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DISTURBING Google Searches BEFORE Charlie Kirk Shooting - #1
YouTube video by Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlSC57zqq5c). OPINION COMMENTARY by Baron Coleman (Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast)) — one commentator's contested analysis of the Charlie Kirk assassination and the State v. Tyler Robinson prosecution. These are his own assertions and theories, NOT the court record, NOT established fact, and NOT endorsed by profoundd; some make unverified allegations about named individuals. Archived here, attributed and lane-separated as commentary, so the claims can be weighed against the primary record — the tyler-robinson-trial hearings and filings in this same collection. Inclusion in this archive is not evidence of truth.
have a gosh, I was not going to come back yet. I know I've been gone for weeks, months maybe. Uh and I was not going to come back yet. I don't have any of my settings right. Anyway, um I've got something so disturbing tonight. And I've consulted with a number of people including uh Mrs. Baron Podcast. Uh and a number of other people. Some of the Some of the names you've you've almost assuredly heard of if you're listening to this. If you care enough about politics and my brand of politics, you've probably heard of some of the names of the people that I've consulted with on whether or not to discuss what [clears throat] I've found, what I've uncovered. So, I will get there. I promise you. This is not I'm not teasing you. This is not a strip tease. But I will um kind of give you some background for it because I have been gone for a while and >> [clears throat] >> as I give you the background, understand I'm not killing time. I don't want to make this any longer than it has to be. I don't want it to be painful. I want this as painless as possible, but I didn't know how else to get this information out into the public and I think it is disturbing enough that it needs to be out in the public. It is uh frankly one of the more disturbing things I've run across. But let me give you the background of how I did this. There's a There's a search function in Google I learned about years ago. And everybody knows how to use Google. You open google.com and you can you can uh you get a search window and you start typing your stuff. A lot of it's a deep A lot of you have it as the default browser. So, you just go up to your where you would normally type like uh baroncohen.com or whatever. You would uh you go up there and you just start typing something, you know, uh closest grocery store and it'll pop up a Google search cuz Google is your default search engine. Uh but if you actually go to the google.com page, it'll give you a search window, but there are a whole lot of functionality you can do in that search window that most people don't know about. And the reason I'm confident most people don't know about it is when I ran by several very sophisticated again household names in some instances. Uh names that have People that have advised presidents, uh advised uh on on mega national matters and instances. >> [clears throat] >> And I said, "Hey, have you ever heard of this search functionality in Google called Google Trends?" And several of them were like, "No, never heard of it. What is it? What does it do?" Some of them were like, "Ah, kind of heard of it, but I don't really know what it was." I first heard of it when I was advising for a grocery store chain decade and a half ago probably. A long time ago. >> [clears throat] >> And uh I was a very small member of a team, but I was part of a team and the and the team had a very sophisticated guy on it and he had discovered this functionality on Google where you could go and you could sort of view what it was people were searching and when and you could get trends related to it. And so, I'll demonstrate that for you on something random, but it'll and I I'll give you an idea of how it works and then I'll explain where I first applied this to any sort of breaking national story and then I'll explain how I applied it to Charlie Kirk one of the most disturbing disturbing things I've come across in a very very long time. A very long time and I've discovered a lot of disturbing things. Uh a quick Google search of my name will reveal some of the garbage I've been involved with over the course of my life. Um >> [clears throat] >> but this is this potentially takes the cake. This potentially is one of the more disturbing things I've ever been involved in. So, let me show you briefly and for those of you who already know, this is a little primer, but that's fine. Uh I want to show you briefly how this search functionality works so that as I'm saying things, you guys understand what I'm talking about. you'll get this search window right here and I can I can search anything. You can see I searched Broncos versus Colts. Uh Atlanta Braves, right? I can search Atlanta Braves and I can click explore. Well, that's a terrible Oh, cuz I didn't put the S. All right. Atlanta Braves and it gives me an index. And this is set for over the last 24 hours. So, I can see over the United States, that's what this is up here, over the last 24 hours in all categories of web searches, when the Braves were searched the most over the geographically limited right here, the United States. And you can make it worldwide, you can make it uh anything you want. So, let's start with the United States. Let's say the past week. Over the last week, the moment the Atlanta Braves were searched more than anything else was September 9th at 8:00 p.m. For whatever reason, September 9th at 8:00 p.m. across the United States, more people were interested in Googling the Atlanta Braves than at any other time. You'll notice the waking and sleeping and all this and you probably some games in here or whatever. Um but it is it's indexed at 100 being the most searches at any given time in the time frame you've referenced here. And again, I will explain why this is important and maybe you can already see where I'm going and you understand why this is so disturbing. It may be the most disturbing set of facts about the Charlie Kirk assassination that that I've come across. And if I broaden this out to 30 days, you'll notice that now it is August 23rd, 2025 was the was the day that the Atlanta Braves were the most searched of the last 30 days and then as they have gone on a little bit of a losing streak or a slide, you can see interest in the Atlanta Braves has waned over time and it reached a low right here of 34 on September 12th. And what that means is only 34% of the searches were run on that day relative to the August 23rd peak of 100. It's indexed to 100 if you don't know what that means. That doesn't mean there were 100 searches on this day. It means there were some number of searches, but it's the most number of searches in the last 30 days. This doesn't mean there were 34 searches or 35 searches. It means there were 34% of the number of searches that were to the index of 100. That's how it works. That's across the United States. I can limit it to the Atlanta metro market and I'll get a different set of numbers. I can limit it to the state of Georgia and I'll get a another set of numbers. They look the same because interest sort of is across the board. I could probably go to uh let's say the state of New York for example. And I could see here August 24th it was and there's a low of actually zero right here in the state of New York. They don't like the Atlanta Braves apparently That's how Google Trends works. Now, I first came across Google Trends as an item of national prominence or a national in the breaking of a nationally prominent story. Let me say it that way. Uh back in the wake of the Donald Trump assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. The guy's name that I was Google Trend searching was Thomas Matthew Crooks. He was the alleged shooter that was on the uh ARG building. And when I did a Google Trend search, I Because I started doing it in um nationally. And of course, as you would imagine, there was no interest in Thomas Matthew Crooks nationally and one day, five days, seven days, 30 days, one year, two years, five years, no interest nationally in Thomas Matthew Crooks until the day of the Butler shooting because on that day everybody learned his name and what did he do? The same thing we all do. We all run to Google and we type in Thomas Matthew Crooks. And so, on the day of the Butler And so, I thought, "Let me drill down on this though with this search functionality. I can limit it to custom date ranges. I can do 2004 to present basically all of Google's searches. I could do a custom range and I could cut it to any particular dates I want to." And so, I started doing that and I started doing custom ranges around particular geographic locations. And then news broke in the days after the Donald Trump assassination attempt in whether credible or not, I don't know, but news broke that there were some cell phones that pinged at Thomas Matthew Crooks's house. Again, I don't know if that's true, but that was what the news was saying. And those cell phone pings were linked to Washington, D.C. They also pinged in Washington, D.C. So, I thought, "Let me do something Let me do something random. Let me look and see if anyone in Washington, D.C. had been searching Thomas Matthew Crooks before the shooting." So, I pull up the And lo and behold, there were hits. And I thought, "That's weird. That's