so back in the early 80s I went up went to uh went to Germany to learn about it and I was just absolutely astounded by what I heard and what we can talk about today it's almost hard to believe what did you see in Germany that has sounded you well at first of all was the history the history is phenomenal uh and it goes back to uh you know so many Geniuses that we've we've all heard about um and you start to wonder how how did this thing get overlooked uh and we could talk a little bit about how what the answer to that might be but but anyhow that's one thing that astounded me the other thing that sounded me is the broad application base you can put ozone into any body part I mean literally any body part the only part of the body I have not injected ozone into would be the brain other than that I have put it in every possible place in the human body it's it's very so it's very applicable that way you can apply it in uh to the bloodstream you can use it systemically uh and uh and that's what I learned it was a four day a four day conference and I just it was an eye-opener and I can't I came back home here to the U.S and uh started using it and what I started to realize well I'll tell you a story so here's here's how this worked out so many things that happened to doctors you know we accidentally learn about for doctors and scientists but anyhow so uh one of the things they taught me in Germany was that rheumatoid arthritis uh is caused by a bacteria no no uh I think I think you know most rheumatologists are aware of this this connection but but but they said what you can do is if you've got a rheumatoid patient with a very swollen rheumatoid knee you uh there's that's because there's a German there and you can inject ozone in because ozone kills germs 100 kills everything germs viruses whatever and uh you can inject that in there you kill the germ and the knee gets better so I thought okay fine well as fate would have it uh when I got back to the U.S sure enough some woman walks into the office with rheumatoid arthritis some very painful swollen knees and I told her look I just learned this new thing let's shoot some ozone into the knee and we did that and she comes back in a couple weeks ago oh yeah my knees like way better and then so that so so the but the real tip off was about four or five weeks later her next door neighbor comes in and she says I want you to eject my knee like you did so and so and uh and I said yeah but she had rheumatoid you don't have rheumatoid you have uh what's called degenerative knee you have arthritic it's all busted up and tight knee you don't have rheumatoid and uh uh so I don't know that ozone's going to do you any good at all and uh and I said in fact maybe it'll even hurt you I really don't know this is unchartered territory and so then she says to me so look just inject my knee I don't care if it works I don't care if it makes me worse because the point is they want me they want me to replace that my whole name they don't want me to go in the surgery and place the whole knee so I got nothing to lose so I said okay so we'll try it out so we darn if it didn't work so then my eyes were open I said what the heck is going on here you've got a knee that's degenerated and the cartilage is wasted and the ligaments inside the knees are damaged it's full of fluid it's got blood in there the woman can hardly walk and all of a sudden she gets better what the heck happened and that that was back in like the mid 80s and that started me on this journey to kind of learn what was going on and we maybe could talk a little bit about that but that's that's how I first started to realize you know what this ozone thing causes tissues to heal later on I learned it also takes away pain so even if you have a condition for example that's not correctable uh for example not long ago I had a woman walk in the office with very bad neck pain but she had had uh quite a few surgeries to her neck and the neck was actually deformed from all the surgeries and the fusions and such and I told her look it's impossible for me to correct this but I can take away the pain at least which is for her as far as she's concerned she don't care what the X-ray looks like she just says you know I'm in pain so take the pain away I'm okay and sure enough that's what happened so ozone takes away pain and it regenerates joints and that's a huge thing so how do you think the ozone molecule is doing all this it's a stimulant number one what I subsequently learned is that most uh most a degenerate degenerated areas in the body whether it's the back the neck the knee whatever it is most of them are infected they're usually infected with mycoplasma and this is well established in the literature but they're infected and it's not the usual kind of infection doctors are used to that causes a fever and inflammation it's sort of a sub-acute biofilm type of infection in the knee so ozone gets rid of that so it gets rid of that uh secondly it stimulates and this is all in the literature by the way it stimulates stem cells and it attracts stem cells and it stimulates what we call a chondroblasts which is cells that regenerate cartilage so so the problem the problem is uh that if you look at Chronic degenerative sorts of pains that people have they don't have any young people they're having an old people and and so what's the deal on that you know it you don't have to be too much of a genius to figure out well it's got the older you get you the