Newly declassified documents released Thursday by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard show that a U.S. national laboratory assessed the COVID-19 lab-origin hypothesis as a serious possibility as early as May 2020, as well as evidence of U.S.-funded coronavirus research that included planning for spike-protein modifications, receptor-adaptation experiments, and testing in humanized mice in collaboration with researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The documents also prove that Anthony Fauci lied under oath. Today, on my final day as Director of National Intelligence, I’m releasing never-before-seen communications and documents exposing how Dr. Fauci provided millions in US taxpayer dollars to fund dangerous gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, worked with politicized elements… pic.twitter.com/ZMdliW4zyS The release, issued on Gabbard’s last day on the job, includes an eight-page May 27, 2020, assessment from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s Z Program. That assessment concluded that “ all of the necessary conditions for an accidental release of a laboratory-modified coronavirus - specifically a coronavirus adapted to recognize human cell receptors - were present at the Chinese Wuhan Institute of Virology in mid-to-late 2019 .” It assigned equal weight to a laboratory-modification hypothesis and a natural-origin scenario. Meanwhile, Recall that while the government was locking us down, Dr. Anthony Fauci and those in his orbit were actively fabricating a 'wet market' narrative that would conceal US research as a possible origin - despite his own advisors initially insisting that COVID-19 looked manmade. In his January 2024 transcribed interview, Fauci was asked about conversations concerning the same three topics - COVID origins, WIV, and EcoHealth . When asked about the CIA, he answered yes: he said he was briefed “once or twice” in a secure NIH facility and also recalled a briefing in a White House situation room. The newly released documents then show a June 4, 2021 briefing involving CIA/WCP personnel, NSC officials, and Fauci , during which Fauci offered views on pangolin research, sick WIV researchers, single-lineage vs. multi-lineage evidence, and recommended scientists for the IC to contact. A separate CIA-context email says that same 40-minute secure video teleconfrenece involved CIA/WCPMC officials and that Fauci gave thoughts on the 4 May 2021 COVID-origin briefing and recommended U.S. scientists to consult. So, he lied. According to a statement released with the files, " Fauci worked with politicized career leadership in the Intelligence Community (IC) to suppress the truth about his actions , the virus’ lab-leak origins, and his role in directing U.S. funding for this dangerous research that caused immeasurable harm and countless lost lives. These documents expose Fauci’s direct role in influencing and manipulating IC assessments on COVID-19, and how Fauci lied to Congress in 2024 , when under oath he denied knowledge of or participation in discussions with intelligence officials about viral research." The files include the Year 5 progress report for EcoHealth Alliance’s NIH grant 5R01AI110964-05. Under Specific Aim 3, the project outlined plans to: This research track overlaps with work described in the 2018 DEFUSE proposal , which involved EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina, and Shi Zhengli’s team at WIV. The proposal sought to create chimeric bat coronaviruses with enhanced human infectivity, including consideration of furin cleavage site insertion to improve lung-cell entry, and to test the resulting viruses in humanized mice originally developed in Baric’s lab. A 2016 WIV paper included in the release describes a synthetic shuttle vector system for assembling large DNA fragments, with demonstrated capability up to 31 kilobases. The authors presented the method as a tool for “genome-scale DNA reconstruction,” a technique relevant to synthetic biology and virus engineering. Surveillance work under the same NIH grant reported that 9 of 1,497 rural residents in southern China (0.6%) were seropositive for bat SARS-related or HKU10 coronaviruses. And from leaked emails three years ago: Among other things, the NIH helped fund experiments at WIV t hat infected genetically engineered mice with “chimeric” hybrids of SARS-related bat coronaviruses in what some scientists have described as unacceptably risky research . ... Andersen laid them out plainly in an email to Fauci that same evening. “ The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome (<0.1%) so one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered, ” Andersen wrote in the email. “I should mention,” he added, “that after discussions earlier today, Eddie, Bob, Mike and myself a ll find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory . But we have to look at this much more closely and there are still further analyses to be done, so those opinions could still change.” - The Intercept A June 8, 2021, internal email in the release references a 2016 New York Academy of Medicine meeting at which Peter Daszak reportedly discussed colleagues in China “manipulating the spike protein on coronavirus to make them more virulent.” Other 2020–2021 emails show officials debating technical concerns, including references to a DOD report on a “suspicious added furin-site” and FBI reporting containing unusual genetic descriptions. One analyst noted the risk that non-experts could misinterpret technical data while still calling for scrutiny. Another observed that “the IC took direction straight from NIH… the people that funded the Wuhan Lab” and referenced “a complex web of money and politics influencing analysis.” July 2021 emails concerning the selection of outside reviewers for COVID-origin assessments show officials rejecting several candidates for political sensitivity or conflict-of-interest reasons: These materials provide primary-source documentation that a U.S. national laboratory assessed a laboratory origin as equally plausible to natural emergence at a time when prominent scientific publications were publicly emphasizing a natural zoonotic source and characterizing alternative hypotheses as conspiracy theories. This includes the February 2020 Lancet letter and the March 2020 Nature Medicine paper “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2”, along with subsequent amplification by NIH leadership. The research details in the declassified grant reports and proposals involved techniques and modifications - spike-protein engineering, receptor adaptation, humanized-mouse testing, and consideration of furin cleavage sites - that later featured prominently in scientific debate over SARS-CoV-2’s characteristics.

• • • I was asked “ Don’t you think there should be any checks to who we allow into the US? “ Judge Blocks Trump’s Move to Ban Harvard from Enrolling Foreign Students Yesterday, I reported Judge Blocks Trump’s Move to Ban Harvard from Enrolling Foreign Students This took the expected time, less than a day. Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts and I cheer the court’s prompt smackdown. In response I received a couple of replies worth discussing. I also have additional information on due process and the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). Reader Responses George : There are so many unanswered questions with this opinion piece. The government – not Harvard – is responsible for who to allow in the country. This is security based. You have no idea if there is a security risk yet you go out on a limb and call it stupid. John : Don’t you think there should be any checks to who we allow into the US and why? Harvard was targeted because they refused to comply with simple rules that even Columbia agreed to. If an institution is bringing in political activists with ties to terrorists, why give them unchecked power to grant visas? What other country does that? Sorry, no Paul or Ringo. Should There Be Checks? Yes, and there are. The Dept of Homeland Security (DHS), specifically through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and its Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP), approves foreign student entry to the United States. So all of these students were vetted by Homeland Security and ICE. What a hoot. Due Process and the APA The Trump Administration action was unbelievably amateurish.  It’s clear retaliation for Harvard’s position, something the federal government simply cannot do. For starters, it’s a First Amendment violation. Second, there was no hearing at all, so it violates the Due Process Clause and the APA. Third, the explanation of “antisemitism” and admitting people with questionable views without giving any factual bases is a violation of the First Amendment, Due Process Clause and the APA. The above is from a constitutional law expert friend. The next quote is an AI generated response to a question on Due Process and the APA. The APA The Due Process Clause, found in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, and the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) work together to ensure fairness in administrative proceedings. The APA outlines the procedural requirements that federal agencies must follow during rule-making and adjudication, while the Due Process Clause provides a constitutional framework for ensuring procedural fairness when the government acts in a way that could deprive a person of life, liberty, or property. Going Out on a Limb George: “ You have no idea if there is a security risk yet you go out on a limb and call it stupid .” I called it stupid because it is not only economically stupid but unconstitutional for three reasons. I discussed the security aspects and constitutionality above. Let’s recap the economic stupidity. On May 23, I rcommented Trump Stupidly Blocks Harvard From Enrolling Foreign Students Trump’s latest move on Harvard is likely illegal but certainly stupid. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not supposed to be sent. It’s sickening. So, yes, it is clearly stupid, vindictive, arbitrary, unconstitutional for three reasons, and sickening. And the hoot of the day regards security when the students were vetted by Homeland Security! Finally, the asininity of applying a blanket rule on 6,800 students to satisfy Trump’s power play ego speaks for itself, as does his obvious disdain of the constitution and due process. Do I have any concessions on just how stupid this is? Addendum Please note Belgium’s future queen caught up in Harvard foreign student ban . Princess Elisabeth has completed first year of master’s degree but Trump administration’s crackdown may jeopardize studies. Judge Blocks Trump’s Move to Ban Harvard from Enrolling Foreign Students Yesterday, I reported Judge Blocks Trump’s Move to Ban Harvard from Enrolling Foreign Students This took the expected time, less than a day. Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts and I cheer the court’s prompt smackdown. In response I received a couple of replies worth discussing. I also have additional information on due process and the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). Reader Responses Sorry, no Paul or Ringo. Should There Be Checks? Yes, and there are. The Dept of Homeland Security (DHS), specifically through U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and its Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP), approves foreign student entry to the United States. So all of these students were vetted by Homeland Security and ICE. What a hoot. Due Process and the APA The Trump Administration action was unbelievably amateurish.  It’s clear retaliation for Harvard’s position, something the federal government simply cannot do. For starters, it’s a First Amendment violation. Second, there was no hearing at all, so it violates the Due Process Clause and the APA. Third, the explanation of “antisemitism” and admitting people with questionable views without giving any factual bases is a violation of the First Amendment, Due Process Clause and the APA. The above is from a constitutional law expert friend. The next quote is an AI generated response to a question on Due Process and the APA. The APA The Due Process Clause, found in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, and the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) work together to ensure fairness in administrative proceedings. The APA outlines the procedural requirements that federal agencies must follow during rule-making and adjudication, while the Due Process Clause provides a constitutional framework for ensuring procedural fairness when the government acts in a way that could deprive a person of life, liberty, or property. Going Out on a Limb George: “ You have no idea if there is a security risk yet you go out on a limb and call it stupid .” I called it stupid because it is not only economically stupid but unconstitutional for three reasons. I discussed the security aspects and constitutionality above. Let’s recap the economic stupidity. On May 23, I rcommented Trump Stupidly Blocks Harvard From Enrolling Foreign Students Trump’s latest move on Harvard is likely illegal but certainly stupid. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not supposed to be sent. It’s sickening. So, yes, it is clearly stupid, vindictive, arbitrary, unconstitutional for three reasons, and sickening. And the hoot of the day regards security when the students were vetted by Homeland Security! Finally, the asininity of applying a blanket rule on 6,800 students to satisfy Trump’s power play ego speaks for itself, as does his obvious disdain of the constitution and due process. Do I have any concessions on just how stupid this is? Addendum Please note Belgium’s future queen caught up in Harvard foreign student ban . Princess Elisabeth has completed first year of master’s degree but Trump administration’s crackdown may jeopardize studies. Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. What is truly scary is that people like George and John, like so many others cannot see what is going on. How gullible they are to Trump’s lies and bullshit while he robs the country blind. He has done some good things but the cost is too high. I never thought this could happen in the USA. I never thought there would be a day when so many Republicans, the people who guard the rights of the constitution so completely, are so willing to allow Trump and his entourage to trample all over it. How can they not see they are next. And, before someone tries to accuse me of being a democrat, I am not, I am scared of what kind of world we are creating for out children and grand children. Thanks I pinned your comment to the top. Corrected “George and Paul” to “George and John” May use your comment in a post. We need Ringo’s opinion too. we are creating debt and not only the monetary kind That’s true, the debt will be repaid by hyperinflation or collapsing living standards at best & a good ass kicking if the delusion of grandeur persists. You are the one that cannot see what is going on. Harvard collects billions of taxpayer dollars each year while actively discriminating against the majority of the population, on the basis of race. It is unfair to ask middle class taxpayers to pay for this illegal and unfair discrimination. Especially, when Harvard enjoys a 53-billion-dollar endowment. Steve your response is idiotic This is about admissions, not funding. I do not agree with funding and that is a separate issue. And the irony is foreign students pay full tuition. Moreover the 53 Billion endowment is from donations. Idiotic does not due justice to your comment. You said – “ This is about admissions, not funding. , , And the irony is foreign students pay full tuition.” Exactly, halting foreign student admissions means less tuition and that directly impacts Harvard’s funding. This is a pressure point, one of many designed to convince Harvard to end its discriminatory and illegal practices. A recent poll noted that 80% of the respondents consisting of parents with school age children want to see an end to race based admissions, hiring and scholarships at colleges and universities. It is stunning that Harvard Trustee’s are so wedded to illegal discrimination. I applaud every effort the government employs to end Harvard’s discriminatory policies. Funding and admissions are not separate issues. Harvard is playing politics through admissions . If Qatar and China are giving you lots of money, you ‘re not going to vet or exclude students from those countries. You will exclude the “A” student from from Indiana, and you will admit the “B+” student from China and the activist from Lebanon. As far as research, they should be paid through ordinary invoices for services rendered, not given blank checks for “research promises”. You should see the whole case under the prism of “US private universities have been living the easy high life for decades, at the expense of the taxpayer”. And since we’re such fans of Chinese cars, let’s bring in departments of Chinese Universities too – for good old libertarian competition. Those dollars are research grants from things like NASA, NIH, NOAA, etc. They’re NOT used for education …. I suppose there’s some DEI crap and womyn’s studies that get funded with federal dollars but that’s the fault of the govt, not colleges/universities)\. Corporations can’t do research for things like cancer cures: no guaranteed success/profits. The govt, except for a few national research labs, is simply not organized to do research. Hence, universities do it. This is why the US has become the scientific powerhouse of the planet, there is no other reason. If we can finally get the right combo of white scientists, black scientists, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Japanese, Chinese, Gay, Trans, and non-binary scientists we’ll finally cure cancer!!!! /sarc The govt should not give one dime to any institution that practices racism and sexism, which is EXACTLY what DEI is. Research grants are NOT separate from university education. The schools in Harvard’s class have as many or more graduate students as undergraduates. The research funded by university grants is conducted by Ph.D. students supervises by professors. The grants pay to educate & train the Ph.D. students whose doctoral dissertations, and resulting publications, document the research results. You forget that US universities are a business, foreign & US student often wave money in their faces to get their children enrolled as the revelations have shown. This is only a big story now cuz Trump is trying to distinguish any likely barrier to his dictatorial ambitions. This is exactly like Germany 1933. Never have these universities been interested in meritocracy, they discriminate against the poor & not by country, quit with the self pity cuz this time last year you had no idea at all about universities, students for centuries rose up to be heard against wars, inequality etc & this is just another extreme gov reaction cuz they fear no one more than University student. Germany 1933 This new leaning toward xenophobia is not conducive to a peaceful world and is inconsistent with Trump’s claim of making peace in a troubled world. I am most disappointed with such a policy. Free exchange is the best path to peace – both economically and diplomatically. Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Harvard shattered Trump’s brittle ass by not kissing his ego. I’m truly saddened to see The Fed, with us in their leaking boat, has now started to use “Stealth QE” (unannounced QE) to cover up for Foreign Policy issues [mistakes]. Seriously, IMHO this is the first step down an unending debasement of the dollar. No one has a monopoly on virtue or intelligence, but in my ~50 yrs in Capital Market roles, etc. I do not recall anything as unnerving as this. “Fed Quietly Buys $43,600,000,000 in US Treasuries in Alleged ‘Stealth QE’ Operation After China Abruptly Dumps Billions in Bonds.” [Fearing the downturn I had quit watching the demise a bit. But with news like this other Central Banks and Foreign holders may start bailing and such.] Stealth currency debasement is quite sad to see. Your borrowed interpretation from a so called “constitutional law expert friend” is an extremely weak form of argumentation. Anonymous expert lol. Then you present it as fact and claim that all these actions are clearly unconstitutional. Who controls foreign visas and entry to the US? The courts? No. The executive branch? Yes. That’s what the constitution calls for, directly, literally with no interpretation needed. It has nothing to do with Harvard’s so called free speech. Now, since we live in the swamp of an administrative state with layer upon layer of quasi law presented by federal agencies, vague laws presented by congress which itself has been grossly corrupted, is lazy and focuses on reelection and grift, the courts who themselves were created by congress, not the constitution, which created one court, SCOTUS, the private sector law firms who feed those courts candidates, mainly along the lines of prestige from schools like Harvard and Yale, well that’s a can of worms isn’t it. You can’t get through all that bullshit by framing issues emotionally. If the executive controls foreign policy, which it does, including admission to the US by visa etc., then if the executive determines that it is not in the best interest of the US to admit certain people, you’re saying that the lower courts have the power to over rule this? Then they are conducting foreign policy. Which is unconstitutional. I gotta give you credit – you ALMOST know what you are talking about. Sure, the executive branch approves/disapproves visas – BUT the courts determine if the executive branch is doing this in accordance with the constitution. There is this thing called checks and balances built into the constitution and I’m not going to try to “… get through all that(your) bullshit” cause “there are none so blind as those that will not see.” Is it really in the US interest that high-IQ Indians and Chinese take over the upper echelons of US society? India and China are both global competitors to the US. Though Trump’s sweeping orders are stupid, they do expose major holes in our debates, and they force us to expose our own hypocrisies, don’t they? What if I propose we bring in the country Departments of the top Chinese, Russian, European and Japanese. The government would give them proportional funding as it pays Harvard and Yale. And they’re going to have their own untouchable admission and graduation policies, just as Harvard does. Competition is always good… right? After all, this is not the country of a nation anymore, it’s an international gathering place/economic zone, with temporary borders. It is clear that the decision to accept a foreign student should be based on examining the attitude of the student himself, and not on the university that invites him Every one of you seems to have missed the point that while DHS is responsible for vetting the students on visa before they enter , those Visas come with legal requirements. Students who violate the terms of their visas while in the U.S. can have their visas revoked. When questions arise about visa violations, universities and employers have legal responsibilities to provide DHS with relevant information, as they would for any other legal investigation. What Harvard is doing is the equivalent of Mish smoking pot, blogging about it, and then telling the police they cannot investigate the obvious smell. The Trump administration’s tactics are hardball negotiations. Harvard, as a well known recidivist long-time offender with no sense of wrongdoing or remorse, has earned the treatment they’re receiving. I think Harvard should yield. Trump has been methodically upping the pressure on the University in measured steps. I’m no legal expert, but with the statements made by students and Student organizations on October 8, a case could be made against them for supporting a terrorist organization. Withholding the security footage of these terrorist supporters would involve conspiracy to commit. That would be harsh charges for getting duped by a Middle East intelligence operation. Yes, Harvard should yield. Off topic of this specific discussion but germane to the general concept of control: If the United States government subsidizes an institution, does it not have a voice in the curriculum and the students who may participate in it? I realize that the US (Trump) has suspended some or all of our subsidies to Harvard, so I agree that Harvard or any other institution can then set the standards for who it admits and what it teaches as long as it is not illegal, but if the University accepts government money, then it better listen to Daddy, or lose it. I don’t know why Harvard should be exempt to this policy. But perhaps this issue is moot regarding Harvard, or should be now. Vented? By the Biden administration!