such an unusual name. There can't be a lot of Thomas Matthew Crooks." Why were they searching Thomas Matthew Crooks in the year or so, a few times, not every day, but a couple of hits in the Washington, D.C. area. So, I thought, "Well, maybe that's just just happens." So, let me try some other jurisdictions and I tried New York and I tried California and I tried Pennsylvania and I tried Texas and I tried Florida. I tried big states across the country and I got no hits. And I kept coming back to Washington, D.C. and I thought, "Why would it be hitting in Washington, D.C.? Obviously in Pennsylvania as well, but not hitting in any of these other states. Let me try Alabama. I had long contacts in Alabama. I lived there for 20 years. So, I tried Alabama and lo and behold, there were hits. And so, if you search We'll just keep using the Alabama Atlanta Braves here for a second, but if you look up Alabama, you'll notice I can take Alabama and I can break it down by metro area. Birmingham, Columbus, Georgia, Dothan, Huntsville, Meridian, Mississippi, so West Alabama, Mobile, the the Bay Area, um you know, central West Alabama, the Selma area, Montgomery. And so I started clicking, where are these searches coming from in Alabama? Who in Alabama is interested in Thomas Matthew Crooks? And what I found was the searches were limited to the Huntsville Mobile the Huntsville Decatur Florence area. Why would someone in Huntsville be worried about Thomas Matthew Crooks or be searching Thomas Matthew Crooks? And the only places on earth I could find who were searching Thomas Matthew Crooks before the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting were Washington, D.C. and Huntsville, Alabama. And so my mind gets curious. What is the connection? There needs There There doesn't have to be a connection, but there probably is a connection. If it's not in California, it's not in Pennsylvania, and it's not in Florida, and it's not in Texas, and it's not in Indiana, and it's not in Ohio, and it's not in New York, but it's in Huntsville, Alabama and Washington, D.C. What is the connection? And then I start to remember. The FBI has a headquarters in Washington, D.C. obviously. But they also have a massive facility in Huntsville, Alabama. Hmm. Maybe that's the connection. Maybe someone in the FBI was searching Thomas Matthew Crooks before the Trump shooting, which would be remarkable, by the way. Which would be remarkable, but I can't prove that. That's just one data point out of all the trillions of data points on earth. That's just one. And I have a saying, if something happens once, it's a random occurrence. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is a pattern. Three times is a pattern. And I only had the one name to go by because there were no known accomplices or alleged accomplices. There were people speculating, oh, there was a second shooter or there was a third shooter or there was a team over here or there was a team over there. There were all these things. Someone must have been involved. Someone must have been helping him, but there were no names. I only had the one name to go on, and that's just a random occurrence. Even though it's little weird that it was in Washington, D.C. and a little weird that it was in Huntsville, all I had to go on was that. And I've done this with other things. As school shooters have popped up, as mass casualty events have popped up, I have searched the names of the people. And I don't usually get any hits. Most people, for whatever reason, just aren't searched that much. Now, maybe if you're on the radio or you're on television or you have a podcast or you're a sports figure or you're on a movie, yeah, or you're a politician, your name probably does get searched some. But most people named, you know, William Francis Sanderson, he's probably not searched all that much. Not enough to show up in a blip in random cities. And then the Charlie Kirk shooting happened. And I kind of sat there for a while and do you want to do the Google Trend search for the shooter? Do you want to be armed with this Do you really want to know this? This is a good comment here. How stupid are the agents of the FBI? I don't know that these are agents of the FBI. I will draw no conclusions tonight. I'm laying out facts. I will not say these is definitive proof someone at the I'm not doing that. What I'm doing is giving you the facts and you can draw your own conclusions. But incognito mode will not stop the Google Trends from showing up. It will not stop. If you use incognito mode in Huntsville, Alabama, it will still show up as a Huntsville, Alabama search. Now, if you used a VPN and you set it to Albania, maybe. But how do most people do their jobs? And most people don't know this functionality exists. I'm probably spoiling it from ever being used again, frankly, in in a high-profile event, but I think this is important. That was one of the considerations I had with people as I talked about whether to go public with this information. Not that a trillion people are going to find out about this, but just in case. I probably am spoiling my ability to ever do this again, but I think it's that important because the information I found is that disturbing. And I'm going to give it to you in a Oh, you're telling me the shooter Hey, it's worse. Wait. Boy, you're going to be shocked if you think it's just the shooter's name showing up in different locations. It It's bad. So, let me show you. Let me show you what I'm talking about here. I got to get rid of the Atlanta Braves search cuz that's irrelevant. So, let me show you the first search I ran. Again, the shooter's name was identified on September 11th late uh or maybe early September 12th. Early September 12th, the shooter's name is identified. It was Tyler James Robinson. So, I did a search for Tyler James Robinson nationally over the entire United States for the past 7 days. And you'll notice the gigantic spike right after the news broke. But I noticed right over here there's a little Damn, that's weird. And And And keep in mind, this is a blip large enough to show up on a on an index at a two. Now, I'm granted, I'm going to keep going. You're going to be surprised by what I show you here in a few minutes. It's a blip large enough to show up as a two the day before the Kirk shooting. The day before the Kirk shooting, someone in the United States searched Tyler James Robinson, the full name, first, middle, last name of the shooter. Now, what's interesting about that is I've not seen him listed anywhere as Tyler James Robinson. I've seen Tyler Robinson a lot. I've seen his name his mom's name. I think her name was Amber or something. She didn't do anything, so I'm I'm not blaming her. She I probably shouldn't have named her, but public. I've seen her dad's name. I've seen his dad's name. I've seen his roommate's name. I've seen all these other things. But I've not seen anywhere where it said Tyler James Robinson. I had to do some But it showed up there the evening before the Kirk shooting. So, I thought, Surely not. Surely it's not going to So, I go back to my notes. And I look at Where were the two places that Thomas Matthew Crooks showed up in before the shooting? at 11:00 a.m. the day before the Charlie Kirk shooting. And you'll see here where the news finally broke that it was in fact Tyler James Robinson. But notice that. That's weird. That's weird. That's going to be a recurring theme today. That's weird. You're telling me at 11:00 a.m. the day before the shooting? The Now, keep in mind, Charlie Kirk was assassinated on September 10th. is searching Tyler James Robinson the day before the shooting? Why? You can see clearly when the news broke. Why were they searching the day before? I go back to my notes. I take notes when I do this kind of stuff. Sleuthing around. I go back to my notes. Oh, it wasn't just Washington, Surely not. I think to myself before I even do the search. You know, Baron, if this shows up in Huntsville, I will officially start to panic if this shows up in 4:00 p.m. the day before the Charlie Kirk shooting. Huntsville, Alabama. Tyler James Robinson. Again, I'm not drawing a conclusion. I'm not telling you that somebody worked at a particular place. What I am telling you is A Huntsville IP searched for Tyler James Robinson about metro area searched for Tyler James Robinson. Are you telling me there could be more, though? Is it possible? Well, let me drill down not just to the D.C. metro area, but the District of Here again is where the news broke. Everybody on the planet went and searched Tyler Robinson. And you'll notice the third name But look at that. Look how strong of a signal that is in Washington, D.C. the night before the Charlie Kirk assassination. The night before the Charlie Kirk assassination in Washington, D.C., in the D.C. metro area, and in Huntsville, you're getting this strong of a signal. Tyler James Robinson. Well, now this is just bananas, I tell myself. Surely it has to stop here. Surely it has to stop here. And I even put my computer down. I closed the should I just stop? You know, there's a difference between Should I do any more searches? Because at this point I'm getting a little suspicious about where these people, or why these people might have been doing the searches. And again, I will not draw conclusions here. I can give you options. Maybe people work at government agencies. Maybe they work at private enterprise. Maybe they work for foreign states. Maybe they work Who knows why they're doing the