healing mechanisms in your body your stem cells your blast cells your circulation all the factors that come into to Healing aren't there like they used to be when you're 20 years old and you and you hurt your knee it heals up and you expect it to heal up but when you're 60 years old and you injure your knee on the ski slope you're not terribly surprised to find out six months later it's still hurting it's not healing so what ozone does is it stimulates our natural regenerative healing mechanisms to behave more like they would of 20 30 years ago so you started using ozone with joints right that's when you started and then um how did it evolve over the years say like over a 10 15 year period of time um I started to learn some of these things that I just said uh uh number one it takes away infections and and I've developed the opinion Joy that Garner everything that happens to us that's bad as we get older there's a microbe involved mm-hmm and uh and so once I realized that I said well that may mean that ozone is appropriate for darn or anything that walks on the door so I started thinking about say bladder infections shoot ozone into the bladder clears up a bladder infection suppose by the way it's also anti-cancer so you could take ozone and and use it and inject it in areas where there's cancer and it'll kill the cancer cells I got some great stories to tell people about bladder cancer for example um and so it kills in kills kills microbes it stimulates stems and blast cells it takes away inflammation it takes away oxidant stress and all of those things are what we need to get our bodies to heal better yeah so so you started injecting into various organs and tissues and when did you start to inject into the blood that was something I learned in Germany they but at least since the early 60s so for the listeners we we put a needle in the vein we take blood out in a bag very similar to if you went to Red Cross and you were donating blood same idea so your blood comes out into the bag we then inject ozone which is a gas it's oxygen so we inject the ozone into the bag move the bag up and down mix the two together the ozone is instantaneously reactive so basically it's going to take that blood with all the various very interesting cells in that blood and it's gonna react with those cells in such a way that they're changed and we Infuse those cells back into the body it's a closed system but it goes out ozone goes in blood goes back in very simple pretty quick uh you can do this in is as short as like 5-10 minutes and but when that blood goes back into the patient's body of course it's blood it's it's treated blood now but it's blood and it's going to go everywhere it's going to go on their brains going to go on their hearts it's going to go on their liver left ankle whatever it's going everywhere and that treated blood has some very interesting properties to it and stimulates all kinds of interesting things but most of the kinds of things I just talked about it'll get rid of oxidant stress revs up antioxidant enzymes kills any microbes can disable cancer cells it stimulates detoxification in the liver it reduces inflammation and as as you know as listeners are hearing me rattle off all these effects of ozone if if they're thinking to themselves that can't possibly be true one molecule can't possibly cause all of that stuff to happen then they would be thinking they would they would be thinking what what would normally be true yeah I mean there's no molecule that I am aware of outside of ozone that has that many properties but they're all well documented and the stuff really does work as advertised right and ozone is naturally produced by the human body correct that is true and that's a good point and that was shown in uh 2004 at Scripps University where uh what happens with our immune systems uh is that we have an antibody the antibody goes out and grabs on to say a virus it'll grab onto that virus and then it's going to haul that virus into a macrophage cell which is an immune cell that will kill the virus uh but um in order for that system to work when the antibody grabs onto the virus it has to neutralize the virus because if it doesn't neutralize the virus and then hauls it into the macrophage now the macrophage is infected and it'll and there's a good likelihood it'll kill the macrophize so that so the antibody has to neutralize the virus and it neutralizes it with ozone it actually produces and releases ozone once the virus is neutralized causing the macrophages and then the rest is history yeah amazing yeah that must be pretty exciting when you saw that uh the antibody was able to produce ozone molecules yeah because you know most people think ozone toxic and if in fact if you go into the Library of Medicine and plug in Ozone probably 95 of everything that you read Lisa used to be this way is is about how toxic ozone is to the lungs and how bad it is to breathe ozone and this and that uh and that's just no no reality to that at all but that's mostly what you see I see it and is it true that ozomolecules also can make red blood cells more pliable yeah so it's exceedingly good for circulatory problems hmm so you have the substance here that number one is cheap it's pennies to make ozone it's nothing it's almost nothing so you got a substance that's extremely inexpensive you got a substance that when used properly is entirely safe there's like nothing ever significant that can go wrong with anybody ever inexpensive 