Why Ozone is Good for you & How To Use Ozone Effectively (Jodelle Fitzwater)

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Why Ozone is Good for you & How To Use Ozone Effectively (Jodelle Fitzwater)
YouTube video by Dr. Frank Shallenberger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd-QGjiTd8A). Transcript is the auto-caption track — verbatim ASR, not a certified transcript.

okay well welcome to the give it with jodel podcast i am as usual jodell and it's so wonderful to be talking today to someone who embodies and you'll be able to see why i say that the idea of anti-aging or positively aging like a fine wine we get better with age and today i've brought on the world renowned expert of anti-aging medicine so that he can show us just how we can positively age and get better rather than getting worse dr frank schallenberger has been practicing medicine since 1973 and has been a pioneer in alternative and integrative medicine since 1978 so this is really cool so dr schallenberger promotes anti-aging and preventative medicine and has developed numerous protocols to slow down and even reverse many issues using natural treatments along with conventional medicine and he's authored several books one of which i have right here the ozone miracle so i'm excited to talk to him about that and you can see it's been well worn i've read through it several times um as well as several other books in clinical paper scientific papers and so talking to this guy is going to be such a treat for my brain uh to just get download all his brain with this vast array of knowledge on what i call positive aging or anti-aging medicine so dr shellenberger welcome so i brought you on because i want to talk about ozone therapy since you are the called the father of ozone therapy so tell us in layman's terms can you explain ozone therapy and why it's so maybe beneficial but also why it's controversial and why it shouldn't be well okay so let's start off with the scientific stuff and those are both two really good points uh first of all the listeners want to know the science behind ozone has been around for 130 years we're not talking something that was just like newly discovered five years ago or you know it's a multi-level marketing thing this is some actual science with thousands literally thousands of clinical and scientific papers on it that have been that have been produced literally ever since the 1850s so we're talking about something extremely substantial well documented works great uh i'll talk a little bit about the controversy like so somebody hearing that saying well why why have i never heard of this then i'm good for that so we'll get to that but what people want to understand is basically ozone is pure oxygen at least the way we use it you know when it's in pollution that's different but we make it from pure oxygen we make it right in the doctor's office we've got a tank of oxygen we run that oxygen through a converter box and what oxygen is is it's two oxygen atoms sharing electrons they're in close proximity to each other and they're sharing these electrons that's because a single oxygen atom doesn't have enough electrons and the universe won't allow that to exist so you got to have an equal balance of electrons so what the single one does is it comes up to another single one they get together they get married they share electrons everybody's happy for the rest of their life and then along comes ozone so what ozone is is we pump that o2 molecule through this converter box the converter box breaks the o2s up into o1s and of course like i just said that can't hardly exist in nature so within billions of seconds the 01s go back in though twos again but a portion of them actually a pretty small porsche about about one in every 50 one in every 50 molecules it goes back to o3 so now you've got three oxygen atoms sharing the amount of electrons that make two oxygen atoms stable and that makes this a very unstable molecule it's three oxygen atoms that's an unstable molecule that's what ozone is it's three oxygen atoms it's so unstable we got to make it up right now and use it right now i mean i can't make it up and then come back like a half an hour from now and make it up because it'll turn down the oxygen so so it's instability what makes it remarkable because if i just take ozone if i just take pure oxygen you know and treat people with that nothing much happens but when i take ozone and i treat people with that because of it needs that electron it instantaneously within millions of seconds starts electron movement as soon as i put it someplace an electron movement is what keeps us alive it's what keeps us young and it's what literally powers every single aspect of the human experience is electron movement so you're looking at the very beginning of the whole thing i like people to kind of think about a club clock with a pendulum on it and it's not moving and when you start getting electron movement it's like pushing that pendulum without that electron movement nothing goes and the problem with people is as they get sick it's just vulnerable to illness vulnerable to the old aging process and so that's why ozone's so awesome because you know it comes in and actually corrects the problem that made us vulnerable in the first place yeah and what i had appreciated about ozone is that it is a natural thing like it's that smell that you smell after a thunderstorm and so the earth actually has a way of creating ozone to kill viruses to kill bacteria to kill pathogens and things like that and so talk about the benefits of now when we're doing this pure ozone what it can do inside of our body like what is ozone targeting there's no ozone gas it's not a liquid i could put it in a bladder i can put it in