searches, or who they work for when they're doing the searches. Maybe it's just somebody with a burning desire 9:00 the day before a Charlie Kirk assassination to look up Tyler James Robinson for no apparent reason. Maybe. Maybe. And then I get a weird piece of information. The night of the assassination, I start seeing everybody on Facebook saying, "Oh, there's a plane and its transponder went off." And I thought, nonsense. This is confirmation bias. Surely this is confirmation bias. They're listing the name of the guy who owns the plane. They're listing the tail number of the plane. They're listing the company the guy works for. And I'm thinking, this cannot have anything to do with it. And I'll tell you the story real quickly. About an hour after the assassination, a random plane owned by a random guy takes off from Provo, Utah, about an hour away, or 30 minutes away, however far away it is. And it And it flies south, and it's looks like it's heading towards Arizona. Uh but before it gets to the Utah Utah-Arizona border, it turns its It looks to me like it turns its transponder off based on the flight pattern. Again, I cannot confirm all that. I wasn't on the plane. And I am not an aviation professional. But when I got those hits on Tyler James I got to look. I got to look. I got to know. Is it possible that the owner of the plane, a guy named Derek Maxfield, and I am not accusing him of anything, by the way. This is not an accusation. This is me simply telling you what is in Google Trends. Just transmitting factual information. No opinion. No allegation of fact other than what I The guy named Derek Maxfield is associated either owns the LLC or is associated with the LLC that allegedly owns the plane that allegedly turned his transponder off that allegedly caused people to freak out on Facebook and act like it could have something to do with it. But I do the Google Trends search anyway And I see here where everybody starts freaking out saying that the transponder got turned off. Why was someone in the Washington, D.C. metro area searching for Derek Maxfield on September 7th and then not again until his the name breaks with the weird plane thing. That's just weird. That's just weird. But maybe it's just a coincidence. Maybe there's nothing more to it. You know what? Instead of popping off every time, I'm just going Well, that's just the Washington, D.C. metro area though. Maybe it's people in Maryland. Maybe it's So, let me drill down and see Huntsville, Alabama. Lo and behold, there's this Huntsville connection again. What the hell's going on in Huntsville, Alabama? Trust me, guys, I looked a lot of places. I didn't see any. I cannot tell you without a doubt there's not a single hit prior to the shooting anywhere else, but I can't tell You see the hit here where it became public about it, and then you see look back here, and you think that that's just freaking weird. This is 10:00 a.m. the day before Well, what about Utah? Okay, well, here are the hits in Utah from where the news started breaking the night of September 10th and on the next few days. But why What is this? This is 2 days before the shooting at Again, the day before the shooting at 10:00 And then I just drill it right down to the District of Columbia. I exclude all the other dates. In the morning of the shooting, about 3 hours before the shooting, Well, I think, well, maybe they're just looking for him. And again, I'm making no no definitive conclusions by any of this. I wasn't making a definitive conclusion with Tyler James Robinson back here. And I'm not making a definitive conclusion here where you see a little blip days before the shooting in Washington, D.C. I don't know what it means. But the search continues. I have to know more. So, I go to the tail number of the plane. N888 KG. November 888 Kilo Golf. And you can see here where the news breaks about the plane the evening of September 10th, the evening after the shooting. You can see the news break here about the plane, and everybody starts rushing to look at it as they come across it on their Facebook But what is that in Utah? Now, granted, the plane's based in Utah. But why the interest in this plane? And so, I go to Arizona. Remember he was he looked like the plane was headed to Arizona, and all of a sudden there's a hit there. 2 days before the shooting. 3 days Yeah, 2 days before the shooting. Oh, I'm getting ahead of myself. Again, no accusations. No allegations. Just showing you what the Google Trends search show. I've downloaded all this data. I've I may have no value. Maybe total coincidence. You know, if you're walking through the grocery store and you look and you see a penny on the floor and you pick it up, But if you look up about 20 ft, there's another penny, you think, oh, someone dropped two pennies. That's weird. And you look up another 20 ft, and there's another penny. You think, three pennies all 20 ft apart. That's really weird. You go around the corner, there's another penny, and another penny, and At some point, someone's not just dropping pennies. But I don't know that for a fact. Maybe they have a hole in their pocket that very consistently allows one penny at a time to come out at the pace they're walking. I don't Well, this took place on the campus of Oh, actually, I've got one more here, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so here's what I did here. This November 888 Kilo Golf here. I I I excluded You'll notice the date here. I excluded everything after September 1st in the Washington, D.C. area. Because I I I I I asked myself, and I did this with several of the other ones, and I can I can go through examples if you want me to, just so you you can kind of see how this works. But I asked myself, I'm getting some kind of statistical noise around the shooting, around the assassination attempt? So, I take the plane. This is the first one I did it with. I took the plane. I thought, okay, let me just exclude everything within a week of the shooting. The shooting took place on September 10th. I go back and I say, arbitrarily I'm going to just select September 1st for no reason whatsoever. And I'm going to go back a year. And actually, I went back 13 months. Whatever. And you'll notice in the Washington, D.C. area for November 888 Kilo Golf, there is no interest whatsoever in this plane in that area. No statistically relevant interest until the week and a half before the shooting. And all of a sudden, there's keen interest in November 888 Kilo Golf in the Washington, D.C. metro area. Now, we could keep this same date range. I'll do this live. No data. Meaning no statistically relevant quantity of searches on November 888 Kilo Golf in the 13 months leading up to the shooting, excluding the 10 days before the shooting. Which was the exact same thing I did for the Washington, D.C. metro area. I don't even know if I've done District of Columbia alone here. Let me try this live. There we are. We are researching live on air. Okay, not in District of Columbia. But if you go to the Washington, D.C. metro area, it has changed. Are they cleaning it up on the fly? You are kidding me. It is gone. It was there. I don't know what else to do with it. I've already downloaded the data, so it doesn't matter. Let's go to Utah Valley University, the The Washington D.C. metro area, again, I because there was so much interest, it was messing up all the statistics. But in the 3 weeks leading up to the shooting, no interest in Utah Valley University in On September 2nd, all of a sudden we have some interest. September 3rd, a little more interest. September 7th, peak interest, 4 days before 3 days before the shooting. The next day, a little interest, and then back down. But I think maybe someone's going to college. It's I mean, it's a probably a fine school. It looked beautiful on campus. Pictures I've seen on campus look stunning. I've no idea. I've never heard Whoa. Let's see Let's get out of the Utah U Valley University, and let me go to what I think is the most stunning fact yet. The The fact I think that could put it all together for people who want to draw conclusions. I don't want to draw conclusions. But for those who feel compelled to draw conclusions, let me show you something pretty wild. For the first day or so after the shooting, we were told Tyler James lived with his parents. In fact, his But in the last couple of days, news has broken that no, in fact, he had a roommate. And the roommate alleged roommate's name, allegedly, is Lance Twiggs. I cannot put allegedly on this enough. The roommate's alleged name is Lance Twiggs. So I thought, sure, let me see. Let me just search Lance Twiggs. It's a weird enough name that if it popped up, someone's looking for that guy. Now, keep in mind, these people are alleged to be in radical, you know, uh leftist groups. And they're alleged to be doing radical things And I have no doubt if you're kind of wild, and you're discussing on Discord, allegedly, shooting the assassination of a a beloved public figure, I'm guessing you probably the guy someone might want to So I pull up Lance Twiggs, and I get two But they're not recent. No. No, they're not recent at all. This is from January of 2023. This is almost 3 years ago. And I get another little blip here towards the end of 2023, almost 2 years ago. Somebody's radar blipped in the Washington D.C. area on the roommate of the assassin 2 and 3 years ago. Again, I don't know who it was. Might be a guy that took a fancy to the the roommate. Might be a girl that took a fancy