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Category . b!! " AGENCY PERSONNEL RULES AND PRACTICES
b!!-1 Internal FBI Telephone Numbers. '
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and Other Work-Related Personal Information.
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Category b!! F! . iNames and Identifying Information of Foreign Detainees who _
were Interviewed and Provided Infomiation to the FBI under
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Names and Identifying Information of Foreign Detainees who
were Interviewed and Provided Information to the FBI, the
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Precedence: Peionrrr - . Date: 09/02/2004
. To: Director's Office Attn: DD Bruce J} Gebhardt
From: ~Inspection _ -
- Office of Inspections _ _Approved By: Gebhardt Bruce J.?Q r
- ' Qaproni_Valerie E. '
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' ' COUNTERTERRORI SM DIVI S ION CTD] _
INSPECTION SPECIAL INQUIRY I
Synopsis: Request_approval to designate captioned matter as an
- Inspection Division INSD! Special Inquiry. __ - A
-_ Details: Based upon a request from 0GC,_1NSD conducted a survey i
of all Bureau personnel who had served in any capacity at GTMO
since 09/11/2001. This surveys which was disseminated via email,
" requested personnel to advise INSD if they observed any _'
aggressive mistreatment, interrogations or interview techniques
of GTMO detainees by representatives of any law enforcement,
military or_Bureau personnel which were not consistent with -. or
"Bureau guidelines. Records obtained by CTD determined there were
S32 Bureau employees or contractors who served at GTMO during '
this time frame._ The survey resulted in identifying nine
employees who observed such-treatment and they provided short t
"summaries of what they observed; There_were no documented ,
incidents involving any Bureaq personnel. These summaries were
provided to General Counsel Valerie Caproni, who requested these
nine employees be interviewed. ' . ' .
I In order to commence with the interviews, it is
requested that the Deputy Director designate and approve this
matter as an INSD Special Inquiry. .
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Re; 297-HQ~A13276669-A, 09/02/2004 _
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That the request for designation be brought to the
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Precedence: ROUTINE _ Date: 09/23/2004
To: Counterterrorism Attn- DAD T. Jw Harrington
General Counsel Attn= Valerie E. Caproni '
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INSPECTION SPECIAL INQUIRY . _
' Sknopsis: -Provide results of captioned special inquiry to the
Office of the General Counsel EOGC! for review. - _
_ Enelosure s!: .Enclosed_£or OGC and CTD are the following:
_ Copies of FD~302s reflecting-interview results of the
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Details: In July, 2004, OGC requested INSD to conduct an inquiry
into whether FBI personnel had observed any mistreatment or
aggressive behavior of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba GTMO!.
Based upon this request, on 7X09/2004, INSD sent an email.message
to all FBI personnel who had served in any capacity at GTMO since
U9/ll/2001. The email was detailed as follows: _ - '
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To: Counterterroiggm From:'_lnspection :>'
Re: 2'97-HQ-l32'?5669A, 09/2322004
' "You have been identified as having conducted an
assignment at GTMO, Cuba since 09/ll/2001. The Inspection -
Division has been tasked with contacting those employees who have
served in any capacity at GTMO and obtain information regarding
the treatment of detainees. Employees should immediately respond
to the following: " -. -
_ 1! Employees who observed aggressive treatment,
interrogations or interview techniques on GTMO detainees which
was not consistent with Bureau interview policy/guidelines,
should respond via email for the purpose of a followup interview.
- - 2} Employees who served at GTMD and observed no-' _
aggressive treatment of detainees, should respond via an-EC
documenting a negative response. The'EC should include the -
employees official Bureau name, title, and tenure of assignment
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The EC should be titled "GTMO, Counterterrorism ¬ '
Division, Inspection Special Inquiry", file number 297iHQ~
1327669-A. The EC should not be uploaded, but only serialized,
with a hard copy. _ ' ' ' _ _
CTD provided a list containing the identity of all
Bureau personnel and it was determined-493 had served in some
capacity. This list was utilized for the forwarding of the above
described email. _ -
INSD'received 434 responses from Bureau personnel.
Some non-responders included contractors no longer employed by
the FBI and employees who had since retired.y INSD received 26
positive responses from Bureau personnel. The majority of these
employees did not have knowledge of what the "approved" - -
interview/interrogation guidelines were, but wanted to ensure
INSD was aware of a possible incident of mistreatment. .It should
be noted that the 26 employees who responded did not observe any
mistreatment of detainees by FBI personnel._ Any mistreatment
observed or rumored to have occurred, was allegedly conducted by
employees of outside organizations. These 26 employees were
requested to provide a brief synopsis of what they observed in
order that OGC could make a determination of whether a follow-up
interview would.be required. The synopsis provided by each
personnel is attached to their enclosed FD302 in this-
communication. ' ' -
_ ' The synopsis of each of-the 26 incidents was provided
to GGC for review. Subsequent to the review, OGC determined that
nine of the employees would be required to.be interviewed. The
personnel are identified as follows: - - I
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The interviews of the above personnel were conducted
durinqfthe first two weehs-of_September, 2004 with the exceptionof| _'_ _ _, "L*Ii W [is currently on extended sick '
b6 '1 leave due to a medical 1 ness and was not available. It should-b7°'1 be noted thatq;:;;;::]had previously documented his concerns of
interrogation ec 1 es at GTMO and provided this documentationto OGC. h copy ofEf?i::::]s communication is attached to this
report. ' _ _
The interviews resulted in a determination that no FBI -
'personnel were involved in any mistreatment or aggressive
behavior of detainees at GTMO. All incidents observed by these
employees involved outside entities, the majority of whom could
not be identified.; None of the incidents were similar in nature
to those reported at the Abu Ghurayb Prison. Specifics.regarding_.
