Establishing the Narrative Early - Hunter Kozak Part 2 - #75

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Establishing the Narrative Early - Hunter Kozak Part 2 - #75
YouTube video by Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSS3QaIl_Io). OPINION COMMENTARY by Baron Coleman (Baron Coleman (@realbaronpodcast)) — one commentator's contested analysis of the Charlie Kirk assassination and the State v. Tyler Robinson prosecution. These are his own assertions and theories, NOT the court record, NOT established fact, and NOT endorsed by profoundd; some make unverified allegations about named individuals. Archived here, attributed and lane-separated as commentary, so the claims can be weighed against the primary record — the tyler-robinson-trial hearings and filings in this same collection. Inclusion in this archive is not evidence of truth.

Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm looking and I uh No, we're still on day two. Still on day two, ladies and gentlemen, of Erica Kirk not explaining whether the ASU academic records are incorrect or whether her long-standing story that she graduated with honors from ASU is incorrect. It cannot be both are correct because the academic honors suggest she didn't do it. She didn't graduate Sumakumi. She didn't graduate magnum. She didn't graduate. Come loudly. Echo. I don't believe there's an echo. I think you're lying. There is an echo. Multiple people are saying. I don't know what could be causing such a thing. Oh, please. No echo. You just your stuff is off. Okay. No echo. All right. I don't know what could be causing uh an echo if there is one. So, I don't I don't think there is. I only have one audio source. Okay. So, I don't know what's I don't know what's going on. I have no idea why Erica Kirk has claimed variably Sumaumladi and Magnaumladi in different places. Daisy finally got the records uh out of Arizona State University. We showed them last night. Not only is there no double major in international relations, there's also no honorary degree. There's no suma kumladi. There's no magna kumladi. There's no kumladi. Now, uh, someone who did graduate with an honorary degree is, um, or with honors is Tyler Storm Boyer. He did graduate cumladi. So, we know that the kumladi exists. We were able to double check that, but we were not able to find Erica Kirk. Not able to find Eric Kirk. So, um, I don't know. I don't know how long we'll have to wait on that. Someone on Twitter, someone on X asked me, "Why do you worry about that? What does this have to do with it?" It has to do with her being deeply dishonest. I'm telling you, I have found so many things I've held back. Do you guys understand the damage we could do if that's all we were setting out to do? Find every little nitpicking lie she's ever told? I have absolutely enough to bury her on the honesty thing. I think the academic honesty goes to right to the heart of who she is because it's demonstrable. It's demonstrably false. So anyway, we'll get to all that. Um, interesting show today. Interesting show today. I hope when you hear the open. Here's what I'm hoping. I hope when you hear the open, you understand what we're trying to accomplish today and yesterday. I hope you understand what we're trying to accomplish yesterday and today. And It was very important for the TPUSA Fed slop narrative. It was very important to get out in front of any opportunity someone might have to say, "Hey, I don't think that's the way it happened." It was very important to overwhelm the airwaves, overwhelm social media, overwhelm everything with this consistent and constant narrative that it was Tyler Robinson from the Losi Center, a single gunshot to the neck, the 306, he turned himself in, his parents turned him. It was so important to overwhelm everyone with that narrative. So when you hear the open today, I hope you get an idea of what happens. I hope you get an idea of how difficult it is to face that avalanche of narratives. So we're going to talk about that in a second. I I I draw attention to the academic dishonesty in in my opinion because that's something so easy that they could just demonstrate. Take a picture of her degree. It'll say it on the wall. Take a picture of her degree. Don't show it to me. Um you know, or send me a transcript from ASU. I'm fine with that as well. Transcript would be fine.Um, but as we showed yesterday and and I had a few people say they didn't quite understand it. I could go back through it. I mean, it's super easy. It would take 10 seconds. So, let me just do this real fast because I had several people who said, "I didn't really understand what you were trying to get at uh with this whole thing." Here's what I mean by this. You see this woman right here, Sadi May Adameck. This is how easy this is going to be. This is the Sumokum Lai designation. These are people who graduated 3.8 or better. This is what Erica claims on her LinkedIn page. You see this Satie May Adameck? If you do a control F for adc, you're going to see her in two places. You're going to see her here under Sumakum Laudy and you're going to see her also down here under her normal degree under economics. But when you do Erica Lane France, you only see her down here with the plebs. That's it. That's all it is. I made it maybe I made it too complicated yesterday when I went through this. If you have I'll do it with Tyler Ber. He's actually I think in three places. If you have because he was on the uh border regions here, but here he is under the cumy designation. This is Tyler Berer down here. Here he is under Kumai. And if you go to the next Tyler Boyer, he's down here with the plebs. One of only four people to graduate with a degree in Russian. As weird as that is. And so what I'm saying is Erica Kirk is not being honest. At least these records seem to indicate she's not being honest. She's claiming to have graduated Sumakumi and the records do not support it. The records don't support it. And if there is evidence that she actually did graduate Sumakumi, I'd love to see them. I'd love to see them. So that's that. That's that. Second thing, I get this comment a lot and so I'm going to pull it up out of order. I hope you consider short. I'm not going into the comments right now. I'm going to do the opening in just a second. But I want to address this while we're all here together. I hope you consider shortening your show to 2 hours max. I will not consider that. That's not a consideration. So, stop mentioning it. That's not a consideration. 3 hours is honestly hard to keep up with. Then don't watch all three hours. Watch an hour. Watch two hours. Watch 30 minutes. Watch 45 minutes. Watch five. A shorter stream would make it easier for audiences to stay engaged. This isn't about being easy. This is a high IQ outfit. This is not about easy. We don't do this because it's easy. Watch the full show and fit it into our schedules. Go Max. Go Max. Indeed. And and and I appreciate your concern, but no, I'm not going to tailor the show because if I do two hours, someone else is going to write in and say, "You really need to do it in an hour. Candace does it in an hour." Well, now I'm at an hour. And somebody says, "You really need to do 30 minutes." You know, uh Jesse on Fire does his show in 30 minutes. Okay, now I'm at 30 minutes. You really need to do eight minutes. I mean, what? Why don't I just do the show I do? You're welcome to tune in as long as you can. I would add that the show is an an a show in three parts. It's three acts. You get the opening that lasts 10 to 20 minutes. You get sort of the content section that's 45 minutes to an hour and a half usually. And then you get the the supers at the end, the the Q&A, the the review, the uh the discussion, the back and forth with the audience. And if you want that, tune in for that.If you want the content, tune in for the content. If you want the open, tune in for the open. But I'm not going to change the show. The show's done pretty well for itself. Uh for particularly for a show most of you never heard of a year ago. It's done pretty well for itself. I will add that the the godfather of podcasting himself, we've kind of nicknamed him the Godfather. He may not have been the first, but he is certainly over the last 10 years, 15 years the most successful. Joe Rogan, his show averages three hours. Lex Friedman will go eight. John Ryan, three, four hours. These guys get millions of views. I'm I'm pretty sure we're fine here. I appreciate your input, but I'm not going to listen to it. I'm not going to listen to it. All right, back to where we were. Back to where we were. I am actually in a really good mood. I don't know, that may not come off, but I am in a really, really good mood because I think we've got a pretty good show lined up for you tonight. So, let me get into the open. Remember, as you're listening to this open, understand how critical this open is to the narrative that Tyler Robinson had anything major to do with what happened. Remember, keep that in mind as we do this open. Keep that in mind as we do this open. All Here's your opening statement. on January 18th, 2019, there was a seemingly minor confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. Almost nobody outside of the immediate vicinity likely noticed it. In a normal and honest environment, it would have remained that way. Instead, the incredibly minor incident exploded into a national controversy that encapsulates how quickly a false narrative can form and be established as fact, even though the narrative is in reality fiction. At the center of the national hysteria was a young man named Nicholas Sandman. Sandman was a 16-year-old junior from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky. He quickly and unfairly became the unwitting face of what many perceived as youthful racism and entitlement. The incident involved Sandman and his classmates. Many were wearing Make America Great Again hats and t-shirts after attending the March for Life in Washington DC. Sandman and his classmates encountered among others Native American activist Nathan Phillips and a group of black Hebrew Israelites. What began as a fragmented video clip quickly coalesed into a damning media narrative that portrayed Sandman as the aggressor in a racially charged harassment episode. The fuse that exploded the false narrative into a national story was incredibly short. The video clip had surfaced on social media that evening that depicted Sandman standing face to face with Phillips who was drumming and chanting. Standman in his red MAGA hat appeared to smirk while his classmates chanted and cheered around him. To viewers, without context of the entire event or even a longer clip of the video footage, it looked like a privileged group of white teenagers mocking and surrounding an elderly Native American veteran. If true, this obviously would be a perfect and catastrophic storm of racial insensitivity amid America's polarized political climate during the first Trump administration. This small clip went viral almost immediately. It amassed many millions of views on platforms like Twitter and YouTube. Celebrities, politicians, and even journalists piled on condemning the students as symbols of Trump era bigotry.For example, actress Alyssa Milano famously tweeted about Sandman's disgusting behavior. Former CNN host Reza Alen suggested the minor child Sandman's face was punchable. He was a 16-year-old kid. Major media outlets scrambled to amplify this narrative. As you can imagine, they did so without waiting for additional context. CNN ran segments labeling the encounter a mob mentality incident where the students harassed the veteran Phillips. The Washington Post published articles describing the boys as surrounding and even taunting the elderly Native American with headlines emphasizing the MAGA hats as emblems of division. The New York Times framed it as an explosive convergence of race, religion, and ideological beliefs, drawing parallels to broader national tensions. Even the students own school decrieded Sandman's conduct and issued a swift apology based entirely on the initial footage. The rush was driven by the clip's alignment with pre-existing stereotypes. You had a white Catholic Trumpup supporting teen as the antagonist in a story of minority oppression. As the media outlet Vox noted, Vox was a thing at one point. As the media outlet Vox noted, it became the nation's biggest story, a microcosm of identity politics where interpretations clashed and inherent uncertainty in the footage itself. Yet the actual facts painted a far more nuanced picture that defied this simplistic framing. Longer videos totaling well over an hour and captured from multiple angles began to emerge in the first 24 to 48 hours after the incident. These longer videos revealed that the confrontation did not at all begin with the students targeting the elderly Native American. Instead, the Covington group of school students had been waiting for their bus when they were aggressively taunted by the Black Hebrew Israelites. Black Hebrew Israelites, if you don't know, are a fringe group known for provocative street preaching. The Black Hebrew Israelites hurled insults, called the teens crackers and school shooters, and hurled gay slurs, gay slurs at the teens. The group even threatened the teens with violence. In response, the students began chanting their school cheers to drown out the abuse. Sandman, later described this tactic as an explicit attempt to deescalate without engaging directly. Phillips, the elderly Native American, who initially claimed he intervened to diffuse tension between the groups, could be seen in the longer video, continually pounding on a drum and approaching the students. He walked right up to them, stared them directly in the face, stopping mere inches from Sandman. Contrary to initial reports, Sandman did not block Philip's path or initiate the standoff at all. In fact, the evidence was clear when it was finally seen in its totality. Sandman stood still. He maintained what he called a nervous smile in an attempt to avoid escalation. Phillips initially had told the media outlets like the Washington Post that he felt blocked and even feared for his safety. These and similar statements were prominently featured in the early coverage. However, the full foot the full footage showed precisely the opposite. It was the students who were blocked. Further, despite being reported as fact early on, the video was clear. The students did not chant anything like build the wall or hurl any racist slurs. Again, even though it was reported as fact. Despite these revelations, the initial narrative had already taken root. The initial narrative had momentum.It was fueled by confirmation bias and the speed of digital dissemination. Media outlets like CNN and the New York Times issued updates and editors notes admitting the need for a fuller picture. But the damage was done. Sandman and his family began receiving death threats. There were online mobs calling for doxing and even expulsion. Covington Catholic High School closed temporarily due to safety concerns and the students faced widespread vilification. The fallout was so severe Stanman had to turn to legal action to clear his name. And this was despite the full video being available for review within a couple of days of the incident. In February of 2019, Sandman uh filed a $250 million defamation lawsuit against the Washington Post alleging bias that relied on Philip's unverified claims. Similar suits followed against the uh CNN, NBC, and other broadcasters who aired the coverage. Federal judge initially dismissed the Washington Post case, ruling the articles protected under the first uh articles were protected under the First Amendment. Sandman of course appealed. CNN later uh settled for an undisclosed amount followed by the Washington Post and then NBC. These outcomes validated the claims of journalistic malpractice. Critics argued the media prioritized a politically expedient story over verification. As Reason magazines Robbie Sov wrote, the outlet's sins were compounded by continuing to malign the teens even after the full context emerged. An investigation launched by the boy's school exonerated the students and found no evidence of racist conduct. Yet, despite all of the facts in his favor and despite the lawsuits and despite the settlements, the initial narrative that Nicholas Sandman and his classmates had been racist aggressors continues to linger in public memory. Such is the power of early narrative formation. So, why did the narrative form in the first place? And why did it persist despite contradicting facts? Well, for several reasons. First, the viral clip fit a bias that was already present. This is especially easy to do when incomplete information is sort of hammered into familiar tropes like white privilege and victim uh the victimhood of minorities. As the Associated Press put it in a piece analyzing how the coverage got the story so terribly wrong, the response turned vicious because it so perfectly fit the prevailing white privilege narrative. Social media's algorithm-driven outrage amplified this. These algorithms can be gamed as they reward sensationalism over nuance and certainly over accuracy. Second, the ideological echo chambers also played a role. mainstream media leans left on a lot of social issues and these left-leaning mainstream media outlets jumped on the story and leaned really hard into the progressive angle. There's also this 24/7 news cycle. It in it incentivizes speed over accuracy. In its post-mortem of what went wrong in the story, The Atlantic admitted the media botched the story as outlets rushed to use the edited footage to support their own biased interpretations. This story certainly isn't the only time this has happened. It's not the only time the media has drilled into the public consciousness a story that just isn't true.And but for the existence of the longer videos and clear audio that exonerated San Man and his classmates, the entire world would have accepted the narrative that the teen boys were wrong to act in such a racist manner towards innocent minorities caught up in their virulent racism. That would have been the narrative. In fact, because we have the longer footage and because the boys were in fact exonerated, the entire incident exemplifies how media narratives can defy facts yet endure because of emotional appeal and institutional inertia. Sandman, who for a short time exemplified the nearly perfect villain, eventually was vindicated, but the scar remains. The Sandman saga is now a cautionary tale to be sure, but it also illuminates how easily media narratives can be set in stone. And without the availability of bulletproof evidence to the contrary, the Sandman saga is illustrative of how quickly fiction can be cemented as fact. And that is your opening statement. And here's why I I've been looking for a time to do the Sandman saga, but here's why it matters today. There was a rush very early on after the Charlie Kirk assassination. There was a there was a mad rush to cement a narrative. The narrative had many facets. One, this was a lone gunman. This was a lone gunman. Security was very tight in and around Charlie Kirk, but security on the outskirts was very lax. So that was kind of that you had to have that narrative cemented in order to have this lone gunman possible. So that's number one. The second narrative was Charlie Kirk got shot. You had to have people say it over and over and over and over and over again so that it became fact. Even though as you look closer at it, it doesn't make any sense. Certainly not with a 30 out six. But if you if you rush out of the gate and you immediately nail that down, he