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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE
FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN AND
FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
JEFFREY EPSTEIN
Plaintiff,
v.
SCOTT ROTHSTEIN,
individually,
BRADLEY J. EDWARDS,
individually, and L.M.,
individually,
Defendants. Complex Litigation, Fla. R. Civ.
Pro.1201
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PLAINTIFF'S NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF INTERROGATORIES
DIRECTED TO DEFENDANT BRADLEY J. EDWARDS
Plaintiff, Jeffrey Epstein, (hereinafter "Mr. Epstein"), by and through his
undersigned attorneys hereby files this Notice of Serving First Set of Interrogatories
Directed to Defendant Bradley J. Edwards (hereinafter "Edwards"), pursuant to Rule
1.340, Florida Rules of Civil Procedure, and request the Defendant to answer said
interrogatories in writing within thirty (30) days from date of service hereof.
Certificate of Service
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true copy of the foregoing was sent by fax and U.S.
Mail to the following addressees
MARC S. NURIK, ESQ.
Law Offices of Marc S. Nurik
One East Broward Boulevard
Suite 700
Fort L uderdale, FL 33301 on this 5th day of April , 2010:
Gary M. Farmer, Jr., Esq.
Farmer, Jaffe, Weissing, Edwards, Fistos
& Lehrman, PL
425 N. Andrews Avenue, Suite 2
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
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Fax
Attorneys&Defendant Scott Rothstein
Jack Scarola, Esq.
Searcy Denney Scarola Barnhart
Shipley, P.A
2139 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd.
West Palm Beach, FL 33409
686-6300
383-9424 F
Attorneys for Defendant Bradley Edwards Fax
Attorneys for Defendant, L.M.
Jack Alan Goldberger, Esq.
& Atterbury Goldberger & Weiss, P.A
250 Australian Avenue South
Suite 1400
West FL 33401-5012
Fax:
Co-Counse for Jeffrey Epstein •
BURMAN, CRITTON, LUTTIER & COLEMAN, LLP
303 Banyan Boulevard
Suite 400
FL 33401
Favi
By:
Robert . Critton, Jr.
Florida ar #224162
Michae J. Pike
Florida Bar #617296
(Counsel for Defendant Jeffrey Epstein)
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PLAINTIFF'S FIRST SET OF INTERROGATORIES
DIRECTED TO DEFENDANT BRADLEY J. EDWARDS
1. As to paragraph 12 of your Counterclaim, state the following in detail:
a) Identify specifically all damages which you claim you have
suffered to your reputation. Include in your response, how your reputation
has been damaged, to whom (person or entity) your reputation has been
damaged, any loss of income which you claim as a result of the current
lawsuit against you and how you calculate that loss.
b) Identify in detail how the lawsuit filed against you has
interfered in any professional relationships. Identify in your answer all
professional relationships which have in any way been negatively
impacted or lost or compromised as a result of this lawsuit. Identify the
name and address of the individual and/or entity with whom you have the
professional relationship, how it has been affected and identify any
monetary damage which you sustained.
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c) Identify by date the exact amount of time (and specify how
your time was spent) that has been diverted from your professional
responsibilities.
2. (a) Identify all costs and/or fees you have incurred (to whom and under
what circumstances) for the defense of the Epstein claim as set forth in paragraph 12 of
your Counterclaim.
(b) State whether you have a written or oral fee agreement with Searcy
Denney and the terms of same. Include amount of money paid to date and if you paid a
retainer.
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3. During the time you were associated with Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler,
P.A. ("RRA"), state the following:
a) Identify by person and date any person who performed any
searches of trash at 358 El Brill° Way, Palm Beach, Florida which is
alleged to be the home of Mr. Epstein which were authorized by you or
which you learned had taken place, if not authorized by you. If not
authorized by you, identify who did authorize it?
b) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who conducted wire taps or
"bugging" on any telephones which purported to be from the home of Mr.
Epstein. Include who authorized the wire taps and dates it took place.
c) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who conducted wire taps or
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"bugging" on any telephones which are purported to be from the attorneys
for Mr. Epstein including but not limited to: Roy Black, Alan Dershowitz or
Jack Goldberger. Include who authorized the wire taps and dates it took
place.
d) Identify all intercepted phone conversations authorized by
RRA including but not limited to any one of its attorneys or investigators or
anyone retained by or working for RRA or its attorneys or investigators
and/or RRA investigators; identify the date, the source of the call, who
conducted the intercepted telephone conversations and whether a tape
and/or transcript exist of such conversations.
e) Identify all intercepted cell phone conversations authorized
by RRA Including but not limited to any one of its attorneys or investigators
or anyone retained by or working for RRA or its attorneys or investigators
and/or RRA investigators; identify the date, the source of the call, who
conducted the intercepted cell phone conversations and whether a tape
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and/or transcript exist of such conversations.
f) Identify all Individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who intercepted or acquired
electronic mail (e-mails) to and from the home of Mr. Epstein. Include who
authorized the interception and acquisition and dates it took place.
g) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who intercepted or acquired
electronic mail (e-mails) to and from the attorneys for Mr. Epstein including
but not limited to: Roy Black, Alan Dershowitz or Jack Goldberger.