to the roommate. Might be a cousin who was in town in Washington D.C. and thought, Now, Lance Twiggs lives in Utah, But somebody in the area took a keen interest on Lance Twiggs several years ago. So I start thinking, if if I'm if I'm doing all these searches in the Washington D.C. area, and I'm and I'm plotting an assassination, what else might I need to search? I looked up Utah Valley University. I looked up the alleged, you know, what some people were saying could possibly be a getaway vehicle. I looked up the owner of the said vehicle. I looked up the shooter. What else? Well, if you go to the scene of the crime, there was a very unusually named building that the shooter allegedly The alleged shooter allegedly perched on. I got Let's just assume everything I say in this thing is alleged. Now, if you do a nationwide search for just the word Losee, you're going to get some hits in the uh Nevada area. I think there's a city or a road or But the rest of the country is pretty stark when it comes to Losee. And if you go to Losee Center, very few people outside of the state of Utah have ever fancied what the Losee Center is. But if you're planning to assassinate somebody, and you're looking for good places to do the assassination, and you want to know more about those places, you might And if you pull up a map of the little courtyard where Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and you look around, and you think, well, that might not be a bad spot because you could run right off the northern corner of the building there, and you're you're home free. You got You So I looked it up. Now, this is a while ago. This was the Huntsville area. For some reason, mid to late spring, somebody takes a keen interest in in Huntsville, Alabama. And that's the only hit we get. Now, granted, see here, I've excluded the days the day or two leading up to the shooting and the day of the shooting because it's again, all the statistical noise just just ran all this stuff to basically zero. So if you want to see the index, you've got to exclude all that noise. And then I thought, surely not if they're in Huntsville, surely not in the Washington D.C. Oh gosh, here we are. This is probably the wildest search that September 8th, you can see here where the shooting breaks. 3:00 p.m., he shot. By 4:00 p.m., everybody on the planet is searching Losee Center, including people in the Washington D.C. metro area. But I saw this blip and thought, why? Why on September 8th, 2 days before the shooting, is someone searching the Losee Center? Why? What is it they wanted to know? I'm not going to make the mistake I made a moment ago, but let me just give you an example here. I'm going to open a new tab. Well, I got to close my thing to open a new tab. Hold, please. Let me open a new tab, and we'll do a We'll do a trend search. Anybody want to name a topic? We'll do it together. You got the comments here. Uh may need to do the search for Baron Coleman. I don't think that's smart. I could try it. But I'm not going to do that. Uh accusations, none. If you want me to do a search, if you have any of these terms that have come up over the course of this investigation, you think, I sure would like what to know what people are saying I'll be happy to do the search live. If What about a No, people aren't going to search a Mauser 98, are they? Was that Was that the what the shooting was? A a 98 model Mauser? Let's try it. Mauser 98. Lots Lots the last couple days, you'll see that. Lots of interest the last couple days. Let's go to the last 7 days. See, uh very little interest the morning of. That's kind of weird, actually, cuz we have no interest, and then we have a little Where's that interest coming from? Oh. Well, I have to exclude this cuz obviously Utah. So these are your It's a really fascinating tool, by the way. If you want to look in here, you can You can see what it is people are searching along with Mauser 98. .30-06 Springfield, uh Tyler Rawlinson Foundation, I've never heard of that. Fascism. You know, all fascists carry a Mauser 98. Length, dimension, sniper, uh Tyler You get all these searches here. But let's exclude some time, shall we? Let's just do this just for this I've not done this one, by the way. We're going to have to go back in time, and we're going to have to do it from before the shooting. So let's let's exclude it to November uh September 9th. And so let's just do a national one. Let's do a month. Let's do April 10th to to November 9th. And let's just see. I don't know what this is going to show. It might show nothing or not enough information. This is I do not want to be like Geraldo ripping open the safe expecting to see great thing. I don't know what this is going to show. I ran a thousand searches. No, I didn't. I ran like 30 or Some of them actually showed stuff. I just I got to I only I only wanted to be Okay, so this is interesting. Over the United States in the month leading up, there was no interest in Mauser 98s until August 31st. And then there was a blip and we really got a good hit on September 7th, 3 days before the shooting. Now this is in the entire United States. And Pennsylvania, somebody must have We can look at other subregions here. Uh So let's let's let's change the jurisdiction here. Let's do it in the District of Columbia. Again, not making any guarantees. But there is a hit right there, Mauser 98 on August 27th, 2025. And it's the only time in the month that it was searched. Let's expand the parameters. From August 10 of 2025, cuz that's only a month. Let's expand it back uh Still only that hit. And still only April 20th. And if you remember, Loews E Center Was it Loews E Center that had the April hit? One of these had an April hit. Which one was that? So in the District of Columbia, Mauser 98 has been searched on exactly two dates. There's not even enough co- correlating data here to to add up anything else. Well, let's go outside. Remember our good friends in Huntsville like to maybe it's like that everywhere. So let's try uh a medium-sized state. Let's do uh let's do Tennessee. That's a nice medium-sized state. Okay, so one one day. Let's do uh Ohio. That's a kind of a bigger state, several metro areas. Got a hit there. Okay, so maybe this is just statistical noise. Maybe there's nothing to it. Arizona? No. Uh let's try Colorado. They hunt out there. No. So hey, maybe it's just statistical noise. That's not something I would have showed you had I done the research on that. What else could we look up? What else was it about What else was it Uh Frank Turek? That was one of his buddies. He was the guy that was allegedly given baseball I think he was the guy allegedly given baseball signals. And I want to say right now, I don't believe that. But I am going to tell you in a minute why I think someone on the Charlie Kirk team could have been involved or somebody had intel into the Charlie Kirk camp. Those are your two options. I don't believe that this assassination I said I wasn't going to do any conclusions. Never mind. Scratch that, maybe that's another show. Let's do Frank Turek. Because I think this will clear his name. Frankly. Was that his name, Frank Turek? Let me look this up. You guys are seeing research on the fly here. That's his name. Okay. So this is good because I have the data the shooting excluded here. Everything starts before. In Utah, there's no searching of Frank Turek. Let's go Washington D.C. metro area. Oh. There's Frank Turek. But maybe that's just something that Nothing. So Washington D.C. metro area, so let's just do the District of Columbia. Let's exclude Virginia and Maryland. Oh, that's what I was getting from there. I'm trying to exclude you, Frank. Colorado. Let's just do a random state in the middle of the country. Did we try Utah yet? Is that where we started? Damn, Frank. Trying to help you out here, brother. Seem like a likable guy. Oh, here's a hit. Oh, Florida. Ooh, Okay, so the day before the shooting, somebody in Florida searched Frank Turek. Let's try a big state, California. Surely we'll get Oh, no. A few hits. Is he from Texas? Let's try Arizona, cuz isn't that where Charlie Kirk is from? Or he's been living? No, nothing there. I wonder why the wonder why Texas. What's What's up with Texas? What else are they searching? Debate. Oh, he must have been involved in a debate there or something. Is he a Um I It Here's what I don't think I can do. I don't think this is um Let's just speculate. If you're planning the Charlie Kirk assassination would you search the term assassin or assassination? I mean, if you're searching the Loews E I'm not suggesting anyone use Google to plan this. That's not it. Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm just showing you the facts that are out there on Google Trends. If you want to draw a conclusion, that's your business. But but but let's let's just run down that rabbit trail for a second. If you're If you're going to plan the Charlie Kirk assassination, what types of things would you want to Google search? You wouldn't want to Google search assassin. Oh. Here's why I don't think You would have to assume that's something that people have in mind. I I I just had a thought while we were talk I was talking. I want to do District of Columbia. I'll come back to that. I'm not ignoring you. I just don't want to forget to do this. I want to do Frank Turek, but I want to go back like 3 years and 6 months. And see if that noise disappears. Yeah, I figured it would. Which means it wasn't a huge search. So let's go back to Let's go back a year Yeah. So it it it's just a small search and apparently there's an author named Frank Turek. I'll look it up. Yeah, okay. I'll I'll play the game. Utah But again, again, let me tell you something. That's weird that Utah death penalty was searched in the District of Columbia the days leading up to it. But they I mean hey. Um and in February at some time randomly. I don't think if you're going to assassinate a public figure of Charlie Kirk's stature. And I don't mean to make him a president or a senator. Although he's probably more famous than most senators. I I hear people's names sometimes and they're like, "Oh, he's a senator from Idaho." I'm like, "What? Really?" This guy has power? I don't think anyone planning the assassination of a public figure is worried about the death penalty. I don't I don't think it's an adequate deterrent. Uh What's another thing I can search here? I I like doing this live on the fly. Actually, you know what I could do? I could expand some of the parameters around here, maybe clear Derek Maxfield entirely. Let me do that. Because I I feel bad cuz I don't I don't know that I believe that he was involved. I just wanted to do the search because other people were suggesting they didn't buy the fact that he wasn't involved. So I thought, "Well, let me clear his name." And then when I couldn't, I thought, "All right, I'll go with it." But let me do this. I'm going to look up Derek Maxfield. I will expand some of these parameters. Obviously in the past day, so I'm going to get a custom time range. And let's let's exclude everything after the shooting. So we'll go to September 9th. Actually, I need to go lower than that. Let's go to September 2nd, cuz I have to clear the whole week leading up to the shooting. So let me expand this a little bit back uh So in the United States, there's not enough information about Derek Maxfield in the weeks leading up to the the shooting, which is good. If I'm Derrick Maxfield, that's a that's a a good uh a good fact for me. I'm happy with that fact. Now, let's go to the District of Columbia. Yep. So so this is good. These are good facts for uh for Derrick Maxfield and I There's one little blip in Arizona in May. Here's why the dates in the last 6 months to a year are relevant, though, when would Charlie Kirk first have planned? Let me let me exit out of here for a second. When would Charlie Kirk first have planned that he was going to be I'm going to leave this uh I'll I'll come back to that. When would Charlie Kirk first have planned that he was going to be on Utah Valley University on September 10th, 2025? Now, I asked Grok. when was the first public announcement of his appearance of the Charlie Kirk appearance?" And the answer was this university first announced it I think on September 1st or 2nd, and he was there on September 10th. So they didn't give a lot of lead time. Which would if that was the first public admission, it would kind of make But then I thought, "All right, Grok, was it on Charlie Kirk's website or X feed or Facebook page?" So I asked it that. And it goes back and says, "The first mention on any of those sources was I think August 27th or something." A little earlier. But it doesn't really explain the the hits on the names that came the Loosi Center and all that weeks or months ahead of time. Then I thought, "Wait a minute. That's nonsense. I have been involved in planning large events. I've been to large events that have been planned. Especially on a tour, you don't just plan it the day before you announce it. You've got to contact the university, the chapter. You got to send out a note to your chapter, "Hey, I'm going to do a fall tour. If you're interested in hosting me, let me know." That probably happened. And then you get a bunch of responses. And you sift through the responses and you try to sort of plan out maybe regionally. I'm going to start on the West Coast. I'm going to work my way east or I'm going to start in New York. I'm going to work my way to Los Angeles. And you start going through all this and then you you sort of think, "Okay, well, let me uh I'll start reaching out to people." So you reach out to the chapters. Hey, what dates do you have available? And then you got to go to the university and you got to get a a sponsor and then you got to get a permission and you got to have a security plan and you got to have you might need a permit or something. I I don't know. I mean, there there are things associated with it. And then you have to line up your logistics. You saw what he took. I mean, it's it's a truck. It's an 18-wheeler or more Their audio equipment, I wish there'd been better security equipment. Though I'm not sure anything could be done. I mean, short of putting up bulletproof glass everywhere you go, I mean, you at some point you you just got to trust faith that you're not going to get shot But it takes time. It's months. It could be upwards of 6, 9 months or more. From the time you first think, "Hey, team, And there'd be emails going back and forth. And at some point there would be an email that went back and forth and said either to Charlie or Charlie's manager or the the logistics coordinator or the events coordinator or whatever. I mean, you get a team. This is a well-funded operation. Tens of million dollars a year spent on this organization. This was not a fly-by-night guy just showing up. Charlie was well well-made. I heard rumors of how much money was going through there. I don't know, but it was in the tens of millions of When you got a security team you travel with, you got to get a So at some point there would have been an email out and said, "Hey, we can get on the Utah Valley University campus. We'll be in the little courtyard." And then somebody, if they saw that email, could look and say, "This is where Charlie's going to be." Now, whether they had an inside man that said, "Hey, here's Charlie's itinerary where he's going to be in the next 6 months." Or whether somebody had access to it. There was a weak point. Somebody infiltrated his email system or his text messages. Or somebody used a government program to look at his emails or text messages. We We know that exists. There've been news items about that. Everybody tends to ignore it, but hundreds of millions of searches of your private information done by non-government employees. But you will uh inevitably discuss where you're going to be. So if somebody wanted to look up, now let's go back and see if this If somebody wanted to be where you were going to be, they might know 6 months ahead of time where you were going to be. They may They certainly could have known 2 days before. Again, assuming somebody in the And this is Washington D.C. I've Did you catch that? I'm scared to scroll Oh, because that's not excluding it. Okay, that makes sense. Shooting. But somebody in Washington D.C. 2 days before the shooting searched the They certainly would have known 2 days ahead of time. Yeah, this comment is where I was headed. 6 months ahead for security reasons. Sure. I think there's at least a 6-month lead time. From where you know where you're going to be or at least your team knows where you're going to be until the actual date I mean, certainly the run of show had it And your security team would have to have looked at a Google Map and mapped This is the one I want to look at. Closest location for police department. Now, this is going to be an interesting search and I I I'm I am I do want to keep this to an hour and I'm I'm at 58 minutes. Oh, goodness gracious. Uh Let me do this. I'll use this one. Um let's see here. What's the name of the town? Orem, Oh. Oh, that's the close that date. Let's go to So this is a 6-month look on Orem, Utah. And then I'm going to look up the Orem, Utah Police Department in just a second. But give me just a second. I want to engage a curiosity that just hit me. Orem, Utah, no search there. Yeah, there is a search for Orem, Utah on Washington D.C. area before. Between August 31st and September 6th, someone in Washington D.C. searched Orem, Utah. Now, they may not have a kid Let's just try the District of Columbia Okay, that was the shooting. So let's go Actually, you know what? Do we know where the Orem It would be the campus police. Oh. It'd be the campus police, David. So on this one right here, the closest police department is going to be on campus. So that kind of screws up that whole search. That sounded interesting. I'm not I'm not opposed to that search, but uh there's just not much there because of the uh Thank you, Kevin. I thought so. I hadn't intended to do a podcast again Um and let me talk about that. I I mean, I'll wrap up with this. >> [clears throat] >> Several months ago I stopped doing my weekly podcast. I was doing it on Sunday night at 7:00. I went at 6:00 today. Um and I I told you I would fill you back in and get started again one day and I don't know if I'm just going to be regular from this point forward, but I I made everything private and all that. You could [clears throat] probably guess why. You could probably guess why I made everything private and stopped stopped talking on on on air on everything that came to my mind in a given week. Um but I I I I do want to get back to it. I just need to take a perhaps different approach this time. Uh maybe not everything that comes to mind Maybe not everything that comes to mind needs to be said out loud. Oh, I just One, two, three of the eight people on the wall behind me were either or four four of the eight people