Bombshell Interview with Dr William Makis on Using IVERMECTIN and FENBENDAZOLE to Treat/Cure Cancer

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Bombshell Interview with Dr William Makis on Using IVERMECTIN and FENBENDAZOLE to Treat/Cure Cancer
YouTube video by Dr. William Makis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbyuAr4GWlk). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.

[Music] welcome to today's interview on brighton.com I'm Mike Adams and today we're joined by a firsttime guest do William mackus and he has been a prolific uh writer on Twitter or X but also on substack and he is a a radiologist an oncologist a cancer researcher and what what I asked him to come on to talk about is how he is tweeting about the fendol uh protocols and ior meon protocols that some people are using you could say experimentally to uh treat cancer or to prevent cancer and I just want to say as a disclaimer I'm not your doctor uh and also our guest is not your doctor so this is just for understanding and for for studying and researching this topic but uh Dr William mackus welcome to the show today it's great to have you on thank you very much for having me well I'm I'm just thrilled to have you here and I'm so grateful that you are constantly educating people about the subject of iveron and fenben or fendol uh two two you know you could say Pharmaceuticals but icon comes from soil microbes and fenben I think also comes from a natural source originally but the these are powerful substances so please give us uh give us a little intro of what got you interested in talking about these these two drugs and their their applications in human health well I can tell you uh these are considered repurposed drugs and uh they are anti parasitics uh they are used uh for various parasite infections uh they act on different types of parasites so Ivon acts on certain certain groups of parasites fenb benzol acts on other parasites and they are being repurposed right now for cancer um now it's interesting because Fen bendol was discovered completely accidentally it was back in 2017 uh a gentleman in Oklahoma Joe tippens uh gentleman in his 60s I believe was diagnosed with terminal cancer stage four small cell lung cancer and he was sent home to die by his doctors and uh he had a v Veterinary friend of his who said uh listen there's a there's a dog dog medicine dog dewormer medicine that was discovered accidentally to have very strong anti-cancer properties why don't you you know why don't you try it you have nothing to lose and he put together a protocol protocol with this uh Fen Bend medicine and also with Kirkman CBD oil vitamin E um and he cured his terminal cancer that he had basically less than 1% chance of surviving wow and so that was back in 2017 and so this has been known for a few years now uh there is a Facebook group called the fendol cancer support group it has 110,000 members a lot of them are cancer patients a lot some of them are family members of cancer patients so this is this is a large community uh and it works uh in fact there was a group um of Stanford University medical researchers who were so impressed by Fen bendol that they uh found three patients who had taken Fen bendol stage four cancer patients who took fan bendol cured their stage four cancers after they had failed every chemotherapy regimen known to mankind and they published uh this this case series um now what's funny is that they were not able to recommend Fen bendol to these patients because it's not FDA approved right now there is an FDA approved version of it called mebendazol which is virtually identical uh you know unfortunately it goes by the brand name vermox it's much more expensive than Fen bendil but you can now get generic versions of both for you know a dollar a pill and this this is what's extraordinary is that both of these drugs are readily available over the- counter for veterinary use yes example and they're very inexpensive because they're both long off patent so they're the generic versions are readily available uh let me give out your your your Twitter handle it's macis MD that's m a k i MD macis MD yeah show the screen if you would please there uh here's here's your uh channel on Twitter and then you also have the substack which is Maus MD . substack do.com that brings up your substack page here with your articles so and here here like here we go I Reed in fendal testimonial stage for uh prostate cancer patient so one question that has come to my mind in this is why are you so passionate about this topic I mean at at first glance someone who's skeptical might be thinking that you're selling Fen bendol but that's not that's not the case what so what brings you so much passion about this I can tell you um I have uh come at this uh completely from outside of mainstream medicine this is really not allowed in mainstream medicine right now repurposed drugs are being suppressed they're being suppressed uh and let me go to the other one which is Ivermectin Ivermectin uh has a huge body of research in cancer uh and this has come out of people digging into Ivermectin uh for treating covid-19 for example uh we know that it treats covid-19 successfully but as some of us were digging through that research um you know I discovered for example that there is a tremendous body of research of ivermectin actually treating cancer successfully and different kinds of cancer I'll give you an example a couple years ago uh a group of Mexican researchers tested itin against 28 different cancers uh they had you know these these different types of cancers in their lab and they said look we're going to going to we're going to test Ivermectin against all of these 28 different Cancers and they found every single cancer responded to iin now some responded better some responded not as