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Dela /0FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date: O9/18/2001
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From: Berlin
Case ID #: 265AWF2228ll Pending!
265DNY-280350 Pending!
265DHQl348l0l Pending!
Title: PENTBOMB;
TWIN TOWERS BOMBING;
MULTISTATE BOMBING;
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Synopsis: Translation of the interview, conducted by German
authorities, of the girlfriend of Ziad JARRAH. V .
Enc1osure s!: Enclosed for receiving offices is a fax copy of
the original interview, in German.
Reference: TP 1309. _
Details: On 9/13/01, the German Police Department in Bochum,
Germany received a call from Aysel SENGUEN, dob[::::::] pob
Stuttgart, Germany, advising that she was no longer able to
reach her boyfriend, Ziad JARRAH, dob 5/11/75, pob Lebanon,
who was attending a Flight School in Florida. Subsequently,
SENGUEN was interviewed by German authorities. Berlin
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previously provided a brief summary of the results of the
interview. Now enclosed is the fax copy of the entire
original interview in German. The following is the English
translation:
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9/14/Ol
069-560 2880
Police Headquarters Bochum
Harne, September 13, 2001 .SubUnit: State Security _ £56
Examination of Witness
The following witness was taken to the office:
Name: S e n g u n
First name: AysDos istuttgart
Address: Stepeler Str. 75 A t. 43 44801 BochumNationality: GermanPhone:[::::::?::::::]
0577-3252773
At the beginning of the examination, the witness was advised of the:
subject of the examination: »
The witness was advised that she must tell the truth.
Prior to the examination, the witness was advised that she might
decline to answer those questions where the response might place the
witness herself or a close relative in danger to be prosecuted for a
crime or an infringement of the law. :
Privilege of a witness to decline to answer questions for personal
reasons § 52 StPO.!
Furthermore, the witness was strongly reminded of §§ 145 d, 164 StGB
Pretence of a crime/ false pretenses.!
/s/
Advised by: Lemmnis, KK
The witness provided the following declaration:
I am not related to the accused, neither by blood nor by marriage.
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Through my signature, I confirm that I have acknowledged and
understood the aforementioned instructions regarding my legal rights
and obligations and that I will provide truthful statements.
Signature: /s/ Aysel Sengn _
I am turning to the police because I am seriously concerned about my
Lebanese friend. He has been residing in Florida since June of last
year. This is where he attended a private flight school and
attempted to obtain his pilot's license, I
In view of the terrorist attack which occurred this week in the
United States of America, as well as media reports, I am afraid that
something may have happened to my friend. Since this time, I have
not heard from him. My last telephone conversation with him took
place on Tuesday, 9/11/2001, around 3 pm. This conversation was held
in a normal atmosphere and at no time appeared conspicuous. He asked
how I was doing and told me that he loved me. At this time, I was
still in the hospital after I had my tonsils removed. By the way, I
was just released from the hospital today. _
First of all, I would like to state that my friend is the following
person: ' y .
Ziad JARRAH
DOB: 5/ll/1975 in Lebanon
Address: Miami, Florida. I L
We met in 1996 in Greifswald. One month later we entered into a
close relationship. We have been a couple since then. At that time,
I still resided at Greifswald. Ziad was my neighbor at the local
private training college. He moved in five or six months after I
did.
Approximately three years ago, during the winter semester, I moved
from Greifswald to Bochum where I was accepted at a university. At_
that time, I moved to the dormitory House Michael, Laerholzstr. 3,
Bochum. Approximately four years ago, Ziad moved from Greifswald to
Hamburg in order to study aircraft construction at the local training
college. Originally, he wanted to study dentistry. However, he was
never accepted at a university.
In June of last year, I moved from Laerholzstr. to the dormitory
located at Stiepeler Str. This is still my current residence. I
would like to move to Stuttgart in October. This is where my parents
live. I will move into their apartment. They reside at Taubenstr. 9
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at 70199 Stuttgart. I will be an intern at the hospital in
Stuttgart. You see, I am studying medicine.
Despite
a regular basis every two weeks. However, it was he who mostly
visited
Friday to Sunday. I have been to Hamburg to see him three or four
times only. This is where he subleased a room from an older bguplein Haimmm-P<>o.wnb1'l1m"@l- Their name isl I :bvc
, I diedthe distance between Hamburg and Bochum, we tried to meet on
me. He used public transportation and normally stayed from
Hamburg. My friend Ziad practically moved along [with her.]
