How To Avoid Aging Through Telomere Activation with Edward Park (Make Peace with Food)

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How To Avoid Aging Through Telomere Activation with Edward Park (Make Peace with Food)
YouTube video by Dr. Ed Park (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA2uOiQsnig). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.

for about 20 30 years people have been using Prolotherapy and then PRP which is a kind of Prolotherapy so Prolo means proliferative or basically they put like sugar in there hypertonic sugar and it caused we think cellular damage so that damage brought in inflammation which brought in stem cells to repair the inflammation and the way they do that is hi Edward welcome to the show thanks thanks a lot Sherry thanks for having me well thanks for making the time and a couple weeks ago I was on Gaia which is one of the channels that I like to subscribe to and I watch an amazing little interview with you and I I learned a lot about stem cells and about certain topics that I thought I had a pretty good understanding around but what I was the most fascinated with is really understanding that we could also implicate a in working with stem cells and working with Tel and I know you have a deep passion for this so before we get into it I think just to maybe make it a little bit more basic maybe we could start around how did you get into this why is this such a passionate topic for you yeah I mean I was practicing medicine and my father uh almost 20 years ago got brain cancer so I thought oh my God people get sick and die why is that so I looked into it and the thing that made sense was toras tiir they the ends of of chromosomes so every time a cell divides the ters gets short so basically we're just made up of cells they come from stem cells so when your mom and dad got together there was one stem cell the fertilized egg and so you have you know various trillions of cells now but there are certain types of cells called stem cells and as we get older we lose those partly because of tiir attrition or the tiir shortening uh but they did a great study a few years ago on a Dutch l 114 or so and she only had two out of like 10,000 left of her uh immun producing cells so life is a journey and um if we can sort of ameliorate the way in which the cells are mutating and how fast they're being depleted and now we I have friends like in Costa Rica can pay him a bunch of money he'll try and replenish your stem cells these are the basic facts of what caused us to get old and sick okay so again coming back to your your deep passion you just shared with me offline before we started talking and and what I also love about just our conversation offline is you're you're so intriguing because you're you're almost 60 I think and you look you look like you're in your 20s which is insane and then you shared with me your journey since you were in your 30s and you've been you've been taking telr I think throughout this whole entire time so so maybe even get into that what about your personal journey into why this is so important for you well you know I I I have two kids one just graduated college and the other one so I got to stay around and you know pay for that but it's been fun you know over the last 17 years every night I take a tet activator and as I go I just last week had a conference with anti-aging gurus I've known up to 17 years and they're starting to get older some have passed away so I think that for whatever reason this one and only thing I've taken has just flattened out the curve so I don't have really any gray hair on my head or and I don't need reading glasses I can read three inches away and I just think that's just onethird of the aspect the interview I did with you is a theme I sometimes come up with meaning um five dimensions of Aging so if you look at stem cells there's um maintenance which is Vishnu and I think the Tas has kept me maintained the ters haven't gotten too long but they haven't shorted so that means the rate at which I'm aging is abnormal normally slow but then stem cells as Brahma in the Vishnu uh Brahma Shiva Trilogy or uh that's our stem cells are always getting depleted you know um even a a woman that has eggs the time of her most fer her most fertile eggs was in utero actually and after you hit 35 the egg quality is decreased so the last thing is Shiva which is self suicide or destruction uh there really hasn't been a lot of great products for that but uh people take things like curcumin and I guess they do things to help um but those are the first three dimensions then time and then entropy so entropy is something I've gotten more into you know you have these um epigenetic clocks I don't know if you heard of they'll send blood and they'll tell you how old you are and hopefully so basically in addition to the hardware of the cells and the DNA there's a software so there are switches that you can throw on the jeans to turn them on and off uh it's called um acetylation and methylation so every time a cell copies it tries to copy the software too but that's a little more than 100% efficient I think so as we go through life the entropy or the additional silencing happens and that's why cells themselves can act funky even if their immediate