EXPLOSIVE Charlie Kirk Case Update; Brian Harpole's and Mark Amodei's First Alibis Fail - #34

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EXPLOSIVE Charlie Kirk Case Update; Brian Harpole's and Mark Amodei's First Alibis Fail - #34
YouTube video by Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyLxv3sg0fE). OPINION COMMENTARY by Baron Coleman (Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast)) — one commentator's contested analysis of the Charlie Kirk assassination and the State v. Tyler Robinson prosecution. These are his own assertions and theories, NOT the court record, NOT established fact, and NOT endorsed by profoundd; some make unverified allegations about named individuals. Archived here, attributed and lane-separated as commentary, so the claims can be weighed against the primary record — the tyler-robinson-trial hearings and filings in this same collection. Inclusion in this archive is not evidence of truth.

Here we go, guys. Um, I actually got nervous tonight. I normally don't get nervous before I go on air. Tonight, I actually got a little nervous. So, I hope you'll bear with me. And I'll tell you why. [clears throat] It is very rare, very, very rare that I yield to the masses. Typically, I have an arc. I know I'm following the ark. And I go on the ark and I don't get off of the ark. I'm taking a quick detour off the ark. And I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it because it's that important. Um, Candace Owens had a picture she put up last week. It caused me to have a mild freakout, I think was the uh the most commonly described way I had friends and uh emailers tell me, "You had a mild freak out." I said, "Well, it wasn't mild. Um, you remember the picture? I'll pull it up in a minute if the plastic bits in the backseat of the the SUV. And I I looked at that picture and I thought, "Okay, this this case has taken a new turn." And then last night, well, I'll get to last night. I'll get to last night. I want to open the way I normally do. I was a little out of order last time. I'm going to do the opening statement. I'm going to move into it. Um, and I want to I want to give everybody a heads up on this opening statement real quick. Oh my gosh. I wrote this today. Usually I'm a day or two ahead of time on the openings. actually wrote this one today and I wrote it on the heels of the TPUSA event. I'll call it an event. It's a debacle. It was a disaster. I wrote it on the heels of the TPUSA event. And I thought, okay, I got to say what I want to say. Some of you guys might not like what I say, but I don't care. I'm going to be who I am. You guys can join me for the ride or you can you can get off the exit. That's fine. I'm going to be who I am. I'm tired of uh I'm tired of pretending that what's happening is okay. So, with that, let me give you my 4 days before Christmas opening. OH. OH, I ALMOST FORGOT. Happy winter solstice. It happened uh about 10 o'clock this morning, central time. That's when the sun is the farthest north it will get uh on an annual basis. That's why today's the shortest. Is it north? Is that right? Yeah. That's why today's the shortest uh day of the year. But anyway, I I I'll I'll move past this. Here's your opening statement. Little over 2,000 years ago, tiny little village in the Middle East, an otherwise unremarkable event took place. A baby was born. Scholars don't agree on the precise day or even the precise year it took place, but most scholars and historians agree this particular baby was born. He lived in the area an estimated 30 to 35 years. Much of his life was lived in obscurity. We have scant details from even his most ardent supporters of anything he did before adulthood. Like much of his childhood, his activities in adulthood are also thinly recorded. During his three plus years of public life, it is unknown whether anyone actually took the time to record any of it. If they did, we don't have it. We either don't know where it is or it didn't get written down at all. He had a handful a handful of vehement followers who after he died took his message around to most of the known world. They're recorded to have made it as far away as southern India to the east and Spain to the west. 11 of the men's the man's 12 closest followers were put to death for telling others about him. As they started to die off, somebody decided they should start recording in written form what they were saying.What we managed to save from this effort is four short narratives. None of them longer than a short novella. We have a few letters written that are both shorter and less detailed when it comes to his life than those four short narratives. But it's a good thing someone thought to write down what they were teaching, and others were thoughtful enough to save it. Very few religious movements survive without a common book or set of books from which to draw inspiration. and perhaps settled disputes. Many of those writings of course became what we call the Bible. The word Bible from the Greek biblia meaning scroll or papyrus. The Bible depicts what is known of the life of Jesus. It presents his teachings and the teaching of his teachings of his closest followers as they sought to spread his message around the world. The message was simple. Jesus was born of a w a virgin woman named Mary. He lived a sinful life, a sinless life, excuse me, big error there. He lived a sinless life. He died for the sins committed by everyone else. And he rose from the dead and lives eternally with God in heaven. And here is the lynch pin, the key. We also, the rest of us, the ones who committed the sins that put him to death, we can choose to join him eternally in heaven. Most churches decorate for the Christmas season with decorations we universally recognize as signs of Christmas. We sing carols and hymns we universally recognize as the songs of Christmas. There's a mystical universal component to it. Even many atheists or otherwise non-churchgoers look forward to the Christmas season and decorate their homes and businesses with Christmas cheer. And there's the rub. Everyone loves the warm, inviting, culturally unifying Christmas season. We can practically smell the cinnamon and spice as we see images of Christmas trees trimmed with lights and ornaments. We envision gathering around warm glowing hearths with cocoa and sugar cookies. We anticipate the childlike wonder of giving and receiving gifts. And it's hard. It's particularly hard in those moments to remember that the offer to join Jesus in heaven must be accepted. And many will never accept it. As culturally unifying as the Christmas season has become, the message of the one whose birth made the season is not unifying at all. His message is exclusive. Some will hear the message and accept it. Others will hear it and reject it. The message is to repent from your sin. Go and sin no more. Change your life. And above all, accept from Jesus forgiveness and the promise of eternal life. Of course, as much as Jesus's message is for anyone, it's not for everyone. Some will hear it and accept it. Some will never hear it. Some will hear it and ignore it. Some will hear it and outright reject it. I've thought of this reality more this Christmas season than I have in my previous 45 Christmases on earth. Something feels different this year. Or at least something is different in me this year. In years past, I've noticed the political right has sort of been the side of the aisle trying to conserve some semblance of a Christian identity and Christian heritage in the United States in the Western world. If you closed your eyes, say a year ago or 10 years ago or 20 years ago, and you pictured a conservative Republican, you could almost smell the pages of the Bible in the picture your mind produced. That's not to say every single conservative Republican was a weekly churchgoer, but on average, they were.their leaders certainly proclaim to be on that topic. It's hard to put my feeling into words, but I have this lingering nagging feeling I can't ignore. In the leadup to and the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's death, there's been a concerted effort to change that reality. To that end, there's a battle underway. The battle is for the heart and future of America. The old battle lines for the future of America were between the conservative right-wing largely composed of Christians against the godless leftwing. To be a conservative thought leader in America, you almost had to profess a belief in Christ. To run for to run for office, you had to have a picture of yourself carrying a Bible in the church. We on the right still face a godless leftwing. But the real fight the real fight for the future is within the right-wing itself. We're fighting for control of our own movement. Nowhere was this more clear than on the stage of TPUSA this weekend. But the fight extends far beyond that stage. If MAGA died with Trump asking if we're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein, then TPUSA died by allowing Ben Shapiro to open their conference by throwing a hissy fit about Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. I don't know how to say this tactfully, so I'll just say it the only way I know how to say it. Ben Shapiro despises you. He despises most of us. He thinks the Jesus we follow is a fraud. He assumes Jesus was a liar or worse and that he died and rotted in his grave. And he's not alone. I won't call them all out by name because most of them didn't take the stage this weekend, but Ben Shapiro is parting a part of a growing movement on the right that not only doesn't want to put America first, they want to put Christians anywhere else but first, such was the insanity of the entire TPUSA event. Such as the insanity of TPUSA in general these days. Why do you think Charlie Kirk said just two days before he died that his donors fit all the stereotypes? Why do you think Charlie Kirk said just two days before he died that he was left with no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause? Because despite send spending years pandering to people like Ben Shapiro and Josh Hammer who despise Christianity and despise Christians and view us as merely a means to their own end, Charlie never could have any peace. Whatever Charlie was willing to do was never enough. And he knew this wasn't conservatism. He recognized it for what it was. It was a power play. He knew conservatives were being brainwashed and used to prop up the interests of Ben Shapiro, Josh Hammer, and the donors who paid hundreds of millions of dollars propping up those two and more like them. And Charlie was done with it. And I'm done with it. And millions more like me are done with it. Because if this is the future of conservatism in America, you can count me out. I will not be led by anyone who prioritizes anyone other than Jesus Christ and who places any place other than the United States of America in a priority position. It is now a purity test for me. Unless and until candidates tell me they are both Christian and America first, I will not vote for them. Period. Politicians have lied about each in the past being Christian and and being America first. But at least their lies disclose their belief that it was important to the voters. We're now being told it doesn't matter, that we don't matter. We're being told we must accept godless, Jesus denying leadership in our interest groups and at the tops of our tickets.We're being told we must submit to the demands of other countries. We're being told we must fight their wars. We're being told we must pay their bills. And we're being told we must guarantee their survival. and I've had enough of it. Here I stand. I neither can nor will move from this position. And with that, I want to cover a few things tonight. Uh for those of you who have been around since October, uh we covered Accurate Energetic Systems, the explosion in Mchuan, Tennessee. I want to look at that again with fresh eyes in light of some details we now have that we didn't have then, including key dates in the Charlie Kirk event at UVU. I also want to look at fallout from the alleged meeting at Fort Wuka, including two alleged attendees attempt at establishing alibis. I'll let you know up front. Both failed to do so, and we'll talk about that and the consequences of that failure. Uh, finally, I want to take a look at probably the weirdest thing I've come across yet in the investigation of Charlie Kurt. It is so weird that I can't draw a conclusion based on what my eyes are telling me they see. My eyes see what they see. My brain refuses to believe it. So, I'm left with no way to reconcile the difference between my eyes and my brain. So, I'm going to turn to you guys tonight, ask you what you see. I don't even want to tell you in this opening statement what it is, lest your brain explode before we even get started. I said finally, maybe if I have time for one more, I'm going to play where the sitting vice president of the United States was called an assassin today on the stage of TPUSA's Afest if we have time. But first, the explosive new developments in the Charlie Kirk investigation. And I this is not where I was planning to go tonight, but last night um Trigger had a guest, John Aaron Bray. Uh he's been on Twitter talking about the explosive mic theory. I have never gotten as many emails on one topic as I've gotten on that one. And I think part of it might be because I hinted at the importance of potentially an explosive mic when I talked about the um the debris in Candace Owen's picture. If you remember the debris in her picture, I talked about that. Um because of that, I wonder if people took that as an idea that um Oh gosh, I'm never going to be able to find it now. Here it is. I wonder if people are going to take that as a uh as an idea and run with it. But first, I let me just show you this picture real quick. This is the Candace Owens picture I'm talking about if you've not seen it. Someone gave her a picture of the back seat of a of the SUV. And when you look at this picture, she put it up. You can see all these little black flexcks down here. If you can't see it, we'll zoom in in just a second. There's all these little black flexcks back here. And she does provide a zoomed-in picture. And this is what those black flexcks look like. They're little flexcks of plastic or glass. Uh when I saw that, immediately my eyes went to sheet plastic. Plastic. Sheet plastic exploded. It looks like it. It makes perfect sense. Someone else brought something up that I want to point out, though. Do you remember Brian Harpold describing the backseat of that van? He was talking about his bag being down in between the bucket seats that they laid Charlie Clerk Kirk over. I just want to point out that doesn't exist. There are no bucket seats, but we'll we'll cover that a different day.I don't have time to cover absolutely everything that comes to my mind. But those are the black flexcks that got me started on this. So, I opened my show the other day and I lost my mind. I I mean, I absolutely lost my mind. I said, "This is it. This is the single most important development in the entire Charlie Kirk investigation." I still believe that. I absolutely still believe that, but I had to put some context to it. I had to put some context to it. I couldn't just say, "Hey, here's some broken plastic in the backseat of a car." It doesn't make sense on its own. And so, I wanted to go back and look at the Acurate Energetica systems uh event because when we covered in October, we didn't have a lot of detail that we have today. uh what was it 10 days ago? Yeah, 10 days ago I covered Brian Harpole talking about his timeline of when did they start This is only going to be quick. I'm not going to sit here and watch videos of myself all night. When did they start planning the Oram Utah Utah Valley University event for Charlie Kirk? Here was Brian Harpole explaining when they started planning that. This date is going to be very, very, very important. I'm going to try to tie some disperate things together. It's going to take a lot of brain power here, so stay with me. Stay with me. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. All right. I'm going to play uh about a minute of this. You can hear the date We generally uh the permitting process and all that goes on behind the scenes uh and then there's a questionnaires that are filled out that we used to there was a lot of busy work and then so you know kind of like in the military what you did we create forms that hey let's get this information upfront >> and so that we uh have a duplication process so that we can confirm it and so we started our first uh before that one um the 24th of the month prior. >> All right. The 24th of the month prior. That is when they started planning it. Well, you know, you and I and others noticed that the 25th of the month prior, so that would have been August August 24th, you and I realized that the 25th of the month prior, we had this mysterious flight from Joint Base Andrews to Colorado Springs and then Colorado Springs to Las Vegas and then back from Las Vegas to uh Camp Springs. We had this Do I need to make that larger? We had this mysterious flight and the reason it was an important flight was it was a SAM triple0 and I'm not going to draw the whole connection again but it has to do with the alleged meeting that took place at Fort Wuka. If that flight at Fort Wu that place at uh meeting at Fort Wuka didn't take place, this flight has significantly less importance. But because that that meeting at Fort Wuka the day before Charlie Kirk was assassinated has not yet been disproven. No one not a single person yet has provided a legitimate alibi for not being there. This flight still has significant relevance. And again for those of you who didn't watch that program this significant relevance was this SAM triple0ero flight. That's almost assuredly the vice president of the United States. Almost assuredly. It could be. There's an outside chance it's someone else. It's not the president. Stam Triple0ero if it's not the president is almost always the vice president. There's an outside chance it was someone else, but it's probably not. Probably not.No matter who it is, it is someone at the very tiptop of civilian government or military government here in the United States. So, we watch this. We look at the Las Vegas. We look at the Camp Springs to Colorado Springs. Okay. So, we've got the 25th in the back of our head. And I started thinking, there's got there's I know I've seen that 25th somewhere else. Yes, I did see it somewhere else. And I'm going to walk you through where else I saw it. And this is important because it could explain the story we're setting up tonight. I covered this back in October. You remember the Accurate Energetic Systems explosion in Mchuan, Tennessee? It killed 16 people instantly. It was a a military contractor who mixes up militaryra explosives and then sells them to the United States government and other foreign actors. I think other foreign actors, but they they definitely sell explosives to the federal government. And so I did what I do. I got on SAM.gov. I uh this is SAM.gov, by the way. This is the uh U excuse me, usaspending.gov. This is the way to track federal spending. Almost every federal dollar that goes to a contractor is listed through here. I slide down here and I see this description requirement for miniaturaturized extra small dem demolition charges and demolition charges anti-personnel extra small to support SPM. Now SPM could be a special purpose mission. Um there's a there's an SPM marine unit. Uh, I'm not sure what SPM here is, but I am sure what extra small means and I am sure what anti-personnel means. And I looked at this and I was like, "Oh, it's only $440,000." So, I open up the contract and I'll show you what that looks like. This is where the dates really start to come into play. The date of this contract was opened on May 1st, 2025 August 25, 2025. So here you have a very shortterm contract made to June, July, excuse me, May, June, July, August. less than four months. This contract was was signed and delivered in less than four months and it was delivered on August 25, 2025. This is for again extra small anti-personnel charges. Extra small. I went searching around USA spending. I believe this is one of the only contracts I could find that described explosives. this way. One of the only I could find that expl that that described explosives that way. So, just to put it all together, we have uh Brian Harpole telling us that the planning began in earnest on August 24th. I think he might have meant August 25th because August 24th is a Sunday, but even if it was August 24th, the Sunday, that's or August 24th, the Sunday. August 25th is the Monday. On August 25th, we have a SAM triple0ero flight that goes to Colorado Springs. And that's important. That's very important because Colorado Springs, the civilian airport in Colorado Springs was the last destination of the SAM flight that went into Fort Wuka where allegedly allegedly Brian Harpole and others were spotted the day before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. So, we're putting all this together. There's a lot of brain power again that's required in all this and we're not even done yet. We're just getting going. So, so stay with me. To recap, Brian Harpole, August 24th, we start planning in earnest. That's a Sunday. August 25th. Hang on. I got I got to do this. I don't care. I don't care. Bye. Um, look, you I'm not tuning