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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION/PRIVACY ACTS SECTION
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SUBJECT: JACK SOBLE

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SOBLE FIRST azruszn TO coma DOWN FROM CELL, sur THEN CONSENTED T0 coM§I
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SOBLE STATED THAT HE DID NOT DISH TO BE IHTERVIEHED UNTIL HE HAD TALKEE
NO PARTICULAR ATTORNEY IN MIND! T;TO AN ATTORNEY, AND SAID THAT HE HAD
TAIHING AN ATTORNEY. THE ITENZED»;BUT THAT HIS BROTHER, ROBERT, UAS O
LIST OF PPOPEPTY U1 TO SO°_F M . .. . ED QLM AND I S GLASSES HERE SENT FOR
BECAUSE HE HAD FORGOTTEN THEM. HHILE UAITING FOR HIS GLASSES, SOBLE ii
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SOBLE SAID HOHHOS AND FLATLY REFUSED TO COMMENT FURTHER. I
SOELE THEN COHPLAINED THAT HE HAD NOT SLEPT AND HAD A BAD HEADACH- 
SOBLE THEN READ AND SIGNED ITEHIZED LIST OF PROPERTY REMOVED FRON HISj
DE MONTRABEL TO _APARTMENT. ARRANGHEHTS HERE MADE UITH OFFICER PIERRE
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I PREVIOUS NIGHT AND URGED TO RECONSIDER"SERIOUSNESS OF HIS PHEDICANENT-
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TOLD MORROS THAT ALBAH HAS A PHOTOSR
INCIDENT OF HASDIT APHER. SOBLE ADVISED HE RECALLS "
T ; FULL OF HONEY T0 MORROS TO CARRY THROUGH
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JACK SOBLE,&#39;%ET AL; ESP DASH R. PRELIMINARY INTERVIEVTHAD
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TO TWELVE NOON AND ONE FIFTEEN P.M TO THREE TWENTY TWO P-M., -
APRIL ELEVENTH INSTANT. MYRA STATED DESIRES TO COOPERATE FULLY
AND ANYTHING SHE SAYS IS TRUTH. QUESTIONED PRIMARILY OF PERSONAL
KNOWIEDGE OF ANY AMERICAN CONTACTS AND HEROWN ACTIVITIES IN
US AS SOVIET AGENT. MYRA STATED HAS NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF
ESPIONAGE ACTIVITIES OF DR. ROBERT SOBLE OR DINA SOBLE. STATED
MET ESTHERARAND AND HUSBAND IN NINETEEN FORTY FIVE, KNOWS ESTHER N
FURNISHED JACK SOBLE WITH INFORMATION ON JEWISH ACTIVITIES AND
ORGANIZATIONS, RANDS KNEW SOBLE AS SOVIET AGENT, AND I1-IAT RANDS
INTRODUCED ALICE AND JAMES MARTIN TO SOBLES. MYRA INTRODUCED
ALBAM TO ALICE MARTIN SO LATTER COULD GET HIM A BRIDE. MYRA
BELIEVES ALICE KNEW OF BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE OF ALBAM. MYRA
MET NAMES MARTIN JULY NINETEEN FIFTY TO GET A REPORT FROM HIM
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WHICH HE REFUSED AND IMPLIED WOULD FURNISH NO FURTHER REPORTS.
MYRA WENT TO. EUROPE AUGUST NINETEEN FIFTY AND WROTE REPORT
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TO WHAT PRINCIPAL OR WHERE. MYRA DENIED GIVING RANDS OR MARTINS
ANY PAYMENTS BUT STATED BANDS AND MARTINS KNEW SOBLEAS SOVIET
AGENT. ADMITTED GIVING CASH TO ALBAM. MYRA DENIED ANY OTHER
ESPIONAGE ACTIVITY IN US. AEMITTED SHE ENTERTAINED VASSILI
ZARUBIN AND WIFE, MIKHAIL CHALIAPIN, MARTHA AND ALFRED STERN
AT I-[ER RESIDENCE, SDI THIRTY W. ONE SEVENTIETH ST., NYC.
ADMITTED KNOWING ILYA WOLSTON AS SOVIET AGENT, BUT CANNOT
RECALL ACTIVITIES. DENIED KNOWING OTHER SOVIET AGENTS IN US.
ADMITTED ACTING AS COURIER IN EUROPE EOR JACK AND WRITING HER
OWN REPORTS, CONTENTS NOT NOW RECALLED, FOR DELIVERY TO SOVIETS.
STATED MET ALEXANDER M. KOROTKOV PAREN SACHA UNPAREN NINETEEN-
FIFTY AT GENEVA, SWITZERLAND, FOR HIS APPROVAL OF HER. MET A
TWO BERNE SOVIET CONSULAR OFFICIALS AT BERNE-WITH JACK, NINETEEN
FIFTY TO RECEIVE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, MET SAME BERNE CONSULAR
OFFICIALS TWICE NINETEEN FIFTYONEAS SUBSTITUTE FOR JACK.
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OR PHOTO OF LUCY JANE BOOKER, REBECCA GETZOFF, JOSEPH KATZ,
EMILY, PAUL OR CLARA LEMPORT, EDNTUND JELENKO, GIZELIA HUBER,
DAVID BERTIN, LEAH MALAMENT, PIERRETTE AND EARLE PITTMAN,
STEFAN N. CHOUNDENKO, ABHANASY YERIMOV, AIEKSEI TIKHIMIROV,
RETR V. FEDOTOV, VASSILI MOLEV, GREGORY MAI.-AMED, M. KLESCHINOV,
IGOR SOKOLOV, STANISLAUS SHUI-.~OVSKY, C. PETROSIAN, ROSA
EISENBERG. DENIED KNOWLEDGE GROUP 11 BASH UNKNOWN SUBJECTS
AS LISTED IN TABLE OF CONTENTS, JUNE SUMMARY, DATED ONE JEN
LAST, PAGES ROMAN NUMERAL TWO THROUGI SIX, EXCEPT ONE:
PROFESSOR IN U. S. BELIEVED IDENTICAL WITH SOVIET CONSULAR
OFFICIAL MET N.Y~. NINETEEN FORTYSIX, SUCCESSOR TO CHALIAPIN,
NOT IDENTICAL WITH CHOUNDENKO, DESCRIBED MEDIUM HEIGHT,
DARK HAIR AND EYES, HEAVY SET, ALLEGEDLY KNOWN TO BORQS MORROS
AS MYRA ANDJACK JOKED WITH MORROS REGARDING PROFESSORS LONG
COAT HE ALWAYS WORE. IWO: ROBERT DASH MAY BE DR. ROBERT SOBLE AND
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ROBERT ST. JOHN AND MARRE KAHLER KNOWN AS PROPOSED ZLATOVSKIA» ». . -.
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EUGENIA AVTTCH, MADAME LUNTZ, AND mm OMTVEDT IQTOWN BUT
NOT INVOLVED ESPIONAGE.  TWENTY srx! PAUL AND ALICE LOWBEER,
mxovm AS IN WHOSE HOME SOBLES MET DR. HENRY AND BEATRICE
SPITZ ABOUT WHWI MYRA TO BE MORE FULLY QUESTIONED.  TWENTY SEVEN!
ENRIQUE E.-AYER KNOWN ONLY AS RICH BUSINESS MAN ARGENTINA.
 TWENTY EIGHT! SRDJAN PRICA KNOWN AS YUGOSLAV, FORMER HUSBAND
LIZA ELIAS, PRESENT WIFE OF ALEXANDER ELIAS; LIZA ELIAS KNOWN
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THAT SHE WAS HELD IN RUSSIA NINETEEN THIRTYONE DASH NINETEEN
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TO DIRECTOR 27
FROM SAC NEW YORK 1OP
JACK SOBLE ESPfR. MOCASE. JACK SOBLE INTERVIEWED MORNING AND
AFTERNOON TouR&#39;TTLvE INSTANT AT FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION,
DANBURY, CONN. SOBLE ASSERTED THAT HE DESIRED TO COOPERATE FULLY AND
- 92DISCLOSE ALL INFO KNOWN TO HIM TRUTHFULLY AND IN DETAIL. SOBLE GAVE
92wTHE APPEARANCE OF BEING UNDER PHYSICAL AND MENTAL STRAIN. IN INTER:
VIEW HE ATTEMPTED TO RAMBLE AND TO DISCUSS MATTERS OTHER THAN POINT.
.
IN DISCUSSION. SOBLE WAS SLOW IN SPEECH AND GAVE THE APPEARANCE OF
ATTEMPTING TONRECALL NAMES, DATES, ETC. seam: STATED THAT AFTER/I .
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ARRIVAL IN THE US IN FORTYONE HE PROCEEDED TO BOSTON. SHORTLY THERE"
I~- no nAFTER HE UENT TO CANADA TO ASSIST HIS BROTHER BORIS SOBLE, IN THE
CANADIAN ANIMAL HAIR COMPANY UHICHUAS BEING BUILT. SOBLE STATED THAT
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THERE HAS APOLITICAL SPLIT IN HIS FAMILY WITH HIS FATHER MOTHER AND
SISTERS BECOMING ANTI COMMUNIST. SOBLE STATED THAT AFTER HE WENT TO
CANADA HE TRAVELLED SOMEWHAT IN RELATION TO THE CANADIAN ANIMAL HAIR
EUSINESS. HE STATED THAT SOMETINE IN FORTYTUO HE RECEIVED A LETTER
FROM AMTORG SIGNED BY FOMIN, CHIEF OF THE BRISTLE DIVISION AT AMTORG,
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WHICH PROPOSED A SALE 0E*RUSSIAN BRISTLES. SOBLE ADVISED"AT-THIS» wig
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POINT THAT ON LEAVING RUSSIA NO FORNAL CONTACT IN THE US HAD BEEN
ARRANGED} SOBLE ADVISED THAT OVER PROTEST FRON HIS BROTHER, BORIS,
HE WENT TO NYC TO NEET FONIN AT ANTORG ON MADISON AVE IN NYC.