…Right I agree with much of what you said, but I mainly oppose the actions against Harvard because they seem primarily motivated by an intent to prevent demonstrators (or more to punish demonstrators) who peacefully protest the US sponsored, paid for Israeli genocide in Gaza. So I asked Grok “What are the 10 worst specific acts of violence committed by student protestors at Harvard and Columbia university against Jewish students during the Gaza protests? See the response below. The fact is there were NO such acts of violence. The only incident listed which involves a physical assault was Yoseph Haddad, who turns out to be an Orthodox Christian. You would think from mainstream media reports and Trump’s retaliatory actions and threats against Harvard that there were massive pogroms against Jews, that the Jewish students lived in terror, beaten and abused, literally afraid for their lives. So now Trump endorses cancel culture and censorship when it suits his donor base. Looks like this is setting the stage for hate speech laws, laws prohibiting any criticism of Jews, Zionists or Israel, just like they have in Europe. They are already being set in motion. I don’t trust anything coming out of the mainstream media-including FoxNews. All refuse to cover the horror of the Gaza genocide, and instead promote the ridiculous narrative that the main story is that campus protests are some kind of pogrom against Jewish students. Nice misdirection. From Grok: “…There is limited evidence in available sources detailing specific acts of violence committed by student protesters at Harvard and Columbia University against Jewish students during the Gaza protests in 2024 and 2025. While there are reports of antisemitic incidents and tensions on these campuses, most sources describe the protests as largely nonviolent, with specific acts of violence either attributed to outside agitators, vaguely described, or not explicitly linked to Jewish students as targets. Below, I’ve compiled the most relevant incidents from available data, but the sources do not provide a clear list of ten distinct, well-documented violent acts specifically targeting Jewish students by student protesters. Instead, I’ve included incidents that are cited as antisemitic or aggressive, noting where details are unclear or contested. I’ve also included rebuttals from pro-Palestinian groups and contextualized the incidents with available information. Incidents at Columbia University Physical Assault at School of General Studies Gala (April 2024): Six students wearing keffiyehs in support of arrested pro-Palestinian protesters reported being harassed and physically assaulted at Columbia’s School of General Studies Gala. The source does not specify the assailants’ identities or whether they were students, nor does it confirm the victims were Jewish, but the incident occurred in the context of heightened tensions around the Gaza protests. Attempted Flag Burning (April 2024): A Jewish student, Rotem Weiss, reported that protesters attempted to burn an Israeli flag on campus, which he perceived as an aggressive act against Jewish students. The source does not confirm whether the perpetrators were students or if the act was completed. Water Spilling Incident (April 2024): Weiss also reported witnessing a man spilling water on a Jewish student, described as an act of aggression. Details about the perpetrator’s status as a student or the context of the incident are unclear. Punching of Arab-Israeli Activist (April 18, 2024): An Arab-Israeli activist, Yoseph Haddad, was allegedly punched by a protester outside Columbia’s campus during an event organized by a student group. The incident led to the cancellation of the event, but it’s unclear if the assailant was a Columbia student or an outside individual. Occupation of Hamilton Hall (April 30, 2024): Protesters occupied Hamilton Hall, breaking windows during the action. While this was cited as a violent act, no direct targeting of Jewish students was reported, though Jewish students expressed feeling unsafe due to the escalation. Organizers claimed such acts were by “outside agitators” rather than students. Incidents at Harvard University Verbal Harassment and Antisemitic Chants (October 2023): Jacob Miller, president of Harvard’s Hillel chapter, reported seeing “hateful posts on social media” and hearing references to antisemitic tropes, such as Jewish control of the media, during pro-Palestinian protests. While not physical violence, these were perceived as threatening by Jewish students. Specific perpetrators were not identified as students. Subway Station Incident (April 2024): A Harvard professor reported seeing a pro-Palestinian protester holding a sign with the word “Hamas” in the Harvard Square subway station, which he found threatening. When he shouted, “Let Israel live,” a protester laughed dismissively, which he felt was insulting. It’s unclear if the protester was a Harvard student, and no physical violence was reported. Encampment Rules Excluding Zionists (April 2024): At a Harvard protest encampment, a sign reportedly included a rule stating, “Don’t talk to Zionists,” which Alitza Hochhauser, a Jewish student, found threatening and exclusionary. No physical violence was described, but the rhetoric contributed to feelings of fear among Jewish students. Verbal Attack at Encampment (April 2024): Hochhauser reported that a friend was told to “go back to Europe” by someone inside the Harvard protest encampment. The identity of the speaker (student or non-student) was not specified, and no physical violence was noted….” Harvard published its own report on campus antisemitism at the end of April, 2025. It is over 233 pages, and found and describes several dozens of substantial and pervasive instances of anti-semitism; far more significant and pervasive than the few silly examples you cite from Grok. You can read Harvard’s report here: FINAL-Harvard-ASAIB-Report-5.7.25.pdf so what? Seriously Does that justify Trump’s actions? The post above trivialized the issue of antisemitism at Harvard. Harvard’s own report sets the record straight – the problems are pervasive and structural. This is part of the charges against Harvard in regard to receipt of federal funding. This, plus the admitted discrimination against Asians, as noted by the Supreme Court, and the DEI practices of race-based admissions, hiring and scholarships, places Harvard in plain violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, disqualifying the school from receiving federal funding. This is what is at stake in the Harvard litigation. i was up at columbia for the protests. there was no tormenting of jewish students. many jews are anti zionists there in fact. lots of ultra orthodox hasidic jews there protesting against zionist genocide…………..the pro israeli protesters outside the campus was the only violence we saw. they were brutal, too. I personally know at LEAST ten people, and one of them is one of my best friends, who came to America from Sweden, Germany, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Israel. I went to school with half of them (were in College WITH them) and these were indeed elites of their classes in their respective countries. To think that my friends would be deported is clearly insane. These are people who spend MONEY on Tuition, Housing, Food, Autos and so on. ALL of them graduated and Thomas, my pal from Germany, was Magna Cum Laude with excellent grades. He and I went on into the Silicon Valley where we BOTH put in over 30 years in our respective Companies, and we BOTH ended up being principle owners of our last companies – – both High-Tech suppliers to PC manufacturers. Thomas has moved back to Germany and lives part time in our “home town” in the Algarve of Portugal and he is a GREAT MAN in my opinion. Thanks for the true-life story. This illustrates in a personal way the harm that government interference in higher education can do. It’s only one school and the students have time to transfer to another easily if indeed they are good students. It’s not a career killer. If you’re working on a PhD it’s generally back to square one if you transfer to another school once you’ve started on your dissertation. And, Harvard, per Noem’s directive, still has one more chance to provide the requested information. Well fortunately, they probably didn’t engage in antisemitism, so good for them. Apples to oranges. Were on a slippery slope. Not every German was a nazi. Some were in different political parties. Some were in the nazi party but only somewhat agreed with the “good” things hitler was doing for the county. In the end everyone suffered destruction of a country loss of life. Not only for German but the rest of the world. Its the same with the republicans today. A good chunk of the party puts up with trump because they like what hes doing. Pick a topic. immigration/ sticking it to libs/ cutting government waste. Etc. how effective these policies they do not care or understand. Mean while trump is chewing away at anyone or institution that stands in his way. The republican. Congress has caved. They wont stop him. Because the are afraid to get primaried / trumps wraith / or fear for their and families safety. Beat a few down the rest will fall in line. Ps. Darvo. Deny attack reverse victim and offender. You will see it everywhere Some vetting. These supposedly vetted students rampaged throughout the campus, took over common areas and buildings, interfered with classes, and threatened the Jewish students for weeks, while the administration did nothing. No doubt Harvard will get their day in court – in a year or two, and possibly an injunction protecting existing students. but it is doubtful the Appellate Court or the Supreme Court will enforce an junction that requires the government to issue a permit to let new foreign students enroll given what happened. The foreign students merely need to attend a different University that is committed to nondiscrimination. I suggest Dartmouth or Brown. It is repeatedly mentioned by some that voted for Trump, I didn’t for this or that executive order, or the presidency is for sale, or Orwellian doublespeak programs, etc. The student visa cancellation is just another of Trumps EOs, tweets, public statements that fall into the I didn’t vote for this. Can a coalition of Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and like minded citizens that want to end this devolution into fascism, put aside their differences temporarily until the 2026 biennial election and support on the campaign trail Trump’s impeachment, removal and prosecution? This man masquerading as president and some of the GOP lawmakers that support his illegal kidnappings off of American streets, illegal deportations, potential contempt of court actions, further widening the wealth divide, increasing the War Department’s budget to $1T, etc., has gotten so out of hand that in the House tax bill there is a section in it that would stop any court in the land from ordering injunctions, contempt of court rulings, etc., unless the plaintiff posts a bond. What are the signs of fascism? https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html The link doesn’t include control of the courts as a sign of fascism but it is part of autocracy from the far right and left governments. The citizens of the US are now experiencing this decline at a rate the US has rarely experienced since the Alien and Sedition Acts were passed. This proto American fascism makes McCarthy and other fear mongers from the Right, jingoists and/or xenophobes appear as rank amateurs and reflects how far this country has moved from the Red Scare, the Palmer raids, anti-immigrant laws to an outright fascistic unitary executive government in the making. Well articulated. Trump is not working to make America anything other than his personal wealth and power builder. There has to be a legitimate method for responsible people to remove this tyrant! I love my country – but I fear its president. These Are the Universities Most Dependent on International Students https://archive.is/2EgI1#selection-513.0-513.72 Very interesting. Most of the top US universities have more than 20% foreign students. It was under the Obama administration the share of international students really took off. Campus facilities had to be expanded by borrowing for a longer term (typically 30 year bonds) than those students would be attending, so any drop in foreign enrollment would severely impact budgets. So you think that because they were vetted by Homeland Security they are safe? How thorough is the vetting process especially back under Biden when most of these students were vetted? And considering that the vetting process to grant visas isn’t working well when over half a million visa holders who were supposedly vetted break the law each year and overstay their visas. Also while I agree that it is unfortunate that 6800 foreign students are caught up in the dick measuring contest between Trump and the intransigeant board of Harvard it is not possible that all 6800 are innocent. Why doesn’t Harvard hand over the evidence from the protests to the government so that the troublemakers at those protests can be identified. It’s one thing to have peaceful protests even if things we don’t agree on but those engaged in intimidation, violence, trespass and vandalism should be kicked out of Harvard, prosecuted and if not citizens deported. But Harvard paid lip service to stopping the attacks or punishing those involved so Trumps admin is going after both Harvard and its many rotten apples. Why don’t you think instead of being a Trump parrot? The Administration has no right to ask for the personal details it is asking. Mish, you’re wrong. When I applied for a student visa in 1997, the school asked me to fax them proof of financial support and resources (Bank accounts and solemn declaration of at least one third party-family member who would guarantee my financial support), Birth Certificate, a Criminal Records Report, full identification report, proof of postal address in my home country, a Cambridge Certificate for English proficiency, and of course all my school grades and a “school report of my conduct”. And then I had to physically go to the US Embassy in Athens (carrying my passport) for a personal interview, before I received my Student Visa. The school advisor’s email also stated that the US authorities had the right to request additional information if needed. Nowadays you have NGOs taking care of that stuff for masses of foreign students, in the same way Travel Agencies used to be able to request “a bunch” of tourist visas for groups from the local US embassies. Before my student visa in ’97, I got my first “B1/B2” (tourist/business) visa in 1996, and they requested almost all of the above PLUS a proof of Home Ownership (!) . When I innocently asked why they would ask the latter, an employee told me “ to make sure you have incentive not to leave your country “. The fact that I was married helped. My brother couldn’t get a tourist visa in 1998 (single, no home ownership). The fact that now we see the same foreign agitators in US schools as those responsible for the terrible demonstrations (and burnings) of universities in Greece two and three decades ago, proves that the previous system I experienced is being bypassed by organizations obviously cooperating with university faculty, associations, and the DHS. That’s how it happened in Greece ( and Germany: remember Mohamed Atta? ), and your universities may experience the same fate and lose their high status forever. With all due respect, I would suggest you do more thorough research if you want to pass as an investigational journalist. PS. I forgot to mention that they also asked me of the address I would be staying in the US (in both cases) and US phone number. They don’t just “release you in the wild”. The USA lately has been giving me the impression of a clunky machine, with every component having an unreasonably high tolerance. In the old languages, the legal term for “bordello” is usually “House of Tolerance”, and if Trump sacrifices himself politically for us to see it, so be it. The first thing immigrants notice, is the absence of protective fences in suburban houses (a mark of a high trust society). Open up the borders again, and you’ll have not enough police even in gated communities for what will follow. Trump is right for reacting, but not right for reacting badly. That doesn’t give you an excuse for being reckless in your research. “ vetted by Homeland Security “ is stuff I translate on a regular basis . They want a translated “Criminal Records Report” from the local authorities. These reports though never include misdemeanors. Petty crimes or ordinary arrests (for vandalism or petty drug offenses etc.) never make it in such reports if there are no criminal law convictions. European DOJs almost never issue criminal convictions for political activism (unless of course it’s a major offense such as homicide or intentional arson – while intentional vandalism in political activism is always excused). When I applied for a student visa in 1997 , the school asked me to fax them proof of financial support and resources (Bank accounts and solemn declaration of at least one third party-family member who would guarantee my financial support), Birth Certificate, a Criminal Records Report, full identification report, proof of postal address in my home country, a Cambridge Certificate for English proficiency, and of course all my school grades and a “school report of my conduct”. And then I had to physically go to the US Embassy in Athens for an interview to receive my Student Visa. Self hating statisticians tend to extrapolate and make stupid mistakes. They are blind to small slow changes. The US colleges, instead of exporting Americanism, are dying in frog cooking. Several ME entities export Islam and Muslim Bros via our elite colleges. They re-educate our children to expand Islam. Trump $600 million hit two self hating Jews for protecting pro Palestinians screamers, instead of protecting Jewish students. Trump rules this country, not Biden and his dems. I don’t know why it’s beyond Mish’s ability to accept it and understand ? Read the pinned comment by Terry, You have an extreme case of TDS Type II. Those who disagree with u and 90% of your commentators have an extreme TDS Type II. I deserve death by hanging, like William Joyce – Lord Hawl Hawl, a British & Irish American and a nazi traitor, who served Hitler, spreading anti British props during WWII. People who suffer from heart disease shouldn’t aggravate themselves and pit their readers against each other 2/3 times per day. My comment isn’t about Trump. It’s about Harvard and other elite colleges. My comment is about the Constitution. You and your ilk don’t give a damn if Trump trashes it. Heck, I don’t care for Harvard and I think all funding should be cut off. But Congress approved that funding, not me. You keep responding with total bullshit when this is 1) a constitutional issue and 2) an economic issue and 3) a petty vindictive move by Trump. That you cannot see any of this is proof of TDS type II. Radical libertarian cannot run any country. Harvard leaders didn’t protect Jewish students. Trump is vindictive bc he wants to teach them a lesson. These spineless leaders didn’t do their job. The hate of Jews is growing . Last week two Israeli diplomats were assassinated in DC by a radical pro palestinians. Radical dems judges cannot stop a president. Without the 10% your blog it is pretty boring, especially your childish caricatures. Harvard is doing what Trump is doing, taking in gifts, students, and money from the MIddle East because that’s where the money is at Michael. Those oil rich countries can gift $400 million dollar planes to presidents and universities. It’s all about money and profits. “your blog it is pretty boring, especially your childish caricatures.” Then why are you here everyday posting? I wish he wasn’t. I really must get round to blocking his BS which is always fact laden, unfortunately with incorrect facts. And yet here you (still) are. this guy michael engel is just brutally transparent as a paid shill. i have blocked him many times and his name keeps popping up on each thread. keep up the honest reporting mish. It was Haw Haw, can you ever get any of your facts rights regarding Europe. You have so little credibility left I would respectfully suggest you stop posting and engage in something more productive. I know it’s beyond your pay scale repeat Harvard future world leaders.not the maga crowd, Trump is not a king, he doesn’t rule the country. Hopefully that’s not really what you meant. Brilliant and on point argument by Mish, as always. As for those counting on “Team Trump” to restore “law” and “justice” in America, good luck….just this week – Kristi Noem, Secretary of Homeland Security: Habeas corpus gives Trump the right to remove people from this country.  Foreigners who hate America or Israel have a better chance of getting in than a White or Asian American with a perfect GPA and perfect SAT’s. So that eliminates Harvard as the gatekeeper. The problem won’t go away until Harvard returns to accomplishment based admissions. In other words, NEVER. However, they are screwing themselves in the long run as a Harvard degree will never mean as much as it once did. Good luck getting a real job with a diploma from Harvard. The US is going through dying pains. During this dying process of instability, chaos & corruption someone always rises to try & become a dictator. Famous last words. Apparently, to some folks, the constitution, deficits, and debt only apply when Democrats are in power. (although we still are awaiting Paul and Ringo’s opinion) And they are still alive !!! And working together https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2025/05/06/paul-mccartney-and-ringo-starr-have-set-their-next-collaboration/ It’s so stupid the future queen of Belgium fell into this stupidity. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/23/belgium-future-queen-caught-up-harvard-foreign-student-ban Princess Elisabeth, the 23-year-old future queen of Belgium, has just completed her first year at Harvard University but the ban imposed by Donald Trump’s administration on foreign students studying there could jeopardise her continued attendance. The US president’s administration revoked Harvard’s ability to enrol international students on Thursday, and is forcing current foreign students to transfer to other schools or lose their legal status in the US, while also threatening to expand the crackdown to other colleges. The US president’s administration revoked Harvard’s ability to enrol international students on Thursday, and is forcing current foreign students to transfer to other schools or lose their legal status in the US, while also threatening to expand the crackdown to other colleges. “Princess Elisabeth has just completed her first year. The impact of [the Trump administration’s] decision will only become clearer in the coming days/weeks. We are currently investigating the situation,” said a spokesperson for the Belgian royal palace, Lore Vandoorne. “Princess Elisabeth has just completed her first year. The impact of [the Trump administration’s] decision will only become clearer in the coming days/weeks. We are currently investigating the situation,” said a spokesperson for the Belgian royal palace, Lore Vandoorne. Thanks Added that as an addendum The educational welfare of Belgium nobility is very important us as a nation. Actually it is. Look at the Dollar holdings and U.S. banking relations with Belgium. No but it exemplifies how your nation has embarked on the road to stupidity. She may get creeped out, and not want to return here. There’s always Oxford or Cambridge. “Who Should Be Responsible for Foreign Student Visas?” DHS, right? Or should we let Universities handle student visas? It’s funny how the NYT seems to have the opposite take: How the Trump Administration Has the Upper Hand Against Harvard – The New York Times You are trying to somewhat rationally explain Fat Donnie’s actions. You cannot as he is a senile psychopath. You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.

• • • This took the expected time, less than a day. Temporary Restraining Order Background This morning I reported Trump Stupidly Blocks Harvard From Enrolling Foreign Students Trump’s latest move on Harvard is likely illegal but certainly stupid. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. And Quick It Was The Washington Post reports Judge temporarily blocks effort to ban Harvard from enrolling foreign students . This is a free link. Harvard filed a lawsuit Friday morning after the Department of Homeland Security revoked the school’s certification to enroll international students. The government said Thursday foreign students must transfer from the university or risk losing their visa status, escalating President Donald Trump’s pitched battle with the Ivy League school. “Today’s ruling delays justice and seeks to kneecap the President’s constitutionally vested powers under Article II,” DHS assistant secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in an email. “It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments; that fact hasn’t changed.” She said the Trump administration is committed to “restoring common sense to our student visa system, and we expect a higher court to vindicate us in this. We have the law, the facts, and common sense on our side .” On Friday, just hours after the lawsuit was filed, Judge Allison Burroughs in U.S. District Court in Massachusetts ordered the Trump administration to take no action on the visas while litigation on the matter continues. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem on Thursday had ordered the agency to terminate Harvard’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, which allows U.S. universities to admit international students. Noem said the university has allowed “anti-American, pro-terrorist” foreigners “to harass and physically assault individuals … and obstruct its once-venerable learning environment,” and she accused the university of hosting and training members of the Chinese Communist Party’s paramilitary group. A post-doctoral researcher who spoke on condition of anonymity out of a fear of reprisal to her visa status, said she came to Harvard Medical School to do cancer research because “Harvard is, Boston is, the epicenter of medical research in the world – there’s nothing else like it. … There’s no question too big.” More than half of the people in her lab are international students, she said, and “everyone’s very scared that at any minute they could be deported.” Question of the Day Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts and I cheer the court’s prompt smackdown. Trump Has Idiocracy on his Side Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not even supposed to be sent. The blocking order is temporary, but I fully expect it to become permanent. Trump is petty, vindictive, and economically illiterate in many ways. Banning foreign students on absurd grounds would be a very poor move even if it was legal. Temporary Restraining Order Background This morning I reported Trump Stupidly Blocks Harvard From Enrolling Foreign Students Trump’s latest move on Harvard is likely illegal but certainly stupid. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. And Quick It Was The Washington Post reports Judge temporarily blocks effort to ban Harvard from enrolling foreign students . This is a free link. Harvard filed a lawsuit Friday morning after the Department of Homeland Security revoked the school’s certification to enroll international students. The government said Thursday foreign students must transfer from the university or risk losing their visa status, escalating President Donald Trump’s pitched battle with the Ivy League school. “Today’s ruling delays justice and seeks to kneecap the President’s constitutionally vested powers under Article II,” DHS assistant secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in an email. “It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments; that fact hasn’t changed.” She said the Trump administration is committed to “restoring common sense to our student visa system, and we expect a higher court to vindicate us in this. We have the law, the facts, and common sense on our side .” On Friday, just hours after the lawsuit was filed, Judge Allison Burroughs in U.S. District Court in Massachusetts ordered the Trump administration to take no action on the visas while litigation on the matter continues. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem on Thursday had ordered the agency to terminate Harvard’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, which allows U.S. universities to admit international students. Noem said the university has allowed “anti-American, pro-terrorist” foreigners “to harass and physically assault individuals … and obstruct its once-venerable learning environment,” and she accused the university of hosting and training members of the Chinese Communist Party’s paramilitary group. A post-doctoral researcher who spoke on condition of anonymity out of a fear of reprisal to her visa status, said she came to Harvard Medical School to do cancer research because “Harvard is, Boston is, the epicenter of medical research in the world – there’s nothing else like it. … There’s no question too big.” More than half of the people in her lab are international students, she said, and “everyone’s very scared that at any minute they could be deported.” Question of the Day Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts and I cheer the court’s prompt smackdown. Trump Has Idiocracy on his Side Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not even supposed to be sent. The blocking order is temporary, but I fully expect it to become permanent. Trump is petty, vindictive, and economically illiterate in many ways. Banning foreign students on absurd grounds would be a very poor move even if it was legal. Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. I wrote my first ever blog about this, I would really appreciate if you would check it out. It’s called Young Jury, and it’s a blog written to encourage teenagers to stay informed, ask questions and really understand what’s happening in the legal world around us and how it affects us. Thank you for your time! 🙂 OK – Good Luck Thank you! I see a lot of linear extrapolation of doom and gloom. It appears that subjects of the Empire are its most ardent defenders. Have fun with that. Burroughs holds a losing hand. Judges have wide latitude to issue TROs. But Article III controls foreign entry to the US. Not the courts. CONVERSATION ENDING HERE – MIC DROP, GAME OVER: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/us/video/hartford-school-district-lawsuit-aleysha-ortiz-digvid 1M NQ is < July high. 1M SPX closed above on Fri. If u glue: Feb, Mar and Apr together u get a large red bar which opens at Feb open with a shadow to Feb high. to the top, and a large buying tail from Apr low to Apr close. May, with 4TD to go, is a green inside bar. Feb high minus Apr low is: 1,300, a one year range. Glue 1M NQ Feb, Mar and Apr. May is a green inside bar. Have a cup of green tea and try to reflect on what you are doing with your life. 7,000 students x $85K/Y is a $600,000,000 hit on Woke, Pritzker and Garber for disobeying Trump. still don’t want to address the civil rights act violations with harvard, eh? Is Biden cancer free, too? F**K Harvard,Yale and Columbia, Hamas incubators. The Sinwar bros are dead, but Garber and Pritzker, two self hating Jews, protect a terrorist group, under the banner of freedom. Dr McDougall: 70% of men over 70Y have prostate cancer. Once it spread to the lymph nodes u are gone, but most don’t. Most prostate cancer are harmless for decades, Most men with a pipeline from their dick, or their bladder, through their belly button, to a plastic bottle, die from blood poisoning. Do the Kegel. Build your pelvic floor and maximus muscles. even if u are old, to keep your balance, to prevent falls and incontinent.. Pampers are better and cheaper than a plastic pipeline with fungi and bacteria. That’s more than a Penny for her thoughts. Pritzkers were patron saints of Barrack. Who by the way went to Harvard Law. And who then put Penny in his cabinet. Etc. No worries. Young people will be sewing t-shirts. His view of the world is somewhere between pre-Adam Smith mercantilism, and gated luxury realty infantilism. I BMCC, worked at NASA on a grant, while attending graduate school.  