in to watch you. If you don't like what I say, go go somewhere else. And that's not me being uh arrogant or anything like that. It's just this is not an airport.You don't have to announce your departure. Just go hang up. It's not necessary. It's not necessary at all. If you want to see good information, hang around. If you don't want to see good information, But you have August 24th is the day, the Sunday that it begins planning in earnest. you get uh August 25th, the Monday, the following Monday, you have the SAM triple0ero flight going to Colorado Springs, the civilian airport. And that civilian airport is the last airport destination before the uh September 9th meeting where Brian Harpole and allegedly the congressman from Las Vegas was there and and something else. Okay, so now we got our timeline down. So what happened at this Mchuan, Tennessee plant that even put this on our radar? Why would we even think about this place? Here is what we learned, exactly one month to the day after the Charlie Kirk uh here it is after the Charlie Kirk assassination. Uh Hickman County explosives plant. This is in Tennessee. This is about 60 mi from my house give or take as the crow flies. Hickman County Explosives Plant committed safety violations in 2019. Inspection found. So Hickman County, which is a couple counties west of here, had a a a company called Accurate Energetic Systems. Accurate Energetic Systems um produced this explosive, this extra small anti-personnel explosive that was delivered that was contracted on May 1, delivered on August 25 and then in uh Charlie Kirk dies on September 10 and by October 10, this place is toast. And when I say toast, I mean it was an explosion that was so massive it was felt by people who live near me 60 miles away. 60 miles away, people felt this explosion. It wiped the plant off the map. Nothing is left. Literally nothing's left. You look at a picture before, you look at a picture after. They had previously been fined, and this is going to come up in a minute and be important. So, I'm going to go ahead and show it since I have this up. They had previously been a fi uh fined because one of the explosive materials they were using called cyclonite was not properly um not properly stored and it was landing on people's skin and it was causing them seizures. They would have this cyclonite land on their skin and it would cause them seizures. And the reason that cyclonite is so dangerous is, and I looked this up, if it gets into the soil, it doesn't break down. It It's very soil mobile, they call it. That's the word they use, soil mobile. And so, it's very important you store this stuff. It doesn't quickly break down into inert substances. It stays very dangerous for a very long time. And if it lands on people or you breathe it in, you can have neurological effects up to it, including seizures or death, organ failure. So once cyclonite is present in an area, you would not want that soil to be accessible. You might want to pave over the site, for example, if cyclonite had exploded in a given area. You wouldn't want kids at a college, for example, laying around in a courtyard that has cyclonite in it. You would want to make sure you've paved over that area So, I'm putting all this together in my head. All this is coming together in my mind and I tune in last night because I love the the uh the guy Trigger Smart. I love his show. I tune in. He's doing a great job. He's got John Aaron Bray on it. John Aaron Bray is the guy who invented the uh and and I'll show you pieces of it here in a second.He invented the uh computer program that tracked the movements of Charlie Kirk's shirt, and listening and listening and watching I've never I' I've read his stuff. I've never heard him explain it. I think he's on to something here. I've actually talked now to John Erin Bray. I think I might have him on the program at some point in the future, but I think tonight I'll I'll just run through a little bit of his program last night with Trigger because I think I got everything I need for today out there. Uh, but as he and I spoke, we have a lot more we can share with this audience. So, I want to I want to play pieces of this. I think I have seven clips that that are between like 20 seconds and a minute. And I think it gives you a lot of background. So, I've become known as the uh electrocution guy. Let me let me correct that. I'm not the electrocution guy. I'm the guy who raised the issue on a mass level of electrocution theory potential of Charlie Kirk to hear back from the audience. I thought it had risen to the record of uh I thought it had risen, excuse me, to the um the rate that everybody needed to hear about it. In my mind, it had enough credibility that we needed to get it in front of people and start getting feedback. And I've gotten a ton. And there are some areas of the electrocution theory that I'm now rethinking and there are some that I'm doubling down on. Same thing with this exploding microphone theory. I think there's something to that and I don't think it's exclusive of the electrocution theory. So I do want to play a couple of clips of this. I want to go through and explain why it is. I think there's real merit to what John Bray is saying here. And I appreciate Trigger Smart for having him on because I learned a great deal. If you are not a fan of Trigger Smark, go give him a follow. Give him a subscribe. He's great. He's got really good material. He tries to get to the right answer on things. Obviously, we disagree some He probably disagrees with me sometimes. Whatever. People disagree with people. Uh but but John Bray opens here with giving you a little bit of an idea of how he started down this road. And the one way he started down this road was he has a background um in in military body armor. >> Get into like what what made you kind of go this route? not not super in detail, but just kind of like a high level. >> Um well, immediately I saw the video and I thought it was AI cuz it just looks so strange to me. And then um my my background is in body armor. I developed the um refurbishing program for the army for their IOTVs, OTVs. So I saw how his shirt deformed and I was certain that he had body armor on. But you know, within the end of the day, it was pretty obvious they didn't. Okay, that was a pretty important clip. It's it's an intro in Hey, oh, by the way, I have a background in body armor. So, when I But he kind of breeze past it. I want to I want to really tease this out here. Everybody assumed he was wearing body armor. If you remember, for the first little while, do you remember? Go back go back in time to midseptember. I still get people emailing me telling me, "Well, it hit his body armor." Guys, he did not have on body armor. He absolutely did not have on body armor. You could see his spine in the back. You can see his nipples in the front. You can see his chest hair. No body armor.The reason people are so married to the idea of body armor is because his shirt moved in a way that your brain cannot reconcile that his shirt was not part of That's that's why people are married to the body armor. That's why I still get emails from people saying, you know, he was wearing body armor or I think it hit his body armor. Have you considered it hit his body armor? And I just want to choke somebody, but it now makes sense because until I heard John say that even he as a body armor expert, a guy who refurbishes military body armor as a job, believed it was body armor up until it And so as he's evaluating this, I thought, you know what? He's really on to something here. The shirt is important. The way the shirt moved, we've all seen the way the necklace came up, but let's go back and and and hear this second clip. Again, I've tried to make these as short as possible. I don't want to steal too much of Trigger Smart's commentary because it's a really great program. I encourage everybody to go watch the whole thing. He actually has a long form version and he's clipped it down to a short form version for those with uh ADD wire. So then I was left with three different things that kind of I had to figure out to explain how they were they were obviously tied together because they moved they started movement at the same time and they kind of moved in in kind of opposite directions of each other. the shirt, you know, pulling up on his face and the magnetic clasp kind of moved opposite of each other at first and then the magnetic clasp flows back across his chest as this as the shirt relaxes. Um, and then the the necklace was what really what puzz puzzled me the most because it's the most energetic object of the event. It moved the quickest. It had the most amount of energy kind of display. >> All right, so he's he's got three things he's looking at. I don't want I just don't want you I'm pausing because I don't want it to be lost the irony that he's holding in his left hand. A Sure M SM58 microphone. [laughter] That's the microphone Charlie's holding in the video on the right. A Sure SM58 microphone. So they're holding the same mic. So if you want to know what Charlie's microphone look at look like, look at John Bray at the top of the uh the threeman totem pole over there. So what this video is, I'm going to show you. I don't know if you guys have seen this video. John wrote a computer program using an MIT process. He wrote a computer program that as the pixels move from screen from from uh from uh frame to frame, it will tell you which pixels move the farthest. So it'll it'll it'll um the best John if I'm getting this wrong apologize but the best way I know how to display it is like every pixel is given an identity and then where that pixel moves it'll color it based on how far it moves. So if it doesn't move at all that the screen doesn't change colors but when it moves you'll see an energetic source coming from the t-shirt here. So I'm going to let him keep going but I'm going to stop it when you see the t-shirt move. in it and it was enough energy to actually >> boom right there. You see that? This is why we all assumed, myself included on day one, this is why we all because his shirt moved as if he got shot in the chest. We instinctively know what that looks like. We've watched it on movies. We've watched it in real life.If you've been in war or anything, you know what people look like when they You don't What you don't know is um what's causing this movement because instantly within minutes we were told, "No, no, no, no, no. He was not shot. He was not at all shot in the chest. He was shot solely in the neck. nothing made contact with his chest because he wasn't wearing body armor and had he been shot in the chest, it wouldn't have deflected. It would have gone right And so what he says is he had to reconcile as he as he evaluated this image, he had to reconcile that there were three things moving simultaneously. One was his shirt in general. The second thing he had to reconcile was the microphone. He had a a portable microphone, not just the Sure SM58 he was holding in his hand. He had a Rogue uh wireless pro two that was attached to his it it kind of was attached up here like this. Here, let me get rid of this for a second. I'll show you kind of what it was like. It's just a shade longer than my uh my AirPod or my earbud case here, but it was under his shirt right here and it was held. Actually, this is even better. These are my hearing aid case for those of you who don't know how deaf I am. It was on his shirt and then there was a magnet clasp holding it on, but it's way up here. See, it's way up here. The magnetic clasp is way up here. He was The wound was on this side midway through the neck. You've got obviously your Adam's apple. All this is over here. And so what he's saying is this moves. This microphone moves. It moves from over here to over here. The shirt moves up and then you have that necklace move up into his neck. Three things simultaneously moving all different directions. And you can see going back and looking at the pixelated image here, you can see where is the most of the energy coming from. It's not coming from his neck. Not coming from his neck. It's coming from the middle of his chest, from his sternum area. I will also draw your attention because I think it's important for reasons John Aaron Bray may not understand and trigger smart may not understand. It's important that you look at this little bitty one over here. I don't know if you can see my mouse right over here under his right armpit. You see that red hot zone there where there's a lot of stuff moving around? That's going to be important down the road. If you continue to listen to my program, Beyond Tonight, I am going to cover that spot right there and I'm going to tell you what it is. But I can't do it tonight. I can't do it tonight. So, you've got this right here under his armpit. You have this gigantic movement right here in the middle of his chest. And then you have what you can see his microphone right here, this lighter blue, zooming across his body kind of at like a 30° angle across the screen. And John looks at this and says, "I cannot reconcile what's happening here. This is irreconcilable with a single bullet entry room entry wound to the neck." Frankly, it's irreconcilable with a bullet entry wound from behind and an exit wound in the front. I'll go ahead and spill the surprise on that for those of you who think it might be. So, if it's not that, what is it? That's where he starts looking at the microphone. I'm going to go one step further and suggest it could also be something else. We'll let him discuss the microphone and then I will kind of give you my expanded thoughts. Let me pull this up. This is a big show. This is a big show.This is a So that made it plausible. And then I started to study the injuries from the pager attacks which they >> I need to tell you real quickly. I because I clipped this a little tight. The pager attacks he's talking about is he is um he's talking about the Israeli pager attacks against Hezbollah in Lebanon. And if you'll recall there was two waves of those attacks. There was the first attack wave and then I think a day or two later there's a second wave attack. And they were two different types of devices. One was, well, I got an old pager right here. It's not that old. This these old pagers where you you open them up and they have uh AAA batteries in them. You know what I'm talking about? You got a AAA You guys remember these, right? Old school pagers. Uh you can turn it on, it still works. Oh, no. It's dead. Battery's dead. But anyway, um they had AAA batteries in it. And then they have some pagers that have like the battery in your phone, a lithium ion battery. That's what he's talking about here. I'm just giving you a little. So, he's he's he's he's opening up the discussion here on whether or not this would be probable or possible even in a microphone >> were the pagers themselves were were alkaline batteries. They were round like double A style batteries. So, they left like black residue, but they didn't leave any burns and they didn't really like char the victims and it was pretty directional. the uh >> Wait, so so you're saying the the ones in Lebanon did not leave charring? >> Yeah, they what they left was the alkaline battery char was like the insides of the alkaline battery, like a black residue from the alkaline battery. The walkie-talkies that followed the day after they had lithium batteries and they didn't leave any charring or any residue. They were pretty much clean. Um, so that's where I was like, well, that's that's bizarre because immediately, you know, like everyone else, you think explosion, you think it's going to be like a of a lot of radial damage. There'll be charring and residue left. So, that opened up to the possibility that it could be a completely clean burn. Um, but then I was kind of perplexed like why would why would someone go through the effort of this and not have a means to cover it up, right? if if they killed Charlie with a a loaded microphone bomb, everyone would know who it is. So, that kind of opened up the idea that they would need a pathy. And I can't I can't say it any better than John Bray just said it. If if Charlie Kirk if you woke up to the news on September 10th and they said Charlie Kirk died from an exploding microphone or an exploding necklace, you'd have said, "Hey, wait a minute. Uh uh that's government. That's foreign or domestic government. But that's military. That's intel. That's not a gay guy living with a trans furry. But if you wake up and they say, "Man, Charlie Kirk got shot in the neck. That's wild, isn't it?" Well, yeah, that that could I mean, it's still probably not, frankly, a a guy living with a transfer, but it's it's certainly more likely that it's a guy living with a transfer than the old exploding microphone trick. I don't mean to make light of it, I promise. Um, so what is it they were trying to accomplish? This is kind of gets to the point of where I think this investigation is going.I think I think what he's about to say here in 23 seconds, this is where I've been hinting that my investigation is going, he is clearly hinting he thinks And I want you to hear it directly from him because he's the first one to have said it on the interwebs and I want you guys to give him full credit. Uh, Trigger and John Bray did a great job in this by the way. But I put my mind in kind of the conspirators, right, that I wanted to pull this sort of event out. I would want the wound and the event to look like a rifle shot. And in my mind, immediately what I thought was it looked like a chess shot. So then I was like, what if this was designed to be to mimic a chess shot of a 36 30 off six? >> So let's talk about >> that's where I'm headed. That's where I'm headed. That comment is on trigger smarts, not mine. Uh, I think this was designed to look like a chess shot. I think the neck wound was entirely incidental. I think this was intended to look like a chess shot because what is more believable Tyler Robinson shot him somewhere here probably way off to the side because he's not a very good shot. May have shot him just barely gotten him under the right nipple for example right over here. Remember the wound area I was telling you about right over here? What's more likely? Tyler Robinson gets him right over here, barely clips his chest, or he hits him right in the jugular? Which is more likely? I know which is more likely in my mind. Now, why doesn't the official narrative make sense? I think he does again a good job of this. So, I'm going to let him explain it. Um, why doesn't the official narrative make sense? And then I'm going to come back in just the next clip and explain more about what I mean by why I think they intended to set up a chess a chess shot >> quick because a lot of people are going to say like what what's your official explanation as to why the official narrative wouldn't work? >> Well, it's because it's the order of events. So you you when you watch the events unfold in in slow motion frame by frame, the necklace, the microphone movement and the shirt all precede the appearance of the neck wound. And with a high velocity impact the neck, the zone two of the neck particular, you would have instantaneous effects, right? You would have automized blood. You would have cavitation. There's no way that you would have it's at 043 seconds delay from when the shirt first moves to when you see the neck wound even appear. That's an important distinction and it's something that um something that again lended credibility to the body armor uh thought for a lot of people very early on because they the hits the shirt they thought oh the bullet must have hit the shirt. You see the big shirt movement and then ricochets up to the neck. Then you see the wound and then bullet falls out and now you have neck wound. Because of that delay, it's not simultaneous. It's a huge problem in the sequencing of the shirt moving and the wound appearing. Uh but I'm going to let him continue. >> And it's almost a whole second before blood appears out of the neck wound. Yeah, that's the strangest part to me is that delay. >> So then I studied uh you know the forensics of hav velocity impacts and there's there's so much you know um case studies on it and and examples of people being shot in the neck in the exact same area and nothing about it made sense. There's there's no high velocity blood, no blood automization.Um, and then the strangeness of the leaked autopsy reports. Like >> I'm not getting into the leaked autopsy reports because I I I think I think this is an area where he and I diverge a little bit, but I I I'm going to go back. I'm going to set up this next clip by telling you what I think I'm I'm becoming more convinced of. I'm becoming convinced he was not shot at all with a bullet. Not in the neck, not in the chest, nowhere. I am convinced that they intended to make it look like he was shot in the chest and that perhaps the wound you see on his neck was intended for his chest. And so then you would hear the bang, you would see the wound, and then he would be carded off before he knew knew what was happening. I do believe that when all the security got over him and they looked at him, they thought, "Oh my, what is this? This isn't what it's supposed to look like." You can almost see for those of you who are just I call it a rickm. You guys have rick gas. Everybody loves talking about Rick Cutler. Oh, palm gun guy. He's pulling a trigger. He's pulling on his I don't know what