~each reported incident are detailed in each of the enclosed FD~ '
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INSPECTION SPECIAL INQUIRY '
Synopsis: Forward-original FD-302s and investigative notes to
the INSD rotor. ' . -
Enc1osure s!: Enclosecifor the INSD rotor are the following:
Original FD-302s and investigative notes reflecting
interview results of the below listed FBI personnel. '
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J o*-e'¢'ou'piE 5r océissiorié, i".¬nte're?.fi'inte'iieWro6ms-to nes detainee 'cihai|*iec|*|ji'arit_'l al1d'foot'3i'n1afetal1:-osit_iorij",
. -_to.lhe-oor,with no -chair, too'd, orw_a_ter.' Most'time5-ihlr had. urihated or defacated on themselves, and-had ' - -.
-' been left there'for_.1B,.24 h_ourso'r' more. On one-_occas_sion, the air conditioning-had been turned down so far at"-5
theteifhperatufewas so cold in theioom, that-the barefpoted detainee was-shaking with cold. ' When I asked-the
- MF"s what was going on, [was told that interrogators from the-day prior had ordered this treatment, -and the - .-
- detainee was otlto he moved. On ariother ocoassion. the NC had-beentunied off, making the temperature in '
the_unventi|a_ted room pro_bab|y'we|i over 1'00 degrees. "The detainee-was-almost ohconbjous on -the oor, with a
'-pile-'of hair next,to'lI1irr_|. Hehad apparently been literallyrpulling his -oiwn hair olgtth roughoutthe night. On another
. occassioo, not only was the temp'er_ature'unbearablY_hot, _butextre_r_r1e|y_io_ud tap 'rr_iusic was being played in the ;
' Ttoom, and had _ been since-.th,e_ day hefore,'with'the detainee ohaii-'iedI_hand and footin the-feta|.position on the tiie
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On a ggup'ie'E:f oooessions, I entered interview rooms toind adetaine_e chained hand and toot in a fetal positionto the floor, with no phair, food, or W8iB@ll,_,OSfllf1'lB5,t92'TBy had urinateid or defaoated on themselves, and had , _
'been left there-for 18, 24' hours or more. n one oowssion, the air conditioning had beenturfned down so far and
the temperature was so oold inthe room, thatjhe baretooted detainee was shaking with cold. When l asked the
Ml?s what was going on ,'I w s gin that interrogators from the day prior had ordered this treatment. and thedetainee was not to be mo92:%On another oocassion, the"NC had been turned off, making the l;emperature'in -the unventilated roor1].p"iot:|a well over 100 degrees._. The detainee was almost unconcious on the ith a -
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odcassion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap rnusio was being played in the - "
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I am responding to your request for feedback on aggressive treatment and improper . ' -
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aggressive, 'but"personally very upsetting, although I cant say that this treatment was perpetrated by -
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I arn responding to your request for feedback on aggressive treatment and improper . _
interview. techniques used on detainees at GTMO. I did observe treatment that was not only aggressitfe,
but personally very upsetting, although -I can't say that this treatment was perpetrated by Bureau -
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identity of the_inte:rviewing Agent and the purpose of theI interview,|'::_| provided the following.information_to thirteen
specific special inquiry questions: '
V [:|described her two month.TDY assignment at GTMO
as an interrogatorof detainees. During February and March2003, [;|wae. teamed withtwo different Naval Criminal '_'
Investiga" we Service NCIS] Agents and severaltontract
translators for detainee interviews. 92:]initially worked
with one NCIS Agent for roughly the first three weeks of her
s ent, then a second Agent the last five weeks of the TDY. _noted a slight work overlap between the two NCIS Agents
during their training -transition. The "primary questioning -
responsibility for the interro ations was alternated each 'interview between the Agents. .also. noted the interview -
_. assignment for the translators varie daily based on the spoken'language of thedetainee. ". ' ' ' -
' Shaver witnessed or was _aware of any aggressive
treatment, interrogations, or interview techniques employed on
detainees at GTMO in on istent with FBI or DOJ _ _policy/guidelinesr had no knowledge or understanding of-
Department of Defense 0 authorization for the permitted. use
h h/aggressive interrogation techniques. Furthermore, _.was- unaware of DOD authorized interview techniques.
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or other-U.S. government personnel at GTMO regarding detainee-
conditions or treatment and was unaware of any specific
allegations of misconduct or mistreatment by U.S. personnel -
alleged -by interviewees or others. |::| stated she had n_o
pictures, video, audio, notes, or other docu.mentation_whic1'1
depicted or described aggressive treatment, interrogations or '
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GTMO! ._ After being advised of the identit of the interviewingAgent and the purpose ofthe interview, ssab provided the |
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s TDY ass-i nment to GTMO'began on 09/12/2002 andn e n 1 O2. |;q]was partnered with SSE: -, also -from NCAVC, both whom providedbehavioral - _ _
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Brig to Camp Delta, at which point he was fed, and interrogated
by an interrogation team, however he failed to provide an
substantive information Later that same evening, number was
transported to Camp XRay where he was placed in a plywood ut
and interrogated by another military interrogation team until
the early morning hours of 10/04/2002 | and
observed both interrogatio adviseotthe interrogators
screamed and yelled at number during both interrogations At
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interrogation. of number advised the Koran had been .placed in front of number ' aptain _ United- -P '.