My mentor, was our prof and project manager at Goddard Space Flight Center.   Great memories.  Could be a commie, too. chairman mao zeDon ain’t stupid. he is playing the commie anti intellectual game. also his real goal is just being in world headlines every night. his cult are like the commies in red china in 60s and 70s. they hate landowners and educated…………ironic as hell. the great leap forward with Maga cult of morons. Great Leap Forward fiasco plus Cultural Revolution fiasco. All at once. the red brigades were launched on my birthday in 1966. like the jan 6th commies. The warm embrace of corruption (along with what appear to be legit accusations of civil rights act violations) isn’t a good look. Harvard has been exposed as a cesspool of bigotry, woke nonsense and plagiarism. Hardly an institution worth defending, yet here we are. And anti-semitism, which in my opinion, originates from the desire of University Professors, eternal geeks, to appear as “Rebels”… because this also makes them more attractive to female students (“authority figure + rebel = we might get laid”). My experience from universities tells me it’s 100% sexual – they want to appear younger and rebellious like their students, and get laid like them. They don’t want to be like Leonardo Da Vinci (this requires brains and talent), so they chose Che Guevara. And while they say they are anti-capitalists, Elite Universities are “Top Capitalism” (tax-exempt status + taxpayer funds without accountability). “a fish stinks from the head”, right? Welcome to Harvard, the beacon of higher education. What are your pronouns? If you’re a POC welcome again! If you are white, do you have the requisite guilt for being so? If not, we will work on that for you. Hang your head in shame. But don’t worry, since you will have a Harvard degree, you will make money and gain power and influence, even if you know very little about anything. Knowing things is not important, that’s why we import foreign students, so that they will know things and then we can pay them less for it. But knowing the right people, now that’s the ticket. In my hard science field, speak about pronouns/politics, get disciplined. Even if the college is seen as woke (because of those studying sociology) by the general population of the country. Said by the 1 believing there’s woke ways to solve discrete logarithms or perform study of nuclear physics… A hatred of knowledge in general instead of where it matters. It makes sense that trump hates those that are competent, creative and share knowledge. Trump is old and his brain is not functioning very well. competent! lol! like claudine gay, the plagiarist who still works as a professor at harvard making 900k/year. ok dude, call me when the shuttle lands. “Creative”? No. They just talk about the giants in arts, but they are no artists themselves. That’s why they talk a lot more about Che Guevara than Leonardo Da Vinci. Noam Chomsky et al were praising Pol Pot, and… don’t get me started. But a distinction has to be made between the Liberal Arts professors (who hate the fact that Isokrates was the founder of liberal arts as an establishment, because he was an imperialistic nationalist) and the STEM professors. Some of the latter have proven their competence in the real world. The former have only destroyed art and discourse. In the case of those studying discrete logarithms (a field of encryption), I can confirm you don’t known what you’re speaking about. Or maybe you believe there’s woke way to perform maths which means you have a ʀᴅꜱ (Researchers Derangement Syndrom) Trump needs to be taken to the city dump It’s going to take a while for the “official” economic data to catch up to the damage Trump has done to the economy. Permanently scaring off international students is just one day’s worth of damage. So far we have tourism down, trade down, auto sales down, inflation up, job market getting worse, housing market tanking. The list goes on and on. The financial press is doing its best to spin the news to paint a happy picture, but reality will finally win out and be impossible to cover up. 5.03% Two cases: a) My editor’s daughter from Greece was accepted at Yale (Medical), full scholarship, all expenses paid. They even paid all expenses for her parents to visit her at some point, and asked (!) the parents if they needed a better hotel. She was a good student back in Greece, but not that good. b) I happened to be (according to a secretary) the first student in the history of a certain private university in the US who registered… by fax (from Greece!) back in 1997. No scholarship in my case, I never applied, I worked and paid “out of State tuition” (higher). But I said to myself “why was it so easy?” and I attributed it to my age (28 at the time) and my professional experience. Later on, I discovered that there was a strong bias in favor of foreign students, regardless of grades . The staff in almost all universities would also make it easier for foreign students to enter PhD programs and participate in research. Wake up people. Mish, please don’t be like a stereotypical gullible Scandinavian. The “State Flagship Universities” in Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan have been playing preferential admission out-of-state / higher tuition game for years. I can understand why universities prefer out of State tuition students (more money) such as in my case, but then there are also thousands of cases like (a) above: Full scholarship for “B+” foreign students while ignoring “A” local students . My editor’s daughter was given a scholarship equivalent (as they said) of about 85K per year. Also, a detail I forgot to mention: she didn’t originally apply when she was still in Greece – they sent her (twice) invitation letters! Yale! After graduation she returned to Greece (that was 2 years ago) because she couldn’t stand the woke culture, as she said herself. I met a lot of uni staff through my first fiancée in the US (at the time living in Oak Park IL and participating in plenty of “scholars” gatherings, which I quickly characterized as meetings of closeted alcoholics and pretentious snobs)… and I can tell you almost all suffer from xenomania . They love everything foreign and hate almost everything domestic. My own fiancée at the time had bought a coffee thermos labeled “I’m dating a foreigner” and headed a French conversationalist group. When I told her that the French were the biggest chauvinists in Western Europe, she acknowledged it (she had lived there), but she characterized it as a charming cultural quirk. During a wine tasting, the Portuguese wine seller took me aside and asked me, more or less, “ how can you stand them… I could sell them piss and they would buy it just because it’s foreign “. PS1. My experience with how easy it is for foreign students to be admitted and promoted in US universities, is what’s making me doubt the qualifications of all those Middle Eastern students who all of a sudden end up in PhD programs. PS2. Without anyone telling me, my diagnosis of Americans during my first years was “massive inferiority complex”. You guys are very easy to be put down and made feel bad about yourselves. It’s a bad habit. It is true that some universities make a deal with foreign countries to accept X number of students from them (who might not be the brightest crayons in the box), for which the foreign government pays alot of money, which basically subsidizes education for US students. Aside from that, which is somewhat rare, foreign students don’t get a break. I’ve been in academia for 25 years and hold appointments at three colleges so forgive me for saying I should know. Perhaps your editor’s daughter got a scholarship from some alumnus who set up a scholarship for students from the old country. I can’t think of anything else. Or perhaps your editor’s story is not entirely correct. This is in contrast with case (a) I described above. And I know from the all “foreigner” clubs I’ve participated in my early years, that foreign governments very rarely subsidize studies of their citizens abroad (no European country does it, except for single-digit cases). It’s a lie that Americans have swallowed without anyone investigating it, and as any other unchecked practice, it has become an epidemic . Yes, there are cases of wealthy foreign families who pay out right in cash. But the scholarships of the other ones are ultimately paid by the American Taxpayer. A thorough investigation is needed. Though Universities would never accept it. They want to be subsidized by taxpayer money AND be tax-exempt at the same time. Yeah, but that’s for undergraduates who have to pay out of state tuition which is about 3X what instate students pay, follow the money. As have the UC schools, and despite what CA taxpayers have voted for, they still practice affirmative action. The college scam goes much deeper than NCAA. time to defund state universities with state gov money. let them all be private. /sarc In alot of sciences there are more graduate student slots than there are qualified US applicants. So, foreign students get accepted. Science and engineering grad students are ultimately funded by their dissertation advisors who are going to demand top return on their dollar, which mostly comes from federal research grants. (Grad students get a stipend and tuition from being research assistants for their advisor). They aren’t going to accept anyone just because they come from a foreign country. That is the laziest excuse I have heard today. Well done. Have a cookie. <<just because they come from a foreign country>> Don’t try to reframe the issue. I never said “just because”. I said there’s a strong bias in favor of foreigners, regardless of grades. It’s typical unjustified xenomania (the complex of hillbillies and tyrants). Foreign students are more obedient in their minds, thus more desirable . Aristotle said xenomania was a characteristic of tyrants (since foreigners never challenge local rulers). Personally I have not encountered any other group in American society hating Americans as much as university professors do. And my old English Comp. professor used to engage in intellectual conversations with me (the foreigner) personally and at length, ignoring the other students who were actually the ones needing help with composition. It’s as if English Comp 101 was a field to reconstruct Immanuel Kant (for entertainment purposes, which is the main scope of liberal arts nowadays), and not to help the struggling young American students put two sentences together. However, he taught me something American: “ I understand that in other cultures you use the word “we” all the time, but in America we use “I” – as your beliefs are individual beliefs “. What a double-edge sword, I replied, on the one hand you empower individualism, and on the other hand you discredit one’s view as the opinion of only one person, thus a weak opinion, completely eradicating the concept of common sense. It is good for our trade deficit. It is the same as exporting goods or services. Trump doesn’t get that. Regardless of the ruling, it would be nice if the government would do the right thing all the time and within one day. One. Day. Proves it can be done…so why isn’t it done on anything other than blocking DJT? because even when evil orange man does something that makes sense, their liturgy says he must be impeached. There’s no reasoning with ignorant. When people (and entire nations) feel safe, they engage in petty partisanship. Ever since the US because a nuclear super-power, especially after the fall of the USSR, it also became complacent. It’s human nature. All Americans saw Germany and Japan as a serious threat in the 40s, and partisanship was minimized. Headlines were “US vs. Japan”, not “Reps vs. Dems”. Serious threats made American society a lot more serious in their thinking. The threat of the USSR made Americans ultra serious. Nowadays we feel safe from the outside world, that no matter what we do to our country and countrymen won’t have a serious impact. Universities have become Country Clubs. Everything is partisan, for entertainment purposes. America is living in a corrupted play-land, and it will become serious again only if an outside threat becomes serious. Even though Trump lost (at least temporarily), the damage will last for at least the rest of his administration. If you’re a high school student in any foreign country and you get offers to go to school in the US, Europe, Canada, Asia, or somewhere else and you know it’s a roll of the tantrum dice if you’ll be able to stay in the U.S., you’ll just choose to go elsewhere. As the best and brightest start building an ecosystem powerhouse elsewhere, the US will lose out. France has seized on this and is offering scientists relocation packages to leave the U.S. I expect that to accelerate across the board. https://sciencebusiness.net/international-news/france-creates-platform-attract-us-and-other-disaffected-researchers Got exit strategy? << As the best and brightest >> They’re not always the best and brightest. In many cases they’re the ones not accepted in universities of their own countries or average students who want to enjoy better economic opportunities after graduation. If anyone ever investigates the grades and qualifications by which those students were admitted… It’s to the point that “B” students are admitted even from Asia with scholarships while the local “A” Asians are subjected to racial quotas (even Harvard admits it). I don’t like the level of superficiality of articles in this forum, which was much better in the past. Mish has become something like “reacting to NYT articles” or “reacting to marketing brochures”. Zero level of deeper investigation, and real experiences are shunned by the readers. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for YOU to start your own blog and provide all the detailed research you seem to have. What’s stopping you? Just go to wordpress.com My son is applying for grad school in the UK and Canada. This year basically no one (in physics) was accepted because of the uncertainty in federal research grants so I told him to do that. I get weekly emails from NIH about what funding is available. This is what it says: Funding: No funding is available. This is not a good time to get cancer, kids. Good closing…. you’re on a roll! Can you explain this Atomic Bomb article/video from CNN? https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/us/video/hartford-school-district-lawsuit-aleysha-ortiz-digvid Wait till Harvard’s tax-free statue is removed. If Harvard doesn’t change it will happen. In the meantime the Democrats are again forced to defend tooth and nail woke policies that are unpopular with the public. The students have five months to find another school and most will. If those students applied to other schools on a merit basis, lots of them would not be accepted. And there’s no reason for such schools to be exempted from taxes – and the proof is the size of their endowment funds. I’m amazed at how many cosplay libertarians support tax exempt status for universities accumulating more assets and cash than Warren Buffet. churches and universities should pay taxes. stop funding state u and k through 12 with our tax dollars too. waste of our pocket books. Definitely. I have heard of churches amassing tons of cash without paying taxes, although they are engaged in business activities, just like universities. It’s to the point that I’m thinking of changing my job status from “translator” to “First Catholic Academy of Translations”… 🙂 🙂 I read a good description of the difference between socialists, capitalists and fascists this morning. Socialists want state ownership over the means of production – factories, farms, mines, etc. Capitalists believe in private ownership and control over production. Fascists want to control the means of production but leave it in private ownership. Where does Trump fit? It appears Door number 3 is the winner. 🙂 capitalists. dems are now the 3rd category. Trump is in the third category. Idiocracy to the 9th degree. Garbage in gets you garbage out. All you can do is watch and hope for the best. The whole thing reminds me of the Three Stooges running the government, and Trump is Moe. Can you explain this Atomic Bomb article/video from CNN? https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/us/video/hartford-school-district-lawsuit-aleysha-ortiz-digvid Before the election we were told by the anti Trump crowd how he would act like a dictator and so far he has proven them right. However, what no one seems to take notice of, is how resilient our system is in preventing a president from becoming an actual dictator. But didn’t he say that he would be a dictator for only one day? You can’t believe anything that Trump says! Let’s call the first five months of the Trump administration what it is: an affront to the Constitutionally designed governing balance of power and a running series of full frontal abuses of power. Pretty sure that was the Biden administration… My question is why do tax payers have to support these universities just to have these universities turn around and deny their own people admission. But they are more happy to accept the increased tuition from the foreign countries. Sorry, but that is flat out wrong. You want to do that …. then no tax payer money then. The government does not support “these Universities,” the government funds grant requests from those graduate students at these universities who are conducting medical, physics, and technological research that is the very foundation of the technology innovation and medical breakthrough innovation that has made our modern lives that way they are and has probably saved the lives of people you know. Aww shucks, who needs all this fancy shmancy books and learnin’ in the first place… A little horse paste will fix jes about anything you sound like you need Pfizer’s new combo pack of booster #8 with some TDS gummies. Which aisle at tractor supply is that? I but all my meds there as well as my wife’s feed Thank God. Finally someone who understands how research vs. education gets funded. I’ll point out it’s not just grad students of course, professors and scientists at colleges generally get some or all of their salary from research grants. At R1 universities, which are roughly the 100 biggest colleges in the US, 80-90% of the actual work done is research. Education is a very small piece of the pie and is funded by state taxes (for public schools) and tuition. Example: the small college I went to developed ways of creating extremely transparent glass, funded by federal research grants. This was before the internet and at the time it didn’t seem to be a big deal; the work was done to see if nuclear waste could be dissolved into glass that would be safe for disposal for millions of years, the transparency was part of the path to that. But, it made fiber optics possible and hence the internet. No corporation would have done this sort of research, there was not really any particular reason to think it would have paid off at the time. But there you go. High speed (non-dial up 54K baud) internet for about five million bucks. I’d call that a bargain. Multiply that by a thousand and you see what taxpayers’ returns on federally funded college research look like. It is a private university. They do get funds from the federal government for research and other activities. Even the state universities are mostly supported by state funds. Harvard has an endowment fund exceeding 50 million. I guess their “research” is on how much cash they can accumulate. Universities don’t spend their endowments – they invest them, and spend just the earnings. That way, the endowments last in perpetuity. You are confusing research with admissions. They are separate. Tax dollars go to the universities for science research. Since WWII the US government has subbed out it’s research to Universities to perform instead of hiring and maintaining its own large research laboratories. This research is what has allowed the USA to be a leader in technology. (Yes i know pell grants and some federal money goes to schools to help pay for admissions, but that is peanuts compared to the research money) I am also a contractor that has done work at another Ivy League research university. The construction and renovation of labs has fed my family and housed them for many years. There is a whole construction industry that this supports as well in the building, maintaining, and renovating of lab spaces. I know how the removing of the funds would effect the surrounding economies as well. Matt: Ditto. Please read my entry above. Because I have experience and some insight on the matter. Bingo. If Harvard wants to fly the Qatari flag, promote academic frauds and put a keffieyeh – today’s swastika – on the library, they should be allowed to do that. But no federal funding, no students taking federally guaranteed loans and no research dollars. They need to stop their whining and decide if they think the civil rights act of 64 is worth abiding by or continuing to treat it like a roll of softness and absorbency. I am not taking a position on Trump either way. A sizable percentage of high tech foreign students get trained in the USA with our cutting edge knowledge and then return to work in their country. How many of them become direct competitors to the USA? Do you think countries like China allow USA students to learn their latest tech? I personally know quite a number of Chinese students who attended schools like MIT, Cal-Tech, Stanford and Univ of Berkeley who returned to China after graduating and set up high tech companies that sell to the USA. Maybe I am dense, but that has always bothered me. There are no business competitors to the USA or any country. That is a Mercantilist view of economics that Trump is trying to make relevant again. We opted for free markets and capitalism in the US. They may produce a company that is a threat to a US based company, but that is a completely different thing and has nothing to do with the US government. There is nothing at MIT, Cal-Tech, Stanford or any other university that you can’t find online. There is no such thing as “our cutting edge knowledge.” Most of these schools offer their entire curriculum online for free, all you have to do is look for it. Here is MIT’s coursework. https://ocw.mit.edu/ What the “degree” entails you are network connections and street-cred that you attended the university and passed. For the really intelligent, you get research grants to experiment. It won’t matter much more anyway once AI is able to absorb and spit out the knowledge of the entire world in a matter of seconds. Speaking of which on a pre-weekend Friday, this should be considered mandatory reading: AI 2027 Daniel Kokotajlo, Scott Alexander, Thomas Larsen, Eli Lifland, Romeo Dean Daniel Kokotajlo, Scott Alexander, Thomas Larsen, Eli Lifland, Romeo Dean We predict that the impact of superhuman AI over the next decade will be enormous, exceeding that of the Industrial Revolution. We predict that the impact of superhuman AI over the next decade will be enormous, exceeding that of the Industrial Revolution. We wrote a scenario that represents our best guess about what that might look like. It’s informed by trend extrapolations, wargames, expert feedback, experience at OpenAI, and previous forecasting successes. We wrote a scenario that represents our best guess about what that might look like. It’s informed by trend extrapolations, wargames, expert feedback, experience at OpenAI, and previous forecasting successes. https://ai-2027.com/ https://ai-2027.com/ Finally, AI will make accurate weather forecasts…for the weekend. OK – What do you think would happen if a USA tech student in China managed to learn some of their highest tech? My guess is they would be branded a spy. That wouldn’t happen to start because China would never let a foreign student take a course like that. I am “mostly” free market, but I have been personally involved in a company where the USA owners sold out to the Chinese. That company had a dominant USA market share and technology that China did not have. Now, the USA workers are down by 75%, the USA suppliers are down 75%, the quality of the products is sold is not the same. The previous USA owners have their own private 7 person jet with 3 full time pilots and a lot of money. Thier old company employees, vendors and customers are worse off. Is what it is. I don’t have an answer for an easy fix. why don’t you own a company and do as you please. your owners did as they pleased. trump is a commie. like chairman mao I do own my own company. I also recognize that there is more to life than just what is good for me. Would you want to live in a world where there are no rules? A nation is made of laws. I happen to disagree with a lot of them, but doesn’t mean I can do whatever I please. Would you want to live in the wild west where the strongest person makes the rules? I am mostly a libertarian. But there are limits. You wouldn’t want to live in a world of anarchy. And we do have some responsibility besides are own selfish interests. At least that’s how I live my life. So yeah, I own my business. I make my own rules. If an employee needs an advance paycheck or asks to use the facilities to fix their car on the weekend, I do it. I don’t have to . I expose myself to some liability. But I am not a dick either. B.S. that 100% of the tech work done at those universities is totally open. Do you really think there is no classified work done there? Do you think they share everything that isn’t classified? Of course not. Sure, there is lots of open information available. But why do you think the students attend those universities anyhow if they can just get it all online for free? But why do you think the students attend those universities anyhow if they can just get it all online for free? You’ve been watching too many spy movies. Yes, it’s mostly free and all there, go and look. You are naive if you think everything they do is online, accurate and free. Maybe you should try it. Have you ever tried to reproduce the results of a published scientific paper on something that is truly novel? I have. They always leave something out or put in some incorrect information. No, you’re just not smart enough to follow instructions or adapt if there is indeed something missing. But I also do think there is a bit of fraud in many of those scientific papers as well which may be another reason you can’t replicate something. another fan of remote learning has entered the chat. as a lifelong college student. attended ivy and stanford and community colleges and state u coast to coast. the elite schools are more a breeding and dating service. meet elites from all over globe for life long connections. that’s the real deal. my kids went ivy too. if you don’t get this, it is for the best. you’d make a great central planner. run the world according to your wishes. It doesn’t have to be one extreme or the other. You can be mostly libertarian with a few guard rails. You would not want to live in a world without them. I am *not* saying that we should have more laws. We have too many as it is. But we don’t want to have no laws either. If you see an old lady struggling lifting something, do you ignore it since you can? Or do you help? You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.