he was doing. He Countdown. Everybody loves Rick. I don't know. Rick must look like like a Nazi uh uh villain from a 1980s movie or something. Everybody hates Rick. I'm not so sure because when Rick rolls up on the scene, you can see him almost laugh. And when you look at it, it's almost like he rolled up and thought, "DAMN, BOYS. WHAT' YOU DO?" [laughter] >> [gasps] >> It's almost like he was shocked. Almost like he was shocked. Um I keep seeing people asking about the cavitation. I'll explain that in a minute. We're not quite there yet, but um I'll explain that. I don't think what you're seeing necessarily is the type of cavitation you're anticipating uh or that you would see if he got shot in the neck with a 306. Obviously, if it was a 306, he just would be missing half a neck. So, it's nonsensical to believe he was shot with a 30 odd six. I was watching uh Valhalla the other night who actually was watching somebody else [laughter] and they were out there from 140 yards shooting steel plates right through uh femurs cow femurss right through uh cinder blocks right through there's no way 2 in of neck meat is stopping a 306 it's nonsensical absolutely nonsensical uh but I do want to uh roll forward this because I don't want to uh All right, here is why I mentioned all that about the neck. >> He thinks, like I do, they're making this up on the fly because they weren't Yeah. So, this is this is the and this is Oh, you guys didn't hear any of that. Oh gosh, guys. You deserve so much better than this. My audience does not deserve this quality of production. You guys hang in here day after day, week, two, three, four shows a week some weeks. You deserve someone who cares more about you than I did right there. I apologize. Let me get this back up so you can get the quality programming you deserve. Unacceptable. I'm putting myself in timeout for 29 seconds. I I believe that the microphone was designed to replicate a 30 off [ __ ] a 30 off six impact to the chest and there was unforeseen shrapnel that came off of the microphone. The ca either the battery or the magnetic clasp that struck his neck that they didn't prepare for. And so when the very obvious neck wound became kind of the center point of the event, they had to shift the narrative from a chest shot to a a single neck shot.And the best evidence of this is Andrew Kovette coming out within days of the shot saying, "Oh, I talked to the surgeon. Charlie's got a Superman neck." You should see the titaniumplated neckbones that saved lives of those around him. Oh, it would have been a gorefest all over, but for his Superman bones. Here's a direct quote from the surgeon talking about just how important Charlie Kirk's final act of being a hero was. It was a true miracle from God himself. Heaven again, heaven above could not have predicted this. And then a few days ago, they come out and say, "I have no idea why Andrew Corvette said any of that. I have no idea why Andrew Kovette said it. He's a lying liar who lies. He has violated the eighth commandment. Thou shalt not lie. That's what they've done to poor Andrew Kovette. They picked him up and they threw him overboard. They threw him out and they backed the bus up. Well, in doing so, they have exposed a reality. They exposed a reality. What is the reality they exposed? They're making it up on the fly. You know what that tells me? He wasn't shot in the neck. Because if he was shot in the neck, you know what they would have said? Here's what happened. Here's what happened. He was shot in the neck. Here's the bullet. It's matched to this gun. Here's the damage it did. And the damage makes complete sense, guys, because it comes in at an angle, a 90 degree angle offset of the neck, and it passed right clean through. Or for some But what they wouldn't say is here's a direct quote from the surgeon about how Charlie Kirk's neck is made of steel and he's a miracle. He's like Superman. And then two and a half months later when nobody was buying the story, they come back and say, "As a matter of fact, Andrew Kovette's sh full of sugar honey iced tea. Don't believe anything he says ever again. He'll lie right to your face." Now, I I'm a believer that Andrew deserves better than that. I don't think Andrew deserves to be done like that. I really don't. I think Andrew Kovette should tell them to take the job and shove it. And he should come over to the light side and he should tell us everything we know, He doesn't deserve to be done that way. But that is the evidence he was not shot in the neck. Because if he was shot in the neck, you don't have to lie. If he was shot in the neck, you don't have to make up a story about how he's Superman and he's got titanium bones. You don't have to make up a story about how two elk can't stop a 306, but Charlie Kirk's 2 in of neck muscle sure did. You don't have to make any of that up. You just tell what happened. The first day you say frangible round. I mean the surgeon would have known that within minutes. Surely they x-rayed the No, but that's not what happened, is it? It wasn't until about a thousand people like Valhalla, like uh uh Chris Peterson, is it Peterson? Chris Peterson, like all these people had gone out there. Range day bros. Everybody had got out there and just started sending live rains, live rounds down range over and over and over again trying to find some material that would stop a 306 from 142 yards. And what they learned was nothing stops a 300 6 from 142 yards. Nothing. Everything it blows out the back of pork roast, beef roast, beef femurss, beef vertebrae, steel plates, concrete cinder blocks, nothing can stop it.And after several thousand YouTube videos of people showing that nothing stopped the 300 6, the TPUSA people had to stop telling us, "Oh, Charlie's neck stopped at 306. Take that to the bank." No, it didn't. No, it didn't at all. And we knew it from the beginning. Why? [cough] [clears throat] Cuz that's how they've been treating you. They've been treating you like you're an idiot. They've been lying to you every step of the way. And as soon as we call them and say, "Wait a minute, that's not possible." They go, "Oh yeah, it wasn't really a 300 6. It was a frangible round shot through a 300 6." What an actual [snorts] So, here's the final clip I'm going to play. This is when he talks about, and the only reason I'm playing this is I'm giving him major kudos because he's the only reason we got this information out of Candace. Not that she was hiding it from us. I don't think she knew what she had. So now I'm just bringing this up because with the Candace Owens kind of dropped that bomb in one of her videos saying that there's a little specks the little black specks on the floor inside of her car. Have you seen that yet? >> Yeah. >> So the car that Charlie was in and they're saying that that might be from, you know, people are implying that might be from the explosion like pieces of the pager or of in this case of the audio um that exploded and these little tiny pieces they're seeing in the car were from that. What do you think about that? I believe >> I'm actually the one that centered the message about that. Um the um the type of plastic that you see in the floorboard too are would match the plastic you could expect from from that device. So you have flat black plastic and then you have glossy plastic. The glossy plastic is the actual face of the case which the battery is right behind that O there. So that immediate charge would basically shatter that into, you know, a million little pieces. Like I'm going to break in for just a second. If you if you've not gotten on here, you can jump in and see all these little black plastic flexcks all in through this car in here. So, um, I'm going to recommend in a sec. I'm This the very last clip I'm going to play. It's a little less than a minute left, but when we get done with it, I'm going to say go follow John Aaron Brown X. uh go like Trigger Smart's video and watch it and and subscribe to him. He's great stuff. Anyway, >> glass and then the primary charge would would further break the inner core of the um of the device, which you showed earlier when the battery was kind of popped out of the device. It's all flat black on the inside of it. and the how thin that plastic is. When it would break, it would just shatter into small little pieces like that from the the the high-pressure wave of the um the explosive. Like I said, it's a Mach 7, you know, jet that's going to be coming out of that device. It's all right. And and he and I talked about this. I looked up the exact type of uh explosive combination that I think it was that explosive combination. It's a 60/40 mix of of uh of the explosive I told you about earlier, RDX, I think it's called, and TNT. When you put those two together, do you know what the blast speed is? It's 24,000 ft per second. To give you an idea how fast that is, a 300 6 round, had it happened, would have would have arrived at about 24,000 feet per second. And that's if it's shaped. If it's not shaped, what happened? Stabbed myself. Look at that.Uh, that's if it's not That's if it's shaped. If it's not shaped, it's upwards of like 7,000 ft per. It's some kind of ludicrous speed. I mean, just absolutely ludicrous speed. Now, there's one thing I'm not playing, but I want you to go to his X feed. It's John Aaron Bray. J O N Aaron Bray on X. I'm not playing it because it's just too gruesome for my audience, but he has a slow-mo of the wound opening up and coming out. And there is a right angled piece of material that falls out when the blood starts. So you guys remember there was the there was the there was the mark when the shirt came down, but there was no blood initially. shirt comes up, there's a mark, shirt comes down, then the blood starts pouring, which is not consistent with a rifle shot to the neck, but whatever. What he shows you in slow motion, he has two sideby-side videos from two There is a right angle, two right angle piece of something that falls out of there with the initial blood flow. That ain't a bullet. It's not a bullet. I do not believe he was shot with a bullet. I believe it was intended to look like he got shot with a bullet. I believe it was intended to look like he got shot I don't believe it was intended to look like he got shot with a bullet in the neck. And I think that was a total accident. Now, I have a theory for how they intended to make it look like he got shot in the neck. I mean, in the chest with a with a rifle round. I have a theory behind that. And I've got a couple of things I have to nail down before I can release that whole theory. But I do not I I am I am one I'm 99.44% sure that he was not shot in the neck with a bullet. Now, where does this put my electrocution theory? The same. I think it was simultaneous. I think it was simultaneous. I think the it could have even been the mechanism to create the blast could have been the electrical charge through his body. I don't know the answer to that. I'm not an electrician. I'm not an electrical engineer. But I do believe he was electrocuted. And I believe he was he had a broken microphone an exploded an explosion under his shirt. Now, [snorts] was it only one thing that exploded under his shirt or was it two things? Because what we have is little microphone pieces all over this van or all over this SUV. We've got little black plastic flexcks all over the place. So that's one thing we have, but we also have the physics problem of the shirt coming up from underneath. The shirt coming up from underneath and at a at a speed that is absolutely impossible from a gunshot to the neck. If you go back, and this is what I was talking about, and I want to I want to bring him on to to talk about the mechanics, but the the angle from the side. So, if you're looking at Charlie's, say uh uh 9:00, there's a there's a camera angle. It's really high quality camera angle. I played it on here many times. I could even show you the beginning of it. Um let me open it up here and I'll show you the beginning of this camera angle. It's this camera angle. It's 60 frames per second. And I'm not going to show you the gunshot, but it's 60 f or the uh the bang. It's this this video right here is 60 frames per second. Really crisp and clear. If you go one frame at a time, one frame at a time. If you advance this at the moment of the impact, if you advance it one frame at a time, his shirt travels over two feet. I mean, his uh his necklace travels over two feet. Do the math. That's not possible.That is impossible from a gunshot to the neck. No, nothing can cause a necklace to accelerate that quickly without its own source of speed, its own something acting on it. That's the only thing I believe. Well, I'm going to leave that up. I think the necklace accelerated, the microphone accelerated, or both. Could be both. But I do believe it was intended to look like a gunshot. But I'm I'm still trying to tie down a couple of a couple of items before I explain to you how that happened. Here, this was a good question, and this is what I'm waiting on. Someone asked, "Am I ready to explain the nipple burn?" Not yet. I'm working on it. I'm working on it because the nipple burn is going to be key to whether or not, frankly, That to me is still a live issue in my mind. Was Charlie aware there was an operation to make it look like he got shot in the And I'm not ready to tie that loose end yet. I'm not ready to tie that up. But I think the burn around his nipple is part of it. I think if you look at the the movement of the shirt, remember I told you watch that really high energy position of the front right. See if I If you go back and uh can I find it that quickly? You go back and look. Yeah, right here. Go back and watch below uh his uh right nipple when they start showing the energy. You'll see what I'm talking about. And I think it's key to determining whether or not Charlie was That's what I'm talking about right there. That little small piece right here. I think it's a live issue whether Charlie was aware of this small piece on the lower right hand side of his chest left as we're looking about it. I do not believe Charlie was aware of this gigantic piece here and I don't believe Charlie was aware of the microphone up here. I think those would have caught him by surprise. The question is whether he was aware of this one and I've got some loose ends to tie down on that and it raises a whole other set of issues that is going to really bother some people. It's going to raise a whole lot of issues that are going to really bother people. Namely, why would he be in on something like that? And and that's that that's what I've got to to come back to. That's what I got to come back to. But I'm telling you right now, this evidence tonight does not require a gunshot to to to do exactly this. Now, am I married to this? Am I saying 100% that he was exploded by an exploding microphone? No. Am I saying 100% something, you know, had caused his necklace to go up high like No. Am I saying 100% Charlie was in on it and he knew something? No. No. No. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is once I get to a certain point where I think the um the evidence becomes more likely than not that something probably happened, I raise the issue and I bring it to you. I show you the evidence. I show you the video. I show you the discussion and I let you give me feedback. That's what I did with the electrocution. That's what I did with the electrocution. I showed you his hands. I showed you the ring falling off and hanging on to his Actually, I didn't because I couldn't show you the video, but I told you about it. I told you all these things. And I raise the issues and I bring them up to a to a to a certain level. And then I say, "All right, you tell me what you think. You guys go do your research. You guys jump on John Aaron Bray's X feed and look at it. You guys go and watch the Trigger Smart video and listen to it. You guys think, do some research.Look at Accurate Energetic Systems. Why did it blow up? What kind of contracts do they have? Is that August 25th date what we think it is? Maybe. But it's it's it's it's a ludicrous position. And this is the position Candace gets put in. I get put in. Uh uh Ian gets put lots of us get put in this position where they say unless you're 100% some sure something is true you're not allowed to talk about it online and I reject that. I absolutely reject that and here's why. How are we ever going to get to 100% if we're not allowed to talk about it? That's all. Like I will raise these issues. It looks like there's some force moving his shirt. The only two things that we know of that were under his shirt were a microphone and a necklace. Just so happens that's where a lot of the force came from. There is an area where a third bit of force is coming from that the official story says there was nothing there. Everybody agrees there was a microphone right a necklace right here in the middle of the chest. And there's tremendous force coming from right in the middle of the chest. Everyone agrees there was a microphone right here. And there's tremendous force Not everyone agrees there's something here, but there is tremendous force And I I think there might have been something there as well. That's what I'm trying to tie down. But regardless, if I have to get to the point where I'm 100% certain h something happened and I have to call people out by name before I'm even allowed to discuss something, then this investigation stops and nobody's allowed to talk about it at all. We might as well all go to the TBUSA event and say 306 to the neck. Oh, we're doing frangible round this week. Frangible And it's totally nonsensical. It's absolute lunacy. It doesn't happen. That's not the way the world works. We're allowed to have conversations. We're allowed to discuss these things and and see. All I'm asking is have a look at it. Have a look at it. Go look at accurate energetic systems. Go look at John Aaron Bray. Go look at Trigger Smart. Go look at the video and you tell me what you think happened. I think the most compelling is the piece of debris that I think pretty much clearly falls out of his neck. It's two right angles. Blood doesn't fall in right angles. All right, before we get to the next story, um I want you guys to hit the like button, subscribe to the program if you've not already. Feel free to share it with your friends. Uh we have fun in here. We have fun in here. Not everybody has as much fun as we do. We have more fun than most. Uh all right, let me set up the next uh the next topic this way. Uh Candace mentioned the September 9th Fort Wuka meeting. She had a guest on who said there was a Fort September 9th Fort Wuka meeting. I don't know if he's telling the truth or not. All we could go by is what he says, but it does seem to have uh a little bit of something there because there was a very important plane there. And he did name specific people. And that's always dangerous. If you're going to call somebody out for doing something and you say, "I saw you there." They better have been there because if not, it's going to be very easy for them to explain where they were. No, I was in Washington DC voting on bills. Oh, well then your source looks like an idiot. Oh, no. I was in Dallas, Texas with my uh with my daughter watching her play volleyball. Oh, now your source is an idiot. So, they've they've named specific people.The source has named specific people. The two people we'll talk about today is Representative Mark Amode. A M O D EI. That was one of the people he named from Las Vegas. Just so happens the SAM triple0ero flight also flew to Las Vegas. Could be a coincidence. Could be a coincidence. So, that's one person they named. And the second person they named was Brian Harpole. Brian Harpole. So if you're going to name those two people, well, they're going to have the opportunity to come back with a alibi. With an alibi. Were they able to come up with an alibi? Well, they tried. Both of them tried. I will submit to you both of them failed. And I'll show you what I mean by that. And this is the first attempt at an alibi. This is uh Representative Maram Mode. He tried to give this alibi. He says, "No, no, no. I was in Washington DC working for the district. I was in meetings all day." Well, there were two votes in the morning and he was not at either of them. And so he brings up the idea that uh no, I was in Washington DC taking roll call votes with my committee, but look, lo and behold, he was not at either one of those roll call votes. Why didn't you vote? Why didn't you abstain? Why didn't you vote yes? Why didn't you vote no? Well, you know, we're not asking for anything heroic here. We're just asking if you're working, you might as well raise your hand every now and then. All they do is say, "Uh, Mr. emo and you go I or no and then you're you're on to the next one. So that's that's number one. And he actually tried to say this and he got he got uh community noted. He tried to say, "Oh, no, no, no, no. I was in Washington DC taking a vote." No, he got community noted. The community notes voted and said, "No, you weren't there. Sorry. You're not going to play that game. We're not we're not falling for that." The second person who tried was Brian Harpole. And here's how he tried. This failed even worse. Brian Harpole submitted a plane confirmation. You can look at it here. This is at first blush. You think, "Oh, this is this is important." This is a plane flight that was booked on over here on August 29th. It's on the right hand side about three lines down at under the green. You can see my little green thumb in there, my finger. uh August 29th, 2025 is when it was booked. The flight was booked for 1:42 p.m. from Dallas Fort Worth on September 9th. The problem with that is this is not a um a boarding pass. This is a confir This is just a flight confirmation. You've got a booking. Okay. Well, I could book a flight every day for a year. If I don't get on the flight, that's not evidence I was somewhere else. Now, you show me a boarding pass on this flight. At least I know you were at DFW at 1:42 p.m. I don't know where you were at 8:00 in the morning. I don't know if you were in Sierra Vista, Arizona at Fort Wuka. I don't know if you were on the flight back from Fort Wuka. I can't answer any of that. But at least if you provide me a boarding pass, I am now boxed into the 1:42 p.m. time that at 1:42 p.m. Central time, you were on a flight at DFW. that at least narrows the window. I would submit to you that when you try to provide an alibi and fail there be there arises a rebuttable presumption that you weren't where you claim to be. That's that's my that's what I submit to you. That's how I've always treated people. because If I catch your alibi not working, I don't believe anything else you say. You lose. You lose.You look worse by providing a bad alibi than if you'd have just said nothing. If Brian Harpole had still said nothing, I would be sitting back going, "He might smoke Candace. He might break her down. He might shoot her out of orbit and that is the easiest. You guys want Candace to go away? Hey TPUSA, you guys want Candace to go away? You want her to stop reporting? How about some alibis? Where was Erica Kirk on the night of September 8th? Was she at Fort Wuka? Was she at the You want Candace Owens to go away? Where was Brian Harpole the morning of September 9th? Was he at home at DFW getting ready to make his 1:42 p.m. flight to Salt Lake City? That's how you get her to go away. Where was Maramote? Was he in Washington DC? Why is he not on camera for the committee meeting that was recorded? He's not there that I'm aware of. Then why didn't he take any roll call votes that morning? See, the problem with providing an alibi that fails is it looks like a lie. The fact that you need an alibi means people tend to believe you weren't where you said you were. Now, I want to show you the weirdest thing I've come across yet. And I got to move quickly cuz we're already an hour and 20 minutes into this. And I intended This I I I don't know any other way to set this up other than to say this is Do you see this image right here? This is an image taken by someone of Charlie Kirk before the event. And this is the old man that was standing in the background allegedly st allegedly. This is the old man standing in the background. We now know his name allegedly is Butch Hibbs. And I use the word allegedly intentionally. I use the word allegedly intentionally. I want you to take a very close look at this man. I'll leave this picture up in just a minute. I want you to look at his legs. I want you to look at his pants. See how they fit. Look at his shoes. See how they fit. Now, Charlie Kirk is 66 and Butch Hibs looks to be about 5'8, average size, you know, white male. But I mean, Charlie Kirk is towering over him. What do you notice down here? Those are clown feet. When you're 5'8 and you're wearing, Like those feet are bigger than Charlie's. I don't know a single person in America who's 5'8 wearing shoes that big. Those feet literally are bigger than Charlie's. Look at those pants. Look how they fit. Do you see this guy's either very popular with the ladies or those aren't his shoes? Very popular with ladies or those aren't his shoes? Do you see thigh muscles busting out of these legs, out of these pants? How many pockets do you see on this shirt? I see one here and I see one here. Is it gray or is it green? Look at his beard. I want you to get a really good look at this this face sweater. You get a real good look at that. I've got some other images I'll show you in a moment. But now that you've taken in all the glory that is allegedly Butch Hibbs, I want to show you a video. This was Blake Bedards and I were watching this video together and he walked by and I mean we had a simultaneous meltdown. Bro, is that a real person? I don't think it is. This is allegedly the same person walking up the walking up the scene. This allegedly this is supposed to be the same person walking up. This is the life is driving video. Give him full credit here. This I I can even turn the sound off. It doesn't matter at this point. But I want you to watch this. I'm going to I'm going to play this in slow-mo just so you get it in all its glory.Does that look like the same person to you? Does that look like the same beard? I'll play I'll pull it up again in a second. Look at that beard. Does that look like the same beard? That beard looks weirdly trimmed around his lips. It looks so full and not a single strand of anything but bright white cotton [clears throat] beard. Now look at his sunglasses. Who wears sunglasses like that? I'm not done. I've got more footage. Where's the green? His shirt has gone gray. Oh, it gets better. Better, you say? Better. Just wait. What's the next time stamp? I got it here. All right. So, we scroll forward a little bit and we meet our good friend Hibbs again. Allegedly Hibbs in the background this time. Here's where we're going to find him. He's back here. Those pants are tied on his thighs, tied You see that? Do those look like the Now watch. It gets better. You're going to love this. You're going to absolutely love this. Hold on. I got to I got to roll it forward. This is great. This is the big reveal. Now, this is what I'm saying. It's so weird. It broke my brain. Now, it's possible there's a legitimate explanation. If there is, I'm willing to accept it. Until then, I'm calling this guy allegedly Bruce Hibs. Uh, a Butch Hibs. Well, I guess his real name is Bruce Hibs, but So, this guy's giving an interview. He's talking about the shooting. I guess I could turn the sound back up. >> I'm okay. Kind of shocked. >> Definitely shocking. >> I'm going to 1.25 speed or 1.5 speed. >> We're here at the Charlie Kirk Turning Point USA event. What? Uh, can you >> I I got to set this up. I'm sorry I keep interrupting, but I got to set up. So, we saw allegedly Butch Hibs over in the corner with his gigantic thighs, his gigantic calves, and he's looking much taller than he did a little bit ago. I don't know how that happens. He certainly got fitter in the last 20 minutes, but what and his beard just looked totally different, but just watch. I'm going to point out I'm at 1.5 speed, so it's going a little quick, but you saw where he was standing. Now, watch where he happens to end up here. here. Tell me briefly what happened in your in your eyes. >> Well, my name's Eric. Uh, I was standing about the third level back, so probably 50 ft from Charlie. Um, I heard a shot which took my attention away from Charlie. And when I looked back at him after after the echoes, um, there was there was blood protruding from his neck or his head about six inches or more. Um, literally gushing out neck or head. I'm not quite sure because his head was tilted back. I don't think he's going to survive this shot if you want my opinion. You see that white hat in the background that just appeared right here? It's it's off to this man's shoulder. Like if you take a 45 degree angle from this shoulder over here, it goes right there. See that white hat? Watch who this turns >> I think he got hit in a very vital spot. >> It seemed like it was up close shooter at long range. >> I don't know. It sounded like a higher like a higher caliber like a 9 millimeter. It didn't sound like a 45 or anything, but >> you notice anything missing from his shirt. >> I don't know. It didn't sound that deep to me. It almost sound like a cherry >> do you see something missing? He's missing a pocket. It looks like he's missing a pocket. Like I see that pocket. I don't see that one. The shirt looks green. The shirt looks gray now instead of green. That could just be a white balance issue.But and his beard looks different. He's back to He's back to different beards. So, we're going to I'm going to show you that. I got to back that back up. But just watch here. >> I am too. I can't believe it happened in Utah of all places >> where he had so much support. But obviously the opposition was here and now we're looking at a murder scene possibly. It's obviously a crime scene. But I don't think that Charlie can survive this unless the EMTs were close and it was it was pretty I mean radar level kind of stuff. >> Yeah. >> And there they go. Now I want to go back and show you a couple of different images here. I got to get the freeze frame of him standing next to the camera. Um walking up the stair. So >> let me get him frozen up here next to the camera right there. And I want to pull a freeze frame of uh Charles Mcccleintoch Wilson's other photos of him. You tell me if this is the same guy. It might be. Maybe it is. Maybe it's the same guy. But I'm just I have my doubts. I'm over All right, let me pull these up one at a time. I wish I could get them side by side. Here is image of old man before. Two pockets, two clearly defined pockets with shadows and everything else. Uh, in a beard that to me just looks different. Uh, get him back. I think I've lost him. Let me let me back out of here and see if I can find another image of him walking in. I think that might be the ones I had. Oh, here's another one. Yeah, here's the one I wanted to show you. This just looks like a different guy to me. This just looks like a different guy. Now, it's possible it's not, and I'm just wasting your time, but I'm telling you right now, as I look at this, that looks like a different guy. So, get that get that image burned in your head. I I don't know. I can't figure out why they would need to do this. That's the biggest problem I have. Like he doesn't look like the same person. He almost looks like he's wearing a mask. His glasses are all jacked up cuz he can't feel his face. The totally different beard in my opinion. But I look at it, I'm like, but why? If you wanted two people to just put a different person there. Like why would you go through the process of having fake Butch Hibs? That doesn't make sense to me. That doesn't that doesn't make sense to me. So anyway, that exists. Uh here's the last image I'll show. Again, we'll go back to this one because I think this one's the important followup. That looks like a different beard. It just looks like a different beard. And again, those look like different legs. Oh boy. Before look jacked. Oh boy, look Jack. But whatever. Maybe this is just Butch Hibs. He's got size 14 sleds and his beard is miraculous at some angles and in some lighting and in others it's not. Maybe the pocket's really there and it just doesn't look like it's there. I don't know. But I saw it and I thought, I've got to raise this issue. I've just got to raise I knew you guys would get a kick out of that. I need to I knew you'd get a kick out of it. All right, finally. Last last one here. I got one more thing. I got too daggum many screens open. All right, this is the last one and then we're going to get to some of your comments. This is amazing. Nicki Minaj takes to the U uh TPUSA stage. I don't know if she's a fan of the Real Baron podcast or not. I don't know if she even knows what a Sam triple0ero is, but if she does, she said this. All right. I can't handle the awkwardness. No audio. Really? Oh, man.>> I swear you guys deserve better than this. I swear you guys deserve better than this. This is the second time I failed you tonight. Let me try it again. You This is This is unacceptable. Where did it go? Uh here we go. I think it's because I shared it on the wrong format here. See if you can hear this. Uh give me a give me a quick answer. >> You are young men. You have amazing role models like our handsome, dashing president. [applause] And you have amazing role models like the assassin JD Vans, our vice president. And when I I trust me, there's nothing new under the sun that I have not heard. So, >> Yes, we did. >> I love you. >> You have to laugh about it. Truly, I have been called every single thing. And you know what? God is so good. You let it roll right off your back. And this is what's so beautiful about this moment. >> Absolutely 100% without a doubt one of the most awkward moments I've ever seen on video. I've never seen anything more awkward than it. Here's my problem. I Googled. I geminied. I clauded. I groed. I chatgpted. Hell, I'll even get on Yahoo in a minute. I can't find where assassin is a compliment. I don't even know what unless you're saying she thinks he took Charlie Kirk's life or at least played a role in it. I don't know what else she's talking about. Like I do you watch the program. I think I might be the only person in America who's linked JD Vance to a potential plot here. And I don't even know that I've linked him. I've just raised the idea that a Sam triple0ero typically is a vice president. I I can't imagine what you were trying to say. There's nothing there's nothing you can say where that is a something that makes sense. Oh, I was just complimenting him. He's amazing. He's an assassin. What? What? I mean, maybe you're saying he's really stealthy and sharp. I don't I don't even know. Don't call me an assassin. Don't call me an assassin. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. All right, guys. Let me get to some of your uh your comments here. Uh don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel, share the video with people. Uh we cover a lot of good content here. If you're new to the program, welcome in. Happy solstice 7th night of Hanukkah to each Bow and Bell and Baron's band of slle. Uh happy all of that and more to you, sir. It's December or ma'am, uh it's December 20 uh 1st. December 21st. Uh how many conflicting reports of Charlie's dying? E instantly then had a pulse then surgery. Why on a dead man? Um because you're lying liars from Liarville because you guys violate the eighth commandment all the time. I don't I I mean I I just I think they were lying to buy time because that's what they do. They lie. Uh judges here uh with his weird amount. I think I get the sweepings of whatever's left in the judge's checking account at the end of the month. Sunday Sunday $9.99 Super Chat buys the entire seat of the Real Baron podcast. But you'll need you'll only need the edge. That's right. You don't need a whole seat to watch this podcast. No sir. who just need the front edge. Uh people got forgot about Zachariah Careshi. I did not. Made no sense to detain him unless he was their first psy choice, but he was right up front near CK so the video would exonerate him. Switch to py number two. Uh oh, you're saying you think he was the initial psy and this was just a backup. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I hadn't considered that. I hadn't considered that at all. Uh uh Acts 8:33.Ladies and gentlemen, I got to I'm old, so let me turn so I can see the light. In his humiliation, justice was denied him. Who will tell of his posterity? For his life is taken from the earth. Uh all right, you heard it here first. Curious Joel. I tried to make a comment about some specific thing Candace revealed about a certain group of people in her last episode, and no matter how I edit it, I couldn't post it. It wasn't that bad. Ben Shapiro, are you in the chat? Uh, more more importantly, Ben Shapiro, are you controlling the algorithm? Are you controlling the algorithm? Uh, I saw a video where the SUV trunk came up right as they were doing hand signals that possibly shot in the SUV. Yeah, I think that was a trigger smart video actually. Um, I see what they're saying, but I don't I don't necessarily buy that. I don't think there was a gunshot. I'm starting to get the point where I don't think there's a gunshot. I think what I think what you're hearing on the crack thumps and why they're having trouble figuring out where those come I'm I'm I'm to that point. let's see here. I hope you enjoy my new profile pick of falling asleep to you and Valhalla BFT's podcast. Hey, I've done it. I listen to this. This is not a joke. So, I fell asleep the other day. got Valhalla in the ears. He's He's on late. He's on the West Coast, I think. And so I'm up late. And uh I wake up, it's like 1:32 in the morning. HE'S STILL ON. HE'S STILL LIVE. HE WENT LIVE at like 700 p.m. I have no idea how long that show long that show was, but I woke up. He was still on the air. I thought, "What the heck, man?" Like I try I try to get you people to bed early. Um who's watching Netflix? Nobody. No. No. We watch Baron Ian Valhalla. Yes. Yes. There's your lineup. That's all you need. Uh, speaking of being awake in the middle of the night, 2 a.m. in Cape Town, wide awake, waiting on your opening monologue. You're definitely the OG of monologues. I hope uh I had one person that didn't like it. [laughter] Had one person that didn't like it. Uh, maybe more. I'm normally too cheap to super chat, but at the mention of the name of Jesus, I felt I had to support. Thank you for being upfront about the gospel. You're welcome. You're welcome. I uh I'm just tired of being gaslit into the idea that we as Christians have to put everybody else first. I I'm tired of it. You want to lead this country, be a professing believer of Christ, or I'm not voting for you. That's where I That's where I am now. You want to be my city councilman. You want to be my state senator? I'm I'm in the same boat all up and down the ticket. I'm done. I'm done. Done. Done. Done. Done. Done. Let me see. I'm about to be a little selective because it's late and we uh we have uh quite a few here. Holy every single word of your intro. Nailed it. Yes, boss. Totally nailed it. Thank you for going, Max. Happy Christmas to you and your family. Uh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, does Candace know about my electrocution theory? She does. Um, she heard from someone that the hands did not look in person like they looked on the video. I am not as convinced as she is. I don't know who she talked to, but I don't know that I trust that person. Uh, electricity takes a path of least resistance. So if you got hit via microphone then the electricity would travel through his conducive conductive body to any other muddy metal touching near his body.Don't forget uh well I'm not going to comment on the flow of electricity. I'm not going to comment on it. Uh amen sir. Well said. We stand alone together. Yes major. We do. Uh okay. You win. The government clearly was complicit in murdering an American citizen. What do you recommend now? Email congressman. Take up arms. Not the last part. I don't recommend taking up arms. Uh, you know, we're not there yet. Um, I think we've got I think we just have to keep going. I think we have to get to the point where the evidence becomes so overwhelming that nobody can ignore it. Just like, you know, it's it's becoming pretty well known that the government and maybe foreign governments had a role in killing JFK and it wasn't Lee Harvey Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository Sixth Floor window. You know how people are pretty sure, at least a lot of people becoming growingly aware that the idea that in 1969 using less computing power than is available on an abacus, they somehow made it to the moon on one tank of gas. But now they're talking about needing like 32 rockets and then we can't get there. Uh urgent email tip sent from shabby girl. It's a baby girl. All right, I'll look. I'll look. I'll look. I'll look. Uh Baron, I'm very much saved and Christian and a proud Democrat. Jesus is my Lord and Savior. That statement was wrong and only divides us. Many dems are Christians. still love your channel. Uh, yeah, maybe. Um, you know, they're single issue voters. I'll give you that. They're single issue voters, but what I'm saying is I'm speaking of generalities. Like, generally speaking, when you think of like a guy who goes to First Baptist in small town America, who's he voting for, right? He's voting for Trump. You think of a guy who is like anti-Christian, hates God, you know? Uh, that guy voted for Camela. That guy voted for Biden. He voted for Obama. I'm just talking in in vague generalities. Yes, you'll have some single issue voters. And maybe that's you. I think if you look at the totality of the two platforms, it's it be it becomes a little more difficult. But a single issue voter like, yeah, I mean, hell, I might become a single issue voter on these wars. You run somebody that says, "I am going to withdraw from every foreign entanglement anywhere on the earth." I don't care what letters after the name, you're getting my vote. You're stealing it. You're basically forcing me to vote for you. God bless you and merry Christmas. Well, thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well. As a Christian, I cannot disagree with your perspective regarding Christmas and Jesus. God first, family first, and country first. Attempting to al alter this is simply fraud. Uh, yeah. Thank you. Did I see Candace show uh last show where she said Mitch Erica was meeting her ex-boyfriend? I saw that. It will be very interesting to see how that holds up. I you know I don't hope it holds up or not holds up. I hope the truth holds up. Whatever the truth is uh if if Mitch is to be believed. And look here's my problem. I don't know Mitch. I don't know anything about his record. I don't know anything about his integrity, his veracity, his his propensity to tell the truth. I don't know. The only thing I know is that Candace allegedly has vetted where he was when he was and and somehow that matches up. Somehow that adds up. If it turns out that what everything he's saying is true, there's a lot of explaining that needs to be done.If it turns out any of it falls short, if one person he put at Fort Wuka can prove they weren't there, it'll become problematic very quickly. to date, nobody has. Erica Kirk has yet to say, "Here's where I was on September 8th." Brian Harpole has yet to put out a legitimate piece of evidence says, "Here's where I was at 7:30 a.m. on the morning of September 9th." Same with uh the ex-boyfriend uh whatever his name was. He's got some prissy name, Chateau or something. Chateau Phipe, whatever his name is. What's his name? Kat Phillips. Kat Phillips. That's a prissy name. He's probably a nice guy, but totally appreciate it. Actually, he's not because I know where he works [laughter] and I can't trust him. I can't trust him. Thank you, uh, Mary. Very generous. Uh, merry Christmas. Thank you for your time, dedication. Love your intros. The black charge were so profound. Glad you focused on them. Christ is king. Yeah, those Chris is king. I don't know who Chris is, but I He's not my king. Um, the black charge changed the entire dynamic for me. no longer. As soon as I saw the black uh fragmented plastic in the back seat, this case totally fundamentally changed. Totally fundamentally changed. No longer was a bullet necessary. We now have the proof we lacked of why the shirt moved. I'm telling you, it's a it was a total game changer for me. Total game changer for me. Uh I if government acquisition, you need help finding contract. I was stationed in Colorado Springs 12 years. Do you have any question answered? Uh, thank you, Big Daddy Waller. I, uh, I was in the government contracting world for a little while. I know my way around a system or two. Um, your opening was the best. You're pulling all of this together for us. Thank you for all of your work. Thank you, Linda. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Linda. Uh, very kind. Very, very kind. Uh, is this Turkish money? Are we big in Turkey? Is this is what You guys got to tell me. Uh, is it is it you guys are using VPNs and so it thinks you're in Turkey so it donates LRA or are you really in Turkey and you're really donating LRA? That's I' I've been wanting to ask somebody that. Uh, 100% agree with your opening. Thank you, Bllandon Blondong, if that is your real name. Atlas must shrug. $99. Wow. $100. They don't do pennies anymore, so that'd be rounded up in any store. Uh, thank you, Alice. Very, very generous. Very, very kind and generous. All this connecting is really scary. They blew up an entire plant to get rid of evidence. They paved over an entire crime scene to get rid of evidence. It seems that way. And in my opinion, that's very possible. I'll say that. I don't want to I don't want to state it as fact quite yet. Um, but it sure seems that way. There's a lot of timeline and overlap that seems to make a lot of sense. And there's some additional stuff on that plant that I did not release today because I've not run it down all the way. It's even more suspicious than I made it. Believe it or not, I you guys can't say I try to shade everything. Like I purposely withheld two key facts that make it look even worse for that plant. I purposely withheld them because I'm not more than 50% sure on them yet. But when I get there, we're revisiting this. Uh thank you, Super Sticker. God bless you, too, Hebby. Uh, think their PR strategy is pretty obvious once you watch the timing. Public speculation hits, then explanations and new details appear. That just happened to address it. Yeah, I've noticed.I've noticed, noticed, noticed. Uh, my big question, why didn't they have one or two security guys looking around protecting the scene? They all dove over the table. Doesn't security look for threats during the scene unless they knew already. Well, unless they had to tear stuff off of his body and cover him up and get him out of there. I'm to the point where that's what they were doing back there. They were tearing stuff off of his body and hiding it. Like that's that's where I am. I will also say there's a guy who pulls out something with a handle about this big or maybe bigger out of his front pocket and you can see his hand doesn't wrap all the way around it. See how my hand doesn't wrap all the Whereas most pistols they do. This is not a pistol, by the way, but most pistols they do. Your hand wraps around it. Um, I look for things that you might use under your belt that your hand doesn't wrap around and the story doesn't get any cleaner. Let me tell you that. In my opinion, Trigger Smart and Bray blew this case wide open. It makes the most sense given the plant explosion, the fourboard picture, and the resurfacing of the UVU venue. Thank you for your work, sir. Yeah, I think it was a great show. You guys should definitely give TriggerSmart a a subscribe and uh and watch the program. Go over to John Aaron Bray on Twitter. J O N A A R O N B R A Y over on Twitter. And um it's interesting. It's it's it's a different it's a different game after Candace showed the black plastic flex. It's a different game. It's a totally different game. Which is why I took to the took to the podcast Thursday and freaked out on air. More than one person said, "Why did you freak out?" That's why. It's a total game changer. Uh, you're killing it. Two of Frank Turk's sons are in the Air Force. His oldest works for the Joint Staff. I knew that. I'm also worried about the hit piece Alex Jones has planned for Candace and her safety. I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't worry about it. I I doubt I doubt Alex has much more than an opinion. You know, there's this I'm not getting into that fight. I wouldn't worry about it. I doubt he knows much. Uh, Cuba baby Cuba by girl email. Interesting analysis. It was a pneumatic device. Um, I'll read anything. If you send me an email, I'll look at it. Um, thank you. I'm driving. Oh, I'm sitting. Don't close your eyes if you're drive. If I ever tell you to close your eyes and you're driving, don't if I ever because I think in my opening I said close your eyes and picture Don't don't close your eyes. Uh the very first thing I remember was that there may have been a ricochet from body armor fragment into neck and I remember seeing a photo of the body armor at his collar. Can't find it, but the armor was skin colored. Anyone? No. I think that's just the fog of war. Everybody saw stuff that wasn't there. That was the That was everybody's first impression on day one because when the shirt moves that much, you assume it something made contact with it. That's not what happened. Uh from day one, I've been wondering if the mic exploded that was connected to Charlie Kirk shirt even have search history from a month ago where I was looking up if there explosive devices like that. Well, there are. [laughter] There are absolutely. Uh I wonder if there's footage of who Mike Charlie there is. It was the the Philip guy, the 1776 hat. That's who miked him. Footage of how Hunter was able to ask second question. Was he approached?Footage of those moments maybe on camera. Love from Elizabeth. Uh there's some of it. Yeah. Erica saying she knew everything in that early interview. I believe that. Great job, Aaron. God bless. Run to you is born this day in the city of David a savior who is Christ the Lord. Uh Doss Green, thank you. Very generous donation. You guys are very generous. Uh say so what you're saying is so what you were saying is they destroyed the plant that produced the explosive. A mysterious shooter killed an MIT professor who could be involved in a computer program. They put concrete over the area of the crime allegedly. I'm saying all that's probable. Look, they they paved over the crime scene for a reason. If there are little black flexcks and explosive re residue or you can't leave that there like that has to go away because you don't think when Ian was there when George Webb was there when uh Gary from Paramount was there when uh uh who else? Steven Gardner was there uh a lot of people have been to that scene. You don't think any of them would have looked around at the ground and what all this flex and all it takes is one person having a seizure right there because they get this explosive re residue on them and now you got a real problem. Now you got a real problem. Uh super chat is in support of your excellent going Christmax opening. Yeah, that's just where I am. I'm tired of it. People can people can come to their own conclusion. I don't judge you, but that's who I'm voting for. That's who I'm voting for. Uh, does the FBI have the mic and the handheld mic? I have no idea. I have no doubt they have something. I don't know whether it was the stuff that was used. Uh, when about what about a World War II area era incendiary round M1306 containing the IM11 compound, the lacks I don't know. That's a lot. Katie, you bringing that you bringing that to me at 8 minutes till 8 on a Sunday night. I will admit I had looked up the uh the the you know there are certain types of rounds that produce electrical charges when they hit. I looked those up. So if that's what you're talking about, I have looked into that actually. Uh used to get excited about Sunday Night Football. This is way better. You talking about sports ball? [laughter] Love the show. I used to get excited about Sunday Night Football back when the Colts were good. Yeah, I sports have lost it for me. I I used to be a big sports nut. Let me see if I can find it easily. There's a book called on uh there's a book called The Pon by I know it's on that bookcase, but I don't see it. There's a book called The Pon by Bla1 Pascal. He was like a 15th maybe a 14th century French philosopher and and there's several essays on diversion and he talks about how when you divert your attention this is the big cause of diversion today ladies and gentlemen this right here but in his essay essay he's talking about diversion of fox hunting or the diversion of big game hunting but he says when you're diverting your attention it's because you're scared of your own mortality you're not right with God. And and I I take that to heart with sports and I try to put them in their proper place. Don't replace your god with an oblong leather ball. Uh your electric your electrician theory makes sense. Charlie's hand at the funeral. They always place the left hand over the right hand. The only time when they don't is when someone is obese. Hands too small. Are you telling me fatties get their own funeral? I'm looking this up.Uh, funeral hands. Will that will that get me there? Funeral hands casket. Will that get me there? Images. Is that uh That's how I sleep. Oh my gosh. They do. Wow. It's always that way. Why were his not that way? That's weird though, y'all. I look like I'm dead when I'm sleeping. I guess I sleep just like that. On my back, hands over my stomach, one hand over the other. I had no idea. That's weird. That's weird. You picked up on that. Uh Charlie was not obese. I didn't know fatties got their own funeral either. They get their own like funeral rights. We would cross your hands, but you liked crispy cream and soda, so your hands are going to be separated for all of eternity. Now, maybe they put them in a way that as your body kind of goes down over time, they'll they'll make their way back together. Like they start out out here because you you you're too big and but over time they kind of come in and then like 10 years later you've you've you're you're down enough that they kind of come in. That could be uh love the opening statement. Thank you, Edge. Fantastic coverage. Trigger smart and John nailed it. We they're [snorts] the best. Uh, captivated, waiting for the next investigative discovery. And when we align, it's Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We're working on it. We're working on it. Uh, wow. Courtney, thank you. Your opening statement, sir. Chef's kiss. You're spot on. We're done and 100% not going to compromise. Bad cop. Merry Christmas. I'm done. I'm telling you, the best way you can lose in my opinion, people are sick of it. The best way you can lose an election right now as a Republican or any kind of conservative, run someone who's not a Christian. We're done. I'm done. Thank you. Uh very generous, Courtney. You guys are amazing. Uh for over an hour, we all heard reports about Charlie Kirk being alive but critical. This aligns with Chess Pew Pew narrative who gave these reports. I I can only assume those were coming out of TPUSA to kind of give up the try to make it look like something. I don't know. This has been my theory from the first week. Tyler was never on the roof, never fired that gun. His role at most was taking the gun to where he was told to take it. Fellow trial attorney here. Yeah, that's been my theory for a while. I don't think he was on the roof. I think I think someone was on the roof surely to make noise or just to be seen running away to draw attention towards the rifle. Like if there's nobody running from the the scene, are the feds going to be able to direct the local cops? Hey, you should look there. Oh, we just looked there. Look there again. Oh, we ran our dogs over there. They didn't see anything. Look over there again. Look, look. Move right, right, right back. Two steps. Two steps. Now, move the leaves. You see that towel? Open it. Oh, there's the gun. There it is. THERE IT THERE'S THE GUN. [screaming] Good job, local cops. Because that's how it worked. That's how it worked. Um, love your opening statement. One of my favorite podcasts. Been waiting all day for your show. Great work. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thank you. Very generous. Uh, thank you, Tracy. Uh, letting Tom Artium Alexanderich go unpunished would only embolden other predators to seek opportunities overseas to harm children. Yeah. I don't know who I don't know if you're quoting somebody. I saw your quote. Yeah. I mean, anybody who comes to the United States and seeks to harm children.He's talking about a I think an Israeli national who came over here for a conference or some security maybe a computer conference and while he was here tried to hook up with an underage child or at least got caught trying to I think is the story. I'm not 100% sure the all the details, but instead of holding him here and making him serve prison time, they let him go Likewise, if somebody does that over there and they're American, don't let them come back here. Punish them. Punish them. Throw away the key. Super sticker. Dire. Thank you. You guys are incredible. Dire back for more. 20. [laughter] Thank you, Dire. Twice. Twice. Uh, super sticker. Why isn't there a completed and released autopsy? I'm sure it's complete, but I don't I just don't think it's been released. And that's going to be up to Erica. I think she's the owner, right? Wouldn't the Wouldn't the next Ken be the one who gets to determine if it gets released? I don't know Utah law. I don't know Utah law. Keep up the great work. We never miss a pod and our one-year-old gets just as excited for you, Candace, Tucker, and Ian, as she does Mickey. [laughter] Your one-year-old is brainwashed. Hey, brainwash your kids. Can't wait for Baron, Ian, Nate collab. Stay safe. Yeah. Uh Nate dropped that bomb on his show the other day. We're going to try I'm in. I guess Ian would be in as well. I I'm not going to speak for Ian. You're you should brainwash your kids. The left is going to brainwash them. You might as well brainwash them. Like anyone telling you not to brainwash your kids is telling you that so they can brainwash your kids instead. Brainwash your kids. Indoctrinate them. Raise them upright. Teach them the way to go. Don't Don't listen uh don't listen to anyone who tells you, "Oh, the kid will make their own decision." Okay. Yeah, this kid's four. Kid's not making his own decision. No four-year-old makes their own decision. Or else they're going to eat cookies three times a day for meals. Uh, hey Baron, atheist whole life looking into Catholicism first after learning about the shroud of trin. Second, how you carry yourself? Oh, thank you. How would I get started and your thoughts on the shroud of trin? Um, I I'm pretty intrigued by it. Um, modern science can't replicate it. Uh, it appears to me to be what it purports to be. Reasonable minds can disagree. Um, but you know, and I'm aware that, you know, the 1200s, I'm not doing a whole show on the shroud right now, but I'm aware there's some debate and good faith debate, but I I'm I'm pretty confident it is what it is. Um, as for how I carry myself, well, thank you. Um, I hope I'm never judged by my lowest moments. I've certainly had some, uh, but, you know, I like to judge people by their complete body of work. Um, myself included. And, uh, how would you get started into Catholicism? First, find a good priest. and talk to that priest about how to get started. As soon as you're you can ask your priests um do you believe uh you know do you do you believe in the uh transubstantiation, right? Like every priest should say yes. Like ask your priest some pretty introductory things. Do you believe in angels and demons? it it as soon as you get a no on anything pretty big like pretty basic and fundamental walk away and find another one. They're bad priests out there just like they're bad Baptist preachers. I see them all over Twitter. [laughter] Whoever Ali Best Stugies is is bad. So whoever's teaching her is bad.So what I'm saying is just find a good one and then say what do I need to do and they'll work with you. A good one will work with you. Uh maybe I missed previously. How are you able to see the burns under his shirt just under his nipple that you talk about? Uh, I have I have access to a photo that that I've been asked not to make public and but I but I was told I can describe it and so I have um maybe that we'll work on that. We'll work on that. But that's why that's why uh Baron in my opinion Coleman in my opinion [snorts] my last name is Coleman. [laughter] Uh, glad I found you. With your intelligence and personality, your channel will explode in a good way. Not not like Charlie Kirk's microphone. Uh, as a fellow Catholic, I genuinely pray you don't change. Stay humble and always seek the truth. Arm yourself with the sacraments. I'm doing my best, sir. I'm doing my best. I can't. No, I can't. I can't guarantee. I mean, look, I'll quit before I do go the bad way. Like I I watched Chappelle's thing last night, his new special, and he's like, "Look, I'm gonna give you a code word. If I ever utter the code word, you know they've got me." And uh and his code word was, "I stand with Israel." [laughter] My same code word. Uh could they have been setting it up to look like a murder with Charlie believing he would only be shocked and then go into hiding, but the impact was far greater than expected? Maybe he wouldn't even had to go into hiding. uh sent you an email on Friday of black's plastic falling from Charlie's left arm within one second of the shooting. I have been on this explosion theory and see plastic falling back on September 20th. Uh I'll check that. I have not uh checked every email from uh Friday to now. I have I've gotten a little behind this weekend. I had a child's birthday to celebrate. I had to get away from my computer for a little while. Um, I knew I was going to spend the bulk of today preparing for this program and so I had to get away yesterday and just put it away. I didn't do the show Friday that I usually do. Um, I did it Thursday instead. So, I just switched those days around. Um, but I knew Ian was going to be live Friday and Val, it was selfish. Ian was going to be live and Valhala was going to be live and I wanted to watch them both [laughter] really what it came down to. So, um, sorry. Sorry about that. Uh, stop teasing us with what you think. Oh, well, you're just kidding. I don't tease. I don't tease. Charlie was in on it. Erica was in on it. They were all in on it. And they blanked it up. The best laid plans. Liars often fail. They've been trying to cover it up ever since. I'm starting to wonder how much truth there is to that. Sir, I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't a production gone arai. Kelly Rabone was in the interview with John Bray and Trigger. Go follow her. She's smart and fun to watch. I didn't catch her name and she was having some audio issues so she wasn't a full participant because I don't think John could hear her if you go back and watch that. Um, but what she did say I liked quite a lot. She had a great presence. I just, you know, I was talking about his channel and and and the guest. I wasn't slighting her by any stretch of the imagination. I wonder where the plastic fragments are. They could be tested for explosive material. I'll tell you where they are. In the dump. They they totally gutted that car and uh and sold it at auction. That's where it is. Why do you think they did that?Why do you think they sold it at auction? Because if they'd have put that thing back into fleet service, the FBI could have showed up later and go, "Can we dust this for explosives?" Then it would have been all over the place. Now, good luck finding it. Uh Charlie thought they were going to kill him, agreed to fake his death, plan went bad, he really died. I don't think he planned to fake his death. I don't want to go that far. I'm not saying that. am absolutely not commenting on that. That is not my position and I don't believe I'll ever get to that position. Uh my position is slightly more nuanced than that. Uh thank you for your investigation. However, I'm now heartbroken to finally realize our country is just as corrupt as the others we have historically looked down our nose at. Just so sad. Yeah. When I was a kid, we used to I grew up I was a kid in the 80s, right? I was born in the late 70s, kid all through the 80s and 90s. The Soviet Union was the evil empire. You know, we had Rocky fighting the Russian, Ivan Drago. Uh we had Wolverines, Red Dawn fighting the Russians, right? Coming in the United States. That was like our dream. Like we g every day we woke up, we're like, "Is that guy Russian?" Like we wanted a shot. [laughter] That's just how we lived. Every Russian was evil and awful. Every American was phenomenal. That's just how we lived. every day of our life was, you know, and I remember at the time I, you know, as a naive 8-year-old, you're like, "Now, why do we hate the Soviets again?" And they're like, "You can't say what you think over there. We have freedom of speech here. You can say anything you want. There no consequences. You go [snorts] over there and you say something and the police show up at your door." I watched a video on Twitter today. A guy in the United States in Detroit, I think he was, posted some meme and the FBI showed up at his door. I go back to 1987. Why do we hate the Soviets again? Cuz if you say something and they don't like it, the police will show up at your door. I'm thinking, we're here. We're here. Uh why would uh Charles McClintac Wilson allow you would he allow you to crop only the wound and show us literally only the wound where nobody could tell whether it's Charlie Kirk or just a pick of a wound off Google? Someone may recognize the wound and know its source. That's my plan. I intend to ask him that. I'm just not there yet. Um I'll get there. I'll get there. I've got so much on my plate. You don't know how busy I am. I do intend to get there uh when I'm ready to do it. See, there's a here's the thing. There's a whole line of thought that goes with this. And it's pointless to have I'm not just going to show the picture for shock value. If I can't tell you what I think it is, I'm not going to show it. Well, I'll I'll show it anyway, but I don't want to show it before I have an idea of what I think it is. And I think I'm close. I think I'm close. Working on it. Working on it. Uh, blue t-shirt guard and female cam op are on camera having combo. Five minutes for events. Security guard points to where the shot to come from and points to his neck. Girl immediately does same thing. Oh, I have not seen that. I have to look that up. I I haven't seen that. Where's that video? Can you email that to me? A real [email protected]. [email protected]. Where are my banners? Oh, there they are. Uh, which one is the There we go. [email protected], someone asked for my Vinmo earlier. There you go. Uh, don't forget to subscribe, click notifications, like. All right, back to the uh NP Lisa. Thank you. And you listen. Wow. Uh, average fishy boy. [laughter] Mike Mash makeup artist equals Hibs. Mike Mash. Who's Oh, is this the guy the uh does he have bigger legs than Butch Hibs? Because if so, then it very well could be him. Um I'm telling you what, it's some I don't I am weirded out by that. The whole uh Butch Hibs looking like a different person thing. I I don't know. I don't know. Uh, let's see here. Uh, Cabbat Phillips aka Erica's ex spotted with Erica 98. Fort Wuka9 has a photo on his IG showing the word pizza tattooed inside his lip and creepy replies he's replacing Charlie on campus events currently. WTF I'm still weirded out his name's Cabbat. Like, I can't get over that part of it. [laughter] I can't like be careful what you name your kids. Be careful what you name your kids. You give them a weird name. They might be weird and tattoo pizza inside of their lips. You never know. What I really appre appreciate you about uh about you, Baron, is that you're willing to openly and thoroughly explore different possibilities instead of shooting them down and mocking them. You, Candace, and Ian are truly number one. Thank you. Um yeah, I just look I've looked into a lot of different theories. I'll just follow them where they go. I've looked into probably 10 or 20 including Palm Gun Guy that I just cannot get behind and so I never raise them on the on the program. But when I finally get to a point where I'm like, "Hey, wait a minute. That that at least needs to be investigated." I bring it to you. You guys email me. You give me your thoughts in comments and chats and we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out one way or the other. If Charlie had a fake plot, he was certain TP was infiltrated, but he ended up dead. Who's the rat who shared the plan to fake it and close enough to him to known the infiltration fake plot? So, so let me let me I I guess I got to I've said too much. I got to go ahead and give you part I give you a little more. I don't think Charlie would have faked his death. I want to be clear about that. I don't think he would have faked his death. I do think it's not out. I think it's in the realm of possibility he could have potentially wanted to fake getting shot. I hate to say it. but I mean he braced. He braced. I can't get over He braced. I can't get over it. I don't know if he did or not. I I don't know if he faked it or he intended to fake it or he was planning on faking it or if he was in on it. I don't know. I do know he wasn't shot in the neck with a 30 odd six. I do know Tyler Robinson didn't shoot him with a gun. I do know his shirt moved in a way that it looks like there was some propulsion under his shirt that was not extrinsic to his body. That was not extrinsic to uh his shirt. I mean, it was under the shirt. I do know that. I do know all of that. I'm confident in Maybe he was unaware. There's one there's there's one thing I'm running down. If I can get to that, I think I'll know the answer one way or the other. I'm very close to getting it to Baron. You're on the right track. 100%. The exploding mic pack on his chest is the most plausible explanation. Give it a date, man. He was never supposed to take neck damage. Great work, man. I'm a new fan and I think it's important to support your work. Thank you, Alaska Savage.Very generous donation for a new fan. Very generous. And let me say this. I think uh the exploding mic pack has merit and needs to be investigated. I think the necklace has merit and needs to be investigated. I do not trust for a second Erica Kirk having access to that necklace all night before Charlie Kirk left the next day. I think the idea that she held it up out the window was creepy to me. It was like holding up a trophy. Um and that's not a that St. Michael metal doesn't look real to me. Like that's not one you would buy in the store that I'm aware of. And any competent bench jeweler could make one. And so if you were going to compromise jewelry like that, then it like that's how you would do it. You would have two of them made, one of them compromised, one of them not compromised. You would hold it up afterwards. You would make a big deal about the oh the FBI checked the SUV and the necklace was just laying right on top of the bag. It was just laying right there on top of the bag. Don't buy it. Don't buy it. Ken Simpson. 5150. Is that that 5150? Isn't that mean you're crazy? [laughter] Doesn't that mean you're nuts? Join the crowd, brother. Uh, it makes sense now why they removed the dirt and paved over the area. That's I mean, that's that's that makes the most sense to me. It makes no sense. If he got shot in the neck, why you would do any of that? Makes total sense if there's an explosion you got to cover up. They remove the black powder and powder and pla and cyclonite and plastic from blast. Hurry and get SD cards, too. Yeah. Yeah, it makes the most sense to me as well. Uh, two different people. Oh, you talking about Butch. For whatever reason, every time a camera was on, that man was intentional about getting in front of it. He wanted to he wanted to place a Butch Hibs at the scene during the aftermath for some reason. It looks like two people to me. I'm not married to that idea. It looks like it. It's weird. I thought it was fun. It was a heavy show. I thought we'd keep it light towards the end with a Is this Butch Hibs? The tag on Butch's shirt was red and then turned black in the later pictures right above Left Pocket. I'll have to go back and check that. I didn't notice. Uh, did they debunk the special effects guy that looks like Butch Hibs being there? I don't think so. I've not heard they they've they've debunked that. Uh, Butch is the same in all pictures. The sleeve hides the pocket in pick two. The lighting changes his beard, but the dude is still the dude and he's still in on it. Uh, I can't say he's in on it, but He's [clears throat] totally creepy. No offense, Butch. Your brother's creepy, too. I I just call it like I see it. I also know I know a guy that lives in Smyrna. They used to work in radio. If you get to that point, you want to produce her. Also, is Nicki Minaj high drunk? Did she say assassin Vance? What the Yeah, she did. She did say that. Um I you know I do I I am going to have to have somebody help me produce the program. I I've talked to a couple people. Um I'm real weird about because this is in my house. I'm real weird about people coming in my house. So I am talking to people I know and I'm talking about people doing remotely. So maybe we'll see. I'd like somebody I know. No, no offense to you people I don't know, but uh CK became rich and got his family and friends rich from TPUSA's grift. He was murdered because of greed and power.The worst is TPUSA is trying to use Christianity to shield their grift. Tyler Robinson wasn't the shooter. Charlie Kirk was killed by his closest. Yeah, I mean I'm pretty like it. I mean, I might not have used all those words and I might have thrown an allegedly or that's my opinion in there. >> [laughter] >> But yeah, that's kind of where I am on all of it. I'm so sick of the Christian grift. Like Christianity is an exclusive club. I if look, it ain't for everybody. But stop this business about like, well, here's how Christ said you could be saved. But you get a DNA exception if you're born in a certain area. No. No, you don't. You don't. Like you're judged on, go read Matthew 25. You're judged on your own merit. You're judged on your own decision. You're judged on whether or not you do the acceptance routine. That's how you're judged. The goats and the sheep. There's no DNA exception. Stop telling Hey, let me tell you. Let me pull this down real quick. Thank you for your comment. Uh Panther Minus, you're very generous. This number of times you've done this $50 gift. Thank you. Let me let me say something. If you know the gospel requires certain things and you go tell an entire group of people they get a free path and don't pass and don't have to follow it, you're evil. Because you just doomed them. You just condemned them. Like if Jesus said everybody has to go get a tattoo of a star on their chest. I I'm just saying like if those were words in red in the Gospels, they're not, by the way. Don't go do that. I mean, if you want to, fine. But don't don't do it because I said it. But let's just say Jesus said that, "Hey, it's super easy, guys. You want to be a follower of mine, you got to get a star tattooed on your chest. And if you don't have it, you're not getting in." And that was like the end of this chapter. And then they turn around and he's off, you know, gallivanting around and talking to mustard trees or something in the next chapter. Like the chapter's over. And then you go out to someone and you say, "I know Jesus said this about the star, but you're good. We know who your folks are. You're fine." Like, you don't really have No, you're evil at that point. You're evil at that point. That if if if you if you're giving people exceptions that aren't in the book, you're evil. I'm I'm sorry. I call a spade a spade. I want to get back to old school religion. Like, you might disagree with me, but at least you know where I stand. That's it. That's it. Thoughts on Alex Jones comments on Candace Owens? Uh, I watched them. I didn't see much there. It was like a 32-minute video that he could have done in 10 seconds. Like, I don't like what she said. Okay, cool, bro. I like some of the things Alex says. I don't like some of the things Alex says. I'm supposed to do a 32-minute video saying I don't like it every time he does something I don't like. Come on, stop it. Stop it. This whole idea that people are worried about can Oh, I'm so worried about her. Oh, I'm so worried. You should see how scared I am for Candace's mental health. Stop it. Stop. We're all grown-ups here. We're all grown-ups. Just say I either I disagree or I agree. Whatever. But stop with the I'm so scared for her mental health routine. It's just not right. JD Vance is a hunter. I saw him and his buddies on a podcast when they were getting together go hunting. Makes you wonder. No, it doesn't make me wonder like that. A lot of things make me wonder. That's not among them.[laughter] That doesn't make me wonder at all. I can you imagine a world where the sitting VP was he going to climb up there in a $6,000 suit belly roll up to the front of the Loi Center lean out there? Come on. This one's for you, Usha. [laughter] No. Stop it. Does not make me wonder at all. Doesn't make me wonder at all. Anybody tested the shot with a necklace, mic, and t-shirt seeing real? Yeah, they have and they can't get it to do it. I mean that people say, "Oh, they got it. They recreated it." No, they didn't. They Nobody recreated the lash whiplash around. Nobody recreated the thing flying up into the neck. Nobody recreated the microphone coming all the way across the shirt. Nobody recreated any of it. Stop it. You're lying if you say they did. Uh, after Charlie was shot, did you notice one security guard run and before he did anything, he touched the metal tent post, turned and reached for his gun? No, I didn't. I'll have to go back I wonder which one. I mean, it might have just been like turning the corner. Like my kids grabbed the banister when they turned the corner and then every few months you got to tighten it up. Uh Hibs was right next to the SUV when the trunk popped. Yeah, he was. He was also right in the line of sight between Harpole and and Hunter Kak. And he was also right next to a mysterious man who did not flinch when the shot or the bang went off. And he just went like this. He just looked up. Yeah, I I've watched these videos a few times, sir. Uh 2025 Israel lion's last stop. Israel hammer line. What is all this? If if if you're given codes, I don't know. I don't know what all that means. Best of luck to you. I see my birthday in there, though. 122 a Merry Christmas beautiful monologue about Jesus. Well, thank you roses. Thank you roses. With a name like roses, you probably like St. TZ of Lassou. St. TZ of Lassou likes roses. Uh, Israel search road microphone on July 28th after see searching Lee Troder in the Losi Center. Let me say this about like I've searched road microphones before I ever knew who Charlie Kirk was. like that that that the problem with the searching is you you got to like there's a common sense element to it. There can't be such a common search that you know I'm not making fun of you today. I'm just saying like lots of people search road microphones probably the top three microphone bands brands in America or in the world. Uh let's not forget Candace introduced these types to the conservative via Kanye Kardashian Cardi etc. Wake up people. You're being played by her. What are you talking about? What is she? Who's introducing what? Introduce these types. Who are these types? I don't know what she's talking about. Thanks for your donation. Very generous. Isn't Hibs brother? Pastor Jack Hibs. Yes. The one who was first to declare Charlie dead. Yes. From BB Netanyahu. Well, from Israeli wire service. But yes, if that's the case, you have to wonder if that's why he was there. Oo, well done. Chill. Chill. I didn't put all that together. Thank you. That was a That was a That's a good point. I have not put that together. I don't know what a sebuck is. I think I've looked this up. This is the Swedish Crona or whatever. Andrew Labbrun. Frank Turk in his phone. What if his purpose was to be antenna for a mesh network close to Charlie Kirk and Brian Harpole? Minivan trunk open to amplify source signal. So, a mesh network. Uh, I can dig it. Um, yeah. I mean, I know I know what you're talking about.Use your uh you use a phone to amplify a signal instead of being just receiving the signal. You're actually receiving and bouncing it back out. Yeah, I can see that. I don't uh You mean so that Brian Harpole would be I haven't thought about I mean I haven't run that down but I'm at least on its face I know what you're talking about. Uh Charlie looked like he was set up to fake an attack or fake his death and got scoped. They were hurting him under the table. It's heartbreaking. This feels biblical. I see the spirit of God in you. Thank you for your kind words about me. I don't again it's just something that I've crossed my mind and I've played with the idea that maybe it was like hey Charlie let's set this up to look a certain way and then when he goes along with it okay now take him out like it would be a lot easier to take him out at that point but I I don't know I don't know the answer to that [snorts] I don't know the answer to that because if he's playing along with it you know he's going to be in the right spot he's going to you know but again this is just intellectual exercise realm I'm not I'm not out Baron said Charlie's faking it. No. No. Baron didn't say that. Baron didn't say that. In any of the pictures you have, as they carry him away, can you see his necklace? Uh, yes. Frank Turk said it was on top of the bag in a vehicle, which means it was on Charlie as they cart him away. Yeah. Uh, there's one image where they're carrying him away where you can see it off of his right shoulder hanging down. So yeah, I I'm very curious by the guy who said he could see plastic uh within a second or so. I'm going to look at it. Could the burn at his side possibly be from an AED paddle burn given the shape you described? If not applied carefully, uh the paddles can cause burns restarting the heart only if he got hit before the event. Like if he got hit yesterday, like the day before or two days before, I mean, is Charlie Kirk known to have heart trouble? He was 31. He was an athlete. I doubt it. I doubt it. Uh it certainly wasn't under the table. In the picture I'm talking about, it was like 26 seconds after the bang, so he wouldn't have had time to get an AED anything. Uh Valhalla covered in this in his last podcast. Charlie's real hands, as shown in photographs, were much larger than Erica's. The hands in the video with Erica are way too small to be his. Those are not his hands in the casket. I saw Valhalla cover that. Um, I myself am 50/50 on whether those are real hands or heavily made up burned up hands of Charlie's. Here's the problem. Which of my hands looks bigger? See that? Which hand looks bigger? This is how a 2D world works. See how one hand just seems to just consume the other. Now look, now they switched. This is the problem. very you know 2D world is very difficult to judge size. Uh many men have figured this out by the Uh many men have figured out how to play the 2D camera angle. Don't do that. Ladies and gentlemen, [laughter] uh Butch Hibbs is a known drone expert and a professional drone pilot. He played a drone surveillance role during the op. I don't know if he's a known drone expert. I know he has a YouTube channel that only has drone footage. I don't know if he's a professional drone pilot either. Uh I'm curious if you think that you have evidence of that. I'd like to see it. Um I did not see him flying drones, but he could have been there to oversee people flying drones. >> I'm late.I'm early watching the DoD contract part now. Waiting on response for some previous foyer requests, but we'll also try to pull more information about the details on the contracts you're showing. Thanks for giving us your time tonight. Well, as a I'm the reason I didn't even bother putting in a foyer request is I figured they would claim national security being that it's an explosive. Um, but I would be very curious about the procurement documents because they would be they would be more specific about like the place of delivery. I don't want to say any more about the place of delivery but I am pretty confident on that part. Um I've not shared everything I believe I know but I would love a foyer about how the delivery will be conducted. I would love to see that. Uh Baron you are big in the Balkans. Euro Asia Russia next. Preach on brother. Balkans need to reform. Um, I don't know anything about the Balkans. [laughter] They're probably They need to reform. They I mean, it's ludicrous what's going on over there. Y'all shape up, please. We're not going to put up with this much