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HALCOLI: And just thanks, thanks to Allah,
I, se far, I've been successful.
But I'n like this. I believe that'
when you are born, a black nan born
in this particular society, you
are faced with certain dangers
already. You get used to it and
plus the stand I took when I was
in the Black Iuslim movement was ,
uncompromising. I defended an
indefensible position, I think, and
I'was that indefensible position.
Anybody who defends an indefensible
position as well as I did must have
believed in it.
KUP: You want to apologize to me for
our first argument many years
ago - .
MALCOLM: No. No. Ho. I won't apo1ogize,'
KUP. For this reason. You see,
I don't think that the burden is
upon any black man in this
society to apologize for any '
stand he takes for this reason.
Host of us are attracted to things
extreme primarily because of the
extreme negative condition that"
we live in and that has been permitted
to exist already far too long.
KUPi Yeah;-but our first argument; "
Brother MALCOLM, was not over that
condition which I readily admitted.
Mine was over'the position of the
Black Muslims} the very thing that
you,are nor denouncing and let me
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said this; that I! not denouncingwéé
it because society wants no to
or some agency wants no to.
And I'n not denouncing, I can
explain its existence and defend
its existence. 'LIAIBOLI8
That is because you're very glib
and very able with words.KUP:
Ho. Ho. The Black Muslim movement
is the result of the failure oi a
society. The hate that exists
in the American society is what
has produced the frustration that
exists in black.HALCOLI:
KUP: The same thing is true or the
Klu Klux Klan.
MALCOLM: NO. NO. NO. It is a different
thing altogether.
But the same thing is the root of
racial hatred, is it not?KUP:
MALCOLM: No. No. No.
KUP: Sure it is.
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OI EH15Klux Klan is a part
society.MALCOLM:
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and your B1ack'HusIims is the
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Sir, the Klu Kluz Klan is, is a it
part of the society which has l
absolutely not fulfilled itself,
fulfilled its promise for 22
million black Americans. And
it is the part of that society that
has been used to frighten the black
Americans into taking positive
action to eliminate the negative '
conditions. How, the Black Huslis
movement is the result of frustration
that exists among black people and
who see'no hope of the society
itself creating a real door so they
take the door that is placed in
front of it. Now, I myself as I
said, I an a Muslim who believes
in brotherhood end who believes
in not Judging a man by the color
of his skin. But on the other hand,
I have to face the reality of the
fact that I live in a society in
which brotherhood has not become
a reality and because of that, then
I have to take a stand that is
uncompromising on the side of my
people egninst enything or any
person that stands in the way of
our being recognized and accepted'
as human beings in the same context
with all of humanity.
Ie have to pause here for a message
but before we do, I'd like to make
a point that we knew that MALCOLM
probably eonld say none derogatory
things about ELIJAH MUHAMHAD'and
we asked the Black Huslims'orthe""
Muslims as the§'prefér to be caIIedI'
to have a representative here, either
in person or on the hot line. They"
declined but they said they may have
an-answer here next week.
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KUP: And now we can switch to that next ~
week and representing the._%
luslin
organization is the heavyweight
champion of the world, CASSIUS CLAY,
who prefers to be known by his '
Islam name, IUHAIMAD ALI. JOHN,
I think that's the right facts,
are they not, that you promised to
have the champ here the following
week?
JOHN: I did.
KUP: A11 right, we'd like to have you
see now what the champ answered
in his appearance the following
week.
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KUP: Champ, last week a friend or yours,
HALCOLH X, said on this shoe here
and he denounced the so-called _
Muslims oi which you are a member
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the Honorable ELIJAH MUHAMMAD,
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not recognized because they're not; -
tamous but they've made a big case
out of me and they're putting me in
the position 0! being an authority
or a minister which I an not. The
knowledge that I have is a grain
of sand in a desert compared to
the knowledge oi the Honorable
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD. 30 what, as far
as MALCOLM I is concerned. I mean
I don't even think about him. Ie don't
think about him and I: not retaliating.
I don't want to say anything about him.
I'd rather not_ta1k about him. He's
nothing but a fellow who was an ex-dope
addict, a prisoner, a Jailbird who had
no education, couldn't read or write,
who heard about the Fonorahie ELIIEF '
MUHAMAD, who took him off the streets,
cleaned him up and educated him enough
to go out and debate and you might
say defeat any opponent that he met
in interviews and -
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know he made a statement about "t
an airplane blowing up; 130 whites
from Atlanta, and he'wasn't
representing the HonorabIe'EL1JAHMUHAMMAD when he said that, ' "
and natura11y"he had to let tne">
world know that he's hot that kind
of man to make mark of things like
that and also the death oi the -
President, the great President'""
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CLAY: the leader is a wise man. He had
to set him down and tell him that
we don't do things like this. The
press kept building his up and
making MALCOLI X think that he was
the number 2 man. MALCOLM I the
number 2 man. MAICOLI X this.
ieli, if you donit know much-about
this you would think IALCOLI was
the leader. And he got the big
hand. The press got it and new he
was. He couldn't take the spanking.
He disobeyed our leader. -He came
down to Iliami, Florida. I was nice
enough to pay his way and his family's -
to Miami, Florida. And I took his -e
his dinner every day. Because he
couldn't eat in the motel that
he was staying in because they
served-. And I have heard him
say many a time that we are not
Black Muslims. That is the name
the press gave it. I understand
that he was on television saying
that we are Black Muslims. 'I
ahderstahd that he also said that
he didn't, that he had heard that
Islam in the East is taught different
from it is in the West." And he
believes in the Holy Koran and
the teachings or its people. Iell
if that is true, those people in
the East believe in the Holy Koran. '
They have the Holy Koran. And in the
Holy Koran it says that Muslims
don't take Jews and Gentiles for
friends. Or use a'Christian'for
friends. So how can he go back' _
and say that everybodys the same s
according to Islam when the main
book that they read in the East
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X is a badge of honor that you receive
once you become a follower oi Honorable
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD. So now that he has'
denounced it, understand that we should
breakup this calling his MALCOLM X
because he's no longer 2.,
Well, I'm glad we should, I'm glad we
can resolve this whole problem with
one little statement by you and
forget about the religion.