States Marine Corp, began to -interrogate the detainee. At some
point_ during the interrogation Captain|:_|squatt_ed over the. Koran, which incensed nuJnber|i___|and caused him to reach for the-Koran. Whi1e did not observe the incident, he was nearby
when it occurre , eard theyelling, -"and wentto -the hut to ---V1 learn --what -ha 'ened. |:;|was then told what'occurred_. .,' -and then re urned to_ their-quarters. On
10 05 2002, a German Shepherd was placed in front of n1:|_rnber,E
while h' dler commanded the dog to growl, bark, and show histeeth. - andt;lwere displeased with the interrogationtechniques u l ize on number |:|and decided to depart Camp X-
Ra . They were never again in the presence o number|:. :|believed the interrogation of number |concluded on
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another interrogation--when entere t e observation room.was laughing and he told and Ihe wanted to. em somehthingh | |accoman1edh . Iwhil
remained in the observation room. later told that- had taken him to an interrogation room where he-o served'
a. etainee with a full beard -whose.hea .had.been_'wrapped in ducttape. . -Shortly thereafter,|:land't| departed GTMO.
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In late./Qetober 2002, FBI Special .Agmt was observing the interrogation of a_. .
detainee when cjnfilian army contraetor,'who was in 'cha.rgeofthe- ;An'11y's ' -
interrogators, came into the obse1'yation- room _and_-esked SA: to some see something. - be -1, 3SA :1 then saw an unknown bearded, 1ong:hairet1 detainee 5.11 another inteno ation room. .b7 F3 - 1 e 3The detainee had been gagged with duet tape that covered much of his'head.. S ked 'Mr.|:|w1.1ether the detainee nee spit at the inteI_rogatoI8- IvIe._E|-leueleeeneed weed that
the detainee hat-1 been emmmg the_Kora.1'1 end£¢eu'1d not stop. Mr. did not asiivér when 'SA|:j asked howthe duct tape would befernoved -from the detainee. P -- e
_ _ . _ 92.In September or October of 2002 FBI agents :|an observed that a ' goI _ __ , _ _ _ . d . 4canine was u_sed_i'n_::m aggre_ssive_ma|_1ner to intimidate detainee _' _ ' .
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b6-1,2 .m _ .1 ' i Superuisory.Special AQent_{§§A!,,_H"j_
b7C-¥h2 EOD:| |National Center for the Analysis of Violent
Crimes NCAVC!, FBI Academy,-Quantico, Virginia, was interviewed
regarding his knowledge of any aggressive treatment,
interrogations, or interview techniques at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
[GTMD}. After being advised of the identit of the interviewingAgent and thepurpose of th_e__interview, $SA:provided the
following information in response to thirteen special inquiry bjcfiquestions:f ' b6 ].
.1. [;;;;::]s TDY assignmentto GTMO began in the middle ofSeptember - and ended in late October 2002. [:;:;;:|was _teamed with SSA|@UUUUUUUUUUUUU also-from NCAVC, o of whom '
' were responsible for providing behavioral analysis assistance to b6-4
law enforcement and military personnel conducting interrogations b 31
of detainees. While[::::::] never participated in detainee , '
interrogations, he sometimes observed them.' Also, when .'
requested, he reviewed background files of the detainees to
assist in the formation of interview strategies. - __. - . _ - O- primary point of contact was | 'a
civilian.contrac or employed by the military,-who was ' ' _
responsible for the interrogations at GTMO. [::::::]directed. b5 *1.
military reservists who conducted the'interrogations of the ' b7c '1
detainees. '_ SSA |:] advised |:1 exhibited "bizarre
behavior", meaning he displayed a range of emotions and often -
"lost it" or.became very angry when something insigniicant -
- occurred. . _ _ " .
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inconsistent with FBI or DOJ policy/guidelines'on two occasions. b5 '4
The first incident occurred with detainee number'E:]and the b7C'4
second incident occurred with an unknown detainee. '
When[:;;::] arrived at GTMO, number was incarcerated
n the Naval Bri to d he in a darkened ct 1 _ g. - b_{ 34
planned to have military personnel interrogate number for 24 b7c _L§,4
hours in an attempt to get him to cooperate. when -
objected to this technique, said the technique a_ been
approed by "the Secretary" who understood to be ' '
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since e_ ad been on a--self induced fast for a few days. Number
|:]'did eat the food, but still refused to provide any
information during his interrogation. I-le was subsequently moved -
to a plywood interrogation hut in Camp XRay. . While in Camp
XRay, numbe-r|:| was aggre-ssivel interrogated by military . b6 -1,3,4reservists at the direction of: During the b7C -1.3.4interrogation, the reservists yelled and screamedat number C]
Additionally, a German Shepard was positioned at the door of the
interrogation hut and made to growl and bark at the detainee.