100 safe with a wide variety of applications including cardiovascular disease cancer immune related diseases infections injuries pain I mean how can you go wrong it's really astounding when you add all this together and look at it and there are many countries in the world where it's a accepted part of medical treatment right yeah that's right so uh it's certainly in Germany which is where a lot of this was originally developed uh certainly in Germany uh definitely in the Middle East all throughout the Middle East uh also uh all in a lot of areas in South America uh it's it's all over the world it's very big time in China China does a ton of research on ozone therapy right I think they they've got so many people and they definitely what would be smart enough to use something that's cheap and effective and I think also in Russia it's also part of the map yeah that's true too in Spain and Italy that's my my impression that's absolutely true yeah in those countries it's actually covered by their health insurance and in this country that's not true so why do you think there has been such a vehement opposition to ozone therapy at least uh from the the medical uh establishment well okay so the medical establishment was controlled by Pharma and Pharma has has worked with the government to ensure that anything that's cheap and inexpensive that could uh could could actually work really well would be absolutely impossible to patent you couldn't patent it so they've arranged so the legal system here in the United States is such that in order to get ozone approved by insurance companies including Medicare uh you would have to you know Pony up like 20 million dollars worth of of research data to get that through because they won't accept the research data that's already published this country will not Farmers arrange it so this country the uh the the organizations this country will not honor research outside the U.S and we have 4 000 papers that that are published in peer-reviewed respectable scientific journals but those are completely 100 overlooked because they're not published here in the United States very few of them we actually have a few pubs here in the United States but it's not adequate to meet all the criteria that Pharma set up with the government and so there's no way it's ever going to get approved here in the United States unless somebody comes around changes the law it's just not going to happen that's okay we can use it but you're just not going to get insurance to pay for it that's all I see I see so um I mean the the use has been I think it has blossomed I mean you've been doing this for decades uh what do you see in the changes of how much ozone has been accepted uh it's it's really remarkable um when I when we first actually I started teaching this alert like I said I learned about it in the 80s and then towards the end of the 80s you know I thought you know people need to know about this there's two darn many people suffering from conditions that I can clear up in a heartbeat with ozone and and people need to know about this I'm not because I'm not going to be the only guy that knows about this so so starting in the early 90s I started teaching doctors uh the first class I had we had a total of six doctors there and uh Zoom that went too big but you know nowadays we do three classes a year we limit it to 80 doctors on each class uh it gets sold out typically within two to three days and people call up and they're all upset and I said you gotta wait till the next class blah blah blah but but we now have thousands and thousands of doctors all over the US and in fact we get doctors from all the rest of the world that have come and learned all this kind of stuff yeah um and yeah so now there's just like lots of doctors in and joy one of the things that was so interesting to me is that um you know as a physician you know the listeners should know that us doctors we need to uh do continuing education units uh every year or two in order to maintain our licensure and uh so so about two years ago I'm I'm doing that and I went to an orthopedic seminar just to hear what you know they were going to teach there and darn if one of the lectures wasn't about using ozone on knees and in surgery and so yeah so even two years ago it was it's starting to get mainstreamed the only thing that's holding it back literally is the fact that the system is so heavily invested in surgery and and it would get rid of 80 90 percent of surgeries you know all these surgeries that are done on knees and shoulders and necks and backs gone most of them are gone with with uh and that's been published by the way most of them are gone with uh with ozone therapy and uh so that's one of the things that holds it back and of course the other one is that uh while the insurance company will pay for a fifty thousand dollar knee replacement they won't pay for a like a two thousand dollar ozone treatment that fixes the knee in the same way right right yeah so when when you inject lzone into a joint do you get some kind of inflammatory reaction initially do people get possibly exacerbation the pain or swelling like what have you seen well when I learned in Germany um what you do is you just take a needle put it in the knee shoot ozone in and when I say knee that could be ankle it could be finger it could be shoulder whatever um and you shoot the ozone just the Ozone gas in and the knee gets better uh after I did that a couple few times I realized it hurts