Include who authorized the interception and acquisition and dates it took
place.
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4. Identify the names and addresses of all individuals who will testify that a
sexual assault took place on an airplane purportedly owned by Mr. Epstein or a Jeffrey
Epstein entity at any time between 1998 and 2005. Additionally, identify any alleged
celebrity, dignitary or international figure who purportedly was on board the airplane at
the time of the alleged sexual assault.
5. Identify in detail the amount of all costs (including photocopies,
telephone, fax, research, investigation, travel expenses, deposition related costs,
expert costs, etc.) that were incurred by you in the representation of you and/or
your law firm in representing Jane Doe, L.M. and M. prior to joining RRA.
6. Identify in detail the amount of costs (including photocopies,
telephone, fax, research, investigation, travel expenses, deposition related costs,
expert colic.) that were incurred by RRA in its representation of Jane Doe,
L.M. and during the time you were employed by RRA (or that is being
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claimed by the trustee in bankruptcy for RRA). Segregate by each of your 3
clients.
7. In titached transcript dated July 31, 2009, you stated to Judge Hafele
with regard to the MI. and L.M. cases the following:
'What the evidence is really going to show is that Mr. Epstein — at
least dating back as far as our investigation resources have permitted,
back to 1997 or '98 — has every single day of his life, made an attempt to
sexually abuse children.
We're not talking about five, we're not talking about 20, we're not
talking about 100, we're not talking about 400, which I believe, is the
number known to law enforcement, we are talking about thousands of
children, and it is through a very intricate and complicated system that he
devised where he has as many as 20 people working underneath him that
he is paying well to schedule these appointments, to locate these girls?
(A) State all evidence to support this assertion including any
individuals and/or documents which are the source of the information and
identify by name and address who currently has that information.
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(B) List the name and addresses of all females to whom you
were referring in your representation to the court.
8. During the time you were employed/associated with RRA, state the names
of all attorneys at the RRA firm with whom you discussed potential dep=ts or who
participated in any decision to depose witnesses in the Jane Doe, L.M. or M. cases.
9. During the time you were employed/associated with RRA, state the names
of all paralegals or investigators at the RRA firm with whom you discussed potential
deponeiiiir who participated in any decision to depose witnesses in the Jane Doe,
L.M. or cases.
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STATE OF FLORIDA
) ss
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH
SWORN TO AND SUBSCRIBED before me this day of , 2010 by
, who is personally known to me or has produced the
following identification which is current or has been issued
within the past five years and bears a serial or other identifying number.
Print Name
Signature
NOTARY PUBLIC - STATE OF FLORIDA
Commission Number:
My commission expires:
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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 15TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN
AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
Plaintiff,
vs.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN,
Defendant. Case No. 502008CA028058
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PROCEEDINGS BEFORE THE
HONORABLE JUDGE DONALD W. HAFELE
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IN TNN CIRCUIT COURT OF 711! 1371i JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN
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1 Proceedings In the Matter 0all. vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN.
2 July 31, 2009 8:30
3 THE COURT: Good morning, gentlemen.
4 We're here this morning on the Plaintiffs
motions to add punitive damages. Who will be
6 arguing on behalf of the Plaintiff?
7 MR. EDWARDS: Brad Edwards, Your Honor.
8 THE COURT: Alright, Mr. Edwards.
9 MR. EDWARDS: Do I need to gob the
10 podium or is right here line?
11 THE COURT: Whichever you prefer.
12 MR. EDWARDS: Your Honor, with our motion
13 we flied - and. I believe, Your Honor has It
14 the discovery that was submitted to Mr. Epstein,
15 which consists of Requests for Admissions,
16 Requests for Production, Interrogatories, as
17 well as Interrogatory responses under oath by my
18 client.
19 THE COURT: Do you have any cases that
20 speak to the presumption relative to the
21 Defendant exercising his Fifth and Sixth
22 Amendment rights during the deposition testimony
23 and/or during any other discovery?
24 MR. EDWARDS: Sure. Your Honor.
25 THE COURT: I know that Mr. Critton in his
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4 ROTHSTEIN, ROSENFELDT & ADLER
BY: WILLIAM J. BERGER, ESO.,
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6 225 NE Mime( Boulevard
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401 EMI Las O1as Boulevard
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1 reply memorandum Indicated some conflict in
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3 appellate courts relative to that issue.
MR. EDWARDS: May I approach?
THE COURT: Thank you.
MR. EDWARDS: I'm going to present the
7 case of Fraser vs. Security and Investment out
of the Fourth DCA.
