Pain Management with Dr. Frank Shallenberger (The Wellness Hour)

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Pain Management with Dr. Frank Shallenberger (The Wellness Hour)
YouTube video by Dr. Frank Shallenberger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YPzjyVdFw). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.

you're watching the wellness hour leader in medical news and information I'm Randy AAS today's topic uh new treatment options for people that are suffering with uh chronic pain my first guest is Dr shenberger Dr shenberger welcome to the program it's great to be here now uh before we get into today's topic because this is a big topic uh tell us about your Center because you do more than just treat pain patients well that's true um we do everything that's uh alternative in nature in the sense of combining traditional medicine with alternative types of approaches to health okay and my my goal is to really is to prevent prevent people from getting sick we we treat people that get sick too but my what I'm really interested in is getting people in there that are healthy that feel good and they just want to be that same way in 20 and 30 40 years later so you get all types of patients I mean you get the the people that want bioidentical hormones uh the longevity crowd and uh and and and pain what so what percentage of the practice is pain and would you like to see more pain patients yes I I I really love to see pain patients because uh if there's anything that makes a doctor feel really good it's taken people out of pain that's the worst thing that could happen to anybody I that I've learned that real quick like yeah probably half my practice is pay patients really you know I've talked to doctors you know our show airs Nationwide and uh they confide me they don't like the pain patient why do you well I like it because the things that I do it takes the pain away most doctors don't like pain patients because they're there's nothing not crabby kind of a patient there's not that much out there to help the patient except give him drugs I mean you're not really taking care of the problem I can take the pain away is that right now we're going to have to put disclaimers all over the show that results are typical not typical but uh but you I mean the results are there I mean you're getting a lot of results right are using traditional medicine and alternative therapies because I know is that right well yeah I mean it this way one one is you have pain is its own problem okay now we we use an alternative treatment to solve that but you figure the other thing is to the person that has the pain if they're if they're healthy and they're vibrant they're going to be much more likely to respond to any other therapy that I do so we kind of work on both aspects we want I want my pain patient to be healthy and at the same time then I'm going to go ahead and give them something to take away the pain and that that combination just is a marel now backing up for just a moment your background training uh I guess you were involved in emergency medicine well that's how how did you make this transition that's that's how I started out I started on emergency medicine because I remember when I was younger it was exciting it was interesting and and what I always loved about emergency medicine is you get to go straight to the cause of the problem and you know if somebody came in with a a gunshot wound I just didn't give him pain medicine and sent him home we actually went to find out what was causing the problem literally fix the problem and off they go cured and it's a done deal and um and that's that's what I did for do you feel like you're doing that even today in a while well that was the idea after about eight or nine years of doing that I decided you know I'm going to get involved in just general medicine and that's and that's when when I got involved in general medicine that's when I really came through to me Randy that in most situations doctors aren't able to really get to the cause of things and and it just it it just made me very curious I just really wanted to know what is what causes us to get sick and that's you know in the in the late 70s that's when I got involved in alternative and anti-aging medicine because those are the things that really drove me okay so you started out traditional medical doctor emergency room medicine you thought and I'm paraphrasing of course that you could have the most impact there do you think you have more impact now doing what you're doing oh undoubtedly you know there's still emergency docks out there taking care of emergency so that's just fine but this this area this whole area of preventive medicine where you literally take healthy people that there's nothing wrong with them yeah and you initiate a process that keeps them that way until they're until they're old interesting interesting okay now uh you know we invited you on the show to talk about prazone therapy okay uh and and by the way what is this used for what areas of the body of pain is this used for it's used for literally any area of the body where you have pain okay we do feet we do ankles knees just work your whole way on up uh obviously anything along the spine we do a lot of necks and spines and low backs in particular shoulders elbows wrists hands fingers any place that's teeth I do teeth I do TMJ I do anything where there's pain with pain okay so let's talk then let's start with the back okay back pain you know maybe herniated disc or you know the you know they've tried maybe injections before they've tried different