like heck ozone is is a little irritating so you put that into a need that's already irritated it hurts like heck so then I got to thinking well if it were my knee getting ejected I think I'd want to shoot some novocaine in there first so at that point I had already studied in Germany and learned about this treatment called neural therapy neural therapy is another form of treatment for pain which involves injecting novocaine into areas of pain turns out that novocaine uh although everybody knows it as a local anesthetic the dentist would use uh to do what they're going to do it also has the property of healing it has a very healing property to procaine and it was what does what we call stabilized damaged membranes which is part of the reason things won't heal because the membranes are damaged so I thought to myself well look why don't we put some procaine in or some novocaine in there it'll stabilize the membranes and it'll numb everything up so that when I shoot the ozone in it won't hurt and that was and so I started doing that and that's I I started calling that prolozone I see uh uh because of the the procaine and the ozone so we started putting those together and then after a while I started realizing you know if I'm going to be injecting protein which is a liquid now so the needle goes in we inject the liquid I switch the needle stays in I switch the syringes shoot the ozone in then pull the needle out I thought as long as I'm injecting a liquid what other things could I put in there that might help and that's been a transition over the last 20 30 years where we've you know gradually learned that putting a little glucose in there works really well putting some B vitamins in there particularly thiamin works pretty well putting some trace minerals in there works well there's some anti-inflammatory homeopathics and so basically I created this sort of recipe if you will it's like making soup the the the the key ingredient is Ozone but these other ingredients uh make the process better so it doesn't hurt at all in fact people will come in they'll have pain for the last 20 years when they leave my office the Pain's gone this is typical this is very typical It's Not Unusual yeah so they get immediate response and then it stimulates the healing and it even works better than the ozone by itself I see amazing so so you would inject the ozone and then you inject the rest of your recipe yeah so now now I've evolved to the point where this is what's common uh I'll inject ozone in there and in using this technique with the procaine and the vitamins and shoot the ozone in there then I'll bring them back in a week and uh once I've prepped them with that I'll do the same thing again and I'll put in what's called platelets PRP these platelets which have growth factors in them so I shoot the platelets in there then I bring them back in four weeks now very often when they come back in four weeks they're completely well that's the end of that wow done deal walking normally no limping out doing whatever they want to do dancing skiing whatever they want to do everything's just fine uh but if they're not um at that point uh I'm probably just going to shoot some stem cells in there because what's going to happen is prepping that knee is going to make those stem cells work a lot better and uh you know the audience should understand the stem cells are expensive uh that's just the way they are and so you don't want to waste them you want to make sure you get the most bang out of your buck on these stem cells and I've found that if I pre-treat with this ozone technique I get really much better results with everything else so now I've got procaine mixed with all that stuff I've got ozone I've got platelets and then stem cells I mean there's like nobody ever gets sent to surgery it just doesn't happen the only action the only time my patients ever what go get surgery is when they say you know what what you're doing is as expensive it's not covered by my insurance company so I'd rather go get the thirty thousand dollar surgery since it's covered by my insurance company right yeah that's the only reason they go to the surgery because I like pretty much 100 of the time we're going to take care of this yeah amazing and I know there's a a bit of a different approach when it comes to injecting ozone and mixing with the blood so there are two camps and mainly I think one is the to draw the blood out and mixing with the blood you can do it in just regular you know one past system or the popular temp pass but the other way you know per you know that's um promoted by certain doctors actually inject the Ozone gas directly into the bloodstream and and I know that you are not a big fan of that um so and maybe you can explain a little bit you know why why you don't think that's uh you know the best approach although definitely some practitioners swear by it yeah there's no doubt that it works okay it does work it just doesn't work very well but it's very clear that it works I think a lot of practitioners uh are excited by the fact that it's a lot simpler procedure I won't say it's a lot simpler it's just simpler and so you just put a needle into the vein take a syringe of Ozone gas and very slowly inject it into the vein yeah and and uh you know it's going to create little embolisms it's going to create some irritation to your lungs you're going to start coughing you'll get a rapid heart rate uh and such like that you go slowly slowly slowly you don't