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Yes, I'd like to say something
on that -
- get some contradictory
expressed here?viewpoints
One, as a result oi HALCOLI's
death. The press has used his
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Ir. MUHAMMAD. You know,
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they have permitted this thing -
to go on because they hope to pro-
mote some type or conspiracy
in an effort to see that Ire
MUHAMMAD is killed.
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JOHN: Ie11, like I say anyone doing
this is meeting their own certain
doom. ,= '
KUP: who wants to?
JOHN: Anyone. I say white America is,
doing this because they have
never yet permitted anyone to go
on TV or radio and make threats' '
and against a man's life. I mean,
like here this is a legal matter.
But they have permitted this thing '
to go on in the case of Mr. MUHAMMAD.
And he is not afraid and neither are
his £o11owers'aIraid._ And he stated ,
yesterday at the Co1iseum_that anyone
that is going against him;'I mean,
they is playing with their;'I mean,
their own doom. And they're using this
incident of MA1COLH's death in an effort
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Nobody said he is guilty. They Just
arrested him on charges.
I'd say this is so. ilhich I don't
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I'm saying that they have never yet
permitted anyone to go on TV and
give a man nationwide cover, week
after - day after day, and let the
world know that he is coming after
Ir. MUHAMMAD, This is unprecedented
And this shows the hypocrisy of the
authorities themselves -
Ihy do you think the authorities
are surrounding the Coliseum, it
not to protect ELIJAH IUHAIIAD?
Why are they - . They're not trying
to protect Ir. MUHAMMAD. Yesterday
they offered their protection to
him. But they won't even get their
plice guard in front of his car
going to the Coliseum. They put
the car, the police guard, in back
of his convoy and stopped at every
red light and so in case someone is
after him they can get him and say
they hope they got him.
Now, JOHN, you know that's ridiculous
charges. The police -
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ELIJAH MUHAMMAD from any possible
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way.
You know that they're taken every
precaution possible. ~
They're not doing their Job the
right way; It they were doing it the
right way, they would do it the
right way. I neon, we know something
true about how to protect a nan and-
Ir; IUHAIIAD is well protected.
And we're not asking for police
protection. They're doing this on
their own. But they're doing a
Job which -- - '
Now you're making a contradiction.
They're only making a show oi it.
First of all you say the police are
doing it on their own. Why are they
expending over 100 men or more to
protect - '
This is their duty. - t H
If they're doing it on their own -
Ie're citizens, too. Like the man
says, we pay taxes like anyone else.
We're a member oi society. Ie're
entitled to +~- *
You certainly are. That's what
the police are doing.- - __ _
And Ir. IUHAIMAD'says it the police
couldn't stop it, we'll stop it. u
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around and make threats at us, which
they are doing ». ,
Iell, you can't stop a person iron
making a threat. You can arrest
Ill II IOU ClH_I1HG B1. _
Oh yes, you can. You don't give
then publicity. You don't put then
on your TV show and make threats.
You don't -
They'd like to find then. Ihy do
you think they're searching th
highways for =
You let a person cone on your show
and make a threat?
Nor
Ir. KUP, I lean, no, let's not
be naive now. ' _
Iho aade the threat? .
I mean, they had people making threats.
LEON AMEBCE phonetic! and other -
people saying they are going to ' "
threaten Hr. IUHAMlAD'e lite. I mean,
this is something they want to promote
in this country. We know this. -. ' . _ _ _
GORDON, you wanted to get a word
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We hear a lot oi words but very little
real hard information. To begin -1'
with, the courts have already convibtedin Massachusetts, KUP, a number oi ' a
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simply leit not to tell their
stones. AUBREY BARNETT! wasn't able
to tell a story to the Saturda;.-- »Tm"
Evening Post until after he was beaten
viciously. There are hospital records
and there are court records and there
are hard convictions. Now these are
tacts. These are actual members oi
the Iuslim temple in Boston and
elsewhere ene have been convicted in
the courts oi the United States. And
let's wait just a little bit longer
about the shooting of MALCOLM and you
will probably see that RONALD BUTLER
is indeed an active member of the-
Iuslim movement in the New York area.-
And the courts, and the courts oi
the United States will decide these
matters regardless of all of this
glossing over to decide, what thin;
weFre talking about today. '
But you did say in a press conference,
JOHH, that yen did net knee er any
BUTLERs who was a member. Did you
make that statement?- 1
I didn't know oi any. - didn't know
any of them. Outside of knowing"
him as a member. I say we're making
an investigation - - . . .
Bnt the police oi He! lorh said he
was. For what reason -
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us of 108 charges against us. But
the court proves this is wrong. And
they arrested Ir. MUHAMMAD. He
served five years in a Federal .
penitentiary for nothing. Because he
practiced the religion cf Islam. I
mean, this doesn't make it right,
because the police does it. They
do a lot of things which are wrong
in this country. This is one-of the
reasons why Ir. IUHAIIAD is in this
country - to get our people free so
they won't meet the doom that is
coming from those who desire to do-
wrong. And for any white man to
promote, to try. I mean, our people
are well aware now of any white man
taking a great interest in the Muslim.
movement. I mean, why are you-trying
to be a benefactor to certain Negroes.
I mean, at this late day and time?
I mean, why are you so much concerned"
with it? This is not your religion.
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You say you are Unitarians. if you*re-
Unitarians, you should be concerned
with your own religion. And practice
it. I mean, it's not your prerogative
JOB, do you admit though, if a-- ~1~-
religion is a fraud - I: not -.-¢- -
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I'd like to arrange a debate and
discuss the whole thing, everything,
the religion -
Ie say you are not with the truth.
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years, - I mean,has gone out 34
there, you all -
try to promote other people to attach
him and to oppose him. I mean, this,
is written. In the Bible is one -
He is getting oi! the track here. .