predecessor was okay the software can be over silencing all the genes right and and what you're talking about here is the environmental factors right so so the hardware is what's maybe passed on right that's that's what we see as as the DNA but according to epigenetics it could be modified depending on the environmental factors so how does that fit in well you know on a more basic level like you buy a computer from Best Buy or whatever or the internet and then it's got software loaded it's usually Microsoft Windows right so um if you're going to clone that computer you clone what's on the hard drive that's the software right but um cells do this too so on the most basic level like if you're a muscle cell in the heart right um it's a bad example but your daughter if your stem cell there is going to have all the switches turned on and off to tell your daughter how to be a muscle cell on the heart so that's good but um yeah know people have done experiments with epigenetics and what you're referring to is like oh intergenerational trauma and stuff like that like H hundredth monkey stuff mice will learn stuff that other mice have learned I mean that's kind of some weird akashic spiritual stuff I don't know but the science is pretty well uh understood although the the devil is in the details so yeah so things that we do to stay healthy and you know whatever light sound love all that can help keep it all good but yeah basically we're all just made up of cells that come from other cells and yeah nobody really understands um too much so we have disbiosis which is now impacting the immune system now that the immune system is compromised then now we're able to react a lot more strongly to all these toxins in our environment and other things in our environment causing more disbiosis and gut issues and so it's almost like we're we're trapping ourselves in that cycle and to your point what is the root cause because there are so many root causes and so if so many things are outside of our control what could we control what could we start with right now to to actually start to maybe change some of these factors that are the most impactful well well you I'm kind of hypocritical because I griet the day with a doughnut and coffee and you know the thing is like you know I was just on a podcast with a lady who had terrible uh celiac disease which is gluten intolerance not just sensitivity but yeah I do have a patient uh well actually a colleague that's treating 30 autistic kids a month and the one thing she has them do is not take like a lot of bread or gluten right because it just whatever you're doing it's gonna make it worse you know so she'll be treating the kids with um exosomes nasal IV and she's seeing about she claims a 70% Improvement in their behavior and their scores which is amazing but um the thing that I really want to highlight is if you are on the inflammatory Spectrum you've got Mass cell issues then probably eliminating a lot of these uh inflammatory foods are important and it's not the same for everyone you can get this alcat food sensitivity test which may guide your decision but um you know it sucks to have to live with an Elimination Diet but you know if I had to choose one or the other in terms of like vegan or vegetarian versus meat probably the people who do more of the meat do a little better unfortunately but yeah that's a great question so diet you know mindset to getting out nature getting off your cell phones don't Doom scroll anything that makes you as a person happier and more abundant grateful is going to help your immune system because at the the core of it the immune system shuts down when you're stressed right and so that looks like um High cortisol decreased immune function and then all the stuff is invited in like all the opportunistic parasites and whatnot yeah wow such a good point it's true you can juice and do the all the organic stuff and get the grass-fed beef and but if your environment is very stressful and you're always being triggered by people around you or even things around you you you're always going to be compr so I think that's that's probably one of the most impactful things ever to share around how to really optimize your health I love what you said the things that just make you feel good that bring you Joy that that really help you regulate the nervous system very powerful sure for sure and so we are kind of the Masters of that we're the quarterbacks the captains we can control that so we can limit our exposure the problem is that you know a lot of people are in that sort of root chakra where they're danger like and unfortunately some of their social as they take on the sickness role you know that becomes part of their identity like they get like all the secondary gain attention you know becomes their identity and nowhere do we see this more with cancer patients once like a light switches when you get cancer I mean there's different kinds of cancer with different kinds of treatment and survival but once you become a cancer patient like it becomes part of your identity and I think that people who do better in the long run are just the ones who treat it like another issue they have to resolve and once they resolve it it's it's over but um I think identity is like the mind is