9 The pertinent pan, It says: "Our
10 conclusion Is consistent with the prevailing
11 rule that the Fifth Amendment does not forbid .
12 adverse inferences against parties to civil
13 actions when they refuse to testify In response
14 to probative evidence offered against them: the
is amendment 'does not preclude the inference where
16 the privilege is claimed by a party to a civil
17 cause."
18 It skips down and says: 'Such a rule is
19 both logical and utilitarian. A party may not
20 trample upon the rights of others and then
21 escape the consequences by invoking a
22 constitutional privilege - at least not in a
23 civil setting.'
24 The final paragraph on that page says:
25 'Nor are we persuaded that the fact of
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1 invocation of the prNilege is Irrelevant and
2 immaterial' "In the case" Sorry, 'Mr.
3 Justice Brandeis... observed that 'Silence is
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character."
6 Clearly, this case, out of our district
court, is an indication that adverse inferences
may be drawn.
9 Right now we are al a punitive damages
10 stage. We are not at a stage where we are
11 talking about the admissibility of evidence. We
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13 THE COURT: Speaking only of a proffer to
14 establish punitive damages as required under
15 768.721, correct?
16 MR. EDWARDS: Exactly, and I was going to,
17 for the record, read that part of 768.721: "In
18 a civil action, there is a' --
19 THE COURT: I think we can skip that.
20 MR. EDWARDS: Okay.
21 THE COURT: The statute speaks for itself
22 and it's a part of the record today, so why
23 don't you go ahead and proceed?
24 MR. EDWARDS: The reasonable showing, by
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4 through a very intricate and complicated system
that he devised where he has as many as 20
6 people working underneath him that he is paying
7 well to schedule these appointments, to locate
8 these girls.
9 He particularly goes after a very
10 vulnerable and impressionable age group that --
11 THE COURT: To use the quotation, 'the
12 evidence will show the Defendant sought out
13 underprivileged and economically disadvantaged
14 minor females; and later go on to say,
is 'influenced them away from the typical
16 adolescent lifestyle as a result of his
17 allegedly criminal acts."
18 MR. EDWARDS: And that is exactly what
19 he's done. The age group begins as young as
20 12 years old and as old as 16 years old. There
21 will be evidence that at 16 years old, many of
22 the girls are told, 'You're getting too old for
23 me.'
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2 Defendant.
3 Intentional misconduct is defined as 'the
4 Defendant had actual knowledge of the wrong
5 permissible conduct and the high probability
6 that injury or damage lo the claimant would
7 result and, despite that knowledge,
8 intentionally pursued that course of conduct
9 resulting in injury or damage."
10 In this case, we have intentional
11 misconduct of the worse kind. This is a case
12 that has been presented to the public through
13 public relations people for the Defendant at
14 times as "five or six bad under-aged prostitutes
15 from a high school that, as one of their stops,
16 wound up at Mr. Epstein's home," and that's not
17 the case at all.
18 What the evidence is really going to show
19 is that Mr. Epstein - al least dating back as
20 far as our Investigation and resources have
21 permitted, back to 1997 or '98 - has every
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2 rest.' and he creates this God-like aura for
3 these girls and --
4 THE COURT: Let's talk about - pardon me
s for interrupting you - let's talk about the
6 precise claims that are being made here. You're
7 dealing with M. and L.M. • they're pseudonyms
a for purposes of this litigation. Why don't we
9 speak to those two individuals at this juncture
10 and how the punitive damage proffer is
11 sufficient or insufficient relative to them
12 individually, please?
13 I understand the global allegations and I
14 understand the allegedly wide scale situation
15 that you're suggesting as you've alleged here,
16 but I want to go now to the precise claims made
17 by these two Plaintiffs who are in front of the
18 Court today, and whether or not that proffer Is
19 sufficient to satisfy the case law, including
20 the case that Mr. Critton cited, and that is:
21 The Estate of Despain. D-E-S•P-A-I-N, vs. Avante
22 Group, Inc., which is found at 900 So.2d. 637,
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25 MR. EDWARDS: Yes, Your Honor, and that Is
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1 the case that states: 'a 'proffer' according to
2 traditional notions of the term, connotes merely
3 an 'offer of evidence and neither the term
4 standing alone nor the statute Itself calls for
an adjudication of the underlying veracity...is
6 merely a representation of what evidence the
7 defendant proposes to present.*
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9 answers. No. 8, wherein L.M. and, similarly,
10 III., in slightly different words, states: 'I
11 was touched, battered, and fondled by Defendant
12 Jeffrey Epstein during the incidents described
13 in the complaint. I observed the Defendant
14 touch and fondle himself. I observed the
15 Defendant ejaculate numerous times. I was made
16 to touch the Defendant. I also observed sexual
17 acts and had sexual acts perpetrated on me by
18 Defendant Jeffrey Epstein. At various times I
19 was unclothed, as was the Defendant and others.
