Document text
COMMENTARY by Candace Owens — "EMERGENCY UPDATE IN THE CHARLIE KIRK CASE! | Ep 357" (published 2026-06-26).
This is third-party opinion/analysis ABOUT State of Utah v. Tyler James Robinson — NOT the court record. It is indexed for comparison against the primary transcripts/filings. Transcript is the YouTube auto-caption track (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2bZf4fic10) — verbatim ASR.
All right, you guys. Thank you for your patience. Obviously, we're a little early today because we were not supposed to be on air at all today. We don't really even have a show. I think you can sort of you'll start to realize this is more of an open investigation and we're going to be asking you a lot of questions and asking for your contributions because we are not an expert at everything um or really, I guess, any of the isolated things that we've been covering on this show. We have really been relying on people at home to help us figure out what happened to Charlie Kirk as we've put together timelines and pieces of information. Anyway, the reason I'm on air is because I spoke with Baron Coleman yesterday evening and he convinced me that some evidence that he knew that I had positively needed to be shared before we went away for 2 weeks. He gave me his reasons as to why it was so significant. And I rebuted about the timing. He obviously knew why we wanted to hold on to it, but I ultimately concluded that Baron Coleman was right. Now is the time to share it and to allow you guys to contribute before we go away. So, Okay. So I think obviously if you guys have been on this journey with us you understand what we have been doing here the strategy uh that we have had information that we have intentionally not released early that we have sat on and it's it's obvious we're we're we are playing chess here there are a lot of heavy players that are involved in Charlie Kirch's assassination and we needed to also just be able to separate who were the good guys and who were the bad guys right just Because Brian Harpole tells a lie, just because Frank Turk tells a lie, does not mean that every single person at Turning Point USA is implicated, right? Doesn't mean that any person at Turning Point USA is implicated. And I needed to fully assess the character of a lot of individuals that were around Charlie, people who I couldn't believe would betray Charlie. I wanted to see who would lie, who would cover up, who would get behind and host commentators who were friends of Charlie Kirks as they lied through their teeth to the public, tried to dissuade them from looking at certain evidence, telling them this is not possible, this is not true. But most importantly, getting people who were intimately involved on that day to tell their stories over and over and over again. people like Frank Turk, his car ride, which is told differently than it is by Brian Harpole, Their Memory, very short ride. Um, both of them telling stories that are not matching the shows that they are choosing to go on when they share it, the terms that they are using, conspiracy theorists, demonic. We needed to see who these people are. Anyway, like I said, I won't belver the point, but you get it. Recently, as you guys have seen, um we have been at long last after debunking many elements of this case with various things that we have presented to the public exclusively um convinced that Tyler Robinson did not murder Charlie Kirk. Was he an accessory to murder? Did he help out that day? Did he bury clothes at Dairy Queen? Certainly believe he did pick up clothes and bury them at Dairy Queen. I do not believe that he was on campus on top of Loi Center firing a shot at Charlie Kirk's neck. I can say that unequivocally. And you saw that we began to reintroduce a theory that John Bray had been working on for a very long time regarding an explosive. He was convinced from the very beginning, John Bray, that Charlie's microphone was rigged beneath him and that it subsequently shattered. We obviously had those car pics, had been working on that in the background, but what we did not do um was release all of the car photos. The purpose of that obviously is to see how audacious people will be. Will they lie? Will they lie and pretend that that is just I don't know, blood drops? No, that's just the that's crazy. That's not No, that's not Charlie's microphone. That's not the road microphone. That's something else. It's a pair of sunglasses and lie they did. Lie they did through their teeth. So we are going to show you additional photos. Um so I want to say right at the top here obviously viewer discretion is very much advised. Um we are not going to obviously we've already seen the other photos. It's going to be very much like that. It's not like you are going to see um Charlie's body here. But uh it will also show you some other details of the car that we can um speak to you about and tell you what's missing and why it does not register. Well, none of this registers obviously as right in our minds. What happened in this car does not match the stories that we have been told thus far. They're missing a big part. You don't just forget shattered glass, tempered glass from a microphone. How did that happen? Are we going to get a story about um a steel chest to go along with the steel neck? Are we to believe that someone did it with their bare hands? Why don't you try doing that? Why don't you try taking a road mic and breaking it in your bare hands? That's not possible. Nobody's story told anything about even lifting Charlie's shirt. How that microphone could have broken. And we are now going to put the full pressure on them to do just that. So, we're going to take you through a total of four additional photos and then we will u give you the closeup. Uh we can now say confidently that there is black tempered shatter glass all over the car where Charlie's chest region would have been according to the story that Frank Turk and um Brian Harpole told. So, here we go. Let's go through these slowly and we will start asking questions. So you again see in this photo the Uber bag with the blood on it in the back seat which I believe were was most likely used to wipe hands afterwards. Maybe perhaps getting out of the car. I think it's likely given where Frank Turk was sitting that that is him. But I do want to also point out this hanger to you. Another piece of information that we have had is that Charlie had his sports coat, his jacket if you will, you'll remember that he gave an interview which was quite mysterious in my opinion. Um, he went to Salt Lake City and he give gave an interview to restauranttology I think was the name of the company uh before he drove to Provo for this event. And so um he had a jacket that he did not wear. Obviously, he was in a t-shirt that stayed in the car. I can tell you that that jacket was returned to his security and made it back to Erica's apartment with blood still on it. It was not collected into evidence. That is an important piece uh for me to share with you because the question that it leaves is why why was that personal effect bloodied returned pretty immediately back to