constantly unfortunately dictating and orchestrating all these like disaster scenarios so we got to get more back in our heart and be like grateful and grounded and and that's what life is all about anyway enjoying that not you know one patient who I know you're talking about Mass Cell Activation and sounds like maybe you have some experience with that if you read the book um you'll see incredible photos of a guy I wrote this book called exosome songs of healing and people ask me what's your best patient this guy is like a 46y old Hungarian guy and he photo documented over the first two weeks after you know just a simple Ivy exome injection he must have healed his gut uh because I didn't really even believe in all this like gut leakiness this guy went from having like eczema all over his hands swelling in his face um spider veins and you know diarrhea food intolerance to just being normal and that was crazy so the only explanation I could have was that he was eating food the food was going directly in his blood system and just triggering this non-specific allergic reaction wow wow yeah that's powerful and and and I think what you were talking about earlier in terms of just that component of of how you're thinking becoming very addictive to some negative thoughts or taking on this identity depending on what disease you may be diagnosed with I think that's the mindset component that you're referring to so you talked about diet exercise breathing and then mindset as well being one of the pillars can you expand a little bit more on that as well yeah I mean I remember I was giving a lecture uh seven eight years ago and this guy just a regular guy said he had an app on his phone to remind him to breathe deeply every hour I was like wow that's great because like so much of the day we're kind of like in that whole Future Past mode you know mitigating disasters and but just to be able to breathe deeply automatically relax is so much and can put so much in perspective so you know people often meditate and they feel like oh thoughts are just clouds passing or whatever I don't personally meditate but anything that gets you more into that sort of vagal relaxed uh restorative mode is key and of course you know I think maybe it's Dolly llama who said sleep is the best meditation so many people I have this mindset like I'll sleep when I die but they don't really understand you know I had a Acro you know Circ dis Acro yoga this um 34 year-old lady she tumbles and does all this stuff and she's like I never dreamed she just texted me this morning I had this crazy dream that the exosomes you gave me were flowing through my body like a wave and the point is like you're if you read this book tare Miracle it explains sleep architecture and everyone's the same like it's a lie that old people don't need sleep right you know they do and if we're doing it right the first two or three Cycles are deep wave sleep where the body is restoring growth hormone everything is fixing but the last two to four Cycles you should be dreaming vividly that's where you're um your procedural memory the meaning of everything is being Rewritten in dreams so it's super interesting just for that I think it's a good read super interesting I'm I'm definitely going to check that out and and as you're talking I'm like okay so he has coffee and donuts for breakfast and you know he okay he he swam this morning fine and he doesn't meditate and then he looks like he's 2 five all right I don't know about that but thank you I'll take it okay give it up what is it tell me everything how H how what is no it's just that it was just no that's it I mean I'm not really I don't do a lot of healthy stuff I should and I I hope to in the future but really just that t activator it's basically a molecule from a Chinese longevity herb and they modify it slightly probably and um it just you know doubles or triples your Tas activity so all the stem cells in your body that want to have short T mutate and die uh it just been slower in my case that's it for 17 years I haven't taken like hormones or you know any kind of supplements not even vitamins yeah if you look at what I buy at the convenience store across the street you'd be like this dude should be dead like so you know I mean this is people don't want to hear that they want to hear like oh okay you know so all the stuff even I came up with a mantra for gratitude before sleep which I don't even practice anymore and I don't think that I mean it makes me a hypocrite but someone might get value from it I I just create a list of 10 things you can do to get your mind set because the thoughts you have before your sleep are kind of like the theater you decide to go into at the multiplex are you g to go into like a comedy romantic musical or you going to go into like a horror show you know so it's very important that's why they always say don't don't go to to bed mad at your spouse because that'll rewrite some kind of other story now oh super interesting okay so you take the tare activator that's it and and so you shared with me earlier that at in your 30s you were obese you had a lot of health issues you shared me some photos with you and your son can I share it I don't know if it'll recording share it all right and anybody who's watching this