20 Al all times material, I was a child under the
21 age of 18 years old. The Defendant also used me
22 to bring him other minor gids and he controlled
23 and brainwashed me' --
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the Defendant. I also observed sexual acts and
had sexual acts perpetrated on me and was forced
to perform on me, including oral sex and other
activities. At various times I was unclothed,
as was Defendant and others. At all times
material, I was a child under the age of
18 years. I was a victim of various criminal
acts and sexual exploitation. I was induced and
coerced by the Defendant into acts of
prostitution?
THE COURT: Thank you. You were going to
speak to a legal point —
MR. EDWARDS: Right.
THE COURT: •- before I asked you to read
into the record those Interrogatory answers. Go
ahead.
MR. EDWARDS: Where we left off was the
coercion into prostitution. What makes these
crimes so egregious is the fact that these girls
that we're talking about were all beginning
their grooming process with Mr. Epstein when
they're 14 and 16 and 16 years old.
There is a specific statute, which we have
filed, and a cause of action under our
complaint, that is under 796.09, Coercion, civil
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2 believing this lifestyle was healthy and normal
3 for a girl my age. I was a victim of various
4 criminal acts and sexual exploitation. I was
induced and coerced by Defendant Into acts of
6 prostitution.'
7 While we're on the coercion and
8 prostitution, there is a specific —
9 THE COURT: Before you move on, that's
10 L.M.'s --
11 MR. EDWARDS: Yes. Your Honor.
12 THE COURT: — Answer to Internatories?
13 Why don't you read into the record M.'s Answer
14 to InterrogalorieS so the record is dear?
15 MR. EDWARDS: I apologize, Your Honor.
16 THE COURT: Take your time.
17 MR. EDWARDS: Answer to Interrogatory No.
18 8 for indicates: 'My injuries are
19 emotional and psychological and are the direct
20 result of Defendant Jeffrey Epstein's actions.
21 I was touched, battered, and fondled by the
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23 complaints. I observed the Defendant touch and
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cause of action.
Reading 796.09, Paragraph 1: 'A person
has a cause of action for compensatory and
punitive damages' - this is in the statute -
'against a person who coerced them into
prostitution; and it goes on to define what
coercion means, and it is exactly what happened
in this case.
This statute allows for punitive damages
on a statutory level irrespective of the ago of
the person that is coerced into prostitution.
THE COURT: And the coercion that you're
talking about are the alleged acts as between
these two Plaintiffs and Mr. Epstein as opposed
lo, I think, there's something in one of the
Interrogatories that suggests that there may
have been prostitution that followed, at least
ono of the Plaintiffs, involvement with Mr.
Epstein, but you're speaking solely about the
prostitution issues as it concerns the
Plaintiffs here and Epstein; is that accurate?
MR. EDWARDS: I believe, if I understand
what you are saying, I mean, in terms of
damages, it one of the Plaintiffs - and I can
represent - if one of the Plaintiffs was led
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indoctrinated into this deviant lifestyle at an
early age by Mr. Epstein - she was not a
prostitute prior to that - and I relate that
similar to kids of that age being brought over
to somebody's house that Is as powerful and
wealthy as him and he has, let's say, cocaine on
the table, and they do that for three years.
They think it's fun at the time, but after that
they have this addiction that continues on.
This is something similar to what happened to
one of the clients.
But, yes, the coercion into prostitution
Is something that on a statutory level already
allows for punitive damages, and that's
irrespective of the age.
THE COURT: Again, I'm trying to
understand the factual basis. There's
allegations that Mr. Epstein paid these young
ladies $200 to massage him and then subsequent
thereto, there was some type of alleged sexual
activity. Are you speaking to that specifically
when you're talking about the statutory remedy
or are you speaking about something distinct
from that? 1 intentional misconduct and/or gross negligence.
2 I think the record is very clear at this
3 point, especially after this proffer, that if
4 any case Is deservant of punitive damages being
added, it's this one.
6 THE COURT: Alright. Thank you. Ill
7 give you a couple minutes to wrap up after Mr.
8 Critton finishes his argument.
9 MR. EDWARDS: Thank you. Your Honor.
10 THE COURT: Thank you.
11 MR. CRITTON: May it please the Court. As
12 the Court knows, I represent Mr. Epstein in this
13 matter.
14 Your Honor, a couple of things to start -
15 the case that Mr. Edwards cites deals with
16 inferences, deals with inferences at trial time
17 as distinct from inferences that, I believe, are
18 sufficient to carry the day, so-to-speak, in the
19 absence of other evidence with Mr. Epstein's
20 claim of Rfth Amendment privilege. As well, we
21 cited to the court cases - and I'll get to in
22 just a minute - that specifically address that
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MR. EDWARDS: No, that's specifically what
I am talking about --
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. EDWARDS: — Mr. Epstein paying them
and using their age, their economic - their lack
of wealth - the fact that these are poor,
disadvantaged children with very little parental
guidance to his advantage to induce them Into
acts of prostitution.