on the wall behind me were either assassinated or shot in an assassination attempt. John Kennedy prior to September 10th, 2025 was the most shocking assassination, I think, ever recorded. There've probably been worse assassinations. But I mean assassination business goes back thousands of years. Julius Caesar was assassinated with a knife. Wasn't videoed. John Kennedy's assassination was, and I think that might be why he had such a connection with the people. I've gone back and looked at this. I've been fascinated with Kennedy for a long time. I think his portrait is so haunting. I think his his portrait is so haunting. His official portrait where he's staring down at the ground and you can't even hardly see his face. John Kennedy. Very dark colors, natural colors, browns But if you go back and look, and I've done this, if you go back and look, his uh his approval numbers weren't that great Now, he's one of the most beloved presidents of all time now. But you wonder to what extent is a public slaughtering contributing to that? See, it's one thing if everybody just woke up to news the next morning. Hey, John Kennedy got assassinated last night. Did you hear? No, I didn't hear that. It's terrible. It's tragic. Even if you didn't like him. Like I I used to tell people that I wish something happened to Barack Obama. No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't want to live in a country where people get assassinated. Where presidents and political leaders get assa- You don't want to live in that country. You don't want to live in a country where political figures get assassinated like Charlie Kirk. You don't want to live in that country. And we've all been treated to the lefties and the lunatics on college campuses and in cities and on beaches and all this where people go around and they do the man on the street stuff. I don't know if I'm a big fan of those, but but you know, I'm a sucker for them. But they go around and they do the man on the street stuff and they say, "What do you think about Charlie Kirk's getting assassinated?" Someone's like, "Yeah, somebody had to do it." Uh he deserved it. We've all watched them. We've done our two minutes hate on them. We we shake our head at Gen Z or Gen Y or whatever they are and we we wonder how society I've already told you I love AOC. I do. I don't agree with her on hardly anything. Couple issues here and there. Most of the stuff I and I wouldn't want her to be president. I would take almost anyone else in the I mean I would I honestly, if it was like you get AOC or spin in the wheel and whoever it let We're going to put 350 million names in there. Legal people qualified to So, we'll put 200 million names in there. We're going to spin the wheel. Everybody over the age of 35 under the age of let's say 70. I've got just as much of chance as most I would take the wheel over AOC, but I So, it's not it's not liberals. I'm not saying that I don't like these man on the street things because of liberals. That's not it. If I could be assassinated, if someone would shoot me because of words that came out of my mouth that they disagreed with, then in theory, morally, if they're morally okay with that, then in theory, morally, they have to agree that it's okay if I kill them first for the words that come out of their mouth cuz I disagree with them. In other words, if your speech that someone disagrees with is a reason to die, that doesn't matter what the political point of view being espoused is. I hope I said that well. I hadn't planned to talk about this, so I didn't have anything written down. I hadn't thought through it. If that's your mentality, and that's why I didn't like it when people used to either joke about it or say it seriously about people like Obama or Biden or even back in the day with Bill Clinton, George Bush. I didn't agree with any of I see people on the left that drive me absolutely batty, commentators. I don't want them to die. I see lunatics on these man on the street interviews that say some of the most vicious, nasty things you've ever heard. I don't want them to die for it. These leftist podcasters that say some horrible things and oh, they're inciting. I don't want them to die for their thoughts. I don't want them to be assassinated, murdered, killed, whatever the word is. I don't want it. And the reason is uh aside from it being morally wrong to kill people. If it's right that they should die because I disagree with them, then it's right that I should die because they disagree with me and vice versa. If their opinion is that Charlie Kirk should die because they disagree with him, then they should die if Charlie Kirk disagrees with them or anyone else. And that's not a world you want to live in. I've heard a lot of foolish things on the right lately, too. Since this in the last four days. Oh, we're going to grab our guns. Stop it. You're not doing anything. Don't A, don't. You don't want to live in the world where people are going door-to-door shooting each other. Hunting you down Like you're a damn squirrel. And you're jumping tree to tree trying to dodge bullets or stay out of a hunt. You hear a snap of a twig and you go tearing off through the forest. You Now, A, it's not right, but B, you won't make it very long. There's a lot of people out there. You remember the Royal Rumble? I don't know why I thought of this. Back in the '80s, early '90s, you'd watch the I don't even know, maybe they still do the Royal Rumble, but they'd have like a 30-man wrestling contest. And they'd send people in there like one at a time and at some point there's 18 people in there beating each other with chairs and they're elbowing each other and they're top roping each other. Atomic elbow. It didn't last very long. People got cycled through pretty quick People got cycled through pretty quick. Cuz when everybody's fighting, you don't We're not in that world. Buddy, we are not in that world. If you went to the grocery store today, if you went to church this morning, we are not We're not in that world. If you stopped and got gas, you go for a walk around your neighborhood, go to the gym, go to Burger King, go get a coffee, Well, you edited it, but it's the same. Let me say, we're not in that world. You don't want to live in that world and And I don't think people should be so Like I I'll admit, some of those searches were pretty disturbing that we've covered tonight. And you could draw a lot of conclusions with that. But the reality is we don't have subpoena power over Google. We don't know who made those searches. I do think it's evidence that someone was searching. And I think that's potentially very disturbing. That people are searching the names of these people in the days leading up to the shooting. That's So, that's disturbing, honestly. It's just It's just bad. But I don't know what it means. I don't know who it was. I don't know are they government employees? Are they state actors? Are they private people? Are they cousins? I don't know. It's weird. It's very disturbing. I think it bears some journalistic outfit looking into, maybe even government agencies looking into. I do think that. If I'm the FBI, I want to know who's searching those. If I'm the Utah State Police, I want to know who's making those searches. I just do. If I'm Tyler James Robinson's family, I want to know. Or Twiggs Lance Twiggs' family, I want to know. Or if I'm Derek Maxfield, Yes, if I'm Derek Maxfield, I want to know who is searching my name in the Washington D.C. and Huntsville metro areas in the days leading up to the shooting. Because maybe somebody was trying to pin something on me that I didn't have anything to do with. I would like to know that. Or I mean, it's just a Everyone should want to know. More information is better than less information. And I understand it's very early on in investigation. In a normal homicide investigation, 4 days in, they haven't even opened the file book yet. But I want to add something here. I I'll probably close with this. I don't know. Depends on if you guys comment anything good. Charlie was a good guy, obviously. I mean, stories come flooding in about how great of a human being he was. I never once listened to Charlie Kirk podcast. Not my brand of conservatism. I didn't have a problem with him. I don't listen to Sean Hannity. Don't necessarily have a problem with him. I don't listen to Bill O'Reilly I don't listen to a lot of these right-wing podcasts everybody listens to. I only get so many hours a day. I work. I got family. And Charlie was not one of the people I listened to. Now, I'll admit I did with great glee sometimes come across a YouTuber or a TikTok video of Charlie just eviscerating some, you know, a nincompoop on a college campus. And it was fun. You know, watching them freeze in response to what he was saying. It was fun. It was It was great. But I you know, if someone came up to me the week before the assassination said, "What do you think of Charlie Kirk?" I'd say, "Take him or leave him." That is not He's not blasphemy. He's not a saint. He's not a you know, he's not God. He was a great human being. There's no doubt about it. I'm not taking a thing away from him on that. Please do not misunderstand what I'm saying. He absolutely deserves tonight to be spending the night with his wife and his two children. He gets to He deserves to teach them to drive. To help them with their algebra. To walk them down the aisle. To take a family vacation with everybody. He deserves that. And he lost it. It was stolen from him. And