on audio if you jump on YouTube You're gonna be able to see this because this is like this is insane this is really insane yeah so this is me uh few weeks ago in New York on the right with my two sons now 21 and 25 girlfriend I blocked out for privacy um anyways and then if you go to the left that's me in 2000 you know seven years before Tous activation I was very obese very stressed out diabetes fatty liver you know 20 30 pounds heavier very sick but then at three months of taking the ta65 toris activator uh I just lost a bunch of visceral fat and that was a game changer so throughout the years here's me at 43 and then 49 and then uh here 56 last year with my mom M who is not been good about this Plum seor but she's taken 60 exosome shots and she's 87 driving around very productive very intact at 87 now so yeah I think that people I go to these conferences with they tout a lot of things but I think they're getting older in fact five people I met at the revolution against aging and dying Festival have died which is no sad wow okay I have to ask yeah so you started taking the activator and you and you changed nothing else NADA no no diet so you went from diabetic and PR diabetic not really PR diabetic and overweight to not changing your diet at all yeah but it it what the way I understand it or explain it is it caused a like the stem cells in your fat and my fat were old and ccent and it caused an Extinction event so after three months new cells were were replaced with the old see like I said earlier at the very beginning the daughters are only as old or sick as the moms so the visceral fat in my it's called the momentum it's a fatty sheath that lines your colon that stuff was old and inflamed and damaged so it must have caused an Extinction event that took three months to show up yeah but people like they don't believe that they're like how could you lose weight without diet exess I'm like I don't it's just biochemistry it has nothing to do with my virtue or discipline wow wow wow I love that you're so truthful and you're just you're just saying it as it is so I just want to honor you so much for that thank you and and then the other thing is so what other effects can we see from people starting to take this activator so besides maybe yeah reducing subtle yeah everyone's different I mean I have a million views on YouTube because for many years that's all we had over the last five six years I've had exells which can regrow stuff that's like the Brahman this it caus your stem cells to get get back with it grow carage hair everything it's great but so for the first 10 years all I had was the torous activator and it could be subtle but I would say the main thing is vivid dreaming if you take it at night like this this uh acrobat that texted me Vivid dreaming um better skin quality faster nail growth almost everyone reports on my hair and nails grow so fast sometimes you get repigmentation and I would say reading glasses for us folks over 40 I mean I used to have to hold the book this far away but now I can read three inches away and it just makes that lens and the muscles work better more plastic so I would say probably the majority of people at a good dose will lose about a half a diopter so if you're like a plus two you might go to plus 1.5 so those are all good things you know other people have had certain help um with autoimmune stuff so I think it just kind of boosts up your immune system I mean if you want to understand the mechanism there's scientific articles but it's just generally a good tool to have yeah okay so I think most people are familiar with PRP right so so let's say regeneration and depending of course on the extent of of the injury but regeneration let's say of knee cartilage or sometimes shoulder depending how how is this different than what you're sharing and what you do how is this different than what what most of us have learned about stem sell yeah yeah that's a great question okay so if you pick up the book there's a chapter five that explains this so um for about 20 30 years people have been using Prolotherapy and then PRP which is a kind of Prolotherapy so Prolo means proliferative or basically they put like sugar in there hypertonic sugar and it caused we think cellular damage so that damage brought in inflammation which brought in stem cells to repair the inflammation and the way they do that is by secreting these exosomes okay so now we can just forget those first steps and just go the exosomes but but uh PRP likewise they draw your blood they spin it down in a kit um it's platelet rich level of the plasma and it has platelets in it and the platelets have their own exosomes but they tend to be very inflammat inflammatory so uh they tell you you can't take moin or Tylenol because they want inflammation in my way of thinking it's effective but if something that you did PRP on which is a little cheaper than exosomes if that worked then the exomes would be much more effective and you don't have to go through the pain and inflammation so PRP is good it's affordable but it's hit ormis stem cells also Hit or Miss depending on the quality and whatever but the exosomes in my experience are just a little more predictable and they don't cause the inflammation on the contrary they shut down the