At one po'nt one of the- interrogators "placed a Koran in front _of numberJ[:[while num.ber|:|was seated in a chair. "The '
- interrogator then straddled the Koran, at which 'point1_'.'he
detainee became very angry, but still refused to- provide any
information. _. . - '
- Late one evening, :witnessed a -second incidentwhich involveda detainee who had been duct taped; |;| and" - Q-were in -an observation room, located between wo '
in errogation rooms, watching militar personnel conduct an . -interrogation. At some pointyjentelted the room and toldIto come with 'him as he wanted tosh'ow him something. '' - accompanied |:|'to another observation room, located "
down the hall, where several Military Police were observin aninterrogation. when he entered the_-observation room, -
observed an unknown detainee with a full head_of hair an _a be, _
beard whose head was wrapped in duct tape in the adjacent b7C -
- interrogation room. There were two interrogators in the roomwith the detainee. :asked if the detaineehad been _
spitting at the interrogators ore:-: J. iting belli ere_nt=- behaviortoward them. |:| replied no, and then told|t:|the
detainees head had been duct taped because he would not stop
quoting the Koran. did not approve of the treatment of
the detainee and asked how he planned to remove the ducttape, but[:| never answered him. |:'then exited the
observation room and_ returned to his quar ers.
Based.--on conversations with? believed I -Department of Defense authorization for e permi e use of 1 -
harsh/aggressive interrogation techniques may have come from
Secretary Rumsfeld. On several occasions when'|:] questioned b6 -
|:| about the techniques utilized said it had been - me -. approved by "the Secretary",_ who un' erstoodto be ' I
Secretary Rumsfeld. With the excep ion of|:s comments
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'regard'in;g the Secre't'ary,':b-he-d~ no knowledge -or--~ -- - -V
understanding of Departmento efense {DOD} authorization for _ '
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tape on the unknown detainee. . _ . ' ' '
|:| had no contact with interviewees during his
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_ detainees at GTMO and had no knowledge of anyone else who was in
possession of such items. |:had no additional information
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related the aforementioned incidents t'o SAC Stephen R 1. ey.. be" _1_ 311%,: drafted an EC dated 11'/22/2002, which outlined the -We _1
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I was TDY to GTMO from the dates of dune 2, 2003 to-Juli} 17, 2004. During that time I did not observe ' 1*
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Force OSI, Naval Investigative Service and possibly e few other services although I can't recall which ' -_ . ones.__However. I do recall seeing some t_eoh_niq_ues utilized by other interrogators not associated with the FBI orthe»Ft. Belvoir interrogators. ;I-occasionally sawsleep 'depravat-ion.interviews with strobe lights, and two different P
' _ kinds of loud music. I asked the one of the interrogators what they were doing they said that i_t would take _
approximately four days to break semeene doing_an'interrogatlon 1-Ei hours on with the lights and music and tour -
hours oil. l'he sleeprdepravation and the lights and £1ItBl'I'l3lIr-tg beats of the music would wear the detainee down.. -
There was a-time period where the interrogations were obtmsive enough that the interview rooms for an entire. treilerwere not available if one of these techniques were being utilized. - . - 5-: I I 92
' I heard many rumors about thlngelthat I did not observe. 1 spoke with one intenogator not sure if military or -gf, -contractor or other! that bragged about doing a lap dance on-one Detainee ossibly 1tt:lAnother.interrogstor b 6 -_ 4{notsure if military or contractor or other! bragged .about making Detainee biisten- o sa anic blackrnetal we _4
music for hour and-hours. Then the intenogator dressed as _a Catholic "Priest and baptized the detainee in order to
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' was not familiar with DOD policy/guidance
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activity. The aggressive interviews |:]witnessed occurred at
Camp Delta in either the Yellow, Brown or Gold areas. Most _ _ _
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the detainees were switched from Meals Ready to Eat ~MREs! to
regular food because the detainees were becoming overweight due to
the calories contained in the MREs._- ' 1
- c_ould not recall any allegation of mistreatment _
brought to 1S a ention by-detainees, other than the detainees
referring to techniques employed by DOD personnel as-"games."
|:|ind.ieate<i most of the interviews conducted by the his
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interrogator did a lap dance on a detainee, that a DOD interrogator.
forced a detainee to listen to satanic black metal music for. hours,
and that a DOD interrogate: dressed as a Catholic Priest and '_ Ibaptized a detainee in order to save him. I: had no first b6 _l
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Synopsis: Response to inquiry, concerning potential knowledge '
of_mistreatment of-detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. ' __-~ -
Details: 5 Writer .coi'np1eted a 45' day Ttemporary duty assignment
TDYJ at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba GTMO!, for the tenure o May
13, 2003 through June 26, 2003.'.writer was'ta§ked as an
analyst providing'inyestigative assistance to the Military"
Liaison Unit MLUI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force JTTF!,
in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Writer did not .
observe at any time during said TDY, aggressive treatment of _' detainees and/er, witness interr0_gatioI1{s! or interview - "
techniques employed upon_GTMO detainees, which .wo.u_ld be '
considered inconsistent with existing Bnreau interview
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maltreatment of detainees, Writer does recall hearing about a
rumor, wherein a male_unsub detainee was purportedly dressed
in female clothing, make-up applied, and involuntarily given a .
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advised he was not aware of Department of Defense DOD po_1cy
regarding interrogation techniques, is not aware of any violation
of" DOD policy, and cannot identify anyone who might be aware of any
violation of DOD or FBI/DOJ interview/interrogation policy.
b6 1 AI is not. in possession of any picture-s, "video,
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treatment-, interrogations or interview techniques employed on .
detainees at'GTMO, and.is not aware of anyone else who might be in
possession of such items. . _ - - ~ -
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Military Police or other U.S. government personnel at GTMO
regarding detainees condition or treatment, and no allegations of
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Describe your role at GTMO and the approximate time frame. 1-==~'s ---. §<~' ""'1 5* F
' = s;=.:r=..n-if no -ae-~-I .