well but all 28 cancers responded to icin the one that responded the best was ovarian cancer the second best was breast cancer and Then followed by prostate cancer and then you've got colon cancer pancreatic cancer and so on you know the various leukemias lymphomas and and so on uh and so there's this tremendous body of pre-clinical research there's research on mice and they actually uh gave Ivermectin to children with leukemia and managed to put two of them into remission these these were children who had very aggressive leukemia they took Ivermectin and they were put into remission for a while you know even though Kemo had failed now unfortunately again iveron is off patent it it went off patent in 1996 U Merc had a patent on it now they're no longer interested in it during the pandemic MC came out and said Hey listen icin doesn't work for covid-19 don't use it and and everybody wondered why would they do that why would they bash their own drug right and uh well I discovered the answer earlier this year it turns out that MC has a 50/50 partnership with Mna and what they are developing is they're developing an mRNA cancer vaccine together uh it's now in phase three clinical trials it's it's a $500,000 treatment once it comes out uh they're first uh developing it for melanoma uh there's now a doc there's now a doctor in Australia Professor Richard scoler who actually developed a brain cancer after taking a number of covid-19 vaccines and he's using their experimental technology mRNA technology this mRNA cancer vaccine to try to treat his brain cancer he's the first person in the world to be getting this experimental treatment from Monna and Merc MC which used to have the patent on Ivermectin and of course we know that iveron had to be suppressed for the MRNA technology to get a green light to get emergency authorization approval and to get approved for the roll out of the covid-19 vaccine so they once you start piecing this together you see the pieces of the puzzle puzzle fall we also know yeah 100% And and our audience is well informed on this point but let me just State the obvious which is that the drug companies are only interested in profit they they have zero interests in human health in quality of life in extending lifespan zero and anybody who who assigns to these large drug companies any kind of humanitarian motivation is kidding themselves they're only interested in profit which means the suppression of lowcost safe readily available treatments and and folks it's not a conspiracy it's a business model it's a business model okay uh so the suppression of this and and also remember the FDA of course suppressed uh ior macton during covid uh they they sent out tweets saying that are you a horse stop eating horse paace and and they were it was later determined that that was illegal for them to to put that tweet out but the the suppression of this uh continues to this day doesn't it even in in the science journals it does and it's absolutely incredible because I have cancer patients asking me every day and they're asking oh Dr marus can you uh can you recommend a Doctor Who's going to prescribe icin for me to treat my cancer um and they're asking because U about a few weeks ago uh there was a paper published it was the first paper in the world uh co-authored by myself and Dr Paul Merrick from the flccc and a and a dozen other co-authors some incredible amazing scientists and doctors from around the world we authored a paper that proposed the first protocol using Ivermectin mebendazol and Fen fenbendazole in the treatment of aggressive cancers and so naturally patients patients are coming to me and they're asking uh oh Dr Maus you know can you can you recommend a doctor in the states who's going to prescribe icin for cancer for me and I usually tell them only if they're suicidal or if they want to see their career finished because because what's happened is that doctors like Dr pier cury and Dr Paul Merrick who recommended and advocates for Ivermectin and hydroxy chloroquin in the treatment of covid-19 they have been stripped of their Internal Medicine board certifications yes that's right this has something that has never been done before in in in the in the history of the United States uh in in in medicine same thing in Canada we had a doctor who prescribed icin for covid back in 2021 uh for three years the medical authorities dragged them through Court proceedings and then slapped him with a $440,000 fine and stripped him of his license for several months I mean this is the kind of persecution we've never seen in medicine and this is over icin something that's a 100 times safer than Tylenol or Advil yeah we are and remember we the public are we're always told that medicine is evidence-based but it turns out that when the evidence doesn't support the profits of the drug companies then the evidence is thrown out and like you say people who advocate for these safer lower risk more affordable interventions they can have their licenses yanked because the the government entities control their licenses in terms of let's say State medical license boards or as you said internal licensing which is done through a a different organization that has its own decision board but they're heavily influenced by Pharma obviously Pharma controls everything in this space but I I I want to ask you you mentioned well two things you mentioned earlier you said that one of the protocols that that man used in 2017 involved also Kirkman uh or either you either said kirkin or turmeric I forgot which one but I want to ask you what natural photochemicals can can help accentuate the effects of ivaan and fendol when used in in these protocols is that is that something that has been uh studied and is is known is termeric one of them well I can tell you there there is a study that has