a stomach i can put it in soft tissue someplace i can put in an area that hurts so there's lots of ways to get ozone into the body and depending on where you put it that's where it's going to start working the most common way is with blood so it will take blood and we'll treat the blood with ozone the ozone will instantly change that blood get electrons moving around in that blood then we hang the blood back up run it right back into the patient and that blood circulates everywhere and transfers this electron movement to the entire rest of the body and so you've seen in your practice i'm assuming doing this for as long as you have so many issues resolved with ozone can you talk about some of those things that you've seen be a like a big game changer with ozone yes so um in in essence and i tell doctors this all the time uh i said you know whatever you're doing with your patients it doesn't matter if you're an acupuncturist or cardiologist or whatever you're doing with your patients if you add ozone into this if you're going to get much better results and i say that specifically because for the most part there's some this is there's a few examples where this is not true but for the most part ozone works with something else it it makes the other things work better it doesn't necessarily do it all itself and i like people maybe think about just exercise you know if you exercise and you're in really top shape whatever goes wrong with you it's going to be a whole lot easier for you to get well than if you're in lousy shape and yet exercise itself isn't necessarily going to cure anything but it strengthens your love and since the bottom line reason people get sick in the first place is lack of electron movement we're actually treating the core problem that people have no matter what illness they have so every doctor ideally every doctor should know how to use ozone no matter what their specialty is no matter what kind of medicine they practice and just add it to what they do it will instantly make everything go better so we use it all kinds of cases from cancer to heart disease to macular degeneration to osteoarthritis to mold problems to chronic infections it's incredible the applications that you can use this on yeah i definitely want to get into the mold thing you mentioned since i've been myself have been healing from that but you talk about in your book even helping with the neurological disorders like parkinson's and so is that something that's becoming more prevalent for that sort of treatment program well you know um once again i don't want people with parkinson's to think they're gonna go get some ozone treatments and they're gonna have parties they're gonna need treatment for their disorder first this would be a good example actually because you're going to need treatments for the disorder and as we all know those treatments are somewhat limited they don't do as good a job as you really like them to do if you add ozone in there you're going to get a much better response and so yeah so we have great stories about patients with parkinson's or dementia or just chronically fatigued most of our cases are going to be cases of sort of undiagnosed illness where people are chronically ill from something could be mold it could be lyme could be whatever nobody nobody actually sort of really knows all they know is the patient's sick and miserable i can get a lot of those type patients nobody knows what to do with them and to a large extent the reason that their doctors are not able to help them is because their doctors aren't dealing with the electron issue so we've got that issue or that i mean that's how your body gets well it takes electron movement to stay well it takes more electron efficiency to get well and you can get stuck in this hole where because your electron movement was already suppressed you got sick now you're sick now it's worse how the heck you're gonna get well until you fix that and so in your book you talk about like why we need it now more than ever so in terms of like everyone in general do you think that each body even if they're not fighting something chronic would benefit from ozone treatment of some sort well of course you know and that reminds me i never actually mentioned um why it was that everybody doesn't do this if it's so darn great why why isn't everybody in the whole world doing this so that deserves a really good answer uh first of all the first part of it is a lot of people are okay not so much in the united states i'll give you that in the united states we maybe have two 3 000 doctors using ozone therapies in the scale of things here that's not that many but in other areas of the world particularly in europe and in the middle east ozone is just used all the time and the reason it's not used here is it's a sad reason the reason it's not used here is it doesn't generate income it's not an income generator so so you know i can take a patient that has any viral disease in the world i don't care any acute flu of anything and cure them in two days with those out there this is being done in um italy and published studies on this and you know it's been done in china all over the place but it's not being done here in the u.s because they won't approve it but they will approve a four thousand dollar dose of rem de severe they'll approve that but they will not approve 130 dose of ozone therapy it just doesn't make any money and the sad state of affairs is in our medical system is really built around money yeah and so you got to kind of go out outside the the standard system it's not likely they'll be doing it for a long time until maybe the people just flat out demanded yeah it's really unfortunate because myself um yeah experiencing ozone for the first time as part