You're getting oi! the track because
you tried to deny the fact that
Ir. MUHAMMAD is a divine man and
you try to mislead people into thinking
that this is some type o£"religion~ -
that he concocted himself, that he
is self-sent. He isn't from himseli
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outstanding thing that white people-
concpntrate on, harp on, is to ~
keep our people from following 1 - -
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The reason I say the Iuslims are-
a fraud, JOB, is because there are
so many contradictions between what
the Muslims say they stand for and
what they actually stand tor. ~
Iell, you haven't named one yet.
Let hi: finish; JQHE.
Okay. Next, starting we'll take -
"Muhammad Speaks" newspaper. The
first thing that you say is we want
freedom. We want full and complete
freedom. But do they give freedom
to their members? No. :The members '
in the organization of, in the Nation
of Islam, live a completely dominated
restricted and confined life.- They
are forbidden to participate in
society in any way. .;
I beg your pardon. Do you read the
Holy Koran? The Holy Koran says
there is no compulsion to religion.
So evidently you don't even practice
religion.
Joan, 5.. seqonu. Let nih finish.
You're not-following the Koran. That
what I'm saying, You say one thing
and give the members another thingaia.
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The members have to give up all their"
freedoms. Their freedom of assoeiati
Their freedom of speech. A Iuslim
member can't come out here and give
his opinion of what he thinks is the
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don't understand the organization.
You don't have freedom of speech.
You don't have freedom of association.
A Iuslin member can't, he is
forbidden to attend a Christian
funeral or a Christian wedding or
anything like that. and he's completely
controlled.. '- Y _"
Well, I'd like to say. Let me say.
I'd like to answer your question - . a
So the Muslim members are not free.
I'd like to answer. You don't '
understand the organization. One,
if you understand Islam, I mean,
all members, all religions teach"
members ~. Even the Catholic Church »
teaches their members not to-consort
with non-members. I mean this is
prevailing in any religion.
_jhere_is a contradiction again:
--not to consort with non-Catholics.
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non~Catholics except with the special
dispensation of the Pope. Or the
church - - " -
You don't know what you're talking s
about. ~
But they aren't taught to go to.other.
churches and things. They aren't. - -
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Ir. HUHAHAD says even the Holy Koran
siy do not take Jews or Christians
for friends.
Ie have to interrupt here. Pardon
me. We have to interrupt here for.._
a message and we'll be right back.
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you wanted to get a word in.
I sure do. I'd like to say something
just briefly about this whole
question of freedom of religion in
the United States, ELIJAH LWHADBIAD
obviously, KUP, has the right to set
up any kind of a sect that he wants
and since hes being so amply
protected today this means'that we i
believe in this in this country and
we allow his to practice. But _ l
freedom of religion does not
because he claims that he ismean that
sacred
or divine that I have to accept it,
I an free to disbelieve in ELIJAH - -
IUHAMHAD and I most certainly do. K015
many years ago Father bivine
along and told his followers
sense do I equate by the way
Divine with ELIJAH MUHAMMAD.
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indeed. But Father Divine told
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and I was in Philadelphia and
New York and laid he was not, and
he was going to die some day. And
I was considered extreme and I .
meddleseee shite sen and =11 the rest
for saying it. Well, 10 and behold,
Fathr Divine is dead and he wasn't
immortal and I wasn't incorrect nor
disrespectful to suggest that maybe
he thought he was immortal. But
time is going to catch up with him,
too.
Hell, Id like to ssy this, tee. .
Ir. MUHAMMAD did not set this
religion up. This is where you make F
your error. Or you don't make an
error. I'd say you deliberately twist
the facts in saying that he set it O
up. He did not set it up. Islal
is the religion of God, and Ir.
MUHAMMAD is the Messenger of God. And
when you refer to !r. EUHAEEAQ er
Ir. DIVINE as a kettle of fish, I
mean, I wish you would use the same
terminology in referring to the Pope
or to the Rabbi or the members of your
church¢' I mean this is not -
I'd be happy to. The Pope and the
Unitarian Church are two different
kettle ei fish, tee. e-e I
This is not being respectful. Font-
you to use such shallow terns ieinot
proper. I mean, let's be courteous
anyway._ - '
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white devil all the time. That's very
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we were not.
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- doesn't and KUP doesn't.
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answered us thousands of times
through the white press, through~ .
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and says on their radio that God
told him that the white race is the
race of the devils and if you're
not, this is your argument with God.
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Boston as did GORDON and they want
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time for the last hour or so. He's
been going around the world, back
again and haci into the century.AUBREY:
JOHN: That is what we call a universe.
AUBREY: He has discussed today the Ihslin
program. Are they a fraud or aren't
they a iraud?- Now, on the back of
every edition o£_"Iuhannad Speaks
newspaper they list what the Iuslins
want. and what they want and what
they actually get, what they stand tor
are two different things._ They say
they want Justice. How a few minutes
ago JOH talked on the program in
reference to, about a person being
a Iuslin. He said that in this
country at least a person is considered
not guilty until proven guilty. That
is correct in this country_hut not .
in the Muslin movement is the numerous
trials they have there. They have
trials of the members who have broken
such laws as going to the theater or
going to a sporting event or such-things
as that. They have these trials
KUP: Pardon me Just a second, you said,- -
going to a sporting event?
Oh yes, this will be the first time
in the AUBREY:
KUP: They had one today at an earlier
tine. H _ '
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A is toiling a natural lie, Id like to -
interrupt. Because one, we have all n
types. Ir. MUHAMMAD does not encourage
going to sporting events where they
have gaming and gambling of that nature
but we have many different types of ~
athletic participation.We have basket-
. ball. We have -
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GORDON: - intramural sports. '
JOHN: - and all of this nature. I mean, - -
KUP: A11 right, JOB. Let AUBREY tinisb.
You were forbidden, JOHN, to attend
in the luslin organization -AUBREY:
JOHN: I beg your pardon.
any sporting event where anyone
else attends, where the general
public attends. You are forbidden
to do this -AUBREY:
I beg your pardon. I beg your
pardon. You are not telling the
truth.
Of course, there are big guys and
little yous in the organization.
There are big guysad -AUBREY:
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KUP: Let him finish, JOHN.
You have a law in your orgnizations
that you cannot associate with non-
members or members who are out.