was shot. He was shot. He was shot. He was shot. You even see Tyler Robinson's defense attorneys conceding in pleadings that he was shot. I think it's a huge mistake. Huge mistake. So you had to have lack security on the on the outskirts, even if it was tied up front. You had to have the gun because then you have the lone gunman and you And the third thing you had to have is this political basis for the shooting. You you you couldn't have this idea that um we didn't have a motive. We had to have a political motive. We had to get as we always do. We had to get the divide the country into left and right. You see this most not blaming boomers for everything, but you see this a lot in the older generation. They love to talk Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats, the lefts, the lefts always blames the rep, those dadgum rasly Republicans. The the older Republicans always blame the Democrats. All those dadgum Democrats. You'll just never believe what they've been up to. Anything that goes wrong, it's the other party. Their party can do no wrong. The other party can do no right. The reality is much more complicated than that, much more nuanced, much more complex. But if you can get people to rally into their respective bases, if you can get people to run out there on behalf of their respective parties. So you you get on camera a bunch of lunatics. You get on X and you find the worst of society out there celebrating the death of a 31-year-old father of two. You find out their politics are leftwing and you blame the entire left for that mentality. See, it was a leftist. And then you dig the right in. This is what the left does.They're out of control. They're nuts. And so you begin to dig this down. You begin to really drill down on these three these three facts. You have to have a left versus right narrative. You have to have motive, a political motive. And you have to have a lax security measure on the perimeter. We saw all three of these themes immediately kick into overdrive right afterwards. We'll talk about some of them tonight. Now, I hear your feedback. I always listen to your feedback and I got some feedback on last night's show and I'm taking it into consideration tonight. That's why I'm giving you a little more explanation early tonight before I dig into the content because I hear people saying, "Hey, it's a little confusing. I don't understand the role Hunter Kak played." Well, we'll talk about it. I don't understand who these peripheral players were and why they matter. Why did his dad matter? Why did his granddad matter? We we'll refresh on that. And then we'll go in tonight and we'll talk about some of the uh the left and right originally. Let me see here. I had this flowchart pulled up if you remember. I'll go ahead and repull it back up here because we'll we'll talk about the rest of but I had this flowchart pulled up Here's Hunter Kak. Hunter Kak was the last guy. He's right here in the middle. He was the last guy to talk to Charlie Kirk. He was the one that asked the question. Tonight, we'll answer how did he end up as the last guy who asked the question. There's an answer to that. We know the answer to that. It's on the record. It's conveniently been kind of cast aside, but we have an answer for how he ended up asking the transgender shooter shooter question at the exact moment Charlie Kirk was taken down. We have the answer to that question. And we know now from last night why his dad matters. His dad is a producer. His dad is a Hollywood type. He comes from Hollywood. That's why we talked about Elliot Kak. They understand production. They understand media. They understand narrative. They understand these things I'm telling you. His dad Steve works for Jimmy Kimmel. We'll talk about Jimmy Kimmel tonight. Jimmy Kimmel's aired on many stations, local ABC stations by NextStar and News Nation. We'll talk about them tonight and then we'll get down here with Jeb Jacobe, Phil Lyman, Tiffany Barker, and Tiffany Beldine, uh, Taylor Baldin. We'll talk about these tonight. But the reason we're doing this is because we have to examine, if we're going to overcome it, just like we talked about with Nicholas Sandman, if you're going to overcome a narrative that you believe is fiction, you have to show how the narrative was set in place to begin with. We have to go back to the basics. That's what we're doing. We have to go back to the basics and we're going to do that. We're going to do that. Um, so let's open by figuring out how did a random 28-year-old tick tocker end up as the person the last person Charlie Kirk spoke to. No, I don't want to take your 10-minute survey. So, this is a September 14th article in US Weekly. Who is Hunter Kak? Five things to know about the Tik Tocker who was the last person to talk to Charlie Kirk. And we slide down here and we see Kak, who runs a political Tik Tok uh account, was approved by Kirk's team to ask the political commentator a question at the event and ended up being the second person in line.Kirk was shot soon after Kak's question about gun violence in the United States, making the young influencer the last person to talk to Kirk before his Kak's question was approved by Kirk's staff ahead of the event, meaning Charlie Kirk's staff was aware that Hunter Kak was going to ask a question When they heard he's going to ask a he told ABC a staff member he disagreed with Kirk and had a question prepared. According to the influencer, he was told he would be the second person in line to pose a question to Kirk. This is relevant information because it begins to chip away at this narrative that it was totally random that Hunter Kak ends up asking a question about trans shooting violence at the exact moment Charlie Kirk is taken down and the narrative will begin to form that it had to be it had to do with trans violence. It had to do with a trans storyline. Because again, the official fed slop narrative is that Tyler Robinson, who was living with a trans roommate, was frustrated by the political atmosphere Charlie Kirk was fostering around the trans community, and he wasn't going to take it anymore. Well, you know who else was frustrated about the political atmosphere that Charlie Kirk was fostering around the The two were related in that respect. Now, it would be totally random if Hunter just got there early, camped out, didn't tell him what question he was going to ask. There was no context for how he ended up in that line, and it was just a total coincidence that they happened to be asking that question at the exact same time. That would be weird, but it would be a total coincidence. But if you start to look at the totality, look at the 1 hour plus long video that Nicholas Sandman put out and you start to see a different story emerge. No longer do we have this random occurrence. We have a planned event that took place. The planned event that took place is, oh, we have a guy that's going to ask him a trans violence question. He Now you begin to see how this narrative begins to be banged out that this had to do with ch trans violence. You get to see that this narrative really starts to take shape very early on. I mean at the moment of the big bang itself, this narrative is already being put into place. It's already being laid in concrete. And as the Nicholas Sandman story shows us, once that narrative is in place, it is very difficult to shake it loose. Nearly impossible without bulletproof, and I I use that on purpose, without bulletproof evidence. To the contrary, Nicholas Sandman was lucky. Somebody was rolling a video tape for an hour. Tyler Robinson is not so lucky. There is So, let's go to an interview There we go. Let's go to an interview. Um with Hunter Kak. Show you here what he tells. 60 Minutes. uh told 60 Minutes that Kirk's team had preapproved his question for the event and he was placed second in line to ask it. He said he feels a weight in being the last person to have spoken to Kirk. So again, he told 60 Minutes that Kirk's team had Now let's go to the 60minute recording itself and you can see the date of the 60inute recording. I think you can see the date. Yeah, right there. You can see that this 60-minute recording was dated on the lower right hand side of your screen right here on September 17th, 2025. So, we're inside of a week. There's two names here that they're they're interviewing. Hunter Kak is one of them. He's on the left over here. And there's a Jeb Jacobe.We'll talk about him in just a moment, but this is the recording for 60 Minutes where he tells 60 Minutes that the Kirk team had preapproved his question and placed him second in line. So, no longer is it a random occurrence. We've lost the random occurrence aspect of it. That's out the window. But when that random occurrence fact flew out the window and nobody talked about it, it got lost and it didn't become part of the lore. Here we are five and a half months later and most people don't know that that question was preapproved. So that's that's the Hunter Kak part of it. That's kind of a recap of last night's Hunter Kak part. I want to remind you real quickly >> Hunter Kzak's cousin works for Channel 5, which is not again not a news channel 5. This is a blog. This is a a YouTube channel. This is him. Notice on the Chiron down here, it doesn't say Liam Kak. It just says Liam, and he's the C5, Channel 5 pre-production manager. But it doesn't say Liam Kak. It just says Liam. And again, we talked about last night that if Liam Kak is the guy on camera covering the Charlie Kirk Memorial, and this is footage from the Charlie Kirk Memorial, we can go around and see all the footage they took from the Charlie Kirk Memorial. This is him interviewing people. That's a com that's a commercial, actually. Um, but you see uh this is kind of a prepackaged event. I have no idea why this guy's in a ski mask. I don't watch this channel, so I'm not sure. But you can see he's going around the memorial. He's interviewing people. He's talking to people. But when it comes time to introduce him for the camera, when it comes time to put his name on the Chiron, he just goes by Liam. He doesn't go by Liam Kak. Again, part of the notion that we don't want necessarily to point out the Kak connection to Charlie Kirk's death. We don't want people drilling down on the fact that, well, wasn't that convenient. Wonder if that was pre-planned. No, no, we're going to keep that part out of it. So, there's the Liam component of it. There's the cousin that popped up. So, if you haven't seen last night's a great show, you go back and watch it. But I'm just giving you a little bit of a context here. Now, we're going to introduce a few new characters. Now, we got to get into a few new characters. The first one we're going to get into is a guy named Chansen Kak. Chansen Kak. This is um this is Hunter Kak's little brother, Chansen Kak. Chansen Kaku uh has a normal life. I mean, just normal teenage life. But there's this prom photo here. Chansen Kak is at a prom and he's there with a woman named Taylor Beldine. They've got a few pictures together. They look like they had a great time. Great looking kids. I'm sure they had a blast. Not accusing Chanson of doing anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that this gal, this Taylor Baldin knows the Kak family. She knows him. We'll figure out if that matters in just a second because Taylor Beine sits down in the immediate aftermath for an interview about the Charlie Kirk shooting. And I will play a clip of it here now just to give you an idea of what they talked about. It's important to note that this interview is on a company called News Nation. You guys remember um when we were growing up the Cubs played on WGN? I'm pretty sure News Nation is the successor entity to WGN. We all had if you had any basic cable, you had WGN in your house growing up. I was a nationwide station.It was about it was out of Chicago and they played all the Cubs games. I'm pretty sure News Nation But here is just a little bit of this is Taylor Beldine on the right. We'll talk about uh this woman on the left here in just a moment, but I just want you to see that in the immediate aftermath of the Charlie Kirk being taken down, this young girl who is connected to the Hunter Kak family by way of her brother is one of the witnesses that is trotted out over and over and over in different media outlets in order to begin to establish the >> all the kids and they they made us all leave. Nobody fell to the ground first. Then we stood up to run out and people just yelled, "Charlie's down." They shot Charlie. Charlie's down. >> Tiffany, at what point did it register with you that it was actually a shot? >> Uh, it probably took three seconds. >> Again, we're establishing very early on he was shot. No question about it. They don't know anything about a 306 yet. They don't know who did it, but they but we're still already in the very early phases establishing this reality. Charlie Kirk was shot. And if you remember the very earliest indications, even within 26 seconds of the Big Bang, you have Terrell Farnsworth doing selfies to a camera saying, "Charlie was shot. They shot Charlie. They shot Charlie. They shot Charlie. He's dead." This was something that had to be pushed into the public consciousness immediately. Immediately. They deployed. There was a deployment of a lot of witnesses who just echoed this over and over and over and over and over. You may not have even realized you were falling victim to to Nicholas Sandman being labeled a racist because those are the only facts you had. But if you look back on it, did you see anybody in those initial few hours or days establish he was shot? Or did you just get told over and over and over he was shot? Did you just get told every time you turned around that shot Charlie Kirk had been shot? It was on every news channel. It was on every newspaper. It was on every Twitter feed. It was just a constant echo chamber. He got shot. He got shot. He got shot >> because it was silence and then people just started like screaming and crying and and people fell to the ground. It kind of the reaction was like and you kind of think when you're know and we'll testify that the power of God prophesy that he's coming back. These are the last gonna be more >> I wanted to play this part. Hold on. >> So now you now you have to to layer in this right versus left this religious narrative. So here is Tiffany Barker who we'll talk about in just a moment. But Taylor Baldin will talk, but I want to play this part of her talking real fast >> happened. But I do know and will testify that the power of God is real. It is real. And it gave me instant peace to know that God is over all of this and to know that it's all a prophesy that he's coming back. These are the last days. These are calamities. Charlie gave his entire life testifying of Jesus Christ. His last tweet, Erica's last tweet is all about Jesus Christ. And that's what he wants us to do is turn to Christ. So when people right now are looking, who's the next Charlie Kirk? Where's our hero? Where's our hero? We have him. It's Jesus Christ. And Charlie told us that the entire time his whole life's mission was about Jesus Christ. >> And again, if you don't recall, there was this instant basically God wanted Charlie dead.God's going to I mean it was it was an unbelievably powerful narrative that was coming out. I think it was a little manipulative but I wanted to play that because it is part of the narrative formation. But now they go to the younger girl and they ask her what she heard and what she saw in this. I want you to just listen to her version. >> From that moment >> I my initial thought was just shock. I I was so scared. I was like oh no it's a I was thinking it's a gunshot. But then I was thinking it's in Utah. So it's maybe just a firework because no one was dropping to the ground just yet. And then everyone started screaming and freaking out. So I knew it was a gunshot and I was so scared and I had no idea what to do. And >> so how did she know it was a gunshot? Because people were screaming and freaking out. So I just knew it was a gunshot. I just knew it was a gunshot. We'll come back to a little bit of what she had to say in a little bit because there's a second thing that sort of bubbles to the surface that we'll we'll circle back to in just a little bit. But I'm just giving you an idea of the type of people they were running out to do these interviews. There was a very tight-knit group of people. There was a very tight-knit group of people. For example, the woman you heard from on the left, we know how we know the woman on the right. We're well aware of how we know her. We know her because she went to prom with Hunter Kak's brother. So, there's a connection between the last person to ask the question to Charlie Kirk about trans violence at the exact moment that we're told a guy mad about trans violence is shooting Charlie Kirk. So, we've got that connection. That's how the girl on the right's connected. How about what about the woman on the left? Where did she come from? Well, her name is Tiffany Clawson. So, I will show you or Tiffany Barker, excuse me. I'll show you real quickly who Tiffany Barker is. This is her speaking at another event, the greatest manifestation of the Lord's power, miracles, Sisters of Liberty. Well, if you slide down here, we find out that Tiffany is the sister of Natalie Clawson. Natalie Clawson was Phil Lyman's running mate for governor. She was going to be the lieutenant governor if Phil Lyman had run. if Phil Lyman had run won, excuse me, the um the election for governor. So there she is. So the woman on the left is connected to Phil Lyman via her sister. The young girl on the right is connected to Hunter Kak via his brother. So what we have is as we're establishing this early narrative, we have tight control over who is in a position to articulate this early narrative we're seeking to establish. Remember, we want people to know he was shot. We want people to know the security was such that somebody could easily get into a position to shoot him. And we want someone to know that it had this political motive and this religious outcome. Very important to establishing the narrative very early on. So that was Phil Lyman's running mate. If you don't believe me uh that the sister was named the running mate. If you don't believe um well just trust me. I could pull up the the website but it's a news site and they are cancer. I mean they're just absolute death. The popups everywhere. Videos start rolling. It's news sites and car sites. If you have a car a used car or a new car website, your site sucks. I guarantee I don't have to go to it. It sucks. And if you have a news site, it sucks. I don't have to go to it.It's terrible. I can tell you already it sucks. Now, so we've gotten a flavor of the type of people they're running out. For the sake of time, let's just assume these people did a lot of interviews. They did them with News Nation. They did them on 60 Minutes. They did them on Fox News. They do a lot of these news hits. But you remember on the 60 Minutes interview, on the 60 Minutes interview, it wasn't just Hunter Kak. There was some random other guy there with him named Jeb Jacobe. I have that clip of 60 Minutes right now with Jeb Jacobe and Hunter Kak. I will play that uh now because I think it's important that we have this random guy who ends up on 60 Minutes. That's a that's a hot property. I mean CBS isn't what it once was, but it's still CBS news. Here is CBS giving Jeb Jacovi some air time >> at the event. He was part of Turning Point USA. >> He meant an inspiration to me. I watched his campus debates where he was able to communicate with other individuals in a pretty professional way