of my mold treatment was a big needle mover for me like i immediately after the first round was like this did something it killed you know that's what i wanted to ask you is does it validly kill those mold spores because that's what i felt like had happened i had felt like there was a huge die off of mold spores after my first um iv treatment and so and i felt worse for a day and then i got better and then the next few times i did the ozone it was like my body just flourished after that so it was like i definitely cleaned house with something so you know talk about the the fact of how it does affect something like a mold well okay so oh here here you have a person and they're exposed to mold and they get sick then you got another person that's living with them exposed to the exact same mold and they don't get sick precisely so let's understand from the get-go for the most part for the i know there's certain environmental issues we have to attend to but for the most part the reason we get sick is not so much because there's something out there going to jump on us and get us but because when that thing out there jumps on and gets us somehow we don't have the wherewithal to defend ourselves now why that would be is always a combination between environment how we live and genetics so we know that there's a subset of people that are going to be extra have problems with mold that's just the way it rolls and other people not and that maybe very much may have some genetic issues to it could have some lifestyle issues to it as well but the point is that the reason somebody is going to have such a tough time with mo so for example i'm imagining you've got the mold and you know about the mold and you're going to start some of the detoxifying treatments and maybe some of the anti-fungal treatments and all that kind of stuff and you're sort of kind of getting better but you're not crossing the finish line quite and the reason that you didn't quite cross the finish line until you got ozone is because ozone stimulated something that was lacking in you that nobody else was paying attention to now what was that something here's the cool part i have no idea what it was our bubbles were designed to heal themselves all i know is when i put ozone there they do a much better job at that i'm not sure what those darn electrons are doing but they're stimulating something that was not getting stimulated in that patient i don't want the listeners think we know a lot about the science or what it does because we do but the reality is you know why it makes this person better and they have such a fabulous result uh the answer is honestly i'm not quite sure but it does have a lot of marvelous physiological effects on the immune system well documented on the circulation system well documented on the detoxification systems well documented on the mitochondrial system our energy generates all this stuff is well documented so we know it does a lot of stuff so we're not going to get too shocked when somebody gets better because we can see all the things that it can do yeah and i appreciate your honesty because it's so true like maybe we don't know all the facets but i'm of the same mindset as when you give the body the proper conditions it will heal but part of that is finding those natural optimal conditions that help heal so you know you mentioned the the fact that you take the blood out and then you ozonate it and put it back in so that's one form what are some other forms of ozone therapy that are available even down to something you know i've got over in my water bottle here here's some ozone water so you know talk about the different forms of ozone treatment that all right very good question so uh it's a gas and so you inject it in pretty much any part of the body here's where i have not injected ozone i haven't actually stuck it in anybody's eyeball okay i haven't stuck it in anybody's brain and i haven't stuck it in anybody's internal organ like a heart or a liver or anything like that every other place on the body has been fair game so i you know i put it in intestines put it in stomachs i can inject in soft tissues i can go into gums i can go into joints around the mouth i can go into the spine i can go to the lower back i can go into all the joints in the body i can go into the bladder i can go into the vagina i can go into the pelvic cavities i can go into the milk or the abdominal type cavities i can go to any soft tissue there is so i can inject it in all those places i can do kind of like what you're doing and that is you take water and you bubble ozone through it and what will happen is the gas gets trapped in that water very similar to the way co2 which is a gas gets trapped in a soda pop same idea uh and to bubble the oat through if you drink the water right away you're actually drinking gas so that's one way to get it in another way and it's a great way for the stomach and the liver because it's going straight to the stomach and the liver another way would be to give it in the rectum as in as you would in an enema or a suppository so medicine we use a lot of suppositories uh we i mean we use you can get medicine through the rectum because it gets absorbed immediately so you put it in that way um you can apply it directly to the skin so if you've got a rash or a skin bite or even a snake bite or whatever you might have on your skin you can take the gas and there are many different ways but you can expose certain areas or even the entire body to the ozone on the skin and it will get absorbed through the skin because it comes into contact with the skin cells and immediately starts pushing electrons around and and that gets conveyed it's like a domino as soon as you start taking a electrons over here and start making them move they start moving electrons all the way in the other side of the body almost instantaneously so you can't put it through the skin uh you can take ozone drops put it in the eye we will inject the teeth we inject sinuses with it ears if you've got ear problems it's it's pretty much incredible just the only thing i've done is eyeballs and brains so then that begs the question then um is there a way let's say somebody does need to treat their eyes like part of my biggest symptom with my mold was i developed these red puffy irritated eyes so is there a safe way to apply the gas in some manner you know blowing it on the eyes or applying some sort of ozone water drops yeah so the water drops are great so it's not quite as convenient as the gas but it's a darn sight less irritating so i would recommend that but so if my patients need to do something i'll give them like a 5cc syringe and i'll tell them to put about a cc of normal saline in there that's salt water that's suitable for the eyes and then i'll tell them to fill the rest of the syringe up with ozone gas and it'll just shake for maybe 20-30 minutes and the gas will get trapped a lot of the gas will get trapped in that water they can then shoot those drops in the eye you got to do it kind of right away because remember the longer the ozone's in the more quickly it's going to turn back into oxygen right you have that electron type but you got to use them right away but it's really amazingly refreshing good for all kinds of dry eye infection inflammation types of conditions and you were saying all these different body areas that you had injected ozone are you talking just a direct injection of the gas right just you're taking a syringe and you're injecting it right in there so something like with rheumatoid arthritis would they see a difference that was actually my very first case i learned how to do this by going to germany back in the 80s and one of the things they mentioned was rheumatoid arthritis and uh at that time by the way ozone kills germs i i don't think i said that but it kills germs in order for it to kill germs you got to get it on direct contact with the germ uh so uh so you got to be able to get that gas exactly where the germ is and a lot of rheumatoids have bad uh infections in their joints and that's why they've got the rheumatoid it could be mycoplasma is the one that's most commonly referred to but it could also be strapped it could be something called nigeria there's different in bacteria that can grow in these joints so anyhow the germans told me hey just shoot some gas into the knee and you'll kill all the bacteria and you should cure him up so sure enough after i got back from germany he shows up on my doorstep but some lady with really bad rheumatoid and so i just shot her knees up and uh the next thing you know i'm seeing like just about everybody on her street bad knees they didn't have roomba toys at all but but you know the word got around pretty quickly that wow she could hardly walk and now 24 hours later she's out walking around like there's nothing wrong yeah and i love that story because i heard you say that um before and one of her neighbors had osteoarthritis and had come and said and you said you know what have you got to lose you're already like almost not walking let's just try it and see what happens and she got better as well so it was like there there is so much to this and so now that people are kind of thinking about it what can somebody expect from a treatment like what are they going to fee are they going to feel anything are is it going to hurt you know what well depending on the treatment so if it's a systemic treatment like you were getting you know or where we're treating the blood or we're trying to treat the whole body yeah the other probably only five percent of people are going to immediately notice something from that it's it's a cumulative type of thing so in that way i like to help people it's very similar to exercise so we know exercise is going to make you strong and make you wonderful and everything's going to work great but you don't just go from lousy shape to great shape overnight yeah starting gradually and it's over time it starts doing its wonders oh systemic ozone therapy is like that you don't you know you more or less start off easy and you're training the patient to tolerate it better and you're moving things up uh so that takes more time the other things like if i'm injecting into a knee or into a body cavity or something like that it might work instantaneously so you might see something just immediately yeah and i love that you mentioned the cumulative because like when i first had my and now mine was an iv but it was just directly the gas going in it wasn't the blood pulling out and going back in um and so you know the next day i'm like okay i'm fine and i slept a little better that night then the day after that was when i hit the wall like i had to take a day and just relax and not do anything because my body was had experienced a die off and so it was cumulative it didn't happen all at once and so i think people can be prepared for that and then after that the subsequent treatments i flourished it was almost as if i got better with each treatment i got more energy with each treatment my body responded better with each treatment i was able to do more of the ozone with each treatment so um to that effect though what is a typical you know protocol for ozone would and i know i think i know what your answer is going to be but also like how long how many how much is the frequency you know what what is the protocol for starting an in general uh and and you know that you know everybody's there so you got to come up with the recipe that's right for that