that was done on mice that showed that that vitamin E had a Synergy with Fen bendas and seem to actually shrink tumors better when you combine them together nobody nobody knows why that Synergy works for example I'll give you another example of for example CBD oil uh CBD oil uh kabid di oil is a fantastic molecule that has again a massive body of preclinical research there are at least two case reports of it curing lung cancer and when I say curing lung cancer I actually mean a curing a three or four CM lung lesion completely disappearing uh after maybe 2 or 3 months of just taking CBD oil a few drops under the tongue every day yes this has been reported these were 80-year-old patients who declined chemotherapy they said look I'm too old to take chemotherapy please don't give me these you know these harsh drugs uh and they cured their lung cancer with just CBD oil drops under the tongue for a few months uh it has cured skin cancer so there were patients who were putting CBD oil on their on their skin cancer uh and it basically dropped off after a couple of months and their skin cancer was cured wow we don't we don't hear about these right we don't hear about these cural because CBD oil you know it's something you buy for 50 bucks uh or 100 bucks at most and again there's no money there's there's no money in uh but there's no money in certain cures right and again I would love to see a clinical trial of you know a thousand patients I I believe actually actually Professor Angus from the UK uh did uh a trial of almost 200 patients uh with CBD oil um and about 92% of them had some kind of a positive response whether it slowed down the cancer whether it stopped the cancer whether it cured the cancer sort of people had various types of responses but he published this several years ago and we simply don't hear about this um in the media uhhuh yeah absolutely but maybe that's going to change coming up and I want to ask you about what you see if RFK Jr is confirmed for HHS I want to ask you about that in a minute but let's go back to something else which is the safety margins or the safety profile of these you said it's a h 100 times safer than other interventions uh talk to us about the safety of ion and fenin and also what like how hard is it to overdose and what does an overdose cause uh and I I know that you know typically these are dosed at certain number of milligrams or micrograms per per kilogram uh per day um but some not everybody's great at that math you know sometimes um sure so uh what happens if someone takes too much well I can tell you so uh it's very interesting Dr Pier Cory who's written a book on Ivon and he's done a deep dive into the research of of safety and so on I've I've done a deep dive into into the Safety Research as well and he's gone on record saying that you basically cannot overdose on itin that even if you take 100 times the dose uh you know you might you might have confusion or fatigue uh it's got an 18 hour half live by two days it's completely out of your system uh so you might get tired you might get confused uh you know you sleep it off and it's and it's gone it's out of your system so you can't really overdose an Ivermectin which is when they created the studies to sabotage Ivermectin in the big journals uh they couldn't do it by overdosing Ivermectin uh so so they had to do it by underdosing itin and either using it too late or using not enough of a dose and that's how they tampered with the studies to show that iin doesn't work I do remember that that in Co iin has to be administered very early correct yeah it's it's good to administer it early uh and of course you know you want to there was a dose range so if you underdosed it then you know you might not get the the effect that you wanted yes um I tend to use sort of a little bit higher dose uh when it comes to uh any kind of uh viral infections but really any kind of infections uh in general uh I tend to go towards about half a milligram per kilogram um I believe the lowest was .2 milligrams per kilogram but you know in some of these journals they might have gone even lower and they waited a long time right they waited until the patient was really sick and then they gave icin for and they only gave it for a few days and they said oh look it doesn't work right I mean it was such scientific fraud it was just pure scientific fraud many of these studies published in highly highly respected journals and they did it to sabotage icin they did the same thing to hydroxy chloroquin AB we know they did it we know they did it as soon as uh you know president Trump came out and and had mentioned hydroxychloroquine as an option uh we suddenly had you know these papers come out in the New England Journal of Medicine or Lancet saying that oh suddenly hydroxychloroquine is causing heart problems when 50 years of use there was no record of heart problems with hydroxy chloroquin and then suddenly there were these these questionable papers that had come out of course many of them were then retracted and were you know identified as as fraudulent yeah I recall the Lancet publishing a study on hydroxy chloroquin that the data set for it was utterly fabricated yeah uh created by a company that was run by I think an adult actress and a fiction novel writer or something it was completely insane but th this is the moment when a a lot of people I mean this the co moment this is when Western medicine destroyed its credibility in my opinion and many people woke up and now we we're seeing even even guys like myself who have been steeped in the world of natural medicine and I would never have recommended Pharmaceuticals but now I'm pro- ican proen bendol because I recognize you know the a molecule is a molecule if a molecule is efficacious and not you know not not just sold as a patented for-profit item