when it came to debates about pretty much anything. And I just found that admirable. >> Yeah. Hey, Charlie. >> Hunter Kak, who would identify himself as a liberal, was there to debate Charlie Kirk and tragically was the person who was speaking with Kirk at the very moment that the shot was fired. >> Hopefully, we're gonna have a little bit more disagreement. >> Yours was the last question that Charlie Kirk ever heard. >> Yeah. I don't there's a strange amount >> you know when I see this I think what are they doing together? Like they they other than the fact that they were both at the event they really don't have a similar reason for being on 60 Minutes. Honor Kak has this outside outsized role. He was the last I've got a two-part series named after him yesterday and today. He was the last human being to talk to Charlie Kirk. That's a huge deal. Put him on 60 Minutes. Let's see what he has to say. Jeb Jacobe was just a guy who was there. He didn't talk to Charlie Kirk. He was just there. Why is he sitting next to Hunter Kak? What is his role? Well, let's figure out if we see him some other places. Um because we might see him some other places. Here's one place we see Jeb Jacobe. This is immediately after the shooting. You have Jeb Jacobe here on the right. You have this Phil Lyman. We'll talk about him in a little bit. Here on the left, we're going to have to do a different show on Phil Lyman, but we'll introduce him tonight. This is Phil Lyman here on the left. This is Jeb Jacobe on the right. This woman here counts down 1 2 3 go. Or 3 2 1 go. I don't remember which. And then he goes into full acting mode. This is this Jeb Jacobe. He begins to lay the narrative down that Charlie Kirk was shot. This is a video that went absolutely viral. We'll show you that as well. But watch this take place. >> I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. >> Watch Phil Lyman's head as this guy emphasizes I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. He has three emphatic syllables. Watch Phil Lyman's head as he says these three syllables and see if you can see what Phil Lyman's doing as he says, "I saw >> I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. >> But we'll let it continue playing because you you got to see the different angles of this. >> I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. He collapsed in his seat. He fell over to the side. He was carried off. >> What are they trying to establish by this? He got shot. I saw him get shot. Do you remember Jack Pasobic was very early on on Twitter?I saw Charlie Kirk get shot by a leftist. I saw leftist shoot Kirk. There was this consistent drilling into your head of this narrative that it was in fact a firearm and it was in fact a bullet and it was in fact shot by a leftist and it was over trans violence. This all was an important narrative to drill down immediately. This had to be put into place. I'll play it one more time, then I'm going to let it continue going on. But watch his head as he does it. He almost mouths the words. Two, three. >> I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. >> One, two, three. >> I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. >> He collapsed in his seat. He fell over to the side. He was carried off. >> He had blood on his arms. He had blood on his shirt. He was dragged off and carried out of the venue. There was a gunshot that rang out. >> You okay? >> I'm No, I'm not okay. I saw someone get shot today. >> Yeah. I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. He collapsed in his seat. He fell over to the side. He was carried off. He had blood on his arms. He had blood on his shirt. He was dragged off and carried out of the venue. There was a gunshot that rang out. >> You okay? >> I'm No, I'm not okay. I saw someone get shot today. Is that a little weird to you? It seems a little weird to me. It's It It seems a little pre-planned. Maybe it seemed a little rehearsed. He's sitting there normally and then he's not freaking out. He's not huffing and puffing. He's not pacing back and forth. He's not animated. He's just sitting there while the woman counts down. One, two, three, go. I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. No, I'm not okay. I saw a man get shot. Like, I'm expecting him to go into like start throwing his excrement at the at the screen. But you see why they did it. You see what's happening here. the You're not supposed to see the rehearsing. You're not supposed to see the countdown. You're not supposed to see Phil Lyman. I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. You're not supposed to see that part. You're just supposed to see that second part where it's just, oh, I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. It's crazy. He got shot. Did they tell you he got shot? He got shot. There We'll talk about everybody's first impression, whether or not they really thought it was a gunshot before the narrative coales and why maybe it was so important to get out ahead of this and make sure we released a lot of footage from the scene in the immediate days afterwards establishing he did in fact get shot. We'll see this because there are a lot of people at the scene who seem to not think he got shot or at least seem to think they didn't hear a gunshot. We'll hear we'll we'll we'll look at that later. Just pause for a second because we have more we have to because here we see a different version. I guess we can call it a version. This is before the incident. This is before, not the incident. This is before the video we just saw. This is Phil Lyman's belly here on the left. This is Jeb Jacobe here in front of us with the black backpack, the red shirt, the white ball cap, and this is our countdown lady here in the red shirt, brunette hair, and we'll watch the exchange here between Jeb Jacobe and Phil Lyman. I >> just left that gun up top. I was right down into this building and was walking through the door and like boom boom right behind me. There was one shot that I heard one shot >> again. Phil Lyman, who was also there. Phil Lyman was there. He said, "I just left. I heard boom boom." And he snaps his head around. Said, "I heard one shot.It was one shot. It was one shot. I heard one shot. >> I just left. I'd gone up top. I was right about this building and I was walking through the door and it's like boom boom." Right behind me. seems pretty insistent that it was one shot and he seems like it's an important fact. maybe he's there now. Um, hang on just a second. Here is Jeb Jacobe one more time. and we're going to see him one more time. This is from Adam Bartholomew's famous Life is Driving video. For those of you who remembered me in the very early days of the Charlie Kirk investigation, Adam Bartholomew actually came on with me to talk about his video. He was extremely aggressive and shady and it was weird, but I'm not going to talk about any of that tonight. I'm not accusing Adam Bartholomew of being involved in any way whatsoever. Sure, he was just there by total chance, but I want to play a little bit of the footage he caught. Now, the audio lags a little bit here. It's not me, it's them. But this is Jeb Jacobe once again trying to give his version of events and then I just realized I'm pulling a baron. It Guys, this is this is we're too far into this. I will ar You guys will see immediately what I've been watching as you've been watching the side of my head here. Uh but I I want to I want to point out this is a good opportunity since I screwed up. Anyway, I want to pull out pull out got eight kids. I want to point out that um that he asks a clarifying question. Adam Bartholomew walks up to him and says, "Did you see what happened?" And the most important part of this entire clip to me is that Jeb Jacobe asks a clarifying question. Are you recording? So, watch the exchange here between Adam Bartholomew and Jeb Jacobe. >> Did you guys see what happened? >> Yes, I saw him. Are you recording this? >> Yes, you're live right now. Well, we're we're recording. I don't know if we're live because of the cell service. >> Hang on. >> Standing in probably the third Okay. I was standing from probably the third row in the bottom. I saw him. I heard the shot ring out. I looked to my left and then I looked over to my right. I saw him slump over in his chair forward. He slumped over. He had blood coming from the left side of his neck down his shirt and he slumped over and he was carried off. So you have this very strange exchange. This is a very strange exchange. You have um on the one hand Adam Bartholomew trying to do a journalistic job at this moment and figure out what did you see? What did you see? And then you have him ask this clarifying question. Are you recording? Why does it matter? There's a man asking you what you saw. Who cares if it's being recorded? Is that going to change your opinion? Is it going to Then he starts telling the story in some detail. He starts telling the story in some detail. And the story goes, not only this time did I see him get shot and I saw blood. I saw him slump over. I saw his eyes. I saw he's really laying into the narrative, but I saw him get shot. I saw him get shot. He's repeating it. He's repeating it. He's repeating it. But we have this weird moment where other people come over and they're like, "Hey, we're not talking about this right now. These are campaign volunteers or these are event volunteers from TPUSA from Utah Valley University.They come over and say, "Hey bud, we're not doing this." Now, I don't know if there was some sort of an informal agreement where they weren't supposed to be going on the record, weren't supposed to be going on camera, or why they tried to interfere but it was important for Jeb Jacobe to begin getting this story out immediately. So, who is Jeb Jacobe? Why is he playing a central role in this story? He just happened to be there. There were 3,000 other people who happened to be there. They're not on 60 Minutes. There were 3,000 other people there. They're not on Adam Bartholomew's life at driving video. A few of them are. There were 3,000 other people there. They're not all sitting there with Phil Lyman nodding ahead as they I saw Charlie Kirk So, let's figure out who this guy is. Let's head over to Instagram. The allseeing, all knowing eye of the internet. This is Jeb Jacob's Instagram following. Do not harass this kid. Don't contact this kid. Please leave all these people alone. We are professionals here. I'm doing this without contacting these people. It says here he's from Sudbury, Massachusetts. Well, that's a little unusual because he's in Utah Valley University, not far away. I figured guy must have just gone to college, right? Must have just up and decided, I will go to Utah Valley University. Well, not exactly. Not exactly. Because if you look at his LinkedIn, not only do you discover he's currently living in or Utah as a third-year student at Utah Valley University, which is what we see here, student at UVU, ORM, Utah. You find out he's from Boston, Massachusetts. He's four years of cashier experience. He's 23 years old. Uh you get some ideas of where he worked, but then you see he goes to this Oak Grove school. Oak Grove School. That's Where's that? That must be in Massachusetts because that's where he's from. I'll submit to you his parents also still live in Massachusetts. So, you would assume this Oak Grove School is some kind of Massachusetts program he's involved in. Well, you would assume incorrectly cuz I will open this up and show you that Oak Grove School is not at all a Massachusetts-based school, but Oak Grove School is in fact in Utah. They are based in Utah. This is a committed to building academic and lifelong success by fostering community, creativity, and curiosity through exploration, movement, and hands-on learning for all students. And you can see there it is right there. It's in and around the Utah Valley University. This is Ogden, Utah. Utah Valley University is just down the road south of Salt Lake. It's right in this area down in here somewhere. So, it's just up the road. So this guy goes to a boarding school in Utah in Ogden, near an Air Force base, near active intelligence community outfits. This is where he is. This is what he's doing. This is a these are the types of programs they have. They have adolescent and young adult program, transitional living program, advanced transitional living program. They have therapeutic services. They have uh different academic programs. This is Oak Grove School, group therapy, academic resources. I don't know what he's doing here. I don't know why he went for four years to Oak Grove School when his parents live in Massachusetts. I don't know the history of the school and all that. I mean, we're going to look into it, but you know, only so many hours in a day. But this is a Catholic guy from Boston, or at least his Instagram says he's Catholic from Boston, from Sudbury.whose parents send him 2500 miles away to go to high school It's a nonprofit. It's accredited private school. And then they have these program homes where the kids live. And I'll show you what this program home is. This is the residential program home. So we have uh Jeb Jacobe again who becomes a central player in this so it's worth looking who is this guy comprehensive social emotional and behavioral support assists student development and implementation of pro-social skills in areas such as communication relationships emotion management and self-confidence. They go through stages. You have a residential one where they reside in a structured supportive homelike environment. Residential two they have additional community access and opportunities to demonstrate application of skills they learned during stage one. Then they go to advancement. They advance through the steps by earning required daily points consistently, completing treatment step assignments. Then you have this supervision and support. They're This is a weird program to me. This doesn't seem like a normal high school experience. And he's not done. Believe it or not, he's not done. There's more Jeb Jacobe to come because he shows back up in the mirror uh the following day. This is one day after the shooting. Now we're on day day two, I guess. If if uh shooting is day one, we're on day two here. This is um Jeb Jacobe talking to more news. This is uh the mirror us >> panicking. It was just an awful experience. Like I I I don't think anyone should ever have to go through an experience like that. It it's just it's hard. It's awful. Like I I'm I've never seen anything like this in my life. Like I'm going to therapy. Like I'm talking with my family. I've had 150 people message me in like a single day just asking me how I'm doing. >> Yeah. No, for sure. And and how are you doing? Like how how is today compared to yesterday? And like what what's kind of going through your head? I know you touched on the therapy talking to family. >> I mean it's like how could we even let this happen? This was a university that was founded in 1941 right before the beginning of the Second World War and right after like many many years later like if you look at the history of Uyu we've never had anything like this is one of the safest universities um in the in the country and it's like you know you go on the Wikipedia page and you scroll down you go to the very bottom and the one of the last thing that shows up is the shooting of Charlie Kirk. This became the event. This became the university where Charlie Kirk was killed. Like this is not like we're on national news and this is like a a huge thing. We never expected anything like this to happen. He had gone to many universities across the country that were way more um differing in ideologies compared to what Charlie's message was and way more extreme. And yet it happened here which is very surprising. I never expected anything like this to happen. It's it's it's just interesting to me that these same people keep showing up on all these same news organizations. Like I don't I don't know if there's some sort of pool where you put your name in, you say, "I'd like to be interviewed." But if you look these same people up, Tiffany Barker, Taylor Beine, Jeb Jacobe, Hunter Kak, I mean, Hunter Kak obviously is the exception because he was the last guy to talk to Charlie Kirk, so he gets a pass in terms of lots of interviews.Now, how he ended up as the last guy to talk to Charlie Kirk and how it just coincidentally seemed to mirror the motivation, that's scheduled for debate. But the rest of these people, it just seems like it's the same people cycling before the news over and over and over and over and over again. We're just getting a steady dose of the same people saying the same thing. Now, I would argue if you wanted to put this production in effect, uh, when I was talking to Sam Parker, and Sam Parker, uh, if you don't know on on Twitter, based Sam Parker, he does a great job. He helped do a lot of this research. Daisy helped do a lot of this research. Uh, this was truly a group effort to put these two shows together. There a lot of clips to track down. You have to figure out which ones are in, which ones are out, which ones are the best examples. You can't just sit here and play all the Jeb Jacobe clips. You can't sit here and play all the Tiffany Barker clips. You can't sit here and play all the Taylor Baldin clips because there's a lot of them. You just have to play a few and then just trust the audience knows there's a lot out there. These were the spokespeople of this performance. But if you if you want to establish this narrative, if you want to put on this performance and you want to have these same spokespeople trotting out there over and over and over, a guy like Jeb Jacob is gold. He literally was trained from high school to be obedient, to be to follow directions, to live in a special school. I, you know, the this school, as best I can tell, it has an autism component, maybe a little troubled student component. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but you get a lot of one-on-one therapy with these people. You get a lot of one-on-one. And if you wanted to really get inside someone's head, that's a great school to recruit from. I'm not suggesting that's what happened to the young man. I'm just saying that would be an ideal place to recruit from if you were trying to to get inside somebody and and have someone on standby when you need them. One more Jeb Jacobe clip because this is going to help us transition to a new phase of this investigation. Got one more Jeb Jacobe clip. Just like the Taylor Bean and Tiffany Barker interview, we're back on News Nation. Remember, this is that WGN successor organization. We're back on NewsNation. And I'm going to play this for you because this will help us transition out of the individuals and into maybe NewsNation's role in establishing this narrative because they were they were really hot and heavy on this and they kept featuring the same people over and over in producing these clips. >> Jacobe is a student at Utah Valley University and joins us now. Jeb, thank you so much for being with us. >> Again, though, how do you end up as one you're just one random guy at the event? How do you end up on NewsNation and on 60 Minutes and on The Mirror and on all these other outfits? You just happened to be there. There were thousands of kids there we've never heard from. But these same few people we hear from over and over and over and over again on all the different outlets. But I digress. >> Been a week. Um we are just not equipped uh to see the image that you saw um with your own eyes a week ago. How are you doing? >> Um, it's been an interesting couple of days. Uh, you know, I've been seeing a therapist and I've been talking with my family.Uh, my work actually reached out to me the day of the event and, uh, so they provided me with a therapist because of how concerned they were about the incident. Um, I've had about 150 to 160 people message me and just check in on me, make sure that I'm doing okay. Um, it it's like I think the hardest thing is is that I can never get that image out of my mind of watching him collapse in his seat and being carried off. And it's just a heartbreaking moment. Like you you would no person should ever have to witness that or see that. And it it's just so utterly sad. And like I don't just feel bad for not only Charlie's family and myself, but also everyone who was there to witness it. It's just heartbreaking. >> Yeah. I'm sorry, Jeb, that you've you're going through this and that you saw that. Um, you had a moment with Charlie before all this happened. You took a selfie. Tell me about that exchange and and what you two spoke about. >> Yeah, so the picture of him, the selfie is actually from 2024. So, I actually volunteered for him in August of last year. Um, I do have a picture of him uh at the event. However, it's not a very good photo. uh he's actually looking in the opposite direction. Um but I did talk with him a little bit. Uh I just said like, you know, you're going to do a great job. You're gonna, you know, like it's going to be an awesome experience. Like I I just want I just cheered him on. Like we took a picture together. We took a selfie. Um we took a couple group photos. They're going to release it to us on the 22nd. Uh those group photos. And um yeah, I mean it's like, you know, to know that you had met someone that was a kind of an inspiration to you and then 30 minutes later you literally watch them die in front of you. It's like I I can just never get that out of my mind. It It's just heartbreaking. >> What was it about Charlie Kirk that inspired you? Why were you there that day? And and what did it motivate you to do? >> Well, I mean, it's like, you know, I I liked the way that he communicated. I liked his civility. >> All right, we didn't have to listen to the whole thing. I was kind of getting enthralled by his story here. Um, but no, you you end up with this again. You have the same cast of characters. You have the same people being trotted out over and over and over. There were, I don't know, four dozen, five dozen TPUSA volunteers that day. He's the one that gets called up to all the interviews. He didn't even play any kind of particular role. He was just there. Why him? Um, now let's switch to news nation for just a little bit because NewsNation plays an outside role in everything that's going to be taking place. If you want to establish the narrative, remember, we have to establish the narrative. He's been shot. News Nation does a great job of that. They host people over and over and over saying, "He's been shot. He's been shot. He's been shot. He's been shot. He's been shot." So, you got to establish that. You have to establish there's some sort of security permissive security environment at the perimeter of the organization that day to allow a lone gunman in. And then you have to establish it is some sort of a Christian or uh anti-Christian or right-wing or left-wing reason why Charlie Kirk's not here. Either you're blaming him for being too far rightwing or you're blaming the other guy for being too far leftwing. But it is a wing. There's a wing component to this.There is a clip where Jimmy Kimmel gets pulled off of uh the air. Jimmy Kimmel is pulled off of the air for um well, I'll just show you the X feed. I don't play the whole clip, but uh Jimmy Kimmel makes a joke. He plays a clip and he gets pulled off the air. Here's the NewsNation version of it. ABC has followed NextStar's lead and immediately pulling Jimmy Kim alive from the air following his comments about the death of Charlie Kirk. This is NewsNation saying they followed NextStar's lead. Nextar owns NewsNation. They are the same. So you have this or maybe NewsNation owns Nextar, but I think it's the other way around. I think NextStar owns NewsNation. But but News Nation, NextStar owns all these ABC affiliates around the country. They go out there and they say, "We're not putting Jimmy Kimmel on. You can run Jimmy Kimmel from the main ABC feed, but here in our neck of the woods, we are not showing Jimmy Kimmel to our local audiences." Well, that puts a lot of pressure on ABC. What do they just play Jimmy Kimmel to nobody? Nobody's going to see it. Why would you have him host a show? So, they pull him off the air. It's important to understand that he was pulled off the air for these clips he's played and these jokes he makes. And the guy who clears the clips for him to play is Steve Kak. We talked about that last night. If you missed that, go watch it. Steve Kak, his job is to clear the clips Steve Kak in his capacity working for Jimmy Kimmel is part, I think, my opinion, part of the reason Jimmy Kimmel gets pulled off. What's the weird component to that? It was his son who was placed as the second questioner asking a transviolence question while a guy who apparently was motivated by trans violence takes Charlie Kirk out. And so you have this immediate connection that develops and you think, well that's a little weird. That's a little weird. It is uh I'll just show you here that um it is America's second largest or largest local affiliate. Here it is. Yeah. the largest. This is their claim on their website. If you look how many markets Jimmy Kimmel would have been pulled on. Nextar owns America's largest local television broadcasting group compi comprised of top network affiliates. More than 200 owned or partner stations in 116 markets, reaching 220 million people. So Jimmy Kimmel wouldn't have been seen in any of these markets. So Nextar has tremendous power when it comes to pulling Jimmy Kimmel off the air. And if you go through and look, I mean, it's just it's all the major markets have Jimmy Kimmel uh have Yeah. Next owns NewsNation. That's right. Uh you'll remember NewsNation played another role in trying to nail down the narrative once they started losing control of the uh Charlie Kirk narrative because candid that dadgum Candace Owens and her Mary Bast cast of characters would not shut up and would not go away and they were trying to say that Tyler Robinson might not have had much to do with this. And so they deploy, NewsNation deploys one of their contributors, a guy named Brian Eton, out to make sure we all know. In fact, it was Tyler Robinson. Here's a little piece of that package. >> Accused Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson set to appear in court tomorrow. Ahead of that, a Brian Ent speaking exclusively with a family member of Robinson's partner, Lance Twigs. The interview revealing some new insight into the couple's relationship, their online presence, and the text messages released by prosecutors.Senior correspondent Brian Enton joins us live from Utah. So, Brian, what all did you learn? >> Yeah, it was really an interesting interview. Uh, Nicole, we're at Utah Valley University right now. This is where Charlie Kirk was shot, right in this courtyard right here. You mentioned there's a big court hearing tomorrow that we'll be at, but we are also now for the very first time talking to Lance Twigs's uh family. And Lance Twigs has really been a big mystery in this entire thing. Remember, he is the roommate and romantic partner of Tyler Robinson, the man accused of shooting and killing uh Charlie Kirk. He is the person, according to law enforcement, who was texting with Tyler Robinson uh right after uh the shooting. Uh, and there's been a a lot of questions about where he is. Is he under FBI protection? Um, is he in the witness protection program? I have learned through this family member, uh, that he is no longer being protected by the FBI, that he has moved out of state, so he is no longer in Utah, that he has obtained an attorney. Uh, his family has. I spoke with that family member. Uh, she did not want her her face shown just because of everything going on. But she says this has obviously been an extremely difficult time for the family. Listen to this. I mean, >> okay, he go I I got to pause you here because I have to I have to preempt him. >> So, he just told you he's talking to this allimportant family member and he's on News Nation, this this very important company owned by Nextstar who ends up getting Jimmy Kimmel pulled off the air to solidify the narrative that this is a right-wing versus leftwing. This has a MAGA component. This has a transviolence component. Next is playing a very outsized role. They're getting Jeb Jacobe. They're getting uh uh Tiffany Barker. They're getting uh Taylor Baldin. They're getting all these people tied to these key central players, tied to Hunter Kak, tied to Phil Lyman. These are the people they're continually trotting out over and over and over. They're losing the narrative. Most people don't think Tyler Robinson had anything to do with it. Most people are confused by the fact that they paved over the the scene of the crime four days later. Most people are bothered by that. Most people are bothered by the fact that a 30 six doesn't do that damage. It would basically decapitate him. It would tear half his neck off. Most people are bothered by the fact that this story is not adding up. That this random guy wouldn't just run up on a rooftop and just know he could have access to Charlie Kirk without having any kind of plan in place. Right? So, they're losing control of the narrative. And News Nation has a lot invested in this narrative for whatever reason. And so they deploy Brian Enton to go out and grab this woman who he says is a family member of Lance Twigs. Now, I'm going to preempt this by saying, "I know who this woman is. I can't tell you who she is, but I know who she is. I know how she's related to the Robinsons, uh, to the Twigs, rather. I know this because Brandy and Billy interviewed their family, the Twigs family and the Robinson family. They talked to them at the court hearing. And their family crapped all over this woman. They said, "She is not family. She is a distant distant distant cousin of the family." Like multiple times removed. Wouldn't show up with potato salad at the family reunion. This is not that kind of family member.They estimated the family of Lance Twigs estimated this woman has seen Lance Twigs three times in his life. Three times. That was their estimate. And they said the last time they pro she probably laid eyes on Lance Twigs was over 10 years ago. In other words, this is an OP. What you're watching right here is a total 100% OP. Now whether Brian Enson was in on it or whether he got played, I don't know. But this was an absolute desperation heave. This was a Hail Mary. Fourth and 14 with 44 seconds left in the game. The game's on the line. You got to throw the ball into the end zone. We're losing control of the narrative. The Candace Owens, the Ian Carols, the Baron Coleman's, the Coach Collins, the the uh all the people out there have basically cracked the case and let us know that that Tyler Robinson didn't do this. I mean, think of the work put in by people like Trigger Smart and Heavy Duty Country and Jesse on Fire with all those gunshots, all those 30 six rounds, all those frangible rounds they put into different cuts of meat to prove that a 306 would never do this kind of damage to somebody. It would just obliterate the neck. It absolutely it would leave a a ghastly wound, not some little uh wound on the front of the neck and and really nowhere else in the body. And so they're losing control of the narrative. So they trot out this woman in shadow. And the reason she's in shadow is because anyone who knows the family would immediately know who this is and say, "How the hell would she know anything? This woman knows nothing. She is of no connection to this family. She doesn't even know Lance Twigs." I mean, I have family like this family I haven't seen in 10 or 15 years. They have no idea what I'm doing. They would have no idea if I was involved in some sort of crime. They would have no idea how I text my friends, how my wife and I communicate by text. And so what I'm going to I'm going to play it. We've played it before and you guys may have already seen it, but I want to play it with that context in mind. The Billy and Brandy reporting, the firsthand reporting here is absolutely critical to understanding this narrative, to understanding News Nation's role into trying to shape a narrative. And if they're trying to shape a narrative at this late date, this was three and a half months after the shooting. If they're still trying to force the narrative at that point, think of the heavy work they were putting in the first few days. But here's what she has to say. >> Both of them are super smart. I mean, Lance was I do know that. And I remember, you know, his his he he was a I don't know, concert pianist. Like his his talent for piano music was off the charts, like not not normal. It was very it was very um impressive. And that's kind of what I've heard about Tyler is that he was just so smart and so and it's just a shame that these kids that had so much potential and so such a bright future. What do you think changed? >> I don't, you know, and then being as antisocial as they were from my understanding of, you know, playing these games and being a part of this this Discord group, you know, it just they're they didn't seem like they were in a real world. >> There's text messages between Tyler and Lance um where they're texting >> after the event. >> A lot of people find them unusual. Mhm. The world that they were in, like this gaming world, like that was a normal way that they kind of spoke that it this wasn't an abnormal.The way they spoke wasn't abnormal. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. We know they all speak like Carrie Grant and Jimmy Kagny. That that's just that's just how gamers speak. Talk to any gamer. That's how they speak. You understand that? Any of you who have any gaming experience whatsoever understand that an average text conversation between two gamers This is an op. This was a Hail Mary desperation heave solely to get the headline they wanted. The headline was Lance Twig's family says Tyler Robinson did it. That's the That's the key. That's the headline they're searching for. I'll continue playing in a second. It's just another minute or so, but uh or two, but I will I will play it. But that's the headline they're seeking. Why? Because they've lost control of the narrative and they're doing everything within their power to get it back. It is so blatantly obvious this this entire narrative is ridiculous. No, that's not how gamers in their early 20s speak to each other by text. That's just not true. No, this woman doesn't know them. She doesn't have a clue how they speak. She doesn't have a clue how they act. She doesn't have a clue what they're up to. She would not know if they did it or didn't do it. And I know that because the family said that to Billy and Brandy. This woman's crazy. We don't know who she I mean, we know who she is. We have no idea why she's speaking. We have no idea why she's making these comments. And again, I don't know if Brian Inon was in on it or someone just said, "Hey, Brian, we got a family member. Can you interview her? It'll just take 10 minutes. Just ask her these five questions." I I don't know. I don't know. I'd be disappointed if he was in on it because I I looked into him after this and I kind of like his work, but it's it's a little it's a little weird. It's a little weird here. But this is the headline they're going for and they're going to get it here. >> There have been a lot of questions about where Lance is now, whether he's in the FBI protection program. It's been a big mystery. He kind of has disappeared. >> Yeah. My understanding was for the first few weeks because there were so many threats um against his family that um and him that they had I I my understanding is they did have a little bit of FBI detail and they kind of moved around a little bit but um but he they're not anymore. He's he's with his family. >> Will he still cooperate with the >> You know I don't know. Um, you know, when I first found out about how he was taken in and talked to by the police that it, you know, I know that they said that he was very cooperative, but they they had to go get him and bring him in. He didn't voluntarily go in and say, "Hey, I heard about this and I have some knowledge." You know, he had to go in. Then he had to he handed things over when they asked for him, but he wasn't he didn't give up any information um until he had to. >> There are so many theories out there and I'm sure you've seen them. People think other people are involved or another government was involved. I mean, you're kind of in the middle of this. Um how confident are you that police have the right guy, Tyler Robinson? >> 100%. >> That's the headline they wanted. The only reason she was there, she was there to further the narrative that they have the right guy. That's it. That was her role. And she played it perfectly. She played it perfectly. You would not know unless you talk to the family that she didn't know these kids.that I mean that is an absolute consideration here. It's something that must be taken into consideration. Why is News Nation so insistent on furthering this narrative? What role did they play? Um, you guys remember, we'll bring it back to Hunter Kak now. You guys remember uh Hunter Kak here? pull this up. I think it's time stamp. Let me pull this up here. We've got Hunter Kak making yet another appearance in a very strange moment. Erica Kirk does a town hall with Barry Weiss and Hunter Kak shows up on the >> first that Charlie ever spoke to was a Utah Valley student named Hunter Kak. He was asking Charlie a question that day when he was shot and he's here tonight and he wants to ask you a question. Hi there. Um, Erica, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your calls for peace and unity. And I'm likewise horrified by the people in my so-called camp who were cheering about Charlie's murder. >> Again, solidifying the right versus left. That is his goal. That is what he's doing here. Now, watch how he solidifies it even further with his question. I believe that they stoke the flames of violence. But even worse is when powerful, influential people on either side of the aisle stoke the flames. When they do it, the flames can become an inferno. And this leads me to Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth who has more responsibility than anyone else to put the flames out. Just last month, President Trump called on six Democratic lawmakers to be tried for sedition, which he clarified was punishable by death. He then reposted a simple message. Hang them. I think that you've been making strides to bring peace to our country and that Turning Point has been asking Democrats to decry the individuals who cheer for violence. I have and will continue to decry them. But any good faith effort to stop political violence must hold both parties to the same standard and expectation. So in that spirit, will you condemn the violent rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth? Hunter Kak is invited to the CBS thing to further the narrative that this is a right versus left thing. This is what he's been doing the entire time. This was trans violence. This is trans guns. This is all about uh Charlie Kirk was opposed to just perfectly innocent people and because he's a racist bigot or he's a transphobic bigot and and that's the question that was launched at the time. Then he immediately goes on, if you watch last