person in general this is a pretty safe statement to me if you've got a chronic condition that's been going on for a while that person we're going to probably want to start off lower doses more frequently okay uh and that may be twice a week to give you an idea if you've got an acute problem like for example you're suddenly coming down with a bad case of the flu that's going to require high doses bang a whole bunch of them right now so and it will work right away too so it varies this depending on you know how long the patient's been sick and go you know what kind of illness they have typically speaking once or twice a week for most cases okay awesome and then so they've done that once or twice a week and then what's how long are they doing that is that you know ten weeks is that six weeks what does that look like in your opinion yeah uh i would say that once you've had something like 12 to 14 treatments you're going to be seeing some okay that's enough to uh see some mm-hmm i agree and then as far as like someone that is wanting to know am i better like is my you know perhaps it's lime and they're thinking you know how do i know when i'm better obviously the symptoms are going to be a lot less but how do they know when they can titrate down and would that look like once a month would that look like every other month and maybe to that effect you're probably a pretty healthy guy maybe you have a regimen of just maintenance ozone what would that look like well for me i i do ozone treatments all the time it's sort of obvious uh i mean you know i've got the equipment there what the heck i got the nurses and the equipment the whole thing i might as well just do it so yeah i do give myself a pretty good treatment like once once a week as a rule uh i don't know that uh you know that's practical for everybody but if everybody could it'd be wonderful i can't tell you that much but uh like that book you were just showing the ozone miracle uh you know that i wrote that specifically because at some point i you know start to realize you know what this stuff is just way too good for just doctors to have people ought to be doing this at home they could probably fix most of what's going on with them they just added ozone to it and i'm thinking about some guy out there that's uh say he's got a heart problem he says the car cardiologist and cardiologist is you know doing this this this and this that guy would do so much better if he just got a copy of the book got the ozone machine and started givings it home so i really like the concept of uh you know doing that and adding that in and so you recommend people can actually do this at home like you work alongside a company that offers these ozone machines can you tell us about that sure yes um uh yeah so you know i wrote the book it's called the ozone miracle here it is there it is it's basically a it's designed for lay people in the first part of the book i give them uh uh give them sort of an education about what ozone does and how it works and blah blah blah but after that it's sort of an indications thing you just look it up if you know if you got a sinus issue you got a flu you got a cancer or whatever it is you can look it on up in there and it'll give you some ideas of how to self-administer to yourself and i don't expect that people are gonna you know just doctor themselves you gotta be seeing the doctor but again whatever that doctor is doing there's no contraindication to adding this in there it doesn't get in the way of literally anything any more than breathing does so it it people people can just absolutely follow that book and whatever their doctors are giving them they can add that in and the results are going to be just a lot better well and absolutely they can follow the book because like you said it is a simple read it's you've made it to where if i want to look something up i can easily find it it's not a real thick book too so you can easily get to the point and find out what it is your treatment would look like and what your options are and you even give resources in the back so i think it's great and um i was mentioning how you know i had that down day where i was down after i got my first treatment and that's called you know that herxheimer reaction can you talk about like that a little bit with ozone do you see that a lot or is that not something you see frequently you can see it uh and it's not necessarily a bad thing right what i would like to um remind my patients is that in general if you get a natural treatment so it's not safe if you if you take a medicine and you have a bad reaction you know normally the doctor's going to say oh yeah you can't take that medicine but with natural things that's not not quite the case if you take a natural therapy and you have a bad reaction that typically means two things number one that was a really good therapy for you but you got a little too much of it right right yeah so uh you know yeah so every now and then if i misjudge and i give a patient more than i probably ought to if they're gonna have a reaction like that night you know i try to remind said i'm sorry i just gave you a little too much but the reality is you're gonna get over it you're gonna come out of it better anyway and next time i'm gonna adjust the dosage better so you don't you don't have to go through that again it doesn't have too often but it can happen what about with thyroid issues because like um part of you know someone who's attacked with like a mold toxicity is that really tanks their thyroid and mine had that happen as well and does ozone help with thyroid issues have you seen that yes so thyroid is so central to the to electron movement that it's just incredible uh so if i'm going to put ozone into a patient and it's not working so well one of the things i better start thinking about is what's the condition of the the thyroid isn't there it's probably not going to work so well and i'm glad you brought that up because one of the problems that we do see today is that doctors all of us have been trained in medical school to determine thyroid functions based upon blood tests and what i can absolutely tell all the listeners is those blood tests are going to miss about 90 of our patients who don't have optimal thyroid function they are not sensitive enough to discover an abnormal thyroid function except if it's like so bad the patient ought to be in the hospital then they can discover it but by and large they got missed an awful lot of thyroid dysfunctions and if they do and they get the ozone and it's not really working as advertised that could be a problem because thyroid is so central to electron movement that's good to know so if somebody does have kind of a negative reaction or just not a reaction nothing happens that is good for them to go maybe i need to look at my thyroid a little bit more so um what are your thoughts on like the the how it affects weight loss have you seen anybody do ozone and then their body actually responds better to weight loss you know i have i can't say have any uh examples of that i just never really got into weight loss per se you know i don't recall that uh there are any published studies on weight loss it is a metabolic stimulant similar it's you know another another little phrase i like to tell people it's basically exercise in a bottle okay good it has the same effect on your system with this electron movement that exercise would have so to that extent yeah could be very helpful if somebody look if somebody's on a weight loss program and they're doing whatever they need to do for their particular case to get their weight into better control guarantee you they will have better results if they add some ozone therapy in there but all by itself i'm not looking at it as something that's going to make you lose weight and so in your opinion where does someone start like if people are listening to this where are they going to start with their okay i'm really interested in ozone like where do i start there's two resources that you can go to two websites primarily one is called as oxygen healing therapies therapies will be plural so oxygenhealingtherapies.com and that tells you a lot about ozone in there and they do list a lot of doctors and and tell about their training credentials and all that the other one is the american academy of ozone therapy and we list doctors under there uh that have been know reached a certain training status in there and that one is aaot american academy of ozone therapy and that's a dot u s okay so both both of those places will give people a way to find doctors that have been trained on how to do this properly yeah that's actually that second website you mentioned was how i found somebody in my area so yes it's a great resource and i'll put both of those links in the show notes for people too um so you being the kind of this anti-aging medicine expert what are your other favorite ways to anti-age well okay so uh you know what i'm gonna just emphasize to to to the audience what i like to emphasize to my patients and that is you know what this isn't a magic kill scenario you know i'm not gonna if dr is not going to come up with this bottle and say oh yeah this build just take this bill and you're just it'll slow down the process dramatically yeah and i'd say that pointedly because that's all you hear these days somebody's selling something it's supposed to slow down the aging process uh it would be nice but obviously it's just not that simple um but it's simple it's just not that simple uh it's kind of a lot of what your grandmother told you about how to take care of yourself uh i wrote a book called bursting with energy where i really go into this uh and the central key to the aging process is your metabolism how you process oxygen and so that's the central key so you want to get that one dialed in you want to make sure you're processing oxygen and moving those electrons around very well as that's your core now how do you do that well a lot of it's things people already know you know you you get enough sleep you get enough rest you also get enough stress by that i mean like exercise so you've got to get enough stress then you've got to combine that with enough rest and that could be different for different people now you've got you've got to get your nutrition obviously dialed in yeah and this is not so easy because you know person a might need 50 times more vitamin b6 than person b so how the heck do you know that so you might you might need a little bit of help for somebody to kind of help you out there but you got your nutrition uh you got your basic lifestyle stuff you know how do you deal with stress how much water do you drink how many contaminants are in your environment uh and uh and then you got hormone replacement and i would have to say these are the big issues so you want to get your your mitochondria dialed in that's the uh that's the part with the electron then you want to get your nutrition dialed in you want to get your lifestyle dialed in uh and even if you're under 50 it might be you know low on thyroid but get your hormone styled in and replace them between all that it sounds like it's a big deal but it's not really you know it's like a lot of things once you get it dialed into your life you've incorporated it into your life people like me and so many of my patients just considered perfectly normal to you know have a regular routine where we take really good care of ourselves yeah so then i have to pick your brain about your favorite