Erica's apartment in Arizona by the security. And again, the reason why I will say that that is an um an important detail is because the story that Frank Turk tells us is he changed in part because he didn't want Erica to see him bloodied. So, are we to believe that they did want to hand him a bloody jacket, hand her a bloody jacket of Charlie's? Like Frank's bloodied clothes would be more disturbing to her. We don't even know why they're bloody than Charlie's bloody clothes. That's where I'm guessing that that hanger is from. Okay, let's go to the second photo. And like I said, we will get closer on this. Um, we're going to talk about that piece of what looks to me to be cardboard. It could be something else. People in the medical field might recognize it. This might have something to do uh with Brian's story about, you know, taking out I don't think he said gauze, but packing the wound. H we, like I said, we'll get a lot closer. That bag behind looks to me like some sort of a medical bag. Maybe it's like binoculars, security bag, something on the go. In the comments, you guys can write to us. And uh this is, like I said, it's going to be an open episode. We want you to share with us anything that you recognize that you are seeing in that photos, but we could not identify what that brand was in the background. We've looked up different binocular brands and you know it not saying it's anything nefarious. We would like to identify what that item is. Like I said, we'll get closer. Next photo that we can show you is I don't know if you can see that clearly on your screen, but in the middle there is just full shattered tempered glass. There's no mistaking it. There is no question mark. That is what is in the middle of that car. We will get close on that as well so you can see it. Uh John Bray was telling the truth. And many many many people those who Charlie put on stage and whose careers Charlie built were lying to you. They were lying to you. They were calling this a conspiracy. It is not a conspiracy. is not a conspiracy at all that there is tempered shattered glass with white bits all over the center of this car and into the back seat. So, the stories that Frank and Brian Harpole have told to the public for some reason don't include this. We were told only his neck was being addressed. They got right to work. He got right to work. Frank was praying in the back seat. They had about 6 minutes on the clock weaving through traffic at 40, 60, 100 miles per an hour for a ride that Google Map says is 8 minutes away. And again, if you're able to hit those speeds, it means that you were not stuck Why is this detail missing? Let's go to the next photo. That is just um I'm once we get closer, you'll see. I'm just wondering what's under that mat. It looks to me like something that's foil uh potentially. And when we get super close on it, you'll be able to see the color of it. And I'm again, my guess there is that that's going to be something that was in the medical bag, but someone in the comments will recognize it. Let's get into these closer images. Okay, so this particular piece, um at first glance, I thought it could be the Uber bag. Um, but then I sort of also thought that it looks to me like it was a lot thicker. And I'm I'm referring to what looks like a piece of cardboard there. It's also separate from the bag, entirely separate from the the rest of the bag. And when we look at the bag, it doesn't look like it was ripped into small bits. The whole bags seem to be together. Um, and this it just stood out to me because it almost looked like it reminded me just visually what I feel like I'm looking at is like when you burn the edges of a cardboard. I was giving I was sort of referencing that when I was a kid and we didn't have lighters. I used to just like grab a box and and go to the gas stove and light that on fire and then light the candle and blow it out. And I that just is what it sort of looks like to me. Um, our team also posited that maybe it's just looks that way because it could just be heavy blood or by the way it could be um something that people in the medical community will recognize. You know, that's a standard, you know, paper brown color, so to speak, cardboard color, so to speak. So, it it obviously has blood on it. It was just it looks thicker to me. The way that it's sitting just looks thicker to me. But of course, I could be wrong. We're just allowing you guys to um weigh in on that. Like what that could be, why that would be separated from the bag, which while it is damaged, the two bags, the Uber bags are are together um and on the other side and not that drenched. They look more like again like somebody sort of wiped their hands very quickly because they didn't have paper towels. um not really having that drenching and none of the ends of the paper bag look like that. So, that's a point of curiosity for us. Um if we can get to that bag. Do we have the closeup of the bag? Yeah, that's as I think about as close as we can get to that black bag in the back there. And like I said, yeah, someone in the comments said shirt maybe. That's funny you say that because somebody literally just said that to us in our marketing department. Said that looks like a shirt. That's the first thing he said. But I'm wondering what a shirt that's I mean it's interesting but is that does it look necessarily like a white shirt? Again all open open source investigation. Want to share this with you so everybody is able to have this at home. And if anybody recognizes that in the back and Ash I'm sure you're monitoring the comments if we see anything. Somebody saying why is it burnt? I don't know if it is burnt. It my eyes just looking at it would describe that as a burnt cardboard piece. um thicker in in measure, so to speak, but it could also be something that is totally benign and looks that way for some specific reason. That makes sense. Um it's burnt car. Oh, someone is saying that the the back of that could be a taser. I thought that too. I tried to look up taser brands because that would be something that I thought for a second because I did remember that Rick Cutler had something on his back when he was running in there and I thought would make sense that he would just throw it off so that he could sit more properly but I that it didn't match what Rick Cutler had on him. So interesting people in the comments Skylar is saying is that it could be a a pulse for what' you say for O2. Okay, I like that that I we did think it could be more medical standard that that somebody has on them. I'd like to identify the brand. We've got every country in the world watching this. Somebody is going to recognize the specific brand so we can go check off and just sort to s begin to sort through everything that we're seeing. I I that was our mindset. We were going taser, binoculars, something security that someone had on them. Um so I like all of these things. Thank you guys so much. And um okay, let's get to did they burn the shirt? Interesting. I'm just reading your comments out loud. I don't know if a burnt shirt would look like that cuz doesn't that seem quite stiff, that piece? I