Since January or February 2000, my friend has no longer attended any
of the lectures at the technical college of higher education in
Hamburg. Even during that time, heltold me about friends who
obtained their pilot licenses during their time in the German
military. He apparently was very interested in flying even as a
child.
studies
collegeI believe this was the reason why he discontinued his
Nevertheless, he is still registered at the technical
of higher education in Hamburg, since he may, at some time,
want to continue his studies there. His parents who reside in
Beirut, Lebanon, allegedly financed his studies. I believe his
parents are very well off financially. In August of this year, I
travelled to Beirut alone to attend the wedding of his sister. I
also met his parents there. They have a rather modern attitude.
Ziad was not at the wedding personally for he was unable to get
from flying.away
In June 2000, Ziad went to America. This is where he attended a
flight school in Venice, Florida. He obtained his pilot's license
for single engine aircraft. He passed a test and was then permitted
to fly solo. I visited him in January of this year. He then flew
with me to Key West. Ziad flew himself. i
Ziad's father had a heart attack in February. He then flew to Beirut
to visit him. Thereafter, he returned to the United States. Then he
changed flight schools and went from Venice to Miami. I am not even
in a position to provide you with the names of the flight schools.
There are very many of them. However, I know that the name of the
owner of the flight school in Venice is Arne and makes arrangements
for Germans to attend. I don't know whether this_Arne is residing in
Germany or in America. Ziad resided at Venice in a communal
residence, directly on the property of the flight school. X! if
I was never very interested in things regarding flying.
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Ziads communal residence is not located on the property of the ight school but in the
near proximity.
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I always booked flights to and from Beirut via Germany or only to
Germany for him since this was cheaper. After his visit to Beirut in
February of this year, he stayed with me in Bochum for a few more
days.
We saw each other last at the end of July of this year. He spent
approximately 10 to 14 days with me at Bochum. We both stayed at my
apartment in Bochum. We spent the entire time together. During this
time, I did not study but spent all the time alone with him. Ziad
has no contacts at all in Bochum. We never met with anyone else at
that time. _
Zia ha nl ne relative in Germany. This is his cousin. His name iicis| Fnd he resides at Greifswald where he is operating a '
izza parlor. Its name isl |and is located at[Z I However, Ziad and he are no
onger on speaking terms and are no longer in touch with each other.
I don't know any other acquaintances or friends of his in Germany. I
know his family in Lebanon, as stated above. ,
Somehow he always prevented me from meeting his people/
acquaintances. He was never interested in meeting my friends here -
either. That was alright for me since we wanted to spend the little
time we had alone.
During the time when Ziad resided in Venice, we kept in touch through
emai1. But from the time in Miami, we no longer did. He probably
would have had to always use an internet café. That was too
inconvenient for him so that we were in touch by phone only.
We rarely had written contact. Writing was simply not his thing. I
believe that during the entire five years, I perhaps received two
letters and a few cards from him. I will give you the cards. You
may keep them until the situation has been clarified and I know what
happened to my friend. I do want them back later, in any case.
Looking back, we spoke on the phone almost daily. I called him more
often than he did me. During recent months, he frequently had
different telephone numbers. The most recently used current numbers
are: 0019548013169 and 0019547710620. However, I am not totally
certain of the phone number mentioned last. I would have to check my
phone bills at home.
I spoke to him on the phone last on Tuesday, 9/11/2001, I believe it
was between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. I believe it was rather 3 p.m. He
called me. I took the call in my room at the Catholic Hospital in
Hattingen Blankenstein. He called me frequently during the week. I
believe it was on Thursday, on Saturday, on Sunday and on Tuesday.
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The telephone connection last Tuesday was good. There were no
background noises. During the phone call xx 2, a lady from the
nursing staff came to my room and asked what I wanted to eat the
following day. I tried to put her off for five minutes. She
absolutely did not want to wait and I was not able to concentrate on
the call with my friend. Our telephone conversation was practically
disrupted by the nurse when I then kept it brief and told my friend
goodbye. »
In the evening, it must have been around 5 p.m. or 6 p.m., I found
out about the attack in the U.S. At this time, however, I did not
worry about my friend since the distance between New York and Miami
is rather great.
On Wednesday, at approximately 1 p.m., I tried to call my friend in
Miami on his cell phone OO1954-8013169.! After three rings, there
was an automated announcement in English that the person called could
not be reached at that time.
I tried to call several times on this day but I never reached him. .
There was always the same announcement from a tape. I was unable to
leave a message on the mailbox X!.3 I did not call his regular phone
number since I did not store it in my cell phone. I had hoped that
he would call me at the hospital before evening. However, he never
bvc
On Thursday, this is today, I was released from the hospital. This
was shortly after 10 a.m. Actually, I was to be released tomorrow.
I did not try to reach him again by phone. My friend and fellow
student,
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picked me up from the hospital. First we drove home to[:::::::]since this is where my cat was.[::::::t]had taken care of her during
the time of my hospital stay. Thereafter, we drove to my house
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This is where my friend dropped me off and then drove home. Then I
unpacked my things and placed several phone calls. The telephone
calls all concerned my upcoming move to Stuttgart in October. Then I
took a shower.
At approximatel 2:30 p.m. I played back my answering machine. Atthe same time,[y |
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arrived at my apartment. There were a total of two messages on my
answering machine. The first ame from the flight school inFlorida. The caller's name wagEifiif:fI know him from sight from arpast visit to the fliqht shool in January of this year. He is the
. His message sounded somethin likelthis: This is a message for Ziad, This is the vgigg Q| I
Even prior to my release from the hospital, I saw on television that
in Florida, in a flight school, two Arabian men are [successfully]
completing pilots training, who were brought in in connection with
the attack. These men are said to have resided at Hamburg at one
time as well.
This information on television frightened me terribly since there
were similarities to my friend. Additionally, there was the message
from the flight school on my answering machine. This upset me
terribly since it was very unusual that they call here. I was
previously never called by them here. I only remember one call from
the agent for the flight school in Germany who requested money from
Ziad That was approximately one month ago. Ziad was in America at -
this time. I informed Ziad of the phone call. He commented only
that he no longer owed them any money.
lhe is a physician in Rheine, she received the
phone number of the head of the state security in Mun r. I don'tm where the father obtained the phone number.Tff:::::Fnd[E;?f:ffFame to my apartment.T en I called the head there myself. His name is[:;;é;:::;;:]or
something like that. Within a few minutes, I descri e to 1m theworries and concerns I had. He then told me he would inform l;:::::::]
police and they would come by my [home.] I should wait for th
there.
Then they arrived at my place.
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I am turning over to the police for further processing any written
documentation from Ziad, such as postcards from him and letters
addressed to him from the AOK [health insurance], the Hamburg
Technical College of Higher Education, from a/the travel agency, as
well as a dental document [confirmation of costs.]
I have received the corresponding copies.
I will be at the apartment of my parents in Stuttgart from the
beginning of October. For this reason, I ask that the police call me
on my cell phone and send letters without any police return address
to me. I do not want to encounter any difficulties in explaining
matters to my parents. My parents were opposed to a relationship/
marriage between Ziad and me. For this reason, I kept my
relationship with Ziad a secret. My parents would prefer that I
marry a Turk. They don't know that I am still maintaining a
relationship with him. He asked my father for my hand three years
ago, but was thrown out of the house by him. They have rather great
reservations against Arabs.
I am not able to say any more regarding the entire occurrence. I am
available to you for any additional questions.
Finally, I am asked by the undersigned to call the phone number
located on my answering machine of the flight school in Florida. I
agree to do so.
First attempt approximately 10 p.m.!: V -
A male voice is answering on the other end of the line and haigg up
after Mrs. Sangun says her first name. '
Second attempt two minutes later!:
A female voice answers in English and promises, after Ms. Sengn
introduced herself, that she would be connected immediately. After a
short while, a male voice answers, who after some questioning informs
Mrs. Sengun that Ziad is wanted by the police in connection with the
attack on Tuesday. When asked about the location, Ms. Sengun is
unable to provide any information. Then she is told that her friend
was no longer alive. Finally, the person who was called asked
whether Ms. Sengun could still be reached under the telephone number
and address they knew in Bochum.
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