and especially if it's off-patent and it's being attacked by The Establishment then that alone lends credibility to the idea of looking at this right so I take by the way I take itin prophylactically if I start to or if I'm going to speak publicly for example if I'm going to be around a bunch of people I will take icin a day before the day and the day after I'll do 12 milligrams per day for 3 days and that's worked for me do do you find a lot of people taking it prophylactically as well I do and I'm asked to this question a lot especially when it comes to cancer because people want to take things prophylactically for cancer as well and unfortunately there's not much research right now in terms of prophylaxis for cancer what you describe is prophylaxis uh for let's say you know not getting a a viral infection for example and I mean that's uh you know that's very very reasonable uh 12 Mig is a dose you can't go wrong uh you won't you won't have any side effects with 12 milligrams um I've used it um I've used it any time I feel something coming on like you know like some kind of a flu or coming on um you know my kids have used it uh and they bounce back really quickly uh within a day or they've never been sick for more than a day or two and they're right back to school uh feeling great uh so I think it's fantastic I think everyone should have itin in their home you can have icin Hy oxy chloroquin um you know these are good things to have uh at home you know quatin zinc these were other things that that people used zinc of course an amazing antiviral and then use all that y course hydroxy chorine you know gets the zinc into the cells to to to fight uh viruses and and this is particularly important because I I see they they keep stirring up this influenza h5n1 they keep trying to make something out of it you know they they've talked about disease X they talked about another pandemic so we have everything we need to fight any kind of future pandemic there's there's no need to to Really Panic certainly no need to be considering any any more of the of the of the contaminated mRNA vaccines let me mention also uh shikimic acid is something I took a special interest in for two reasons because it's it's found in traditional Chinese medicine uh an herb called bataa which is the eight the eight armed or eight star a star an I think is what we call it in English uh sh shic acid is very high in that shikimic acid is also found in certain pine needles and I happen to live in Central Texas where uh Lodge pole pine trees grow I think that's what they're called um and and this species is very very high in shikimic acid so I can just go out and collect pine needles make a tea out of it boil it and I can drink anti-pandemic medicine you know yeah absolutely right and it's it's fantastic and and so pine needle tea was one of these uh sort of more herbal medicines that people were using to to protect themselves or to to to treat covid-19 and it's a it's a great one D dandelion rout uh was another one that was popular uh that had ability to it was found to be able to bind bind the spike protein and and sort of uh impair the activity of of of the spike protein so dandelion root uh black seed oil is another one black human seed um one I'm thinking of sweet sweet wormwood or the extract of it artemisinin what's fascinating about emisia anoa is that uh it won the Nobel Prize just like Ivor meon and uh when the pandemic hit the wh actually gave a warning to people not to use emisia anua and only use the synthetic you know product or version of it uh because you know you don't know what you're getting and and you don't know uh exactly people don't know how to use it and so anything that was helpful for covid-19 was attacked we had V we had vitamin D attacked in Canada we literally had the biggest Health provider in Canada Alberta Health Services tell people do not use vitamin D as a preventative do not use vitamin D as a treatment for covid-19 and we know that vitamin D in very very high doses was useful uh and very helpful for Co even very sick Co patients even patients that were you know in the ICU still benefited from high doses of vitamin D they attacked vitamin D they attacked icin we had emisia anoa was attacked Hydro hydroxy chloroquin was attacked anything that P that patients could use to treat themselves and and protect themselves was attacked but it's it's extraordinary that the governments and the health authorities and the medical journals and many of the hospitals and the protocols that were pushed on the hospitals it seems to people like me and our audience that these were designed to cause harm designed to cause uh to maximize fatalities during Co so that they could publish higher Co fatality numbers to scare more people into taking the vaccine for example or scare people into lockdowns or scare people into wearing masks I mean this was the moment in history when the people of of Western Civilization witnessed their governments and their medical institutions weaponized and turned against them is that I mean would you disagree with that or do you think that's what we witnessed or what would you add to that that's absolutely correct and I think there's no better visual for that than when they put sand in the skate parks and they put wooden bars across basketball nets and they put caution tapes around playgrounds and basically forced kids to stay inside instead of play outside like they should have been wow um and I and I will never forget that that visual that was the exact opposite of what they should have done they should have allowed kids to go outside and play play in the playgrounds uh be outside get Sunshine uh get fresh air um everything that came out of Public Health was designed to make people sicker um and and to really run up and I do believe there was an