Why don't CASSIUS CLAY get put out
when he was associated with HALCOLE
when HALCOLI was out?AUBREY:
Well, like any group, they have
religious ruling. I'd like to
explain this. Like I say, you
don't understand our organizatkwn.JOHN:
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because that organization -
Please, Ir. KUP. I gave you courtesy
to finish. '
- what it is publicly against.
You don't understand our organization.
I mean, like you said; restriction.
I lean Islam does not, Islam takes
restrictions er! our people. this
is one of the 1e asons why Ir. IUHAIIIAD
is offering to us
That's not right.
Please, please let's be polite now.
You are asking tor politeness.
Ir. IUHAHHAD -
In asking for politeness. I! asking
for the answer to the question.
This is one of the reasons why he
is offering Islam to our people
because it relieves restrictions
from us. It gives us a wider,
broader friendship. It is like our
friends go beyond America, throughout
the world, and we are not restricted.
In fact, we can do more things than -
ever. I mean, you talk about bing
restricted to evil things. Yes, e
I mean this is Ir. IUHAMHAD's program
to get our people to reirainiron evil
habits - V
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or participating in evil environment,
things which will make then sick
and not according to their own.
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tries to speak!.
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to the religion of Islam is because
in Boston, Boston is noted for i ,
gret integrated, nixed society
where they have many nixed marriages
and mixed religions going on.
That's got nothing to do with it.
I don't have s nixed marriage. 7
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This is one of the things that you
are noted tor. Because you have ~
a wife and everything and you have -
I have s eiie who use s Bless luslin
member just as I was. ' i
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white woman and you object to
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oi your tricks.JOB:
AUBREY: That is certainly a lie.
JOHN: - and Boston is noted for that.
It is noted tor - 'AUBREY:
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Mr. HUHAEIAD has established Islaa
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slander because I will certanly
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JOHN: Go right ahead. Go right ahead
' because this is well known._
AUBREY: The man -
KUP: Hbld it Just_a minute. Dr. LINCGHH -
LINCOLN: I was just wondering it we could
re-establish our grounds so we can_
hear one man at a time.
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charges.
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Right. And let me quote something
which IALLACB HUHAHIAD said. It
was published in the newspaper.
You can quarrel with then if you
want to. I understand he attended
the meeting. The main laws of the
organization are to retrain from
adultery, tornication,. smoking,
drinking, lying and stealimg. The
members of my father: stat! are guilty
or some or all or these evils. There
have been beatings, lies and hypocrisy.
They have written, they have presented,
my father as a holy image and misused .
thousands of dollars. So there are
laws and restrictions but they don't
apply to anyone. They only apply to
the smell members, the members who
don't reach the high echelon. How
another thing they see in "Huhammad
Speaks" newspaper is we want equality
of Qfiiif." There is he equality
of opportunity in Iuhammads Mosque,
there is favoritism. There is nepotism
practiced in the organization and there
is favoritism. Only_a few people ever
benefit from being in the organizattn.
They also say we want justice, but they
don't give Justice to the members.
Anyone who would dare plead not guilty
to a charge, he is charged with heihg
beat up and run out of town as was
JAHE3 53, 6X in Boston, who not only
am he put out ct the organization
but beat up and run out of town
because he said he wasn't guilty oi
the charges. .
You said in this article, AUBREY} that
you lost i iot of honey es a reehlt
oi your membership. Ihat did you mean
by that, that you were practically
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and every week. It's not a donation
because if you don°t-donate it, they'll
bring you up in front oi the temple,
in front of all the people, embarrass
you, ask you why you couldn't do
better and they also have entorcers
to make sure that you donate this
money. - -
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arm group within the Nation 01'
Islam, yithin the POI, which wou1d'"
make sure thn; these men" who fall
behind in their payments come up I
to par and donate thb money which
they say is charity but charityef
is something that is supposed to be
given freely.
I'd like to say something about this.
But donations, in the Nation oi Islam
are not given freely. It is something
that is coerced.
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Nell, anyone that belong to any
religion is required to give.
That's right. '
And this is in Islam. In tact,
one oi the pinciplee - you cant
be a Huslim unless you give. -
Right again. - ' '
And what we have, we have duties and
we have obligations. We have certain
obligations which we must meet and
those who follow th program they
do it. And those who don't follow -
we don't require it, Ir. KUP, _ 1-
hecause they're not a Iuslip. So
we don't expect it of you, but- _
those who say they're with us Hu
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Nell. thst's your, if yo can
follow the principle you may be
a Muslim. we don't object to 1:.
But you won't be able to get him
in ELIJAH lUHA!iAD's temple as a
Muslin. ' . -
Please now, the ground rules have
been established. But anyone who
belongs to any religion - Judaisn .;or Catholicism or Protestantism ' '
or Unitarianism, they have offerings,
I think, this is their-purpose and
in Islam We do it. In as broad
- a sense we give. _ _ _ _A;1 - . y . ._ _' 1-. I.-
you missed the point, JOHN, :nag_<;§
there is hysical violence ii yod.f
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Ho. This is not true. Becsumi there
is no compulsion and anyone, any
group, certainly they are required to
give. But no one is compelled to
give, because our people receive
benefits, in fact, for whet Ir.
IUHAIIAD has to oiier to our people
ii he esgee us to etnnd on our
heads and turn our pockets inside
out, he Ieuld not otter, he would
not be asking too Iucb. Because
be is offering everything to us.
an is of£ering,too, the reality ,
oi God and in return we have nothing
to give back. And so_anyone that"
would object to this, we don't want
the; rite use !e ash then to 1enve=
Let Dr, LINCOEN get in - .
Before Dr. LINCOLN gets in, I'd
Just like to make a cement on his
book, Dr. LINCOUN's book. He '
Irate a book some years ago
about the Black Muslin organization
end this is another one ct the
restrictions in the Nation oi Islam.