THE COURT: Ill give you two minutes to
wrap up, please.
MR. EDWARDS: Okay.
Your Honor. while I know that we are
focusing on and LM., there are certain
defenses that have been made such as, "The girls
were'. - "we didn't know that they were over 18,
otherwise we wouldn't have done this; where we
are going to be able to show there are hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds of girls and none of
them were over the age of 18.
Many of these girls, including my clients,
told him that they were under the age of 18 and
he continued to do this misconduct, which is
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punitive damages and, in fact, 'Do they meet the
standard under the applicable statute in this
instance'?"
What I think is the most striking part
about this - and while I believe that the
evidence may be - their perception, the
Plaintiffs' perception of the evidence - may be
different than ourselves, but I think the
evidence in this case will show, at least LM.
and were prostitutes before they ever met
Mr. Epstein, they remain prostitutes, and they
are still prostitutes today.
THE COURT: But is my role today one of
weighing the evidence or one of determining
whether or not there's a sufficient record in
order to allow a punitive damage claim to stand?
I mean, in one of the cases, I believe -
it's the case of State of Wisconsin Investment
Board vs. Plantation Square Associates, that's
found at 761 F.Supp 1569 - Judge Hugler
(phonetic) of the federal court provided an
excellent discussion of the distinction between
the proofs necessary to sustain a claim for
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4 proffer of record evidence to support a claim
for punitive damages.
6 MR. CRAYON: Right.
7 THE COURT: Aren't we at that stage; that
8 is, the kilter stage right now?
9 MR. CRITTON: Yes, and I very well
10 understand the distinction and, I believe, I
11 understand what the Courts role is in this
12 particular instance in making that
13 determination.
14 A couple of the issues though, in
15 particular - with a camera here today, for some
16 unknown reason, showing up at this hearing - is
17 there were references to drugs, alcohol, other
18 instances that are not applicable to this case.
19 There's no pleadings on that particular issue,
20 and I'm concerned about that, is that there's an
21 attempt to jack this up In the media, as I said,
22 with the camera here today, for no other
23 hearing. It's ridiculous under the
24 circumstances, and to make all of these wild
25 allegations against Mr. Epstein for which there 1 FBI agent and a U.S. attorney that was there at
2 the time - and she talked about going over to
3 Mr. Epstein's house. She said, 1 had a fake
4 ID.' She was told to make certain that she was
5 18. She told Mr. Epstein she was 18, and she
6 said it was her understanding that all of the
7 other girls that she brought for this horrific
8 experience - she continued to bring other girls
9 and go herself on a number of occasions.
10 She said that she, herself -- On Page 8,
11 it asks, "Old she ever call you?' - and I assume
12 that was someone else - and she goes. "No. I
13 gave Jeffrey my number and, I said, you know, if
14 you want me to give you a massage again,
15 basically I'm more than anxious to come."
16 On Page 9, L.M. says, "I willingly took" -
17 "so I willingly, the first time, took off my top
18 when I gave him the massage and nothing more
19 than that."
zo She goes on to say in her testimony at
21 Page 10, her sworn statement, "I said, I told
22 Jeffrey, 'I heard that you like massages
23 topless."
24 "And he said 'Like, yeah.' He said, 'But
25 you don't have to do anything that you don't
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1 Is absolutely no evidentiary proof nor was that
2 submitted here in support of their proffer, I
3 did want to address at that.
4 So let me get to the heart of the issue.
5 I think the most distinguishing pad of this
6 particular case that's different; that is, L.M.
7 and M., is the fact that L.M. gave a sworn
8 statement to the FBI in this instance.
9 Again, there's a strong distinction. She
10 gave a sworn statement back in '05 or in '06.
11 She had - L.M. did - she had an attorney, Mr.
12 Eisenberg, it was before she had a civil lawyer
13 who's seeking millions of dollars under these
14 circumstances, and the testimony of L.M. at that
15 time was very significant and it flies directly
16 in the face of her 'sworn testimony or her
17 "sworn interrogatories.'
18 The Court had Mr. Edwards read in L.M.'s
19 answer and M.'s answer to their
20 Interrogatories as to what allegedly occurred
21 with Mr. Epstein and, "Oh, surprise; they were
22 almost verbatim, word for word, as to what
23 allegedly happened.
24 But at the time of her sworn statement to
25 the FBI, L.M. said on 424/07 - again, it was an 20
1 feel comfortable with.'"
2 'And I said, 'Okay,' but I willingly took
3 it off" - this is L.M. at the time. This is her
4 sworn testimony.
5 At Page 17, the police officer or the FBI
6 agent says, 'and when he turned over then did he
7 touch you at all or was he just' -- Her answer
8 was, 'No, I did not touch him, he did not touch
9 me. He didn't even want...' and I assume to
10 'touch you.'