• • • Trump’s latest move on Harvard is likely illegal but certainly stupid. US Bans Harvard From Enrolling Foreigners, Forcing Transfers Bloomberg reports US Bans Harvard From Enrolling Foreigners, Forcing Transfers The US revoked Harvard’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, meaning foreign students can no longer attend the university. Existing international students must transfer or lose their legal status, the Department of Homeland Security said Thursday. The blockade on international student enrollment will compound the financial pressures for Harvard. The Trump administration has frozen more than $2.6 billion of Harvard’s funding and cut off future grants in an increasingly contentious standoff over the school’s handling of alleged antisemitism on campus and government demands for more oversight. Trump has also called for the institution to lose its tax-exempt status, a move that the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based school has cautioned would have “grave consequences for the future of higher education in America.” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem in April demanded Harvard submit records of any violent or illegal activity by foreign students by April 30 or immediately lose certification under the federal government’s student visa program. At Harvard almost 6,800 students – 27% of the entire student body — come from other countries, up from 19.6% in 2006, according to the university’s data. Question of the Day Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts. Letter to Harvard The Department of Homeland Security issued this notice on Harvard: Harvard University Loses Student and Exchange Visitor Program Certification for Pro-Terrorist Conduct WASHINGTON – Today, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered DHS to terminate the Harvard University’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification. This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status. Harvard’s leadership has created an unsafe campus environment by permitting anti-American, pro-terrorist agitators to harass and physically assault individuals, including many Jewish students, and otherwise obstruct its once-venerable learning environment. Many of these agitators are foreign students. Harvard’s leadership further facilitated, and engaged in coordinated activity with the CCP, including hosting and training members of a CCP paramilitary group complicit in the Uyghur genocide. “This administration is holding Harvard accountable for fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party on its campus,” said Secretary Noem. “It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments. Harvard had plenty of opportunity to do the right thing. It refused. They have lost their Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification as a result of their failure to adhere to the law. Let this serve as a warning to all universities and academic institutions across the country.” … Noem cites no law, regulation, or policy for her actions. The letter Noem sent to Harvard cites no law violated, no regulation broken, no policy ignored; just a threat to punish Harvard for their refusal to hand over FIVE YEARS of video of every student protest at the university, among other things. THAT is weaponization of government. https://t.co/u7HcVkorBK — Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) May 22, 2025 Appearing on Fox News, Noem said the administration is considering blocking international enrollment at other universities. “This should be a warning to every other university to get your act together,” said Noem. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Returning to Bloomberg In addition to Harvard itself, a ban on international enrollment also threatens to have sweeping implications for the broader Massachusetts economy and a regional ecosystem that thrives off the university’s existence. International students don’t just pay tuition to Harvard; they also spend money on restaurants and other activities and many of them stay in the area to work at the state’s prestigious hospitals, research institutions and biotechnology companies . This action continues the Trump Administration’s assault on free speech and university autonomy, said Robert Shireman, a former deputy undersecretary of education in the Obama administration, who’s now a senior fellow at the Century Foundation. “International scholars bring enormous benefits to America,” Shireman said. “This is a malicious attempt to chill the exchange of ideas, instead imposing centralized control of scientific and historical study.” Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not supposed to be sent. It’s sickening. US Bans Harvard From Enrolling Foreigners, Forcing Transfers Bloomberg reports US Bans Harvard From Enrolling Foreigners, Forcing Transfers The US revoked Harvard’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, meaning foreign students can no longer attend the university. Existing international students must transfer or lose their legal status, the Department of Homeland Security said Thursday. The blockade on international student enrollment will compound the financial pressures for Harvard. The Trump administration has frozen more than $2.6 billion of Harvard’s funding and cut off future grants in an increasingly contentious standoff over the school’s handling of alleged antisemitism on campus and government demands for more oversight. Trump has also called for the institution to lose its tax-exempt status, a move that the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based school has cautioned would have “grave consequences for the future of higher education in America.” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem in April demanded Harvard submit records of any violent or illegal activity by foreign students by April 30 or immediately lose certification under the federal government’s student visa program. At Harvard almost 6,800 students – 27% of the entire student body — come from other countries, up from 19.6% in 2006, according to the university’s data. Question of the Day Q: Why does it make any sense at all to stop 6,000 enormously talented people who want to come to the United States to study, from having that opportunity? A: This is vicious. It is illegal. It is unwise. And it is very damaging. Q&A by Larry Summers. I agree on all counts. Letter to Harvard The Department of Homeland Security issued this notice on Harvard: Harvard University Loses Student and Exchange Visitor Program Certification for Pro-Terrorist Conduct WASHINGTON – Today, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered DHS to terminate the Harvard University’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification. This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status. Harvard’s leadership has created an unsafe campus environment by permitting anti-American, pro-terrorist agitators to harass and physically assault individuals, including many Jewish students, and otherwise obstruct its once-venerable learning environment. Many of these agitators are foreign students. Harvard’s leadership further facilitated, and engaged in coordinated activity with the CCP, including hosting and training members of a CCP paramilitary group complicit in the Uyghur genocide. “This administration is holding Harvard accountable for fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party on its campus,” said Secretary Noem. “It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments. Harvard had plenty of opportunity to do the right thing. It refused. They have lost their Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification as a result of their failure to adhere to the law. Let this serve as a warning to all universities and academic institutions across the country.” … Noem cites no law, regulation, or policy for her actions. The letter Noem sent to Harvard cites no law violated, no regulation broken, no policy ignored; just a threat to punish Harvard for their refusal to hand over FIVE YEARS of video of every student protest at the university, among other things. THAT is weaponization of government. https://t.co/u7HcVkorBK Appearing on Fox News, Noem said the administration is considering blocking international enrollment at other universities. “This should be a warning to every other university to get your act together,” said Noem. Trump is holding 6,800 innocent kids in his stupid power play with Harvard. Returning to Bloomberg In addition to Harvard itself, a ban on international enrollment also threatens to have sweeping implications for the broader Massachusetts economy and a regional ecosystem that thrives off the university’s existence. International students don’t just pay tuition to Harvard; they also spend money on restaurants and other activities and many of them stay in the area to work at the state’s prestigious hospitals, research institutions and biotechnology companies . This action continues the Trump Administration’s assault on free speech and university autonomy, said Robert Shireman, a former deputy undersecretary of education in the Obama administration, who’s now a senior fellow at the Century Foundation. “International scholars bring enormous benefits to America,” Shireman said. “This is a malicious attempt to chill the exchange of ideas, instead imposing centralized control of scientific and historical study.” Services Surplus The US runs a goods trade deficit, but a services surplus with most of the world. Higher education is a big part of the US services surplus. US students get scholarships and financial aid. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. The US should welcome the best and brightest minds in the world to study here. Instead, Trump threatens to kick them out. In doing so, he is single-handedly destroying America’s research base. Why? Harvard bruised Trump’s fragile ego by not kissing his ass. Please recall this all started in April when The Letter to Harvard Setting Off Trump Confrontation Was a Mistake Oops, the letter was a mistake. I expect the courts to quickly squash this obvious idiocy. Trump has truly lost it … again. Trump is taking a US international competitive advantage and pissing on it to satisfy a personal vendetta against Harvard that started with a letter that was not supposed to be sent. It’s sickening. Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. Mish ; Your blinded by you’re own bias. Our Colleges cannot continue doing the same radical liberal causes. They suck off my tax dollars , and we allow foreigners to come here protesting hate etc. Tax these Colleges Endowments to change the bad behavior. No more Fed money to support this crap no more state money to state universities. waste of my taxes. Is it possible that “Trump Stupidly….” is redundant? There is no right to a Student Visa. There is no right to grant money. There is no right to govt Student Loan guarantees. End all of these arrangements with any institution that practices overt Racism or Sexism ie DEI programs and anti-Title IX policies which allow males to obtain benefits intended for women by Title IX ie Scholarships, Sports Competition, not to mention the common sense policy of female only space like bathrooms and locker rooms. trump said = SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH AGAINST Zionist REGIME IN Israel= by foreign students in Harvard! if any person IN HARVARD terrifies any jew on campus physically , he must be arrested and possibly thrown out from country. dont have problem w/, as long as EXISTS DUE PROCESS If Hollywood makes a movie about this era, it will be called The Revenge of the Unwashed. For decades the unwashed have watched their jobs shipped offshore, replaced by foreign workers, and train their replacements while the Harvard types cooked up esoteric economic theories saying how good it was for them. I think we can all agree that Noem has an IQ less than 50. She should stick to what she does best – killing innocent animals for pleasure. As i recall, she didn’t lock down during Covid. She was smarter than all who did. no need to lock down in rural areas. amerika should have just made fat folks lock down Smart? I was in NYC in 2020. Two people close to me died. Yes, they were older. A neighbor in his 60s died. Two people I knew in their 20s died. Three friends got long COVID. One got so sick in March 2020, he thought he was going to die. I have no proof, but I think that is how he developed aggressive kidney cancer two years later. Trump made a perfectly legal and fair request to Harvard – stop discriminating on the basis of race, and in particular, stop discriminating against Jews. Harvard said no way. So here they are. lie! lie! lie! trump said = SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH AGAINST Zionist REGIME IN Israel= by foreign students in Harvard! you should Google 1st amendment. ==== btw, if any person IN HARVARD terrifies any jew on campus physically , he must be arrested and possibly thrown out from country. dont have problem w/, as long as EXISTS DUE PROCESS you should google due process too. alx You really don’t believe that, do you? It sure seems like he does. Good for Steve. Mao ZeDON is acting like most left wing dictators of history. =Mao ZeDON  good one usually i type chairman mao zeDon. he really is like Mao. going after educated and elites and propping up dumbfucks. really left wing commie playbook. Harvard’s “White Man Last” policy is outrageous. DOGE, clean that up! I’m an old guy from third world country. Whatever it is – Thanks Trump, you stop the brain drain from our countries even if it is not reverse brain drain. Whether he’s doing it intentionally or not, probably not, every time he gets the courts to rule against one of his “popular” executive orders he uses it to weaken support for judges and consolidate power with DJT. FAFO Harvard didn’t play ball so they lost a privilege. Now they can educate more promising American students: WASHINGTON – Today, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered DHS to terminate the Harvard University’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification. This means Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students and existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status. SEVP stands for the Student and Exchange Visitor Program. It’s a program within U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), managed by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), that oversees and manages foreign students and exchange visitors in the United States. SEVP is also responsible for the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), a database that tracks this information. Purpose: SEVP’s main function is to ensure that international students and exchange visitors are complying with U.S. immigration laws and regulations. Seems like a slam dunk to me. Foreign students pay the full sticker price. While they are not eligible for government benefits like Pell grants, they do get scholarships from Harvard. “If you want to know who rules over you, look at who you’re not allowed to criticize. “ George Orwell. 1338 days left for the pyromaniac in the fuel depot to keep playing with matches. Just waiting for the match to ignite some floating vapors and watch it all go boom. Got exit strategy? The Great Taking doesn’t allow for an exit strategy. Too much counter party risk. JP Morgan laid claim to the account holders money at MF Global. The GM bond holders got screwed. Stocks people think they own are in Street Name. It’s the bank’s money, once deposited. The account holder has no more than a claim. Something is up, if gold is going from a tier 3 asset to tier 1 and central banks are buying up supply. This is a fun thread today. God King Trump vs. the evil minions of Harvard the Great Satan! we should stop all taxpayer funding of higher ed. all state universities shuttered. also, k to 12 is really a luxury. let the middlebrows and lumpenproles work You might be jesting but what you say is actually correct. Taxpayers should not be paying for any educational institution including schools. Pay for your own kids, or if you want you can give money to fund scholarships. It’s unjust that home schoolers make sacrifices for their own kids and are then forced to pay for government schools that employ mostly leftist dullards teaching DEI. Also most people don’t realise that it’s inherently racist to force taxpayers to pay for others when those taxpayers might not have children in the country. Being n a mixed race marriage I have plenty of relatives back in Africa that I’ve helped with school expenses. Hard to do that properly when the money I have available has already had a chunk taken to school well off white kids. “If you think education is expensive, try ignorance”. I have childless friends who whine about having to pay taxes for schools. Of course, it’s my children, raised at tremendous expense to myself, that will pay for their social security. So far, none of them has offered to write me a check for ensuring their financial security in their doddering old age. Another thing: nearly all the $$ going to colleges from the federal government is for funding research. A few cents go to DEI-related education stuff, but aside from that education is funded by state taxes (for state colleges) and tuition. The research $$ goes for stuff like cures for cancer, fiber optics invention (internet) etc etc, that corporations simply would never fund: they need to make money. So, when Trump talks about eliminating federal money for colleges, he’s not talking about cutting education subsidies, he’s talking about research dollars, which has made US higher education the wonder of the world and has paid back taxpayers a hundred times over. Except SS is supposed to be a trust fund where your friend will be currently paying into and will be available when they retire. Problem is that both sides have been using that money so it isn’t really there. Government needs to reduced to a much smaller size doing a few tasks. Protect the border (military, ICE), run the legal system, run the embassies, set standards and manage common property such as roads, parks,, waterways, the air and oceans. Getting the government involved in providing schools, hospitals, insurance and loans is what has lead to big government and the debt/deficit mess. i was following the logic. i think it is stupid really. if you don’t know the reason for the public schools i suggest a little deep dive. it’s quite interesting. the real story. but alas we can really go full commie and make all the elites work the fields. i know chinese doctors who were forced to do that. very stupid. It’s all about owning the libs. No. The lowbrow conservative media personalities spin it that way and unsophisticated conservatives (which is not all of them) see it that way. The truth is it’s about following the orders of radical Zionists who cannot brook any criticism of Israel. They argue that student critics of Israel have been inciting violence but have presented zero evidence of that claim. They say that Jewish students feel unsafe but ignore that many of the student protestors have been Jewish. Israel has been indiscriminately killing Palestinians and starving them and the response in the US has been to talk about the supposed rise of antisemitism. You could not make this shit up. It’s like Norm Macdonald’s joke that his biggest fear is that ISIS would kill millions of Americans with a dirty bomb – because the blowback against innocent Muslims would be terrible. fuck zionism. they started as total terrorists and now have moved into being nazis. ironic as hell. i love jews. hate zionists. as do many of my hasidic jew neighbors agree here in brooklyn. You said: “ They argue that student critics of Israel have been inciting violence but have presented zero evidence of that claim.” – I guess you missed the two murders in WA DC this week at a Jewish function by a guy yelling “free Palestine?” The murders were congratulated by Hamas and other terrorist groups. That doesn’t mean student protesters are responsible. The shooter was born in the USA to a father that fought for the USA in Iraq. He’s a 31-year-old that got his English degree from the University of Illinois. It’s not the fault of foreign students that an American citizen, born in the USA and raised by an American “war hero”, committed a double homicide. The father actually killed more innocent people than the son, as hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, mostly civilians, were killed in the American wars conducted there at the urging of Benjamin Netanyahu, the same Netanyahu that sponsored Hamas for decades. http://www.x.com/BowesChay/status/1841987112175825217 bingo. nothing more. and headlines (Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose) Well maybe Harvard can moved to Iran , to Have the Freedom to Educate the World’s youth! Nothing screams socialism like having the government censor a private university and tell them who they can enroll. Always the victims. Yeah, the visas which foreign students receive are not Harvard’s to give. Goes through the State Department And apparently the State Department does the bidding of the Israel lobby. It’s fucking embarrassing. Every American who doesn’t have dual citizenship should be ashamed at American subservience to a foreign country. Funny because Biden’s cabinet was the most Jewish ever. Jewish politics is not a monolith. Inside of Israel, its savagely divided. Jews here who are Zionist and not Zionist, including the monied interests and Wall Street oligarchs. Or the orthodox Jews who voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Why bring up that old coot Biden? I didn’t vote for him. Biden did the bidding of his overlords too. It’s why the Yemenis were getting bombed during his presidency too. http://www.x.com/revolutionaryem/status/1748051556329509089 There is no right to a Student Visa, or any visa for that matter. If this stands, it will pretty much ruin higher education in America. But maybe that’s the goal after all. Who needs higher education given that Trump knows it all? Add to this Trump’s unpredictable, erratic, and illegal decisions, and you get a feeling for how it feels like to live in places like Russia, Iran, and North Korea. And the MAGA crowd thinks this is great! If you lived in any of said places a black van would have whisked you away long ago. Assuming your an actual person. We are getting there faster than you think. But I assume you are happy about that. = you get a feeling for how it feels like to live in places like Russia, Iran, and North Korea ====== another mo1ron who blithers about things he has no idea! life in Russia is pretty much steady. as long as you dont shout =remove government AND GLORY FOR REVOLUTION= ON each corner, you will be fine! ===== Russia is much safer and more free than USA now.! nobody will tell you child about penises in school , or teach one in 4th grade how to masturbate ! and NO GAYS .. on tv, or real life. alx The Russians may also have a Green Card lottery; go for it! Harvard and other Ivy league schools have for generations been the source for personnel of the Democrat Administrative State in DC.Some Foreign Students also enter this stream of Federal Agency employment as they meet requirements. One must ask do these Alumni favor their Alma Maters in Grants and their home countries in foreign policies? Harvard’s medical area had over $700 million in federal grants this year (highest of all schools) Trade tariffs have favored foreign countries until exposed recently. Harvard’s medical area had over $700 million in federal grants this year (highest of all schools) Trade tariffs have favored foreign countries until exposed recently. Do you think the $700 million went to pay for people to get their MD degrees? No, it’s for research. Cures for cancer and other diseases we’ll all get if we live long enough. Neither corporations nor the government itself, except for a few agencies like NASA and NIH, are set up for or capable of doing the scientific research which has immeasurably improved the lives of everyone on this planet, more so for Americans than anyone else. YOU are mistaken—most successful research springs from privately sponsored work not government grants. Grants include pay for the researchers institutions materials etc. Government grants must be of interest to the government committees that award the grants as well. Like Climate Change–to get a grant in this area guess what you must support– I get it. You have a seething hatred of Trump that consumes every fiber of your body and soul, and like Vegans and Cross Fitters, you live to spread your sentiments onto everyone you encounter. It’s fine for someone to have opinions. It’s not fine to broadcast them when uninvited. I used to really enjoy your work. I hope one day that you choose to go back to that. I never changed – You caught TDS I am a free market Libertarian and Trump is a moron Moreover, you fail to notice when I openly approve of things Trump does. Like yesterday with the NLRB. So get a grip on the problem – Your TDS agree with you mish. keep up your honest work. this empire is dying and the people are losing their shit. I totally agree with Mish. jesus! if you dont like it , just switch channel george carlin! The “safe and effective” narrative collapsed on camera during an explosive Senate hearing on COVID-19 vaccine injuries Wednesday afternoon exposing how the government deliberately hid vaccine harms from the public.. In the first six months, the toll was 384,270 reports of adverse events , 4,812 deaths , and 1,736 of those occurred within just 48 hours of injection . https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1rmxPyqrLMYKN It was a bioweapon. Whether it was intentionally released, and by whom, only question remaining. A random 50% tariff on the EU eight days from now is sure to fix this and everything else The EU wants to keep the war in UKR going, they are going to pay more. Harvard’s endowment is $53bn. The so called beacon of education is an oligarch. Poor Harvard. Your rampant anti-intellectualism is wishing ill on America’s ability to compete on the global stage. Why do we want to weaken our education system while offering a golden opportunity to all non-American universities? Do you really hate people who are not Americans that much? Harvard is a shit show. Tear down false idols. You have fallen prey to marketing and bullshit. Which itself is an indictment of so called higher education. don’t like harvard, don’t apply. Is Harvard a prestigious institution, is that what you would like to protect? Its prestige as a common good? It might interest you to know that the etymology of the word “prestige” literally means a magic trick or illusion. Following from this, Harvard is a hotbed of jugglers and clowns. Which is perfectly apt. Intellectualism???? ROFLMAO!!!! They think men can get pregnant!!!! Intellectualism! That’s real funny! DEMOCRACY TRULY WORKS PERFECTLY.   Trump is committing national sucide.  From tariff wars to cutting off our huge comparative advantage like universities to cutting off medical care which will backfire and bankrupt rural county hospitals…………DEMOCRACY WORKS.  AMERIKANS HAVE BEEN COMMITTING SUICIDE FOR DECADES.  FIGURATIVELY AND METAPHORICALLY. when you use phrases like “Amerikans” it belies your political beliefs and shows a knack for jingoism. pax dumbfuckistan is filled with morons. democracy works. always has. amerika no different. Vote stupid, we become stupid It’s like Mish does not understand how to fight a war. This is a significant hit to all liberal northeast universities. Even if ruled unconstitutional eventually by some court. The Federal government has massive power and sway. We all know you do not fight the Federal Reserve when investing and Harvard is learning that Trump populism is this generation’s pendulum swing Why is Trump trying to destroy the USA from within? As if the greatest research institution in US history is somehow a cancer. That’s the dumbest idea. They’re not bright people, Rando. I think we all know this, including themselves, which is why they’re so angry about something like Harvard! A Harvard degree is great for social networking in the professions. Meanwhile, the social engineers have taken extreme measures of fictionalizing even biological realities, foisting ill conceived notions of Marxism, which by the way were ill conceived by Marx himself. The superficiality of what wokeness presents would deeply disturb old Karl. $700M in medical research can get better results at better universities.Etc. Sounds lovely – we now condone a government crushing organisations because of a personal dislike, not a broken law. The USA is rapidly declining into lawlessness. And a lot of people are cheering it on because they like who is impacted by this lawlessness and abuse of power. I’m amazed at the stupidity and short sightedness of removing Harvard’s access to international students. Having the world’s best universities is a privilege (not a right) of the United States, and the administration is squandering that. Having global elites at elite is also a mechanism to brainwash them into worshipping America. From a purely imperialistic perspective, it is advantageous for the US to educate global elites. Now I’m sure some of these will now just send their kids to Duke, Yale, etc, but this will likely encourage some of them to instead go to Nanjing or Heidelberg. This also applies to currently enrolled students, it’s cruel and will trash the reputation of the entire American university system. Students that are already here should be permitted to finish their degrees. I’ll state that I’m an academic with a poor impression of Harvard as an institution who in the abstract supports the federal government incentivizing reforms. But that’s not what this. I believe and assume that this is almost certainly due to pressure from Zionist mega donors. Bill Ackman for example has been regularly blasting Harvard and Columbia on his Twitter feed. to move a boulder, one must use leverage. Or dynamite. Just sayin. only 2 things support dying empire – foreigners and printing dollar! alx so many fighting for the “honor” of being amongst the few educated in a dying empire. Because you wish a thing so, does not make it so. = “honor” of being amongst the few educated in a dying empire. honor? those students are IN FOR MONEY. USA IS STILL #2 ECONOMY IN WORLD? buddy, what are talking about didn’t you read the comment,its a dying empire no one wants to be here or wants a visa to get an education here. Why is Harvard fighting over non-existent students who are fleeing a dying empire? of so his line of reasoning goes. I admit I cannot understand how the mentallly ill think, so I may have misinterpreted simple hysteria into an actual logical thought train. suggest you interrogate the original poster to understand. I was positing that in foreign lands they fight for the honor and prividedge of an American college degree. And pay a premium to do so… sergey brin (=google), or current ceo of Google , or current ceo of Microsoft, or richest man in world (=mask) WERE all NOT BORN in usa. ======== it is j1ews and indians and chinese who run USA 21th century economy. only 2 things supports dying empire – foreigners and printing dollar! alx you mistake leadership as welling up from the corporate fount, but the corporations are as dead as a forest in winter without the bankers. It is bankers who run the world’s economy of which the USA is a large participant. The dying empire is your dream, the vain wish the world to die with them. The wise realize the world evolves, changes and goes on with or without them. = The dying empire is your dream, the vain wish the world to die with them. blah blah blah!! usa debt is 37 trln 2 trln yearly deficit and 1+ trln to serve debt, per year buddy, get lost. i dont have time for UNEDUCATED FO11OLS alx These folks are a bunch anti-Semites. Turns out the 1992 movie “School Ties” staring Brendan Frasier is not far off the mark after all. Yes, because rounding up and deporting foreign college students en masse is a great way to fight anti-semitism. Maybe go ask a few Jewish friends how they feel about this idea before you open your mouth next time. How about not assuming he didn’t, dingus Sorry teacher, the antisemites ate my homework. trump is a schizo cult leader of morons. like mao and charlie manson family and moonies. he’s slowly committing national suicide live on teeeeeeveeee. harvard, tariffs it’s endless……………… when all you own is a television, apparently everything that occurs is a television show. Suggest you widen you information resources and seek context for the events you stumble across. you are cult member no different from the acid head manson family. never change. i find it amusing as all fuck. Once again Mish, put on a skirt…your TDS is showing, and it isn’t pretty. or you can just go fu111ck yourself! ==== it is not TDS, it is your boyfriend saggy man tits in mirror I can see it from 12 time zones distance! alx Ladies, try to be nice to each other, at least in public…. TDS is what you say when you have no substance in your argument Exactly Mish. Just accept your Orange Overlord and cheer on the demise of the rule of law! The government is finally doing what it should be doing: breaking the law to crush people that are “not our kind of people”! And those people even think Freedom of Speech means that you can give an opinion that’s not ours without being persecuted! What are you complaining about Mish! /sarc = trump, new hissyfit in his post instead of $250 bil trade deficit w/ europe, he posted $250 mil what a moro11n! Why would it be an issue if more Americans attended Harvard rather than foreigners? Why does the US government spend so much tax money on Harvard to educate foreign students? Trump is correct. = Americans USA red necks??? hhahhahahah!!! when did you last time CHECK avg SCORE for schoolers of world, or results of world science Olympics? in programming it is Russians and Chinese, for example ======= should i mention that sergey brin (=google), or current ceo of Google , or current ceo of Microsoft, or richest man in world (=mask) WERE all NOT BORN in usa? ======== it is j1ews and indians and chinese who run USA 21th century economy. only 2 things supports dying empire – foreigners and printing dollar! alx If the Chinese and Russians are so smart, why do they all live in authoritarian regimes? Lol. = russia, china and democracy in usa hahahahah!! it is good one. OBV YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN! ========= you would know about russia/china and why if opened once in while hist book! but it seems you are so stup11id, so you think regime in Russia is so diff from USA ! === btw, how is you vaccine’s shot doing? any side affects ? at least in Russia there is saying : severity of law is in reverse to ability for gov to force one.! and believe me , it is true. alx ps cant say much about china, but judging progress of china for 30 years , it would say it is ok. btw, when DID USA BUILD NEW AIRPORT last time ? or how is that speed train in California? still after 10 years building 1st mile?? LOL!!!!!!! If you have some spare time, you should try to get acquainted with facts. Foreign students are almost always paying full tuition and they are cross-subsidizing the American students. Besides that, the average foreign student is brighter than the average American student, and that’s why Harvard wants them. Last time I checked foreign students tuition did absolutely nothing to subsidize American students. Have you looked at the cost curve of tuition in the last 3 decades ? Why exactly does Harvard receive 2.2 billion from the US government ? F that. These folks are a bunch of Anti- Semites . I say, pull it all. they are all anti Zionists. it is diff. you should read books , or travel outside local county or find who who were founders of Israel, or last name of netanyahu! for example or golda meir israel was founded by violent terrorists. ask the british about hotel bombings. i dont have problems some stupid chip-and-fish died! point is . those were not historical jews . those were eastern Europe (mostly Russian empire ) people before ww1 80% of ‘jews’ lived in Russian empire.! Poor argument. Foreigners subsidize US students by paying full tuition, which US students, on average, do not. Has nothing to do with the cost curve (which rising tuition is, again, also paid by the foreigners). Harvard receives lots of $$ from the US gov mostly for research. Want to clean up wasteful grants? Sure. Agreed. Is Harvard not doing enough to protect Jewish students? Yes, there are civil remedies available to make sure that legitimate protests don’t infringe on students’ rights, including Jewish students. We should use those remedies. But to tell the world’s brightest lights to go study elsewhere is national suicide. Conversely, we should staple a green card to every engineering/medical (and many other) diplomas awarded in the US. Google how many US tech CEO’s were born elsewhere. Our dynamism is built on openness to creativity and innovation. We Americans don’t hold a monopoly on that. Trumps move is classic ‘baby/bathwater’ idiocy. I agree with what you are saying. Problem is Harvard has being paying lip service to upholding the law to protect Jewish students. So Trump is using leverage and a sledge hammer to get them to hand over the videos and other evidence of the protests, harassment and assaults. Note that the time given for Harvard to comply is the same as the time given for international students to transfer to another university. So if Harvard falls in line then odds are the transfer requirements will be dropped. Cheap student loans were a scam to move tuition up, do your homework. They pay full boat tuition. Its a biz racket. Prep schools and universities across the country. tell the maga morons that colleges are big business. watch their dumbfuck heads explode. defund tax dollars to state u and K through 12. let them eat cake. trump cake and trump steaks. You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.