SOBLE STATED THAT HE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH FONIN AND AT THE SECOND
NETING, FONIN STATED THAT HE HAD A NAN WHO WANTED TO NEET SOBLE.
SOBLE RELATED THAT HE WAS AT THIS TINE RESIDING AT THE HOTEL PARIS I
NYC AND A DAY OR TWO LATER HE WAS CONTACTED BY VASSILI ZUBILIN. -
SOBLE STATED THAT UNTIL NUCH LATER HE ONLY KNEW ZUBILIN BY THE NAME
VASSILI NIKHAILOVICH AND NEVER KNEW HIS LAST NANE. ZUBILIN TOLD
SOBLE THAT HE WANTED SOBLE TO BE OF ASSISTANCE TO HIN AND THE
SOVIETS IN AN ALLIED EFFORT T0 DEFEAT THE GERNANS AND THE JAPANESE.
SOBLE STATED THAT ZUBILIN HAD TOLD HIN YOU ARE AT NY MERCY" U
AND INSISTED THAT SOBLE JOIN THE EFFORT_IN RELATION TO WINNING THE
I%R¢ SOBLE CONTINUED CONTACTS WITH ZUBILIN UNTIL ZUBILIN INTRODUCED
IHN TO CHALIAPIN WHOM SOBLE KNEW AS NISHA, BUT WHO TOLD SOBLE THAT HIS
NAME WAS THE SANE AS THAT OF A FAMOUS RUSSIAN SINGER AND SOBLE TOLD
CHALIAPIN THAT MUST BE HIS NAME. SUBJECT RELATED THAT BOTH CHAL"
IAPIN AND ZUBILIN BECAME ANNOYED WITH SOBLEjS RESIDENCE IN CANADA
AND INSISTED THAT HE MOVE TO NY WHERE HE COULD BE OF MORE SERVICE TO
mm. some PRESENTED ms PROBLEHTO THEN OF LACK or FUNDS AND rm;
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A FACT THAT HE HAD FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE IMPERIAL BANK OF A &#39;
CANADA AND NO WAY OF BRINGING IT INTO THE US. SOBLE RELATED THAT
- ZUBILIN AND CHALIAPIN STATED THEY UOULD TAKE CARE OF THIS MATTER-. , 
, THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS A DISTRUBUTION TO SOBLE OF HIS
FATHERéS ASSETS WHICH ANOUNTED TO ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTYFIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS. SOBLE MENTIONED THAT HE TOLD ALEXANDER ELIAS THAT THE SOVIETS
WERE HEEPING HIM TO TRANSFER PART OF THIS HONEY, THIS AMOUNT BEINGs
PLACED AT ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE US; SOBLE RELATED THAT
ELIAS DID NOT SEE THE SOVIETS IN CANADA. SOBLE RECALLED THAT THE sovxz
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ZUBILIN AND CHALIAPIN DROVE TO CANADA BY CAR AND PICHED UP A PORTION
OF THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH WAS LOCATED AT THE IMPERIAL
BANK IN CANADA IN THE ACCOUNT OF JACK AND MYRA SOBLE. SOBLE RELATED *
THAT THE SOVIETS TOOK FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS IN CASH BACK TO THE UNITED. 92 .
STATES FOR HIM. SOBLE STATED THAT HE HAD NO IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT OR
CONTACTS AND THAT MARK ZBOROWSKI WAS INTRODUCED,TO SOBLE BY CHALIAPIN
EIFORTYTHREEO SOBLE STATED THAT ZBOROWSKI WAS AN ENTHUSIASTIC AND
EAGER SUPPLIER OF INFO AND SAID ZBOROWSKI FURNISHED WRITTEN REPORTS -
ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT SOBLE-S PRESENT RECOLLECTION IS THAT
THESE CONCERNED TROTSKYITES, NENSHEVIKS AND ONéPROFESSOR DALLIN AND
IRS DALLIN. SOBLE STATED THAT ZBOROWSKI TOLD HIM THAT A SOVIET&#39;WAS I
some TO FLEE
ZBOROWSKI DID
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ZBOROWSKI HAD
srnzm IN THEFROM ONE OF THE SOVIET ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE US AND I
NOT KNOW WHETHER THE FLEEING SOVIET WAS FROM AMTORG
EMBASSY NOR DID HE KNOW THE NAME; SOBLE RELATED THAT
APPARENTLY MET THE PROSPECTIVE SOVIET DEFECTOR ON THE
VICINITY OF DALLINfS HOUSE AND DIRECTED THE INDIVIDUAL
¢- .
TO DALLINS HOUSE. SOBLE SAID THAT ZBOROWSKI IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED
HIM, TOLD HIM
BE NORIFIED.OF THE SITUATION AND REQUESTED THAT SOBLE-S SUPERIORS
SOBLE NOTIFIED CHALIAPIN, WHO IN TURN NOTIFIED ZUBILINQ
sow: WAS~jTHEN-CONTAE-&#39;1-.ED. BY~-~ZUBU£IN 1-mo~ CENSURED HI-bf-FOR SUCH 1m"_o,-;5-
AS ZUBILIN APPARENTLY DID NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS TO BE A DEFECTION.
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SOBLE SAID THAT SEVERAL DAYS LATER THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF VICTOR
KRAVCHENKO-S DEFECTION APPEARED IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND THIS WAS THE
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INDIVIDUAL TO WHOM ZBOROHSKI HAD REFERRED. SOBLE SAID THAT HE PAID
ZBOROHSKI ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLARS A NONTH. SUBSEQUENT TO THE1
TIME THAT SOBLE WAS TURNED OVER BY CHALIAPIN TO CHOUNDENHO, CHOUNf
. £2 D IDENKO REQUESTED TO MEET ZBORONSKI. fHOUNDENHO, KNOWN TO SOBLE AS THE 
-PROFESSOR, CLAIMED THAT ZBOROUSKI HAS NOT SUPPLYING SUFFICIECT INFO
-Ill "9FOR THE PAYMENT BEING NADE. SUBSEQUENT TO SOBLETS INTRODUCTION
o CHOUNDENKO AND zsonowsxi, SOBLE DID NOT THEREAFTER, sEE ZBOROHSKI.
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SOBLE CLAIMED THAT ZBORONSKI KNEW SOBLE-S NAME AND WAS OF A FRIENDLY
DISPOSITION TO SOBLE, SINCE SOBLE HAD NOT PUSHED HIN FOR INFO. ZBORONSKI
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TOLD SOBLE OF PREVIOUS ACTIVITY FOR THE SOVIETS IN THE TROTSKYITE
PBVEMENT IN EUROPE AND MENTIONED HIS RELATION TO TROTSHYS SON, LEON
SEDON¢e SOBLE RELATED IN-RELATION TO JACOB ALBAM THAT HE HAD KNOWN
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HIM IN VILKAVISHIS, LITHUANIA, CASUALLY¢ SOBLE STATED THAT HIS RELATION
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TO ALBAM IN THEIR HOME TOWN WAS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT ALBAM 1
ENS OF AN OLDER AGE GROUP THAN HIMSELF. SOBLE RELATED THAT HE HAD
PET ALBAM FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER LEAHING LITHUANIA INgWENTY NINE IN
PARIS, WITH SOBLES WIFE MYRA. SOBLE RECALLED THAT HE MAT ALBAM AGAIN
IN THIRTY THREE o&#39;TH1nTYEouR1N Moscow. soBLE_sTATEn:THAT TO THE BEST
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OF HIS RECOLLECTION ALBAM wAs EMPLOYED IN MOSCOW AT THAT TIME. SOBLE ,
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STATED THAT HE HIMSELF HAD SPENT FROM THIRTY THREE UNTIL FORTY NORKING
IN MOSCOW AS A JOURNALIST. SOBLE STATED THAT THE NEXT TIME HE SAN H
ALBAM HAS IN FORTY SEVEN IN PARIS. SOBLE STATED THAT DURING THE YEARS
HE, HIMSELF, SPENT IN MOSCOW HE HAS NOT SURE WHETHER ALBAM RESIDED THERE
FOR ANY LENGTH OF_TIME BUT INDICATED THAT ALBAM MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME
ASSIGNMENTS UNKNOWN TO HIM. IN FORTY SEVEN ALBAM TOLD SOBLE WHEN THEY ¥
PET IN PARIS THAT HE HAD SPENT THE UAR IN SIBERIA HAVING BEEN
EVACUATED FROM MOSCOW. SOBLE RELATED THAT THE FORTYSEVEN MEETING IN
PARIS TOOK PLACE WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF JACOB ALBAM-S BROTHER, SOLOMON
ALBAM UHO HAD GIVEN TO SOBLE JACOB ALBAMS ADDRESS IN PARIS._ SOBLE AT
ms POINT RELATED THAT ms x-ms mo? AWARE!-IIIISELF oz: SOLOI~ION"ALBAM-S.