The Ration; rank and file members
were forbidden to read that book and
forbidden to purchase it. _p
I beg your pardon. Because the
rank and file - anyone any buj
the book. The book's on'the _ o
snewsstnnd. They're not iorbidden
to "* -
-QAli they are caught buying oru_ '
Iading it - I . "_f
_,ln fact, this Dr. LINCOLN will
teetify to_binSe1i. _f,; " up
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You ilreadi iide the point. -JOHI:
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We have the book. Ion; of the '
Ihslims have it. Let eny_ - _
Iosque have it. They reed thebook but they were not restricted,
Iron buying the book, Soneono
asked us to sell the book and '
we said no. He're not zoioi to ;
sell it. -But we have our own news.
media that we rant to sell, _ -- "Iuhannad Speaks. '
.- KUP: Br. LIHCON..
LINCOLN: I'd like to raise this question.
You said 1 Io! eieutee ego that '
it you belong to Ielan you'ereexpected to honor the obligations_ .oi Islam, in this cage, was to give.It you don't give, are there any .-
reetriiions that keep you in the
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lany different problems. we have women,vidows and things that we help out
ourse1vee.. And in Islam in order
to be a Iualin, every Buslin given.
This is one oi the principles. Oneot the rive principles. Charity inas broad e sense. This is one" '~ -}-
01 the outstanding things about i "" ~
Isle: is that the people give and this
is one ot.the reasons why Ir. IUHAH!AD'e
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teachings in America is so outstanding
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strength oi his own rollovers, isn't
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the strength oi the people who have
iaith in his ad God.-
You ssy it is.not tax supported?
You mean you don't take religious.
tax deductions to which you're
entitled? - < - : @ e
Io. I'd say'that Ie're not, we don't
get any.tax.' Like we have a school-
operating; operating noI»- 0ur=
children are not even permitted to
ride the CIA bus st n'reduced
school rate even though we are -
supporting a school here. These
same little - g
But you do take your tax deduction ~
that you are entit1ed_to tor
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people that are, that-you ca1l" *-
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children are not pernitted~to"rtd¬'*
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pass. And'the same thing about the .
tax deduction; The United Statesi J-
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our members tron taking tax deduetbns
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found the real God, the only God,'
Allah, are investigated and brought
before courts oi the goverment
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Just I point. Dr. LINCOLN, do 16%regard this last torrent oi Ierdi s
as an answer to the question that
you raised? " E
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lake it-brie! there, gentleuen;'
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can't give - that is up to then.-
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no one is iorced to give sndt - ~
Ir. IUHAIHAD tells us_this and ';
teaches us this. A_persen is[l1,.
required to give 11 they;sre* =¥g't financially or physically able. "
J1 § Uut»i1 they don't, they are still Qrequired to have the desire to give; -
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answer to the question you asked .
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Iell, that! the point. Is said
that they require thes to leave
it they're not rilliog to carry
out the requirements of the religion.
That answers my question. I question
really was, is, does a seaber have
the liberty to leave it he rants to?
Certainly. Any tine. I lean, any
time anyone is dissatisiied with the
teachings of Ir. IUHAIIAD, they are
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then to go.-- '
loll. these are the results.
Anyone who disagrees -
A person is beat up e.' .'- . r
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All right, JQHH. You answered. Go '
ahead, AUBREY ' _ .
ll lusliss convicted oi assaulting
a former member. 4 Huslims accused
oi assau1t._ 4 Iuslims face court" U
in beating up five ex-membersk This
is the result or having leit. It
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and listen Q a person who has left
the or aniza ion be kept gettinga
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talked about as the hypocrite, the
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is spent tea hing against ex-nenbers
than is spent teaching about your
so-called en sy and before you
mention about helping widoIs.. This
is another contradiction oi the
Muslin program. and this is something
I know very, 1's very taniliar iith
because this is something I was ver_
upset about in the Ration oi Islan.
E, the late IALLACI y cousin, IALLAC
STOKES, was killed in California,
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death by_a Black Iuslis sinister.
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say they're supported, they're1~
lookirgg out for one another,1f
But yet when HhLLACE_STO$E3 was
killed, no support was given to ;
the support or his child. His?
_<_=n11c had.to- live in the home oi
my aunt, who is a Christian, for-
one year. Hot a Muslin tronh41;~
Boston came to visit that child.'
Hot a Iuslin iron Boston cane to
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donate any noney to that child's
upkeep. I Christian aunt, who had
been condemned by the Black Iusliaa,
had to support_that child, --m
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This was done, because her, the,
child's nether, had ottered to",-
do that because she is going. -
to school and had a Job and §';,V. , ,
she got remarried and she wanted
her child to live with -. So I,ywhy don't you tell the trutb7= " 3
I .en " I l f . 5' 1--
The child's mother was still a_ g
Iuslin -on y _ -1;. ..
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The child's nether was still_a __;
Iuslin and is still a Iuslin *
today and that don't stop you
iron supporting that child in
any way. - -m I. _ __- . V
Like any child,¢ Any one knows the .
laws in the country, Evidently _
you're unacquainted with the_law.I ,¢ - . _. .
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The child! nether is responsible -?*. . - . .. -. ' .' _' ; -I - - - Ht T .... 9 ,It she desired thaththe'chi£&;;~ 4 '
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SAC, DETROIT 00-21719! RUC! £7
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Re New York letter to Bureau, dated 3/10/65.
Photograph oi Nation of Islam ards at the
Philadelphia Arena Philadel hia
exhib an 0
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to them, and they were unable to ident tograph,
marked #2, as TALLIAGE HAYER.
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DIRECTGI, FBI 00-399321!
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suascr MALCOLM K. LITTER an; :*L INFORFATION QONTQINEDIS - MMI " ' " "1" EL-1 :Ze2E_KL Y
Reliteletwpe 3 5 65 ca u a "nonmn nowmn uommons, aka, su moi // ' p one
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HAYER and JOHNSON have been indiote or th
MALCOLM X on 2 21 at New York city
511--"Peat of the in the homicide of
is considered o the Nation of Islam N01! "str
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Haven and New York for completion or their tiles. .-.
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to the fact that he was willing to appear at New Haven
to answer charges brought against his if the FBI rsquastede-
him to do so. It was pointed.out to him that whethe!or"
not he appeared in New Haven in this matter is a decision
that was entirely his own to make, that whether or not"
his testimony would be of benefit to the FBI was subject
to question, but that any assistance he voluntarily
gave the FBI in this or any other matter would be
appreciated.