don't know. The answer is I don't know what we're looking at. That's why I'm I'm opening this up to you guys because we're only here because of you guys. Aha. Did Someone in the comments. Oh, Ashley, figure that out. santa medical.com. Okay. Can you go back to the photo? There we go. Figure it out. Oh, go back again. Great. That's amazing. So, Ash, for like you you couldn't figure it out. Now all of a sudden we're live. You just trying to be a star right now. You're trying to be a star. You're trying to be a star. She's trying to have a breakout moment right now. She probably probably knew that for weeks. Ash. Good old Ash. Very good. Yes, that is santamedical.com and that is likely what that is. So I would assume then that that correlates with what Brian Harpole said. He did say I believe in the Paramount Tactical interview or maybe actually it was in the Shawn Ryan interview that he had that stuff but it wasn't relevant to what he was doing. So he may have had that because he was traveling with Charlie somewhere in the back seat. That that clocks with me. Okay. Um, let's move on to the foil piece that I feel like is going like Okay, so that's under the mat there. That's about as close as we can get to it. Um, obviously you get any closer, you start to lose the image. Just I feel like that's going to have something to do with the gauze or like the heistic packing. I don't but I feel like some medical person like, "Oh yeah, that's what it looks like on the inside. There's like a foil. I don't know something." I I actually was going to go buy out and buy some of the stuff that he said that he had. Maybe it's wrapped in something. Um maybe it's a a sheet that you put people on. And in case it's sort of losing this image as we're live right now, I want you guys to know that it's almost coppery is what it looks like. It there definitely has I would say like a coppery foil look to it. as all of us are looking at that this is not obviously a clean enough image for us to you know know up from down but I that's the best that we have that we had a question for you guys and um that looks into look into how this can very well be a component of the charge we did have some people say Matt to us that we had had asked for their opinion I'm assuming you're referring to that little cardboard piece that it could be a part of the shape charge but as you guys know I don't know anything about that stuff so I would have to do some serious research to understand that. But I yeah, I'm just I I I have a lot of questions about that. Um, okay, let's go to the next closeup of so we can now say officially beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are looking at glass. Okay, it's glass. It just is black glass, tempered glass on all over the car. Uh especially this is now as you saw in between the two captain chairs right about where if they were taking it off of Charlie's shirt or body. We would expect to see that uh I had whipped up a scenario where rather than providing CPR they may have uh Frank may have been doing which got blood in his hands was trying to get Charlie's shirt off of him because I do not believe for a single second that that scene took place at the hospital and this this is just undeniable now. This is undeniable. So find your commentators who called it a conspiracy and laughed now and said this could never well this never these are the worst people many of them across the events the many events Charlie had put on stage and given a spotlight by Charlie Kirk and they are now full-time trying to convince you that you shouldn't believe your own eyes and you should trust the feds. I know vengeance does not belong to me, but I have to tell you it is really hard for me to curb the frustration, the anger, the disappointment, and equal parts rage that I feel toward those people. Here it is. Any questions about whether that's tempered glass? Now, you can say you can't necessarily We all agree it's glass, but you It's definitely definitively not the car glass. Um, but you could say, "Okay, let's arrive at this point. We'll say I agree. Charlie's road microphone is shouted on the car, but does it mean that it was rigged?" That's my devil's advocate. Doesn't mean that it was rigged. Okay. So, tell us how it was broken in the car. You go be the conspiracy theorist cuz that's what you're going to have to do. Your your stories are going to have to get dumber and dumber. And while you're at it, could you also tell us why it is that despite telling what happened in that car many times? Oh, didn't realize my kids were all in the back seat. They heard everything. Frank's praying. We're speeding. We're weaving through traffic. I'm just packing that wound. Packing Nobody mentioned this at all. By the way, one of the immediate questions I had was, "Well, why didn't we see as they were carrying it to the car, why as they were carrying Charlie to the car, why didn't we see some of that fall down?" I had no idea that this is sticky glass that there's an adhesive that is attached to it. Like, think about when you put a screen on your phone, it has a it literally, if you look it up, tempered glass phone, it has it's an adhesive, so it actually sticks everywhere. It sticks all once it's it's on a fabric it sticks. I I was interested going okay well like and there is some that actually fell in front of Charlie and John Bray's getting me those photos uh when it there was an immediate impact like that pieces that flew. And you know what it does? It actually answers a question that I've had for a very long time and we are declining to show the photo because it's so graphic of why they held Charlie, and forgive my language, why they held Charlie like they were a bunch of as they carried him to the car. Nobody was focused on securing his neck. His neck was literally flopping. Okay, we have those images. The audacity of Brian Harpole to sue me over his incompetence. You can't call me incompetent. Watch the way Charlie is carried to the car. Case closed. Okay. His neck is literally flopping and it seems like they're more concerned with holding him here. Again, we didn't have time to edit the photos in a place that I felt would have been comfortable, but Charlie head is literally flopping and it's like they're more concerned with his chest. They don't care about his legs. They they don't get it's like they're concerned with his shirt almost like his shirt is actually almost it's coming up. You can see his torso. You know what I think I think is it's plausible. It might not be right, but it's plausible is if you had a bunch of tempered glass that was sticking to him as a fabric, you would bunch up that shirt like it was a purse to make sure it wasn't seen by the public. Your focus would be actually Charlie's shirt. And if you go back, there is no way that that many men could not hold Charlie flat and secure his neck properly as they got him into the car. That does not make sense, you know. That does not make sense. Big bad security. Million dollars of years being spent on on the security apparatus and you guys can't hold them flat. And this why is his shirt up at all? because I think you're scooping something in there. Something's there That's an opinion, not a fact. But I'm going to think while it's still legal to do so, and it's barely legal to do so. So, we can um totally dismiss what everybody has told you about this theory not having legs because now they need to tell us how it happened. Are they going to say more miracles, more um Judeo-Christian slop miracles that took place that day? Are we maybe Andrew will issue a tweet? Maybe Erica will say that he went rogue. I I think Andrew Kovette might go rogue again today and he's going to say, "We called and we asked and it was a it was a miracle." Not only, you see, not only did Charlie's neck stop 3,000 lbs of energy coming at him, ricochet off of the back of his spine, but it also moved forward and shattered his mic, which was placed here. I don't know if he's got a steel neck. I'd assume he has a steel rib cage or something. and he probably saved a lot of people. If that mic hadn't shattered, um Charlie Kirk would have save Charlie Kirk would not have saved more people that day because the the bullet was doing magical things. I think that's what we can expect because I've run this with Baron. I've run it with Tim. Like give me the other side. We all have to acknowledge that this is the road, Mike. How did it break? Maybe maybe it was Frank through the power of prayer. They're going to give us this slop because that's what it is. They're serving up Christian slop. They think we are stupid and we are easily manipulated and that all we have to hear is Lord them on stage talking about the Lord. Dana sounding like she's channeling demons on stage talking about the widow and we're all just going to get in line because we're so dumb. So maybe that is going to be their next move. They're going to say Frank Turk through the power of prayer, this secondary miracle happened in the car and the mic just shattered. Or maybe it was when he was doing CPR. He just had an incredible hand and that was when he attempted it. He forgot to mention that he accidentally and then it shattered. Even though that'd be impossible to do and impossible for him to illustrate, you have to understand these were Your move, Turning Point USA, your move. Your your move like Nef Your Charlie's real friends to make sense of how his microphone Take a brief break and um yeah, we'll just be right back. All right, you guys. Our great nation turned 250 this year. represent two and a half centuries of possibility, growth, and some of the greatest minds in human history. What will the next 250 years look like? The next generation of Americans could be the most impactful. But first, they have to be given their chance at life. That's why I'm making this critical request today. Give a special gift of $250 to Preborn to honor our country's milestone anniversary and to celebrate our great future ahead. Your gift will help provide eight ultrasounds. Pre-born is helping today's mothers choose life by providing these free ultrasounds so that they can meet their baby for the first time. Help new mothers realize that they can give their baby life and that motherhood is possible. Celebrate America's birthday with a $250 gift to Preborn today. To donate, simply dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. Again, that's pound250 baby or visit pre-born.com/candis. Again, that's pre-born.com/candis. I also want to tell you guys about the wellness company because right now Americans love sushi. Over the last two decades, raw fish consumption has exploded. Sushi bars are everywhere. Grocery stores and gas stations sell it, and millions of people now eat raw fish weekly. But there is a hidden risk most people are not aware of. Parasites. Salmon is one of the most popular fish worldwide, but it naturally contains more than 70 parasites. Most are tiny and nearly impossible to see, and they are making their way into the human body. Once inside, parasites can hide for years while frequently laying eggs before any symptoms appear. This is why many physicians are raising awareness about parasite exposure. Dr. Peter McCulla recommends doing a parasite cleanse at least once a year as preventative measure. The wellness company offers a hard to access prescription parasite cleanse. The USA compounded ivormectin and bendazol. You can now get a more budget friendly 45 capsule option that costs $250 less, giving you two 21day parasite cleanse cycles. Same formula as the original, just a smaller quantity. So head to twwc.alth/candace and use code candace at checkout to save $52. Plus, you'll get free shipping. Again, that's twwc.althcandis USA residents only. Um, we're getting some comments here, so I will uh get offer some of the suggestions that you guys are offering. As someone uh said that that piece of foil under the map could be like a hypothermia medical emergency blanket. I could definitely see that that I do know remember what those look like and that tracks with what we saw with our eyes and people are getting cold. They didn't mention it, but maybe they had it. Maybe he had it in his I don't know, his kit. I mean, there would have been a lot he'd be turning into Mary Poppins at that point, but he could have had it in the car um because he was traveling with Charlie. So, that is an option uh for sure. I don't know that we'll ever be able to get a clear answer on that because they've not told us really what went down in that car. Um Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And I'm sure they also have it in that like more color. Yeah. Different colors and stuff like that. Definitely applausibility. Yeah, there you go. Could be something like that. that's beneath that. Um, I am in the process of securing more photos and there is some other stuff that we we know uh we've been watching this play out and trust me it has taken a lot of patience a lot of patience to know that the first to speak is not going to win this. You know, it's not the conspiracy is too big to try to win this by having a bunch of commentators come out and spin stories and you you just have to be slow and allow them to walk themselves into a trap and that's what we have done here. Um, the broader question of course is what what does this mean for Turning Point USA? What does this mean for Turning Point USA? Andrew Kovat, the spokesperson. This would require a response. Andrew, this would be a nice The public wants to know why or how it shattered and also why and how Frank and Brian Harple seem to have forgotten about that in their many retellings of what took place in that car across multiple interviews. Why nobody mentioned this? Where is Charlie Shirt? Andrew Kovette, you're the spokesperson of Turning Point USA. Where is Charlie's To the people that are working at at Turning Point USA. Any of this strike you was odd. Do you really think that by putting stickers on the ground that say for Charlie? You guys are for Charlie. We have t-shirts that says for Charlie. Really? You're for Charlie? I wonder about that. I wonder about so many people at that organization and I I have to say that the response to this will give me the answer. It will furnish the answer because you can only play stupid and make excuses for so long before you are simply siding with plain evil. Satanic evil to be clear. But what of Mikey McCoy here? I'll tell you my perspective with Mikey McCoy. I know there's a clip going around and I told you guys from the very beginning that one of the things I was told about Mikey in the hospital was that they were lying. If you go back and watch our episodes, I said really early on that them saying that Mikey was amazing. Erica the first to say it at the podium. He was amazing. He snapped into action. That was patently untrue. Mikey was the most emotionally impacted. He did not have it together. And a clip went around showing Mikey. I don't know if you can guys can pull it. um of him when they were carrying Charlie's casket out of the hospital and you catch in the background Mikey looks like he's physically sick. This clip, I don't know when it came out. It recently went viral, but I've been telling you the whole time that Mikey that was in the background that was physically sick is what I was told from the very beginning. Mikey was impacted by this in a way that leads me to believe that Mikey did not know that Charlie was going to die on that day. Do I think Mikey knew something was going to happen with the speed that he Do I think that Mikey McCoy was prepared for Charlie to die that day? No. I do not believe that. I don't believe that. Not with that reaction. Not with what I was told. Mikey had raw emotion at the hospital. Of all of them, Mikey was the most upset. And yet, they then all came out and tried to spin a tail that he just like jumped into adrenaline action and was calling the shots. And it's obviously not true. He couldn't even hold the casket. He was holding his stomach like he was like he was going to become ill. He was ill. Mikey had a soul. Does he still have one now? Are like the meetings with Doug Degrroot talking about investment and what you're going to do. Is that what they're pumping Mikey with right now? Hey Mikey, you're going to be the next Charlie. You're going to you're going to make we're going to make so much money. Here's the video right here we're showing you. Look at Mikey right there. The black behind. Look at him. That was Mikey at the hospital. I was told not an active participant calling the shots and making things happen. And I think that they pumped him with that rhetoric and those names and adjectives because they were reassuring him in some way. What now? Pastor Frank Turk. Man, I'd love to watch him proathize right now. I'm Sign me up. You're at a church. He's got the mic. What if him? Can you explain it, Frank? You've said a lot about me. In fact, I received an email last that you guys knew I was going to be a problem from the beginning. Before I even knew that we were not on the same side, you guys knew we wouldn't be. That's stunning to me. Someone sent me a photo in Arlington um that they had made a poster uh at Charlie's memorial site, one of the many around the country, and they had wrote on the poster, "Don't worry, your big sister can figure out what happened." And the Turning Point staff removed the poster, sent me the photos and everything. I don't have it for you today because we weren't planning on doing a show. And they saw them whispering and they removed the poster. Yeah. They knew from the beginning that I was not going to get in line with this and good on them. They were proven correct. That's the smartest um inclination they've had since the beginning of this thing. I would say, of course, the biggest question is what's that CEO and chairman going to say? Erica Kirk, what you going to do, Erica? Stage another scene of you crying while you operate behind the scenes, try to take people down, sending out people like you're a queen for them to sacrifice themselves for you, telling lies, trying to make all of the things that don't make any sense somehow register as true. How's our emotional asset doing today? That's a smile. I I just could not put on following my husband's public assassination. Haven't seen her that happy really since. I I think the happiest we ever saw Erica was when she walked out to that stadium on September 21st and people whole world because she thought she had it made. She's she's been struggling to come up for air since. And I want to be very clear. It is the most important thing to me that no harm comes to Erica. The most important thing. The message. Oh, investigating this. She's getting death threats. No. Let's be very clear on my intention in this investigation. I want Erica to outlive everyone. Death is easy. Actually, death is easy. Living a long life when everybody knows who and what you are and what you are a part of and what you did. We're going to take a quick break because this is not meant to be a long episode and then I will get into some of your comments. All right, you guys. It's no secret that right now everything feels so much more expensive. If those daily essentials are adding up on your credit card, you should know that those double-digit interest rates are quietly draining your bank account. If that debt is starting to feel heavy for you, you should know that you are not alone. And if you're a homeowner, you've maybe looked at your mortgage rate and thought, "Okay, but I can't touch that." But with American Financing's smart equity loan, you don't have to. It allows you to wipe out high interest debt and lower your monthly overhead while keeping your primary mortgage intact. It's a surgical strike against debt. Unlike a fluctuating heliloc, the smart equity loan is a fixed rate loan, giving you a predictable monthly payment. At American Financing, there are never any upfront fees to find out what you qualify for. So talk to a salarybased consultant today. Experts who are paid to help you save, not to sell you more than you need. There are no upfront fees to find out if you qualify. So call 8007951210. Again, that's 8007951210 or visit americanfinancing.net/owens. Again, that's americanfinancing.net/owens. I also want to remind you guys about Nimi Skincare because Nimi makes the best tallow skincare products that I've ever used. Their tallow comes from grass-fed, grass-finished cattle that are raised on a Montana farm. In a world where so many companies hide where their ingredients are coming from, that actually really matters. Everyone seems to be talking about tallow these days, but not all tallow is created equally. Nimi has focused on sourcing exceptional ingredients and creating products that people genuinely love to use. That's why I've been using Nimi's Sunshine Tallow Cream and their buzz and tallow balm. Their sunshine tallow cream has become one of Nimi's most popular products because it's rich, nourishing, made with tallow, aloe vera, avocado oil, and shea butter to deeply moisturize the skin while still feeling lightweight and comfortable. It leaves your skin feeling soft, hydrated, and healthy looking without feeling greasy. When my skin needs a little extra support, I reach for the Buzz and Tallow Balm because it's a richer formula that helps lock in moisture and leaves skin feeling deeply