KNOWLEDGE OF HIS BROTHER JACOBS ACTIVITIES. WHEN SOBLE MET ALBAM
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IN PARIS SOBLE DID NOT HAVE A SOVIET CONTACT. ALBAM INTRODUCED SOBLE ,
TO HIS SOVIET CONTACT NAMED NISHA.&#39; SOBLE STATED MISHAfS LAST NAME NAS A:
RROBABLY HOUZNETZOV. KOUZNETZOV TOLD SOBLE THAT SOBLE SHOULD GO TO
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IDSCON. SOBLE PROCEEDED ON HIS AMERICAN PASSPORT TO PRAGUE WHERE
IE HAS MET AND TRAVELLED ON SOVIET PAPERS TO MOSCOW. IN MOSCOW SOBLE
HAS INTERVIEHED BY PETROV AND_MET FEDOTOV AND ZUBILIN. SOBLE-STATED THAT. "  -&#39;
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IND ALFRED STERN, ESTHER RAND AND POSSIBLE THE NARTINS, ALSO
CONCERNING SOBLEAS POSSIBLE FUTURE USEFULNESS TO THE SOVIETS, SOBLE
TOLD THEN OF THE FACTORY IN VERBERIE AND HIS DESIRE TO PURCHASE IT
FRON HIS BROTHER. FODOTOV PROPOSED GIVING SOBLE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS FOR THIS AND ZUDILIN ODJECTED SAYING THE NONEY WOULD BE PAID
IN FRANCE. ON RETURN TO PARIS VIA VIENNA AND PRAGUE SOBLE AGAIN NET
ALBAN. -SOBLE STATED HE DID NOT KNON UHAT ALBAN~S ASSIGNMENTS WERE
AT THAT TINE BUT SAID THAT THE SOVIETS THROUGHT-KOUZNETSOV INSTRUCTED "
TO PROCEED TO THE US. ALBAN PROCEEDED TO THE US AND SOBEL NET
EHN IN LATE FORTYSEVEN IN US. SODLE RELATED THAT ALBAN HAD TOLD
HIN THAT HE HAD RETURNED TO _ S IN FORTYSIX VIA A RUSSIAN PLANE WHICH
HAS LANDED IN PARIS AND ALBAN WAS SNUGCLED FROH THE PLANE, INASNUCH
AS ALBAN SPOKE FRENCH WELL AND ARRANGED FOR FRENCH PAPERS. SOBLE
DENIED THAT HE HAD ASSIGNMENT TO GET UIFE IN US FOR ALBAN BUT ADNITTED
THAT HE HAD CONTACTED ALICE MARTIN AND RAND IN EFFORT TO GET WIFE FOR .
ALBAN. ALBAN IN FORTYEIGHT RETURNED TO PARIS AFTER MARRIAGE AND SOBLE
PET HIM THERE. SOBLE CLAIMED HE DID NOT KNOU.RELATIONS OF ALBAN WITH
IQUZNETSOV THOUGH SOBLE ADNITTED KOUZNETSOV SOVIET CONTACT AT
SANE TINE. SOBLE CLAINED THAT HE DID NOT HNON ASSIGNMENT OF ALBAN FOR

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FROM ALBAM IN THE US HAS STATEMENT BY ALBAN CONCERNING HIS UNSUCCESSFUL
VENTURE INTO PLASTICS INDUSTRY AND HIS LIVING STATUS HERE. DATE OF THISI =I.
Qt .REPORT HAS PROBABLY FORTYNINE. ALBAN AT SAME TIME ASKED SOVIETS AS TO~
STATUS OF ALBAM-S NIFE AND DAUGHTER STILL RESIDING IN SOVIET UNION.
SOB
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HAS INSTRUCTED TO MAKE FINANCIAL PAYMENTS TO ALBAM. SOBLE SAID ALBHI
AD IN us, on: To wnom PAID ALBAN
TOLD HIM OF THO SOVIET CONTACF ~
THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE OTHER IN RELATION TO ALBAM"S PROJECTED "
VENTURE IN STATIONARY STORE. SOBLE CLAIMED ALBAN NAS MOST SECRETIVE
zvzu uzrn SOBLE AND SOBLE DID mo? LEARN DETAILS DFTALBAN-S CONTACTS on
ASSIGFHT T IN FIFTY MEETING IN VIENNA HITH PETROV, PETROV INSTRUCTED
1 I - &#39;SOBLE THAT ALBAN HAS BEING OVERPAID AND TO REDUCE PAYMENTS TO HIM.
SOBLE STATED THAT AFTER ARREST OF SOBLES AND ALBAN HE NET ALBAM IN
COURT APPEARANCES AND ALBAM STATED THAT DOCUMENT HE HAD GIVEN TO MORROS~
NAS
* UOULD SAY THAT THE "A" MENTIONED IN DOCUMENT 7NHICH REFERRED TO ABRASHA?HIS DOCUMENT BUT HE NOULD DENY AUTHORSHIP. ALBAM TOLD SOBLE THAT HE
H -v qr - &#39; ;JACK SOBLE/ HAS ABELIEN, A PERSON ALBAN KNEW IN FRANCE, NHO HAS NON ~
DECEASED. "ALBAM TOLD SOBLE HE H I THE DOCUMENT COPY IN POSSESSf

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ALBAN¢ SOBLE STATED THAT ALBAN WAS VERY TALENTED TECHN-
ICALLT INCLUDING PHOTOGRAPHY AND ALBAN HAD MENTIONED THE FACILITY SOV.1-
IETS HAD IN MAKING FALSE PASSPORTS AND NAY WORKED IN SUCH DEPT IN NOS£_
CON. CONCERNING ILYA NOLSTON, SOBLE NENTIONED THAT WHILE HE HAS IN .
TDSCOU IN THIRTIES, HE CONTINUALLY RECEIVED LETTERS FRON ILYA NOLSTON
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INDICATING DESIRE OF NOLSTON TO CONE TO RUSSIA BUT THIS HAD NEVER BEEN
EFFECTEDO IN DISCUSSION ILYA NOLSTON AND ROBERT SOBLE, JACK BECANE
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INOTIONAL AND HESITATED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TINE BEFORE ANSWERING THE
QUESTION OR DIVERTED TO OTHER SUBJECTS. NITH RELATION TO ROBERT SOBLE.
JACK STATED THAT ROBERT HAS NORE DEEPLT INVOLVED THAN JACK AND THAT IF
ROBERT SOBLE DID NOT NAKE FULL DISCLOSURE OF HIS ACTIVITIES, JACK NOU
DO SO. JACK SOBLE ALSO NENTIONED THAT CHOUNDENKO IN FORTYFIVE ARRANGEDM
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PEETING IN NY WITH INDIVIDUAL SUBJ CLAINS HE DOES NOT KNOW. CHOUNDENKO
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DESCRIBED THIS SOVIET As AN IMPORTANT PERSONALITY. SOBLE NET THIS INDIV
IDUAL AT A MEETING PREARRANGED on RIVERSIDE DRIVE; NY, AND AGREED TO
FEET HIM IN WASH, nc. SOBLE CLAIMED THAT HE AVOIDED NASH, DC MEETING on
FIRST SCHEDULED DATE§_BuT wAs BOTHERED BY CHOUNDEHKO To MAKE SECOND MEET
ING. AT NEETING IN NASH, DC, SOBLE WAS PROPOSITIONED TO OPERATING A
DRESS AND FASHION STORE EOR NHICH SOVIETS WERE TO ADVANCE THREE HUNDRED
THOUSANDEDOLLARS." SOBLE{OBJECTED THAT HE COULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR THREE
1 ._ .. 1
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FINANCE THIS VENTURE- SOBLE IN RELATION TO
. _  .
THIS NEETING STATED THAT HE HAS ALSO PROPOSITIONED TO TAKE CHARGE OF A
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ANATOLI GRONOV OR GRONOV ASSOCIATE. SOBLE ALSO NENTIONED THAT ESTHER
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JENISH APPEAL AND STATED THAT&#39;ESTHERiHAD SOVIET CONTACT PRIOR TO SOBLE.
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INTERVIEW WAS TERNINATED ON FOUR TWELVE WHEN SOBLE CLAIMED PHYSICAL AND
FENTAL STRAIN PREVENTED HIN FRON CONTINUING. SOBLE EXPRESSED CONCERN
cvnn THE STATUS OFfHIS sou, LARR; INASMUCH Ks&#39;LARRY IS PRESENTLY RES:
IDING WITH ROBERT AND*DINASOBLEé AT AGENTS INSISTENCE, JACK SOBLE
STATED HE WOULD DEFINITELY DISCLUSE on FOUR THIRTEEN NEXT, INFO IN HIS;
POSSESSION CONCERNING ROBERT SOBLE. INTERVIEWS OF SOBLE CONTINUING ON
FOUR THIRTEEN NEXT AND AS92 a &#39; &#39;
OFTEN AS PRISON ROUTINE AND SOBLEjS CONDITION
> PNKES IT POSSIBLE. PURSUANT TO BUREAU AUTHORIZATION RECEIVED PH OF
FOUR TWELVE, AUSA GILCHRIST WAS ADVISED ON LATE AFTERNOON FOUR TWELVE _
THAT JACK SOBLE DURING INTERVIEWS ADVISED THAT ALBAN HAD ADNITTED TO
SOBLE ALBAN WAS AUTHOR OF
ALBAN HAD MADE UP A STORY
TO TESTIFY CONCERNING THE
OTHER SOVIET PRINCIPAL INLETTER TO NORROS. THAT ALBAN TOLD SOBLE THAT
CONCERNING THIS LETTER TO BE USED IF ALBAN HAD
LETTER. THAT JACK SOBLE STATED ALBAN HAD
us AND THAT JACK SOBLE WOULD DISCLOSE DETAILS
CONCERNING ROBERT SOBLE IF ROBERT SOBLE DOES NOT FURNISH THIS INFO.
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ORDERED BY u§A, smw. MYRA FAILED POSITIVEERECOGNITION PHOTO OF A.
