Fasting for Cancer? Dr. William Makis - Ivermectin and Fenbendazole

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2024-06-10

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Fasting for Cancer? Dr. William Makis - Ivermectin and Fenbendazole
YouTube video by Dr. William Makis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znqKvUY_NyE). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.

I am uh really excited to have the most censored oncologist maybe ever come in and talk about some things uh this will just full preference uh it's condensed down and pretty vague a little bit on uh some of the reasons behind just so we don't get censored and are able to get the message out to more people uh we'll have a link to the followup as we dive in to the nitty-gritty [Music] Dr mcus thank you so much for uh taking the time to join us I think that you might be the most censored oncologist of all times and uh we'll get into kind of why later but at first I want to kind of tell your story and uh the approach that you've used in what seems to be a new variety of cancer so uh your story is fascinating in that uh as an AS an immigrant and the struggles and hard work you've put in so it's just brilliant so if you don't care just kind of lay that out sure well thank you very much for having me I was born in communist Czechoslovakia and my family fled communism in 1988 through a United Nations refugee camp in in Yugoslavia so we were put in a refugee camp um we stayed there for about a year I learned English there and we didn't know where we were going to end up uh we ended up applying at the Canadian consulate uh we were accepted CED and so we came to Canada in 1989 I grew up in Toronto I did all my schooling in Toronto I went to University of Toronto and got a four-year Immunology degree so I have uh four years of Immunology background and then went to medical school at McGill University in Montreal it's best medical school in Canada and I obtained a fiveyear specialization in nuclear medicine radiology and oncology so it's a branch of radiology that deal specifically with cancer and so anything to do with radiation and cancer um that was my specialization and so um I've been practicing for 14 years now in Canada uh I ran a very large cancer treatment program we were curing endstage cancer patients these were neuroendocrine cancer patients we were curing about 85 to 90% of endstage cancer patients with targeted radiation targeted rcle therapy this is a form of radiation that's attached to molecules that deliver radioactive particles directly to tumor cells and then kill the tumor cell and leaves you know the rest of the healthy tissues alone and so we were experimenting with that uh it was highly successful it had been developed in Europe uh the FDA had been sitting on it for 20 years not wanting to approve it because it would cut into the chemo uh chemotherapy budgets I imagine curing stage four cancer uh you know without the need for chemo that that was just not going to fly right and so my cancer program ended up getting sabotaged by Health bureaucrats that were loyal to Justin trudel and uh it turned out a couple of years later that the Trudeau government uh started copying my cancer program in Vancouver British Columbia poured about $300 million into it monopolized it in Canada so only they could have access to the technology and so it's one of the huge scandals in in Canadian medical history and unfortunately I got swept up right in the middle of it because you know I was at the wrong place at the wrong time using the wrong cancer treatments and so that that's kind of the story of of my life well you're you're putting out absolutely incredible work and I have learned so much from you so um my son being diagnosed with stage four cancer when he was five was my whole reason for getting into the you know the podcast and learning and how do we apply things and so that has led me down you know a lot of different rabbit rabbit Trails but uh it's been it's been beautiful in a way that we've been able to help people right like and and he's doing great uh we got scans coming up so you know that little anxiety with that that's that's going but you you're you're talking about some things that don't cost anything that may very well have an amazing impact on cancer and I want us to go into that because every single day I am seeing a new diagnosis of of you know very aggressive cancer wow all of a sudden it's a stage four and things that just seem to be different right I want us to get into why later but what is kind of that approach or that first awareness that we should have with a new diagnosis of cancer well one thing to realize is that um and this is actually very very important is that oncologists actually have their hands tied when you're in front of them and and and and when they're basically assessing your situation now oncologists you know they're they're pretty good at getting a diagnosis getting staging you know you get the biopsy for the tumor you figure out what the tumor cells are like how aggressive they are how quickly they they replicate how quickly the tumor replicates and and where the tumor is located and and you know they work together with Radiologists to to get a get a diagnosis once you have a diagnosis though if so the approach uh in traditional medicine is is that you try surgery to get as much of the tumor out as possible right now sometimes that's possible sometimes that's not possible but that's always the first treatment approach let's say in breast cancer you know they find a 1 cm tumor the first thing they're always going to do is they're going to offer surgery to get that tumor out right and they're going to look for lymph nodes see if there's any tumor in the lymph nodes and if there is they'll remove those surgically so that is always the the first approach uh and I think people have to understand that that that that there's a certain sequence in the types of treatments that you're going to be offered surgery is always going to be the first one now if surgery is not possible or if the cancer is Advanced that's when you start getting into things like chemotherapy radiation therapy maybe an immunotherapy you know depends on the type of cancer and so on and this is where the oncologists are very limited to what they've been allowed to basically offer their patients from the you know the medical authorities the medical boards the medical associations so you've got the American Cancer Association for example will put out protocols for oncologists to follow and they have to follow those protocols they're not going to Veer off the protocol right so you'll get your first line chemotherapy second line chemotherapy you might get some experimental treatments but