• • • Bill Clinton promised to “end welfare as we know it.” What happened? Welfare As We Knew It The Wall Street Journal comments Welfare As We Know It Is Back—and It’s Bipartisan Bill Clinton won election in 1992 on a promise to “end welfare as we know it.” When running for re-election four years later, he declared “the era of big government is over.” Alas, welfare is back in fashion like girls’ overalls, ushering in a new era of bipartisan big government. Nearly half of New York City residents are on Medicaid. As are 40% of Californians. Since the ObamaCare expansion took effect in 2014, Medicaid enrollment has swelled. Meantime, states are gaming the program’s rules to wring more money out of Washington. California imposes a tax on insurers to obtain more federal matching funds, which allows it to extend coverage to millions of undocumented immigrants. The Golden State expects to receive some $120 billion in Medicaid matching funds this year, more than Florida’s entire state budget. During the 1990s, both parties sought to crack down on such schemes. In 1991, George H.W. Bush signed a bipartisan law to prevent states from using taxes on healthcare providers to milk more federal matching funds, some of which they then kicked back to those same healthcare providers. Even Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer voted for it. California, New York and other states then devised ways to circumvent the law’s limitations. Many Republican-led states have joined the Medicaid racket—why give up a free lunch that others are taking? But someone has to pay, and it will be future taxpayers. Many Republicans in Congress who campaigned against ObamaCare—here’s looking at you, Josh Hawley—are refusing to close Medicaid’s all-you-can-eat buffett. Some are spooked by Democratic claims that any changes to the program, however modest, will throw poor people to the wolves. As the 1990s welfare reforms suggest, shrinking Medicaid can be a political winner if Republicans make a moral case for it. That means explaining how ObamaCare perversely encourages states to spend more on able-bodied adults than the disabled and discourages work. If Republicans can’t or won’t make this argument and surrender the battlefield to Democrats, they deserve to lose. Clinton Made Matters Worse Clinton did end welfare “as we knew it”. But he made matters worse. I wrote about this in 2015. Here’s a refresher course. October 4, 2015: Fraudulent Medicare, Medicaid, EITC, Tax Refunds, etc. Total $1 Trillion Since 2003 Disability fraud is rampant. States’ Incentive to Promote Disability Fraud : States Have an Incentive to Promote (Not Stop) Disability Fraud; So How Much Fraud Is There? 14 Million on Disability : Unwilling to Work; 25% in Hale County AL Collect Disability, 14 Million Nationwide; A Simple Solution Why Work ?: Why Work for $7.25 When Welfare Pays $15.00 in 12 States and $8.00 in 33 States? Is a Low Minimum Wage the Problem? Puerto Rico Fraud : Puerto Ricans Get U.S. Disability Benefits for Inability to Speak English; Disability Deal Explained Police and Fire Fraud : 102 Police and Firefighters Caught in Disability Scam Claims Hit Record : Disability Fraud Holds Down Unemployment Rate; Jobless Disability Claims Hit Record $200B in January Clinton Ends Welfare “As We Know It” Want to understand the huge spread in disability fraud? Look no further than Bill Clinton as explained in detail in link #1. This all goes back to 1996 when president Clinton promised to “ end welfare as we know it “. Clinton did indeed do just that, and fraud is the result. Why? The federal government pays disability, but states pay part of welfare costs. This creates a huge incentive for states to actively promote disability fraud (simply to get people off state-sponsored welfare programs). And that they have done. A primary example pertains to Hale County (see link #2). 25% of the people in Hale County Alabama collect disability. They are all tied to Hale county’s Dr. Timberlake. Dr. Timberlake asks a simple question to all his patients. “What grade did you finish?” If you claim “back pain” and do not have a degree, Timberlake believes you are disabled. The Journal is wrong. Welfare is not back as we knew it. Instead we have the worst of welfare and the worst of disability fraud. The “One Big Beautiful Bill” Will Continue Spending at Biden’s Level On May 12, I commented The “One Big Beautiful Bill” Will Continue Spending at Biden’s Level Please note The GOP Surrenders on Medicaid The House bill shrinks from a fight over able-bodied men on the dole. The work requirement doesn’t kick in until 2029—a political lifetime from now. The bill also sets up a waiver process, which states have long abused to evade work rules in food stamps. But far more notable is that the bill fails to end Medicaid’s outrageous bias toward prime-age men who can work. The feds pay 90% of the cost of able-bodied adults eligible for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act—but only roughly 50% to 77% (depending on the state) for pregnant women, the blind and so on . Republicans won’t even insist that able-bodied persons must work. And people are bragging Trump will bring down inflation. If this budget passes, there is no way inflation comes down other than a huge recession that destroys demand. Welfare Reform Odds? February 12: Trump Says he Will Love and Cherish Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid The new softer side of Trump now cherishes Medicaid. Is everyone happy? April 5, 2025: Trump Sides With Elizabeth Warren, Won’t Sign a Bill That Cuts Medicaid What a fiscal joke the Republican party has become. Welfare As We Knew It The Wall Street Journal comments Welfare As We Know It Is Back—and It’s Bipartisan Bill Clinton won election in 1992 on a promise to “end welfare as we know it.” When running for re-election four years later, he declared “the era of big government is over.” Alas, welfare is back in fashion like girls’ overalls, ushering in a new era of bipartisan big government. Nearly half of New York City residents are on Medicaid. As are 40% of Californians. Since the ObamaCare expansion took effect in 2014, Medicaid enrollment has swelled. Meantime, states are gaming the program’s rules to wring more money out of Washington. California imposes a tax on insurers to obtain more federal matching funds, which allows it to extend coverage to millions of undocumented immigrants. The Golden State expects to receive some $120 billion in Medicaid matching funds this year, more than Florida’s entire state budget. During the 1990s, both parties sought to crack down on such schemes. In 1991, George H.W. Bush signed a bipartisan law to prevent states from using taxes on healthcare providers to milk more federal matching funds, some of which they then kicked back to those same healthcare providers. Even Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer voted for it. California, New York and other states then devised ways to circumvent the law’s limitations. Many Republican-led states have joined the Medicaid racket—why give up a free lunch that others are taking? But someone has to pay, and it will be future taxpayers. Many Republicans in Congress who campaigned against ObamaCare—here’s looking at you, Josh Hawley—are refusing to close Medicaid’s all-you-can-eat buffett. Some are spooked by Democratic claims that any changes to the program, however modest, will throw poor people to the wolves. As the 1990s welfare reforms suggest, shrinking Medicaid can be a political winner if Republicans make a moral case for it. That means explaining how ObamaCare perversely encourages states to spend more on able-bodied adults than the disabled and discourages work. If Republicans can’t or won’t make this argument and surrender the battlefield to Democrats, they deserve to lose. Clinton Made Matters Worse Clinton did end welfare “as we knew it”. But he made matters worse. I wrote about this in 2015. Here’s a refresher course. October 4, 2015: Fraudulent Medicare, Medicaid, EITC, Tax Refunds, etc. Total $1 Trillion Since 2003 Disability fraud is rampant. Clinton Ends Welfare “As We Know It” Want to understand the huge spread in disability fraud? Look no further than Bill Clinton as explained in detail in link #1. This all goes back to 1996 when president Clinton promised to “ end welfare as we know it “. Clinton did indeed do just that, and fraud is the result. Why? The federal government pays disability, but states pay part of welfare costs. This creates a huge incentive for states to actively promote disability fraud (simply to get people off state-sponsored welfare programs). And that they have done. A primary example pertains to Hale County (see link #2). 25% of the people in Hale County Alabama collect disability. They are all tied to Hale county’s Dr. Timberlake. Dr. Timberlake asks a simple question to all his patients. “What grade did you finish?” If you claim “back pain” and do not have a degree, Timberlake believes you are disabled. The Journal is wrong. Welfare is not back as we knew it. Instead we have the worst of welfare and the worst of disability fraud. The “One Big Beautiful Bill” Will Continue Spending at Biden’s Level On May 12, I commented The “One Big Beautiful Bill” Will Continue Spending at Biden’s Level Please note The GOP Surrenders on Medicaid The House bill shrinks from a fight over able-bodied men on the dole. The work requirement doesn’t kick in until 2029—a political lifetime from now. The bill also sets up a waiver process, which states have long abused to evade work rules in food stamps. But far more notable is that the bill fails to end Medicaid’s outrageous bias toward prime-age men who can work. The feds pay 90% of the cost of able-bodied adults eligible for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act—but only roughly 50% to 77% (depending on the state) for pregnant women, the blind and so on . Republicans won’t even insist that able-bodied persons must work. And people are bragging Trump will bring down inflation. If this budget passes, there is no way inflation comes down other than a huge recession that destroys demand. Welfare Reform Odds? February 12: Trump Says he Will Love and Cherish Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid The new softer side of Trump now cherishes Medicaid. Is everyone happy? April 5, 2025: Trump Sides With Elizabeth Warren, Won’t Sign a Bill That Cuts Medicaid What a fiscal joke the Republican party has become. Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. There are allegedly some 10,000 food additives used in the U.S. Most food products in a grocery store are processed. Pesticides are sprayed on crops that aren’t. Nine published peer reviewed studies determined that unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated. There is something wrong with the whole picture. It is made difficult to grow up healthy. The environment is also polluted with all sorts of detritus, such as microplastics, that are surely affecting EVERYONE negatively, whether you be rich or poor. And yet, Trump is busy cutting the EPA, the FDA, NIH, etc. A lot of the additives in our food are there to make the look good, make the food have a longer shelf life or make the food easier to transport. All are part of the underpinnings of our Capitalistic economic systems and the never-ending drive for more profit. Cutting healthcare for the needy while providing Israel 1000lb bombs to level Gaza is so on brand for this country and this administration. Perfectly normal. Perfectly healthy. Look! A helicopter!!! Everything is connected. Cuts to these services will get pushed to the states. State taxes will rise while federal stays the same. People who cant afford healthcare will show up to the emergency room and get services anyway. That cost will be passed on to those who can afford it. Insurance premiums or self pay. Maybe we should have universal healthcare. With tariff income paying for it. Least everyone would be contributing so to speak. Similar to the fed gas tax. First, essential healthcare, annual preventative care, was the foundation of the Medicaid Act. Most significant state residency is the cause of eligibility, since the individual state is responsible for about half of the annual costs. Medicare A, B,and D, may actually be combined for an indigent person. The person must be an actual resident of the state. There are important exceptions state residents that are incarcerated or active military, or retired military have their own healthcare system called Tricare, or in NY, the incarcerated have the DOCCS healthcare system. Medicaid in NY is out of control. The use of waivers has accomplished little towards actual improvement in health of indigent people, just made it more complex. I suggest that everyone in NY look at an interesting website “seethroughny.com” and be amazed how many high 5 and 6 figure people earn to manage the NY Medicaid System, when the actual NY Medicaid system is primarily outsourced, often to NY state-funded NGOs like the Rockefeller Foundation, and CDHS. The vast NY Social Services Industry fights among themselves for their share of indigent NY residents to enroll them with a game called Facilitated Enrollment in Medicaid/CHP, the employment title paid for by the taxpayers. For usually dysfunctional families NY created the Child Health Plus Program because the family ‘Head” was unable to support the healthcare needs of the children in the family unit (I know great family planning) and learned about CHP from actually good services like Planned Parenthood, that never seems to live up to its name. Just listen to the Erie County Clerk now Governor by default talk about Medicaid. Ignore the fact that she looks like Joan Rivers did about Edgar died. “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left” Hmm, United Heathcare, down again. Cut the fat and save billions of dollars and pounds. Meanwhile my healthcare premium has quadrupled in ten years so these clowns can get free healthcare. But, but think of all the shareholder value that’s been added! Let’s just kill the entire program. Libs will cry no matter what so let’s really give them something to cry about. “But someone has to pay, and it will be future taxpayers.” Nope, fiscally responsible Republicans are getting ready for another big tax cut so that growth will pay for all the extra spending, as it has always done! Chronic end game Fiat disease. That headline is a wow……….But can I change it to “We import poverty every mother Fing Day? And what does that say about the border the last 4 years? If those people are undercounted then this is worse? Isn’t it time for a NY Times headline about how poverty is growing? LOL If you import poverty every day then what do you expect the numbers to look like? And I am NOT saying we should not help people , we should. But we cannot import poverty like we have over the last 4 years. Yeah, catastrophic disease discovered at age 13, my lucky number, BTW. Six months in hospital with four major abdominal surgeries between the age of 24-26. Something maybe congenital. Had to rip my guts out to cure me. SEVENTH OF EIGHT kids with no disease in a typical protestant dad marriage to a hot catholic wife. Home from WW2 and went boom-boom. Musk might approve of this behavior… I’ve been a life long athlete, in case you care. Bankrupted me because I was just a kid working my behind off in a company that provided top shelf blue cross insurance, didn’t matter though. My bill was north of one million dollars in 1986!!! Whatever, I’ve been on borrowed time for so long couldn’t give two shee-ahts about current affairs. All fun and games until you have to live like a troll under the proverbial bridge for ten years before a lender will meet with you. The moral of this sad and too common tale is don’t get sick in USA unless you are indegent. P.S. Buddy of mine is indegent, his wife got two brand new hips at 64 years old on my COMEBACK KID dime!!! Upside down world we live in. Sleep well comrades. If only people could learn how to profit from misery, the world would be a happier place. . Go look and United Healthcare stock chart. Accused of massive medicare fraud. Stock down about 50% https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UNH/ I warned people here to stay away from health insurance companies. I am 72 and poor. I can’t afford any kind of insurance. I use almost no medical services at all, but if and when I needed any help, Medicaid is there first. Common doctors want to prescribe me all kinds of outlandish stuff anyway. I only use the very few that help and do not refill or use the expensive and useless stuff that they ply so readily. That saves the gov thousands right there. Sadly, I could not even see a doctor around here if I wasn’t positioned on the dole. I do not fear budget cuts at all, I can see how much of it is waste. If ‘they’ should determine that my life and value is unfit, then so be it. I don’t think it matters much, and remain a beloved musician and helper of many folks around here anyway. You are not saving the governments thousands by being on Medicaid. You are costing the government and the taxpayers. Good job. I have a friend who does everything they toss at her because she says it doesn’t cost anything. I remind her it costs the taxpayer plenty. I asked her if she would do half the things if she had to pay for it, and she says she wouldn’t. I applaud your restraint, and thanks for saving us all from the cost of unnecessary interventions. I now have my friend pushing the vacuum around to Andre Rieu music instead of Physical Therapy. She always wanted a lighter vacuum, but has now found new joy in the vacuum she has. Cut – the fast carbs and seed oils. that is! Here’s a related article: Some Encouraging Progress on Reining in Medicaid Financing Gimmicks By Benedic N. Ippolito By Benedic N. Ippolito AEIdeas AEIdeas May 14, 2025 May 14, 2025 Both Congress and the current administration have proposed limiting controversial Medicaid financing strategies that allow states to artificially offload costs to the federal government. Even independent of near-term federal savings, they both represent sensible reforms to the program’s financing structure. Both Congress and the current administration have proposed limiting controversial Medicaid financing strategies that allow states to artificially offload costs to the federal government. Even independent of near-term federal savings, they both represent sensible reforms to the program’s financing structure. States and the federal government share responsibility for financing Medicaid spending, with the federal government covering between 50 and 90 percent of spending. The exact amount varies across states and enrollee types. States and the federal government share responsibility for financing Medicaid spending, with the federal government covering between 50 and 90 percent of spending. The exact amount varies across states and enrollee types. States can finance their share of spending from various sources, like general revenues. However, states have increasingly done so by imposing taxes on health providers or Medicaid insurers and using the revenues to cover their share of spending. Doing so triggers federal matching payments without requiring any actual state spending. States can then make supplemental payments to taxed entities to ensure their financial position is maintained or improved. States can finance their share of spending from various sources, like general revenues. However, states have increasingly done so by imposing taxes on health providers or Medicaid insurers and using the revenues to cover their share of spending. Doing so triggers federal matching payments without requiring any actual state spending. States can then make supplemental payments to taxed entities to ensure their financial position is maintained or improved. While states have long optimized to Medicaid’s financing rules, the proliferation of these tax strategies undermines the balance envisioned in the program’s financing structure. Estimates suggest this has increased federal share by five to seven percentage points on average (more so in the most aggressive states). The federal government now covers roughly 75 percent of program costs in practice. While states have long optimized to Medicaid’s financing rules, the proliferation of these tax strategies undermines the balance envisioned in the program’s financing structure. Estimates suggest this has increased federal share by five to seven percentage points on average (more so in the most aggressive states). The federal government now covers roughly 75 percent of program costs in practice. … … https://www.aei.org/economics/some-encouraging-progress-on-reining-in-medicaid-financing-gimmicks/ https://www.aei.org/economics/some-encouraging-progress-on-reining-in-medicaid-financing-gimmicks/ The world may be upside down. But the National Medicaid with expenses supposed to be shared approximately 50% with a participating State Medicaid Program. It was enacted after Medicare to provide indigent Medical Care. NYS has used Medicaid for purposes unintended too long. The NYS Compliance Programs are comprised primarily of unemployable individuals referred to the Executive Chamber for the political party in power by the County Chair unable to pass a Civil Service examination. Govt buildings are putting up huge banners of Trumps face Just spendin that money aint we? like Cuba? is this really happening? wow. idiocracy. Like Mussolini? Remember, Mish, that a very big portion of Medicaid goes to very old people, especially in nursing homes. It’s one welfare program that benefits the middle class who don’t have to pick up those costs for their parents. Better to have a one-layer public system of healthcare for all citizens, like Canada, Europe and most of the First World have. Absolutely. The crazy quilt sort of system we have is not only wasteful but also results in people getting tossed between healthcare systems, esp between Medicaid and ACA aka Obolacare. donorCRAT Party fans would claim that Obolacare is so great but all it did is to add one more patch to the crazy quilt that we already had, even as it raked in hundreds of billions of dollars into the coffers of predatory for-profit health insurance companies. Obamacare was a good attempt at providing universal healthcare. However it was initially a 6 month healthcare contract so the capitation seemed low. The AMA was instrumental assisting the implementing the non-profit Blue Cross and Blue Shield. Even during this period doctors grouped together to actually fund hospitals. This stopped when MA was implemented. The basic problem with Obamacare was the confusion whether it was a fee for service plan or managed care plan. Uhh, prolly not. Wealthy canadians come to the U.S. for surgeries. Wait time in Canada is way to looong. In the UK, wait times are ridiculous as well. And health care is rated low by recipients. Depending on your insurance and location, wait times in the US can be longer than either. Unless your wealthy and can afford to fly somewhere else. Adding the wealthy into the dialogue never leads to enlightenment. My wait time in South Korea… I’ve never even made an appointment. You don’t have to. I’ve always walked in and have always been seen in less than an hour, even with specialists. I usually go to specialists in Korea since you don’t have to have a referral. In the USA, it’s days and even weeks to see a specialist. My total cost for an emergency appendectomy with three nights in the hospital, meds, and everything was around $350. At the same time, my aunt had a routine abdominal operation at Tennova in Knoxville, TN and she was billed over a half million dollars. My Korean national health insurance was around $100 a month and the only time it didn’t cover something was when I had a vasectomy, which was reasonable. It’s an elective surgery and Korea is trying to raise its birthrate, the world’s lowest. In the USA, in 1996, I was billed over $2000 for a colonoscopy when I was a student at UT. My health insurance didn’t cover any of it. I saw on Aaron Clary’s YouTube channel where he paid $3600 and none of his was covered either. Last May, I had a colonoscopy in Korea along with a stomach endoscopy, anesthesia, and a full health check for less than $75. Everyone with Korean national health insurance gets a free health check every other year, in my case even years since I was born in an even year. South Koreans have the third longest life expectancy while Americans can’t afford preventative healthcare and die relatively young. My taxes are lower in Korea too. I’m currently in the USA and I don’t have health insurance since American health insurance companies never cover anything. One of my friends from high school was hospitalized with Covid at the same time as her friend and they spent the same length of time in the hospital. She had insurance and her friend didn’t. She had to pay twice as much as her friend for the same care BECAUSE she had health insurance. If South Korea did not have a predatory export policy and actually defended itself the cost of healthcare and other services would rise dramatically. In the US all Medicare recipients get a free annual medical physical. Likewise it is possible to get a free annual physical if you know the to complicated and overlapping US healthcare system. Your colonoscopy cost you that amount because you didn’t “stay within your network,” or you opted for inadequate healthcare insurance with low monthly capitation. The issue is that medical providers are actually employed by the Canadian government and UK government. Both nations has serious issues with budgets. Canada is not a federal republic, but a group of provinces that exert much influence. This is true and needs to stop. People should be allowed to easily end their lives when they want. Those families who want to continue to prop up grandma/grandpa, even though all they do is spend their days laying in bed watching reruns on TV, need to pay the bill for this themselves. 10% of Medicaid recipients are seniors and they account for 20% of Medicaid spending. And? Actually in NY 40% of the population have Medicaid. Additionally NY offers Child Health Plus but is rather laggard in providing statistics about enrollment. Your metrics in general are somewhat incorrect. Seniors eligible for Medicaid, can get Medicare when they are at a certain age, or under various circumstances. “ he middle class who don’t have to pick up those costs for their parents” Only if assets are in trust. This is a matter of sorta. NYS has a look-back of 7 years to determine if a person is eligible for Medicaid and an LTC. There is a cottage industry of lawyers in NY will offer fees for explaining this. The matter of Reverse Mortgages, and even purchasing whole life insurance to avoid ineligibility, is often suggested. Usually if the person desiring LTC uses various legal options but that still includes using MA not the way it was intended. Half or more of the total MA costs including LTC is paid by the taxpayers, including what’s lest of the middle class. MA allows for the ownership of a car, a small bank account. If there is a house, it will be literally be collateralized by NYS Medicaid. However if the individual does enter an LTC and is eligible for MA, usually the person should also apply for Medicare. This is called a Dual Eligibility and perfectly legal. That is why individuals should consider getting Long Term Insurance while employed, than pay the premiums when not employed for a deducible expense. I know it sounds rather complicated but I when I worked for NYS I recovered quite a bit of money identifying ineligible MA recipients. MA is a program of healthcare for indigent people, with some exceptions, not a welfare program. In 2021, seniors and people with disabilities accounted for 51% of Medicaid spending, despite representing a smaller portion (23%) of the enrollment. Medicaid is the primary source of coverage for nearly two out of every three (approximately 63%) nursing home residents nationwide. Because of demographics with the baby boomer generation now in nursing homes, that is why Medicaid spending during Birdbrain Biden was more than Pentagon and national security spending. Maybe in 20 years Medicaid won’t be as large because of demographics, or perhaps it will remain this because of third world immigration to the USA. California commiting fraud with Federal dollars to the tune of $120 billion/yr. Shocker! Lol!!! 1990 was a long time ago and fiscal restraint whooshed by about $20 trillion dollars back. There’s no stopping the Doom Train no matter how hard Ron Paul tries to pull the emergency brake.How can you blame poor fellows in coach for swiping a chocolate almond or two from the dessert tray as it rolls past up to super, ultra, posh 1st class? We need covidcon clawbacks from Billy Gates. Rachel Reeves has utterly lost control of public spending and is putting the economy in peril The Office for National Statistics revealed that the UK borrowed £15 billion more than forecast in the year to March. In total, we borrowed a shocking £151.9 billion over the last twelve months, £20 billion more than the previous year, and much more than the Office for Budget Responsibility had forecast. Last month alone, we racked up another £16.4 billion in debt, the third highest March figure since records began. Meanwhile, in a stagnant economy, corporation tax revenues have proved disappointing as companies struggle to make any money. VAT is no longer raising the amount expected as struggling households rein back their spending. Even worse, these are only the “provisional” figures. If anyone feels like a bet, here is a certain winner. When the final numbers are tallied up, they will be far worse. The borrowing numbers are only going to go higher over the course of the summer. The huge rise in National Insurance charges will hit the public sector as hard as any private sector employer; it will add hundreds of millions to the cost of employing the 6.1 million people who work for the Government. Businesses are already laying off staff and closing units – look at the decision by Morrisons to close 52 cafes and 17 convenience stores as a typical example of what is happening right across the country – to save on costs, and this will hit income tax and VAT revenues. https://archive.md/uAvok#selection-3303.245-3307.301 If we had single payer universal healthcare like other civilized countries we could deal with this problem. You want to kick poor people off medicaid and have people dying in the streets? As it is, we have very expensive for profit healthcare with worse patient outcomes than any other western country. This is true and is also why the system will never change, barring some financial catastrophe that makes business as usual unworkable. However, in the next 5-20 years, the system is going to be self-destruct when MD’s, medical services and so forth are replaced by AI/Robots. At that point, all medical services will be free. So, “patience, Grasshopper”. I will on Elysium by then. Uhh, prolly not. I was married to a European.  Wait times are now so long that people are suffering like dogs. Wealthy canadians come to the U.S. for surgeries. Wait time in Canada is way to looong. In the UK, wait times are ridiculous as well. And health care is rated low by recipients. The Canadian Healthcare is a great concept. Problem is that the taxpayers of Canada cannot provide the funds to make it great. The last attempt was to admit immigrants based upon their pledges of using wealth to expand the tax base. That isn’t going to well. There is and always will be reciprocity in medical research between Canada and the US, and Mexico that has caused significant breakthroughs. If Mr. Kennedy would ban “advertising the latest and best” pharmacy on US Television, then allow China to become part of the very expensive logistics, the cost of healthcare in North America would actually decline. This is not much of an argument any longer when US wait times are just as bad if not worse. Wait time is US for specialists is now months or longer and it’s next to impossible to find a primary care physician. At least you won’t end up bankrupt from medical bills in a country with socialized medicine. Our for-profit system has failed. We could deal with this problem without single payer. Denninger often mentions that if anti trust law was enforced, the cost could drop as much as 80%. Trump enforced the border and illegal entries dropped over 90%. How is single payer going to help? It won’t increase the number of Doctors, Nurses or Hospitals. Nor will it increase the money available for health care. Single payer is just going to be Medicare for all. Given costs are out of control how do you think that is going to help. Get the Federal government out of the Medicaid program. Let states run their own Medicaid programs. California Governor Newsom seeks to scale back free healthcare for migrants https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/california-governor-newsom-seeks-scale-back-free-healthcare-migrants-2025-05-14/ You mean illegal alien. They are properly referred to as the “undocumented” here in CA. Failure to abide by this nomenclature will get related posts deleted on social network sites like NextDoor. [lol] It may be fraud and may be bad but it’ll get 10x worse when real medical problems start hitting the American population as it ages over the next decade. Had lunch with an old friend, told me her husband had prostate cancer got it removed. Another friend had prostate cancer, had laser surgery and now cancer back again. And yet another friend has a tumor in his head but he was a chain smoker and still smokes today. A mom from my son’s old scout troop has terminal cancer as well. Recently had a boomer relative pass away from pancreatic cancer that spread everywhere. I’d say 60% of the people I know have some type of severe illness and even some of the younger ones in their 20s and 30s have something. Heck, my brother-in-law seems to have perpetual knee replacement issues and he’s only 50. Evidently, if you’re an avid runner, you’re gonna need new knees at some point. If the math is shocking now, it will be insanely shocking in a few years. Got exit strategy? Thank God they were fully vaxxed. 6 times … And now you have top notch crackhead leadership that says you shouldn’t take medical advise from him. Of course, what’d you expect from the Secretary of Health. https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/2025/05/14/robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccine-question-congressional-hearing/83631566007/ RFK Jr.: ‘I don’t think people should be taking medical advice from me’ Xavier Becerra was the Secretary of Health and Human Services under President Joe Biden and he was a lawyer and a politician yet he was giving the whole country medical advice and we know the results. what’s wrong with an old heroin addict who staged a hit and run in central park with a bear cub and his bike, when he was in his 50s? Kennedy said, “What we’re trying to do is to lay out the pros and cons, the risks and benefits accurately as we understand them, with replicable studies.” He is correct. He is not your doctor. I’m glad I don’t know you. You better find some new friends. All that sickness could be contagious! As to “ Heck, my brother-in-law seems to have perpetual knee replacement issues and he’s only 50″, not true. I’m 70+, hike/jog 500-1000 miles yearly and my knees are in great shape. No pains at all. I used to have some knee pain back in the 2005 time frame but believe I have solved those problems through the use of supplements glucosamine HCL/MSM and NAC + daily stretching. As to your BiL, he probably got a crappy replacement job done from poor MD’s. A lot depends on just genetics. That’s a cop-out rationalization that can’t be addressed. It’s not a rationalization but a fact. If you do sports that don’t conform to your body plan you will get hurt. Most people learn this by high school. Some never learn and have to have various body parts replaced because they persisted doing sports they shouldn’t have been doing. Pain is your body’s way of telling you something. “ Pain is your body’s way of telling you something.” The above is true. It could mean that you are training wrong, eating wrong, you need rest or you shouldn’t be doing whatever is causing the pain. But poor genetics is small percentage excuse in my belief. There is no study on this subject to my knowledge, so no way to get a firm answer as to the role of genetics in problems (either physically or mentally). But OK, maybe people should be evaluated at birth and those deemed having poor genetics should be culled? Sham surgery just as effective as real arthroscopy and has lower infection rates. https://theconversation.com/placebo-or-sham-surgery-is-not-a-cruel-trick-it-can-be-very-effective-229896 The answer is DATA DATA DATA. There are 3.1 million knee and hip replacements each year and the growth rate is 14%. Doug is correct, you have good genetics to avoid that fate. https://snhhealthcare.com/how-many-knee-and-hip-replacements-are-performed-in-the-us-each-year.html Oh please. Quoting the number of operations as a rational is beyond dumb. Probably 50% of the number you quote(assuming it is accurate) could be rehabilitated were they to consult knowledgeable people and were they willing to put the necessary work and diet changes in place to do so. Many get knee and hip operations because they are overweight and their infrastructure isn’t capable of supporting their excess weight day after day. Never forget that surgeons get paid to operate. You don’t make $1 million+ yearly on office visits and prescribing Ibuprofen/Tylenol So data was provided and you don’t believe it. End of discussion, believe whatever you want. Garbage data isn’t worth bupkis. Surely you’ve heard of GIGO? I used to be an avid runner especially in cross-country running but around 40 years old my ancles started to hurt badly. My doctor said it wasn’t going to get better and if I continue I will need new ancles. I stopped running and started walking and have no problems with ancles or knees. Those I know who kept running have big problems now and have a hard time even walking. Is “ancies” what the French call ankles? [lol] I made a spelling mistake. It happens. It’s easy to do when you switch languages. C before an L is common in French while K before L is nonexistent. I made the error. Do you want a formal apology? You aren’t alone- Jojo pretended to quote your post but mistakenly typed “ancies” instead of “ancles”. Fortunately in the near future these comment sections will be dominated by ‘AI’ and such errors will cease! Oops! 🙂 ancles are usually married to uncles… My doc told me to do swimming instead of running for exercise because he’s seeing too many knee replacements. i’m fairly certain in NYS, the feds do not pay more than 25% of the cost. so it’s a states rights issue. obamacare was medicaide for all, plus the exchanges. in ny state, medicaide is very great service. of course the taxpayers end up paying for it. so it’s a feedback loop. word salad for other people paying your bills. the us tax code is jock full with free money. best to learn the rules of the game as a young man. Zion Don is adding more to the deficit than demented Biden. And Trump tards criticize fiscal conservatives Massie and Rand for pushing back on Trumps big beautiful spending bill that has no spending cuts. massie was mum on that Qatari plane bribe. Weird, right? He had only one wife to give for his country. But he does have children. After they kill one family member to send a message, they remind you that you still have other family left. Seth Rich had a twin brother. At first his parents hired a private investigator. A couple days later, they let him go and clammed up. The logical solution is single payer funded by a national sales tax and or payroll tax. This solves all the mentioned issues. We are the only developed country without it. We have double per capital health care costs and the worst health. We do have the richest political class who like the parasites they are live off the donor class to appease their money masters. As a hard-hearted conservative, I’ve always been opposed to any form of welfare or government supplied medical benefit except for Medicare, which workers at least pay for. But now, we are a country of early-onset obesity brought about by the diet that keeps grain farmers and middle men in business. Politicians do nothing but support these parasites. I’m 80 years old and still working, thank God. You don’t want to see my tax bills. My wife wonders what happened to our money this year. I told her to watch videos of cheap cruise ships and riots in Chicago, NY and LA. These are the people living off our tax money with all the time in the world. Deadbeats and Illegals protesting against the very idea of getting rid of them, with the Democrats full support. Please get out more? Look at stuff daily produced by those you disagree with! Holy mothers of bigotry try to imagine a world where you’re always right? Could be you are an 80 year old moron! Grow up already and wise up! Life is too short not to entertain the dark side however you define, the dark side. Yikes! Sherman Act Clayton Act Robinson-Patman Act Start perp walking the pharma / heathcare execs right to the Florence, Colorado pen. They are a more dangerous element to society than Uncle Ted and El Choppo. I would add that in most of the country there is no free market in health care. There is one hospital in town and you are going there. It’s a natural monopoly. It sounds like Medicaid needs reform, not to have an axe taken to it. If the Feds only paid, say, 80% of it, states would have an incentive (the other 20%) to make sure it only goes to worthy recipients. It’s too complex an issue for simplistic slogans: “don’t touch Medicaid” or “cut spending on Medicaid”. I am looking forward to being able to go on Medicare. If that makes me a commie, so be it. “Medicare for All” isn’t without merit – especially since it would make it easier to force down the amount of money that goes to doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. currently on avg the feds pay about 50% MediCARE is very different from mediCAID. You paid into medicare with your social security contributions. When you qualify for Medicare you will have to pay for it monthly, if you are able to collect social security at the same time as you signup for Medicare, it will be deducted from your monthly social security payments. Make sure you at least sign up for part a when you turn 65 (actually you can do it several months before you turn 65 – at least 3 months – maybe more) Thanks. I know it’s different. I’ve come to believe that the entire American insurance/healthcare/pharma complex is such a conspiratorial clusterf*** that a basic, government-funded cradle-to-grave medical insurance system would be better. That’s especially true since half the population is too senile or too dumb or too crazy to navigate the insurance market and to comprehend what they owe to whom. In network, out of network. The EOB (explanation of benefits) “This is not a bill” notices pile up on the floor. It won’t matter. There won’t be enough doctors or nurses to treat all the boomers. Expect long wait times to get anything done and you’ll probably die waiting. I’ve posted various links to all the rural hospitals shutting down across America as supporting evidence. Many doctors and nurses are fleeing red states as well due to their stupid laws regarding when a pregnant woman can be treated for health issues. No one wants to end up in jail for religious nonsense stupidity. Hal on Earth gets it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeffXduR6VI Doctors who made $300k – $1mil+ for 30 years will quit and live off their millions. Young smart people will still go into medicine, though, because even if salaries dropped by 1/3 it would still be good money compared to other career choices. There are more people wanting to get acceptance to med school than there are slots for them. Doctors in the UK make far less than in the U.S. There is savings to be had even while increasing the supply of doctors. Nurses are a little tougher to fill, since they’re paid so much less. If government were the main insurer, pharma companies wouldn’t be able to charge as much. Would fewer drugs come to market? Yes. Medical professionals are no more going to accept cuts in compensation any more than workers in Trump’s new factories are going to work for $5/hr to be competitive with overseas factories because that is what they make in some place like China or Vietnam or Bangladesh. Instead, medical workers will be replaced by AI’s just as any new factories will be “staffed” by robots. No one will become doctors if they only make $300k instead of’$450k? I don’t believe that. Doctors will accept cuts in pay. Maybe not 60 year old doctors, but 30 year olds and upcoming ones will. It’s a stable income. Thinking they can all get other private sector jobs that pay as much is delusional – especially since not all jobs align with their skill set. Try paying attention for a change. If you were informed, you would understand that replacing medical personnel, from MD’s to nurses to film readers, etc. is a lot closer than many want to believe. This is being done primarily to save money but also to address shortages of human medical people, who take too long to train (for those qualified to be trained). You might also refer to this article that I have posted in the past: MD’s are not going to take cuts anymore than anyone else would voluntarily. Most people live at or above the income they bring in. Taking cuts just isn’t possible for most. The average doctor in the U.S. makes $350,000 a year. Why? Analysis by Andrew Van Dam, Staff writer| Analysis by Andrew Van Dam, Staff writer| August 4, 2023 August 4, 2023 The average U.S. physician earns $350,000 a year. Top doctors pull in 10 times that. The average U.S. physician earns $350,000 a year. Top doctors pull in 10 times that. When those simple data points were first presented in 2020, a small subset of physicians came unglued on the microblogging site formerly known as Twitter, slinging personal insults and at least one deeply unflattering photo illustration of an economist. When those simple data points were first presented in 2020, a small subset of physicians came unglued on the microblogging site formerly known as Twitter, slinging personal insults and at least one deeply unflattering photo illustration of an economist. We couldn’t understand why. The figures are nigh-on unimpeachable. They come from a working paper, newly updated, that analyzes more than 10 million tax records from 965,000 physicians over 13 years. The talented economist-authors also went to extreme lengths to protect filers’ privacy, as is standard for this type of research. We couldn’t understand why. The figures are nigh-on unimpeachable. They come from a working paper, newly updated, that analyzes more than 10 million tax records from 965,000 physicians over 13 years. The talented economist-authors also went to extreme lengths to protect filers’ privacy, as is standard for this type of research. By accounting for all streams of income, they revealed that doctors make more than anyone thought — and more than any other occupation we’ve measured. In the prime earning years of 40 to 55, the average physician made $405,000 in 2017 — almost all of it (94 percent) from wages. Doctors in the top 10 percent averaged $1.3 million. And those in the top 1 percent averaged an astounding $4 million, though most of that (85 percent) came from business income or capital gains. By accounting for all streams of income, they revealed that doctors make more than anyone thought — and more than any other occupation we’ve measured. In the prime earning years of 40 to 55, the average physician made $405,000 in 2017 — almost all of it (94 percent) from wages. Doctors in the top 10 percent averaged $1.3 million. And those in the top 1 percent averaged an astounding $4 million, though most of that (85 percent) came from business income or capital gains. … … https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/04/doctor-pay-shortage/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/04/doctor-pay-shortage/ “ There won’t be enough doctors or nurses to treat all the boomers.” It won’t matter. MD’s will be replaced by AI’s shortly and they can work 24 hours a day through your computer at home. You won’t even have to go to an MD’s office in most cases! Bill Gates: Within 10 years, AI will replace many doctors and teachers—humans won’t be needed ‘for most things’ CNBC CNBC March 26, 2025 March 26, 2025 … … http://cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/26/bill-gates-on-ai-humans-wont-be-needed-for-most-things.html http://cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/26/bill-gates-on-ai-humans-wont-be-needed-for-most-things.html My prayer slash selfish wish every night Let me die in my sleep and please don’t wake me up while it’s happening. Lucky sob’s who are granted this end. You and I will have high drama with percentages on survival times and endless treatments in hospital. Slicing and dicing, irradiated, castrated, lambasted, tattooed, screwd, glewd, hopefully blewed? until we cackle one last death rattle into the never ending abyss. That last

• • • If you are looking for a RINO, look at Trump. Lawmakers Debate Spending Cuts Rand Paul Video Link : “I’m not voting to add $5 trillion to the deficit, or to the debt ceiling. Conservatives have never voted for that, and now conservatives are lining up and falling all over themselves to vote for the largest debt ceiling increase in all of history.” Fiscal conservativeness is enough to get one Branded a RINO by clueless Trump cultists. As you can see, the nitwits go after Rep. Thomas Massie as well. There are dozens of idiotic Tweets like the above. Nitwit Tina Ann says Paul Rand RINO needs to be primaried out. Trump is the RINO I endorse this Comment by Holly “The tariffs are 100% owned by RINO Trump (and his simps in congress who voted against Rand ’s bill), and everything that comes with them.” Trump has brainwashed the cult into believing every idiotic thing he says, no matter how contradictory. The Trump cult is acting just like the climate fearmongers and the abortion through 9 months advocates who propose drowning out all dissents. Trump wants to pack the courts with loyalists just as AOC and Warren wanted to do for their goals. Very few are willing to stand up to either cult. Trump is not a fiscal conservative. I am proud to stand with Rand and anyone else fighting for genuine fiscal conservative principles. If you believe fiscal conservativeness is a Republican value, then Trump is the RINO, not Rand Paul. Gold Soars to Another New High Ponder this: Gold Soars to Another New High, What’s the Message? There are three messages. Do you see them? Lawmakers Debate Spending Cuts Rand Paul Video Link : “I’m not voting to add $5 trillion to the deficit, or to the debt ceiling. Conservatives have never voted for that, and now conservatives are lining up and falling all over themselves to vote for the largest debt ceiling increase in all of history.” Fiscal conservativeness is enough to get one Branded a RINO by clueless Trump cultists. As you can see, the nitwits go after Rep. Thomas Massie as well. There are dozens of idiotic Tweets like the above. Nitwit Tina Ann says Paul Rand RINO needs to be primaried out. Trump is the RINO I endorse this Comment by Holly “The tariffs are 100% owned by RINO Trump (and his simps in congress who voted against Rand ’s bill), and everything that comes with them.” Trump has brainwashed the cult into believing every idiotic thing he says, no matter how contradictory. The Trump cult is acting just like the climate fearmongers and the abortion through 9 months advocates who propose drowning out all dissents. Trump wants to pack the courts with loyalists just as AOC and Warren wanted to do for their goals. Very few are willing to stand up to either cult. Trump is not a fiscal conservative. I am proud to stand with Rand and anyone else fighting for genuine fiscal conservative principles. If you believe fiscal conservativeness is a Republican value, then Trump is the RINO, not Rand Paul. Gold Soars to Another New High Ponder this: Gold Soars to Another New High, What’s the Message? There are three messages. Do you see them? Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. Trump is the RINO. Real conservitives need to as the Democrats to Impeach him and then vote to get rid of him, along with the Dems. Nothing gets you through hard times better than cash. With all the naysayers about Trump’s MAGA, you’d be well advised to buy gold and/or move to Canada. Take away MAGA, and what exactly does the US have to justify its standard of living… other than constant borrowing? See, you already have the alternative: MOAR. That’s more government employees, more welfare, more health, more free tuition, more foreign support, more crappy education, more laws, more immigrants,….. more everything, and more taxes. Eventually, it implodes. I live in Kentucky and am pleased to have both Rand Paul and Thomas Massie in the Kentucky delegation. Rand Paul is the ONLY politician to whom I have very made a donation. Massie does not represent my district but I will be donating to his campaign. Both are extremely popular. President Trump, good luck finding a candidate that can pose a real challenge to these two. If we could only populate the house and senate with clones of these two we might have a hope of only enduring hard adjustments rather than a disaster when the that proverbial can reaches the end of the road. They are about the only good ones. Meanwhile Trump is still sending weapons to the Ukros to attack the country with the biggest nuclear arsenal. He also wants to spend over 1,000 billion dollars on “defense” and – contrary to his recent theater – is still helping Israel kill innocents. No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. Exactly. We are the oldest major continuous government in the world right now. Switzerland is our closest peer, formed in mid 1840s. The USA is past its prime. Governments go extinct as part of the natural order. Tick tock. watching amerika be taken over by cult leader has been fascinating and fun. the cult of dumbfucks in pax dumbfuckistan. idiocracy was a documentary. i truly get a great kick out of the morons in this empire. You are remarkably astute. Not sure why Rand Paul suddenly woke up from his fiscal slumber party. At the same time, being the voice of reason among the MAGAs is more risky than playing Russian roulette. Are we talking about the same Rand Paul. He strikes me as one of the few politicians with integrity. Which means his days are numbered. We never did hear his wife’s cause of death. This country is heading towards Second Great Depression. Paul is gonna get a pizza delivery in his kids name. God bless Rand Paul. He is a (singular?) voice of reason in a sea of idiocy, A rare voice of common sense among politicians with no backbone to stand up for what it is right. Amazing how long that he has been able to survive in the quagmire of dc. Trump and his followers are populists, not conservatives. The opposite of conservatism is populism, not liberalism. The GOP is the populist party. There is no conservative party. A populist wouldn’t be waging a proxy war against Russia or be threatening a war on Iran at Israel’s behest. A populist that is dismantling the… National Labor Relations Board, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Federal Trade Commission, Consumer Product Safety Commission? Who do you think those institutions serve to protect? Who benefits from tearing them down? A populist who is corrupting the authority of the SEC, NTSB, IRS, FAA, FCC? Are those institutions threatening the power of the people? Has the NTSB been binding your personal liberties lately? Or do a few dozen want attention off their crime and to tilt federal contracts in their direction? Is loading the NIH, EPA with loyalists improving public health and environment? Is defunding education, weather, and science good for the future of our nation? Or is it an excuse to lower taxes on the 0.01%? Do you think your individual freedoms will be more or less secure in 2027? If a corporation wrongs you directly or indirectly, will you have any recourse? You might get away with “self defense” against each other, but federal law will be defending the interests of those who have paid for it in coin rather than those who protect it with their service and lives. Trump may have been elected on “populist vibes” but the playboo publushed prior to the election, and nearly every action since has been looting our nation for the benefit of the ogliarchy. Republicans haven’t been about fiscal conservatism since Reagan. raygun a fiscal conservative. BWAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. too fucking stupid There you go again. You were definitely brainwashed when you were younger. If you want to blame someone for the early-mid 80s, try Tip O’Neil and the Democrats, who raped the US for more and more social programs. The budget deficit might flip to a surplus when higher paying jobs, protected by tariffs, a smaller gov and inflation will fill gov coffer. It started already under Biden. Export will rise, Import will shrink. Twenty countries are in line to buy a thousand of F-15 EX. Some people erupt like a volcano in anger. Who they f**k they think they are.The US econ relies too much on consumption. The Chinese econ relies too much on industrial production. Trump was elected bring back industrial jobs, to do rebalancing. A thriving econ lift all people and reduce pain. Lower debt strengthen DX. I’d like to have some of whatever it is that you are smoking. The budget deficit might flip to a surplus when higher paying jobs, protected by tariffs, a smaller gov and inflation will fill gov coffer. It started already under Biden ==== OR MARTIANS FLY DOWN AND FIX THINGS! ===== buddy, you have no idea about USA fed gov budget, do you? USA gov in good year collects about 4.5*5 trln in taxes. and prints $2 trln more to balance expenses! ==== USS ship named =USA is bankrupt= is already in salty waters, and huge chunk of ice is on already horizon! NOTHING, REPEAT nothing will help. it is USSR in 1985-1987 year believe me! alx =b uy a thousand of F-15 EX. cant believe you would post this moronic figure! lets say pr ice is 50 mil per item, it is just $50 bil, USA gov spends this each 2 days more or less! and it is gross sales. cost taxes are about 30*40% tops! The problem is bringing back jobs to industries that the US no longer has a competitive advantage in. Tariffs merely reward inefficiency–the same as subsidies. The ONLY way the US recovers is by out-competing. That means innovation. And with the US education system the way it is, change of that type is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. 1980 presidential debate: Carter, Reagan and that Orville Redenbacher guy. $800,000,000,000 national debt then. Who was talking about it? The post today is for all you middle schoolers out there, “and that is how the exponential function works – any questions!” A poignant observation, Mish … 2025 US Corporate buy back spending to date at 640 billion for 2025 has exceeded the totals of all previous years. What’s happening? There is simply no other place to invest profit money and expand business activities in a debt-strapped, contracting global market. The operative 4-phase fractal series from 27 Oct 2023 to 17 June 2025 is 55/139/136/83 days :: x/2.5x/2.5x/1.5x similar to the US hegemonic 1807 to 2074 36/90/90/54 year :: x/2.5x/2.5x/1.5x 4 phase fractal series. 3.13 and 2.78 trillion deficit spending(14.7 and 11.7 deficit to GDP spending- higher than wartime 1942 ) in 2020 and 2021, has propelled the SPX to the final 19 Feb 2025 high. Trump Admin To Accept ‘Palace In The Sky’ 747 Jet From Royal Family Of Qatar, ABC Says ========= trump really lost any link to reality! jesus!!!!! Off topic. Does anyone know if the new Pope will have to file a FBAR? I was having a discussion with someone about the curious situation with the new Pope. He’s head of a different state and a US citizen. Some strange tax and political situations will arise at some point. I don’t think the Pope has income – prob below the filing limit, lol. He is now the head of the Vatican bank. MAGA looks more and more, step by step, like Mao’s cultural revolution. Mao’s America Gutted Again = MAGA ? And we all know how central planning works out – misery for everyone. It was Harris who supported Mao’s Cultural Revolution, with her word salad about being unencumbered by the past, which is what Mao wanted in eliminating the Four Olds of Chinese culture. Trump is standing up for American culture. May be that Cultural revolution wasn’t about culture, maybe that Trump doesn’t care about culture (has anybody heard about Trump going to any cultural event?), maybe that part of MAGA is the same like radical students (will Trump send them to blue cities??) and may be that the Gang of Four are Navarro, Lunatnick, Bessent and Miran. But I agree, Harris was a disaster. Professor are the ennemy From jd Vance? Mish, my advice, which is I realize is not worth much. Take a break from the current line of posting and try some different takes. I have been following you for what seems like twenty years now and greatly appreciate the blog. But the negativity is just overwhelming at this point and the comments section has become filled with TDS. Sorry, but it is my honest assessment. Mish, I’ve been following you since 2007 and as counterpoint to the comment above, I’d like for you to keep doing what you do best, analyze the marketplace and give us the truth no matter how much it hurts. Keep up the good work. And you’ve just earned another Mish elin™ star for triggering cult clowns again. It’s funny how there were no “you’re being too mean to Biden” comments the past four years but suddenly it’s too much. Lol. Another Mish elin™ star for making me laugh. I agree. I would like to see more posts about pure economics. I get that a lot of what is going on in the economic sphere is driven by what the Trump admin is doing, but blogs that rail againstTrump and comment sections that are running arguments between Trump supporters and Trump opposition are a dime a dozen and a big turn off. Don’t recall you saying anything along these lines when Biden was president, what’s changed? sorry pumpkin! here is other opinion. YOU TAKE BREAK FROM READING HERE! there is always FOX for you SORRY to inform you but Mish is not you personal and free informational slave A rational economic actor goes where the money is. about that TDS!! ====== Trump Admin To Accept ‘Palace In The Sky’ 747 Jet From Royal Family Of Qatar, ABC Says ========= A lot of us read Mish to get a different perspective from the Fox News and Newsmax propaganda you enjoy. and Trump cuts this program that SAVES money Another example that this administration is not interested in Americans saving any money Industry groups are not happy about the imminent demise of Energy Starhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/05/industry-groups-are-not-happy-about-the-imminent-demise-of-energy-star/ And now Trump can look down even more at us via his 400 million dollar gift https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121680511 Is America simply TOO FAR GONE to save? We are already (COPIED): “As of May 11, 2025, the United States’ total gross national debt is $36.21 trillion. This includes $28.90 trillion held by the public and $7.31 trillion held by intra-governmental accounts….” That is an amazingly ridiculous number. NOW, what does it matter if default will be inevitable. They might argue: LET’S SHOOT FOR $50 Trillion by 2030! We are TOO FAR GONE to care any longer. I am serious. WHAT IF WE STOPPED SPENDING ANY MONEY on Government ops. I think that things would actually improve immediately. Imagine a world where not ONE DAILY IMBECILIC POLITICAL BULLSHIT STATEMENT IS UTTERED ON TV? WOW! DREAM DREAM DREAM. The boomers accumulated $80T in asset. They will liquidate their savings to survive bc SS and dividends are not good enough. They consume less Chinese stuff. They will leave less to their descendants. No easy feat, making Rand Paul look like the voice of reason. Perhaps to Kamala supporters or AOC fans, but they are operating in opposite world where idiot fanatics are deemed thoughtful, and enlightened. Era of U.S. dollar may be winding downhttps://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/05/era-of-u-s-dollar-may-be-winding-down/ Poor Canada! It dumped its official gold holdings in exchange for US$ about a decade ago. They have plenty of gold – in the ground, just ask Xi. I wish we had more Republicans like Rand Paul. We need to cut spending. It’s sad that RINO is now defined as anyone who disagrees with Trump, covid lockdown pushing, free money check writing, profligate spending Donald Trump. It’s textbook fascism 101. It’ll get worse from here, peak then collapse. Got exit strategy? I don’t see stupid policy, and cult followings as fascism especially when it usually comes from the crowd that thought covid policy from 2020-2022 wasn’t at all authoritarian when in reality it fit the modern epithet of fascist like a glove. Granted nobody seems to understand what fascism actually is. What I’m seeing is that after 100 years of authoritarian children running things we were finally getting a long overdue upsetting of the applecart. And rather than making a thoughtful effort to right the ship we are getting this clown show. Paul and Massie are possibly the only 2 useful members of the republican party, and Trump is unleashing his sheltered workshop army on them. Its kind of depressing, but there isn’t an exit strategy. Where would you go? Europe? They are canceling election results they don’t like and arresting people for memes. Where would you go? Europe? They are canceling election results they don’t like and arresting people for memes. https://www.axios.com/2025/05/10/trump-ice-arrest-house-democrats-new-jersey As opposed to the current administration arresting political opponents. And if you can’t figure out where to go then you’re right where you belong. I guess that comes down to whether the people in question assaulted law enforcement as is claimed. Those arrests would then be in a different universe than arresting people for social media posts. The violence is speech, and speech is violence crowd don’t have an argument. The judge Dugan getting arrested is totalitarianism and an attack on the judiciary don’t have an argument. And of course Europe as well as NY are big on arresting political opponents. I think Trumps inclinations are much like the lefts namely cracking down on speech we don’t like. The main place that has manifested is funding cuts and non-citizen deportations over comments. Thats concerning, but its not in the universe of the flat out totalitarianism we are seeing in Europe. Primary Paul? MAGA is having serious issues in deep red Texas. The end is nigh for MAGA. https://www.lonestarleft.com/p/magas-very-bad-night-in-texas The Republican Party poured money, endorsements, and out-of-state personalities into these Tarrant County races, and they got wiped. Every single candidate backed by Patriot Mobile, the far-right Christian nationalist group trying to take over school boards, lost. That’s losses in Mansfield ISD, Keller ISD, and Grapevine-Colleyville ISD. A clean sweep. The Republican Party poured money, endorsements, and out-of-state personalities into these Tarrant County races, and they got wiped. Every single candidate backed by Patriot Mobile, the far-right Christian nationalist group trying to take over school boards, lost. That’s losses in Mansfield ISD, Keller ISD, and Grapevine-Colleyville ISD. A clean sweep. Mid-terms are just 540 days away and empty shelves are only 6 weeks away. Texas was always destined to be feudalist, no matter what colors it was painted or flag flown. Please define what a “Republican” is (i.e. define the platform). I truly don’t know. Historically speaking the expectation is republicans minimize the role of government in society, cut spending, and reduce taxes. You can throw in opposition to the woke fever swamp as another marker. Now RINO just means I don’t support Trump’s latest hairbrain scheme. Trump was a D on the Phil Donahue and Oprah shows. He gave plenty of money and Manhattan office space to Jesse Jackson’s presidential campaign. (Not to be confused with Steinbrenner and Reggie Jackson) He changed uniforms when Jeb! (Please Applaud) showed up to be the fall guy for It’s Her Turn. Simple game theory. He never heard of Calvin Coolidge. That was several decades ago. I am trying to remember when Republicans voted to cut spending as a whole. Voting to cut taxes without cutting the spending is worse than not doing anything at all. None of the cohort I know that voted for Trump considers Massie or Paul as RINOs. Frankly I don’t know why we’re quoting TinaAnn or CJMoore, one sounds like a Gilligan’s Island actress and another a football player. I wish everyone would get to work on the budget and I would hazard a guess that Mish’s attempt to get the budget in order had far more honest work to reach it than most members. Rand and Massie are what principled governance looks like. Well said, Mish. You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.

• • • Trump’s tariffs and preposterous taunts Canada led to liberals to victory in Canada. Canadians Elect Mark Carney’s Liberals to Confront Trump The Wall Street Journal reports Canadians Elect Mark Carney’s Liberals to Confront Trump Canadians kept the Liberal Party in power, entrusting Prime Minister Mark Carney to forge a new course for their struggling economy and stand up to President Trump. Carney’s Liberals were set to win a fourth term in national elections on Monday, Canadian broadcast networks said. It wasn’t clear whether his Liberals would win a majority of seats or a smaller share that would require them to win support from other parties to govern, the broadcaster said. Carney, former head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England, became prime minister after Justin Trudeau stepped down in January. Carney’s victory is a remarkable one for a Liberal Party headed for defeat at the start of this year. The Conservatives, led by Pierre Poilievre, had more than a 20-point lead, reflecting voter fatigue with a three-term Trudeau administration and anger over inflation and high housing costs. Trudeau’s resignation and Trump’s return to the White House precipitated a reversal in fortunes for the Liberals under Carney, who said he was the best candidate to handle Trump and reshape an economy dependent on U.S. demand. Left-leaning politicians in Australia and the U.K., too, have benefited from appearing to best embody opposition to Trump’s plans. Carney has said Canada needs to lower internal trade barriers and do more business with Europe and Asia after decades of ever-tightening economic and security cooperation with the U.S. He touted his experience leading the Bank of Canada during the financial crisis and the Bank of England after the U.K. voted to leave the European Union. “Carney has the economic know-how to deal with a childlike Trump,” Maria Longo, a mortgage broker from Montreal, said over the weekend ahead of the vote. “Trump is ruining the world.” Poilievre suffered for rhetoric too similar to Trump’s, pollsters said. Abacus Data polling last week indicated that 46% of Canadians held a negative perception of Poilievre, the highest level since the start of the campaign. Tariffs and Taunts Trump repeated taunts that Canada should become the 51 US state despite the fact that it helped liberals. Trump broke his own “best in history” USMCA trade deal with Canada and Mexico that he personally negotiated. And for much of the year, Trump treated Canada worse than China. As a result, another liberal clown is heading up the Canadian government. Effectively, Trump was on the ballot in Canada, and lost. Lost Opportunity Had Conservatives won, Trump could have forged better ties over energy and cooperated on rare earth minerals. Instead, the outcome is bad for Canada and bad for the US. Related Posts March 11, 2025: Canada First – Trump Unites Canada and Mexico Against the US It wasn’t easy, but Trump united Canada and Mexico against the US. April 1, 2025: Excluding Oil, the US Has a Trade Surplus with Canada Every Year Since 2008 Let’s do a fact check on Trump’s Canada claims. Please read over and over Cheese Was a “Key Achievement” of Trump’s USMCA Trade Agreement The above post contains over a dozen instances in which Trump bragged what a great deal. It was such a great deal that Trump thanked Mexico and Canada. Notably USMCA is “Good for everybody – Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions – tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country’s worst Trade Deal, NAFTA!” Then he trashed the best trade relationship in the whole world, for less than nothing. The US and Canada both lose from Trumpian idiocies. Canadians Elect Mark Carney’s Liberals to Confront Trump The Wall Street Journal reports Canadians Elect Mark Carney’s Liberals to Confront Trump Canadians kept the Liberal Party in power, entrusting Prime Minister Mark Carney to forge a new course for their struggling economy and stand up to President Trump. Carney’s Liberals were set to win a fourth term in national elections on Monday, Canadian broadcast networks said. It wasn’t clear whether his Liberals would win a majority of seats or a smaller share that would require them to win support from other parties to govern, the broadcaster said. Carney, former head of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England, became prime minister after Justin Trudeau stepped down in January. Carney’s victory is a remarkable one for a Liberal Party headed for defeat at the start of this year. The Conservatives, led by Pierre Poilievre, had more than a 20-point lead, reflecting voter fatigue with a three-term Trudeau administration and anger over inflation and high housing costs. Trudeau’s resignation and Trump’s return to the White House precipitated a reversal in fortunes for the Liberals under Carney, who said he was the best candidate to handle Trump and reshape an economy dependent on U.S. demand. Left-leaning politicians in Australia and the U.K., too, have benefited from appearing to best embody opposition to Trump’s plans. Carney has said Canada needs to lower internal trade barriers and do more business with Europe and Asia after decades of ever-tightening economic and security cooperation with the U.S. He touted his experience leading the Bank of Canada during the financial crisis and the Bank of England after the U.K. voted to leave the European Union. “Carney has the economic know-how to deal with a childlike Trump,” Maria Longo, a mortgage broker from Montreal, said over the weekend ahead of the vote. “Trump is ruining the world.” Poilievre suffered for rhetoric too similar to Trump’s, pollsters said. Abacus Data polling last week indicated that 46% of Canadians held a negative perception of Poilievre, the highest level since the start of the campaign. Tariffs and Taunts Trump repeated taunts that Canada should become the 51 US state despite the fact that it helped liberals. Trump broke his own “best in history” USMCA trade deal with Canada and Mexico that he personally negotiated. And for much of the year, Trump treated Canada worse than China. As a result, another liberal clown is heading up the Canadian government. Effectively, Trump was on the ballot in Canada, and lost. Lost Opportunity Had Conservatives won, Trump could have forged better ties over energy and cooperated on rare earth minerals. Instead, the outcome is bad for Canada and bad for the US. Related Posts March 11, 2025: Canada First – Trump Unites Canada and Mexico Against the US It wasn’t easy, but Trump united Canada and Mexico against the US. April 1, 2025: Excluding Oil, the US Has a Trade Surplus with Canada Every Year Since 2008 Let’s do a fact check on Trump’s Canada claims. Please read over and over Cheese Was a “Key Achievement” of Trump’s USMCA Trade Agreement The above post contains over a dozen instances in which Trump bragged what a great deal. It was such a great deal that Trump thanked Mexico and Canada. Notably USMCA is “Good for everybody – Farmers, Manufacturers, Energy, Unions – tremendous support. Importantly, we will finally end our Country’s worst Trade Deal, NAFTA!” Then he trashed the best trade relationship in the whole world, for less than nothing. The US and Canada both lose from Trumpian idiocies. Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts. Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time. This post originated on MishTalk.Com Thanks for Tuning In! Mish Mike Shedlock Comments to this post are now closed. The Trump turmoil will eventually go away and it will probably happen well before his term is up. Meanwhile Canada is stuck with what they voted for and have likely cut off their nose to spite their face. The election result has really got people in Alberta talking about splitting from Canada and going independent or joining the US. It has alienated western provinces and people are angry. I’m surprised at the determination of these folks as they are having meetings to seriously discuss it. It’s mostly the rural voters and not the city people who feel this way. We’ll see if the sentiment lasts but the idea of joining the US is gaining momentum. Haha Maybe the people of canada looked at the us and Israel and saw what the right is these days. decided they would rather take the chance of having to peeing beside some dude in a dress than all this winning. right, vote for the WEF central banker. Brilliant. How’s the economy and crime up there? People vote how they want to. They also get what they vote for. The WEF gay banker would have won regardless in Canukastan since it’s banker land, like the gay EU, gay US, etc, run by billionaires. Now if Amazon–originally ancient female warriors— would only list all the foreign country tariffs it pays on their products sold to be fair and balanced in a mercantile world of equal opportunity with equal outcomes. Alas, if that world existed all those states would have speedy executions for equal opportunity killers with equal outcomes for all their murdering whether from the wealthy upper 1% of murdering bankers or the bottom 1% of gang bangers, foreign or domestic. Funny how equal opportunity with equal outcomes never seems to happen in the republic of rinos and dinos. . . . . . Trump is sinking America. By putting Canada at the forefront of international trade and moving away from American policy, Mark Carney will allow America to fail on its own. lol, Mark Carney is Canada’s Dollar Store Tim Walz. Ding ding ding. Trump doesn’t want the liberal shitholes. He wants the natural resources. Help elect a liberal to piss off Alberta even more. Then Alberta begs Trump to become the 51st state. Yup. Although I don’t think it was really his plan to begin with because when the libs chances turned sharply in March, Trump toned it down to stop hurting Poilievre. However now that a green social justice machavellian is in charge, Trump will happily take Alberta seeing as we aren’t doing anything with it. I suspect now that the election is over and the conservatives lost, Trump will double down on the hyperbole and turn Carney in to his personal little female dog. Take deep breaths Canada and don’t clench up, it only makes it worse. Never stop an enemy when they are destroying themselves, or a neighboring country for that matter. That 4 lane highway from Seattle to the Yukon might be done before the highspeed rail connecting Los Angeles to Las Vegas or Sanfranwhateveritsthesedays.. The only part worth having is Alberta with their oil. With liberals in charge they’ll be ready to join the US which would be a win for Trump. They’ve been under liberal leadership for a couple of decades. only one decade, and hating every minute of it. Stranded assets, burned churches, and ever higher carbon taxes have made Albertan’s very angry. The only thing that kept them from revolting was the thought that it would soon be over. But now faced with 4 more years of an even more staunch advocate of Net Zero in charge, the gloves are off. This liberal win is an existential threat to Alberta. The liberal insanity of recent years is on another level. nonsense the BC hydro alone could balance the national deficit, thats a lot of cannabis waiting to be properly distributed in the retail supply chain. The entire country is swimming in cannabis so there is a glut of supply but I am doing my part to bring it back into equilibrium. Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre lost his own seat. He was all set to be the next Prime Minister of Canada before Trump disgorged his load of offensive nonsense at our neighbors. Heck of a job, Donny! Canadia just punched themselves in the nuts because they hate Trump. Good plan, hosers. It would appear that the Canadian electorate are gluttons for punishment. By the time Carney and his cadres are finished, Canadians will be begging to become “the 51st state”. I fully agree. Although only 44% voted for this abuse, but the majority of that group are immigrants, the elderly, and poor all of which have benefited greatly from, and have little negative consequences of, that last 10 years of social justice warring. So really they’re just voting for the abuse of middle class. Win-win for them until the gov runs out of other people’s money. I tend to agree that Trump was on the ballot and that he needlessly provoked Canada with terms like the 51st state. Trump’s good work on border security and anti-woke stuff is now being overshadowed by his poor playbook on trade. He has limited time to change course. I love it that Bezos is putting the tariff cost right on the price of the Amazon website. Trump and the shite house minions call it “A hostile and political act”. No surprise that the truth is hostile to trump and his minions. China will not even talk to these lying idiots! Our former unquestioned ally Canada voted to stand up to trump and its citizens are boycotting the U.S. Worldwide, the U.S. is the laughing stock of the world and losing credibility quickly Trump calls this “Winning” Who does he work for? I wonder if MAGAs are excited for the US midterms yet Trump should have worked through his majority in Congress. But no, he had to do it by decree, by confused “shock and awe.” His style of “leadership” is indistinguishable from reality TV, and ends up menacing (to any and all, from one moment to the next) plus ludicrous. He is only impressing himself and his little circle of weird sycophants. Trump was useful to shake off some big torpor about immigration, cultural slippage, and China. But he is close to having outlived that already, and has risen (thanks to levers given him by Project 2025 machinations, plus his hubris) to his level of incompetence. Trump’s foreign and domestic political “shock and awe” will work about as well as W. Bush’s foreign military one did in Iraq: it dizzies everyone temporarily, but just alienates increasing numbers. We will hear no apologies from the MAGA faithful, who will, true to their prior fealty to W. Bush, switch their minds, and forget what they wrought (conveniently or just stupidly). That kind of accountability has never been their strong suit, inside the presidency or in the streets. And in both presidencies, the USA will have suffered historic losses in a time which could have been authentic, historic winning. Our loss of leadership this time around is owed to this bunch, who can’t accept anything shared whatsoever. It’s all zero-sum in Trump’s mind, always. They have to (think they can) have it all, while doing their version of tough-guy fantasizing, navel-gazing. Yes, the world is going to abandon the USA to its lowest common denominator of people. The world is now looking to China for economic leadership. China is actively working to internationalize the renminbi. Trump marks the end of American “greatness” because his voters never really understood what actually made America great. But hey, we’ll still be able to publicly make fun of trans people! And that is so worth the loss of wealth and dignity! give them a couple years in the Chinese embrace and they’ll be begging for a reach around from Uncle Sam.. You just can’t fix stupid. this may be a 3d chess moment. Trump for some reason was touting Carney over Pollievre.. makes zero sense.. unless there was a deal. Touting Canada as 51st state the day of the election also seemingly would help Carney, as Canadians hate when he says that, so why would he say that if he wantedCarney to lose.. im waiting to see how this plays out Trump can’t play 2D chess let alone 3 or 4. Is is a blowhard and an economic illiterate love the “Is is”!! even the owner of the site has problems with the editing tools on here.. we pontificate only to be slain by our own grammar, i deal with it every day here, there and everywhere. Still a hundred days is not the entire measure of the man, why not wait for the 3rd act to talk in absolutes? The plot is still developing.. More like three dimensional whack-a-mole. For the most part he’s been a disappointment so far. nope. border/deportations similar to what Obama did right, CDC/FDA/NIH appointments already making headway, shrinking the administrative state and the accompanying whaling from the entitled brats living in DC who said nothing during covid layoffs. The tariff mess is mostly a failure because it’s not clear what the goal is. i’d rather the whitehouse be vacant for a decade versus our current war mongering zion don schizo and the previous war mongering genocidal joe biden maniac. you’ll be ok. Breathe into a paper sack for a few minutes. The room will stop spinning. EU & UK defy Trump. Sign own trade deal. https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-eu-defy-trump-free-open-trade-declaration/ Britain and the European Union are set to sign a formal declaration committing to “free and open trade” in defiance of Donald Trump’s tariff agenda. A leaked draft seen by POLITICO promises a “new strategic partnership” between London and Brussels based on “maintaining global economic stability and our mutual commitment to free and open trade.” A leaked draft seen by POLITICO promises a “new strategic partnership” between London and Brussels based on “maintaining global economic stability and our mutual commitment to free and open trade.” Lol….it almost looks like Trump is getting the UK back in the EU. oh the irony. Winning! /s This what happens (worse to come) when you vote for and elect a mentally ill person to the highest office. FAFO ! Did not know that Carney suffers from mental illness. Good luck Canada! shame really he seems normal when compared to the cross dressing shoplifter that was working in the DOE for Biden. Sam Brinton American nuclear waste disposal expert. Well canadians know what kind of crazy they like in a ruler… China trade surplus is one trillion dollars. 25% of that is with the US. Trump’s Monroe doctrine and the EU can stop China mercantilism. The EU will produce more stuff internally. They need Russia for that. Russia small economy is squeezed between two powerful superstates: the EU and China. Putin can benefit by being nice to the US and the EU, after Biden sent him to the Iranians arms and to China. He might be back in the G-7. The US and the European might invest both in Russia and Ukraine, to stop China and Turkey mercantilism. If Trump had your astuteness and focus, we might get somewhere. But I think you are giving him far too much credit. too much credit is what got us into this mess… Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told WSJ in a statement about Trump’s move to ease the pain for automakers: President Trump is building an important partnership with both the domestic automakers and our great American workers. This deal will be a major victory for the president’s trade policy by rewarding companies who are already manufacturing domestically, while providing a runway to manufacturers who have expressed their commitment in investing in America and expanding domestic manufacturing. This deal will be a major victory for the president’s trade policy by rewarding companies who are already manufacturing domestically, while providing a runway to manufacturers who have expressed their commitment in investing in America and expanding domestic manufacturing. In a separate statement to Bloomberg, Lutnick said: This deal is a major victory for the president’s trade policy by rewarding companies who manufacture domestically while providing runway to manufacturers who have expressed their commitment to invest in America and expand their domestic manufacturing. ==== ==== ONLY ONE question how is Trump’s sphincter taste? so Trump returned things (more or less ) how they were before tariffs idiocy and now it is victory? jesus! Does this translate to: “Trump is an idiot and declared these tariffs without a plan and now has caved in completely. We sure wish we could return to our former trading relationships and get our credibility back.” We do not know how to get China to talk to us though, it seems they are holding all the face cards at this time and all we have is the Orange Joker! it does for sure! China is a house of cards that needs the US market. China has virtually no oil and not enough food even with a declining population. Chinese state numbers are wrong and guess which side they skew? Internal consumption is too low. China has no face cards. The US is a house of cards, It needs a shitload of stuff from China such as rare earth elements that only China has. And if you bothered to think, Trump has midterm elections to worry about and China doesnt Macron stole Bombardier. China got it for free.Trump Bullies Canada, sending the second Pierre home. Trump 25% tariffs will destroy Canada car Industry and her banks. If Carney fights back it will be nasty for both sides. Canada is squeezed between Russia and the US, two powerful nations, protected by the US as a NATO member. The carrot: if Carney becomes friendly the US will invest in their energy sector, build pipelines and beef up their defense industries. Canada is too liberal and pacifist. Foreign entities and gangs are out of control in Canada. Canada has problems with Trump and Modi. Vastly smarter for Canada to turn to China as their major trading partner. China needs Canada’s vast natural resources and has the technology to make the necessary investments. America is too unreliable and ignorant. surely sleeping with chairman mao can’t have any bad repercussions, what a great idea. The Chinese already own British Columbia, so they’ve made more than a fair down payment. If you thought importing Indians was problematic, wait for the Chinese Gang wars and the Chinese Bankers, can’t tell them apart without a program… I don’t think it’s bad for Canada that the liberal party won, in fact i think Carney’s goal of making Canada more independent of the U.S. & forging a more diverse economy is a good one. Any leader/admin that has taken such lawless and unconstitutional actions at the peril of their citizens as this one would alarm any country that values democracy and lawful adherence to their constitution. Treating citizens & career gov’t officials as enemies of the state is exceedingly discouraging to observers who value these things. I congratulate Canada. The bubble that created Trump is the reason he’s stumbling The White House is now a bubble where loyalty, not ability, defines success. Opinion | Trump’s second term is trapped inside the bubble it built – The Washington Post (archive.ph) I think Trump put another liberal country wrecker in charge so he gets a better deal on the 51st state. with a little effort we can probably get it for less than we paid for Alaska, but the cleanup is gonna take decades. Maybe USAID can get started on the brainwashing NGO’s to soften things up a bit. Viktoria Newland where are you when we need you ???? Unlike the current administration of USA, Canada is run following our legislated laws, through a process of democracy. When you state that the out come of the Federal Canadian election was “bad for Canadians”, some times that is what happens in a democracy. How can any American be critical of a foreign election, with what happened in the last two Federal elections in USA. The party leader of the losing party in Canada, immediately congratulated Mr. Carney for winning. What a novel idea. When did that last happen in USA ? I can’t even remember the last time Carney ran for office in the United States, let alone whether anyone congratulated him.. The US routinely disapproves and impugns the results of elections in foreign countries. They only embrace it when some US boot-licking comprador gets in somehow. Like his first administration, the Trump-Turd-Touch™ is real. Everything Trump touches turns to turd. Trumps economic policy = Turdonomics™ Trumps foreign policy = Turdactional™ foreign policy And it’s all taking us to the Trumpocalypse™ America can’t take any more winning and the mid-terms can’t get here fast enough. America is ready for 3rd impeachment. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/28/articles-of-impeachment-trump-shri-thanedar Just wait till store shelves across America are empty. Mark the date, MAGA is over. it is called = Midas on Potomac policy = (c) me :))) When the store shelves go empty impeachment may not be necessary. They won’t go empty. Trump will have long since caved on everything. Harvard’s already kicked his ass on the woke stuff and the rest of America will just go back. He’s only sent a few thousand immigrants back out of millions and that will get less over time. Like his first administration, it will only take a few months before he completely face plants. Nothing much will change except less wealth and the utter embarrassment of being an American when traveling overseas. I’m getting a t-shirt with a big red maple leaf and practicing my Canadian accent. I wouldn’t be so negative – I think this backlash to Trump is not a full on swing to leftish policies. While Mark Carney obviously has a big history in promoting green policies I suspect he is going to really tone down this and go after pragmatic wins. In the UK, there is a realisation that idealistic policies don’t work for normal people and if the centre doesn’t do something about it they will be made irrelevant. Some news articles today about Blackrock investing in the UK as the penny appears to have dropped with the UK government that growth doesn’t come from regulation. Perhaps Trump was the medicine we needed (however distasteful). Most Americans vote on personality rather than policy. If you presented most liberal policies as coming from Trump and the republican party I think most voters would approve. Tariffs are a traditionally leftist policy as well as standing by social security and Medicare. Leftists are also traditionally anti-war. Trump Republicans are essentially New Deal Democrats even with the old racism (anti-DEI) thrown in. Another good swift kick in the nuts for trump and his bullying team of nitwits. Isolating America is not a great strategy for being able to export anything. China is rejecting U.S. LNG shipments and diverting them back to sea. Two weeks ago the U.S. loaded 129 billion cu ft of natural gas onto ships. Last week that number fell to 109 billion cu ft just as higher capacity came on line. That is a 20% drop thanks to trump. Volvo’s truck division in the U.S. let go of 800 workers, citing a sharp drop in demand and an uncertain future. As with his mis-management of covid, trump is bringing American trade to a standstill. Trump is not negotiating with China or Japan and his statement that everyone is calling me and “kissing my ass” is pure bullshit. Deport trump! good to see everyone here is as rational as ever. well see you in a week and we can catch up on the madness du jour and have a reason to be angry together and continue to enjoy these special moments… Expect to see a lot more of this among our former allies. Candidates who promise to stand up to Trump will be well rewarded by their voters. Elections have consequences and this one is especially important as one of the worlds premier bankers has been elected to stand up to trumps economic and physical threats. Unlike trump, Carney has connections all over the world and is dedicated to building economic networks. Canada is now preparing to export its oil and lumber to markets around the world as the U.S. falls into a severe recession. Like all nations that relied on a stable U.S. government Canada will reach out to others since we are no longer a trusted ally. Peace and prosperity is a thing of the past for many thanks to trump… Elections have consequences! So a quick recap from Canada: 1) Carney hasn’t won the election yet, because absent a majority, he will either have to tack right or tack left to stay in power a) The tack right will be more government spending, more unfunded tax cuts and more military spending b) The tack left will be more government spending, more unfunded tax cuts and more social spending c) You won’t really know until 3-4am EST so calm down folks 2) the youth vote has theoretically moved right because a) the Liberals managed to ruin one of the best run immigration systems in the world but putting the Dunning-Kruger’s at McKinsey in charge of immigration, who decided that Canada’s population should magically rise to 100 million and b) because the poor saps believed the road to wealth and economic prosperity is via home ownership. Like our American cousins, we have multiple generations peppered with a plurality who find things like productivity, skill and ability to be somewhere between perplexing and incomprehensible as concepts. Imagine attempting to introduce accountability and responsibility. The majority are thus required to carry the heavy burden of the plurality. 3) Carney is a Goldman Sachs alumni through and through which means we just elected Alan Greenspan to run Canada. Or, more succinctly, the oligarchs who actually run Canada got tired of trying to influence a light-weight PM with subtlety and just decided to replace him with one of their own guys. 4) Alberta won’t separate or be integrated into the US. Ditto for Quebec. Goldmans will be too busy kicking Trump in the gonads for the mid-terms; the message will be simple, give us corporate tax cuts, stop playing with tariffs and anti-trust or be placed in a monkey cage for your last 2 years. In return, you’ll get immunity from the GS appointed President (let’s pretend that there’s a difference between the Dems Prez and the demi-Dems Prez for entertainment purposes) who follows, and boat-loads of cash… or maybe just keep the shit you’ve already stolen. 5) Folks, Alberta is about the size of Afghanistan with similar terrain and even more punishing weather. You get everything you want from the place, at a discount, from people who say please and thank you when you fleece them for their crude. Which they gladly repurchase, at a premium after you value add (refine) it. They’ll sell you a hunting license, let you camp and RV there for cheap and even return the pittance you pay in federal sales tax, if you ask nicely and don’t mind red tape. Sweet Jesus you would make Bush Jr. look like a genius if you attempted to annex/invade the place. Take it easy, nothing in Canada has actually changed; they’ve flipped some pieces on a checkers set and pretended the game is chess. Alberta is gorgeous….just saying. This is one of those events in history that in retrospect will have marked the end of an era. What era it ended and what comes next, it’s too early to say, but I am sure it will be interesting. Right. Like the Zelenskyy blow up in the oval? This will be buried in a day once the liberals create the next Trump scandal. . “once the liberals create the next Trump scandal” Trump needs no help in creating scandals, it’s may be the only thing he’s very good at doing. So unbelievably disappointing. The entire election platform of the Liberals was about Trump, that’s all the Canadian MSM peddled, thanks to Trump and his stupid never ending rhetoric the election was handed back to the Liberals. Trump has absolutely no filter. Good, as I hope Carney turns Canada more into a white liberal shithole. Wish granted. Now Trump can add more liberals to the U.S. by making it the 51st state. Turns out Trump is making the world left again. Maybe he’s been a secret liberal agent the whole time? Who says Trump has to take all of Canada? He doesn’t want the liberal provinces he wants the resource rich provinces. It’s a win/win for both countries. The libs think they got a win by making Canada more liberal. And the rest of Canada wins by becoming the 51st state. Well he better hurry up and do it, the impeachment clock is ticking….so is the democratic congress takeover. tick…tick…tick… Ready for dejavu all over again? He’s already been impeached twice. The only thing the dems have to show for it is four more years of Trump. Canada is going to especially lose from this election. Whatever Carney does on the economic front with the US isn’t going to matter much when he isn’t going to change any of the liberal polices that matter (unbounded immigration that’s caused a housing affordability crises and health care serves crisis, a continuation of the net zero carbon policies that include high carbon taxes and non-investment in oil/gas and green boondoggles). Those are the policies that have caused the Canadian standard of living to drop and nothing is going to change there. So no matter what he does or doesn’t do with Trump, things are only going to get worse in Canada. I feel sorry for my family and fellow Canadians who have no idea that things are going to get much worse in the next 4 years. Forgot to mention that if the energy policies don’t change (and I doubt they are going to) that there is going to be a rising separatist movement in the West that Carney is going to have to deal with during his time in power. Possibly to the point of a vote like the ones Quebec had in the 70s and 90s because the US (ie Trump) would welcome the oil/gas rich provinces with open arms and lots of investment money. The Canadians are grownups I assume so if they want a socialist they can vote for one. I rather doubt that Trump had much to do with it because the Conservatives were just as hard on Trump’s words as Carney. The fact is that Quebec because of its French statist roots will always vote to the Left. Add that to the English-speakers who are naturally predisposed to vote Left makes Canada durably socialist and we must work with that. It doesn’t mean we should give them special economic privileges with counterparties but we should expect Canada to fall further behind. At some point it will need economic assistance if their policies continue. “At some point it will need economic assistance if their policies continue.” Lol. I think it’s the US that is in desperate need of economic assistance no? If not, then why the tariff and trade wars if everything is so awesome? Canada doesn’t have 80m geezer socialists on social programs eating up the budget either but I’m sure you knew that already. Your comments have become progressively more incoherent lately. Is it due to Trump or is there a personal reason? There is nothing incoherent about my comment but if you’re having difficulty understanding please seek medical help. France has very good healthcare. I suggest tests for Alzheimer’s and dementia. A man of your statue, knowledge, experience shouldn’t be having difficulty nor resorting to cheap shots. Seek help immediately, you may be having a stroke too. It does happen as one ages. Carney is a central banker, not a socialist. In fact the socialist party (NDP) was essentially wiped out in this election. Canadians have decided to let a central banker run their economy hoping he can fix things but as I noted, his party isn’t going to allow any meaningful changes (immigration, energy, green etc) that would allow that to happen. It’s going to be really interesting to see him attempt to ‘sell’ his ideas to Canadians given he has no real political skills (speaking/charming). I wish Midnight were still here, he loves to rub the will of the people in everyone’s faces so how do you like them Canadian apples? He is a cowboy and decided to return to Times Square. Yup. carney will continue to run Canada into the ground. So now Trump will get Canada at a much better price. and?!? The Canucks just flucked themselves over! Boo hoo so sad too bad. I have no sympathy anymore. A stupid comment – which you would understand if you bothered to either read or think. You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.