night's show, he goes on with his cousin's news organization that his cousin works for. And he further spends an hour saying this is a left versus right thing. This is in December, 3 months later, and they're losing control of it, and people are questioning if it was politically motivated or perhaps was it motivated for some other reason. And so they bring him back out to yet again make sure we know this is a left versus right thing. I'm gonna play her answer just because I played to this point, but her answer is really irrelevant to why I wanted to play this. >> You know my heart. Why would I ever say yes, go murder people? This is so much deeper than just one. I understand your sentiment. I do. But this is also so much deeper than just one person. >> Okay, that's all I can take in those eyes. Um, but but again, the point I wanted to play was his role. He is playing, in my opinion, a role. He is showing up to further the narrative, get it back on track.This is about the time the Ryan In comes out. We've got to drill this down on left versus right. We have to drill this down on um on the fact that it absolutely was Tyler Robinson. Absolutely. The was their their text messages. Even if it's completely dishonest to trot this, you know, fourth cousin, five times removed great aunt out to do it. This is where we are now. We have confirmation from Hunter Kak that CBS actually was in on making sure he was there. Here is Hunter Kak answering the question. Did CBS pay for your travel to see Erica Kirk? Also, it's interesting you were practicing your reaction to Charlie's murder several times before it happened. Who are you working for, Hunter? Yeah, they did. No, I didn't. You're But yeah, they did. CBS actually paid for him to be there. So, he didn't just happen to be there. It was coordinated. In another tweet, he says that he told them, "I will only participate if I can I want to play just a I know it's late. I know we've we've been going uh an hour and a half already, but I want to I want to play this series of questions that get right to the heart of was there a gunshot at all because it's so unbelievable. Go back to Nick Sandman in the first 24 hours after that happened. It was so unbelievable. The narrative was so set in stone that Nick Sandman and his Catholic school friends from Kentucky were harassing these minorities. It was so set in stone that it would have been unbelievable for It would be like being an American being, this may be a bad example, but you're an American and it's just been beat in your head that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, the greatest documents ever written, and that they had a Christian basis and they had a god-like basis, and someone says, you know, that's all Satanism. It was all built on Satanism. And you're like, what are you talking about? Yeah, the God they're talking about, they're talking about Satan. Huh? What are you talking about? I mean, obviously that's a a weird example because go read the documents, but that reaction that Huh? What are you talking about? That's the reaction you would have had if in the first 24 hours after the Nick Sandman story broke before the longer video came out, I'll admit it looked terrible. The little clip they played looks so bad that I thought, why did they harass these people? I mean, I bought it. Everyone else did, too. And then when you see the footage in its entirety, you go, "Oh my gosh, these kids were totally innocent." It's the same thing when you when you start lining up all the different people who claim they heard something that didn't sound like a gunshot at all. I'll play through some of these in rapid succession. I'll place through some of these in rapid succession. And this is not going to take terribly long, but I want you to start hearing the pattern that develops >> That moment, what was that moment like? >> I thought I heard a firecracker. >> Thought I thought I heard a firecracker. Thought I heard a firecracker. So, that's the first one. I thought I heard a firecracker. Uh, let's go to the next one. This is They're going to be asked the same question. What did you hear? What did it sound like? What was going on in your head? There's some there's interesting things about this particular interview as well, but we're not going to get into all of it. Here is their version. >> Um um student and uh came up to the the mic. Um we just moments after heard heard the shot.The shot came from the left side and I looked over just like that and I thought, "Wow, isn't that funny? Somebody lit off a firework, thought he heard a firework." This becomes a very familiar theme very quickly and it becomes such a familiar theme that you start wondering what did people hear? Here's a here's another person here. This is uh another student or uh yeah, I think this is a student. Let's hear what this young man heard when he was there and asked about it. >> I heard two two pops and we ran um and some a lot of people ran with us when I was standing by the door kind of overseeing what was happening. Some people were standing there still taking videos. So, I went back out to look over the railing to see like maybe someone just did some firecrackers or something. >> Did someone do some firecrackers? This guy heard two pops. You remember Phil Lyman said he heard two pops. Um, so there we have yet somebody else saying they think they might have heard a firecracker. Um, here you have yet another student giving his version of events. We'll hear what he heard. Again, we're trying to do these in fairly rapid succession, as fast as we could do, producing your own program. >> Second speaker gets up, starts act starts asking questions just off the cuff about um trans shooters. And Charlie's responding. I think it's no more than 20 seconds. And I'm I'm listening, but I'm focused on how I can navigate my way through the crowd. And I hear a shot ring out. And it was weird the way the the sound reflected off the building and off of everybody that was there. Uh, I I guess I haven't been downrange from a a shot before, but it it sounded it didn't sound like it was a firearm, which was really weird. Um, but from my perspective, again, I've never been downrange from um a discharged firearm. So, that gives me new perspective as well. So, he says it didn't sound like a firearm to him. So, we got multiple people, some people saying a firecracker, some people saying it doesn't sound like a firearm. We go back to Taylor Beldine, uh, where we picked up earlier. Taylor Beldine weighs in on what she says she thinks she heard. And again, I'm just playing a few of these. There are dozens of these accounts. If you play through them all >> through this, Taylor, I want to bring you in here. What do you remember from that moment? >> I My initial thought was just shock. I I was so scared. I was like, "Oh, no, it's a I was thinking it's a gunshot." But then I was thinking it's in Utah, so it's maybe just a firework. >> Maybe just a firework. So you have this and I'm telling you that >> Hold on. >> You have a lot of these videos out there. I'm playing four, five, six of them just to give you an idea of what they sound like. But you have person after person after person taking to the television saying they didn't think it was a gunshot. It didn't sound like a gunshot. Sound like a firework. One guy talking about, "Well, I guess I've never been downrange before." Well, I've never been down range, but I know the difference between a firework and a gunshot. Might you see the urgency? If you're trying to form a narrative, if you're trying to control the messaging, if you're trying to solidify again those three key messages, the security was lax, allowing, and I've kind of skipped that part for time, but you got a lot of people saying the security was really lax. I didn't have to show a ticket to get in. I just walked right in. Establishing the security was lack.So, of course, a lone gunman could have gotten there. You've got people establishing immediately this had to be about the trans shooting. This had to be about uh politics. It's right versus left. We we push that so hard we get Jimmy Kimmel pulled off the air. Jimmy Kimmel again, key employee at Jimmy Kimmel is Hunter Kak's dad. Hunter Kak, the guy who was placed second with a pre-approved question about trans violence. And then you have this whole series of people that are questioning, was it even a gunshot? It didn't sound like a gunshot. Sound like a firework. Sound And again, I could sit here for 30 So, you look at this, and this gets back to kind of the way I opened the show yesterday. If you were going to stage an event, not only would you have to worry about taking out the target, not only would you have to worry about that, however you plan to do it, you have to have key actors in place. You have to have key components in place that can get in front of the news media and create a Nick Sandman environment that can really drill down the narrative, who can really hold firm on the narrative. It was a gunshot. It was a gunshot. It was a gunshot. It was a gunshot. To the point where all the people there that thought they heard a firework are like, "Well, then I heard a gunshot." You know, actually, it sounded like a firework. Okay, then why'd you say it was a gunshot? That's not what you heard. You heard what you thought was a firework. just say that. But it's actually changing the testimony they're giving the narrative is changing their experience of what it is they heard, what it is they saw. That's how powerful the narrative was. That's how powerful it was that people immediately started getting out there and saying he was shot. Remember the first person who said he was shot? It was Terrell Farnsworth. 26 seconds after the shot, Terrell Farnsworth grabs his phone and says, "They shot Charlie. They shot Charlie." He realized after he watched it, I'm sure he looked so ridiculous he couldn't But you had all these people immediately deployed into action saying he got shot. They had not seen the gun. No gun had been recovered yet. They had not seen a gun man. No gun man had been But this narrative immediately begins to form. It has a very Nick Sandman Yes, of course Nick Sandman and his Catholic school colleagues from New from Kentucky are racist. You saw the video, Someone in the comments mentioned But B Butch Hibbs. Butch Hibbs walks up to Adam from Life is Driving. Adam Bartholomew from Life is Driving and he starts talking about a gunshot. He got shot in the neck. Some people are saying he got shot in the shoulder, but he got shot in the neck. It just was a very early key. And I will add, I don't think he got shot. I think the I think this is very effective messaging. I think the whole thing has been Nick Sandman. I don't think he was shot. I think it probably did sound like a firework. I live not far from a shooting range. Not far at all. I hear gunshots all the time. They sound like gunshots. They don't sound like fireworks. I've been to gun ranges a lot of times. They don't sound like fireworks. They sound like gunshots. I've heard high-owered rifles, 300 6, 300 Win Mag, 308, all these 3/10 of an inch rounds. I've heard them all. They sound like gunshots. They don't sound like fireworks. And I've been to a lot of Fourth of July parties. A lot of them. They sound like fireworks.You light a firework, you throw it away, it sounds like a firework. Has a totally different sound. Has a totally different signature. I think this was a production. In my opinion, Newsmax or not Newsmax, News Nation, in my opinion, not saying it's fact, not reporting it as fact, but in my opinion, their reporting, their choice of people that they continually go back to an interview, their choice of messaging, their choice of putting this totally unvetted, distant relative up and act like she knows these kids, and it absolutely was Tyler Robinson. It looks like an op. It looks like an act. It looks like a production. I I I imagine there's a director. I imagine the director relied on people to hire and recruit witnesses that were going to be used over and over and over to begin to lay the groundwork, to lay This was a gunshot and it was driven by political ideology. They were saying that before they even know who the shooter was. Uh uh we had a prime minister of a foreign country. We had a president of the United States saying before we even identified a potential shooter saying that it was leftist violence. I don't know how you look at it any One day we're soon we're going to look at Phil Lyman. We're looking at all the connections to Phil Lyman in this thing, including the house that first released the Ring doorbell footage. Bill Lyman's car in that Ring doorbell footage. Bill Lyman standing at all these key points talking to Adam Bartholomew afterwards where he laughs when he asked We'll look at Phil Lyman and we'll look at some of these other key players, but I think tonight I want to leave it there because I don't want to over complicate it. I don't want to go any further into it than I have to in order to demonstrate what I believe was a production. It looks to me like a production. And if it wasn't a production, that's what a production would look like. If you were going to pull this off and you were going to have something explode under Charlie's shirt, which I think happened, I think it's beyond the doubt that what they heard that everybody thought was a firework was whatever it was that exploded under They didn't hear a gunshot. They heard a firework because that's what it sounded That's why they think they heard a firework. But it was so beat into your head from the very earliest moments, from the seconds after it happened, he was shot. They shot Charlie. Remember, that's the first thing they told Andrew Kovit when they called him. They shot Charlie. Everybody's reaction is they shot Charlie. Charlie was shot. It became just absolute embedded into the news over and over and over and over and over again. All right, so I do want to get through some of your comments. Um, again, I'm not going to do the show in two hours because then I can't talk to you guys and I I want to be able to talk talk to you guys, get some feedback. Um, and so you No, I'm not going to do that. And I'm not being rude. I just, you know, you can you can pick and choose which parts you want to watch. I I I add I do add chapters after the show. It takes 30 minutes or so for them to get updated and YouTube to throw them onto the options, but they're there if you ever want to just pick and choose what you want to listen to. I love that Candace called out coach today. You were all such a great team. God has blessed you all and are using your blessing to bring us truth. Thank you, Baron. Jesus loves it. Yeah, Coach is great. Uh I love coach's new live format.I think he's hilarious for one. He makes me laugh and that that makes me like him. Uh we've become pretty good friends. We text quite a bit. Um bounce ideas off of each other. Um help each other just, you know, with the with the mental grind of working 15 and 17 hour days, four or five days a week. Um, on an average day, I sit down in this chair at 7 o'clock in the morning and I get up at 11 o'clock at night. I get up to go to the bathroom and to eat. The rest of the day, I sit here preparing for the night's show. I do the night's show that lasts two to two and a half to four hours and then I have the post-production stuff and then I go to bed so that I can wake up and do the whole thing again the next day. I do it. I love it. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love it. It is the greatest job I've ever had. But, um, there's a there's a grindy component to it day in and day out. And, um, you know, I spend a lot of time on the phone with my sister, with Daisy, getting things prepared and ready for the show. Uh, for this program, I I talked to Sam Parker, uh, quite a bit, getting ready for that, getting some ideas from him. He helped me a tremendous amount, helping to see things and and put things in a particular order. And so, there's a lot that goes into it. Um and and coach coach and I talk about that a lot. So he does a great job. He does a great job. Uh Veritas Lux Maya Candace Owens. The truth is my light. Roger that. Uh teal hoodie today. No. No. Went with dark gray. Uh first time super chatting. Trying to get my fiance to watch you. Lol. Sending love and SC would be South Carolina. What's Columbia High School? What is CHS? I love Columbia High School or whatever you whatever. I know Columbia is a city in South Carolina. Oh, Charleston. Charleston's in South Carolina. I bet that's CHS. Love in Charleston. I've been there one time. One out of every three blueberries is an absolute nightmare. The only recourse Erica has at this point is to claim that her stories don't match due to the Mandela effect. I did an opening on the Mandela effect. I don't know if you saw that. Uh I thought it was fun. That was a fun one to write. Uh God bless you, sir. Well, God bless you as well. I see your song recommendation of If We Were Vampires and Raised You Remember When by Alan Jackson. Christ is King. Christ is King indeed. Uh Remember When's a fine song, but it has nothing on If We Were Vampires. Absolutely nothing. Uh, but remember when he'll find him. Uh, first time super chat. If you haven't watched the Tyler Wood encounter yet, Baron, you should totally check him out. Nothing about Charlie. I don't know what that means. I think Erica was confused when she was Kuma often Kuma louder back in the day. Just saying. I uh I don't think she was confused. I think she's it. It could be an act the whole Erica Kumy thing. Maybe she was and it just for whatever reason didn't make it into the program, but Tyler's made it into the program. Why wouldn't hers make it in? I don't think she was. Just like I think she ignores a lot of the inconsistencies and just doesn't address them. But I I don't think she was. The leader supreme in Philadelphia has been lying to us for decades about Iran's nuclear weapons. So exposing pathological liars is important. It absolutely is important. Watch a documentary about an American touring Iran right now. Americans have lost the plot about how good we really have it here.As a combat vet, I see why you were out of sorts the other night. They truly are good people. Um I'm out of sorts for a lot of reason. I hate war. And after watching what's taking place in and I mean I was born into war basically 79. So I was born we were just getting out of Vietnam. We had some limited skirmishes in the 80s. Nothing too crazy, but you know what was going on in Central and South America. And then 1991, man, I was in fifth grade and we've been basically a perpetual war ever since. There was the Iraq war, which which led right into the Balkans and Kosovo and Bosnia. And I mean, it's just and then that led right into 9/11 and then Afghanistan and Iraq and then, you know, it's just one thing after the some point we just got to stop. Like, we just got to say, "Hey, we're going to dial it back. Y'all work it out. Y'all work it out." Um, Candace read my comment on her show tonight regarding watching you receive a text live on your show last night. I love the team energy. Go Max. That was you, huh? Yeah, that was uh that was a fun moment. Actually, I haven't checked my text messages tonight because Daisy hadn't jumped in and told me anyone uh has texted. Um, interesting. Um, tiny bit of an echo, but don't shorten anything. I don't know what the echo could possibly be from. Please share the letter from TPUSA you received today. I saw an X. Please. Curious what it says. Keep the long lives. We love it. It's just a fundraising appeal. Uh sir uh Sir Baron, a humble merch suggestion. A pick of Baron in a hoodie