If a member of an interview team, please explain the roles of the members which
comprised your interviefs-_' teamr M.-r" c _.-i.-s--.- _ '
Describe any aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview techniques employed on
detainees at GTMQ, which you witnessed or are aware o which was-not consistent with
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What, if any, was your understanding of Department of Defense anthonzation for the '
permitted use of_11ars_i11faggressi!*e_inte1rogation tech11iques_2.»v.-pi *1-'-=__-----v-3* '6 1 0 r-W "r -
Describe how you became aware of DOD authorized techniques. .-'1/I A ;
In your opinion, was the aggressive treanneiit,-interrogations or interview techniques
employed on _de_ta.inees at'G'Ii921iQ,"§_iifliich i§vi_i1_1esse_d or are aware of, consistent or _
inconsistent Withyour understanding of DOD authorized activity? Lfinconsistent, '-
how? Identify any other indiiliduals who sviniessed this activity. 3/; A '5 _ -
Do you knoyr the identity of either the detainee or the DOD employeer/contractor, and the
approximate date the incident occurred? A--_ o - ' ' '
If you were aware of any ireatrnent, interrogation or interview teclniiques. employed at
GTMO which was inconsistent with FBUDOI policy _a_1;i DOD authorized
techniques, did-you document-or report -it~to-.ar-1yone?' if so, how and to whom did you
report your concerns? /I/B ' _ - - ' '
Please identify where the interviews occurred at GTMO which you believe may have
beenicontrary to policy or authorized techniques. ,1./.-. .-s-e - _ -
Did you have any substantive contact with Police orother government
personnel at GTTMO regarding detainees condition or treatment? -Describe. ~'92=>
Describe any allegations of misconduct or mistreatment by. U.S. personnel brought to
your attention by interviewees or others? -1-'<-M ¢~ 5-"Jain./'1'» -I-T 1; as rs-Ti .» .. Q --
Are you in possession of any pictures, video, aiidio, notes or other documentation which
depicts or describes aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview techniques
played on detainees at GTMO? Are you aware of anyone else who is in possession of
suohiterns? /vs, .»vo"~_¢----<-»'~:.. e--I~:92.-..-,_ . -
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OK, I will oonsideryou a positive response _and no need for you to do the EC. .Qnoe we-get all the responses, a
detemaination will be made as-19-wl=|o gets interviewed. -Thanks-again. _ . - I
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- Yes. There was-an incident of observation of a detaineein a stress position". ljhis was within the regs of
' military techniques buigoutside MIOG No Bureau personnel involved]. That was the lirnit of direct
obsenratioris. In témts of knowledge of mistreatment i can speak to that in great-detaii from formal
meetings which I attended and informal discussions with DoD personnel. BC _ .- ' _
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response for Buau employees. -Any observations of other agencies mistreatment of detainees?
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- that time. it seemed the Bureau's focus was identiiying any iiabiiity in the form of direct
involvement. I would be happy to sit down with -you and walltyou through what! saw as the
_ predictable onset of aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview techniques. In short,
the-Bureau personnel there had no direct particiaiionl But I think I may be able to assist in.
describing the landscape for you and giving you the details about where some things went oft
the tracks. ljust-moved to ITIC [Tyson's Corner! and am phone-less, but l_ have this e-mait
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You have been identied as having conducted an assignment at GTMO, Cuba since
- 9111101.. The inspection Division has been tasked with contacting those employees _
who have served in any oapaoltv at GTMO and obtain information regarding the -
treatment of detainees. Employees should immediately respond to the following 1
- 1! Employees who observed aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview _ '
- _ teohniques on G-{MO detainees which was not oonsistentwlth Bureau interview
policviguidelines, should respond via email for thepurpose of a foliow-up i|_'|oervie'w.
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' detainees, should respond via an EC documenting a negative response. The EC -
should include the employee's ofoial Bureau name, title. and tenure of assignment atGTMO. ' ' ' -, _ ' "
The EC shouldbetied Counterterrorism Division, GTIvlO,_inspectior1 Special _,
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interview team which consisted
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DoD, were -from Army Criminallnvestigative Division CID!, Air
Force Office of Special Investigations IOSI! and Naval CriminalInvestigative Service NCISJ According to [:l -the'EB'I SA -. usually took the lead role during detainee interviews. I-iowever, I
DoD Investigators also participated in detainee -interviews and on-
occasion took the lead. -.
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interrogations, or interview techni ques employed on detaineesat '
GTMO-inconsistent with FBI or DOJ olicy/guidelines. -- However, "
during the summer of 2002, walked into a Camp Delta i
observation room and noticed a detainee in an interview room
rubbing his leg due to possibly being placed in~a stress position.Q56 -1
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The detainee was wearin le irons andwas handonffed with cnffs b6 _'13chained to his waist advised the chains were adjusted-to b7 _1 3I force the detainee to stand in a baseball catcher position. The Cdetainee was being questioned by two military officers. | .
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A military iriterrogator arid I were interviewing a new arrival at GITMO during the__e_venintj'hours when we heard
what sounded like thunder. 'After hearing-several "thundero|aps" we steppedoutside the interview room to take a
' break and see -if the-weather had made a drastic change tromJh'e clear_si<'ies we had witnessed prior to the start
of our interview. -As we walked down the hallway of the temporary building where the interview rooms were
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.----inmate kneeling on"the»floo'r-with_- lgiaforehead on the ground, The-inmate was holding" his nose -and -crying. There
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Corpus Christi Resident'Agency CCRA _ on or about 01/22/1998,and whose telephone number is [i::::ff::::] was advised of the
identity of the interviewing Assistant Inspector AI! and thepurpose of the interview. SA,[:::::]then provided the following
information telephonically: . , - _ '
' SA.[:::::]was assigned to an interviewing team at the
detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba {GITMO!, from about
S "t mb t'l 1 t N -mb r 2002. The i te 'ewin team . ep e er un l a e ove e n rvi g _consisted of three people, including S_A Besideshimself, SA s interviewing team inc u e a contract
linguist, whom_ A believes was contracted through the .
nd an military and whose 1 en ity SA could not recall, a .