11 She goes on to say, "He didn't want me to
12 touch him and he didn't touch me.'
13 She goes on and on in this statement,
14 L.M., in the statement and she says, 'We had
15 fun.'
16 'It was positive," on Page 18.
17 On Page 19, "You know, I would wear
18 panties. Willingly one time, because we were
19 making jokes and everything, and willingly one
20 time, I had, yes, I was totally nude, but I was
21 fine with that.'
22 She talks about within the statement the
23 other girls that she brought over. Again, she's
24 testified or she gives the Interrogatory answer
25 that this was outrageous to her, but, yet she
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1 brought other girls to experience this. She
2 says - now that she has a civil lawyer seeking
3 money damages - now it's a bad experience.'
4 Now all of a sudden, 'He touched me, he did
these things to me."
6 She references - at least, on Page 29 of
7 the statement, Judge - there's a 'W" that's
8 referenced. "W" I would represent to be.. in
the M. complaint, and I think we established
that when Mr. Berger and I were atng a prior
motion to you. So she talks about. on Page
29.
That's when she starts saying, she says,
'EW - "she,' meaning -.,'was my baby's
father's girlfriend at the time."
Then on Page 30, 'How old was
"She was 17.'
Alright, so you have 12, 13. 14, 15, 16.
You have L.M. saying "W" was 17 at the time.
'And what happened when W' came over?'
She said the same thing, 'She went a few
times."
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1 LM. and-. in their Answers to
2 Interrogatories have made all sorts of, what we
3 believe in part, are baseless or in large part
4 baseless allegations, but we also have sworn
5 testimony of L.M. on this instance.
6 We don't have it of.., but we have LM.
7 testifying about her own experience under oath:
8 That it was positive; that he never used force,
9 that she willingly did a number of limes
10 including giving topless massages; that Mr.
11 Epstein never touched her, that she never
12 touched him inappropriately, all she did was
13 basically give him massages; that-., in this
14 instance, as well as all the other girls that
15 she took, she spoke with them afterwards, they
16 begged to go back to Mr. Epstein's home, and
17 none of them, not one of them ever complained.
18 So there's a large chasm between what is
19 now being asserted in Answers to Interrogatories
20 and mere allegations in the complaint between
21 what the sworn testimony, at least L.M., was
22 under the circumstances, as it relates to
23 herself and what she was told by M. and other
24 girls.
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1 me. They begged me, you know, for us to go to
2 Jeffrey's house because they loved Jeffrey.
3 Jeffrey Is a respectful man, he really is. I
4 mean, he all thought we were of age, always,
• that's what's so sad about it."
6 And she goes on, Page 36, and the FBI says
7 to her, 'Now, when you were working for him, you
• were going over to Jeffrey's house to give him
9 massages, did you have a boyfriend?"
10 "Yeah.'
11 "And how did your boyfriend feel about
12 it?'
13 "He was' — L.M. says, 'He was a jealous
14 little boy, but he didn't care, 'Bring home the
15 bacon,'" and the statement goes on and on, Your
16 Honor. I know you've had an opportunity road it
17 before and I reference again today.
18 There's clearly a distinction conflict
19 between L.M., now that she has a civil lawyer
20 and she wants money, versus at the time that she
21 didn't want money and she gave a statement under
22 oath to the FBI and the United States attorney's
23 office.
24 I recognize the Court's role In this. I
25 recognize the standard. I recognize that both 24
1 THE COURT: Thank you.
2 Mr. Edwards, Ill give you a couple
3 minutes here.
4 MR. EDWARDS: Your Honor, I want to
5 address the statement that was made by L.M. to
6 the FBI and how that even came about. This Is a
7 girl who, at the time of the statement, was
8 fairly unaware of the investigation against Mr.
9 Epstein, who is now, as we know, a convicted sex
10 offender.
11 An attomey showed up to her house, paid
12 for by Mr. Epstein, to represent her despite -
13 and told her that, 'For your role, you could
14 possibly be Implicated in some wrongdoing.'
15 MR. CRITTON: Your Honor, just —
16 MR. EDWARDS: He represent --
17 MR. CRITTON: — note my objection. This
18 Is complete hearsay here. He was aware of what
19 was filed. He didn't file any affidavits for
20 his client in opposition. I would object to any
21 of this.
22 THE COURT: Alright. I don't want to get
23 into any of the details. I don't think it's
24 necessary at this juncture, which probably leads
25 me to my question to you; that is: is the
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3 MR. EDWARDS: No, Your Honor, I don't
4 believe that's the standard at this stage
5 anyway, and I don't think that Mr. Critton
6 believes that either.
7 Just so the record's clear, we had nothing
8 to do with the video camera being here, although
9 that was implied. I don't know who did. I
10 don't know if it was Mr. Critton, but it wasn't
11 me.
