[Learning the Trade]

Gold, Mr, Roth, Terry, Schwartz, Sam

New York, New York City, United States

1939-03-14

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Forms to be Filled out for Each Interview
FORM A
Circumstances of Interview
New York
Tom Roth
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47 lost 69th Street, N.Y.C.
March 22, 1939
Learning The Trade
1. Date and tint of Interview
2. Place of interview
larch 14th Noon
Nissen Sons
3. Name and address of informant
***Gold
4. Name and address of person, if any, who put you in
touch with informant.
Sam Sohwartz
5. Name and address of person, if any, accompanying you
Sam Schwartz
6. Description of room, house, surroundings, etc.
FOLKLORE

Nif; YORK
Sam Schwartz
162 Wont 15th Street, N.Y.C.
(Use as many additional sheets as necessary, for any of the forms, each
bearing the proper heading and the number to which the material refers.)
44, 8155

FORM C
Text of Intervicnv (Unedited)
FOLKLORE
NEW YORK
STATE New York
NE OF WORKER Terry Roth Sam Schwartz
ADDRESS 47 Y. 69th Street, N.Y.C. 152 T. 13th Street, N.Y.C.
DATE March 22, 1939
SUBJECT LearninL The Trade
LEARNING TEL TRADE
"When the immigrants used to come to this country, I DON''2
SAY people were smarter to work up to work for themselves. Nat-
urally, they knew how they were livinc. They tried to take a
greens soon he used to come to this country, for learning a trade.
I paid twice. My father used to live on a farm. So what did I
know of a trade? I came to this country. I had a sister here.
Lo she said the best thing is for me to -tart learning a cloak
maker.
"Find out a man with work. Give him ten dollars and work
two weeks for nothing."
I find out a lontamon. When I was in London I met a man
once, That was in 1900. That time there was a crisis for the
greens. The people are actually star-qv-inv. They were laying in
in the street. Starvin6 from hunger. So, I :let this lontamen.
He was standing in the street. I was well off already. So I
took him home. AND I gave him a suit of clothes. AND a pair
of shoes. AND I fixed him up something to eat. THEN I went
410 Africa and all the time I used to write him letters.
When I came to the United States he was a long time cloak-

maker. Sinai he is over here. So he says to me when ism asking
he should teach me to le a oloakmaker.
"Myself, I would learn you for nothinc. But my lartner
wouldn't let re." So I gave him ten dollars and for two weeks
I work for nethag. The third -6eek he Eives me two and a half
dollars. Liter ell, I was a tic 'fellow. 23 years old. After
Iwas workinc about three weeks I say to hl. ".Simon, how's
about learniaL r.,e a little more?" So he says. "Gold, if you
would be a strancers it would be diffioult. But being you're
a friend, it's different. Now it's War,. So you w,Jrk what-
ever we give you to turn out. When it'll come the slow son,
I'm learning you from I to Z." I took hic word for it. And
I worked the season. And then his partner lets me off. he
don't want me no more. "For the next season he isn't need-
ing me. Who is going to takea greena? And pay nine or ten
dollars? After all I didn't know the trade. So I ate up all
the money. And I had no trade. Then I met another feller.
"I'll learn you" he says. "Fay me ten dollars and work
two weeks for nothing." I paid. That feller really learned
me the trade. So fel-, that I kept up the job that I was work-
in::: for three years. After that, was a stri-,e. That's how
it was. Those bosses. They would look on your face and see
the character. Mel I was always easy goinL, the way you look
at me now. So with =A they could do that. But it didn't Lake
me long to see who is my friend."