on a hoodie. Allah fleet opening of you in useless idiot uh song. Hoodie on hoodie. A hoodie That would be funny. Um that would be funny. That was a great song. That's a banger. I listened to it three or four times a day. I talked to Ian about it last night. I I sent him a text. I was like, "This is a banger." Number one hit. Number one hit. If you've not heard Useful Idiot by uh Adfleet on YouTube, go find it. It's great. Uh Lex Friedman did a 10-hour show with Scott Horton, and I've watched it three times. High IQs can handle multiple hour shows. If you want a short dumb down show, go watch Spongebob You Infant. This is a high IQ out. Well, no reason to attack each other. Um I certainly don't want to attack him. I just You know, we do the show we do and people can watch as much or as little as they want, you know. Uh, terrible week. Lost my dog. The nurse Casey replied to my email and Baron replied to my ex comment. I needed that. God bless you all. Oh, so overall a bad week. But a couple of highlights in there. I yelled at my phone today that Candace wasn't over time today and to come back. I appreciate long form of you and coach. Don't yell at your phone. People think you're crazy. Uh 8 hours sounds good. People have to work for eight hours. We should be allowed to play for 8 hours. Go Max Baron. Doing my best out here. I remember seeing somewhere that TPSA screens the people who ask questions. True. Also, Hunter Kak had been banned from TPUSA events. True. Christ is king. So, that's an interesting point you raised there at the uh the right before the Christ is king. Christ is king indeed. Um, it's an interesting point you raised because Hunter Kak had been banned from TPUSA events. He has a whole YouTube video where he lied about he showed up at a TPS USA event and they said he couldn't get in.So, he went back, put a hat on and uh uh walked back in and said he'd lost his ticket and they issued him new credentials and he got in. So, why was he allowed to ask such a critical question at such a critical juncture? That's a great point. Great point. I don't normally watch long podcasts, but I feel your show is so good. 3 hours are too short and I'm watching from Ireland currently 1 a.m. here. I never miss a live and I've got school runs to do, but worth it. I hope school runs doesn't mean you're driving a bus. If so, prioritize the kids. Get a night's sleep. I'll be here in the morning. book. Get a copy of How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dr. Norman Peele for selfish commenters trying to get you this book right here which is on your list, your reading list you guys will receive. How to win friends and influence people. This is Dale Carnegy's version. The greatest book of its genre. I'll say that. Greatest book of its genre. Uh Baron, first of all, I'm watching. Love your show from Las Vegas. I live here. EK got PGO from the baseball guy and gave up that baby. Check with her closest crew handlers right under your nose. Who was that baby? Um, that would have been what year? 2013. What makes you say that? You can't just say that. You got to have proof of that. I mean that like I have proof of the 08 thing. She disappeared for eight months. You know when else she disappeared? The two times she was pregnant with GG and Mac. She disappeared then as well. So, there's at least some parallel there. Do you have any evidence of of that in the past? Uh, Sir Baron, don't cater to the ADHD visitors. 3 to four hours is great for the grand jury. Continue to be fearless and use your talent on loan from God. Praying for you and your family's safety. Me, too. I'm glad to know you're here for the long haul. Uh, two of TR's defense attorneys are currently defending Corey Richen's murder trial in Utah right now, watching on Court TV. Interesting. Interest to see. You rock. So glad you decided to go full-time. Prayers for you and your family. Is there something I should know about? Why is everyone praying for my family and my safety? Uh, she's been caught in so many lies. The people asking, "What does this or that have to do with anything? People don't lie this much for Uh, yeah, we're almost to Shabbat Shalom. That'll be tomorrow. Tomorrow afternoon. I'm gonna do a member show tomorrow, by the way, for the members. Uh, if you want to be involved in that, it'll probably be 1ish if I had to guess. Um about 1 pm tomorrow, give or take. Uh we'll come on and do a member show. I've got a few things I want to get off my chest. We'll get those out. Uh and then just do some Q&A, have some fun. Um I like reading through the comments and and uh you you guys leave me wild places. Maybe we'll talk maybe we'll talk those final couple book slots. Uh any connections between the Kak family and anyone that worked for EK's production company? production, directors, pageantss. If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Unknown. Prayers and support from Texas. What's funny about that, I don't know about that connection, but what's funny about that is I was listening to an old Erica Kirk podcast today because I had already counted like nine lies, disprovable lies, like saying she'd never been in another pageant before the she got the letter while she was at Colorado. She was Miss Arizona Teen USA. She competed in pageantss in high school.She competed in pageantss her first two years at Colorado. She competed in pageantss both years at Arizona. Why would you lie about that? It's so easily, demonstrably false. You are a dishonest human being. Repent. Repent. We're a forgiving people. I'm a I'm a forgiving person. If she came out and said, "Look, I I've told a lot of tales in my life. I was trying to craft some narratives. I thought it would help me get ahead. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. Here on out, I'm just going to be honest. Honest, Abe, I'll be forgiving. let you guys make the call on whether you trust her. The information, the way you communicate it to your high IQ offense is Sublime. I know there's a band called Sublime. I don't know that I've ever looked that I'm not afraid to admit when I my knowledge falls short. Um I think that's part of being smart is you have to admit when you don't know of such excellent grander or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe. I knew it meant good, but I didn't know it meant that. Wow. Thank you. Sublime. I'm going to use that more. You've created a beautiful community and I never miss a show. Well, thank you. I hope I hope you're not disappointed that I didn't know the dictionary definition of sublime. Uh Baron, please don't ever forget. God wins in the end. Oh, I don't forget. It keeps me sane. It keeps my anxiety and worry low. What you are doing matters. What you say matters. Uh means something. Your time is not wasted. Your stance is justified. Romans 8:31. Well, I don't think it's wasted. Did I say that? Baron. I like when you Frenchize it. Baron. Uh, it's wild. People want to tell you how long do your show. Shabbat, shut up. Most of us appreciate your research and time. Thank you. Thank you. How would I have done tonight's show any shorter? This is a high IQ outfit. Honestly, how would I have done tonight's show any shorter? It takes time to build a case. It takes time to I I my goal tonight was to walk out of here after yesterday and today having presented a pretty good argument, not not definitive proof, but a pretty good argument that this could have been a production with actors and the actors could have been there to solidify the narrative that there was a gunshot, there was a security deficit that allowed a lone gunman to take off and that there was some sort of a political component to it. That was my job. How am I going to do that in less time? I don't know. I don't know. This is a high IQ outfit. Do you, your highness? Oh. Uh, 10 minutes, 10 hours. As always, thanks as always for your work. I have a cipher. Robin Gino not Mike not Matt washed out in gay wire. Love how Candace Owens thinks. I know you're not. Um, I have not watched mainstream media in months. Support to one of my favorite podcasters out here, Speaking the truth. Well, Uh, hi, Mr. Baron. Did you see today that Tyler Robinson's defense team wants to have a private meeting regarding removal of recording devices and videos out of the courtroom before the April 17th hearing? Thoughts? I didn't see that, but that's that's worrisome. That's worrisome. If they if they bar the media from that trial, that's going to be so worrisome. I think the judge predisposed not to do that and I hope he sticks with it. Like water off a duck's back, don't change a thing. We the jury and grand jury, you're true fans. Oh, that guy's not a true fan. I see. Love the format length and stand behind our humble host. I'm trying to be humble.I'm trying to be uh worthy of your time. My favorite part of your threehour long shows is at the end of the broadcast when you look into the camera at all of us and say, "Jesus loves you." Thank you, Baron. That's my favorite part. Uh, Candace shouted out Coach Colin tonight. Yes. Yes. Yes. I bet he's over the frigin moon. You were mentioned as I thought about this when I watched the uh the uh useful idiot video. It would be really fun to get the four of us in one room um and do a show like it just do a just an allout brawl of a show where where there's no rules, there's no like format, there's no just talking. I think that would be so fun. Just let everybody's personality come out um and just chat. I think that would be fun. I think it would be fun. I don't know that any of them have time to do it. I don't know that everyone's travel schedules would work. I don't know that everybody else would think it would be fun, but I would have a blast. I would probably do a lot more listening than talking because I'm in awe of those people. All of them. Uh Hunter Kak stated in his first interview after the big boom his brother was involved in a school shooting not too long before that. Coincidence? I don't know. I do remember that. Uh dear Baron, my question to you is this even my question to you this evening is do you think that it's time that everyone stops calling those who don't share their political views bad names? You needed to fix the divided states of America with hope. Um, I think it depends on what the bad names are. Like I have some bad names I'm thinking of of some people right now that are opposite sides of this Middle Eastern conflict. Um, and I don't know what else to say. I mean, if if if you're supporting an agenda that's killing people in an unjust manner, I I think bad things No, if you want to raise taxes 3% and somebody else wants to cut taxes 1%, I I don't think we should be calling people bad names. Let's make economic argument. If we're still auditioning the actor to play you, I vote the actor that plays Boramir in Lord of the Rings. Shawn Bean, circa 2000s. Well, he can't play me. Circa 2000s. That's the problem. He's basically 67 now. One does not I didn't know who you were talking about, but I know that meme. Sand man opening was perfect for tonight's theme to bring together the full picture of the Hollywood production to frame the narrative and force the public to move on from questions. Thank you as always. Christ is king. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Um well, thank you. I thought it was a a pretty good pretty good time to roll Nick Saman out. I like I have a lot of these half-written openings where I've kind of skeleton outlined a topic that I know I want to get to at some point. I just don't know when to do it. And I knew I wanted to do that one uh on a time when framing the narrative was important. And today was the day. It's all a lie when you look watch the lost history of the flat earth. Look into what Admiral Bird discovered the firmament of the Bible. Christ is king. Um I've looked into Admiral Bird a little bit. Admittedly not very much. I am not a huge flatearther. Um, but I I I actually buffer that to say I'm not a vacuum of spaceearther either. So there's a to me there's a middle ground between those two. Um, that I think is accurate. Beautiful and poetic way to depict how narratives are not organic and written long in advance. Your show should be 247. God bless. My bladder could not handle a 247 show.It would not survive. Baron, you do you. Loving the show for a year now. I watch the opening and second act. Stay longer if I can. This is my suggestions for others if too long. Fleet needs to make a video of DJT and BB holding hands singing the Barbara Anne song that took off in the 70s. Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb on. Our leaders are fake and gay. History repeats. It's I don't think I wanted to make that song. I don't want to make bombing Iran And that song's cute and fun. Was that uh was that was uh I'm thinking of maybe I'm thinking of a different song. I thought that was the Beach Boys. Bar Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else. Uh, yo, you here's your opening statement. Me finally, I joke. Hey, I look forward to your opening statements. I feel like my I feel my IQ getting higher. I'll have to go shopping to get a new outfit soon. Crisis King. Yeah, that new outfit will be available soon. Um, the first test shipments have begun arriving. So, we're we're very close to having done a full quality and uh process check, and once we do that, we'll roll everything out for everyone else. Erica had a priest pray over Charlie the night before the spell. But what if she had the priest come over and pray over CK because she knew he would be killed the next day? I'm telling you, Baron, that's it. Stay, Max. Christ is king. Um, I've thought that. I will say this. I think there's a component of Erica that at times she takes her faith fairly seriously. Uh, and then she You know, there are times she doesn't I feel like that's all I can I'm at liberty to say, but I do think there are times where she takes her faith seriously. And maybe the death of the father of her children is one of those times. Not not seriously enough to not go through with it, but I mean seriously enough to make sure he's been prayed over. Uh, three Duponts from Quebec on the cure on the crew of Snake Eyes. unsure of connection to Deont family or Kzaks, one part of costume and design on several movies. Now, I'll admit there are so many weird similarities between Snake Eyes and and uh the Charlie Kirk assassin. I don't think they're related, but there are a lot. There are a lot. Uh Baron, whenever my twin 5-year-old boys notice me watching you, they say, "Mommy, it's your favorite. Thanks for always making my day. Go Megs." Uh, well, let them know you're my favorite, or at least tell them that. Baron said I'm his favorite. Uh, did they have anyone in line? Third or fourth? Yeah, they had they had a whole snake of a line. Zechariah Careshi was in the line. Uh, was Liam wearing his grandpa suit? Yeah, that was a terribly ill-fitting suit. I have no idea. And his his poor aunt is a costume like a a stylist. No, it's his mom. she let him walk out of the house. And then Hunter Kak was added as a creator of the Unblank America tour on 71625. Was not listed as a creator on 71525 according to the Wayback Machine. Well, that's good intel. Did they have any online for third or fourth? Yeah, they did. uh vital right now here in Utah. Cory Richens for unaliving her husband. Her lawyers are terrible and not representing her at all. She has the same lawyers as Tyler Robinson. I mean, that's a I'm not I'm not Maybe they are, but that's a naked claim. I can't evaluate that. You know, what are they doing that's terrible? I don't I don't I don't not paying attention. I'm way too involved in producing this show on a daily basis in order to watch an entire trial.Uh, so I have no no basis to evaluate that claim. I saw the earlier super chat about EK JT Massie giving a baby to someone close by. Tyler Boyer has a middle daughter about the right age. Might explain the extra awkwardness regarding how they're linked. There may be more about how they're linked coming. Stay tuned. Um, we're getting close. Nailing down some documentation, but we're getting close. Yo, B, did you get my email? I never sent Oh, Ivan, I was about to fight you. I'm just kidding. Uh Abby, can you modify your show length? Five or six hours would be great. Oaron, replace Trump pick with a negative void. GBC, ease up on boomers, youngster, and get off my lawn. >> Yeah, it's not boomers are an easy target. Just in the older generation always is. The greatest generation was an easy target. Boomers are an easy target in 25 years. My generation, generation X will be an easy target. my kids generation, uh, after the millennials, they'll be an easy target one day. So, I mean, it's just it's it's like if you've ever worked in a restaurant, the PM shift always blames the AM shift for all the problems, and the AM shift always blames the PM shift. It's just normal. Just normal. Hunter's very weird. You're telling me his actions prior to the question, hands on his ears, etc., is weird. Definitely seems connected. officially became a member of the high IQ outfit. We're never shortening it. Lyman's family members were also giving interviews setting the early narrative of the shooting. That's correct. We'll get to that when we talk about Phil Lyman. Officially became a member yesterday. Good. You got a member show Baron, they have got you and Candace so freaking throttled back tonight. Getting closer to the target. Bub, go Max and stay gold. Always remember, Christ is king. Uh, I've been getting notices from people on the throttling. Um, I'm aware. Uh, what's your opinion on US forces in Germany? not really a sovereign state since World War II, suffering a huge Muslim migrant crisis and economic decline. What do you think about the general state of Europe? God bless you. Um, this might take a second to answer. So, Europe suffered from back-to-back devastating conflicts. Spain largely avoided I mean, they had their own civil war going on, but they largely avoided the international conflict. But millions of people like 10, 20, 30 million people. Germany, France devastated. And what what you ended up with is this the surviving and this is going to be hard news for people and not every instance is this the case, but but we talking law of averages, right? What you ended up with in Europe was a surviving cast of characters who were the people who didn't go to war and so it was a little more eminent maybe. Um I mean they they just mowed through a lot of the manly men. Let's say that. I'll put it that way. a lot of the manliest men just got mowed through in Europe. And so after World War II, after the baby boomers then grew up, And I think Europe is greatly suffering from that right. I think they're really suffering from that right now. And it's unfortunate. Um, and that's as nice as I can say it to someone who I know is based in Europe based on your uh, ebooks or El Bucks. Baron, you are killing my odds game. It's been a while since you were not shared a vid. Uh, TK loves you all. Yeah, I've been getting better at it, but tonight I screwed up. Back to my old ways. Can't help it. Hi from Decar, Alabama. Decatur, the greater equator.Uh, Tik Tok slop says EK was written out of CK's will. prior to the Big Bang. Does this carry any validity? I doubt it. I haven't heard Candace report on this either. Appreciate you and all you do. I doubt it. But even if she was, she got millions and millions of dollars in donations. There were alleged to be life insurance policies. So even if all his assets went into a trust for his kids, for example, she still walked away with millions. This is my greatest compliment I can give you is this. You inspire me to be a better man. I'm fighting perm addiction. Oh. Oh, oh, oh. I'm two months strong. Go Cubs. I hope those aren't related cuz baseball season's coming up. Or maybe the Cubs keep you off of Formula 1 starts tomorrow, tonight. Uh, just got here. Been thinking there are many cases when a woman has been duped. Husband affair, maybe a whole second family. She has no idea for years. We keep wondering how Charlie didn't know, but people live double lives all the time. Uh, not a bad point, Jillian. Not a bad point. Um, I think if we can answer the Erica Kirk, Tyler Boyer origin story, it will go a long way towards solving the did Charlie get duped story. Thank you for that generosity. Uh, the coordinated plan to bring CK down involves several players. I think the lower level players will be taken out as we continue to put pressure. I worry that the true architects and financial backers may remain untouched. Isn't that always the case? I watched three hours in a little over two by using 1.7 speed. Nice. Be nice to the normies. They know not what they do. I'm going to start talking faster for people like you. Watch this. Obviously, they had to silenc before the war. They could not afford to lose media narrative in the midterms. Cope great work. I'll be your own 1.7. Now, what? Now, listen to that at 1.7 speed. I sound like the micro machine man if you're old enough to understand what that means. Why would T Barker talk about Erica's Great point. Not only her last tweet, her only tweets in years, I think, if That's a great point. ASU Senate didn't approve international relations relations as a major until motion 2456 for a 2425 academic year inception. I can will email the link. You don't have to email the link. I know for a fact they didn't have a major back then because I have the program guide. I showed it last night. Baron, love your show. Feels so comfy. I suggest you leave the spot on the wall black to represent the sad state of the president to you right now. Crisis is King. Crisis is King indeed. You'll notice it is black and I announced my intention to do so the other night. Narrative formation is why they tried killing any interviews from getting out early on before the narrative they control got established. That's correct. That's correct. Good call. Uh Baron, it's almost like they are manufacturing a mass psychosis over the end times prophecy. I've had multiple strangers approach me at my job talking about how we're living in the end times. I'm telling you that is so dangerous to me. I saw a video of Pete Hegsth talking about that kind of stuff. I thought the religious fanatics were supposed to be on the other side that were trying to usher in the end times, Did anyone ever find out who flashed images of Chucky on the screen behind Erica, Nicki Minaj, and Afest? 