effort to run up the deaths if we look at what happened at um in uh you know the long-term care home home home home settings where you had people who were malnourished dehydrated they were not given antibiotics they were allowed to basically get so sick uh until they were then brought in you know put in the icus put on ventilators put on her dese which destroyed you know their kidneys uh and then they died in the hospital and and virtually all the all of the deaths occurred in the hospital under Hospital protocols you didn't have you didn't have homeless people dying uh you didn't have people dying at home how come we didn't have thousands of people dying of covid in their homes they only died when they got to the hospital well I would say that's because they were they were homicidal that's I mean and the hospitals got Financial incentives for doing so yes in some cases up to half a million dollars absolutely so Dr mackus I mean number one I just want to say thank you for your courage thank you for being a truth tell thank you for all that you've done you know you got my attention on X and I I I've been retweeting what you put out there and I've I've been using icin I've been using fenben myself and I've been acquiring it you know I've been buying it from Veterinary sources I also live on a ranch I have donkeys and goats and goats need a lot of icin by the way because they they eliminate it very quickly I found out so you have to really like hyperdose the goats but uh I use it for dogs uh goats and uh you know I've got chickens and whatever but I believe that every person every person should have a supply of ior and and Fen bendol and and some other things but this is the focus here today and for some reason a lot of people they like they ask you can you give me a doctor who can prescribe it like why would you want to pay $20 a pill when you could pay a dollar a pill or whatever you know what what's your recommendation for or if you can make a recommendation I don't want to get you in any trouble but I've already said I I just buy agricultural or Veterinary use versions is that consistent with what a lot of people are doing today or what are your comments on this you know I'll tell you right now there are websites um I believe there's right to try uh.com for example where you can you can just buy Ivermectin um there are a number of phes in India that people are are ordering the generic versions of ivermectin or fendol or mebendazol from uh it can take a few weeks you know it could take 3 four weeks to arrive but uh a lot of people have successfully been able to get icton like that and there are also the veterinary versions of I and I can tell you in Canada for example we have I mean we have a lot of farmers uh and you know we we had trouble getting iveron I know that in the United States the issue was that you could get a prescription but then the pharmacy wouldn't fill it yeah true that's crazy which which which to me is absolutely insane it's actually criminal um yes but in in Canada we had we had we had a different issue we had no doctor could prescribe it because they would be stripped of their license immediately wow so so people were you know they had to get creative and get Veterinary versions of I and the liquid version of icin is is fantastic yep um some people use the paste uh in terms of cancer you know you need larger doses of itin so that you know may not be feasible uh with the paste for example but you know I've got hundreds of of cancer patients and I'd say about 30 30 30% of them are taking some sort of Veterinary version it's sort of on their own on their own accord uh it's safe I've seen no no safety issues with it at all uh and you know we all do what we can for our health uh and we we try to get access however we can now this is something I think the new Administration will have to tackle the Trump Administration uh with uh RFK Jr um you know as as the head of the HHS um I think it's it's something very very important I believe that in the United States everyone should have access over the counter to Ivermectin and this is you know the human grade Ivermectin mebendazol I think fendol should get FDA approved approval as well there's no reason for fendol to not be FDA approved when you've got mebendazol which is virtually almost The Identical molecule except one atom is different and it's got FDA approval you know that should be FDA approved and it should be available uh it should be available to every American uh I'm really I really believe in this right to try uh where um you know if you're a cancer patient you should have access to to these safe medications and you know despite the fact that they're being repurposed from antiparasitics to cancer but everyone should have access to these I agree uh to me it's unacceptable that that in America you don't have access you have to you have to act like you're on a black market trying to get some secret forbidden medicine that anyone can get at the airport in Mexico uh as much as they want well I know it's it's it's crazy they turn us into drug smugglers just to try to get Common Sense medications when I lived in Ecuador we could walk into any pharmacy and you could buy any any pill you wanted and of course they sold them like one pill at a time also you could just get one one of these uh but same thing's true in Mexico even in Canada there there used to be a lot more availability than there is now but in India iron maon is over the- counter across India and a lot of people use it there and that's why I think that's one of the reasons why they did not have such such a a rate of um you know deaths associated with the the pandemic in in India but I I I do want to ask you about the changes that might be headed our way if RFK Jr is nominated as head of HHS now I think the best thing about RFK Jr