get as many of those things uh there is some one complication is if you happen to have a patent what they call a patent arterio ductus there's a little hole between the hearts if and it's quite common something like 15 of people have this it's a hole between the two Chambers and the heart if if you have that and one of these ozone bubbles gets through that hole into the other side of the heart and go to the brain and kill you so so the only time we have ever seen anybody die from ozone therapy is using that technique um that that technique is is has a certain amount of danger to it and uh and it's it's uncomfortable and it's kind of time consuming and it's very limited on how much ozone you can give normally you couldn't give more than say two milligrams of ozone uh and but using that technique it's just your body can't take it uh on the other hand if we use the proper technique the one you mentioned where you pull the Blood Out treat the blood directly and then put the treated blood back in you can use 400 milligrams of ozone you go from two milligrams to 400 milligrams and and in many cases diseases are not fixed adequately until you get to the higher Doses and you can't do that with that technique so the American Academy of ozone therapy really discourages and in fact we we forbid our members to use that particular technique because it's way less efficient there's a certain amount of danger and it's uncomfortable and it takes a lot of time because the doctors got to sit there in order to get that two milligrams in he's got to sit there for like maybe 20 minutes and very slowly inject the gas in because you can't put it in too fast so you'll knock the person off um so it's just not a good way to go it's not it's not efficient okay yeah I've heard some of you know um thoughts on this by some practitioners that they think that it you know injecting directly into the bloodstream allows a more Dynamic exchange that um that you are able to you know over the time maybe of half an hour you're touching the entire circulatory system instead of just a portion of blood that you were able to mix well that's just not true um you're still you're still when when the Ozone gas gets into the blood it is going to instantaneously react it doesn't circulate throughout the body it instantaneously reacts with the blood just like it does in the bag and so that that's just not true uh the bag you put in the blood in it's going everywhere if you shoot it in the gas it goes it treats the blood that blood goes everywhere so it goes everywhere no matter which technique you're using the point is though if you do it correctly by treating the blood correctly instead of getting this much ozone in the body and in the blood you can get that much ozone in the blood and finally and the dose does make a difference you get higher doses you can do things that you can't do with these tiny little doses uh that some of these doctors use yeah okay so what about the other methods you know people are using um ozonated water ozonated oil and then they are doing years insufflation or vaginal rectal uh methods what what uh what are your thoughts on first of all like ozonated water okay so you can ozonate water uh and when you do that means you bubble in the Ozone gas you're bubbling it through water so imagine a glass of water with a little bubbler at the bottom and you're bubbling the gas through the water and as that's happening uh what's the gas itself is getting trapped in the water so it's analogous of what happens to a soda pop so in a soda pop you have CO2 gas trapped in the water now if you UNS that's under pressure in there so if you unscrew the top of the bottle that CO2 gas is gradually going to come out of the liquid it might take what two hours or something and then you go back and you taste and it's flat meaning the CO2 is you know evaporated out of the liquid ozones like that when you ozonate water the ozone is actually in the water now you have to drink it right away because if you don't drink it right away the ozones and you let that glass sit there for half an hour the ozone will come out of the water saying and and quote turn flat if you will but once you bubble the ozone through the water you got actual Ozone gas in that water so then you drink that water and you just drank Ozone gas now it's going to get into your body primarily right through your uh your stomach but it'll also get into the small bowel and when it's in the stomach and in the small bowel if there's any bacteria there and that are undesirable anything not quite right there it'll kill it in a story the other thing is that gas will get absorbed into your bloodstream and so it is a way to treat the blood and the entire body by drinking it not nearly as powerful as treating blood directly but really easy to do and this is something that lay people can do at home uh The Listener should know you can go and buy your own ozone generator and treat yourself and your family and probably get rid of half the trips you need to go to ever see a doctor so viruses it's a it's a it's the death sentence the viral infections so you have that at home you learn how to use it you start coming down with a cold or flu or one of your kids does or something like that you can knock it out with the ozone and I'll just give you a little plug I wrote a book called the ozone miracle I can get it on amazon.com it and uh it's also available on Kindle so that book is specifically written for Lay people for