nourished and cared for. What I appreciate most is that these products are rooted in simplicity. Highquality ingredients, American sourcing, American manufacturing, and skincare that simply works. So, if you've been curious about Talos Skincare, now is a perfect time to try it. Visit nimiskare.com to save an additional 10% off your order using promo code candace 10. That's neimiskare.com. Promo code candace 10. You know, it's like um for those of you who watch the Game of Thrones series, it's it's it's like the Red Wedding, you know, when it should have been like a day of happiness and Charlie lost his wife and you go, I mean, lost his life and Yeah. And and then you just go, why? How could so much evil happened at something that was supposed to be a happy event? And I don't know. I just think that the best laid plans, you know, people do these sorts of things to commit this kind of evil because they think they're going to take over an empire. That's it. They had to they wanted to take over Turning Point USA. That's what I think anyway. Um, but I hope you guys realize now you won't. None of you will have it. None of you will have it. The whole world knows that the story you're trying to spin, despite the celebrity power, political power, the military power, everyone knows it's horshit. You do, too. Did you really think Blake Nef, Graham Allen, and Paramount not so tactical? We're going to delude the public into the absurd story that you tried to spin. Doesn't work like that. You know, he tried to direct Charlie's energy. It was too big for that. His energy went exactly where he would have wanted it to go. The entire world waking up to true evil. That's it. There it is. That's for Charlie. Nobody need a sticker to make that happen. No one needed a t-shirt. They just needed truth, which is what he committed himself to. And there is maybe the smallest amount of comfort in knowing that he consciously knew what he was doing. He knew he was going to die and he chose to do it anyway. Like he he knew that his death would matter. So none of you are going to have it. Just wanted to let you know that. Anyway, I also wanted to show you very quickly this uh clip because it's crazy of some this was going viral as well. You know, Erica, Erica and God always at the right moments. Charlie had shared something interesting. We covered Butler, how there seems to be some possible thread here, similar things going on. Did you guys know that the butler shoot happened on a Saturday? On Saturdays, Charlie turned his phone off and yeah, on that particular Saturday, he didn't because Erica, I don't know, had another one of these visions from God. Take a listen to what Charlie shared. Tell us about uh how do you find out about uh this happening? I keep asking everybody this. Tell us where your initial reaction was that night. >> It was a really strange day. Uh I usually turn my phone off on Saturdays. I honor the Shabbat >> and I'm not Jewish, but I think it's important that we Christians do. And yet I had my phone on because I was trying to help make JD Vance the vice president of the United States. Uh so had some calls to make. Let's just put it that way. >> We'll put it that way. And so my phone was on and Erica, my wife, was like, "Yeah, I think God wants you to have your phone on today." I was like, "Okay, sure." So we went down to our like our our complex has this big gym and I had my daughter in my arms and I just like turned to the television. >> Come out. That's it. >> And cuz I saw >> that's it. You can It's That's it. >> How strange. Gosh, he's just so plugged in this way. God wants your phone on. And wow, he probably was like, "My wife, my wife, she really just is so godly." Yeah, you should ask her who in her phone is saved as God in her as a contact. Is it BB and Yahoo? I mean, I'm just I I do think maybe God told her to have your phone on that day. I just don't know who she saved in her and her phone It's all so despicable. It's all so despicable. You cannot make it. It just It takes so much out of me to understand to comprehend what these people, not did to him, are currently doing to him. They can't stop. They can't stop. They can't just stop and go, you know what? I actually don't want to burn in hell for an eternity. And is there still a window of opportunity for people who are in there who Yeah. Do I know more stuff? Yes, of course I do. I'm an idiot. Why is it can't just drop everything she has in one episode? Oh, yeah. I love checkers. Why does she just say everything so we can just all commute and change our stories and make everything fit and then stick to it? You guys think I'm an idiot? Do you think I'm an idiot? Do you really think I'm going to be tempted by Paramount not so tactical? I just I'm just amazed at the stupidity the people they're sending out. We deserve better SCOPS. We really deserve better SCOPS. People with a higher IQ. Anyway, um top comment from yesterday's episode from Coopro. Obviously, we are watching the greatest investigative journalist of our time. You're watching a mirror. It's it's you guys at home, people that are invested in sending tips and you have a very small hardworking team that is ready to read through everything and to do the work because there was a real friendship. Charlie Charlie had a friend in me. He did. Uh we had great times and he should he should be here raising his kids. I don't know what else to say. Like it's s such a weird thing to watch them try to change everything that he stood for. Lie to us about who his friends are, who his friends were. The time like I mean we had really great times. We had just so much laughter, so much fun, so much exhaustion, so many Starbucks coffees. Um he always texted, "Can you go down and get a latte? Can you go down and get a latte?" 5:00 a.m. Like I said to you guys, the early morning Walmart stuff when your suitcase didn't go through. a broken suitcase. Got to go through the airport. Got to find a cheap one. Do I look good in these sunglasses? I'm going down to the southern border. Like, there's just He had so much personality and so much energy and a vision. You can't kill the visionary and replace us with the occult. Replace with the occult. That's what That's what you guys registered to the public as a bunch of oultists. It's dark. Maybe you can offer money to idiots to take your money who want to sell their soul to the devil who will work for you and run around and be loyal to you for those reasons, but you know, they've got to everyone has to make their own deals in life. Mattiey's comment is, "What's always disturbed me is how calm all of Charlie's friends were giving interviews in the first few days after his death. There were no tears, no shaky voices, nothing. They gave interviews about what should have been the most traumatic thing they've ever witnessed, like they were presenting the morning traffic report. Charlie deserved better. I will say I agree with you how I was stunned by how quickly they moved toward acceptance. Like I did not accept it. I don't accept it. You know, I now accept he's dead. He's not coming back. I had to close that, you know, whatever mental