inflammation rather quickly okay yeah and and it almost sounds like it's also more systemic whereas PRP is is very local right so you're you're putting it in one area correct yeah I mean but I for me personally in my practice I inject it locally so if you have a knee problem like in the past I would have done PRP or stem cells I'll just put exosomes in there so it's always better to get it in the spot where you need it because it's going to leak out but that's true prps affect is mainly locally because it causes that local inflammation which then brings in the stem cells which then secrete the exosomes okay and and then what if we also talk a little bit about the the placent so placental stem cells I remember when I gave birth to my daughter there was this program I signed up on and they kept the placenta and it's it's something that we have just in case one day you need so so again how how is that similar or how is that different than than what you're researching and doing yeah so um you know I used to be OBG so I've thrown thousands of placentas in the trash so about six years ago a lady who delivered at the University of Miami cell bank she donated her placenta and the scientists extracted the mesenchimal stem cells from that placa and then every two three months they make a brand new batch from those original single donor cells so they multiply them up to numbers and then those'll secrete a bunch of exosomes they filter and collect them so there's a lot of um misinformation disinformation obfuscation in this field basically a placenta is you know basically fetal tissue Tied by an umbilical cord to the belly button of the baby right so you can get it from the cord it has slightly different epigenetic or different behaviors but it's all placental tissue there's some people who make a lot of whether you got it from the cord part or whether you got it from the placenta part it's kind of not I'm not sure that that's really valid an MSC is an MSC whether it's from a cord or placa there are some differences who knows if that makes a big difference but I think we should back up here Sher and just say what is a stem cell like throughout your body from birth till death you get a paper cut you get a third degree burn you know there are msc's which are meenal stem cells lining the blood vessels and when they sense there's a danger they go into activity and we I used to say and I made a mistake in my first book that I self-published that the stem cells T time bombs the stem cells will go out and become something they might might they might not uh the reason we think that is because stem cell scientists can take an MSC and how they prove they have an MSC add a few chemicals and it'll become bone or muscle or something else right so they're like oh but they say well that maybe doesn't happen in the body I don't think so if you can do it in a lab Mother Nature can do it but it's really controversial whether they engraft whether the stem cells in your sprain ankle your paper cut become tissue more likely uh the founder and the the guy who named the MSC Arnold Kaplan who died last year he says you don't even need the stem cells it's just the exosomes is how they work so they send out these invisible literally 100 nanometer invisible little spheres and they have mRNA and proteins to reprogram the cells so that you can heal so this even though it's not FDA approved this is how you are healing from birth till death same mechanism and because they come from um another person you might think there's a problem but at 100 nanometers in this particular manufacturing process there's no self antigens which is the problem with stem cells if your daughter 40 years from now needs something and the science is so much better she can thought out a portion of the placenta maybe grow some kidney or whatever she needs because that's a perfect genetic match but when you take an offthe shelf stem cell from someone else there's something called major hytto compatibility complex antigens which is why tissue needs to be matched even though it's matched it'll still get rejected it's like a really fine combination that if it doesn't match your body will basically kill those stem cells if it's competent within three to four days but during those three or four days you're making exosome which is great but that's the rub you know you can't really expect someone else's stem cells to survive because they're big they're three to five microns whereas these tiny exosomes are 100 nanometers so whenever you thought they should be totally clear and invisible because even with the best light microscope in the world you can't see anything below 200 nanometers so they're literally invisible yeah so fascinating and you know I have to say one thing I I really appreciate appreciate about our conversation and even just again watching your your episode on Gaia is how you tie in spirituality with with so much science and and I'm really curious about that super fascinating how do you marry the two and and it it it's very clear that that's also something that's very important to you so where does that come from oh I mean as a divorc person maybe marriage doesn't have the same significance as it others but um I mean I I don't really consider myself a very theistic person I don't