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M. KOROTKOV.~ NON STATES MET KOROTKOV DURING NINETEEN FORTYEIGHT AT
GENEVA. PHOTOS on mmzs or ANATOLI B. caor-zov, SOVIET cousuuuz OFFICIAL,
NY, NINETEEN FORTYFIVE, JOHANNA BECKER, DR. H &#39;!RST_WOLI-GANG BAERENSPRUNG
- &#39; ~ 92nAND HANS E. HIRSCHFELD NOT RECOGNIZED. ARTIST COMPOSITE PHOTOS OF AND
NAMES OF "EILL AND CATHERINE NOT FAMILIAR. NAMES MILDRED OR GLADYS
NOT FAMILIAR. MYRA ADMITTEDQKNOWING JACOB ALBAM IN MOSCOW DURING
THIRTIES, NEXT SEEN IN.NY, NINETEEN FORTYSEVEN. SHE "UNDERSTOOD" REASON
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FOR PRESENCE IN US. KNEW OF ALBAMS PLAN TO BUY STATIONERY STORE AND&#39;1
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USE IT FOR COVER FOR SOVIET ESPIONAGE. SHE "UNDERSTOOD" PURCHASE
TO BE MADE WITH SOVIET FUNDS. ADMITTED PAYMENT TO ALBAM, NINETEEN
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FORTYSEVEN OF FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS CANNOT RECALL OTHER PAYMENTS BUT MAY
HAVE MADE SOME OR IF RECEIPT OBTAINED. KNEW ALBAM&#39;S COVER NAME AS
BELOV. KNEW PAYMENTS TO ALBAM w1:m: oiiw OF sovxm" Iiuwns} AS ALBAM
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OR JANE AND GEORGE ZLATOVSKI. REITERATED STORY OF SOBLE-S FATHER IN
CANADA GIVING JACK FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, TEN OF WHICH FOR JACK AND "
FOUR FOR MYRA. MONEY THEN BROUGHT TO US BY ZUBILIN. STATED THE.
PROFESSOR GAVE JACK FOUR TO FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO INVEST IN THE
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CAFETERIA¢ MYRA REPEATED STORY THAT ONLY PERSON WHO REFUSED TO SIGN
RECEIPT FOR MONEY AND REFUSED MONEY WAS JAMES MARTIN. DURING JULY
TUNETEEN FIFTY, NY FILES REFLECT MARTIN ATTENDED UNIVERSITY OF PENN»
ABOUT NINETEEN THIRTYONE TO THIRTYFOUR. ON JULY TEN FIFTYTWO, SOBLE
TOLD MORROS THAT HE SENT MYRA MONEY TO GIVE TO A FINE BOY WHO WAS A
YALE GRADUATE, AND WHO MYRA MET IN A BAR, AND WHEN SHE REQUESTED A
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RECEIPT, RETURNED THE MONEY AND REQUESTED HER NOT TO CALL ON HIM AGAIN-
DENIED KNOWING OF CONTACT WHO WAS CHAUFFEUR AT US EMBASSY, PARIS AND n
WHO WAS MARRIED TO DAUGHTER OF MICHEL-S /ROUBINOWITZ/ LANDLADY. ALSO
DENIED KNOUING OF oNE "PAUL", A CHAUFFEUR AT us EMBASSY, PARIS: INTER- ~
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VIEW TO BE CONTINUED APRIL THIRTEEN NEXT. ON APRIL TWELFTH FIFTYSEVEN
MYRA ADVISED SHE HAD NOT SLEPT AND WAS SLIGHTLY ILL.
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JACK SOBLE, WAS ET AL- PAREN MOCASE PAREN . MYRA SOBLE INTERVIEWED
FOUR THIRTEEN INSTANT, WOMEN-S HOUSE OF DETENTION, NYC. STATED PHOTO-
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GRAPH OF CHOUNDENKO BEARS RESEMBLANCE TO THE QUOTE PROFESSOR UNQUOTE,
BUT SHE COULD NOT POSITIVELY IDENTIFY IT. PHOTOGRAPH OF KOROTKOV ALSO
NOT POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED. STATED SHE_NEVER KNEW IF ALBAM KNEW ILYA
WOLSTON. KNEW ALBAM COVER NAME AS BELOV, TOLD TO HER BY JACK SOBLE.
JACK ALSO TOLD HER ILYA WAS KNOWN AS SLAVA. JANE ZLATOVSKI TOLD MYRA
HER COVER NAME WAS SLANG. GEORGE ZLATOVSKI TOLD MYRA HIS COVER NAME
WAS RECTOR. STATED DID NOT KNOW COVER NAME FOR DR. SOBLE NOR OF HIS
ACTIVITIES. STATED THAT DR. SOBLE WAS INTRODUCED TO ZUBILIN BY JACKR
SOBLE AT ZUBILIN-S REQUEST. MYRA ADVISED WAS PRESENT AT MEETING WITH
DR. SOBLE, JACK SOBLE, ZUBILIN, WHICH TOOK PLACE IN A GREENWICH VILLAG
NIGHT CLUB BELIEVED TO BE THE VILLAGE BARN. MYRA STATED MET ZUBILIN A
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ONLY THREE TIMES AND THAT HE WAS ALWAYS DRUNK. MYRA WAS PRESENT AT
TIME ALEXANDER ELIAS MET ZUBILIN IN NEW YORK NINETEEN FORTY THREE WHEI
ELIAS, ZUBILIN, JACK AND MYRA HAD DINNER IN SHIP AHOY RESTAURANT, BRO;
WAY AND SIXTY STREET, NEW YORK. SHE REMEMBERS THIS MEETING FOR AFTER
DINNER SHE BECAME VERY SICK FROM FOOD AND DRINK. NEXT MET ZUBILIN-
SHORTLY BEFORE ZUBILIN DEPARTED US. ZUBILIN AND WIFE UNEXPECTEDLY
CAME TO SOBLE RESIDENCE ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON, JACK WAS IN BED WITH
LEG TROUBLE. ZUBILIN STAYED ABOUT A HALF HOUR, ALLEGEDLY TO SAY
GOODBYE, BUT MYRA BELIEVES THEY WERE CHECKING ON JACK TO SEE IF HE
WERE FAKING. JACK WAS TAKING MEDICAL TREATMENTS FROM A DR. POLLACK O]
CENTRAL PARK WEST, NYC. MYRA DOES NOT KNOW COVER NAMES FOR;MARTIN§ O}
RANDS. MYRA NEVER MET ZBOROWSKI BUT KNEW FROM JACK HE WAS REPORTING
TO JACK ON TROTSKYITES. ZBOROWSKI THEN LIVED IN BRONX, NY. ABOUT
NINETEEN FORTY THREE DASH FORTY FOUR MYRA KNEW FROM JACK THAT A WOMAN
HAD AN APARTMENT, RENT PAID BY RUSSIANS AND BY SOBLE, WHERE JACK NET
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A GIRL KNOWN A SOFIE FROM WHOM HE RECEIVED REPORTS. SOFIE WANTED TO QU
THE MOVEMENT AS SHE WAS SUFFERING FROM NERVOUS BREAKDOWN AND WANTED T6
.~ a.REJOIN HER FAMILY IN CHICAGO. MYRA LATER LEARNED FROM JACK THAT I
SOFIE WAS ALSO KNOWN AS SYLVIA. PAREN MYRA ON FOUR DASH TWELVE DASH¥f
&#39; QFIFTY SEVEN DID NOT RECOGNIZE PHOTO O OR NAME OF,SYLVIA CALLEN DOXSEE.Y
MYRA TO BE PRESSED FOR MORE DETAILS RE SYLVIA. MYRA UNFAMILIAR WITH T
CODE NAME FOR ALFRED AND MARTHA STERN. MYRA STATED STERN GAVE JACK Q
ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS AS A GIFT SHORTLY AFTER FAILURE OF BORIS &#39;
MORROS MUSIC COMPANY. DURING EARLY FORTIES STERN VISITED JACK AND MYRA
AT RESIDENCE, BROUGHT As  JCHEMISTRY SET AND A BOOK I
OF RUSSIAN FAIRY TALES._ MYRA BELIEVES BOOK STILL AMONG POSSESSIONS NOW
IN STORAGE. NYO WILL ENDEAVOR TO OBTAIN IT. CHRISTMAS, NINETEEN FORTY
FIVE, STERN GAVE JACK A DOZEN HANDKERCHIEFS AND SOME CHEAP PINS. BELIEI
SHE MAY HAVE THESE PINS PAREN COSTUME JEWELRY PAREN . STATED STERN WRO?
DURING NINETEEN FIFTY SIX FROM MEXICO THAT HE COULD NOT SEND MONEY.