derangement I went through for as I was grieving that I wanted to believe that he was in like witness protection in like New Zealand or something. Like I just needed to find a pocket of the internet that made me think he was still alive. I had to get to that part of acceptance. Charlie's not coming back. You're never going to be able to talk to him on this earth. Um I had to swallow that. And that that took me until Q1 of this year. These people were on the news like, "Yeah, it's legacy. This is what he wants and we ought let's go forward. It's for him. To be morbid. Husband's dead. Turning point 2.0 know is here and we sold a lot of hats and he's in the office. His spirit's in the office. Get Comments. Um, coming in right now. Go. Max writes, "I am thankful each and every day that you use your platform for truth. Charlie was and is blessed to have had a friend like you. We should all hope for a friend like you. May you and your family be protected always. We love you. Keep going, Max. We're always protected in truth. All of us all around the world. We are. And I think the partnership of this to see, like I said, every side come together um and recognize the evil that was done here and be determined to take risks in their personal lives to get information to me. Um trusting me with that information, trusting that I will protect them. This it's all of you. I mean, people in Romania, there was actually a I actually wanted to read this comment. I got to I'm going to grab my phone cuz it you know Americans we've been so asleep at the wheel of the evil that our military partakes in. And I've seen so many comments from you guys in former Yugoslavia in different countries about growing up and your parents keeping you safe. This person actually wrote yesterday, I'm from the Balkans and I grew up there in the '9s. We were young kids and always knew never to talk to anyone that we do not know, especially UNICEF or Americans. The things that are coming out now, our parents knew 30 years ago and they kept us on high alert. It has come out recently and is public knowledge now how for many many many years women who were pregnant would go into the hospital to give birth. The fathers were never allowed in the birthing suite. So it was the mother alone. The baby was then taken away for quote unquote testing by the doctors only to tell the mother a few hours later that her baby did not make it. They never got to see their dead baby, just that it didn't survive is what they were told. Some of these children were found many years later were part of a trafficking ring. That's what goes on in Eastern Europe, guys. I don't think everybody's going to Romania to help orphans. I just don't I don't I don't think these people have those kinds of hearts, especially when I watch how much they've lied to us in the public. I I believe this user. ve never met this person in my life and I think they have more truth in them than any of the people who have been handed a mic at turning point since Charlie's passing. I don't know. I'm a vibe person. Next comment is from Susie Hill. Susie writes, "Justice for sweet Charlie. You go get them Candace. Our moned modernday S Jonavar. Stavar is behind me. Actually, Gaba is a wonderful gift from a dear friend in Italy at my confirmation. Um, so and obviously you guys know I chose St. Joan for my confirmation. Joe Philly writes, Phyisetti writes, "I'm convinced that what they were doing on the ground behind the table looking like they were handing stuff off to each other. They were trying to get all the main pieces off the ground and Charlie realized get him to the car to get the rest." I I am now revisiting that footage and we are going to spend time looking at that as well as we develop the witness tree because I think John Bray's theory has infinitely more evidence than the story that we have been told by the prosecution, by the FBI, and by the Turning Point USA representatives. John Bray has done tremendous work. I know you guys want me to have him on the show. I promise I will when I get back from break. Vicky Blair writes, "I don't know if anyone has said this already, but it's nearly impossible to drive 60, 80, 100 miles and still have the car door open. It seems that it would have cut off Charlie's legs to me." Yeah. You know, I think my um Have they ever released and I I need to look into this? I could behind. I I know Baron has done so many episodes uh and I'm planning on catching up on them, but I I know that they said, or rather Brian Harpole said that they caught a tail. They were going so fast and so there were police behind them and the police had reported on the scanner that they saw like it looked like a struggle in the car which could have just been because you are they're physically seeing Rick. They said the car door was open. So we know that that's true and like Rick was holding Brian. So that would have looked like somebody was struggling and if you're a cop that's what you would perhaps describe it as. Um, but um I think that that should probably help us map the directions they took because I I heard the grape vine they did not even take the highway which was right there and they instead went on back roads and so yeah those those speeds do seem impossible but you guys are forgetting it's a miracle. Everything that happened that day was just, you know, a Christian miracle being spun by none other than Erica France. Vicky Blair writes, "Oh, sorry. I just read that." Um, Jay Beam writes, "This will go down in this is the literal only good use of the internet." Oh, I get it. This will go down as the literal only good use of the internet and live streaming. Period. 100% Israel incentivized a select few to take over TPUSA uh to kill Charlie and to get him out of the way. It's a sense that we all have. But I guess they think they can sue the sense out of us. They can sue the senses out of us. The president of United States. No one comes for the global ring. No one comes for the kings and queens. I'm I am if you have not heard times most vile person of the year. You know, there's a lot of people I would put ahead of me on the list. Maybe Jeffrey Epstein even. Am I crazy? If you're going to be the president of United States and you're going to call someone the most vile person of the year and your options are sitting before you, I mean, that would even be a great time to sell that Tyler Robinson did it. You could say Tyler Robinson. You could say Jeffrey Epstein. No, he said Candace Owens. Candace Owens is the most vile person of the year. Huh? And just like that, a mirror is lifted up, right? You see yourself in that Trump. What about the Trump family? No, I think if I'm Andrew Kov, I placed dumb. I wasn't in the car. If I'm Mikey, I wasn't in the car. I didn't know. I didn't had no idea. No one told us that. We had no idea that that's what happened. I guess they could play it off that way, but now you do know. You kind of have to cover it on his show with his name. It's called the Charlie Kirk Surely you're going to cover it, right? And you guys could then just get answers from Ter cuz he's right there. You guys are all in the same