consider myself an atheistic person I just if certain phenomenon occur and you know they're reproducible then I it would be ignorant of me to deny them that's all so I just look at as a phenomenon if it wow if it happens then who am I to say it didn't happen you know like I've had over this year there's a lot of people who have told me about their past lives so you know my Shaman who I told you designed this my friend who's a shaman yeah he's so funny but she's like oh I can tell you about your past life so do we really want to know maybe maybe we do maybe we don't but I think uh to assume that your way of understanding the universe is always going to be correct is probably not very efficient so I just don't want to be wrong I want to know more right you know so I'm very gullible like I'll spend six hours learning about Flat Earth you know but then you know I'm also very skeptical so I think that's efficient to be open-minded but then also very critical so I don't think the Earth is flat yeah I I would term that Curiosity yeah openminded and critical like just bringing both like the Curiosity and and the analytical mind to it it's very for sure yeah I there's so much more terms of I've been blogging a lot about synchronicity if they go to my website they can sign for the blog just tell people it's a big turnoff because they're all in their heads and they're like why you even talking about this you know but I think it's interesting like all the people you meet you have such an influence on them you don't even know and you can change their lives so why not leverage that but people spend their lives so much in their blinders trying to make some goal happen and suffering and it's just like you know it should be much more fun to enjoy life right but we're all guilty of it you know right yeah yeah happens so easily wow this was such an amazing conversation I feel like I could continue to pick your brain I I have to tell you I've learned a lot from you already today and how does somebody work with you so somebody's listening in today and they're super curious about you know some of these things I think I shared with you um for me I've had surgery on my back twice I I've had partial loncto and and this is something that I also want to consider doing because every now and then I'll get a flare up and I'm a very active person and I as I'm aging I'm starting to feel those limitations so how could we how could we reach out and start to work with you yeah yeah uh so thank you um I have a book uh fourth time now exosome songs of healing it's audio book also um you can go to recharge biomed.com sign up for the newsletter I blog usually every week um and you know on YouTube it's DRP R K65 I've got dozens of videos and you they could just learn more um if they want to have a consult they live in one of the six states where I practice California Texas Florida New York Hawaii Utah then I can come to them uh but basically you know they can just go to recharge biomed.com ask a question or they can schedule a free Zoom consult we can chat about that so those are the main way yeah well thank you so much and we're we're going to add all of that to our show notes and just as we sign off today was was there anything else that you wanted to share Ed or drop before we conclude no I I just think people should I mean be open-minded yet skeptical I mean the biggest problem I have my biggest asset is people who've been helped because they 70% of my patients are repeat you fix their shoulder they like come back fix my knee but I think you know for every person that's help they'll tell 20 people not even one will even look at it so keep an open mind no one's asking you to write a check you know just keep an open mind this stuff hopefully will be FDA approved there's like at least a dozen trials and then doctors can use it off label you know so hopefully it'll be coming soon to you um if you don't want to pay for it or can't afford it now it doesn't mean that it's not valid a lot of people have that sour grapes attitude so it never hurts like me in the Flat Earth to open your mind and think about it you don't have to believe in it you don't have to spend money on it but that's my uh invitation to everyone just have an open mind because you know I go to these uh conferences with all these experts they getting older some are dying you know nobody has all the answers they might have something to sell you but nobody has all the answers so it's important to keep an open mind because we're not talking about science fiction here I mean I did write a science fiction graphic novel that was the first thing I did when I had my midlife crisis I wrote this amazing graphic novel wow about immortality but um nobody has all the answers but the science is not esoteric it's very easily understood what is a stem cell how can we Bank our stem cells like for your daughter how will we use them in the future like this is not like even like fracking or like isotope carbon dating this is very easy to understand I invite you to just take a look and understand yeah W thank you so much that was so well said and and thanks for all your wisdom and thanks for all the work that you do and and the innovation you bring to us and this was a really enlightening conversation I loved