HE ALSO WROTE DURING FIFTY SIX FROM CALIFORNIA ABOUT VISITING HIS DYING
DAUGHTER. MYRA DOES NOT KNOW DISPOSITION OF LETTERS.. MYRA RECALLS THAT
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BUSINESS UITR sTERN. sTERN AND SOBLE sTAYED IN sAME HOTEL
&#39;TRAvELLED To HOLLYWOOD A DAY AFTER soBLE DID, AND ALL ALLEREDL
RETURNED To NEW YORK WITH BORIS MoRRos, REGARDING NINETEEN~FIETY;
&#39;MEETING WITH MARTIN, MYRA ADvIsED THAT AT THIS TIME PURsUANT To
INSTRUCTIONS THAT PRIoR oo COMING T0 EUROPE, AUGUST, NINETEENTFIA
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SHE CONTACTED CERTAIN THREE INDIVIDUAL$ INCLUDING MARTIN TO OBT
REP0RTs. MYRA ADvIsED UENT To cANADA JULY NINETEEN FIFTY, To ER
No MQNEY WAS PAID To THEM. MYRA NoT FAMILIAR URAT TYPE INFoLARRY, HOME WITH HER, AND URILE IN cANADA, coNTAcTED MENDEL LADsRY
ALEXANDER ELIAS FoR REPORTS.: NEITRER HAD ANY INFoRMATIoN To FURNIY__ __ V _ __ , __ , I__ .;._ I-_..,-.,_.&#39;~I-,=,,,».I_,~, :&#39;.I-:_~_&#39;,i._-.&#39;.._.&#39;.-I-"-F __-.&#39;~..<..__.92..;...<...-_~.. ------
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coMMUNIsT As HE BROUGHT HER T0 GERMAN cP,MEETINcs. LADSKY, AT=
UAs woRKINc FoR RANDELsDoRTRETUNc PAREN PH CLO$E PAREN. TRIs
ATIoN coMPARAELE To AMTORG, U.s. MYRA ADvIsED LADSKY AND JACK
WERE MEMEERs GERMAN cP, BUT EEcAME TROTSKYITES AND EXPELLED FRoM P
RUT LATER BEcAME ENcAcED IN sovIET EsPIoNAcE%REPoRTINc oN TRo.. 92 &#39; 
MYRA LEFT BERLIN IN SUMMVT  "w"~" r&#39; I &#39; b__"" ;
F" _ER oF NINETEEN THIRTY oNE FoR Moscow, URERE
JOINED HER NINETEEN THIRTY THREE. FROM NINETEEN THIRTY THREE O
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NINETEEN FORTY, THEY REMAINED IN MOSCOW, WHERE JACK WAS EMPLOYED AS
JOURNALIST. MYRA, WHILE BRIEFLY DISCUSSING STERN, STATED THAT JANE
ZLATOVSKI TOLD MYRA THAT MARTHA STERN HAD INTRODUCED JANE TO A NEGRO ~
WITH WHOM JANE HAD AN AFFAIR. LATER, MARTHA TOLD GEORGE ZLATOVSKI OF
JANES ASSOCIATION WITH THIS NEGRO. JANE DID NOT TEL MYRA NAME, BUT
STATED HE WAS A TALL, HANDSOME, LIGHT DASH COLORED NEGRO, AND PROBABLY-
A_ WRITER. MYRA LEARNED FROM ALBAM THAT ALBAM HAD BEEN SMUGGLED INTO
FRANCE OR GERMANY IN NINETEEN FORTY FIVE OR EARLY NINETEEN FORTY SIX¢¥
MYRA AGREES TO PREPARE OWN BIOGRAPHY OF PERSONAL HISTORY AND ACTIVITIES
THIS WILL BE PREPARED UNDER SECURE CONDITIONS SO NO ONE, INCLUDING THE
WARDEN, WILL SEE CONTENTSQ MYRA HAS REQUESTED ATTORNEY WOLF TO ARRANGE
VISIT WITH JACK NEXT WEEK. DURING INTERVIEW FORENOON AND AFTERNOON FOI
THIRTEEN MYRA FREQUENTLY EXPRESSED BEING FATIGUED. MYRA GIVEN PHYSICAT
EXAM FOUR DASH TWELVE DASH FIFTY SEVEN WHICH INCLUDED ELECTRO CARDIO-
GRAPH. RESULTS OF EXAMINATION NOT YET AVAILABLE. MYRA REFUSED TO BE
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FOR REST. MYRA TO BE INTERVIEWED AM FOUR DASH FIFTEEN DASH FIFTY SEVI
AT WHICH TIME SHE WILL BE PRESSED FOR COMPLETE DETAILS ON ALL MATTERS
COVERED IN PRIOR INTERVIEWS- IT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT MYRA HAS FURNISH:
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JACK SOBLE, ESP DASH R. RENYTEL APRIL TWELVE_LAST. JACK
SOBLE INTERVIEWED MORNING AND AFTERNOON APRIL THIRTEEN
- AT FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION, DANBURY, com. -
_ PRISION PHYSICIAN, ADVISED THAT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
OF SOBLE BY DR. MC DERNOTT ON EVENING, APRIL TWELVE,
INDICATED NOTHING PHYSICALLY WRONG WITH SOBLE, AND SOBLE-S
CLAIM OF CHEST PAINS WHICH HE COMPLAINED ABOUT ON ARRIVAL
AT PRISON ARE PROBABLY PSYCHOSOMATIC AND ATTRIBUTABLE TO
SOBLE-S MENTAL CONDITION. MENTIONED THAT THERE
HAD BEEN GRUMBLING BY OTHER PRISONERS ABOUT SOBLE, MAINLY
ON GROUND THAT HE WAS A QUOTE SQUEALER ENQUOTE, BUT NO
THREATS HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST SOBLE THOUGH PRISONERS HAD
DESTROYED A COPY OF QUOTE NEW YORK TIMES ENQUOTE WHEN
LEARNED THAT HE DESIRED TO READ IT. RE JACOB ALBAH, SOBLE
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STATED THAT WHEN ALBAM APPLIED FOR US VISA HE ASKED SOBLE
TO FURNISH HIM ADDRESS THAT HE COULD GIVE AS ADDRESS WHERE
HE WAS DURING WORLD UAR.TWO. SOBLE GAVE HIM THE ADDRESS OF
EILENBURGER STRASSE TUENTYONE, TAUCHA, BEI, LEIPZIG,
ALBAM TH
DDRESS GOOD AS COULD NOT BE
CHECKED AS IN SOVIET TERRITORY. SOBLE STATED THAT HE TOLD
ALBAM ILYA UOLSTON HAS IN BERLIN, GERMANY, WORKING AS A
TRANSLATOR FOR US GOVERI
T AND THAT WOLSTON HAS GIVING
INFORMATION CONCERNING HIS WORK TO SOBLE. SOBLE BELIEVED_
ALBAM AND HOLSTON NET IN PARIS HHEN UOLSTON CANE TO PARIS TO
GET MARRIED IN NOVEMBER, NINETEEN FORTYEIGHT. SOBLE CLAIMED
HE ONLY MET UOLSTON THREE TIME
PE AT PARIS, COLOGNE
AND NICE. EOLSTON FURNISHED HIM HIT
OF NAMES
OF PERSONS UITH EHOH HOLSTONLUORHED IN US GOVERNHENT IX
EERLIN. ALSO WITH NAMES OF PERSUHS EHO QIE ATTENDING A
SCHOOL FOR ADHINISTRATORS THO UOULD BE
IE US DASH SOVIET EAR BROKE OUT. SOBLE CLAIMED UNABLE TO
RECALL MAKES GIVEN BY HOLSTOH BUT THESE PERSONS HERE ANTI
DASH COMMUNIST ANCUPATION WORK

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HOLSTOH AT CAN? RITCHIE, HARYLAND, EHERE HOLSTON STATIONED
IN ARMY. THIS INFO GIVEN BY SOBLE TO CHALIAPIN. ALSO ON
RETURN FROM ALASKA,
_ SEALED PACKAGE HHICH
SOBLE PROHPTLY TURNED OVER TO CHOUNDENHO- SOBLE CLAIMS HE
DOES NOT KNOH HHAT PACKAGE CONTAINED. STATED CHOUNDENKO
LATER TOLD SOBLE IT HAS UORTHLESS- UOLSTON ALSO TOLD SOBLE
THAT CHALIAPIN CONTACTED HIM IN SAN FRANCISCO I
HOLSTON
AT UN CONFERENCE IN NINETEEN FORTYFIVE. UOLSTON TOLD
- SOBLE THAT CHALIAPIN HAD RENEW
LSTON-S NAME FROM
MATERIAL RECEIVED FROM SOBLE. SOBLE CLAIMED HE DOES NOT
uETHER WOLSTOJ FURNISHED INFO TO CHALIAPIN ON THAT
OCCASION. SODLE CLAIMED HE PAID NO HONEY TO ALBAH IN
FRANCE AS THERE ALBAN RECEIVED HONEY FROM KOUSNETZOU. SOBLE
RELATED HE PAID ALBAH THO HUN LLARS IN US AND OT
PAYMANTS TOTALING FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, THOUGH ALBAH

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TO ALBAM MAS IN NEH YORK IN NINETEEN FIFTY AND AMOUNTED
TO THREE HUNDRED OR FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS. SOBLE STATED
H QED ALBAMS CODE NAME, BELOVO, FROM KOUSNETZOV IN
PARIS. ALBAI ROM SOBLE ABOUT THE ZLATOVSKIS AND
SOBLE-S PLAN TO GET JOB FOR GEORGE WITH MARSHALL PLAN.
ALBAM ALSO xwzw THAT ESTHER RAND AND ALICE MARTIN WERE
COMMUNISTS AND§R§NQ&ANDKMARTIN WORKED FOR SOBLE IN THE
 MOVEMENT. SOBLE STATED THAT SOMEBODY IN THE STATIONERY
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STORE, PRIOR TO ALBAMS ASSIGNMENT TO PURCHASE STATIONERY
STORE, HAD WORKED FOR SOVIETS. RE ROBERT SOBLE. SHORTLY//
AFTER COMING TO NEH YORK, JACK SOBLE WAS REQUESTED BY ZUBILIN
TO INTRODUCE ROBERT TO ZUBILIN STATING ROBERT SOBLE HAD
AGREED TO WORK FOR SOVIETS BEFORE BEING PERMITTED
TO LEAVE LITHUANIA, WHICH JACK SOBLEKNEH TO BE TRUE.
ZUBILIN TURNED OVER ROBERT TO LIZA ZUBILIN. JACK CLAIMED
THAT ROBERT-S JAS SEPARATE FROM HIS, BUT HE KNEW
ROBERT OBTAINED INFORMATION FROM THE DAUGHTER OF HILHELM
KOENEN PAREN JOHANNA BECKER PAREN AND SAID THE INFORMATION
FURNISHED TO ROBERT WAS FROM O.S.S. JACK SOBLE CLAIMED

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SATISFACTORY. JACK CLAIMED HE DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY
ROBERT RECEIVED FROM THE SOVIET-S, BUT THOUGHT IT WAS A
SMALL AMOUNT. AFTER ZUBILIN-S DEPARTURE ROBERT SOBLE ALSO
FOR CHOUNDENKO, BUT HAD VIOLENT DISAGREEMENTS WITH
CHOUNDENKO AND, ACCORDING TO JACK, ROBERT BROKE OFF WITH
SOVIETS AND HAD NO FURTHER CONTACTS WITH THEM. JACK STATED
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ROBERT GOT JOB AT UNRRA THROUGH IRVING SOLLINS, WHO JACK
CLAIMED WAS PRO DASH SOVIET BUT WAS NOT AGENT FOR RUSSIANS.
JACK BELIEVED HE INTRODUCED ROBERT TO STERNS, BUT THEY
BROKE UP BECAUSE OF REFUSAL OF ALFRED STERN T0 LOAN ROBERT
LARGE SUM OF MONEY. JACK SOBLE STATED INTER DASH AMERICAN
PHARMACEUTICAL NOT A COVER COMPANY AND CLAIMS COMPANY BROKE
UP OVER REFUSAL OF ALFRED STERN TO ADVANCE MORE MONEY. JACK
SAID ROBERT JOINED CP IN NINETEEN TWENTY IN LITHUANIA AND
SPOKE AT LARGE COMMUNIST GATHERING IN VILKAVISKIS, LITHUANIA,
ON MAY DAY, NINETEEN TWENTYONE. GATHERING TURNED INTO A RIOT
AND ROBERT IMPRISONED FOR FIVE MONTHS. RELEASED ON PROMISE
OF FATHER THAT HE WOULD GO ABROAD. BOTH JACK AND ROBERT
JOINED CP IN GERMANY IN NINETEEN TWENTYONE AT LIEPZIG-
ROBERT, WHILE STUDENT, ENGAGGED IN PROPAGANDA AND WRITING
FOR CP. WENT TO MOSCOW IN NINETEEN TWENTYFOUR OR NINETEEN
TWENTYFIVE. IN NINETEEN TWENTYNINE, ROBERT BECAME TROTSKYITE I &#39;
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AND WAS EXPELLED FROM CP. JACK CLAIMS LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF
ROBERT-S ACTIVITIES, EXCEPT THAT ROBERT ARRESTED IN NINETEEN
THIRTYSIX IN SWITZERLAND CARRYING CP PROPAGANDA. IN NINETEEN
THIRTYSEVEN WHEN JACK WAS IN PARIS SOVIET AGENT CONTACTED JACK
AND LEARNED EXACT LOCATION OF ROBERT IN SPAIN WHERE ROBERT
WAS CONNECTED WITH LOYALISTS. IN SUBSEQUENT CONTACT BY SOVIET
AGENT IN PARIS ROBERT WAS ASKED TO REPORT ON TROTSKYITES, BUT
ROBERT UNSUCCESSFUL. INNINETEEN THIRTYEIGHT ROBERT RETURNED
TO LITHUANIA AND WAS THERE WHEN SOVIETS OCCUPIED LITHUANIA
IN NINETEEN FORTY. IN RELATION TO TRIP TO US JACK SOBLE CLAIMS
E WAS IN MOSCOW AND WAS CALLED TO GPU HEADQUARTERS WHERE THAT H
TOLD BY BERIA THAT BERIA WAS AWARE OF SOBLE-S DESIRE
TO GET FAMILY OUT OF LITHUANIA. TRIP WAS ORGANIZED BY SOVIETS
AND INCLUDED SOBLE-S PARENTS, FAMILIES OF JACK AND ROBERT,
THE CHAZENS, NANYA WOLSTON AND DAUGHTER ANSHELELWITZ, ROZOWSKY,
TOKERIS, LADSKY AND ISAAC CHAZEN AND FAMILY AND POSSIBLY OTHERS.
SOBLE STATED THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP WERE AWARE OF HOW
PERMISSION WAS OBTAINED AND THAT THIS WAS RUSSIAN FAVOR. JACK
SAID ROBERT KNEW ESTHER RAND AND ABOUT JACKS uss OF HER AS AGENT.
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SOBLE CLAIMED ROBERT DID NOT KNOW OF ALICE MARTIN._ SOBLE
CLAIMED STERN NOT INTRODUCED TO HIM BY ZUBILIN, BUT ZUBILIN
INSTRUCTED SOBLE TO TELEPHONE STERN. _WHEN SOBLE DID SO HE
WAS IMMEDIATELY GREETED BY STERN AND THEY THEREAFTER MET AT
STERN-S APARTMENT. KOROTKOV, IN NINETEEN FORTYNINE, ADVISED
SOBLE THAT STERNS HAD SOVIET CONTACT OTHER THAN SOBLE. SOBLE
ADMITTED SOVIETS GAVE HIM ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS TO
SET UP CAFETERIA. SOBLE IDENTIFIED PHOTO OF ANATOLI GROMOV
AS SOVIET AGENT HE MET IN WASHINGTON IN NINETEEN FORTYFIVE WHO
WANTED SOBLE TO ESTABLISH DRESS SHOP. CLAIMED DID NOT SEE
GROMOV AGAIN AFTER REFUSAL TO ACCEPT THIS ASSIGNMENT. CLAIMED
FRED BROVERMAN KNEW SOBLE AS A COMMUNIST WHO HAD LIVED IN
RUSSIA AND WHO HAD OBTAINED SOVIET PERMISSION FOR SOBLE FAMILY
TO LEAVE LITHUANIA. SAID LADSKY WAS CP MEMBER SINCE NINETEEN
EIGHTEEN. WORKED FOR RUSSIAN TRADE MISSION, BERLIN, AND LATER
BROKE WITH CP AND BECAME TROTSKYITE. LADSKY WORKED FOR SOVIETS
IN SHANGHAI, BUT SOBLE CLAIMED LADSKY HAD DONE NOTHING FOR
SOVIETS IN CANADA. SOBLE AT CONCLUSION OF INTERVIEW APPEARED
WORN AND CLAIMED EXHAUSTION AND WAS SLOW IN RESPONSE TO
QUESTIONING. SOBLE REQUESTED INTERVIEWS BE WITHHELD UNTIL
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PRESENCE OF GUARD, STATED HE HAD BEEN PROMISED OPPORTUNITY
T0 VISIT WITH HIS WIFE. SOBLE INFORMED THAT THIS MATTER
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STATED BELIEVES JACK SOBLE INSTRUCTED HER TO CONTACT JAMES MARTIN,
MENDEL LADSKY, AND ALEXANDER ELIAS. CALLED MARTIN AT HIS OFFICE AND
FADE APPOINTMENT TO MEET MIDTOUN NYC ABOUT JULY TWENTYSIX-TNENTYSEVEN,
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NINETEEN FIFTY, PREPARED TO PAY HIM FIFTY DOLLARS OR ONE HUNDRED
DOLLARS. DID NOT KNOW TYPE INFO~MARTIN COULD FURNISH. MARTIN REFUSED
TO ACCEPT MONEY BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO SIGN RECEIPT: DID NOT KNOW
FURNISH, DID NOT OFFER THEM MONEY. TYPE INFO LADSKY AND ELIAS COULD
BELIEVED SOVIETS DESIRED REPORTS IN LADSKY AND ELIAS- HANDWRITING
DENIED CONTACTING ANYONE ELSE SPEC? TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THEM. MYRA V
IFICALLY DR. ROBERT soBLE&#39;,&#39; ESTHER RAND, JOHN LOW BEER, 012 ALBAM. STATED
cl - clBELIEVED LADSKY SIGNED PAPER FOR SOVIET PRIOR TO LEAVING LITHUANIA.
MYRA DENIED SHE SIGNED ANYTHING, DOES NOT KNOW IF JACK SIGNED. MET
ELIAS IN CANADA. BELIEVES ESTHER RAND INTRODUCED TO JACK BY CHALIAPIN.
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RAND. VISITED ESTHER AT U. J. A. TO PICK UP SCARF AND TWENTY DOLLARS 3? . U ,1-&#39;_ ",=.&#39;.?¢-_- .sw".. .. .. .. 4SENT TO MYRA BY JACK SOBLE FROM PARIS BROUGHT BY ESTHER NINETEEN rig
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AMONG TROTSKYITES. LATER MYRA LEARNED FROM JACK THIS WAS MARK lg?. ~¢&#39;-Y". Mi,
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J -"vi?-4RUSSIA. JACK SOBLE TOLD MYRA PRIOR TO FORTYEIGHT, ILYA HAD COVER fQ%
NAME OF SLAVA, BUT DENIED SHE KNEW OF HIS ACTIVITIES OR INFO FURNISHED Qég &#39;%%TO JACK SOBLE PRIOR TO INTERVIEW OF JACK SOBLE BY USA, SDNY. DOES NOT T%§
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,,&#39;STERN, AFTER ZUBILIN DEPARTED US. BELIEVES SOBLE NET STERNS AT LATTER-S g
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NINE. GEORGE CONTACTED JACK AND MADE MEETING AT FORTYSECOND STREET RY T
CAFETERIA. MYRA BELIEVES THIS WAS FIRST TIME JACK MET GEORGE. ABOUT _
IHNETEEN FORTYNINE, MYRA AGAIN MET GEORGE ALONE. SHE TEN AT CENTURY ,
~.LETTER CO., HAD DINNER WITH GEORGE AT SMALL ARMENIAN RESTAURANT NEAR
TWENTYFIRST STREET AND FOURTH AVENUE. LENT GEORGE THIRTY DOLLARS
TO HELP FINANCE HIS TRIP TO PARIS. SHE GAVE CARTON OF CHESTERFIELDS &#39;
TO GEORGE FOR JACK IN PARIS. MYRA STATED DIDN&#39;T KNOW THEN GEORGE WAS
INVOLVED. LATER WAS TOLD BY JANE AND GEORGE OF THEIR COVER NAMES.
FIRST MET JANE IN PARIS, NINETEEN FIFTY. JANE HAD RENTED HOUSE U
FOR SUMMER AT TROUVILLE. MYRA STAYED ONLY TWO WEEKS. DENIED SHE PAID
GEORGE OR JANE ANY MONEYS OR THAT THEY SIGNED RECEIPTS. NEVER SAW
THEIR REPORTS. BELIEVES JANE WROTE BIOGRAPHY ON ST. JOHN AND STEPCZK,
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HITH SOVIETS. NYRA CANNOT RECALL SIGNALS NINETEEN ETETY BERNE MEET
. u . &#39;OR PAROL. STATES HAD NET THE SOVIETS AND THUS DID NOT NEED BUT TO 
APPEAR AT CERTAIN THEATRE AT CERTAIN TINE, CANNOT RECALLS DETAILS,
MONTH EVERY THO OR THREE MONTHS. NYRA t
- . 92 0INTRODUCED JANE TO SOVIET PRINCIPALS. DESCRIBED AS /ONE/ ABOUTEXCEPT NEETING WAS END OF
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I-92THIRTYTHIRTYFIVE YEARS, HEAVY SE1, FIVE FEET EIGHT INCHES, BLOND,
FAIR SKIN, DRESSED IN GREY, NO GLASSES, HEALTHY LOOKING, BELIEVED
FRON NOSCON REGION, SPOKE FRENCH POORLY, DID ALL THE TALKING. /THO/ _
ABOUT FIFTYFIVE YEARS, FIVE FOUR, HEAVY, DARK HAIR AND EYES, DORE V
ROUND TYPE FEDORA PULLED DOWN TO EARS, HAD HRINKLED FACE, SHORT NOSE,
DID LITTLE TALKING, DROVE LINOUSINE TYPE BLACK CAR, BUT APPEARED TO BE
OF HIGHER RANK. NYRA CANNOT RECALL IF SHE GAVE A REPORT, BELIEVES
JANE DID. CANNOT RECALL CONVERSATION. MEETING LASTED ABOUT TWENTY
TEmuTEs NHILE RIDING AROUND IN AuTo IN OUTSKIRTS OF ZURICH. RECALLS
IT HAS VERY COLD AT THAT TINE. NYRA AND JANE STAYED AT LOCAL HOTEL,
{E POST, Two on THREE DAYS, REGISTERED UNDER RIGHT NAMES.
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INOUS THAT GEORGE HENT TO YUGOSLAVIA AT JACKTS INSTRUCTIONS TO URITE
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RECALL IF GEORGE ATTEMPTED SECURE JOB AT ANERICAN BASES BUT KNOUS
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DATES AND DETAILS NOT RECALLED. STATES BROKE WITH ZLATOVSKIS BECAUSE ;. ,?
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RECEIVED FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS FRON JANE.
QMZPMNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS FOR COUPLE NONTHS, THEN NORROS DISAPPEARED.
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JANE NET STERNS, NOR BILL BRONDER. NYRA STATED NEVER HNEU EARLE BROUDER~
IND BROTHER UNTIL QUESTIONED BY USA, SDNY. STATED JAINE YANKELSON
- qrIND LEON LEVINSHY, BOTH OF NONTEVIDEO, URUGUAY, NOT INVOLVED. STATED
ZNOUS NOTHING OF EDNARD G. ROBINSON. NYRA APPEARS
NUMEROUS POINTS. SHE INSISTS SHE IS TELLING TRUTH
RECALL DETAILS ON NANY SPECIFIC POINTS.
VERY VACUE on
BUT THAT SHE CANNOT
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HT UHEN NYRA REQUESTED IT DUE TO FATIGNE. INTERVIEW ARRANGED FOR
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COVERING NINETEENYFOUR-NINETEEN THIRTYONE. ADDITIONAL BIOG.
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CORRECTION INSTITUTION, DANBURY, CONN., MORNING AND AFTERNOON FOUR &#39;
_FIFTEEN FIETYSEVEN. DURING AFTERNOON INTERVIEW, WARDEN HEGSTROM ADV
AGENTS IN PRESENCE OF SOBLE THAT HE HAD SPOKEN WITH AUSA GILCHRIST N
AAG TOMPKINS. HEGSTROM STATED TO SOBLE THAT ARRANGEMENTS HAD BEEN
MADE FOR MYRA SOBLE TO VISIT DANBURY PRISON ON FOUR SEVENTEEN NEXT
AND WOULD BE PREMITTED T0 VISIT WITH JACK SOBLE FROM TEN AM TILL AFT}
EVENING MEAL UNACCOMPANIED IN CONFERENCE ROOM WITH GUARD AT DOOR.
AGENTS MADE NO COMMENTS CONCERNING THESE ARRANGEMENTS. RE JACOB ALB!
SOBLE STATED ALBAM RECENTLY TOLD HIM THAT HE, ALBAM, WOULD DENY WRIT]
DOCUMENT GIVEN MORROS AS HE COULD DISGUISE HIS WRITING. SOBLE
ADVISED ALBAM KNEW ALL ABOUT FALSE PASSPORT TECHNIQUES USED IN RUSSIA
AND POSSIBLY WAS EMPLOYED IN THAT DEPARTMENT IN MOSCOW. RE ROBERT
SOBLE, JACK CONTINUED TO DENY THAT HE KNEW OTHER SOURCES FROM WHICHE
ROBERT-RECEIVED INFORMATION OTHER THAN DAUGHTER OF WILHELM KOENEN N
PAREN JOHANNA BEKER PAREN. SOBLE CLAIMED ROBERT CONTINUED CONTACTS
WITH CHOUNDENKO AT LATTER PART OF FORTY FIVE AND CALIMED ROBERT-S
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ASSOCIATION WITH CHOUNDENKO BROKE OFF OVER AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE 4_§
ADVANCED TO ROBERT BY SOVIETS
MEETING WITH RA. RE ESTHER RAND, SOBLE SAID HIS FIRST Aé
ND TOOK PLACE NINETEEN FORTYFOUR, NYC. .$OBLE SAID HE ,;
wAs INSTRUCTED BY CHALIAPIN To APPEAR AT A MEETING PLACE, MIDTOWN T7§
NEW YORK, AND CARRY RECOGNITION SIGNAL, WHICH SOBLE CAAIMED HE DOES NOT?
.,,.RECALL, BUT STATES WAS POSSIBLY A MAGAZINE. AT MEETING PLACE, gANp »i¥._ ,...92:*
WAS ACCOMPANIED BY ANOTHER RUSSIAN, WHO, ACCORDING TO RANDZS LATER &#39;§
:¢,;»5ADVICE TO SOBLE, HAD BEEN HER SOVIET CONTACT UP UNTIL THAT TIME. T
DESCRIPTION OF SOVIET OBTAINED. SOBLE SAID HE WAS INTRODUCED TO:RAN7R§
92 9&#39;T._y-2AS SAM AND BELIEVES SHE WAS INTRODUCED BY CODE NAME WHICH HE ERTs
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.1 ,3:CHOUNDENKO. SOBLE SAID HE MET RAND EVERY TWO WEEKS OR EVERY MONTH IN Ci
MIDTOWN AND OBTAINED REPORTS FROM HER. HE SAID THESE REPORTS CONCERNED
_1INFORMATION REGARDING JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS AND THE HEAD OF THE ZIONIST?
ORGANIZATION, ONE GOLDSTEIN. HE STATED THAT HE DID NOT REMEMBER MAKING&#39;
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PAGE THREE &#39;
REGULAR MONEY PAYMENTS TO ESTHER RAND BUT, ACCORDING WITH HER WISHES, L
HE ENTERTAINED HER AT GOOD RESTAURANTS. SOBLE WAS QUESTIONED AS TO &#39;
> WHETHER HE HAD GIVEN RAND GIFTS AND STATED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A
DESIRE OF CHOUNDENKO, PROBABLY IN NINETEEN FORTYFIVE, HE GAVE&#39;RAND A Ii
- .&#39;GOLD wATcH. SOBLE SAID THE wATcH HAs AN AMERICAN MADE WATCH, 
PURCHASED BY THE sov1ETs, GIVEN TO HIM BY CHOUNDENKO, AND PASSED BY &#39;»»HIM TO RAND. SOBLE SAID HE VISITED RANDTSIHOME ON FOURTH STREET
9NYC, ON ONE OCCASION WHEN HE WAS STILL KNOW TO.RAND AS SAM AND MET C!
JACK RAND THERE. HOWEVER, JACK RAND DID NOT STAY DURING HIS MEETING }égWITH~ESTHER_RANDT*RAND KNEW THAT HE WAS FROM SOVIETS AND WAS INTRODUCg%
TO JACK RAND AS SAM. SOBLE RECALLED THAT AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER, gg
ALFRED STERN WISHED TO BE PUT IN TOUCH WITH THECOMMUNIST PARTY. jg
SOBLE SAID HE INTRODUCED RAND TO ALFRED STERN AND LATER LEARNED THAT ¤
. 92-&#39;
.2 RAND HAD INTRODUCED STERN TO A COMMUNIST PARTY FUNCTIONARY. SOBLE 
CALIMED THAT HE DID NOT KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THIS CP FUNCTIONARY.
SUBSEQUENT TO HIS LAST CLAIMED CONTACT WITH CHOUNDENKO, WHICH HE 
PLACES IN LATE NINETEEN FORTYFIVE, HE DISCLOSED TO THE RANDS HIS T
IDENTITY AND THEREAFTER, THEY HAD QUOTE soc1AL&#39;HEET1Ncs uNQuoTE. &#39;
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SOBLE SAID HE WAS UNCERTAIN AS TO WHEN HE INTRODUCED MYRA SOBLE TO RAND
HE CLAIMED THAT HE TOLD THE RANDS HIS BROTHER, ROBERT, WAS A DOCTOR
AND THAT SUBSEQUENTLY BOTH RANDS USED ROBERT AS92A PHYSICIAN. "
SOBLE CLAIMED THAT THE MEETINGS OF ROBERT WITH THE RANDS WERE QUOTE I W
NOT POLITICAL, UNQUOTE THOUGH THEY PROBABLY DISCUSSED GENERAL TOPICS
CONCERNING RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES. SOBLE STATED THAT ESTHER RANW
HAS ALWAYS DESIRIOUS OF RETURNING TO THE SOVIET UNION FOR A VISIT. I
RE ALICE AND JAMES~MARTIN COLON SOBLE STATED ALICE MARTIN WAS
INTRODUCED TO HIM BY ESTHER RANRZ HE CLAIMED HE wAs UNABLE TO PLACE I
THE DATE OF THIS INTRODUCTION BUT STATED IT WAS WHILEqUAMES*MARTIN§WAS{
STILL IN THE ARMY. AT THIS -MEETING &#39;1-92&#39;?LI_CI-I MARTIN STATED THAT {JAMES} &#39;7
MARTIN COULD BE OF SERVICE TO SOBLE AS THEY BOTH HAD BEEN COMMUNISTS &#39;
AND AME§ WAS FAMILIAR WITH WORKERS MOVEMENTS IN THE US. SOBLE STATED
THA&#39;1,ALICE.. BOTH KNEW SOBLE TO BE CONNECTED I
WITH THE sovIETs. AFTER *.1Ag1_1-;§¢§A_13jr__I_I_I>I.?;,S". RELEASE FROM THE ARMY, SOBLE
STATED HE MET MARTIN IN THE COMPANY OF ALICE AND ESTHER RAND ON THE
STREET NEAR IRE __b2_ART~I-N»_§ APARTMENT ow NIMETY.-1.sEvEMIR&#39; STREET, NYC,
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PAGE FIVE 92 _ I I
AND THEYDVISITED MARTINS APARTMENT. &#39;SOBLE STATED HE CONTINUED CONTACTE
WITH MARTIN UP UNTIL JULY, NINETEEN FIFTY. SOBLE EEAIMED THAT TEE -Z;
PAYMENTS HE MADE TO gAMEs,MAETIN WERE IE THE AMOUNTS OF QUOTE THENTYFIVE
DASH THIRTY DOLLARS UNQUOTE AND THAT;MARTIN SUPPLIED HIM INFORMATION .Fé
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CONCERNING THE AMERICAN LEGION AND VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS. HE SAID THKT. "S: .
MARTIN WOULD NOT SIGN RECEIPTS NOR GIVE WRITTEN REPORTS AS MARTIN STATED
TO SOBLE QUOTE YOU WILL BE IN RUSSIA BUT I WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR LI
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THIS. UNQUOTE. ACCORDING TO SOBLE MARTIN-S REPORTS CONCERNED
~» . , .
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS WITH DETAILS AS TO THIER &#39;
DRINKING HABITS, GAMBLING HABITS, ETC.. SOBLE STATED THAT MARTIN
.. ~ ,.
_CLAIMED THAT FOR HIM TO GO HIGHER IN VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS HE WOULD L
NEED A GREAT SUM OF MONEY AND THAT THIS MIGHT NOT ACCOMPLISH HIS RISE *
IN VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS. SOBLE STATED THAT THE SOVIETS ON SEVERAL
OCCASIONS ASKED HIM TO GET INFORMATION FROM MARTIN AND THAT THE LAST.
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TIME HE SAW MARTIN HE WAS ENDEAVORING TO GET INFORMATION REQUESTED BY Q
THE SOVIETS. HOWEVER, MARTIN AT THIS LAST MEETING IN NINETEEN FIFTY
DECLINED AND DESIRED TO BREAK OFF THE RELATIONSHIP. RE SYLVIA CALLEN &#39;
&#39;5. 2. ~
DOXSEE... SOBLE STATED THAT HE WAS INTRODUCED BY THE ZUBILINS TO LUCY A
BOOKER. HE PLACED THE DATE OF THIS INTRODUCTION AS NINETEEN FORTYTHREE
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PAGE SIX &#39;
IN NYC. ETHE ZUBILINS TOLD HIM THAT HE&#39;NAS TO PAY THE RENT FOR BOOKER-S
APARTMENT. ON VISITS TO BOOKER-S HE NOULD OBTAIN INFORMATION FROM
.DDxsEE WHO wAs THE SECRETARY TO CANNON OF THE swP. SOBLE CLAIMED THAT
D0xsEE FURNISHED HIM wITH TYPEHHITTENi§EPoBTs CONCERNING THE FACTIONAL 7
FIGHTS WITHIN THE TROTSKYITE MovEMENT§$ HE sAID THAT DoxsEE CONTINUALLY
REQUESTED THAT SHE BE RELEASED FROM THIS WORK AS SUCHWORK MADE HER &#39;
NEBvous. SOBLE sTATED HE TUBNED DQ§EEE-s REPORTS OVER To CHALIAPIN ;
AND LATER TO CHOUNDENKO. cHouNDENHd§IN LATE NINETEEN FORTYFIVE
AUTHORIZED HIM TO PERMIT DOXSEE TO LEANE THE SWP AND GO BACK TO CHICAGOQ
SOBLE CLAIMED THAT HE KNEW NOTHING OEKDOXSEE-S LIFE, INCLUDING HER I
Q5", .g&#39;A .. "HUSBAND AND CLAIMED SHE NEVER DISCUSSED HER ACTIVITY OR SUPERIORS PRIOR
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To SOBLE. SOBLE sTATED THAT NHEN HE MAB INTRODUCED TO BOOKER BY THE
ZUBILINS THEY INDICATED THAT BOOKER HAD WORKED WITH THEM IN BERLIN AND_< 92 ~ x .WAS COMPLETELY TRUSTWORTHY. RE MARKNZBDROWSKI COLON SOBLE INTENSIVELY
INTERROGATED CONCERNING MARK ZBORONSKI: "HE REITERATED INFORMATION
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PREVIOUSLY GIVEN RE ZBOROWSKI, ADDIN§ ONLY THAT suBsEQuENT To soBLE-s &#39;
INTRODUCTION or zBoBowsHI To CHOUNDENKOQISOBLE ouT OF FRIENDSHIP MET
ZBOROWSKI 0N Two suBsEQuENT occAsIoN%§?§HE CLAIMED THAT ZBOROMSKI
TOLD HIM THAT CHOUNDENKO HAD BEEN MMQHYMQBE STRICT IN DEMANDING
c ,~ »-&#39;,INFORMATION FROM ZBOROWSKI AND AKsIN§iZBoBowsxI To INTENSIFY HIs
/£2 W 3&#39;»INFILTRATION OF THE TROTSTYITE AND MEN§HEvIK MovEMENTs. AT A LATER DATE
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IN Moscow FEDOTOV TOLD SOBLE THAT
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IT wAs INDICATED THAT ZBOROWSKI MI
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ZBOROWSKI, ACCORDING TO SOBLE, WERE
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WORK FOR THE SOVIETS IN ANOTHER
LADSKY, LADSKY ADVISED
ORGANIZATIONS AND WAS THENSKI HAD BEEN MISHANDLED- SOBLE&#39;
RECONTACTED BY THE sovIETs. 
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BY ANY OTHER SOVIETS. CONCERNING
SOMETIME IN THE WINTER OF NINETEEN
ZUBILIN HAD ASKED HIM TO GET IN TO
TO NYC AND THAT EUBILIN, SOBLE AND
TO NEW JERSEY VIA THE GEORGE WASH
WHICH ZUBILIN STATED WAS OWNED BY
NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ASSIGNMENT
THAT ELIAS wAs QuEsTIoNED BY ZUBII
THAT ELIAs HNEN wHo MIGHT BE OF v
THAT ELIAs FURNISHED ZUBILIN WITH
BE APPROACHED IN cANADA. SOBLE c1
PEOPLE WERE. SOBLE CLAIMED THAT HE
HAD CONTACTED ELIAS IN cANADA. HE
ELIAs HAD BEEN COMMUNISTS IN CANADA
vIsITED A SUMMER HOME THE ELIAsEs
cALLED RENOIR /PH/, INCLUDING FRED
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_ WERE MADE. SOBLE SAID THAT WHEN HE
END PAGE EIGHTELIAs, SOBLE RELATED THAT
DAsH FORTYTHREE, THAT
ELIAs AND THAT ELIAs HAD COME
TOOK A RIDE IN zuBILIN-s CAR
IDGE To AN OLD FARM HOUSE
IANs. SOBLE CLAIMED HE DID
I
_TO RECEIVE, BUT HE STATED
POSSIBLE SOURCES IN cANADA
THE sovIETs. SOBLE sTATED
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COULD NOT RECALL WHO THEsE
KNOW WHETHER THE sovIETs
THAT BOTH ALEXANDER AND ELIZA
T PROMINENT COMMUNISTS
IDE OF MONTREAL IN A PLACE
SOBLE sTATED THAT THIs SUMMER
, BUT THAT No ARRESTS
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THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE
US IN NINETEEN FORTYTWO
FUNDS TOOK PLACE ON THE
AND THAT ELIAS-S OFFICE. ¢
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MEETING ELIAS WAS THAT ZUBILIN HAS ?3§§;
SUBSEQUENT TO THE DISCLOSURE OF Gouggiggg
FEAR THAT HE MIGHT BE DETEGTED. sD§§§§RATED THAT AT DNE TIME ELISA
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THAT THE TRANSFER OF THESE
F THE IMPERIAL BANK OF CANADA
ENT TO THE IMPERIAL BANK ATw
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HAT 2UBILINS REAGTIDN TO
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IN CANADA, EXPRESSEDWITH ELIAS. ELIAS,
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