Since You Asked - November 19, 2004

Mail Tribune (Medford, OR — Wayback)

2004-11-26

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50 °F Forecast | Road Cams Thursday, November 25, 2004   Today's News | Classifieds | Autos | Homes | Jobs | Tempo | Health | Community | Home Delivery   SECTIONS Home Page Local News Sports Business Obituaries   Life   Opinion - Politics   Tempo   AP News   Weather   Classified   Archives   Site Map   SPECIAL SECTIONS   Since We Asked   Outdoor Journal   Menu Guide   How To Guide   Wellness Connection   Readers' Choice   Real Estate Showcase   Joy Magazine   Homelife Magazine   Wedding Guide   Passport to the Rogue Valley   EXTRA   Newspaper in Education   Personals   Movie Times   TV Times   E The People   MARKETPLACE Find a Car Find a Home Find a Job Classifieds Place an ad  eSouthernOregon Automotive Communities   Entertainment   Publications   Recreation   Calendar   CUSTOMER SERVICE Frequent Questions Advertising Information Home Delivery Employment Contact Us Media Kit   Network Affiliate Oregon Road Conditions & Cams Email Story to a Friend November 19, 2004 Since You Asked What’s Thanksgiving without a bird and a beer? Two questions about the Pilgrims and the first Thanksgiving. Did they have turkey? And did they have beer? — John T., Medford. In short, John, yes. But let’s clear up a couple of things. One, nobody thought of calling these guys "the pilgrims" until almost 200 years later. And two, although settlers held a harvest celebration in 1621, and it’s a charming story, it was not the start of a tradition. The colonists never repeated the feast. Thanksgiving was put into the calendar in 1863. As to turkey. Settler Edward Winslow reported that, "our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might after a special manner rejoice together." Winslow wrote that the feast included 90 American Indians and lasted three days. According to the Plimoth (yes, that’s how they spell it) Plantation, the museum in Plymouth, Mass., dedicated to the settlement, the game would have included ducks, geese, swans and turkeys. Advertisement Now as to beer. It’s not mentioned in the two surviving accounts of the feast. But the Mayflower carried casks of beer instead of water, and the Pilgrims drank it daily. Another clue: Their destination was Virginia, but they missed and hit Massachusetts. Why stay there instead of pressing on? "We could not take time for further search or consideration," one diary explained, "our victuals being much spent, especially our beer." Send questions to "Since You Asked," Mail Tribune Newsroom, P.O. Box 1108, Medford, OR 97501; by fax to 541-776-4376; or by e-mail to [email protected] . We’re sorry, but the volume of questions received prevents us from answering all of them. Mail Tribune Home Local News  | Sports  | Business  | Obituaries  | Life Opinion - Politics | AP News | Archives  |  Site Map   E Southern Oregon  | Classified   Copyright © 1997-2004 Mail Tribune. All rights reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms & Conditions Website Feedback   ADVERTISERS A D V E R T I S E R S SPECIAL SECTIONS Auto Finder Job Finder Home Finder Joy Magazine Homelife Magazine Tempo Readers' Choice Real Estate Showcase Since We Asked Outdoor Journal Moving to Southern Oregon? Volunteer Opportunities