two things one is how they can use ozone at home on themselves and their family and two is uh explaining to them all these the wonders of all these things I've been talking about about how well it works and what the mechanism of action is but yeah so you can take you can that's one way to get ozonian is bubble it through water and drink the water you can also bubble it through water and give the water intravenously oh yeah and you can get way higher doses yeah you can give way higher doses than yeah than drinking it I see and it's directly into the bloodstream yeah yeah I've seen people I mean practitioners doing that yes donate the water I mean the IV fluid yeah so what what's handy about that is sometimes we have patients come in and their veins are no good yeah uh and uh you want to give them a blood treatment uh but you can't really but if you put in a port or a PICC line or one of these other ways to access the vein you can very easily do uh ozonated water through those ports amazing yeah and uh you know people may ask if you let's say you drink ozonated water and it's going to kill a lot of the bad microbes but what about the good microbes the probiotics and is is it going to hurt them it's so fascinating uh healthy cells uh and what we would call Friendly bacteria know how to deal with oxygen oxygen is actually a toxic substance uh and so for listeners to understand yeah every time you breathe you're breathing in a toxic substance it's called oxygen uh and uh now obviously it's a relatively low level of toxicity but it's still a toxic substance uh but that's okay because our cells in our body have the ability to deal properly with the oxygen it's not toxic to healthy cells but to unhealthy cells cells that are infected cells that are toxic cells that are turning cancerous cells that are cancerous they can't deal with the oxygen it will kill them it'll eat the healthy cells alone in fact it'll do better than that you always want to make the healthy cells stronger while at the same time differentiating and knocking off the unhealthy cells it's it's fantastic that way and if the same thing is true for the bacteria so if you want one of the ways to treat livers like liver disease is to put Ozone gas into the rectum like you would an anima for example and uh and so so you would think oh if I put the gas in there it's going to kill all the bacteria in there no it doesn't it only kills the bacteria that can't handle oxygen and those are always the pathogenic or bad bacteria the healthy bacteria can withstand it amazing that's fascinating so um maybe we can wrap up by talking about some of the you know the range of cases you've seen that um that people have really benefited from you know the ozone therapy and probably some have really surprised you maybe you can share some of those examples well I'm constantly surprised I've only been doing this for what 40 some odd years but but I'm still amazed it's hard for me to believe that uh that somebody would have say in regenerative medicine somebody would have a problem for so darn long and and I'd come right along and fix it in a matter of weeks or months it's just it's astounding to me um so we talked a little bit about the regenerative aspects but some of the other aspects that are amazing well the first thing that comes to mind is viruses it's a slam dunk and yes ladies and gentlemen for the more recent virus that has shown up that is quote kill lots of people um 100 treatable 100 never never have a problem any virus any viral infection that comes along 100 why is that it's because all viruses share the same issue and that is they cannot tolerate the oxidizing stress of ozone period and the story at the same time it's killing virus it also activates the immune system in a special way and for anybody that's a listener that knows about this I'll just I can just say that it it activates th1 immunity and deactivates th2 Immunity which is exactly what you want to do to knock out viruses so it not only kills the virus directly it also kills the virus indirectly by modulating the immune system so that it works better because as everybody knows if you get infected with the virus it's not a problem unless you have a problem with your immune system so you got to fix that immune system and that's ultimately what's going to cure you and ozone can do that it's just great for cardiovascular disease Joy I can I can promise if somebody walks in my office and says you know I've had four stents and the doctor says I need another stent uh I've got cardiovascular disease I have this bad history I've got angina I can basically slam dunk from me I love these cases I just give them some intravenous those home we do other things of course but uh you know the the ozone absolutely takes that that out of it won't clean up the arteries so if your arteries gunked up uh it won't degunk your artery but what it will do is it will make the heart cells and the uh and the arterial cells the cells that align the arteries secrete more nitric oxide which means they can utilize the oxygen they are getting better most of the time that uh the the patients have cardiovascular disease it's not just about the plaque blocking off the flow it is about that to a degree but it's also about the tissue itself not being able to utilize oxygen efficiently and that combination of not being able to utilize oxygen efficiently along with having fewer less oxygen getting there is what gives you the disease we can't take the plaque out but we can fix the cell so that the amount of oxygen that's getting to the cell the cell can use 100 percent and basically take away the problem so you can use it along with a stand you know there's no no if if you got somebody that's seriously yell and actually needs a stand there needs a bypass surgery fine uh you know pre-treedom with ozone before they go have their surgery or their stent do that for about three or four weeks so that the cells are great they'll heal great and uh and uh and then the surgery will work a lot better okay wonderful so we talked about antiviral cardiovascular condition we you know covered probably all kinds of muscular skeletal issues yeah yeah and then ligament um even bone bone issue right you've had yeah you know we you can eject it into fractured sites uh a lot of the time somebody will come in with a say a cracked humeral head shoulder a bone and they've had a fall and it's been cracked and they're in pain they can't hardly move their shoulder I can shoot ozone into that joint and make it heal twice as fast it reminds me of a guy that came out from Texas once and he calls me up and he says you know what I had shoulder surgery for a rotator cuff injury a year and a half ago and uh it the problem was that that the The Joint got infected as a result of the surgery and ever since then I've been on intravenous antibiotics to try and kill the infection I've had two or three more surgeries to kind of clean everything out and now I'm a year and a half down the line not only is the shoulder continually infected it's now going down my arm and they're telling me I'm going to have to amputate my entire shoulder and arm so this is a dramatic case and I said well look you better get your butt over here and let us work on you so he stayed up there for a good uh I want to say four or five weeks and we put ozone every place put into its blood put it into his arm put it into his wrist put into his skin obviously inject it into her shoulder over and over again long story guys perfectly well yeah after six weeks he's perfectly well he suffered for a year and a half the doctors didn't know about ozone they didn't know that about this not it's not not their fault so much they didn't know about it I fixed him in six weeks I'm not a genius it's not that it's just that I happen to know that this stuff works right and the sad part is when he goes back to the doctor the doctor May say oh okay well good for you and that will be the end of it and they are exactly the doctor never called me up and said my goodness what the heck did you do that's that's not the way the system works folks if you think that system is out there for your benefit understand it's out there for pharma's benefit it's out there for the insurance company's benefit the politicians benefit wherever you want to call but it's not there for you necessarily you might be uh you might be down the line a little bit but it's not really there for you yeah the sooner people wake up to that fact and stop you know worshiping the words of uh their doctors and that's you know and that's in the traditional um you know Loop you know it's it's really a yeah a very self self sustaining Loop unfortunately not for the best outcome for patients that's well said that's exactly right yeah yeah and what other systems um have you seen benefits in you know I really you know when you have cancer especially if you have the later stages of cancer um it's almost impossible to fix uh and but ozone should be 100 of the time it should always be used along with surgery radiation and chemo because when you do that the following is going to happen one you're going to improve your chances of survival by about 30 percent it doesn't sound like a lot it's not a hundred percent but thirty percent is better than what we now have which is three percent so you're going to have 10 times better results statistically speaking when you combine those therapies with ozone the second thing is that because they enhance your healthy cells and chemo and radiation kill your healthy cells it preserves the healthy cells so you have way fewer side effects one of the more common side effects from radiation and uh chemo is infections it knocks out the immune system and you get an infection infection could actually kill you a lot of people with the late stage cancers don't die from the cancer so much they die from some sort of infection that was induced um from the the treatments the radiation and or the chemo but also since it's such a marvelous stimulant of the immune system even in the presence of the chemo you don't get the infections you you literally don't get any infections you um you get way fewer side effects and you get a much better outcome so that it really ought to it's a it's a crying shame that every oncologist in the country doesn't incorporate this with their patients and I would encourage all the listeners if you have cancer find a doctor in your area that does ozone therapy so that while you're getting your treatments uh from the oncologist you're also getting the benefits of ozone to combine with that and uh good story so a guy comes in to see me he's a VA guy uh and uh he's got a squamous cell of his throat and and he goes to the VA and he says uh you know they want to radiate me and they tell me if they radiate me I won't have any saliva left the likelihood is pretty good my teeth are going to fall out and they might fry my esophagus so that I can't swallow and and