ways to take care of yourself like are there supplements that you um daily are just enamored with like you just really know they're a needle mover well one one that one that you know i know is great for me is uh is some actually something that i made up about 25 years ago something that i call quick start the detox powder combined with the uh other elements so i've got some immune stimulating herbs in there i got some detoxifying herbs i got your basic uh uh you know vitamins and minerals and such like that in there and you just take a scoop of that throw it in the water i know that's good for me because if i don't take that i'm not i'm gonna feel it within five six days okay so that one i know i also like vitamin d as just a routine protector for virtually everybody you can check your blood levels but probably you need some i like a little vitamin a like throw that in there uh fish oil i'm a big proponent of the epas and the dhas that you can get in fish oil and other supplements too and for me i have to say the number one important thing is staying uh having a really good fitness program a really good cardiovascular program that i will adhere to and it's part of my routine and i do not miss that you know i got to do that and i think that for me and i could tell you that because i've been times where i got real lazy and didn't do that and then other times when it doesn't and it's night and day you know so i really promote that kind of aerobic fitness defeat yeah well i love to hear that because you're talking to a fitness trainer here so it's like that's how we get our fix what is your favorite modality of exercise what do you do daily oh gosh recently uh you know what the uh the power plate is you know yeah yeah yeah the the vibration yeah i love it yeah it's about it's a whole body's vibration it vibrates vertically it's got some special technology in it uh uh and you can set up the amplitude and the frequency and all that kind of stuff but that thing is pretty darn remarkable so i like that and i you know i've got the package i got the rowing machine i got the ski machine you know so you don't get bored with one thing i can move over to something i'll try something else and now i like to you know do the crosstraining thing where i'll do one thing for a while and maybe do another thing for a while just keep it moving around and then i test my fitness level one or two times a year just to make sure it's dialed in and between all that it's it's pretty easy you know people should know by the way it all we want to do is stay fit and healthy you know i'm not trying to win a marathon if i were trying to win a marathon i'd be training two hours a day i'm not trying to do that i'm just trying to be a healthy guy that doesn't get sick and lives a long time has a nice functional life and i can do that in a half hour three times a week that's right i mean you do not have to have this edible exercise program that maybe some people are envisioning you can do it very quickly if you know what you're doing and do it in a focused way well absolutely exercise is medicine too and you know i i kind of coach people on why don't you exercise to the effect of what you're trying to do do you ride horses exercise for the muscles that benefit that do you love to run exercise you know lift weights cross-train so that you can be a better runner maybe you love to sail well what muscles are you going to need to go sailing you know support those things in life that you love versus just trying to you know hit it hard every day and and destroy your body because you can do a lot of bad with exercise too so so as we wrap up here i also want to ask you about you have a nebulizing protocol which i have started doing as well because of you and i would love for you to inform my listeners on using a nebulizer and how that can benefit your body as well nebulizers are pieces of equipment that have been around the medical business for i don't know decades and what they allow us to do is they allow us to take a liquid and put it in a tiny little form of tiny little bubbles that allows us to inhale the liquid normally of course you can't inhale the liquid you cough and choke but when you get it done into tiny little bubbles you can inhale the liquid so doctors use it for medicine so if i want to deliver medicine to somebody's body one way of doing it is to put it in a nebulizer let them inhale it and then they'll they'll have that effect it'll get into their bloodstream and that will have the whole effect well knowing that uh about oh 10 12 13 years ago something i was talking to a patient and she was telling me uh you know i get so nervous every time i put the asthma medicine in my nebulizer and i thought i told her well yeah that's because it's getting absorbed into your bloodstream it's going to your heart making your heart get real rapidly it's like caffeine that way and after i finish talking to her i i realized wait a second that's a great way to get get medicine into people's bodies that's natural too so i thought well what would be really good natural medicine to get into their uh bodies through the lungs i thought about ozone but ozone is somewhat toxic to the lungs so i decided to stay away from it some hydroperoxide put it in the nebulizer and have people just inhale that so that's going to get them basically two benefits one is they'll get the hydrogen peroxide into their bloodstream in a way that's similar to a systemic treatment of you know any kind of electron mover so it's going to be good for them anyway the other thing is as it's going down through their nose and they're back to their throat and down into their lungs hydrogen peroxide kills things so it kills toxins it kills bacteria it kills viruses seems