Army representative whose name SA could not recall, -"-
either. The Army representative was rom an organization .
similar to'the'Air Force's Office of Special Investi ations' 1 AFOSI!;?an'investigative entity; however, $A[::::::fcould-notrecall the.name of the organization. He was certain it was not
a'Inilitary' intelligence entity since the acti'v_itie's of his -
interviewing team, deemed by officials at GITMO.to be law»
enforcement activities, were separated from intelligence _ '
gathering"interviews that military intelligence personnel and "
representatives from other government agencies performed. For
most o._f-his stay at GITMO, sA|:] and his team performed
interviews in the morning. .The afternoons and evenings were "4
, reserved.for-interviews conducted by those who were gathering _in't.e.ll.-i.g'ence. ,-._$A|:921_}-aid not know of the specific activities
that occurred during t e afternoon and evening interviews,4- - .' ' N-ea-r the end of SA gs tour of dut at GITMO,about two to three weeks.before T anksgiving, SA£f:::;j was
partnered with a female military intelligence en iste personwhose identity SA[::::::]could not recall, but who ma have been a military-reservist since she indicated to 5A[::::::Tthat she
was_a probation officer in-Los Angeles, Californ1a.J SA.[:::::]
and the military intelligence soldier were detailed to an -
interviewing effort that focused on a recent group of detainee
arrivals at-GITMO,.These interviews, unlike those he had '
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purpose of the interviews was to-gain as much
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agencies were using female military intelligence personnel in
psychological operations-type activities a ainst the detainees.identity SA[::::;:]could not recall,' told SA[:::i::Tthat in.an effort to disrup etainees who were
praying.during interrogations, female military intelligence. '
personnel would wet their-hands then touch the_detainee's face,
causing the detainee to stop praying because he considered
himselfunclean. The person resp s'b e for law enforcement;
to SA that law enforcement; -agency personnel were not allows? pg pee this type of practicewhen interviewing detainees. SA did not witness this _
technique,or.anything-similar to it, performed on a detainee.
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end of his tour at GITMO- when he wasintelligence soldier, SA? andan evening interview of_an, raqi _
' interview, SA[::::;:Land the soldier heard banging sounds
- similar to claps o hunder, but were perplexed by the sounds
- since there had not been any indication of rain when they '
entered the interviewing facility. They_decided to exit the"
facility to investigate the
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The lack -of thunder caused him to wonder about the noises
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provided by those in the room where he found .the detainee
bleeding, apparently from the nose, SP.I:|-could not s
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that there was potential for the events'occurring in that
interview room to not fall in line with either FBI or DOJ
policy. "SA: emphasized that he did notobserve any FBI or
DOJ personnel-presentjin_the interviewing room where he observed
the bleeding detainee.
1_;- -Sh[:_|-did not know the identify of the personnel.
present ~in"the_ intervi-ewingroom where he observed the bleeding
detaihee,_or the identity of the detainee; however, SA.[:::::j
felt that determining their identities would be possible by -
quer in logs maintained by the military at GITMO. According toSlki the date, interviewing room, and the identities of
-theinterviewers and detainees for each interview were
maintai-nedby the mili.'t_ary at GITMO. SA|:|produced
302 of;his_interview of the Iraqi detainee that evening;
however, he did not maintain a copy. =an FD
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from an Army psychologist or psychiatrist who was an officer.
SA-|:|stated that this ind'vidual was a major, but that hecould not-recall his. name. SA: made a comment about whathe had observed to this person; '
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GITMO as temporary structures. The interviewing facility
used consisted of about 12 interviewing rooms on either sat
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a hallway. _There were six rooms in a row on one side of the.
hallway and six rooms on the other side. Adjacent to each room
were surveillance rooms that allowed other persons to obs GIVE '
interviews without entering an interviewing room. ?Durin the'evening when SA|:| saw the bleeding detainee, SA|t|was
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abuse at GITMO.- SA believed the detainees werewwell fed
and-provided with essential needs, such as medical treatment.
He was made aware of one detainee who received medical treatment
costing around $100,000.00 for an eye injury he sustained while
building an explosive device in Afghanistan intended for use
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12!Questions Concerning Actigities at_G_uantanamo Bay, Quba,_LGTMO1
Describe your role at GTMO and the approximate time frame.
If a member of an interview team, please explain the roles of the members which
comprised your interview team.
Describe any aggressive treatment, interrogatioris or interview techniques employed on
detainees at GTMO, which you witnessed or are aware of, which was not consistent with
FBI or DOJ policy,/guidelines?
What, if any, was your understanding of Dep artment of Defense authorigation "for the
permitted use of harshfaggressive interrogation techniques?
Describe how you became aware of DOD authorized techniques. _ ,
In your opinion, was the aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview techniques
employed on detainees at GTMO, which you witnessed or are aware of, consistent or ~
inconsistent with your understanding of DOD authorized activity? If inconsistent,
how? Identify any other individuals who witnessed this activity.