things medications at what point do they see you and who is your typical patient the comes in for the back pain at what point do they go to you and how do they hear about you uh virtually all the time people come in to see me after they've already tried many other tra more traditional sorts of therapies and they haven't worked so like like what Chiropractic well like maybe Chiropractic like uh rest uh like Physical Therapy uh some of them have had surgery a lot of my patients have already had surgery and the surgery either didn't work or didn't work well enough all right um then there's certain kind of neurological procedures where patients can go have nerves of bladed and such like that but most of my patients are people that are pretty much exhausted the traditional or conventional way of treating their condition and it's not working and they're just stuck on pain pills now in your area would you say there's thousands of people that are in pain that don't have to be absolutely really oh yeah yeah if you know if the average person out in the audience were to to to to just think about the people he knows he probably going to find maybe half the people a third of the people that he knows are in pain of some kind they learn to live with it is that they don't always talk about you know you're not going to tell your friend that you're in pain necessarily you're going to you're going to just sort of deal with it but a lot of people have a lot of pain and uh and they just learn to live with it because they don't know what else to do okay so let's talk about your your uh let's start with low back pain okay so it's called Uh prone therapy that's right this is one of the phrases you coined it's it's an injection with oxygen that's true I I I don't quite understand how it works so help me understand well to to understand how this therapy works you have to understand what causes pain in the first place so what is it so what causes pain in the first place is decreased circulation you got to figure your body when it gets injured there's processes in the body that cause it to heal itself okay those processes are dependent on circulation as long as you have adequate circulation to the area that area will heal so if I'm like bang my shoulder on my bang my arm on something yeah that area will heal I fully expect it to heal and it will heal but every now and then somebody wakes up and you say you know what I had an injury this injury happened X months ago and it's not healing what's up with that how come it's not healing the answer always is there's not adequate circulation so in the case of a low back pain maybe a little arthritis or herniated disc not enough circulation or something that's right if it hurts there's not enough circulation that's what causing the pain so so take me through a typical patient comes in okay so they have a herniated disc it it shows up on an MRI what are you doing that or it's pinching a nerve yeah what are you doing are you reducing inflammation what are you doing well we do all of the above of course but but here here's the pro pro problem you get the injury you have the problem it creates swelling and inflammation that's swelling and inflammation impede the circulation without the circulation they can't get rid of the swelling inflammation and it's a it's a vicious is it just a matter of it bulging against the nerve that's causing the pain or it's more than that it no it's it's not just that dis is bulging most discs get healed just on their own you don't actually need surgery for if you can get adequate circulation in the area but it's a vicious cycle so you have to reestablish the circulation to the area and that's what I do really I inject into that area the the things that the cells there would ordinarily get from an adequate circul like for example oxygen that's the main component that's what cells need to heal you know in an injured area you've got stem cells you have blast cells they're sitting there they're waiting to do their job they're waiting to fix that area in order to do that they need oxygen but they can't get it because the swelling and the inflammation prevent the oxygen from getting in I just shoot the oxygen right in on the area and what kind of oxygen are are you shooting in I I shoot it in in the form of ozone okay now oxygen that we're breathing right now now is is two oxygen atoms put together we call that O2 that's the stable form of oxygen that's why it's in the atos we breathe it ozone is something I have to make up in the office what we do is we take uh O2 from a from a you know medical grade oxygen and from a tank yeah from a tank and we pump it through a converter box in the converter box those o2s get broken up into o1s and immediately they reassemble most of them back into O2 but proportion of them reassembled into o03 so you have three oxygen atoms stuck together now that oone it's called ozone it's more powerful more therapeutic to the body powerful in fact Studies have shown that if you just inject oxygen into area nothing will happen you have to inject oxygen in the form of ozone and that's when the miracle happens really okay so where where else in the world by the way are they using this and is this accept it the use of ozone and medicine has been used for over 50 years now primarily in Europe and which is where I learned it some 30 eyed years ago right now the new thing is using it for pain it's been used for all kinds of it's working I mean are you seeing someing are you surprised sometimes with the results you're getting I'm surprised when it doesn't work every now and then