you will not get offered anything else and I've realized especially with the recent surge in cancer and particularly aggressive cancers that you need an alternative treatment approach uh the the standard treatment approach is not going to cut it there are too many people who are not responding to traditional chemotherapy or radi ation therapy and as you mentioned you know we can sort of go into the details of that why that is uh later on but there's a lot of people who are not responding to the standard treatments and your oncologist will simply not offer you anything else you know once they've exhausted those traditional approaches first line Second Line chemo and so on maybe some radiation maybe the occasional experimental treatment like an immunotherapy once they've exhausted those and the cancer continues to grow they literally will say we have nothing else to offer you and effectively they send you home to die and and that's just not acceptable to me because I I you know a lot of these cases can actually be cured there are people who were sent home to die who then went on to take an alternative treatment approach and they cured their St stage four cancer there are many there are there are thousands of of cases like this so the question is well well how do you you know how do you find an alter what is an alternative treatment approach how do you find an alternative treatment approach and that's what I've been trying to to put together uh you know in in in my substack do articles about and I I'll give you an example of of the very first thing that I would start with uh for any cancer patient the first thing I would start with is you eliminate sugar from your diet you eliminate sugar from your diet as much as possible preferably something like a ketogenic diet the reason being is that cancer thrives on sugar uh the vast majority of cancers I would say close to 90% of cancers just absolutely thrive on sugar they consume sugar they use it as fuel um and in Radiology actually one of The Cutting Edge diagnostics for cancer is something called fdg positron emission tomography a petct and and the fdg is fluod oxy glucose it's an analog of glucose that the body can't actually break down so the body will take it up like glucose thinks hey there's sugar so the cancer takes it up in large quantities and you light up like a Christmas tree on the scan and the the black dots where the radioactive sugar has been taken up that's it's been taken up by the cancers that's how you see the cancer so cancer takes up sugar at much higher levels than most uh body tissues that's how you're able to to recognize it and so you want to cut off that energy source for that cancer so that's the number one thing and and again that's a very simple thing to do and and oncologists won't even suggest that right now that's just you know that that's just the first step you try to cut the cut cut off the sugar starve the cancer you know the oncologist will say well you know that doesn't do anything or that doesn't work it does you know but it's an important part of an alternative treatment approach uh the next thing I suggest is um prolonged fasting prolonged fasting and it's been shown I just did a a very popular article recently about this uh on my substack prolonged fasting when I say prolonged I mean 72 hours uh you need you need a minimum of 48 hours to show just you know some kind of benefit preferably 72 hours um and and what you're doing is you're you're you're causing changes in in your metabolism um that will impact the cancer uh there's a process in the body uh called autophagy that only kicks in about 36 to 48 hours into a fast and when I when I talk about fast I mean a water fast where you're basically you're not eating anything you're drinking just water maybe a little bit of electrolytes maybe some black coffee or plain tea but that's it right you you want to go into that ketosis and once you're doing you know once you're 48 hours into a fast your body kicks in this process called a toy where it starts to remove damaged components of cells or damaged cells altogether and starts to remove them it removes pre-cancerous cells it removes cancer cells and so on and you know they've done this um the research that's been done uh usually focuses on fat doing fasting with chemotherapy right and it makes the chemotherapy way more effective um it um uh is that would that be the insulin potentiated chemotherapy any kind of chemotherapy any kind of chemotherapy uh it makes it a lot more effective and it also reduces side effects and and one of the things for example is it reduces the need for dexamethasone and steroids because sometimes they'll give you steroids with chemotherapy because you know you can have severe nausea and vomiting and so on so they give you steroids what actually spikes your sugar which actually is feeding the cancer at the same time it's just kind of a you know interesting phenomenon where they're trying to like help you but they're you know they're hurting you by giving you steroids at the same time and so for example it eliminates the need for steroids completely right now the reason why they do research combining fasting and chemotherapy is because chemo is how they make money right and so any if there even is an alternative treatment approach that the oncologists will look at they will only look at it in the context of well how can I make money off this well you combine it with Cho all right but you can do it you can do it on your own like you can do these fasting sessions by themselves you could do 72h hour fast few weeks later repeat the 72-hour fast again and so on and so again you're you're you're hitting the cancer from a completely different angle and perspective it you don't need any supplements it doesn't cost any money right you know you know we get attacked in this space if you're suggesting any kind of alternative treatment approaches you get attacked that oh you're some kind of a grifter and you're selling some product I'm not selling anything right and and fasting is something that everyone can do and it's free and no one's going to get rich by suggesting that you fast right I mean you know the pharmaceutical companies are not going to get rich uh the alternative you know cancer treatment practitioners are not no one's going to get rich by suggesting fasting but it's an extremely important component of this as as I've been trying to piece together the cancer puzzle been able to talk to so many different people with different trains of thoughts you know Thomas C freed was really got me on that whole metabolic aspect and then opening the door for looking at like Finn bendol you Nation winners with her her approach even you know throwing mistletoe a lot of the ketogenic diets and way she looks at it laslo boros with the duum and you know just on and on just being able to package it together so how have you been able to view cancer like in your your experience or idea what is cancer do you prescribe more to the sematic cell theory or genetic what what is cancer in your view you know that's that's a very interesting um that's a very interesting question because there I mean there's a lot of theories right so so for for a very long time um I believed in the theory that well it's it's probably mostly genetics maybe a combination of genetics and environment but you know you get a genetic predisposition of some kind right and then that that LE let's say you know you have a flaw in your p-53 tumor suppressor gene or what have you and so that predisposes you to cancer in the future right because your body already doesn't have a proper way to deal with mutated cells and at some point that's going to develop into cancer and and it's I I think it's it's it's a lot more complicated than that um you know certainly they're finding impaired genes of of various kinds and and people in various cancers they're finding new you know mutations in in lung cancer and colon cancer and and you know that makes it attractive um in in the mainstream in mainstream oncology that's very attractive because if you can design a drug to you know Target a specific mutation or the effects of that mutation then you're going to then you're going to make a pile of money right and I think people have to understand that in medicine money is more important than patience right I mean it's it's unfortunate but but you know it's it's money usually tends to come first you know the sort of the honest Physicians usually get sidelined or eventually pushed out of medicine altogether right and and so everything is about money money money and so but you know again you know I I I do like the metabolic aspect of it I think that that's that's that that's I think that's very important as well so I mean to answer your question you know I don't I don't know what the correct answer is is it a combination of things you know I I don't know but what I do know is that the way cancer is being treated right now um for the most part doesn't work you know I mean if if you can let's say you get a stage one you know there there are certain cancers that they know how to treat fairly well right certain lymphomas um breast cancer prostate cancer especially in the early stages it seems like you know when when when you get the standard oncology approach let's let's take stage one breast cancer right you got the surgical removal and so on um your 5year survival is like 95 98% you know that's that's pretty good right uh but again there there's a lot of cancers where they haven't made much Headway right once you get let's say to more advanced uh like lung cancers or sarcomas and so on um the treatments just suck you know the the response to chemo is is pretty poor long-term prognosis is pretty Co poor things like you know brain cancers G blastomas things like pancreatic cancers uh which still have very poor prognosis you know decades later they just haven't been able to figure anything out and so you know I I really like this this um metabolic aspect to cancer there's a lot we just don't understand um and that's what shocks me about mainstream oncology right now in North America and now this is not the case in other parts of the world in other parts of the world they will try different alternative approaches and you see that in the literature you know they will try medicinal mushrooms they will try things like sour soop or apricot seeds uh or foods with bioactive compounds garlic ginger right um even something like chlorine dioxide for example you know they will try things in other parts of the world that they will not try in North America that they they will simply not touch them in North America right and again it comes down to money can you make money off it can you not make money off it right uh medicinal mushrooms like turkey tail mushroom right or Rishi mushroom uh they won't even look at it here in North America because again how do you make money off it right uh so but but in other parts of the world uh practitioners are much more open in in in combining treatments with bioactive compounds and we're still trying to understand how Those bioactive comp compounds even work right but uh but that's why I think it's it's it's important to to try those alternative approaches and not leave yourself in the hands of a mainstream oncologist who's only going to give you things that big Pharma makes money on and will not really offer you anything else beyond that yeah I think I'm with you I'm I'm with you for but for the the most part I have come to the conclusion based off of so many different facets coming together and seeing uh very early on uh when Lander was diagnosed I was reached out to another uh pediatric cancer patient and uh he he put me in contact with this alternative practitioner and that really really opened my eyes because he was talking about all kinds of things and this was uh 2019 so uh Nicholas Gonzalez his work was right out of the gate and so I'm trying to understand enzymes and coffee enemas and all these things that just seemed way out there but where I have come to through all the different Trails is I I sincerely believe that disease is going to be an energy deficiency or insufficiency and whether that is from toxicities deficiencies some sort of a parasitic overload heavy metals just on and on and on right something's causing the mitochondria to not produce enough energy and things are are just out of whack there's are you familiar with I believe it was 2021 Israel put out a study where every single biopsy contained a fungal presence there's fungus in every single cancer now whether it was there and caused it or if it was a cleanup mechanism or whatever it is have I I don't know but I think that may be part of why so many of these anti parasitics and antifungals have an efficacy in treatment so um I I said all that to say this cancer when I was looking at it in 19 is different from the cancer in 2024 and so I want to get into that so I think from here uh we're going to let you just open up and say absolutely whatever you want whatever you believe and we'll have to have that one uh on another another platform and I'll link to it in the descriptions and all that but it will be censored this conversation on YouTube so with that you take the floor my friend and let's get into what cancer is and how are we going to overcome this disease thank you for joining us on sewing Prosperity be sure to follow along across the social media platforms including YouTube and be 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