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SOBLE claims MARTHA STERN mas much more oapablethan'
ALFRED, but she was more "secretive" concerning her work for
the Soviets. SOBLE states ZUBILIN remarked that as long as
Soviets were in contact with MARTHA, she would control ALFRED
STERN. SOBLE claims he does not know that JANE ZLATOVSKI furnished
infonmation to MARTHA when JANE employed OSS, but said that JANE
and MARTHA were exceptionally close, and JANE could have given
such information.
Interviews of SOBLE continuing. scam again protested
he desired to make full =nd complete statement, but that his
nemory had not returned as yet to previous vigor. SOBLE denied
that he was attempting to protectROBERT SOBLE or others. Denied
he had made a deal to protect ROBERT SOBLE or any other person.
SOBLE claims he formerly had good memory, but that
incarceration, Bellevue Hospital, had hindered it. Interviews
continue to proceed slowly as SOBLE speaks in generalities and
must be pressed for details in each and every instance.
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ZLATOVSKIQ 80818 etateahe waaintredueed to JAKE at hone of
, l!AR1!H1'ned ALFR8D'8!EH_ in m"'mmy after her retrun fran
Indonesia -HovenberofoD'eoe"mber§ 1945!. 8081-E blained 8!EEH'
touched fer"JAIB'8 reliability. " BOBIE denied that be knew or
was told that JAKE Ind workedter 088 in Indonesia or U. S.
. ' SOBIE admits receiving in presence of STERN a report
by JANE on Indoneeia. SOBLE etatee reportwas typed in the
office of a mane oi JAH8'8 in Iaehington, 1*. 6. rims» em
oi report an shortly after henet JANE; SOBIE turned report
over to O-' 80313 recalled that later he noticed
eimileritybetween contenti of report and speech by HAHUIIBKY,
Soviet delegate at UI, on ndeneeia.1 SOBIE amen Ieveral other meetinge with JANE" and the 1 l
STERN8 frequently. A100 admits 'borr'mring about "$3,000.00 front
JANE but states that thia loan was made on personal basil.
" " SOBLE denies that he asked JAKE to go to Ganada ihenshe ne't__BORIB BOBLE; Y gt claim! that JANE insisted 6n' n'92akin'g'
trip to Canada for win r sports. SOBIE denied that he instructed
oi- asked JAN'B'to go to France in 1947. Admits that in 1947 he
arranged through KOUSHETZOV in Paris that JANE meet Soviet cen-
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Cafeteria, NW in larch, 1949, SOBIE and i21Ai0V_8KI iere ob-»
served to meet at 42nd_-8treet Cafeteria after ZLATGVBKI hadtelephoned SOBLE requesting such meeting!. 8OBI2'o1e.iiz's atthis meeting GEORGE was trying 'to'g'et SOBLE to repay loan fraunriov-sew
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JANE. SOBLE denies receiving infomationfrom GEORGE concerning
immm military intelligence in Austria. sonm also
denies instructing GEORGE to obtain job with U. 8. military
authorities in urep. in ioso but mm. that esoaos was trying
toget any jobs on his own and_d.id attempt to get job with
military auiorities in 1950. $0813 also denies that he q
instruoted JANE and GEOHIE to make trips to Austria in 1960_to
oontaot U. S. intelligenee personnel they knew there. 8031.3
admits paying GEORGE and JAKE Ql5_0.00 per month.
B0313 was vigorously interrogated at all points and
was told hesrae withholding information and not making full
disclosures. _
It is apparent that 808LE_when questioned oonoerning
the obtaining of national defense information refuses to admit
that be and other persons involved in this oase have obtained
and were instructed to obtain such information. BOBLE appears
to be attempting to build up o/story that he was an unirilling
victim of Soviet pressure and now desires to oonvey a story
as tohow persons snob as hinseli were uiedby Soviets for
espionage as _92m1rilling tooiaqo: the Soviets.
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SOBLE interviewed p.m., 4/23/57, Federal
Correctional Institution, Danbury, Connecticut.
SOBLE stated that he new recalled knowing that
JANE ZLATOVSKI was with DONOVAN General WILLIAM F.DONOVAN - OSS!, and that JANE_met DONOVAN personally. SOBLE
W88 unable to recall if JANE ZLATOVSKI had a code name
at the time he met her. SOBLE denied asking GEORGE
ZLATOVSKI to look for a US Government Job in Europe and
recalled that GEORGE ZLATOVSKI had also located a Job
at UNESCO on his own initiative.
hadSOBLE claimed that he could not recall if he
asked MORROS to carry reports for him to Vienna. He
denied knowledge of MORROS ever making a report on
DEWEY and WARREN.
butSOBLE at first claimed he could not recall,
later remembered that he introduced ZLATOVSKI to
MORROS in Paris. SOBLE claimed he could not recaD.stating
that he was going to have JEANNIE OMTVEDT obtain a Job
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STERNS in New York City, probably in l9H6.
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. SOBLE also recalled meeting JANE ZLATOVSKIat a small hotel in New York City, but claimed inabilityto recall in whose room JANE was staying. SOBLE claimedinability to recall statement that he had agent at_Encyclopedia Britannica. SOBLE recalled that meeting withthe ZLATOVSKIS in Paris were at the Cafe Rotund, at the
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the STERNS mentioned BROWDERS. Other than mention of
names by STERNS, SOBLE claimed he recalled no other
incident concerning the BROWDERS. SOBLE denied that
he had stated that JANE ZLATOVSKI had produced a
"pile of papers" for MARTHA STERN. with reference
to house in Washington which STERN took SOBLE to visit
in 1945, SOBLE stated that STERN had probably used the
house for clandestine purposes on prior occasions since
STERN knew the owners of the house well VAN CASTEEL!.
SOBLE advised that MARTHA STERN had probably told him
that JANE ZLATOVSKI had been in espionage work before
he, SOBLE met JANE. SOBLE denied making a statement
that JANE had furnished "two valises" of information
on Indonesia which was used by the Soviets. SOBLE
again claimed that he did not recall giving MORROS' re-
ports on ZLATOVSKI and OMTVEDT to carry to Vienna for
him. SOBLE denied having made the statement that he hadto pai JANE ZLATOVSKI $11,000 after his return from Moscow
in 19 9. SOBLE denied that he had paid money or given
gifts to JANE FOSTER in the United States. He again
admitted paying the ZLATOVSKIS $150 per month in Europe
and stated that the ZLATOVSKIS gave him receipts for this
money signed "JANE" and "GEORGE." SOBLE stated that these
receipts were given by him to KOUSNETZOV.
SOBLE stated that at one time he was contacting
two different Soviet superiors in Europe, that is the Vice
Consul at Berne, Switzerland and KOUSNETZOV in Paris.
SOBLE stated he did not recall the name of the person
who came from Moscow to Paris and contacted him in 1950.
He denied urging MORROS to make up with STERN or to enter
another Soviet Cover Company after MORROS and STERN separated
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' MYRA SOBLE, in interview 4/23 instant, stated
recalls that on day in 1948 when@KOROTKOY requestedto send money to Argentina, JACK SOBLE told her, itfor two tailors. MYRA cannot recall amount, but believes
more than $400.00, name was a short one, and Jewish,possibly MINTZ. She believes.KOROEK! save her cash with
which she purchased a money order at Credit Suisse, Geneva./.
Denied knowing of other transfer through MORROS, orZLATOVSKIS. ~
MYRA cannot recall any meeting with.JAHES1HAREIHJuly 4, 1950 and is very confused on dates and events.Cannot recall meeting OSCAR YOLLES in Montreal duringJuly, 1950, when she contacted LADSKY and ELIAS for
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rich cousin named YOLLES at Toronto. MYRA still maintains. YOLLES not involved. Stated ELIAS has been very depressed
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MYRA to be interviewed #/24 next. GEORGE WOLFsubject's attorney now plans visit to JACK at Danbury,latter part of week. will request USA permission to
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SOBLE repeated story that F914!!! of Amtorg amt lettereoneeming offering 01' bristles tc N318 SOB-LB in Canada. in 1942.JACK SGJBLE denied knowing at that time the siguifioenee of thisletter, altheugh he admitted that the Soviets in Russia. bed toldhim they would make contact with balm in this manner. 8012-E thanrepeated story of meeting rem: and ZUBII-IN in New York City.
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MYRA SOBLE, on interview h/2h instant, identifiedscarf received from ESTHER RAND l9hB, sent to MYRA by SOBLE
from Paris. Also identified small piece costume jewelry givento MYRA by A. K. STERN, Christmas, l9h¢. Stated now positiveROBERT SOBLE, during December, 1956, stated the individual
with whom he had a fight on 57th Street, NYC, was the"Professor". JACK told MYRA ZUBILIN did not like ROBERT SCBLE
because he acted like a "Sphinx".
Stated ROBERT and JACK did not discuss the Boris
Morros music Company in front of her, but she is almost surethat ROBERT knew JACK was introduced to MORROS and STERN byZUBILIN. MYRA believes RDBERT knows ALBAM'S background andinvolvement. Stated about l9h2-l9h3, ROBERT told JACK and MYRAthe record at Paris Prefecture of Police on "SOBOLEVICIUS"applied to him, and that he was asked to leave Paris, 1937;that while in Paris, 1937, ROBERT hailed a taxi, one night anentered it; the driver was one "MOLINERE" a well-known TrotskyiteROBERT had been a Trotskyite, had just returned from $pain where
he served in medical corps of "Revolutionists".
MYRA cannot recall what ROBERT was doing in Paris,
but a couple of days after meeting "MOLINERE", ROBERT qascalled to Prefecture of Police and requested to leave France.Stated JACK said he met ROBERT in Paris, while he, JACK, was onSoviet Mission against the Trotskyites at Paris. ROBERT nevermentioned if he knew ZBOROWSKI, even after his name appeared in
newspapers.
" ' . Stated ROBERT treated GUBITCHEV, who came to him from-
H.I.P. that GUBITCHEV one time presented ROBERT.with a very f- . _ _ _ -,,,_ "1, y
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saw them. Believes JANE prepared reports on all her contacts in
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for US. Does not know if report prepared by JANE on "STEPCZYK".
- Knows JANE and GEORGE received $1¬O monthly salary from
JACK. Stated does not recall GEORGE, at JAGK's request, sought
US Government job. Recalls while at ZLATOVSKI apaetment GEORGEread her a letter he was writing to someone, protesting refusal
of some position because GEORGE was considered a security risk.
JANE laughingl told MYRA, after listening to GEORGE'S protestsYin the letter, she, JANE,was almost convinced GEORGE was not
a security risk.
JAOK told MYRA in 19b? about trip to Canada, 19b7,
JANE and meeting BORIS SOBLE. JACK told MYRA he met JANE
accidently at railroad station. JACK, on b/16 last, admitted
to MYRA of his "affairs" with JANE in NYC, l9h7. twith
'MYRA Will be re-interviewed A/2% next.
Phonograph records, made by Boris Morros Music Co.
obtained by JACK ip to Hollywood with STERN, l9h,
furnished NYO by A/2b instant. will be exhibited to
subjects for identification. _
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MYRA SOBLE again furnished details regardingaROBERTSOBI.E'S trip to Moscow from Lithuania in 1938. Wentfor express purpose of having JACK SOBLE contact Sovietsto make arrangements for SOBLES to get out of Lithuania.MYRA advised that JACK SOBLE saw a Soviet official inMoscow, and that she later learned that this officialwas BERIA. Stated she is not certain that ROBERT SOBLEsaw BERIA, but does know that ROBERT SOBLE knew thatJACK saw BERIA and was aware of purpose of JACK SOBLE'Sinterview with BERIA and also had knowledge of subsequentarrangements made for fraudulent passports to get EDBLES
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JAQK scam interviewed 4/26/57 at FederalCorrectional institution, Danbury, Connecticut. SOBLEagain stated that the first time he met GEORGE ZLATOVSKIwas at apartment of ALFRED and MARTHA STERN in New York City. ~;,SOBLE claimed he could not recall the date of meetingor that GEORGE ZLATOVSKI was then in the Army. SOBLE .related that the only discussion at this meeting concerned
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Re ESTHER RAND, SOBLE admittedwthat he andlYRA visited a summer camp with jJAcKfo£'3as1asRgg@M~;;,SOBLE claimed not able to remember date or name of camp,but that it was possibly "Chester's". SOBLE stated thatit was a__Cqmmunist camp as he saw the "Daily Worker"the;-eiS and SOBLES stayed at camp for almost a week.Stategrthat both RAIQDS admitted their Communist Partymembership to him. ESTHER RAND told SOBLE she was a member ~of the Communist Party cell in UJA where she was employed,but membership was not opendy known. §ACK RAND»-admittedhe was a CP member, but membership always claixdestine" ' W .,_-;.since he was union organizer at the time. SQBLE statedthat the Soviets apparently were unaware that V Fwhile working for the Soviets, retained CP emmbership as this» _ }
was contrary to general Soviet instructions. SOBlE3statedRANDY admitted that she had been a member of CPbut does not recall specific GP cell or group _ m
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law. SOBLE stated that he did not tell ESTHER,of his.
own past except that he came from ussia and was an
old time CP member. SOBLE recalled that MYRA SOBLE
had told him that in 1948 when MYRA applied for a passport,
the passport was delayed. MYRA mentioned thedelay.
to ESTHER and ES'liEQ_R_ told MYRA that there was a lawyer
associated wiillewish organizations in Washington who
took care of passports for t"-e organization and that
ZBSTBIER would expedite MYRA's passport through such a
lawyer. MYRA also told ,'JACK that ESTBEI} had told l."YRA
that ESTHER had contacted the lawyer, and the lawyer had
gone to the passport office and expedited MYRA's passport.
Y'RA~ later received the passport through the mail. MYRA
SOBLE will be interviewed concerning this matter,
including possibility that lawyer had Soviet connections.
JACK SOBLE claims his last meeting with ESTHER
was in Paris in 1948, and he did not subsequently meet her
in New York. SOBLE stated that recently before arrest,
he inquired of ROBERT SOBLE who told him that¢ESTHER~v
was still a patient of ROBERTS. SOBLE claimed that the
last Soviet contact he had withi.'li§_,4"ZHE_1§_ RAND was in late
1945, that is a month or two before he last saw CHOUNDENKO.
SOBLE reiterated that reports of ESTHER RAND
dealt solely with Jewish organizations, Arab Jewish
relations and Mid-East oil concessions. He stated that
the reportsȤ31lTHEB gave to himwere typewritten and about
two to four pages in length. Claimed he could not recall
the nmnber of such reports. SOBLE denied that he ever took
any reports of ESTHER to the Soviets in Europe. SOBLE
stated thatESTHER RAND gave him a copy of "B1ack Book", which
concerned Nazi atrocieties, and on parts of which ESTHER
claimed tohave worked. _SOBLE ca ain claimed he..pcou1d_,not-now_ ' ." Y: 4.
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the oasis for association of ESTHER"RANDStated ALICE Ms not regularly employed during his associationwith her as her father was wealthy, however, dhe did havesome secretarial and research jobs. SOBLE claims he doesnot recall what these jobs were. SOBLE claims that JAMES ~ told him he had been member of CP before war, but hadleft party while in Army. SOBLE recalled last meeting withJAQEESQ-MP§RTIN was in 1950, when MARTIN refused offerof money by MYRA SOBLE. SOBLE claims last meetingwasfriendly and he did not try to exert any pressure on1"MARTIN,SOBLE claims he does not know whether ALICE had Sovietcontact prior to him SOBLE! but that from incident re RICHARD
LAUTERBACH as previously mentioned by SOBLE, SOBLEpresumed that ALICE had some type of acquaintance with theSoviets. SOBLE claims that neither ESTHER RAND nor ALICEMARTIN introduced or suggested any other person to him
for use of such person by the Soviets.
Re ALFRED STERN, SOBLE admitted that in 1946,ALFRED and MARTHA STERN made SOBLE a gift of $4,000 incash. Cash was paid to him by ALFRED STERN in STERN'soffice, NYC, where STERN kept money in a safe. SOBLEclaimed that this gift had nothing to do with Soviets, but
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Re MARK ZBOROWSKI, SOBLE recalled that in1949, in Moscow, KOROTKOV told SOBLE that he, SOBLE wasnot to meet ZBORGWSKI as ZBOROWSKI was "being taken careof" or "is being taken care of". SOBLE claimed he couldnot be more definite on this point, but stated that thisindicated to him that ZBOROWSKI had a new Soviet contact or
some otheryasowrietl contact. SOBLE claimed that the photosiofi "BILL" and - CATHERINE ? are notiamiliar. to him. _ SOBI.2Ei.,'i/ rl1 .=' " 1;: '91,. . ..z Ag4
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supplied by SYLVIA DOXSEE. SOBLE denied meetingany person such as MILLER with ROBERT SOBLE. SOBLE wouldnot make a clear denial on these matters but stated hecould not recall. During interview, SOBLE continued to assertthat he formerly had good memory, but blamed stay at BellevueHospital for poor memory now. e stated that he may
recollect in the future butvvas again vigorously informedthat it was necessary for him to supply all informationimmediately. During interview, Warden HETSTROM, 1-"01,Danbury, Connecticut, advised SOBLE in presence of Agents,that in accordance with instructions of AUSA GILCHRIST,SOBE is to be sent to New York City on 4/29 next Bor con-
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