he says well what should I do and I said well you know what the radiation is very effective for the cancer uh so you're going to have to do the radiation but let me treat you with ozone at the same time and you're going to have way less chance of those side effects happening so that's what we did and at the end of about six or nine months his oncologist tells him he says uh Fred you have done so much better uh than most of my patients in here uh you you you you still have your saliva none of your teeth fell out and you never really had any problem with swallowing the whole time we're just amazed at how well you did so I want you to talk to my other patients and explain to them what a good job we do okay so Fred tells him he says I will doc but you gotta understand the same time you were giving me this I was seeing shallenberger over there and I was getting those on therapy and that's why I did so well yeah so I'll be happy to talk to him but I'm gonna tell them what happened and his response of course was well in that case you can't talk to him oh my goodness oh no kidding true story true story Fred Fred never got to talk to him that's sad yeah so that's so oncology is uh is a huge aspect of what it's good for uh and you know it can be good for like colitis you can put ozone in the rectum for colitis Interstitial cystitis is a terrible disease that's mostly limited to women that uh completely messes up their bladder their sex life uh very often they can't sleep it's just a disaster there is no treatment for it at all except for one pill which doesn't work very well and only has the minor side effects of causing balding you lose your hair and and you get macular degeneration from it so so there's really no good way to treat this those are almost 100 on it do you inject directly into the bladder yeah direct those home straight into the bladder wow yeah so there's there's so many uh so many ways that you can use this stuff that's why why it's so cool if you came to my office you'd see ozone all over the place got General we got about 17 generators in the office all over the place and all the and all the exam rooms we got ozone saunas we got those on colonics we got ozone in the bloodstream because it was on Saline you're drinking ozone it's it's all over the place because you know kind of the more you pile it together the better it works okay so you I know ozone sauna has become fairly popular you think there's some added benefits to doing it through the sauna route I think that Sonic can be really helpful it's certainly good suppose you want to treat somebody uh that either one is a little kid and doesn't want to be stuck with needles or two you want to treat somebody that has no Advantage you can't get to their veins the veins have been shot for whatever reason um so how are you going to get get them a nose on treatment well one way to do it is with a Sonic because it gets absorbed through the skin yeah and this is especially good if you have skin disorders like atopic dermatitis or psoriasis one of those it's especially good for those because it's going to hit the skin but it'll also get in it's a systemic treatment it's very good at enhancing the immune system for example so a lot of the times when patients are getting treated with from from uh by me say either with cancer or with some um bad systemic autoimmune disease or something like that they're going to get treated from their blood they're going to get treated in their rectum and they're going to get treated in the sauna we're coming at them every which way wow we get better results when we throw all that stuff at them wonderful amazing so where can people find you to um to get some of your magic combinations of treatments we'll give you a couple of resources here for the audience uh number one if you find a doctor in your area go to the American Academy of ozone therapy website um and there are the the doctors that are all listed on that website have all been through the whole training they've passed certification examinations they've done case studies and these are people that really know what they're doing and so that website is a-a-o-t American Academy ozone therapy aaot.us and hopefully you'll find a doctor pretty close to you to um learn more about it you can go on Amazon and plug in my name uh uh shallenberger and uh you'll see there's a number of books that I've written you can go to YouTube and plug in ozone therapy and you'll learn a ton not just from me but there's a lot of people that have put YouTube stuff up and uh if you want to learn a little bit about what we're doing in Northern Nevada you can go to my website which is pretty easy to remember it's anti-agingmedicine.com antiagingmedicine.com and you go to the website there's a lot of information on the website and we tell you how we treat things and and how the body heals itself and all that stuff yeah amazing thank you so much thank you for bringing this to all the people that are in need in the US I you know I can't imagine how many people's lives you've saved and improved what a contribution and thank you for your courage and your conviction and uh I I love going to your conference and learning from you and we'll continue to do so so thank you so much for a great episode I think we are clearing up a lot of you know aspects about ozone therapy I think people are going to find this super helpful good good great joy thanks for putting it on yeah thank you thank you for being here [Music]