It appeared at the completion of the interview that
he would not voluntarily appear as a witness or suxrender
himself to answer charges.
gives the impression that he likes to think
of himse f and picture himself to others as a figure
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,0a co m X Little in New York City. He claims that
on his arrival in New York Cit he w -'ken intoivprotective custody by the
-and was allowed to at-rend the funeral .-subeecuent5!! !he funeral, he went'to a friend's home for the evening
and then returned to Boston, Massachusetts.
while at the funeral, he chattered with former members
of the Newark Nation of Islam MOI! Temple whom he
recognized from havin hei cont: wit .em uh evisiting that;¬" stated, however, that he .oes ma, snow ' em y name.
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the person who hendisi the shnigun as 2 tell, dark skinned
Temple, but when he did nNegro whom.he rscngnizei es s member or the e k
ct know by rams. believes
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the Negro who handles Phi shotgun as a lieutenant
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On guard at the rostrum at which Malcolm X was speaking
were Robert 352, formerly of the New York Temple, and
Charles 26X, formerly of the Newark Temple.
when the distraction was created Just before
alcom X was shot, both of these gua ' theimmediate area or the rostrum which s
in violation of all the rules of stat ing pas
both in the Muslim Temples and in Malcolm Little's
organization.
This fact made the esons participating in the
discussion convinced that the shocting '
was a cons P in which the two guards participated.
has he factual knowledge about suchd - !ra_ E the ,hocti ' urred r who d a consp cy, cw s ng occ o
participated in it. The man who started the distraction
ming someone's hand was in his pocket was described
as a short, dark skinned Negro with bushy hairlianustache, who was believed to be a member or the
Newark Temple,
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lasted him to call
identiri zlf as a representative
Labor Mcvement'in rhe greater Boston area and c
he had the respoha;iLlity of the distribution of "
the Progressive Iatav mrvement publication "Challenge"
in this area.
that'he wcuia-.1 .'-ike his to Join
the Progressive -or Movement at" help organize
it in the greater Bcsrnn ar»- stated that -i"
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assume some of the responsibiliti
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in the Organization o: A£ro~Ams:ioan Unity ossU}
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namely, that no one was present at the time of death,
and the cause of death was unknewn, and the'victim
had been subject to violence in the recent past,iiIhe
body was removed to the Southern Mortuary, Boston,
Massachusetts for an autopsy.
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claimed that he had two suidocuments whichipt in New Haven.' H
t-that 1: would drive him to New
to'Ta1?TF'up the suitcases, he would arrange
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paesessed any documents of value," '
t the trip would be well worth it if
he actually had such materiel. Fgng the_tone of
cwereatior-., fe1t he intenoe- "o try o se. to
ratner than g,.i.ve it to him.
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are contained in the ap;end1x Logr attached hereto.
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APPENDIX
NATION OF ISLAM, formerly
referred to as the Muslim
Cult of Islam, also known Elv-
Muhammad's Temples of_Islam.-- P'§ ;.rm4:; »~-» - ~:_
In January, 1957, a source advised Elijah Muhammad
has described his organization on a nationwide basis as the
"Nation of Islam, " NOI! and "Muhammad's Temples of Islam."
On May B, 196R, a second source advised Elijah
Muhammad is the national leader of the NOI; Muhammad's Temple
of Islam No. 2, 5335 South Greenwood Avenue, Chicago, Illinois,
is the national headquarters of the NOI; and in mid-1960,
Muhammad and other NOI officials, when referring to Muhammad's
organization on a nationwide basis, commenced using either
"Mosque" or "Temple" when mentioning one of "Muhammad's
Temples of Islam.""
The NOI is an all-Negro organization which was
originally organized in 1930 in Detroit, Michigan. Muhammad
claims to have been selected by Allah, the Supreme Being, to
lead the so-called Negro race out of slavery in the wilderness
of North America by establishing an independent black nation
in the United States, Members following Muhammad's teachings
and his interpretation of the "Kbran" believe there is no
such thing as a Negro; that the so-called Negroes are slaves
of the white race, referred to as "white devils," in the
United States; and that the white race, because of its
exploitation of the so-called Negroes, must and will be
destroyed in the approaching "War of Armageddon."
In the past, officials and members
including Muhammad, have refused to register
provisions of the Selective Service Acts and
that members owe no allegiance to the United
5of the NOI,
under the
have declared
States.
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NATION OF ISLAM, formerly
referred to as the Muslim W
Cult or Islam, also known as
Muhammad's Temples of Is1sm_ Cont.!
On May 5, 1958, the first source advised Muhammad
had, upon advice of legal counsel, tempered his personal
statements and instructions to his ministers concerning the
principles of his organization in order to avoid possible
prosecution by the United States Government; however, he did
not indicate any fundamental changes in the teachings of his
organization.
On May 7, 196R, a third source advised Muhammad
had, early in July, 1958, decided to dc-emphasize the
religious aspects of the teachings of Islam and to stress
the economic benefits to be derived by those Negroes who
joined the NOI, This policy change, according to Muhammad,
would help him acquire additional followers and create more
interest in his programs.
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On June 28, 19618, MAMOLM X LITTLE, founder
leader of the Muslim Mosque, Incorporated MME!, pub1ic£f@
announced the formation of a new, all Negro, militant civil
rights action group to be known as the Organization of Afro-
American Unity OAAU!, with himself as Chairman. This
announcement was made at a public rally held by the MMI in
the Audubon Ballroom, Broadway and 166th Street, New York
City.
A printed and published statement of basic OAAU
aims read by MALCOLM X at this meeting indicates that it
shall include "alf people of African descent in the Western
Hemisphere, as well as "our" brothers and sisters on the
African continent. It is patterned after the "letter and
spirit" of the Organization of African Unity established
by African heads of States! at Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, in
may, 1963.
A recording of the remarks of MALCOLM X at this
meeting indicates that the aim of the OAAU is to eliminate
differences between Negroes so they can work together for
"human rights," while the initial objective is to
"internationalize" the American civil rights movement by
taking it to the United Nations. LITTLE condemned the non-
violent civil rights movement and claims that Negroes should
be taught to protect themselves, when and if necessary.
The OAAU will sponsor a program for Negroes of education,
politics, culture, economics and social reform. '
On August 19, 1964, a confidential source advised
that the headquarters of the OAAU are located in MMI head-
quarters, Suite 128, Hotel Theresa, 2090 7th Avenue, New York
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A source advised on July 2, 1962, that Progressive
Labor groups held a conference in New York City on July 1,
1962, where MILTON ROSEN acted as chairman. He read a .*~
statement at this conference setting forth their intention
to form a new Marxist-Leniniet party in the United States.'
ROSEN stated that a more formal organization was necessary,
one which would provide a framework for all who wanted to
Join in a united effort to build an American vanguard. The
forces of this new organization are to consolidate all
existing forces around Progressive Labor and organize
additional forces; expand and improve political activities;
win additional forces to an outlook of Marxism-Leninism and
increase the open advocacy of socialism; develop a significant
Marxist-Leninist program for the new party; and organize a
collective organization of leaders and members.
"The Worker," an east coast communist
newspaper, issue of January T, 1962,
Page Ten, Column Three, reported the
expulsion of MILTON ROSEN, former Labor
Secretary of the New York State Communist
Party, from the Communist Party, United
States of America.
A second and third source advised in February, 1963
that this new Marxist-Leninist party had not yet been organised
on a formal basis, but that Progressive Labor groups had been
formed in several localities in line with the proposals of
MILTON ROSEN. The sources advised as of February, 1963,
that the leaders of this group were referring to it as
the Progressive Labor Movement.
A fourth source advised on March 15, l96#, that
the Progressive Labor Movement follows, supports, and is
politically orientated toward the Communist Party line of
Red China rather than that of the Soviet Union.
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at the Audubon Ballroom, New York, New York. -
The larch 31, 1965 edition of the "Chicago
Sun-Times", a Chicago, Illinois daily newspaper, page 48
under the caption,"Kup's Column" contained, among other
items, in substa ce the iollowing information: _
Ossi vie, a big name Broadway actor, will be
in Chicago on Sunday, April 4, 1965 to address
the "Educational Fund for Children of llalcolm X", to be
held that afternoon at the Tabernacle Baptist Church.
The 1964-65 Illinois Bell Telephone Directory -
lists the Tabernacle Baptist Church as being located at
4130 South Indiana Avenue. . '
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APPENDIXII reggae, ircoaroarree gall] ""-~ ,__ »The larch 13, 1964, edition oi "The lee York Times," aly newspaper published in lee York, New York, contaieedia ".icle on page 20 which indicated that IALCOLI X LrTTLI!,loraerr zional oiiicial oi the Nation oi lalae K01! who broke with theI on Iarch, 1964, publicly announced in new York City_on larch,, 1964, that he bad torned the Iuslis Iosque, Incorporated III! ae II, according to the article, would be a broadly based clitically oriented black nationalist movement for Negroes only,inanced by voluntary contributions. In this public statementIALCOLI X urged Negroes to abandon the doctrine oi non-violenceIhen it is necessary to deiend themselves in the civil rights struggle, and he also suggested that degrees torn riile clubs toprotect their lives and property in time-oi emergencies in arealwhere the government is unable or unwilling to protect then.Incorporation papers oi the ll tiled on larch 16, 1964,with the Business Section, Clerk oi Courts, New York Oounty,HeIYork, New York, reilect that the Ill was incorporated under the Religious Corporation Law oi the State oi Kev York to work iorthe imparting oi the Islamic Faith and Islamic Religion in ' accordance with "accepted Islamic principles." The principal Oplace oi worship to be located in the Borough oi Ianhattan, new York, New York. . - _ -The lay 23, 1964, edition oi the "Nev York AmsterdamHews," a weekly negro newspaper published in New York Cit; conetained an article by columnist JAMES BOOKER in which he indicatedthat he had heard that the visit by IALCOLI I with Muslim leaders during his Atrican tour has changed him to become soit in hisanti-white ieelings and to becoe more religious.On October 6, 1964, a coniidential source advised thatthe Ill is apparently affiliated with the true orthodox Islamic Religion through its aiiiliation with the Islamic Foundation oiNew York!, 1 Riverside Drive, New York City. the only teachingsoi the HM! are on the Islamic Religion. H»A second coniidential source advised on October 20,1964, that the headquarters oi the Ill are located in Suite 126,Hotel Theresa, 2090 Seventh Avenue, Nev York, New Yong wherethey were established on larch 16, 1964. These headquarters are _shared with the Organization oi Airo-American Unity OAAU! which]is also headed by IALCOLI X. . 92
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announced the iormation oi a new, all Iegre, militant ciril~
rights action group to be known as the Organization oi Atroe ~
Anericnn Unity OAAU!, with hinselt as Chairman. This announce-
ment was made at a public rally held by the III in the Audubon
Ballrooa, Broadway and 166th Street, New York City.
A printed and published statement of basic OAAU aims
read by iALCOhi X at this msetini indicates that it shall' ~
include "all" people of African descent in the Iestern Hemi-
sphere, as well as_"our" brothers and sisters on the Atrican
continent. It is patterned after the "letter and spirit" of "
the Qrganization ct Atrican Unity established by Atrican heads
oi States! at Addie Ababa, Ethiopia, in lay, 1963. '
A recording of the remarks oi IALCOLI I at this
meeting indicates that the aim oi the OAAU is to eliminate
diiterences between Negroes so they can worh together for
"human rights," while the initial objective is to "inter-
nationalize" the American civil rights movement by taking it
to the United Nations. LITTLE condemned the non-violent civil
rights movement and claims that Hegrces should he taught to
protect themselves, when and it necessary. The 0AAU_Ii1l
sponsor a program tor Negroes of education, politics, culture,
economics and social rotors.
On August 19, 1964, a confidential source advised
that the headquarters of the OAAU are located in UM! head-'
quarters, Site 128, Hotel Theresa, 2090 7th Avenue, lei York
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described his organization on a natipnside basil as the "Ihtiea_,, ' -
of Islam" and "luhasunsd's Temple! Oi Isles." e : 3- _-
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Temples oi Islam." ' _ . __._
The I01 is B: all-Negro Organisation which was originallyorganized in 1930 in troit,'Iichigan. lUHAIMAD_clains to ave
been selected by Allah, the Suprsne Being, to lead the 80-called 'f 'I
iezro race out of slavery in the wilderness of iorth iserici 5- ,1 -g I
establishing an independent black nation in the United States. _ g 3'Iembers following llUHAllAD!s teachings and hi interbretattes or I -the "Koran" believe there is no such thin; as a Negro; tha the -1 1.
so-called Negroes are slaves oi the white race, referred to as .;~, J"white devils, in the United Btateai and that the shite race, -
because oi its exploitation oi the so-ca led Negroes, nust and _. 4will be destroyed in the approrohipg "lay q Arnageddon." or
In the past, citicials and sesbers ct the H9I,inc1ud y
IUHAIIAD, have refused to register under the provisions of the _ 1 .
Selective Service Acts and have declared that members one no . e t ,
allegiance to the United Btates. _ _, V . ." .;ih;
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upon advice of legal counsel, tempered his personal statements ,3"
and instructions to his ministers concerninz the principles 0! 1. .
his organization in order to avoid possible prosecution by the I '|
United dtntes dovernnent; however, he did not indicate any $nndn- .- i
mental changes in the teachings of his organization. - ;l -y.
On May 7, 1964, a third source advised IUHAIIAD had, =
early in July, 1958, decided to deemphasizs the religious _ -1 '
aspects of the teachings of Ielas and to stress the econosic ' -
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Enclosed is a copy of a letter from the Director
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Department of State, with the indicated copies. This is classifieh
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their investigation or .
stated that he is trying to determine from
NY District Attorney's Office ii the NYCPD
investigation or the shooting of MALCOLM X or to preparefor trial
against TALMAGE I-LAYER, THOMAS JOHNSON and NORMAN BUTLER for themurder of MALCOLM X. H '
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b'92'D may have to testify at trial of LI'I'I'LE'S
murderers. If so, this case will be opened at that time.
In view of the above, this case is being considered
HUG in the Philadelphia office.
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Two sources advised on may 22, 196% that the organization of which
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Pa., as Muhammad's Mosque #12 MN #12!. These sources advised HM #12 was
located at L218-20 Lancaster Avenue, Philadelphia, Ps.; but, in September,
1963, moved to 220A North Broad Street, Philadelphia, Pa.
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paper published in New York, New York, contained an article on page 20
which indicated that MALCOLM I LITTLE!, former national official of the
Nation of Islam NOI! who broke with the NOI on March B, 1964, publicly
announced in New York Cit on March 12, 196A, that he had fanned the MslimMosque, Incorporated MMl§. The MMI, according to the article would be a
broadly based politically oriented black nationalist movement for Negroes
only, financed by voluntary contribaticnse In this public statement
MALCOLM X urged Negroes to abandon the doctrine of non-violence when it is
necessary'to defend themselves'in the civil rights struggle, and he also
suggested that Negroes fonn rifle clubs to protect their lives and property
in time of emergencies in areas where the government is unable or unwilling
to protect them.
Incorporation papers of the MMI filed on March 16, 196A, with the
Business Section, Clerk of Courts, New York County, New York, New York,
reflect that the MMI was incorporated under the Religious Corporation Law
of the State of New York to work for the imparting of the Islamic Faith and
Islamic Religion in accordance with "accepted Islamic principals." The
principal place of worship to be located in the Borough of Manhattan, New
York, New York.
The May 23, 196i edition of the "New York Amsterdam News," a
weekly Negro newspaper published in New York City, contained an article by
columnist JAMES BOOKER in which he indicated that he had heard that the
visit by MALCOLM I with Muslim leaders during his African tour has changed
him to become soft in his anti-white feelings and to become more religious.
On October 6, l96L e confidential source advised that the MMI is
apparently affiliated with the true orthodox Islamic Religion through it:
affiliation with the Islamic Foundation of New York!, l Riverside Drive,
New York City. The only teachings of the MME are on the Islamic Religion.
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'lkhammed$ Tsuples of Islam,"
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Chicago, 111in;is, is the national-hesdqnarters of the NOI; and in mid-1960,
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one of "Mtri:maL*s Triples oi Islam."
Ihe NOI is an a11~Negro organization which was originally organized in
193? in 0e.r=Ei, Michigan. Mohammad claims to have been selected by Allah, the
Supreme Bring, to lead the so-called Negro race out of slavery in the wilderness
of North knerica by establishing an independent black nation in the United States.
Memtcrs following Muhmnnad'$ teachings and his interpretation of the "Koren"
believe there is no such thing as a Negro; that the ao~ca1led Negroes are slaves
:5 the white race, referred to as "white devils", in the United States; and thatthe white race, because of its exploitation of the so-called Negroes, must and 92
will be destroyed in the approaching "War of Armageddon."
In the past, officials and members of the NOI, including Mohamed, have
refused to tsgieter ends: the provisions of the Selective Service Acts and have
declared that mentors owe no allegiance to the United States.
Cn May 6, 1958 the first source advised Muhammad had, upon advice of
legal counsel, tempered his personal statements and instructions to his ministers
concerning the p;in;iples of his organization in order to avoid possible prosecu-
tion by the United States Government; however, he did not indicate any fundamental
changes in the teachings of his organization. Q .
On May 7, 196k, a third source advised Muhammad had, early in Jhly,
1959, decided to dc-emphasize the religious aspects of the teachings of Islam and
to stress the economic benefits to be derived by those Negroes who Joined the
ROI. This policy change, according to Muhammad, would help him acqpire addition-
al followers and create more interest in his programs.
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Seventh Avenue, New York, New York, where they were established on March 161961;. These headquarters are shared with the Organization of Afro-American
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June 15, 1965
Title MALCOLM K. LITTLE
Character
Reference Letterhead memorandum, dated and
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