203 and 228 minute mark of Fox's YouTube video. I've not seen that.Do we know what happened to the kid who was being interviewed and then got surrounded by color of the darers? Um, they weren't color of the dayers. They were people that I played that clip tonight. That was Jeb Jacobe. Um, they were wearing red TPUSA I don't know. Maybe they were instructed no interviews because they didn't want the firework narrative getting laid before they could lay the gunshot narrative. I don't know. CIA was sloppy making Erica's cover. They received orders to do better in the future. Maybe didn't watch last night, but you know, Andrew Callahan with Channel 5 did an interview with Tunner Kak. Yeah, go watch last night. You'll see it. Hi, Baron. I'm grateful your streams are three hours plus. I work a job that doesn't allow us to be on our phones. Listening for four hours straight without having to pull out my phone saves my sanity and my job. Thank you. See, I'm out here doing the Lord's work. I'm saving sanity one phoneless worker at a time. Dank said today that YouTube is paying four to six times more ad rate for Charlie Kirk videos versus war videos. Suddenly YouTube likes Charlie Kirk videos. What do you make of that planned? Um I don't know that he's right about that. I've certainly not seen any any of that. You know, all for that YouTube if you if you can. Um, but I've not seen that result. I've seen no difference um over time on uh on YouTube ad. Uh, thanks BC deep dive needed. They are all linked. Larry Ellison media buttt all intentional international for coverups now and come be bush digs in media monopoly. I'm going to assume that's a great point. I'm going to assume I agree with it. We were planning to go see sun on the 18th. Just got news that base is locked down to all visitors due to threats from Iran for military bases. Praying this is over quickly with no more loss of life. I am so scared of some false flag here on American soil. It it absolutely terrifies me because that's the next escalation. That's that's what happens next. and it scares me. I always believed Hunter Kak was part of a group known for protesting CK's events. You don't have to believe it. That's just a fact. And therefore was banned from attendance. Now he's number two questioner. Um yeah, interesting. I love you. It's worth paying again. Ha. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I love the long shows. This is why I love you and you're my favorite. Our brains work the same. Never change. By the way, my surgery went great and I'm recovering well. That's a lot. I don't know what all that means. I mean, I know what indometriosis is in the uterus, but I didn't know it could be in other organs. I'm glad you're doing well. Uh, don't you dare Don't worry about it. Uh, proud member of this high IQ outfit, especially after the huge shout out to you, coach and Lionel from the Queen. Long live the Queen. Yeah, I listen to Lionel uh quite a bit. I like his stuff. Great show, Baron. I have several alerts on my phone that Charlie had been shot before I ever saw the footage. Certainly influenced my bias of the footage. Crisis King. Crisis King indeed. That's exactly right. That was the point. Love your show the way it is. I'm often I often am not able to watch the full show in one night and just finish the next day. It's great for days that you don't offer a show. Come on, people. It's not hard to pause. Yeah, agreed. Got my answer. Sorry. You're welcome. Uh, you're forgiven. Do we know if any of these folks was at the Trump shooting?I don't know. I've certainly not heard that. Wow. Tiffany Barker mentioning EK's last tweet, which watch Candace, if you know, you know. The orchestration of this production starts becoming very obvious. It does become very obvious. That's why I wanted to do the show. It's why I'm glad Sam Parker helped so much in the show. It's why I'm glad Great Lakes Dave helped the research of the show. It's why I'm glad Daisy doing Daisy things helping with the show. Um, it is it's important to go back to the basics, take a little step back from the basics, and see the overarching plan come into place. I'm not done with that. We There's some more to this, but but for tonight, we're letting it rest. Uh funniest thing you ever said. I got eight kids. You're doing great work. Love how you explain everything and tie in to opening statements. By the way, it's impossible to type super chats. Lol. Crisis King. You know how I do super chats? I text myself what I want to say and then I copy and I paste it into the super chat window. I'm so glad we're talking about Jeb. I was wondering who was going on because that big guy came up and grabs him. Yeah. What's the point of pretending like he was shot? Seems like there's an Um well, how you need to you need to solidify the narrative that this is a transviolence shooting. You can't transviolence your way into poisoning or heart attack. It has to be a shot. Well, you can't say his microphone exploded or his necklace something happened with it. That's not No one's going to buy that as a transviolence connection. During the interview, Tiffany even brought up the last tweets Bible verse from Erica and Charlie. Way to settle the way to set the narrative that EK is an amazing Christian. Everything seems so well calculated. Yeah, cuz it was. And if there was no Candace and if there were none of these other shows, they'd have got away with it. And I I can't imagine how frustrated they are that they can't get away with. That's why Aha. I wanted to pull out. I got to get I didn't say I wanted to. I didn't. Uh and without skipping a beat continues like the professional he is. Uh thanks for the church giggles. I needed that. Great opening statement. Thanks for not letting your foot off the gas. No gas letting off around here, young lady. of a Baron. Were questions orders always pre-planned? I don't know. I don't know. It's a great question for TPUSA. Baron, I beg you to quit using the term circle back. I'm getting flashbacks to Biden era and Jan Pasaki. Please, I beg you to stop saying it. I can't I can't stop saying it. It's part of my um lexicon. Keep in mind, it's been a few years in corporate America. We say circle back a lot. Will you change your show to four to five hours? A grumbler asks. I've done four-hour shows and then I was advised by the urologists in the audience to not do that because it's bad for my bladder or else I'll have to play adfleet songs and take a quick potty break. Uh Baron, have you seen wiki page for assassination fed slop with shocking amount of detail and weird tangential info included clearly for narrative cultivation? I'm not I'm not get people dropping gift memberships. You guys are great. Social emotional learning is a paloer trauma bonding based brainwashing techniques technique. Sounds like kind and compassionate until you know where Duly noted. Uh here's a super just to Y'all, I forget Gary exists. I think a lot of other people do, too.Uh, kid kind of in all seriousness, thank you for all you do, Baron. Keep going, Max, and fighting for the truth. What does Gary say something about my show or something? Uh, isn't it sus TPUSA pre-approved a question? Doesn't seem like they did in the past. It's sus to me they placed him second in line. That's sus to me that they placed him Uh, it would be great to know who was supposed to be number three, four or five to ask Charlie question that day since we know there were no prep done for the next event. Yeah, it'd be it'd be interesting to know if they lined up the whole group or just the first couple. Like, was number 19 lined up? We sent our troubled adopted teen to Wilderness program in Utah in the 2010s. They really pushed us to send her to Oakrove afterward. We did I'm going to do a little look into O' Gro. It seemed a little X-Men school to me. Uh, this is all one big season of Kevin Spacy's House of Cards. And guess how it ends for everybody. I emailed just search for Rich Wright, please noted. First time super. But listen, always if you or CO or other figure out who actually did this in a legal standpoint, what's the next step? Go Max Crisis King. Thank you for what you do. Uh, Crisis King indeed. Thank you. Um, you know, it's my hope that the defense team is at least aware of the amount of research being done outside so that they can they can begin to fold it into to their work. And maybe, you know, I'm sure some of the things we get wrong, it's natural. Um, but the stuff that they think would benefit them, I would, you know, be great if they would fold it in and and broaden the scope so we can actually figure this thing out rather than just go up there and try to cut a plea deal. That'd be my gold. Uh, great job trying tying the opening statement into today's discussion. Crystal clear and compelling. Also, the name Channel 5 News is deceptive from day one. Yeah, it's a little deceptive. Can you turn the captions when you play media? Yeah, probably if they have them. I never thought about that. Not a bad idea. So many articles, so many actors. We're going to need opening credits covering all the players. Have you looked into the lady filming Jacobe? I don't know who she is. If anyone knows, email me. Real [email protected]. Um, I got a little scroller down there that has it. Uh, it's got the X, too. It's got the Vimmo, too, if you want it. But, um, I had to let let the uh Real Baron podcast just roll so you guys can find it when you need it. I got a lot of problems with you people. Don't Don't bring uh uh Festivus into this. You're such a light in a very dark time. Keep it up, Baron. I'm grateful for your input and intellect. You are max. Good Christ is king. Christ is king indeed. Uh shout out to Danks, Kelly, Jason, etc. So many small creators with great info. Yeah, Kelly found that great piece. Uh Danks did a good job on some of the the uh life insurance stuff. Kelly did a great piece on the little figure in white scene on the actually talked about that the other day on a call with uh Daisy and and and Sam and um yeah I mean there's so many good I don't want to leave people out. That's why I hate naming names because you end up leaving people out. I'm a gamer. Conversations do not go like that. Yeah, I know. We all know. That's why I don't trust these channels like NewsNation, Channel 5, Ashley Banfield. This has been going on in the true crime community.Shouldn't Jeb have said there was blood pouring out of his neck rather than there was blood on his arms and shirt? I guess that part wasn't in the original script. If you think about it, and if the whatever took place under a shirt was supposed to initiate a chest wound, it would have made perfect sense what he was saying. because that's that's been my theory is that whatever happened under a shirt was not supposed to go into his neck, but was supposed to cause a chest wound to look like a a gunshot to the chest. Uhhuh. Ever been in a Call of Duty chat room 10 to 15 years ago and even now? That's definitely not how gamers talk. That's correct. Anonym uh anyone's got Lance LP number in Texas gas station and picks. Oh, license plate number. I don't know. Beon, here's a merch ID after yesterday's show. shirt and stickers that say, "I prefer my host in a hoodie, not a velvet suit." RBP Crisis King. Someone made a portrait of your humble host. AI, I'm assuming, in a velvet Adidas suit. Put it on X. I would wear that. It looked awesome. Uh Baron right there. The interviewer just handed that over to her as far as you know. Yeah, the interviewer. I know a lot of people like Brian Inon, so I'm not trashing him, but the interviewer did not do himself any favors, himself any favors. Uh, US government propaganda disseminated via legacy media was authorized in 2012, Baron, in the NDAA, signed by President Obama. That's what we are seeing with this and all other SCOPs. There have been so many. Yeah, there have. Uh, I knew that interview was an op as soon as she said that's how gamers talk. Absolute BS. Been a gamer my whole life. When messaging we barely have a grasp on English language and punctuation is unheard of. You mean you don't you don't You don't talk like you're in a uh Um Erica looks constipated because she's Great opening statement. You sir are a great guide in many ways that impact our lives. Great work. Thank you. Thank you. It's very kind of I appreciate your I'm letting the joke go. Go Max. Uh you work hard to dig deep and we appreciate it. Same sentiment there. Uh given where Dan Flood was standing, if the bullet had been a 30 out six, do you think it would have hit Dan Flood as well? No, I don't. I think it would have gone through his neck and perhaps hit whoever was behind him behind the tent. But Dan Uh Baron, we appreciate every minute of your high IQ outfit. Thank you. I pray for you and the fam crisis king. You are going max. I'm trying. I'm trying. I was waiting for you to say the beef is not cheap and beef is not cheap after pointing out the extensive ballistic testing from Trigger, Jesse on Fire, etc. Further proving the TR narrative was written by Joe. Uh it's very Joe level IQ. There's no doubt about that. U the narrative. But I I don't know how many pork roasts and beef roasts and leg shanks were obliterated by guns trying to replicate what happened to Tyler I mean to uh Charlie Kirk's neck, but it was not a small amount of money spent on that on that stuff. Uh, Thomas Massie defeated Sandman right defended Sandman right away. Yeah, he's got a good instinct. If any of your aid are misbehaving, you should put them in solitary confinement and force them to listen to EK. Try to put a coherent sentence together. No, we don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment. It's against the eth amendment and uh we're not we're not going to do that. Uh Baron sassy. Love it. Hey, don't am I sassy? I don't think I'm sassy.Hey, don't you think Erica would want to have that info corrected on ASU website? She earned it. And it's hidden. You have to call and ask for it. They don't just offer it. The only one that's hidden. Uh Waterfall Canyon Academy is advertised to serve neurodeiverse adolescence and young men with cognitive, social, emotional, and behavioral struggles. Yeah, we saw that. Um but it's it's it's ripe for programming people because of the intense one-on-one type stuff that's going on. I mentioned it before. Brian showed up at Nancy Guthy's house and discovered blood at front door. the police haven't discovered yet. He's sus. I didn't know that. It's always intrigued me when Erica Kirk said, "You know my heart to Hunter on town hall as though they know each other personally. Keep shining your light on this turd hunter. He's so sus." But let's not call him a turd, shall we? But I You're wrong. Um Benny Johnson led the charge to have Jimmy Kimmel pulled off the air. He spoke with the head of the FCC on his show about it. Uh that's funny because immediately after the Charlie Kirk assassination, I was talking with a a political operator and he told me to watch out for Biddy Johnson in the wake of Charlie Kirk being what's the right way to Charlie Kirk passing? Did you Did you check Erica's commencement agenda for the Thank you, Lud? I can't believe I made it list. Christ is king. Oh, thank you, Lud. No. Uh, Butch standing behind the guy mentioning a shot happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That absolutely happened on the life is driving video. Um, I want to say like around the 30 something minute mark. 31 32 minute mark. Uh, who gives a dudoo about his? I didn't know him. Lol. Don't mean anything to me. No one gives a doo about his. I mean, that's not true. I think he I think he's integral to the story. Did you see the show where he showed up with what looks like a road microphone in his pocket with the sound of electrocution go out versus the sound of a gunshot coming in? I think there was some sort of uh explosion under his shirt. I just do. You're never going to convince me his shirt moved like that. that amount of gas left his shirt. His shirt popped out the back like that. It his hair moved as gas expanded out of the back of his shirt. That didn't happen from a gunshot. So, that would have created a firecracker-like noise if it happened. Of course, it wasn't a gunshot. I don't know anyone that would literally stand next to a guy that was slated for assassination by gunshots. Sniper could be having a bad day off mark by a foot well, that presumes that they would have known. I mean, I I don't disagree with you're consistently proving to be an outstanding researcher, Barrett. It's crazy to learn about all these people I'm familiar with. I lived in ORM 20 years. You're familiar with these people. Interesting. Uh, hey Johnny, two times. Uh, hey Veronica, one time. Great show. Great show. Is this Is this kind of like trying to convince us that George Floyd didn't OD and the cop wasn't a killer? It's the same vibe, different cast. I love y'all. This kind of like trying to convince us