it was stolen from his wife and his kids. It's horrific. If you believe in the metaphysical world that Charlie Kirk believed in, you believe he's in heaven. He's in a better place. To die is gain, right? To live is Christ, to die is gain. That's That's the religion Charlie believed in. It's religion his wife and kids or his wife believes in. His kids are probably But it doesn't mean that there aren't important things that take place here that he was that were stolen from him and his family. It doesn't mean there aren't important It doesn't mean you're better off dead I've always thought that was trite when people say that. Oh, he's in a better place. Well, yeah, I mean, if you But it doesn't mean that someone deserves to be cut down at 31 years old But I think a lot of the connection to him, cuz I feel now feel a very emotional connection to him. I now feel like very emotional connection to Charlie Kirk that I did not feel on September 9th. Again, on September 9th, you come to me say, "Baron, what do you think of Charlie Kirk?" I'd have said, "He's all right." "Do you listen to him?" Nope. "Do you watch him?" Nope. "Have you ever been to an event?" Nope. Heard good things about a lot of people. I don't particularly care one way or the other about him. But now I feel a deep emotional I think the same reason a lot of people feel a deep emotional connection to John Kennedy. When you watch such a horrific slaughter, you can identify with that person in a I got the text. I I mean, I I really do believe And again, this is someone who really could take or leave him 5 days ago. I got a text. I think it was from my sister. I I know it was from my sister. To a family group text. Oh my gosh, Charlie Kirk shot in the neck. WTF or something like that. I don't want to attribute I thought, "That's weird." Who would shoot Charlie Kirk? Of all people on the earth to get shot, why him? So, I I did what everybody does. I go to X. I search Charlie Kirk shot. Notice nobody goes to CNN or MSNBC or Fox News or ABC or NBC or CBS or New York Times or Washington Post or AP or Reuters or UPI. Nobody goes there anymore. They go to their favorite podcaster. They go to their favorite X people. And I went and I searched X, Twitter, and I searched Charlie Kirk shot or something, Charlie Kirk shooting, and I see the distant video. The distant video. And you hear the crack of the rifle, the So, you know it's just one shot. I thought, "Man, one shot. Wow." And you see him slump over and I thought, "Man, I hope they just winged him. Like I hope they just got him in the arm and it just knocked him down, right?" You couldn't see anything from the far away video. Then I made a huge mistake. And someone had posted the close-up. It's kind of from like 10:00 from where And it And stupidly, I clicked it because I was trying to figure out was he just wounded? Is there something he's going to survive? Or is this something that's Like did it hit him in the middle of the chest, right? And I clicked on it. And I saw the the next shot and the massive quantity of blood. I mean, like a gallon of blood in a couple of seconds. I mean, it was a tremendous amount of blood. And I saw the look on his face and the hands and the whole thing. >> [snorts] And I wished I hadn't seen it. And I was on the phone with somebody. I said, "Don't look at it." "If you find it, don't" I think it was on with my sister, maybe. I said, "If you find it, do not look at it. Do not go find that video. I had a welling of empathy in my soul that I never would have imagined I had It was almost supernatural connection to him in in a second. I'm not a crier. I've cried. Don't get me wrong. But I'm But my eyes even watered up a little bit as I thought about it. I thought, "I can't believe what I just witnessed." And I think there's a lot of that. I think that's a lot of the explanation for the for the shock and the outrage, the sending Air Force 2. The uh ABC News. ABC News. I didn't check the other channels. But I pull up YouTube TV on my phone. And I look at the lead anchor for ABC News. They broken into regular programming at 3:00 ABC News. When his death was finally announced, it was announced by the 47th president of the United States. How many people How many people on earth ever in the history of the United States of America have had their death first announced by the president of the United States? I'm not talking about the president acknowledges it. That's happened. It happens a lot. Happens all the time. I'm talking about the very first mention ever of Charlie Kirk's death. The first person to say, "I know for a fact he's dead." The president of the United States. Guys, we're fighting wars. We just bombed Somalia for the 75th time this year. I bet you didn't know that. That's the That's the longest running war America currently has going so for 20 years. We've bombed Somalia 75 times this year. We've bombed Iran. We're providing material support to Israel for their I don't want to call it a war because it I mean That's like saying if uh UFC fighter pummeled a kindergartner to death that that was a fight. But whatever's going on over there, skirmish, you know, we're providing material We're providing material support to Ukraine. Real stuff the president of the United States does. And he stops what he's doing to announce the death And I got to believe that video had a You know why Trey Gowdy probably Because Trey Gowdy has terrible hair. And he doesn't want people looking at his hair. Now, that's not why. You guys don't know this because a lot of you on the right were brainwashed by Trey Gowdy. You remember me on the air 10, 11, 12 years ago on a daily radio show telling you guys when you guys would call into the Oh, Trey Gowdy said this. Trey Gowdy said that. Trey Gowdy is a hero. Trey Gowdy is a conservative monster. Trey Gowdy is Tea Party. I was consistent from the beginning. Trey Gowdy is a scam. He's a scam artist. He's a gun grabber. Doesn't surprise me what's happening to go watch it. He wants to get you emotionally primed to steal your weapons. If you don't think he's a gun grabber, do some research. He's been one for a long time. I'm hearing people say they're okay ignoring first amendment rights to punish people cheering for Charlie Kirk being killed. I don't think the government should take any action whatsoever with people speaking. In fact, I think it's proscribed in the First Amendment. Con- Well, as interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States. I'll tell you a funny story about that. The The Supreme Court is very clear. First Amendment, Congress shall make no law. Does it say anything about the municipal city council? Does it say anything about the local school board? Does it say anything about the board of mayors and Auburn alderman and city council? It doesn't say anything about your local state reps or state senators. The Congress of the United States of America shall make no law about freedom of speech. That's it. The only thing proscribed by the First Amendment. Now, what people are calling for is Congress to pass a law to restrict the freedom of speech. The Supreme Court has applied the freedom of speech to to everything through the 14th Amendment. I will never forget. I took a First Amendment class in law school. Only because I adored the professor. I won't say her name. She was amazing. She and her husband both taught at the law school and um I had a class with her and I just I loved her. Not Not in an attractive way. Fact, if I pulled up a picture, you'd understand what I'm saying. Not to say she's unattractive, but it wasn't that. She was quite a bit older than I was and it wasn't that. I loved her intellect. Now, this woman was a raging radical leftist. I mean, more than most people you come across. We're talking leftist law professors. They are on another planet, brother. Not like anything you would come across in in daily life. These are people have no consequences for anything they think or say. They have tenure. They're highly paid. They've got endowed chairs. They're going nowhere. So, they can say anything. And they do. But I loved her intellect, man. She was smart. I think she and her husband The rumor was they finished first and second And then they went and started teaching together. But in studying for the final exam, keep in mind the First Amendment's only like that long. Like it If I printed it out on a text, it would be like that. It'd be like that much text right there. It would be like that. It's that short. You shouldn't have to study an entire semester to understand it. But I come in for our review day and I have a two poster boards taped together. I don't know where my hands are out of the screen here. Where's the hand? There. Two poster boards taped together like this long. I got it taped on the backside and I've written in like 6.5 font all over it. There's arrows going this way and that way and this way and that way cuz I had to visualize it cuz it's so complex the way that it's been interpreted. There's a test for this. There's a lemon test for that. There's a something test for this. There's a something test for that. And you got to know all the elements of all the tests and you got to know the the major cases that put the test in. You got to know the years and you got to know what came before and what came after cuz on an exam, you're going to have to articulate all this. So, you better know it. You better be able to see it cuz you're not going to be able to take your giant poster boards in the class with you. But I brought it in to show her to say, "Hey, is there anything I need to fix? Is this pretty much sum it up?" And she said, "Yeah, it's pretty close." >> [laughter] >> And I And I said to her, I said, "You know, Professor Blank, isn't it a shame that it takes me two poster boards, probably a thousand words, all these arrows and pictures and stars and all Isn't it a shame that it takes me all of that Do you think that's what the founders And she made a comment that gave me a lot of insight into what the left How they think. It was brilliant. I don't agree with it, but it was brilliant. The Supreme Court doesn't exist to tell us what the founders thought. The Supreme Court exists to tell us what we wish the founders would have said. How shocking that is to a young conservative? Let me just say it again. The Supreme Court exists. This was her leftist opinion. The Supreme Court exists to tell us what we wish the founders would have said. In other words, the founders couldn't have imagined we'd have local school boards that have as much power as they have. And had they known, we wish that they If we could go back and tell them, we wish they would have said, "Hey, hey, not only Congress, but state governments, county governments, subdivisions, cities, municipal corporations, nobody in government needs to restrict And I said, "Well, but that's fine, but we have all these We have all these actual restrictions. Time, place, and manner restrictions. That's a restriction on speech." You know, free speech zones? A time, place, and manner. You can You can protest on this day in this area. We'll give you a You have to get a permit. You have to do this. You have to do that. I'm getting a call from somebody. They must not have gotten the message that I'm on here. Or maybe they're telling me to shut up. The lawyer. Uh I said, "But And And then her her position was, "Yes, but we wish they would have said that because it makes a more orderly society." And I will say on some of the things I I tend to agree with her. On some of the constitutional issues, I tend to agree with her. That there are things that if we could go back in time, we wish the Supreme Court would have said. I've got no problem with Miranda. Miranda versus Arizona. The right to remain silent, the right to an attorney. Being Being notified of all I got no problem with that. I wish they would have gone farther and said, "And cops can't lie to you to get you to trick you into saying something. They have to be honest with you. And if you answer something and they weren't truthful, it's not going to be held against you." But they'll never do that. I wish they would have gone farther and said, "Hey, when the FBI interviews you, they have You don't get to be judged on whether you were honest based on some written summary of what they believe they remember you said. I think that's nonsense. Especially in the day and age when But log on to talk about any of that. I can attest to stance on bad hair Trey. Yes, I've been consistent on Mr. Gowdy from the beginning. Always was suspect of him. Anyone with hair that bad cannot be trusted. I've I've seen very few people in Congress with worse hair than Trey Gowdy. James Traficant had worse hair, but I think his was a rug. Uh what what's the guy in Alabama with Give it up, Mike. You're fooling nobody. There's no one on the planet that thinks And I don't care if people wear rugs. But get a good one. Get a believable one. If the first second I see you I'm like rug. That's a rug. Then then then you're not fooling anybody, you might as well not wear it. You guys don't know this is a rug. Just kidding, it's not. But if I tilt my head down, it's a bad angle. All right, guys. Um anything else up here? Do you have an opinion on the differences in the faces of the alleged suspects and the ones they posted looking for him? No, I don't because the faces that you're probably thinking of were artificial uh interpretations. A lot of people ran the initial blurry images of the suspect that the Utah Valley police released when they said help us find or the Utah State Police maybe when they said help us find this person. A lot of people ran those blurry images through an AI and the AI kind of hallucinated what they thought it probably looked like and it turned out And so what you're probably thinking the original picture was How do we normalize getting to getting help to those mentally ill disturbed who can't process opposition that go to extremes that think that thought process normal? Well, that's a big question. How do we normalize getting help to those mentally ill disturbed people? People aren't going to want to hear what And this is me thinking should I say it? I've learned a lot since going off air a few months ago. Not everything that comes in my head needs to be said out loud. Ooh. The guy who was calling me has done Wow. Interesting. I'm not going to go with those cuz I didn't do one and I'm trying to wind down, but there's something to this Google Trends search, guys. There's something to what we discovered tonight. I don't know what it is. Oh, back to the How do we normalize I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it because you guys aren't ready to hear it. Not all of you. Some of you will say yeah, you're But many of you are not formed sufficiently to hear and accept what I am going to tell you. That is Maybe I'll get this channel going again on some regular basis. I'm not going to do Sunday night at 7:00 every night. I'll probably mix it up, maybe go midweek some when I have time. But I I think I'm going to get it fired up again. I miss the microphone. I did this daily for years. I did it as a fill-in basis for years. Um I think I calculated one time I spent like 11,000 hours on air at one point. Uh and I'm told I'm told if you do 10,000 hours of something you're an expert. I I'm just telling you what I've been told. I'll I'll hint at it. They don't know that they're mentally I don't think a lot of what we characterize as mental illness is mental illness. Didn't Miranda play an organ have goats and feed them Blue Bell ice cream? Yes. So when I was on the air regularly, we had characters that would call in um including Craig. He's commenting here. And one of them was a girl named Miranda. Miranda lived out away from town. Her character. And for a long time I I tried to figure out if it was really a woman from Maplesville named Miranda. And she had a goat and the you could hear the goat in the background. Play her organ. Yeah, that's the way I wanted to say it. Uh or like like an organ. Not a church organ. Not Come on, guys. Get your head out of gutter. And and she uh alleged that she would wear a Confederate bikini down on the river and cause commotion. She would feed Blue Bell ice cream to And I actually had the occasion one time to sit in the office with the mayor of tiny tiny Maplesville. His name Hayes something? Something Hayes Hayes something? I don't remember why I was up there. Was up there working doing something for a consulting shop we worked for. And um and I asked him point blank. I was like, hey. It's a small town. I'm sure you know everybody. He's like, I know everybody in town. I personally know everybody in town. I was like, hey. I need to know what you know about a girl named Miranda. He's like, I don't think there's anyone here named Miranda. I was like, well, she's she lives here. She has a goat. He goes, buddy, that doesn't narrow it down any. Everybody here has a goat. >> [laughter] >> I I'm at a wedding one day. A very dear friend of mine had a child getting married. A a daughter getting married. And this woman walks up to me and she starts talking and I look at her and I said Miranda? And she died laughing. I mean died laughing. I said, what is your real name? And she told me who she was and who her husband was and I was familiar with the family. I actually had met the daughter in another uh profession. Or another volunteer effort, I guess we'll say. Um I don't want to out who Miranda was for those that don't know and those who are watching that remember her character. Uh but she said some really outrageous things. Yeah, she had a goat. Okay. Um guys, this has been fun. I probably in light of the conversation that I just saw or the little clips I just saw will be doing a follow-up on this issue. I encourage you Where's the camera? There it is. I to go to Google Trends and do your own searches. When you do them, there's a download button. Download the Excel spreadsheet. Screen cap the search. When you screen cap the search make sure uh pull one up here and we'll Make sure when you screen cap the search, I'll show you what you need to capture. Make sure you capture this box up here that gives your search term. These boxes that give the parameters. And this right here, the interest over time. I'm not as worried about this stuff down here. This is the button right here I'm talking about. That's called download. You click that and it'll start downloading it to your browser or your download file depending on if you're on Mac or I encourage you to do this. And I encourage you to do it on other breaking stories. I think you'll be shocked at how disturbing some of the I do. I think you'll be shocked. Uh this has been fun. I went 40 minutes longer than I wanted to. Uh if you want to follow up, you're more than welcome to drop a comment. I encourage you. I'm told you're supposed to like and subscribe and click the notification so you know when I go live in the future. And uh in the meantime