is the fact that he knows where all the skeletons are buried or in the case of fouchy that's actual a a literal thing because of his experiments on uh young African-American boys but uh they they literally are dead and buried but what what good things could happen in America if RFK Jr goes in there and and does some really aggressive reforms to to to support Health freedom and consumer choice I mean right now people can buy Tylenol over the counter that's acetam menen that causes extreme liver toxicity especially when combined with alcohol people people kill themselves all the time on New Year's Eve with with Tylenol and alcohol you know that's over the counter so what are your thoughts absolutely no honestly I I think we're we're in a situation right now um and we didn't talk about this earlier but I wanted to mention it because um Dr Peter McCulla and I have been affected by this uh we had a paper um on uh sudden deaths in in covid-19 vaccinated individuals autopsy paper the largest autopsy Series in the world it was censored by the Lancet yep it was then censored by another Journal it was ready to be published and then there was a phone call made to the editor and they killed it at the last second it has finally passed peer review and been published but it's it's taken two years of extreme censorship uh and and and the paper's been pulled several times for no reason other than a political reason and maybe a financial reason from you know pressure from the from the pharmaceutical industry and so this has happened a number of times uh a number of papers have been pulled I've had a I've had this paper pulled with Dr Peter McCulla Dr Peter Mulla Dr Jessica Rose have had several papers pulled uh and it's because these papers were inconvenient to the pharmaceutical industry where there might be some losses suffered by certain pharmaceutical Giants like fiser or madna and to have this kind of science scientific censorship is unprecedented and unacceptable and so what I think we've seen is I think we've seen a corruption uh take over uh medicine in general because we had censorship doctors weren't allowed to give informed consent to their patients about the covid-19 vaccines they weren't allowed to tell their patients about the risks well you can't do that you you you can't have informed consent if you're not allowed to tell patients about the risk of the vaccines because you might cause vaccine hesitancy if you've got a product product that has risks you must disclose those risks to patients and so we need to bring back ethics back into science and into medicine we also need to bring freedom back and what that means is that doctors and scientists have to have the freedom to uh practice their craft ethically um in order to in order in order to have good science and good medicine we don't have that right now we certainly don't have that in the United States or Canada what we have is corruption we have censorship the likes of which we've never seen before we have too much influence of big Pharma uh we have all kinds of retaliation from the medical boards all of that has to stop and and we need what I call a complete reset you know we talk about we talk about the great they were talking about the great reset after you know the the covid-19 pandemic and what they were you talking about was trying to you know get us reset into this kind of dystopian future with digital ID and vaccine passports and all of this and restricted travel and this kind of communist great reset and what we need is a great reset in science and medicine but a reset back to ethical practice practices ethical medicine and really Freedom you know the freedom to do proper science without any fear of Retribution or retaliation from the pharmaceutical industry well effectively what you're describing is that in the United States I I know you live in Canada but in the United States of course with our Bill of Rights uh back in the you know the 17 early 1790s or uh late 1780s when uh you know the the Bill of Rights was being debated before it was finally uh uh you know written and signed you had Dr Benjamin Rush saying that we needed a health Freedom Amendment and that that was not Incorporated but I think that should be the third amendment and the current Third Amendment which is that we shall not quarter uh allow British soldiers to be quartered in our homes I don't think like that's as important as a health Freedom amend so we can we can bump the third amendment put in a health Freedom Amendment keep the second and the first we all obviously need those expand the First Amendment to cover Health claims on natural products so even doctors like you you need to be able to have your freedom of speech if you were to practice in America your freedom of speech has to be protected you need to be able to tell the truth about natural products that work without having your medical license threatened which is exactly what's happened so freedom of speech and and also freedom of speech for nutritional supplement manufacturers that why can't a let's say a tart cherry extract maker tell the truth and link to a government study that says Cherry extract treats gout you know why is that illegal effectively that's crazy so we need that I agree with you I I absolutely agree we need we need I mean that sounds like a fantastic idea a health Freedom Amendment um yeah I I would I would fully support that you know it's amazing right now I'll tell you something uh I'm I'm able to treat patients with icin but I'm doing it outside of the medical establishment and so I'm doing it as a as a health coach as a cancer coach uh because that doesn't have you know strict regulations in in Canada uh and so uh but but but it's it's tragic that I have to uh you know give this kind of help to patients and I'm seeing incredible results I