building, the Charlie Kirk building, the Fineberg building. You just turn right around and say, "Hey, did you know this when you guys were cleaning up that like this was never recovered?" I think they could get some quick answers for us. Gratefully, the spokesperson, we don't have to imagine we use any conspiracies anymore. They're gonna have a solid story for how that mic shattered in the car. Um, Zamit writes, "You can't change the world, but you can change your mind." Absolutely. Uh, Auntie Lish writes, "Mikey knew Candace. He didn't look. He walked away because he knew he couldn't look at his friend die. That is not a normal reflex to an unexpected bang. He would have looked and reacted, not walked away. He knew he just had no power to stop it. Is it possible he thought that he it was going to be like a staged thing or something? And that's then he found out he died and it was like something went wrong. I don't know. I I from the beginning I have not sensed that Mikey is a purely evil person. I don't get that from him. I think his father is I don't get that from Mikey McCoy though. I I get someone who was born into I he has an arranged marriage. That's weird. Bolevik princess wife. I don't know. I don't I don't sense Mikey McCoy as being like the rest of them. I think there's just a little shred that still exists in him of goodness. And who knows? I will tell you that we will have no doubt who the good guys are and who the bad guys are um by the time we're done with this stuff because there's a lot more information that we have had. But we wait for them all to lie on the record repeatedly because we even need to know who like the commentators are that betrayed Charlie. Some people I could never look in the face. How dare you? How dare you? Who are you? Who raised you? Money. That's it. Your soul. Your whole soul. Deal with the devil. Satan comes in. He's like, "Hey, money, riches, jewelry, plastic surgery. You can have lips done. You can have two properties. You can vacay down in Miami. All you have to do is let Charlie Kirk die and play your audience like they're dumb when it's so obvious that they're being told lies. And that's it. You're like, "Yeah, cool. Hell eternity. That's great. As long as I can get that beach house in Miami. Life's a blip, people. This ain't it. This ain't it. You can't take it with you when you go." Anyway, I think yesterday that I said to you that accidentally said that we wouldn't be back until August 13th. That was not accurate. I obviously um I thought two weeks was August 13th. It's actually July 13th. So, we will be off air until July 13th and this surprise show I'm trying to work through book club. So, I might just do it from Spain this weekend. Um and yeah, anyway, thank you guys for being on this journey. It's been a heavy one and thank you Baron for telling me that this was the right time to do this. I think you are totally right. And I just want to say thank you to just all of the YouTubers like everyone. Coach Colin, I I could never say enough names. Uh Ni, Lionel Nation, your guys. I thought I was going to be doing this investigation with Charlie's friends, like the people who were his friends. And I had said to Lionel yesterday that you guys really got me through it when it was really tough to process the fact that these weren't his friends and that I was going to be fighting them. So, I just want to let you guys know like all of the smaller YouTube accounts like I see your stuff. I see your videos, the people like John Bray, the people who are curious, who have sent in little details, this is all you. Like this I have a platform. This is not even my platform. like I will have this platform for however long God wills it. But this investigation like belongs to all of us. And I just wanted to say that like you have no idea how patient you guys have been with me with like the emotionality of dealing with it and sharing the information, letting me know that there was a band of goodness of people who never knew each other that just dug in and didn't let it go. you know, Ian, Carol. I mean, there's I I could go on and on of the people that I am just so grateful of and how everyone has just worked so seamlessly together. And I see you guys even in the comments like when I was just like, how can I take on this um behemoth, you know, this monroity? I feel like I feel so small. And of course, it's David and Goliath, I guess, would be the right thing to say. like it to really realize that like I'm am I really going to have to do this alone and not with all of the people who Charlie helped to propagate. That was a tough realization. And um there was a particular moment in Wyoming where I consciously made the decision that I was going to do it. like I was in deep prayer and meditation and I was just writing a like an open letter to Charlie which maybe one day I'll read when this is all over but um just handwriting it and I um then just sat there with my eyes closed for a bit and really considered what this would mean because I I saw it shaping and how much it would put my life at risk and put my family's life at risk and how hard it was going to be and I looked I I kid you not, I opened my eyes and at the exact moment a bald eagle just flew like it just so close to my head and um I just thought it was a sign. I just went like, you know what? I feel like if that's the ultimate symbol of freedom, then maybe this does this investigation does depend upon our freedom. like this is we're getting really close to something very darken and not just this country as we have seen globally globally in the west in particular um and our involvement across the east globally there is something really dark I don't know what's going on with these data centers I don't know what's going on with Utah I don't know why they're so tied to Romania the pieces are coming together obviously um but we're close to it and I think we all feel it and there's an urgency here and I do think that Charlie died to sort of wake up the world to that urgency as he said. Um, so I just wanted to just thank all of you guys because you were you're the reason that I like we just keep pushing. Um, so thank you. I can't say thank you enough. Um, you know what to do. If you guys want to compete uh continue to support us, send us emails [email protected]. More tips at canennison.com. If you know something, say something. It's that simple. You don't need to put your name on it. You don't I have spoken through people how I would deliver the information. I protect people obviously don't want any person to lose their jobs. I have not had that situation happen. Um and it's yeah there's just been so much remarkable bravery and you could be that person. There's secrets make you sick. They do. Secrets make you sick and it's not worth selling your soul to the devil to stay quiet and support this kind of evil on this scale. More tips at kennacewins.com. tips at candace.com. kennacewowens.com. And um our website obviously is just kennacewins.com. This day went a lot different than I thought it was going to be. We will email you guys with more updates regarding the book club. See you guys