like that would be a perfect way for somebody to treat a flu for example [Music] so that's what i've been doing ever since then we should play it around with the truck try to get the doses right the concentrations right and finally we got it down dialed in pretty good now so now i just tell my patients listen you have to have a special solution of hydrogen peroxide and you have to have a nebulizer just keep that in your house and if you ever ever think you're coming down with a cold or a flu or any thing just pull out that nebulizer and just breathe it once an hour and you know while you're awake you don't have to do it 24 hours a day but just once an hour on your way and after a couple few days you'll see the cold will just go away do it do it in conjunction with all the other stuff that you're doing but throw that in there and that's a great way for problems yeah so what's what would be like you have a maybe a small nebulizer what would be like your favorite recipe like what are they putting in there as far as like the you mentioned there was a special hydrogen peroxide yes so there's a special solution the nebulizers you can just buy online right uh i like that they have these little portable models yeah that's what i have you know battery operated or will connect yeah connect up your computer they're really easy to do they're cheap they're like 30 40 bucks something like that and and just so easy to do and they don't make a lot of noise like the old ones used to and so you just buy that online and then you got to make up the solution and that's a special type of solution um let me let me just tell patients how to make it up a little bit uh they can also call my office i'll mail it to them okay but if you want to make it up yourself what you do is you go online and you buy some what they call normal saline and then you buy 34 hydrogen peroxide and you take one cc of percent hydro 34 hydrogen peroxide and put it in 100 cc fat in your nebulizer yeah it's very small amount of fluid is all you really need so yeah it's i have i really enjoyed hydrogen peroxide in mine anyway i've seen a lot of good benefits just nasally from that as well so you've been more than generous with your time i want people to be able to find you what would be the best resources for me to put in the show notes for people to find you and follow you you have a really great newsletter i think everybody should sign up for too so can you tell us about that second opinion um one thing that people tell me they like a lot about it is the same thing i like a lot about it and that is i reference everything i don't just like you know find stuff online and just start printing printing it so you know everything's fully referenced from scientific journals either that or it's personal experience that i've seen right in the office so it offers an awful lot of good alternatives to people that just try and keep people up to date with that newsletter so that they can take care of themselves at home because i i want all the listeners to understand do not depend on the medical system to take care of you that's not what it's designed for it's designed to put you together after you break yourself stay well so you don't ideally you should never need the medical system that would that would be the goal we're going for okay uh but so i try to put things in that second opinion newsletter that will help people take better control of their health and their uh their their bodies and and such so they just don't get sick and they get better faster it's called second opinion newsletter so you could just go online google dr schallenberg's second opinion newsletter you'll find out how to get it uh the other thing i would admit to you is if you wanna uh you know get to my website my website's really easy to remember it's anti-agingmedicine.com antiagingmedicine.com there's a lot of info on there a lot of videos on there and things like that yeah no that's fantastic so i'll put all that in the show notes too and thank you so much um we just we had such a great conversation i hope we can do this again sometime because i can see that you're a wealth of knowledge that we can all very much learn from and embody what you do as well so uh yeah anytime uh jodell and you know i i think this internet connection of mine here there's some there's a lot of wind out here i think it's been not so good i don't know if it's me or it's you but anyway uh yeah so anytime always glad to get the information i'm like a librarian come in come into my library you don't mind the excessive blue light because i have blue blockers for you oh there's some sort of schmutz on this one so with so many options um on the swanwick website i thought i'd show you some of the different fits and show you just how cool blocking blue light can be and stylish at the same time my favorite are actually the cat eyes so i like those the best like i could like go to a sock hop monkey so it's cool you can actually be stylish and be blocking the blue light at the same time with swanwick sleep glasses or schwarnies as they're called now it's not just for adults okay so here i have little my daughter's little blue blockers obviously they're going to be a little small on me in case you want them in blue or pink they also have pink on the website she likes her purple one so so i think if i really wanted that i really wanted to get the benefit of blocking as much blue light as possible simply okay i think that's really gonna do it as far as yeah okay so there you have options now these here these are the fit overs that fit over like when i wear my glasses i'll put these on and they fit over so for people that wear glasses there's that option then for 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