Do you know the identity of either the detainee or the DOD einployeefcontractor, and the
approximate date the incident occurred?
It you were aware of any treatment, interrogatioii or interview techniques employed at
GTMO which was inconsistent with FBUDOI policy and DOD authorized
techniques, did you document or report it to anyone? If so, how and to whom did your
report your concerns? -
Please identify where the interviews occurred at GTMO which you believe may have
been contrary to policy or authorized techniques.
Did you have any substantive contact with Military Police or other U.S. government
personnel at GTMO regarding detaj1iee's condition or treatment? Describe.
Describe any allegations of misconduct or mistreatment by US. personnel brought to
your attention by interviewees or others? '-
Are you in possession of any pictures, video, audio, notes or other documentation which
depicts or describes aggressive treatment, interrogations or interview techniques
employed on detainees at GTMO? Are you aware of anyone else who is in possession of
such items? -
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13! D0y0u have any additional infdrmation relating to the treatment of detainees at GTMO
_ whi eh should be brought fo our attention?
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./' ,. Synopsis: To provide response to eemail from steven C._
MeGraw. Inspection.Division on 0?/09/2004. . ' _
Details:_ The purpose of this electronic communication is to
provide a response to an e-mail from Steven C. McGraw. _
Inspection Division on 07/D9/2004. - J5 . I -. . i
. " Writer, Anchorage Field--Ofite Special Agent|:] be, -1
f |:] briefly visi-ted etmo in o2,-'2-»oo2- to. debrief a detainee bee -1
' as FISA case_agegt on the "Portland-7" counterterrorism- _ '-
ihqestigationg While at GIMO,1writer-observed no apparently ,
improper aggressive'treatment of detaineesme writer visited _
GTMO or a period-of approximately 3e4 days and returned_to
Portland Division, his office of assignment at the time.
Writer would add that when the detainee was brought
into the interview shack,at Camp Xray, the detainee appeared
to suffer from physical injuries to include possible broken-
fingers and injuries to his face. When writer inquired as to '
the cause of the detainee's injuries, writer learned that the '
detainee had recently exhibited noneompliance with a prison
guard,.and that the rapid reaction team was brought_in to -
bring the detainee into compliance. Writer learned.that no
Bureau employees were involved-in above incident.
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- . cu-rrentl assi ned to the Anchorage Division, office#9 h we |i '-_" i1 adv'sed of tn Off-iCiEll b2 _ e ep one n er was i e '92 b6 _ identity of the interviewing SLIPEIVLSOIY-SPEClal' Agent{SSA%andMC _ that the interview concerned" ascertaining any information- possessedpertaining to the treatment and conditions of '
d"eta-inees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba GTMO!. |:| thereafterprovided the following information: . ' '
traveled to ,GTMO_in FebruarY_2002, to debrief ab6 detainee identified as] W _ J regarding
b?C - case specific information on the*"Port land 7" Counterterrorismmo matter. Qwas not a member of any interview team. As aHF " Co-case gen of the Portland 7 case, |::|went to GTMO for
the sole purpose of conducting one interview relating to that
- case. . -' - "
. The interview was conducted in _a makeshift plywood
shack used for conducting -interviews, located adjacent to the '
"Dog Cages" in Cam X-Ray. When the detainee was brought in -for| - - the interview, Ijobservect the detainee had- a' black eye,
-- facial cuts- around the nose area, and his fingers on both hands
b6 -1 were taped. up. The -detainee, who spoke English, said" words-to
1°70 "1 the effect "they", motioning to the Military Police MP! guards, .
_ had done this to him. A Colonel in charge of the MPs,~whose
| name: could not recall, advised that the detainee's
injuries were sustained in a scuffle due to the detainee.
. becoming K1011".-CiOIClplia1'1t and had to be bought into compliance by a .,
Rapid Response Team. The. detainee also had a cast on one of his
ankles which was for -an injury sustained priorto the detain_ees
arrival at GTMO. - ' '
I ' did not have any substantial dealing with any
- MP5, other military personnel, Department of Defense DOD!
civilians, or any other contr ctors at GMTO regarding detainees-b5 '1 condition and treatment. did not observe any aggressive 4
WC -1 or improper handling, treatment or techniques used by. anyone on -
any of "the detainees inconsistent with FBI or Department ofJustice" DOJ! policy gL1ideline3.- L: had no understanding of
what type of harsh or a ressive interrogation techniques wereauthorized by DOD. C did not ask anyone what the DOD
- lrrvcstigationon DBLQB/200_ __ Q-,____ tele:phoni,cal],y_} _ _ ___ _ _ __
no 297;H,O;l&_1_' was-A' __{ieli_b *1 Dat:d1 09 09 2 04 32 g g i -6 -_ .
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if there were any,yeapons@ithey had been_aoquired from a Mujahideen.
. eight-"to-'t_eri-years-ago that 'L¢as"ac-quainted'wi'th his brother. -' ' ._ .I _ Ahother theory suggested by[%;:lwas that the weapons may belong a __
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resented to him According to an enem of his family hac1 " ."promulgated" an'un.sub'stant-iated rumor thalinad weapons. '=
the basis for this alle ation was an ar ument that "I-Iowever ' .. _ - " " - "V ' g _' ' ' . ' " ' l __ _ _ l "5brother phonetic!. "had with phoneti'C!".. ' _.f::|ar1d had =a"--l.ong_-standing isagreement ower money. ," -
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- ,. '|:|;descr-ibed an -added 'dime_ns'-ion to the conflict "between his
brother and-"enemies.'of'_his -f_a_mily."_ 'A=_:c;ordi_ng to I: a member _
of "onetribe 1. was killed, so someone--from the offending -tribe kil-led
'a member of"; the. o'p'pos'ing__-group. - This ociourred app:-oicimatel eight .years ago and was a fadlfoif intt-he animosit held against. e":family". ;_:]_sta"t_ec_1_,-. "_'Ihis1-"man' is the pause...