share them on my on my Twitter I share them on my substack we see it in the bloodwork we see it on the Imaging studies we see the tumor shrinking and there's no denying it that their patients are being helped and they're being helped they're afraid to tell their oncologists that they're taking something else in addition to the chemo that they may be taking for example they're afraid they're afraid to speak to their doctors and I have to do it completely outside of the medical establishment uh as their health coach and not as their doctor uh this is this is like practicing you know medicine in like like on the black market it's it's like like like you would be doing it in communism right we can't we can't have that I mean this is absolutely unacceptable well it is and the the cancer industry which I've been covering for over 20 years really praise upon Humanity poisons people for profit frightens people with often false diagnosis of cancer that's a very common thing to like do a mammogram on a woman and then say Oh you have cancer and and you're going to die in 6 months if you don't start chemotherapy and then that same Clinic profits from the sale of the chemotherapy drugs so you have these perverse incentives there and where that woman as you said breast cancer is one of the cancers that responds uh in a very positive way to icton treatment but they don't tell her that option or they don't even tell her her vitamin D may be deficient you have a lot of black women who have aggressive breast cancers because the melanin in their skin is blocking vitamin D production so they're vitamin D deficient almost to the point where if they had a child the child would be born with rickets you know that's how bad it is but the cancer industry won't tell them you're vitamin D deficient they just profit off of them you're you're actually you're absolutely right um every single patient that comes to me you know I asked them about their vitamin D levels and virtually none of them uh know about the importance of vitamin D uh in cancer uh the fact that if you have low vitamin D you have poor prognosis as a cancer patient uh over the long over the long term and I asked them I said well has your has your oncologist tested your vitamin levels for example and all of them say no they've never mentioned it that's incredible they have never mentioned it yeah it's just unbelievable like we don't really have a system of medicine we just we have a system you know the establishment system is a is a is a profiteering racket it's a it's really a it's a criminal racketeering operation in my opinion and I've been I've been railing against this for 20 plus years and now we finally there there's some hope there's some hope of real change here but only after how many millions of people were were Ked killed you know over the last several year years because of Hospital protocols and so on but in the few minutes we have left Dr mackus um I want to be respectful of your time you you mentioned Health coaching is that a service that you offer to people all over the world or how can people get in touch with you to to take advantage of that yeah right now I'm I'm offering it all over the world so I have patients from around the world I have patients uh I have a ton of uh us patients I've got patients in Australia all over Europe uh even in in in parts of Asia as well um I offer it um through my email people can uh message me at uh macus w79 yahoo.com and then I'll provide you know the details uh and so on of what what the package uh entails and it's you know it's very affordable and and I do offer followup as well and I also help people get access to Ivermectin or fan bendol or my bendol um you know what what's what's this has been really beautiful is that other cancer patients have shared with me how they've managed to get access uh to some of these repurpose drugs because it's not easy for the average person you know they go out there they have no idea where to start where where to look for these repurpose drugs and as I said um you know one thing that I look forward to and one reason why I applied uh to RFK Junior's Maha team make America healthy again um at HHS uh and I and I would love to serve um you know in in sort of any capacity any way that I can that I can help is to make these repurpose drugs available make them available over the counter so that everyone has access to uh you know these antivirals uh that have been so effective uh for patients uh I can tell you like I've seen miraculous stories with Ivor magn and we have you've got incredible uh you've got incredible doctors in the United States who who've used who've treated thousands of patients with Ivan successfully they're still being persecuted by their medical boards they're being stripped of their licenses like Dr Pierre Corey Dr Ryan cor Ryan Cole Dr Mary Bowden Dr Peter McCulla you know they're being stripped of their licenses and their certifications I mean that every doctor should be restored fully restored fully compated every Doctor Who got things right during the pandemic you know should be you know restor and compensated properly and maybe put in charge of some important Health position uh because you know a lot of doctors got it wrong and the doctors who rolled over and gave up their medical ethics and gave up their hypocritic o oath um you know shouldn't be in any position of power going forward and and and and I hope and like you said we we have this opportunity this and it's not it's not even a once in a generational opportunity it's once in a lifetime opportunity to fix a system that has been rotten for a very long time uh and a system that should really function for the benefit of Americans well I I've said that the problem with the system is that it's too centralized and the central authorities can easily become corrupted due to money or political influence or some other agenda which is exactly what we saw I don't think uh you you may disagree with me and that's fine but I don't think that governments or States should license doctors at all instead I think that there should be accountability and results for every doctor that a patient can is even encouraged to uh go to a common uh website and Report the diagnosis and the results and the treatments and so over time we would gather a tremendous amount of evidence of What treatments work which doctors are effective you know I mean the the data would be amazing but the industry is not interested in data they're just interested in profits so yeah absolutely and and I can tell you the the the licensing process uh certainly in Canada uh but even in the United States the licensing process has been completely corrupted the the the medical bodies have been uh uh co-opted and and captured yes and that's another problem is institutional capture and that's why I talk about it we need a complete reset we need a complete reset in medicine and science uh because of the institutional capture and you know in the United States you have the three-letter agencies that have been captured you know whether it's the FDA the CDC and and and NIH and so on and so you have problems with those giant Behemoth institutions that have so much influence on how medicine is practiced in the United States but you know we have we have the same kind of problem in Canada with bureaucracies with health Canada being 90% funded by you know big Pharma but all of these medical boards and all of these colleges of physicians in Canada that have persecuted and targeted doctors and censored doctors they have to to be either dismantled uh or they have to be prosecuted I agree because because they took away they took away the voices of doctors who would have put this pandemic fraud and this vaccine fraud to bed very very early on if doctors were allowed to speak up without fear of Retribution and retaliation we would have had the vaccine called out back in 2021 when there were various reports accumulating of sudden deaths when there were reports of carditis being far more common than anybody was willing to admit blood clots when all these problems started showing up in early and mid 2021 if there wasn't retaliation and if there wasn't a gun pointed to every doctor in North America to keep their mouth shut uh you know n this this whole vaccine disaster wouldn't have happened uh and so agree yeah we need we need to we need to disassemble that entire corrupt system we need a medical reset completely agree with what you just said now uh again wrapping this up uh for people to reach you I think the email address you gave was macus w79 yahoo.com yahoo.com okay w79 so so macus m- a kis s w79 yahoo.com your substack is macus md. substack do.com here here's your page here and look you are followed by 56 people that I follow amazing what are the odds um so any final thoughts Dr mackus I mean this has been a great conversation what what would you like to wrap it up with honestly um I just encourage people to to keep speaking out you know I get I get incredible stories I get incredible stories in my inbox and and I'll get stories of people who used my protocols for you know to treat cancer with icin or fendol or mebendazol you know and they used it on their on their animals and their animals are doing better uh or or they use the protocol uh you know because they heard maybe they heard that um you know it's it's good in Lyme disease or in Parkinson's disease so right now I have two Parkinson's disease patients who are improving on icin and have had dramatic Improvement because there's a preclinical study in mice showing that that mice had improvements in Parkinson like symptoms on icin and this all comes from sharing of information the free sharing of of information yes and I think this is so crucial for people to to to speak out we have a platform we have a a freedom platform uh on X on Twitter um I would just encourage people to share their stories a share their experiences uh you never know who's reading who's watching and how other people can benefit from it uh that's why I'm so active on X I'm very thankful uh to Elon Musk and his team I was banned from Twitter for over a year for raising concerns about mRNA vaccinating kids 5 to 11 years old I thought that was a terrible idea and within 5 hours of saying that I was locked out of my account I was my account was terminated and I was you know kicked out of Twitter for over a year just for pointing out there was a study that showed negative vaccine efficacy for these kids when they were vaccinated that they would get sicker more often and which was a fact which which was a it was a scientific study that was peer-reviewed and published and so this is the kind of you know scientific sensorship that went on during the pandemic so I would just encourage people to keep keep speaking out keep sharing your stories uh and you know we're all learning from each other 100% well and and I'll one up you on that I was banned from Twitter I think for six years and I've been banned from YouTube for 10 years so far uh and and it's still it's still going and it's pretty much because of me speaking out against big Pharma by the way so and and vaccines do cause autism in some cases you know it's obvious at this point but do Dr mackus uh I just want to thank you for your time thank you for what you're doing for Humanity I've learned a lot from you I've shared your information with many people and I will continue to do so please keep in touch with us and let us know how we can help you with your mission and just you know God bless you for all that you're doing thank you so much for joining us thank you very much for having me all right thank you