12 THE COURT: Dan is always welcome here.
13 MR. EDWARDS: It's perfectly fine, but I
14 don't like that being on the record, that it
15 looks like I did it when I didn't.
16 THE COURT: I understand. We have a
17 record hero. The official record is being taken
18 down by our fine court reporter, so.
19 MR. EDWARDS: Either way, sounds like what
20 we just heard, that the reason that punitive
21 should not be allowed here is because these
22 14-year-old girls did this willingly.
23 We know that they're 14 years old, Mr.
24 Griffon knows they were 14, 15 year olds. There
25 were message pads and scheduling books in 1 The Court finds that, while I appreciate
2 Mr. Critton's argument and while I appreciate
3 his submission, that essentially at this stage,
4 respectfully, he is, at this point, presenting
5 countervailing evidentiary submissions.
6 The Court further goes on in paraphrasing
7 and then directly quoting Judge Hugler:
8 'Therefore a proffer is merely a representation
9 of what evidence the defendant proposes to
10 present and is not actual evidence." Actually,
11 that's a quote from Grim vs. State, 841 So.2d.
12 455, 462, and that, I believe, is a Florida
13 Supreme Court case, even though the citation
14 itself is not complete.
15 It goes on to say importantly • and that
16 Is in the Despain case • "A reasonable showing
17 by evidence in the record would typically
18 include depositions, interrogatories, and
19 requests for admissions that have been filed
20 with the court. Hence, an evidentiary hearing
21 where witnesses testify and evidence is offered
22 and scrutinized under the pertinent evidentiary
23 rules, as in a trial, is neither contemplated
24 nor mandated by the statute in order to
25 determine whether a reasonable basis has been
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1 Epsteln's possession indicating the dates, which
2 would show how old those girls were, and that's
3 evidence that will be presented in this case.
4 There are serious statutes to protect
• these kids from this kind of conduct, and these
6 second and third degree felonies were committed
7 repeatedly against them, and this is a case
▪ where, at least in a civil case, punitive
9 damages are warranted, Your Honor.
10 Thank you, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: Thank you both. I'm going to
12 grant the motion. In conformance with and
13 II:glowing the Despain case, the Court indicates,
14 in following the analysis of Judge Hugler - and,
15 by the way, that analysis of Judge Hugler is
16 commented upon on a supportive basis by several
17 appellate courts - and in the Despain case under
18 headnole 7 and 8 on Page 642 it states: "a
19 'proffer' according to traditional notions of
20 the term, connotes merely an 'offer' of evidence
21 and neither the term standing alone nor the
22 statute itself calls for an adjudication of the
23 underlying veracity of that which is submitted,
24 much less for countervailing evidentiary
25 submissions.' 28
1 established to plead punitive damages," and
2 admit this citation from the Fifth District
3 Court of Appeal, but, again, that is cited in
4 Despain.
5 Likewise, in Strasser vs. Yalamanchi, 677
6 So.2d. 22, which is a Florida Fourth District
7 Court of Appeal case from 1996, which is one of
8 the paradigm cases on the proffering of punitive
9 damage evidence, that states that "there was
10 reasonable basis for recovery of punitive
11 damages' can be demonstrated by either a
12 presentation of supporting evidence already in
13 the record or by a proffer of the evidence to
14 come.
15 I find that a combination of the Answers
16 to Interrogatories - I will take into account,
17 though, give little weight to the Fifth
18 Amendment arguments of Plaintiffs - but
19 certainly the Answers to Interrogatories on
20 behalf of both of these individual Plaintiffs in
21 this Courts view, and particularly in
22 conjunction with the Coercion statute relative
23 to prostitution, 796.09, would form a reasonable
24 basis to establish al least a claim for punitive
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12 12 MR. BERGER: Yes, Your Honor. I dratted 13 Dated this 5th day of August, 2009. 13 an order and just showed it to Mr. Critton. II 14 14 just says: "Granted for reasons staled on the 15
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2 THE COURT: — 'the amended complaint
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4 order from today."
s MR. BERGER: We'll draft it out there and
6 present it to the bailiff.
7 THE COURT: Not a problem. Thank you very
e much. Gentlemen, thank you for your arguments
9 and your submissions and have a good rest of the
10 week.
11 MR. CRITTON: If they gel it typed I'll
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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE
FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN AND
FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NO.: 502009CA040800XXXXMBAG
JEFFREY EPSTEIN,
Plaintiff,
vs.
SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually,
BRADLEY J. EDWARDS, individually,
and L.M., individually,
Defendant.
NOTICE OF SERVICE OF DEFENDANT EDWARDS'S ANSWERS TO
PLAINTIFF'S FIRST INTERROGATORIES
Defendant, Bradley Edwards hereby files his Notice of Service of Defendant's
Answers to Plaintiff's First interrogatories propounded on April 5, 2010.
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing has been
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furnished via eft Mail to all counsel on the attached list on May /I 2010.
Jack Scarola
Searcy Denney Scarola Barnhart & Shipley, P.A.
Attorneys for Defendant, Bradley Edwards
2139 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard
West Palm = - = 'nda 33409
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COUNSEL LIST
Robert D. Critton, Jr., Esquire
Michael J. Pike, Esquire
Burman, Critton, Luther & Coleman LLP
303 Banyan Boulevard, Suite 400
West Palm 33401
Pho
Fax:
Attorneys for Jeffrey Epstein
Jack Goldberger
Atterbury, Goldberger & Weiss, P.A.
250 Australian Avenue South
Suite 1400
West Palm 33401
Pho
Fax:
Attorneys for Jeffrey Epstein
Gary M. Farmer, Jr.
Farmer, Jaffe, Wei g, Edwards,
Fistos & Lehrman, M.
425 N. Andrews Avenue, Suite 2
Fort La 301
Phone•
Fax:
Attorneys for L.M.
Marc Nurik
Law Offices of Marc S. Nurik
One East Broward Boulevard, Suite 700
Fort Lauderd
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ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES
1. As to paragraph 12 of your Counterclaim, state the following in detail:
a) Identify specifically all damages which you claim you have
suffered to your reputation. Include in your response, how your reputation
has been damaged, to whom (person or entity) your reputation has been
damaged, any loss of income which you claim as a result of the current
lawsuit against you and how you calculate that loss.
ANSWER:
I have spent more than 50 hours of time defending this action against me. The lawsuit
against me was made public and makes serious allegations that I have personally
committed criminal acts that involve dishonesty. I have been asked about this lawsuit
by a number of people on multiple of occasions. Current clients have inquired and
prospective clients have been and continue to be placed on notice of these false
allegations.
b) Identify In detail how the lawsuit filed against you has
interfered in any professional relationships. Identify In your answer all
professional relationships which have in any way been negatively
Impacted or lost or compromised as a result of this lawsuit. Identify the
name and address of the individual and/or entity with whom you have the
professional relationship, how it has been affected and Identify any
monetary damage which you sustained.
ANSWER:
Not yet completely determined at this time.
c) Identify by date the exact amount of time (and specify how
your time was spent) that has been diverted from your professional
responsibilities.
ANSWER:
Not yet completely determined at this time.
2. (a) Identify all costs and/or fees you have incurred (to whom and under
what circumstances) for the defense of the Epstein claim as set forth in paragraph 12 of
your Counterclaim.
ANSWER:
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(b) State whether you have a written or oral fee agreement with Seamy
Denney and the terms of same. Include amount of money paid to date and if you paid a
retainer.
ANSWER:
Written.
3. During the time you were associated with Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler,
PA. ("RRA"), state the following:
a) Identify by person and date any person who performed any
searches of trash at 358 El Brillo Way, Palm Beach, Florida which is
alleged to be the home of Mr. Epstein which were authorized by you or
which you learned had taken place, if not authorized by you. If not
authorized by you, identify who did authorize it?
ANSWER:
Nobody.
ANSWER:
Nobody. b) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or Investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or Its attorneys or investigators who conducted wire taps or
'bugging" on any telephones which purported to be from the home of Mr.
Epstein. Include who authorized the wire taps and dates it took place.
c) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or Investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who conducted wire taps or
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'bugging" on any telephones which are purported to be from the attorneys
for Mr. Epstein Including but not limited to: Roy Black, Alan Dershowltz or
Jack Goldberger. Include who authorized the wire taps and dates It took
place.
ANSWER:
Nobody.
d) identify all intercepted phone conversations authorized by
RRA including but not limited to any one of its attorneys or investigators or
anyone retained by or working for RRA or its attorneys or Investigators
and/or RRA investigators; identify the date, the source of the call, who
conducted the intercepted telephone conversations and whether a tape
and/or transcript exist of such conversations.
ANSWER:
Nobody
e) Identify all intercepted cell phone conversations authorized
by RRA Including but not limited to any one of its attorneys or Investigators
or anyone retained by or working for RRA or its attorneys or investigators
and/or RRA Investigators; Identify the date, the source of the call, who
conducted the Intercepted cell phone conversations and whether a tape
and/or transcript exist of such conversations.
ANSWER:
Nobody
f) Identify all individuals at the RRA Including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or Its attorneys or investigators who intercepted or acquired
electronic mail (e-malls) to and from the home of Mr. Epstein. Include who
authorized the Interception and acquisition and dates it took place.
ANSWER:
Nobody
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g) Identify all individuals at the RRA including but not limited to
any one of its attorneys or investigators or anyone retained by or working
for RRA or its attorneys or investigators who intercepted or acquired
electronic mail (e-mails) to and from the attorneys for Mr. Epstein including
but not limited to: Roy Black, Alan Dershowitz or
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