longer. Y'all going to need a little freedom if you keep it up. [laughter] Do you have oil? Uh, Shapiro ruined the TPUSA event. It wasn't anything. Representative Charlie, I stand with Baron. I've had enough, too. I'm not moving from this position with Baron. Lock arms with me, my new my new FY sisters. Lock arms. I'm not going anywhere. Like, you're not going to put up a Fed slop candidate and expect me to vote. I'm not doing it. I will sit home. But bear, what about the midterms? You keep your midterms. This is This is what a Republican majority House, Senate, and President, and Supreme Court has gotten us. I'll repeat it for those that don't like that I repeat everything, but here's why I do. The current situation we're in right now, like Charlie Kirk may have been off in an op that involved at least some government actors, maybe uh we're in this situation. We don't have We don't have JFK files we were promised. We don't have MLK files. We were promised. Nobody's in jail from the Russia gate thing. They put they they they found some poor disabled kid and and charged him with a pipe bombing that pretty clearly wasn't him. Unless he's waving This is what a Republican majority house Senate President and Supreme Court get us. And I'm supposed to be like all ecstatic to run out and do it again. No. No. You give me a fed slop candidate, I'm staying home. You give me someone who will admit Christ is king and tell me they're America first, I go vote. I really don't care what else they're talking about. I'm to the point now where like there's not a social issue I care about anymore. There's not. I'm pro-life, but the reality is we overturn Row versus Wade and and abortions are at an all-time high. Like, what do you do with that? If we go, we're going to go to war with Iran. We had to get Charlie out of the way first so we could go to war with Iran. Is that what happened? We're going to war with Venezuela? Like, this is not what I voted for. This isn't it. This is not what I voted for. Oni Baron, you broke my brain. Fantastic monologue. Love the energy. How did they coordinate the sound of the gun and the injury to Charlie Kirk? Thank you for your voice. Thank you very much for your work. I thought you said for my voicemails. Like, when did I call you? I don't leave voicemails. If someone leaves you a voicemail, it wasn't me. They lied.Uh, merry Christmas to you and your family. Uh, how did they coordinate the sound of the gun and the injury? Did you not see Dan Flood step forward and do that? What do you think he was doing? like he l he literally stepped forward and did that bang. And the and the coordination wasn't that great because there was a 43 second difference between the bang and the wound. And keep in mind a a supersonic round would arrive before the bang. That gets lost on some people. The fact that you heard anything before you saw movement means it wasn't a rifle. From 142 yards, that's far enough that in slow motion, the bang will arrive before the sound. I mean, the uh excuse me, the the the strike will arrive before the sound. That's enough distance to be able to tell a difference on on on a 60 frame per second. And what do we have instead? We have the shirt moving after the bang bang. And then the shirt goes up. Well, the shirt wouldn't go up first. The the I the lie that we're being fed, the fed slop narrative we're being fed is that that the cavitation caused the necklace to go back, which caused the charm to come up, which caused the shirt to go, "Okay, great. Where's the hole? >> [snorts] >> And do you understand what kind of cavitation you'd get if something blew up at 24,000 ft per second or even 10,000 ft per second right next to you? Or even 5,000 ft per second, right next to your chest, you would get a little Ah, $10. It feels a little wrong getting paid to read scripture, guys, if I'm being honest. >> [laughter] >> I I I feel a little bit like Ben Shapiro here. All right, let me look. Uh, Proverbs 18:17. Those who plead the case first seem to be in the right, then the opponent comes and cross-examines them. Oo, am I the cross-examiner? Hey, one of the greatest books I've ever read, if you if you have anyone going to law school, buy them the book. or even if you just like to think the art of cross-examination. It's got all kinds of examples going back to like the late 1800s, early 1900s. It's a really cool book. It's an older book. A lot of the actual practical application wouldn't work in courtrooms today, but it's really a cool way to learn how to think. It was excellent read. I I mean, I just devoured the book when I got it. The art of cross-examination. Uh I might be able to find a uh let's see here. Art of crossexamination book by Francis Wellman. Yeah, that's it right there. Francis L. Wellman. W L L M Francis like of a CCI. The art of cross-examination. Great book. Great book. Uh let's see here. Uh 306 ammo with Antifa messages were not frangible rounds. Wouldn't the entire clip be frangible or fragmentation rounds? Uh, I don't know that we've determined what kind of rounds they were. Has anybody seen them? I mean, if I if you let me look at them, I mean, most people will be able to tell. If not, I'll defer to an expert who definitely would be able to tell, but I don't know anyone that's seen any of them. Uh, do I have thoughts regarding the girl that's behind a large stationary camera in front of Charlie? By the way, love your show. Keep up the great work. Bless. Thank you, Kingwood. I do. Uh, her name is Should I say her name? I don't know. I know her name. I'm not going to say it because I don't know if it's been public yet and I don't want to dox the poor girl. Um, I don't think she had anything to do with it.I think she twitched when she heard the bang and that's what made the twisty and then she looked back in the camera to make sure she was still centered, not knowing what was going on. I don't think she had anything to do with it. She seemed pretty close to the to the couple, Charlie and Erica. Uh, the vehicle's photos with black shards is the third row of the SUV. The second row would be bucket or 60/40 bench. Why put 66 Charlie Kirk in third row? Wow. Now we're Now we're cooking with grease. Maybe they took his shirt off and that's what happened when the shirt came over. I don't know. I don't know the answer. That that adds intrigue. That adds a lot of intrigue, actually. Uh when that plant blew up, I said, "Wonder what they're covering up with that one." Yeah, I mean plants typically don't blow up off the face of the earth. I mean, they typically don't. It really bothers me how they continue to post from Charlie's accounts. Thank you. I thought I was the ONLY ONE WHO FOUND THAT TOTALLY creepy and morbid. Like when I get a notification on my really [laughter] it's creepy. Feels like they're burying his tweets, videos, etc. When anyone researches Charlie Kirk years from now, all they find is BB approved videos and [laughter] Can you imagine? I'm looking for Charlie [laughter] yeah, I noticed about the electrical bolt. I saw that. Uh, am I missing you tomorrow? Why would you miss me tomorrow? I I should be on tomorrow night. We'll see. It'll either be tomorrow or Tuesday, but I think it'll be tomorrow. Uh, I wonder if anyone on the construction crew suffered any seizures after paving over the scene at UVU. I thought about reaching out to him, but I'm assuming so many people have reached out to him that they uh they're probably tired of hearing from people. Was Butch on Google Trends? Thank you for all your hard work. Very much appreciated. He was he was in multiple locations and under his original name, Bruce. I think it's Bruce Hibbs and Butch Hibs. Uh Libby, thank you. Gwen Gwen, please read this. I'm reading Gwen. The road to wireless microphone was searched from is I know that. I know that. Um, I think Ian was using my data on that podcast, believe it or not. Um, it's a common term. Uh, which so I don't like sentences that start with so. You don't know me very well. You wouldn't do that. Uh, so you would vote for a This is why you would vote for a Christian Zionist over an American versus atheist. I'm a patriot. Has nothing to do with religion? Uh, no. I wouldn't vote for either one of them. You miss, you misunders You don't understand legal thought. Elements, sir. Elements, not factors. Elements. Elements are required to be present in order for me to vote. Christian and America first. You can't be a Christian Zionist and be America first. You're out. You can't be American first and be atheist. You're out. So, I'm sitting home. If you give me those options, I'll watch and see how the election goes. I'll watch from my couch. I'm telling you, I'm done with their bull butter. Done with it. You give me a Christian who's America first or I'm not voting. And if they want to say, "Well, you give me a Zionist or I'm not voting." Good. Stay home. stay home. We'll get our brains beat in. Whatever. Obviously, this isn't working. I'll be honest. The current Republican majority, Senate, House, President, super Supreme Court, it's not working. It's not working. We have very few deporting uh deport deportations going on.We have no foreign policy that's changed from Obama. Basically, it's, you know, whatever uh Israel tells us to do, we're doing it. We're looking to go to war again. I mean, if this is it, this is what we're getting. Okay, I'll stay home. I'm I'm telling you guys, I'm tired of it. I'm just sick of it. Those are plastic mannequin hands in the casket, not Charlie's hands. I've considered that possibility. Uh, what if the current cause what if the current caused the mic to pop? Well, if the current caused the mic to pop, that means there was an explosion in there. There was explosive in there, which means there's been an explosive in there. [laughter] Uh the small red label on his pocket is gone after. I'm going to have to check that out. You guys, this is a second person that's raised this issue about uh Bruce Hibbs. I'm going to pull up the life is driving video and watch it after we're done. But if I don't pull it up, I'll forget. Oh, there it is. He's right there. I can look at it right now. Yeah, sure looks like it. Actually, now I got to go back and find the original and see if it was there before. Uh how about that? You're right. It's just black. Uh, I'm done with it. Christianity first. I stand with you on that. Thank you, JJ JJ Jones, 1970. Uh, I'm going to give you one J for every dollar or every Elbuck you donated. I don't know how many dollars that is. Uh, but thank you. Thank you. Uh, there is a problem with only voting for someone that professes to be a Christian. Most of the Republicans in office that are now putting America last are professioning Christians. They're using it to get votes. At least they're again, at least they're admitting that it Like Josh Hammer gets on Twitter and says, "White Europeans hate Jewish people and it's in our DNA." Like that's that's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. If I said that about any other race, I'd be on some hate watch list. Like that that's his position on me as a human being. He doesn't know me. That's his position on me. And I'm supposed to be like, "Yeah, whoever he tells me to vote for, bro, I'll be there." No, that's not it. And I'll figure it out in the primary. How did Mitch compare? How does Mitch compare Harpole's gate? I didn't ask him. Compare energy transfer of pager bombs issued to Hezbollah officials by Israel to mic transfer. Uh yeah, I mean, but those were designed to kill or like severely maim. So they would have a different explosive charge. That's the thing. It's not one to one. If I'm sending a piece of shrapnel into someone's chest to to simulate a a gunshot, that's different from I want to tear this person's head off. Those are different levels of charge. There might even be different explosives altogether. Uh, Coastline, thank you. Very generous conduct bucks there. Uh, very interesting what Nikki said was wild. All considered, I believe he was shot. I've seen a lot of wound channels from 22 LR to 338 and a and from a tactic standpoint, the transport of the firearm doesn't add up. God bless you, sir. Let's see here. All considered, I believe he was shot. Well, I disagree, but that's fine. Um, the transport of the firearm, it doesn't add up. I don't know what you're trying to say with that. I mean, you're free to believe he was shot. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't. I'm just suggesting I don't I'm completely off the gunshot wagon. I believe he was hit with a necklace or shrapnel from a microphone.If you don't like the microphone angle, then you don't understand that the microphone actually moved all the way over past his sternum. But say you don't like that. Fine. I've got a necklace that goes into his neck and I have a giant piece of plastic or something with two right angles that falls out of the wound. That ain't a bullet. Blood doesn't flow that way. Uh, I've been wondering about this with all the footage out there. Wouldn't someone have a frame that caught the bullet on camera somewhere? There were bullets flying in pics from Trump's rally. Jesus says, "You would have to get so lucky to find a bullet. I thought I saw bullets before. Now I think I pretty much saw just bugs. The the percent likelihood with an iPhone you're going to catch a bullet is just not that high. I mean, someone might have caught one somewhere, but I think a lot of the things we think are bullets are just bugs. Like the bug just hit just hits it just right and it lights up and it's just that one frame and so you think you've caught a bullet. But I I don't know. I'm I'm not I'm not falling. falling hard one way or the other there. Uh May 1, 2025 was the same EO was the same day I'm guessing EO4291 was signed creating a youth focused movement, but the admin did not tap Charlie Kirk or TPUSA members. Well, do you just happen to know that or did you look that up because that is oddly specific. Are you Donald Trump? Don't forget I signed an order that day. Uh establishing religious liberty commission, huh? Yeah. How about that? I news to me. Yeah. Good good good uh good use of donation there. I did not know that. Uh Candace's images of the van's third row. There's no door on the opposite side, and you can see the seat belt for the second row. Uh, Frank Turk's bag could be thrown between the second and third row chairs. So grateful to found your show. Thanks, Ian. Best coverage out there. Thank you, whatever your name is. Liinal. Um, yeah, I'm learning. I'm learning about the inside of [clears throat] of uh SUVs. [laughter] I'm learning about the inside of SUVs. Uh, grateful for the time you spend on everything, including airtime. Lord knows it takes you from your family. It does. Uh, God bless all of you. Keep standing for the truth. P.S. Get a producer. I'm trying. I'm trying. I have to be able to afford one. Uh Nicki Minaj has used assassin before on X to describe JD Vance positively, meaning he's sharp, deadly effect, deadly effective in debates. Vance is an assassin. Don't debate him. I did not know that. I've never heard anyone referred to as an assassin. But well, that's not true. Chuck Pson, uh he was a former uh three-point not three-point specialist, but he was a shooter. He was a Pacers player and they referred to him I think as the assassin if I'm not mistaken. Uh Ian Carol. Wow. Ian, thank you. Hundreds. Uh Baron, you've got almost 25,000 people watching live, man. You're amazing. I'll have to rewind and re-watch the stream from the beginning, but nice work, man. You're a legend. Every view welld deserved. Everyone hit that like button and support. Yeah, hit the like button, subscribe. Uh Ian, you're great. You're a legend. Uh absolutely wonderful. Like I said, that's why I didn't go Friday night because I knew Ian was going to go and I wanted to watch him. I wanted to watch Nate. Uh, and so I thought, you know what, I'll take the night off and I want to watch some uh I want to watch some lives.I could always watch it the next day and that's typically what I do, but I'd like to watch live sometimes with all of you. Uh, the chats are way more fun live. Thank you, Ian. Uh, thank you very much, Baron. As a left Christian, like your other guest, I just want to say thank you Ian, Candace, etc. for not going with a fed slop that was 100% supposed to divide us as we were coming together on topics like Epste and Iran. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it was. Let's put up a a um let's put up uh this. Oh, leftist shot Charlie. Oh, a leftist shot Charlie. How many times did Jack Wasobic say that? 100. We didn't buy it, Jack. We didn't buy it. You know why we didn't buy it? Because we're not as stupid as you are. >> [laughter] >> Uh, flight departed TU99 9458. Oh, it's a lot of numbers there. Landed in Dallas Fort Worth 1257, allowing approximately a 45minute connect before the Oh, interesting. So, even if he had a boarding pass, that still might not prove he wasn't there. You're talking about uh Brian Harpole. Good call. Good call. Good message. Good message. Uh, I believe Christ was a very holy man. He is an ascended master just not ready to claim an organ organized religion. Hope that's good enough to be accepted in the club. Much love from Memphis. Yeah, I I I invite you on our team. I'm not going to vote for you. [laughter] I'm not voting for ascended master. I If you come to me and say, "I'm running for Congress. My name is Misbehavin 007." I'm probably not voting for you based on that alone. But if you then tell me, I believe Christ was an ascended master. I'm going say, cool story, bro. Who else was running? Can I vote for the other guy? Uh, but you're on the team. Yes, you can come on the team. I'm not saying you have to be an American first Christian to vote with us or to watch the show or to participate or to be my friend. I'm not saying any of that. I'm just not voting for you. I standing here and I'm not going anywhere else. Uh Baron as a lawyer, can you tell us where we can go from here? How can we get these leads investigated? They all keep saying we should just wait until the trial to see the evidence, but what if this never goes to trial? Yeah, we should not wait until this goes to trial. That is not going to cut it. That's not That's not going to cut it. We're not waiting for this to go to trial. We have to keep investigating leads. We have to keep looking at all of the um things that are possibilities and running them down. Was he electrocuted? Let's check let's find out. Let's talk to some electricians. Let's talk to some electrical engineers. Let's find out how it flows. Let's look at some better pictures of the area. Let's ask why the the tent is up. Let's ask if the if this place is grounded. Was the mic grounded? Could the grounded lifted? If so, I mean, we need to ask all these questions. Did his m did his thing explode? Well, let's find out what were those black things in the thing. Are there better images? Let's now start investigating uh all the videos to see if we see black flexcks coming off of them. See, this is how this works. It's crowdsourced investigation. This isn't me sitting back telling you what you're supposed to believe. If you come out of this and you say, "Yeah, I still believe in the trampoline neck theory like Nick Fentes does." Okay, fine. I don't believe you. I mean, we fundamentally disagree on that, but whatever. like I'm not losing sleep over it.Uh I'd like to know more about the video showing the energy burst from CK CK shirt. Was this burst directed detected in the infrared or ultraviolet non-visible spectrum? I don't know that any of those types of cameras were running at the time. That's the problem. What we have is movement. That's what we have. We have movement and movement and and and movement at the speed we have it is almost unachievable by anything other than propulsion from under the shirt. That's what we have. Uh sniper, do you know JD V? No, I'm just kidding. Uh he could have known he was surrounded, known it was going to happen, chose to go through with it knowing the world would see it. He saw his end. Maybe he really did and chose not to fight. Now I don't believe it. I don't believe it. That would be I mean that's basically suicide. If you know you're going to be killed and you just stand there and take it. This is you know I'm not I'm not talking about like a martyrdom. I'm talking about just you get murdered. That's suicide. You got to fight it. You got to fight. I mean go back and read GK Chesterton's Orthodoxy. What what is the ultimate sin of suicide? Why? Because you've given up hope. You've given up hope. Don't give up hope. Can you look at the ground where they carried Charlie Kirk to see if pieces a microphone out of a shirt? Yeah, we just don't have a lot of good video from that vantage point. That's the problem. I mean, we can look. We can go back. That's what I'm saying. We need to go back and examine all this video. I need your help. I can't do it all. You guys are uh I'm kning you. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Go forth and investigate. >> [laughter] >> If you got one of these, you're an investigator. Start reading. Start looking. Start looking. I think they took the SIM card because the footage shows what the security was doing to CK's body, among other things. Candace saw parts of the video, not the entire thing, if I'm not mistaken. I think you're right. I think you're right. He was cremated. I don't believe that's accurate. He might be now, but I don't believe that's accurate. Uh Candace said the other day she verified that Vance wasn't on that plane. She said he was in DC. Go Max. Love your show. I don't miss it. thanks for all your hard work. Uh I don't agree with I think the way I understood what she said is she was saying he wasn't in that meeting and I think that was the September 9th meeting. I never said or suggested he was. There was no SAM triple0ero at that meeting. There was a SAM 702 at that meeting. The SAM se the SAM triple0ero was August 25 and August 26. And I have yet to see any image of JD Vance anywhere else while that plane was in the air on the ground in Colorado Springs or in the air back to camp um Camp Springs Joint Base Andrews. I've not seen any image of JD Vance anywhere else. If I'm all ears like I would love nothing more than to think the sitting vice president of the United States has clean hands. That that would make me giddy. This is not me hoping I'm right. If anything, it's me hoping I'm wrong. I would love to see evidence that he wasn't there. Love to see evidence he wasn't there, but I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. So, I disagree with her conclusion until I see the actual evidence. Someone telling me that there's some video exists is not me looking at the video. I want to see the video. If the video of show, show it to me. Play it on your You got a podcast. Play it.Uh Trump's secret succession plan to put Charlie Kirk in the Oval Office and groom a shock new VP. What's the succession plan? Charlie was only 31. He couldn't be president for at least four years. I mean, two two election cycles away. He's not old enough. Uh bottom line is you must believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Um talking about Christianity. Like that's the definition of Christianity. [laughter] Uh, yeah, that's it. Uh, the week you start questioning if JD was on the SAM flight, it starts circulating that CK was JD's guy for 2028. I'd like to believe it. Just can't help but wonder if it's to direct attention away. Hey, let me just tell you this. Anything that comes out of TPUSA's mouth is bull doodoo. I don't believe it. I don't want to hear what Charlie would have done. I don't want to hear how much Charlie loves someone. I want to see evidence. I want to hear videos of Charlie speaking or I don't want to hear anything about it. Period. Like that's it. And and let me tell you, you you've hit on something here that I' I've kind of stayed away from. You notice maybe I've said this, I don't know if I've said it to you. I've said it to other people. I don't know if I've They were fine sitting back and letting Candace and everyone else, Ian, me, Valhalla, I mean, initially Steven Gardner and others, they they allowed everybody to sit back and investigate. Trigger, John, Aaron Bray, every Ryan Mata, Blake Bedars, everyone was fine to sit back and let us just investigate our little hearts out of until until Candace said something about that September 9th meeting. And then everybody threw a hissy fit and now all of a sudden she And when we mention electrocution and we mentioned that he might not have been shot at all, like the world ended. It's it's it I don't I don't think it's I don't think you're wrong here to see the timing and think this doesn't add up. Why? When we were talking, you know, when we were asking the question, not not this channel, every channel when everyone was asking the question, could he have been shot from the Sorenson Center instead of Los Center? Nobody was asking anybody to stop. No one was being called evil. No one was being told we were jeopardizing the 2026 midterms. Nobody was saying any of that. It was like, "Go for it. Let's just look at the angles." I mean, did it come from behind? They let us sit there for weeks and examine all these different angles and everything else. And all of a sudden, it was like, "Hey, there was a meeting at FORT WUKA. YOU GUYS ARE EVIL. HEY, could he have been electrocuted? YOU HAVE TO STOP. STOP NOW. I'M FLYING Fort Wuka was, "You guys have to stop." electrocution was I'm flying to Nashville. I don't think it's a coincidence on the timing. I don't think that's a coincidence at all. Uh Charles Guy who posted those CKH and Hibs pics on Facebook back in July. He was posting a lot about the Sabbath, clearly in disagreement with Charlie Kirk and sharing videos of Charlie Kirk speaking about Sabbath. Grace Chapel, Hebrew City. Let me tell you, I don't I think there was I think Hebrew City was I think a lot happened in Hebrew City. Uh, I just sent you an IM through Facebook. Important info. Please send important info to [email protected]. Do not email my personal email. I know I gave it out one time so that Adam from Life is Driving could could uh could email me and get on the show before I had the other email address set up.Maybe one day I'll get other email address set up that's better and more private or whatever. Right now I'm using Gmail, Real Baron Podcast and Gmail. Please direct all messages through there. I don't check the Facebook. I don't check the other emails. Um I just got to have one central location otherwise I could go crazy when there's email. There's stuff everywhere. Uh, so there might have been a third object under his shirt separate from the mic pack and cross that he was aware of. Do you think Charlie would have allowed a pacy to be set up? If he thought Apati was going to that Apaty truly believed he was involved in a conspiracy to kill him, yes, I think he would have allowed him to be set up. I don't think he would have let him be set up for the murder, but I think he would allowed him to be set up for the conspiracy to commit murder because he would have been guilty of that. Yeah, I do. I don't think he would have faked his But I Yeah, I do 100%. Uh, story fed to social media was that a curse was put on Charlie Kirkland by an influencer online. I heard that they had a priest visit do a prayer. I heard that as well. Was it so EK could get CK to wear a piece of jewelry mutoante? H I don't know. That's interesting. Is that what got him to start wearing the St. Michael medal? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Uh if your theory is correct that CK was in on that is not my theory. It's something I've thought about this. Let's be clear. Words have meaning. Would that explain why Michael McCoy walked away? Could it Oh, well, this is a new development. It could I mean, I this is not my theory, but let's just take this intellectual exercise a few a few minutes down a few steps down the road. Um, if Charlie Kirk was in on potentially staging a gunshot wound to the chest, again, not my theory, just something I've bandied about, talked about, thought about. Um, and Mikey McCoy was aware of that part of it, but would not have been aware about the conspiracy to commit murder. Uh, yeah, in that situation he would be. I don't know that I buy that, but it's an interesting thought. A cabb is a weird name, but the pizza tattoo is in pizza gate. What kind of people are running? um demons, liars, um fornicators. Uh do you need me to keep going? [laughter] Allegedly, just my opinion. Just my opinion. Uh comedians tend to call their peers they respect assassins because they can be relied on to go and kill. Have a really good set. I think Nikki Menon has a compliment and it didn't go well. I very well could have, but you know, the woman's husband had just been assassinated. Let's use a little discretion. Uh, the neck squibbed and faked offing cannot be ruled out. A lead projectile definitely did not penetrate Charlie Kirk's neck. The more you reveal, the more you reveal Charlie Kirk faked his offing. I don't think he faked his offing. I think he's dead. Um, I don't think he intended to fake his offing. I think he in I I think that's as much as I can say. I I think that's all I can say. I don't think he intended to fake his offing and I don't think he faked his offing. Uh was anyone able to prove Blake Nef is related to Sergeant Nef? Not that I've heard. Uh 440,000 for an extra small personal explosive device ordered from the DoD arriving just in time. Thank you, Baron. Yeah, that's there. that that contract is real and it was delivered on August 25th allegedly. I mean, the contract ended on August 25th. Um, yeah, those dates are real.What they did with it or what, you know, what it went for, I don't know. But yeah, extra small anti-personnel device certainly existed. Uh, you're the only one who gets it. Ah, salt and pepper's hair. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, did I see Valhalla's crash out at the end of his throw show threatening to disavow Candace because of her GoFundMe page for Mitch? No, I didn't see that. I was asleep long before the end of his show. I had Listen, I woke up and it was still the middle of his show. I went right back to sleep. I, you know, stuff to do the next day. He's on late, man. I can watch some of it. I didn't watch the end. Uh, are you aware of George Webb talking about a RICO lawsuit on Charlie's behalf? I've heard it. Thank you. Merry Christmas. 2026 bring peace. I've heard it. I just don't think he has standing. I don't think he has standing. And I don't think he has a I don't think it's a real cause of action anyway. But I mean, Rico is a real cause of action. I don't know that it applies to Charlie Kirk's situation or uh or to TPUSA, but I I don't think Web himself has standing. Whether others would, I don't know. Uh the clown feed image is AI generated designed to make them look like they would never take part in the Maybe. I don't I don't know that that's true. It looked like a picture to me, but I'm telling you, he's got some big old feet. Uh, this is their most This is the most compelling episode I've yet seen. Well, thank you, Freddy J. Stay tuned. It gets more compelling from here. [laughter] Uh, Squib, a charge strong enough to off CK under his shirt would have blown a hole in the front of CK's shirt. The charge was only created intended to create a show. So, now let's investigate Um, so I'll take it in order. A squib would have, if detonated properly, a squib would have penetrated a shirt. In all likelihood, um, the charge from the microphone or the necklace, if those generated their own propulsion, might not have blown out the shirt because of they would have had a a different purpose. They wouldn't have just been a, you know, all everywhere. It would have been directed charge going a particular place. Um, the last question, why Charlie Kirk wanted out? I don't know that that's my conclusion. Um, if you feel he tensed before the shot, maybe they pulled a ground pulled the ground a fraction too soon and that's him being shocked. Could be. Could be. Yeah, the timing would really have to be um really have to be close. Uh, James Lee seems to be doing good work. Did you see his recent video about Eric Kirk's blood connections with Rosings My Linsky, etc.? I did. I watched that video. I like James Lee quite a bit. Uh, his 51 is it 5149? Is that the name of his channel? It's a good channel. Uh, I like James Lee and um I don't know what I make about it. I don't know what I don't know if I draw the same conclusion, but he it's good investigative work and everything needs to be talked about. EK roasted you and your guest on chest explosion and security turning knobs within her first few minutes of Afest opening speech. Well, what is she going to do? Say guilty is charged. Are you Are you kidding me? Like they caught us? Well, we were going to have a nice event here at TPUSA ZamFest, but those pesky rascally Scooby-Doo crew over on YouTube, they ripped off our mask and lo and behold, it's Erica crazy mascara. I mean, come on. What's she going to do? Uh, thank you for all you do.Baron Candace, Ian, Jimmy Door, Coach Colin are 21st century Patriots. You are spot on. God bless America. Thank you to be put in a lineup of legends like that. Are you kidding me? Uh that's incredible. That is incredible. Uh thank you. I think you bring a really complimentary background and attitude to do this part of to this part of the internet. Really appreciate all you do. Well, thank you. Uh let them eat baconators. Yes. Oh my gosh, a baconater right now. Are you kidding me? Love a baconater. I am starving to death. I don't like to eat before I go on air. starving. John, you didn't even say anything. $100. I'd let you say anything you want. I would have put anything you wanted to put up there for 100. I mean, within reason. Was not like pornographic or something. Uh, longest day of the year here in Argentina. Merry Christmas. I just realized how um uh geocentric my opening was. I I do apologize you southern hemispherans but isn't like 90% of the population in the northern hemisphere like do I guess probably not probably like 80 but it is weird that we only attach Christmas to snow and down there it's like middle of the summer that's weird that's weird I guess if you grow up that way well thank you merry Christmas to you sir uh and boss 1999 I was raised Catholic but now non-denominational. I was laughing so hard in parts of this tonight. I'm glad I could bride your sense of humor. You're only one confession away from coming home. [laughter] Uh and oh, and boss. Oh, you're back for more. I don't think you meant to hit it twice. Hey, your next comments on the house or else there's a glitch. Uh thoughts on CK wasn't supposed to wear the necklace. Did he have to go and grab it? Was it the necklace that foiled the plan? Did he always wear the necklace? Um, I think he pretty much always wore the necklace, but that's an interesting thought. Did the necklace foil the plan? I hadn't considered that. Uh, is it hard to keep It's hard to keep hope and faith in what's happening here in Australia. I bet, man. Australia's hooked. [laughter] I feel bad for you people down there. Your government is loony. I mean, you guys are lunatics down there. Australia used to be pretty based. like used to be a legitimate backup option for us Americans. Like if things didn't work out here, we just moved to Australia. You guys are cooked. And your police have ridiculous uniforms. They look so stupid. Uh why all the unopened candy on the SUV floor? Remember the candy brought to Brian as a possible decoy for him to go in his pocket? It's all over the SUV floor. No, but there's poetry and throat coat all over a TPU. Um, I don't know, man. Uh, that's a good point. I'm I'm sure it just spilled out of somebody's pockets or they there was some bag or something that opened up. Be my guess. It's chaos. Is guy dying in front of you. Candy is probably not the last thing you're worried about. I've never had that though. Is it like something I can buy on Amazon? I I'm going to order some right now. Can you get throat coat on Amazon? If I If I put this in, the Fed's going to like report me for saying ugly stuff. Uh, throat coat lozenge. Like, am I gonna get a a trigger? Uh, no. You can't buy Can you not buy them on Amazon? If you can't buy it on Amazon, I don't want it. Huh? How about that? Well, sorry, guys. I was going to buy one and try them. I'll look I'll look somewhere else. Uh, Charlie Kirk turned 25, 32 in October 25.So in 3 years he would have been 35 by November 28 eligible for to be You guys are so smart. You guys make me feel like an idiot sometimes. So thank you for correcting that. There's some throat coat. Oh, you can get it at Walmart, Target. Um I want the same brand. I want the yellow kind. I don't want any of these other Uh I'm going to order that one right there. That's ginger ech. I don't like echynasia. Tastes weird to me. Eucalyptus mint. Now that sounds delicious. I'm ordering it. When I come on the air next time, I don't know if it'll be here by then, but before long, I'm going to give you a My YouTube video is going to get flagged for saying that so many times. Uh, let's see here. One, butler sealed. Trump wins. False flag. Uh Butler sealed Trump win. False flag. Okay. One. Two. Midterm need crisis to win. Three. Charlie Kirk uh 100% for Trump. Four. Uh Gov and TP USA plot to rally momentum. What? Chuka. You skipped five. You went from four to six. Five. Real Baron podcast is amazing. Agreed. Uh six. EK against idea. Sleep separate. I understand. E seven. What do you know? I know everything. Oh. Oh. O. Okay. I see. Um, so did Butler Trump Butler helped seal Trump's victory. There's no doubt about it. I mean, got Elon on board. It It really turned the tide in favor of him. No doubt about it. Do I think it was a false flag? Probably not. Uh, do I think it was Thomas Matthew Crooks alone climbing up on the roof? No. Um, do I think Erica was in on it and against it? No. Uh, I I certainly don't think that's why they were sleeping separate. Uh, think they will try to do a JD Vance, Erica, Kirk, Pres, and VP ticket next. I hope not. That would be weird. I'll be honest, guys. I don't like this this like it goes both ways too. Like if there's a woman I I don't just do it the opposite way. If there's a woman who built up this business and she was out there killing it day after day traveling two 300 times a year and she understood the politics of it, how to bring everybody in, build coalitions, she was sharp as a whip out there just answering people left and right and she dies and all of a sudden her husband takes over and they're like he should be president. What's he sending home? guys been playing video games for 12 years. What are you talking about? Like, we're not we're not playing GTA 5 here. Like, we're try we're trying to to govern a country. Same thing the other way. Like, squirting out a couple of units from of Charlie's is not a qualification. I'm sorry. Like, I'm sure they're cute kids, but that ain't qualification to be president. Uh, no, thank you. I'll pass on that one. Uh, with Mitch's previous issues, he wouldn't have gotten by the background investigation required to get on base, which takes him months. Plants are always where they're supposed to be. If he has a CAT card, he can get on anyway, doesn't he? If he's retired or has a medical retirement or as a I think I I don't I don't I don't think I don't I I don't agree with your your comment there. Uh, I think pretty sure he's an assassin is the new street lingo for said person is killing in life. Horrible chase of words. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm willing to accept that at 46 I'm not up with the Nicki Minaj lingo. I have a problem. You're being so descriptive painting such a clear picture. I'm not dreaming as as it happens. Two nights running. Great work from a very tired fan. Well, Marty, Marty, Marty, uh, I'll try not to be so vivid that you dream about me.Oh, you're dreaming about the story. Sorry, that's not as good. [laughter] Not as good. Uh, let's see here. Uh, being a Democrat has nothing to do with Jesus and more about human and civil rights. We just wear our crosses under our shirts. Peace on earth. Look, I like I said, I think you could be a single issue voter. If if civil rights is your vote and you think the Republicans do a poor job of it and that's how you vote, that's fine. Um I disagree with your conclusion obviously. Uh I think on average, most of the time a Republican and Democrat run, the Republicans probably the safer bet. Um but I I could I could understand occasionally that that that people disagree with that. I could understand that. Uh, my wife and I loved your opening statement, Crisis King. Now, take care of business like a gangster, bro. We got in late, so we're at the beginning. We got in late, so we're at the beginning. They got in so late. They said it twice. Or they saying it twice to make fun of me for because I say everything twice. [laughter] Oh, did I consider the government learned of the plot and pulled family out ahead in witness protection program? Evil still. No, I didn't because his wife and kids aren't in the program. He's just going to go off on his own. That doesn't sound very fun. Uh, a predicted Charlie Kirk as most likely president. Jake JD's I wouldn't have voted for Charlie Kirk in a primary. I'll be honest with you. uh uh 0% chance I would have voted for. I just like I said, he now maybe if he would have kept on the path he was heading, he'd have been my brand of Republican, but he was a little too concerned with Middle Eastern politics for my flavor. Just a little too concerned with Middle Eastern politics. Guys, this has been fun. This has been a fun show. Uh thank you for joining me. Uh thank you for coming in uh night after night. I'll probably be on tomorrow if I had to guess. Um maybe Tuesday, but towards the middle end of the week with Christmas and everything, it's going to be it's going to be tough for me to get on the air. Uh obviously Wednesday and Thursday are probably out Christmas Eve and Christmas. And u I'll probably come back maybe Friday after that. So maybe tomorrow and Friday or Tuesday and Friday maybe at the at the worst case scenario. Um but I I encourage you I mean like I said, look, I dubbed the investigative night. So go out and investigate. Get out there and figure this stuff out. Send me leads. Send Ian leads. Send Candace leads. Send Valhalla leads. Send Ryan Mata, Blake Bedards, Trigger Smart, John Bray. Send everybody leads. And when you tune in, I'll do my best to keep you informed and entertained. That's my promise. I will not fire up the microphone unless I got something to say. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. 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