- _ on mul't.:i.'p_-le 'oooasioris asked. "for:p_roof'Ithat he had '-
committed "some ~-of n . opined _that if -hewere -a "fighter,_."he ' .w 'uld hav'e"ki"lled a: a 1;-1-ien himself |:f;|ins1sued that- -.
he.-was a si_ le farmer and that '.i.t_ was-only the a se "alle ' one _
of. _t-hat had'draw1f1 the "attention oi 'the'US _ont'o '- _ _
su ested that his. hrother would. straighten out __the"__ situation, -' '99
"hut that -US iorces would. not let hJ._m_c_ommun1c:ate w1th- his brother."As "an 'additio'nal" mark_ of, his inn'ocezf1ce, |:|opined that '_1.'.2hE;E"W6TE .~
no ireason to arrest him and asks-d,. ".W-hyme" and not" my ;brothers?"' -'- who-- were also present at the me__al". '|:%explai'ned that his-brother "
had traveled to speak with a_ istriot offioial named _
-about a road that'was_-_t.o built -near :|S-'§am|i1Y ¢¢>1PF>und."_ .-an t at this .was-w-hy..his brot_her._.was unavailable to corroborate. .
_ ' 1:] insisted that he kne,i-fnothing" of the 92i!eapons- -Eound-by Us ~forces in" his family-s "tompoi.1nd._ Fur_the direoted -US_ forces
"to inter92ri'ew- the people ofhis village. _ insistedl thatthé '
people of the village would support. hi"s'eto'1y- and corroborate that1iE1¬.H¬£;f"HEEE3;a'ar*E1i"e""wea-§@*am*§a~s~4j'.m§c~a--s-impee-5-arms-r=<1:| - -stated that only "commanders have weapons, li eople don't, " _
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the "doctors gave him something to"soften' them._"'_' To e lain how -"his hands ,'.c'ould heal-from the rigors of farm work,_|stat.ec1 _
tha't,f"My-.hands_-_ju'st, got better" and""If you out me it will heal-in
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q'ill'age from Jalalabad approximate-ljr four ears -ago. Only s"-brother |:|remained- in- Jalalabad. des.c_:ribed- that -- '
pomegranates were pla1fited"in"the _fall., _but aterr chan ed this toplanting inthe spring and-. harvest in t__he_ fa-ll._' 1'1a dea
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family-also grows "oriions -in one section "and grain in ano er
seonion of l-and. ' Th'e_-ent_i1_:e- family works-1:he' land and a1l- of the .
family members live wi-thina' compound -together, bt in -separate -
houses; The individual families ' '3 Y t;'her:'1se1ves-,.--but.-~share.fa -"geesthouse for'gues_ts_. Further,.|§L¬_r-ystatied that two-of hisf
brothers -do not get along, --but ithat '-the _o_t_hei_:s__ are_ close. '
" * - returned to the theme that certain elements _in_ the. I -
village werehappy tojsee him arrested, by U5 foroes"and said," ."My
enemies are ve ha py I was captured. They stab people in theback. " . Again, amended- -_1:hi-s statement =1-ater by saying _t~ha-t:'- zhe
didnit persona y ave enemies ,_ but that his brothe-r' diddue to. thea1.terca1-;ion'_.bet_w'een his brother md |:|ea¢plaj.ned-that
his brother had a fight approximate y ten" ays prior to h:i.s._<;a'pture
-by .US -forces and imjplied -that this was somehow'1inked- to the. bad _'blood betweennhis brother .a'f1d I" ._ -1 ' - _ .1
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phonetic! a well"-known comrnande-1'. _|::|admitted that". i'f_ t; e- '
weapons found 'int21'e compound hadbee-n new, '-he would-b'e ' ilty.However, the weapons really belonged to 'h-is-brother." 'could1lQ1;__,_11§;§{E,__1iE_2_!§LI;;_I}§_Q]._lZ1j.§___E§.6.EQ11.5- to anyone- because "once - ey- were ~ '
given a weapon, they were restorl§iEIe'_¬5Elf*¬'EETrrTnE?IdeT-*w1To*prF:vi'd'edin. ' "--.. - -". 1 ." .- - -. ' ' ' ..
' |:I denied being a lmemberiof the T_alibanor Al Qaeda. j ' 'Addit-ionally, Q had" heard of the I-IIG, but heard it for the first
time aplpro-Jtimate y four months"-a o and did not know anything-aboutthe organizatic-n._ Eurther,|js:-gatzsd that the Taliban did not -
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to find fJ.VE boa-tee of al'ILI'E11.1f|.J.tl0I'l |:] s famlly brought the " _-
_ ammunltlon from Jalalaloacl when. they moved to -the farm four yeare -
mc »-1 ago._ Oboe _agai_rI,j|:|insieted that "the ax-nmu'r_1it'ion_ 92§'as- not "hie, _p70 *I- =but~belonged.to his-bfother} E;:::]stated.that there were_no. . ' , - 1 . h' L "b?Ff1" _ro¢ket-propelled grenades.foun on the pIEm15ES. _Furt er, the__
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