George didn't OD and the cop wasn't a killer. I don't know that I'm following that. Similar thing though. Um, the cop killed George Floyd narrative was just established so vehemently, so matterofactly, so early that when George Floyd's tax report comes back, no one even pays attention to it. Was in Catholic high school for Sandman.Mom told me about it after school. I remember doubting cuz I was cuz it was expected in the MAGA era and felt attacked through him, but agreed the video looked bad but was definitely sus. Yeah, the video looked terrible initially. CK story like a cartoon that I'm seeing at night in my dream. Awkward Cox explanation. Delivery of shooter to incarceration. The worst position is for retired cop. First or most likely to have break is in. I don't know what all that means. The only logical explanation is production and crisis actors. They need handlers explaining the uh planning their interviews. In this case, it should be it could be Lyman. But how do they recruit these people and keep them quiet? Blackmail NDA. Well, you you wouldn't even have to blackmail them. There wouldn't have to be an NDA. You just form the narrative in their head very early on and then you say, "Hey, you should talk to this lady. She's she's recording a video. Tell her what you saw." And you've already planted the the story. And then you work with the media. So they they may not even know that they're playing a role. That's the thing with the whole production. You've got actors that may not even know they're actors. Do you think you would have found your way to YouTube if you hadn't done the radio show? No. Never in a million years. Absolutely never in a million years. Because the person who convinced me to to start podcasting, uh, seriously start podcast. I had a lot of people suggest it, but I just never took him up on it. Um, the person who really finally convinced me to start podcasting, And and and again, you like you can tell if someone's comfortable behind a microphone. You can tell by watching them. How do they, you know, does their does does their voice change or do they just talk like this the whole time? You know, and do they talk fast enough? Do they do they sound natural like you're just in the room with them? And and you know, you go back and listen to my early radio shows, I did not sound natural. I was very very scared of the microphone uh 10 15 years ago. I had to say f Lloyd because YouTube wouldn't let me spell it. Wouldn't let you spell Floyd. Uh look after your bladder. You only have one. How do you know that? Long show is so appreciated by myself and many of us bear nights. Your work is admirable. Thank you. A kind word there. Uh love you man, but for today you need to zoom out. Obviously people assume gun sound. No one immediately thinks road mic bomb. By the way, check email for rich rate. Um, the emails get checked. I promise. I um listen, if I I'm gonna disagree with you because if you had a bunch of people take to if you had a bunch of people take to television and the immediate reaction was that did not sound like a gunshot. I don't know what happened to him. I know he got a hole in his neck, but that did not sound like a gunshot. You would immediately plant in everyone's mind that something else happened. But if you immediately have the whole news blanketed and and people on the scene saying he got shot, he got shot, he got shot, he got shot, he got shot, he got shot, and everyone saying he got shot and the news is calling. You remember Andrew Kulovit's interview where the news called him to confirm. Can you confirm Charlie Kirk has been shot? I mean, what if he could say, "I don't know. Everybody at the scene saying it sound like a firecracker." Like, it's a totally different story at that point.Uh, chat, can y'all please stop telling this man what to do with the show? I don't care. I'm open to it. Uh, thanks. Love from Houston, Texas. I don't mind hearing people's feedback if they want. I don't mind listening to it. Um, I have to do on a lighter note. If Candace and Shapiro did a two-hour debate, it would take 7.5 seconds. A record player on a 78 inch. Yes, I'm old. Of hit home, I went to Newcast. Um, the only thing I know about 78s is there's a line in a Jimmy Buffett song. Um, the ice cream man is a hillbilly fan. Got 78s by Hank Snow. Walks down the street shuffling his feet to a rhythm that only he knows. But I've seen him in too many places. I saw him the night I was born in a Bourbon Street bar. I received my first scar. All right, I'll stop singing u the wino and I know. But uh that's the only thing I know about 78s is the line that line from the wino and I know by Jimmy Buffet. Great song by the way. Great song. Jimmy Buffett's a goat. Uh Baron, no need to fib. We all know you I know coach likes telling people that. I don't mind playing the role of the elder statesman of the uh of the group. I know podcasting is a young man's game and I'm coming here with a mostly gray beard. I get it. Wrinkles around the eyes. Trust me, I know what's going on. I get it. I get it. I like to tell him I'm more experienced. The next shave of Iran equals Habibi. It's pretty clear he has rigged our system effectively and thoroughly, sadly. And no doubt Charlie's hit. Um, I thought it was interesting cuz they said they wanted regime change, they kill the Ayatollah, they announce a new one, and now they're trying to kill him. Like, have we talked to him? Do we know what his goals are? What if he's like, "Oh, everything's good. Stop." No, we're just going to keep killing people. Off topic, I missed the live until now for a soccer banquet, but I wanted to encourage people to watch Father Chad Ripperburgger on Shawn Ryan today. It was so powerful. Christ is King. I like Father Chad River. I didn't know he was on Shawn Ryan today. I'll check it out. Uh, what are your thoughts on Erica's family linked to so much gambling corruption, including the 1919 Black Sox scandal, Arnold Roststein being the kingpin allegedly. Thank you for all you do. Uh, Arnold Roststein is not a blood relative of Erica Kirk. Um, I don't think I'm pretty sure he's not, which would make his relatives not. Um, so I don't know what to make. Uh, 3 to 4 hours is great. I hate it when Candace ends her shows after 35 to 70 minutes. Hugs Hendersonville, Tennessee. Well, doesn't she end all of them within before 70 minutes or most of them? Um, uh, Hendersonville, Tennessee. I know where that is. It's just up the road. That's the home of uh, Joseph Nuggard, Indie 500 winner, multi multi-time Indie Car champion, Joseph Neworn. Uh, also the home of Johnny Cash, I believe. Didn't he live in Hendersonville? Bear Run. You and CO are the reason I'm sleepdeprived. I live in South Africa. Cannot miss you guys. Co show at 12:30 a.m. followed by yours. It is 4:54 a.m. now. Still watching sleeper no sleep longer a word of sleep. No longer a word in my vocabulary. Uh my friend, you're working the third shift pod. You're working the podcast. Third shift. How to win friends and influence people could be dangerous in the hands of a narcissist. I don't know about that. It's got a lot of built-in safeguards. Send TPS USA fundraiser form back with questions for Erica in extra section.That way they're all connected. Uh the way they're all connected is just beyond madness. Yes, it's weird at this point. Could create a daily calendar. 365 lies told by Erica Kirby. You'd need two years. How do you feel about the message Gary put on X today about you? I don't pay attention to Gary. I had no idea he put it. All he wants is attention. All he wants is attention. If I address it, if I pay attention to it, that's Uh, I see nothing about me. Oh. Oh, I see. Oh. Oh. He He should be getting ethics complaints filed with the Florida bar. He knows he's lying. He's making a lot. That's ludicrous. If you're going to file ethics complaint, do it. I got three bars you can file with. Florida, Alabama, Tennessee. File away. I had somebody that was frustrated with something I said on the air in Alabama and filed an ethics complaint and there are sanctions associated ladies and gentlemen if you file a meritless complaint. So, um I'll be happy to pursue that again if if someone wants to go that route. Uh people in other chats said we were super chatting in ciphers because the capitalization we use to save of spaces to save money. Please don't talk in cipher and and coordinate things. Please uh learn Sublime today myself in one of my favorite bands in high school. You are not alone. Thank you. I I mean I knew it was a cool word. I just didn't know exactly what it meant. Lots of love and prayers from Oklahoma. That was a cool play. Oklahoma love what you and all the others are doing with this investigation. But if we aren't using the legal system to push the feds to do their job, isn't it just entertainment? Crisis King. Go Max. Um uh Crisis King indeed. Yeah, I we uh we are pushing the feds to do their job, right? Well, it's not it's a state investigation. I think the feds have kind of wiped their hands of it after the they had a roll. They had a roll like everybody else. Hats off. Hats off, sir Baron. Wow, you just keep killing every time. What a show. What a high IQ entertainment outfit for subs. Thank you for your hard work. Very interesting. Are you listening, Gary? I think Gary's mad because he he like lobbs volleys at me and I don't respond and and I think it bothers him. But I don't respond because I don't punch You know, if someone with a million views a night punching at me, I might punch back. Probably still won't because I don't like getting involved in those creator spats, but I would at least be in intrigued. But Gary getting mad that the show is successful. That's a weird thing to punch back at. Uh yo, this isn't a fast food drive-thru. It's a five-star restaurant and subs have high IQ appetite. Pace don't change a thing. Counselor Crisis King indeed. I will not I will not change a thing. Everyone thought it was a firework. Proof it was Erica. Oh my gosh, that is great. You just slay me. That is hilarious. That is very funny. Well played. Golly, well played. That is so good. Everyone thought it was a firework. Was she wearing a gold glitter suit? Some kind of group show in celebration of how Charlie has continued to create friendships, but you guys having fun? Some kind of group show in celebration. Um, I don't know what that means, but we we'll keep having fun and we'll keep forming friendships. No doubt about that. Uh, please do the members chat at 1. I'll be on my lunch break. Any research or Jeb on Jeb's parents might give some insight as to why he's in Utah. Yeah, we have insight on Jeb Jeb's parents for sure.And grandparents, as a matter of fact, um, it's interesting some of it. Not not finalized, not ready for production, but yes, the answer is yes. If Erica ever sent you her degree, you should hang it on your wall. I've got space. Hey, if Erica sends me her degree, I will move the Aztec calendar and put it right there so it hangs over me. Erica, not only will we sit coach next to each other, I'll sit in the middle. I told you last night I would make you sit in the middle. I will not. Your next two trips are on me. I will buy your tickets if you will fly coach. Leave the Gulfream 5 at home. Leave the Cessna citation at home. We're flying coach. We're going Southwest, baby. We're going budget. We're flying Spirit. I'm just kidding. I don't know anything about these places. They might be fine. Not done with part one and not seen this one yet, but Alexandra Helen Kak on the same page as Eric and Grad list. Any relation? I'm behind if this is old news. Uh I don't know if there's a relation or not. That's a good call though. I have not come across the name Alexandra in this, so it might just be uh God is good. Christ is king. Jesus loves you all. Christ is king indeed. Uh yeah, Jesus loves you. We'll be talking about that here before too terribly long. Uh oh my gosh, you didn't use spaces. I'm coming in for the kill here. Kak and his group had been banned from CK events. Early report showed Destiny and others in their org sneaking past security at other CK events. Odd how KACK was then approved. Yes, I could not agree more. That's a good call. Uh and we need to we need to dig into that a little more and I need to dig into your use of spacing. Looking forward to my first member show tomorrow and thank you. looking forward to our first member show tomorrow. And thank you. I can't tell if you guys make mistakes when you say things twice or you just making fun of me because I say everything twice. Lyman saying boom boom was practice making sure the kid knew how to respond. It was only one shot. Also 306 didn't exit MLK. We've talked about the MLK thing. Go look up the facts. Totally different scenario. Charlie Kirk's alleged bullet hit very soft tissue that only has about two inches of soft tissue Martin Luther King hit like five bones, tore off the side of his face, tore his neck in half, and busted bones in his chest and shoulder. Totally different scenario. That is absolutely totally different scenario. A lot of these people showed up in the Google Trends. I'm going to have to clean that up later. We didn't have time to get into all that. Uh, a lot of these people showed up in Google Trends overseas in the months leading up to this. So, there's more coming. It's just how much can you do in one day, you know? Uh, my daughter's home from Auburn watching you for the first time. War Eagle. Uh, War Eagle. Notice the Auburn pennant hanging here. Show your daughter. Had a great time at Auburn, but I've been gone a long time. Actually, I was on the air in Auburn in 20 20. I think I had a radio show in Auburn in 2020. I think that was the year. Um, can't remember the call letters. It was 93.1. No, 93.1 was a different market. It was 93.9, I think. 93.9. Uh, in Auburn. Uh, F1 over NASCAR every day of the week. You're a troll and I love it. Uh me adfleet. Guilty is charged. I'm not a troll. I'm not a troll. Uh there's a bull called the Titan circa 18 a book called the Titan circa 1995 about the se sinking of the luxury ship that was unsinkable.Hit an iceberg and sank. Didn't have enough lifeboats to probably approximately 20 years before the Titanic sank. I did an opening on the Titanic not terribly long ago and and several commenters raised that book. Thanks for all you guys are doing. Crisis King. Uh Crisis King indeed. Uh thanks for watching. You know, without you guys, we don't have much of a show. Uh Baron, great show tonight as usual. If I ever get in trouble, I certainly wish you would still be an attorney. However, I'm 76 years old and probably won't ever get into trouble. I hope not at 76. My goodness. What would a 76 year old do to get in trouble? What would you even do? Like jaywalk and even then it might not be too too fast. Maybe that's how you get caught. You're not fleeing the scene. Surely. Uh you're about to have this in the bag. Crisis king. Christ is king. Christ is king. Indeed. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. I don't like war merch, please. This concept is lost on too many Americans these days. Great work as always. Baron go. Yeah, the bloodthirsty Facebook and Twitter posts are a little much for me. What if I told you the left wing and right-wing are both a part of the bird? Time for us all to see it's There's a lot of emojis there. I can't see those. Was live when luckily one hour later but Baron still broadcasting. Thank you for doing what you want to do cuz now I have 100% capability to send you this. Thank you. I watch yours and others at least two times. Oh, two times a lot of Baron. Uh, but I admit sometimes I have to watch Candace twice to to catch everything. First time using super chats, but I wanted to let you know that you have helped me so much. I've been struggling hard the last few months, but I find happiness while watching you. So, thank you, Baron. Oh, thank you, Destiny May. Thank you. And I'm sorry you're struggling. I hope you uh hope you can B, you co both talked about by Janet Smith positively on Catholic Unscripted last night. So many trolls they put the episode behind a payw wall. Really? Uh, I like Janet Smith. I've known about her for years. Um, we first encountered Janet Smith in 2007 or 8 at our church. So, the parish we went to had a um I don't remember what it was, but it was this like uh giant easel and it had all these places for CDs. This is back when CDs were a thing. And you could take a CD and you just put a buck or two into the donation portal and then if you brought it back, you could grab another one, just kind of trade them out. And u Janet Smith was one of them. And it was um it was a it was a pro-life CD and we passed it around and let people listen to it and all that. Uh but I like Janet Smith. I like Janet Smith a lot. I'd have to I can't watch it because it's behind a pay wall, you say. But uh you never mentioned if Charlie had a white tattoo cuz I don't know. I don't think he did, but I don't know. I remember telling my husband Charlie was just shot. They've killed him. He asked who now I know that it was playing in my head. Yeah, someone told you he was shot. That's part of the production in my opinion. My mom got me the CK book for my birthday. She doesn't know what we know, but in the beginning there was a forward by EK had acknowledgement to Rob McCoy and David Inglehart. Interesting. A what's interesting is Rob McCoy has fallen off the face of the earth. You notice that we started digging into his old sermons and he stopped going out in public.He was he was everywhere for a little while and then we started going hard after him and he disappeared off the planet. That guy is nowhere to be found. Nor his son. He's smart. Uh that doesn't mean I'm done with him. I watched 12 years worth of Rob McCoy sermons. I got all the way back to 2010 with that guy. Uh Beyon Glitter Bits finally said the quiet part out loud and you cut her off. This is much deeper than one person. Thanks for what you do. Go back. Glitter Bits. That's what we're calling her now. I prefer to call her the little firecracker. The glitter bits. H. We don't bits. Your now empty picture draped in black shows you that you mourn the demise of DJT so much more than EK's ever mourned CK. Crisis King. Um, yeah, I do mourn what happened. I There was so much hope there. You go back to 2015, 2016, there was so much hope for Donald Trump and it just it's not what we voted for. How do you deal with Christian family members who say Shabbat shalom on the daily? Do we just try not to engage? Don't Don't fight with your family. I mean, I I wouldn't fight with my family over that. I mean, you you pick your battles One year sober. Wow. Allegedly, maybe and perhaps. Now, are you allegedly maybe and perhaps one year sober or are you one year sober? Congratulations, by the way. 365 days is a heck of an accomplishment. March 5th will be an anniversary date hopefully for you for many years to come. I hope you celebrate it annually without booze. Cracks me up every time. I don't know what that means. Enjoy your show. God bless. I don't I'm not going to lie to you and say you I tell you I know what it means if I don't know what it means. Response too late for today, but I will respond with two sentences. Proving Earth flat. Weather, GPS, celestial navigation, mapping, building, flight, including the globe earth model. Every measurement requires a planet. Um, I've looked into it like I fell deep into the hole. Um, not because I thought it was flat, just because I was curious of the arguments. So, I dug and dug. I read, I listened, I watched. I left unconvinced. I left unconvinced. Hi, Baron. Faded crimson hoodie is definitely your best color. Wow. