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r DO NOT WRITE IN THESE SFACIIESubjects Homie Rowe ani1
and each testified as efense witnesses in:
John Ramsey, at Guthrie and Oklahoma City, l
Cklehoma, for the muruer of Henry Roan, an Osege Tndien. Subject ?
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Henry Roan on.Gurley Johnson, now eceasé
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corroborated by testimony of Subjects '
of which was contrary to the true facts
rmmm BEGIENIKG. Subject Cornett, now serving sentences
aggregating thirty-five 5! years for bank robooriesg.
ewith a sentence pending against nin of eighteen 6!
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sir.
es the one Henry Roan took?
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Is zL¢ru 1 cuutlw guard or ;;ue Lgere?
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Was thie ery Keen you say with Roy Buncn the wiie cf Henry
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They went
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Give the jury
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Q. How much is that?
A. 18 months.
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A. Yes, sir. "
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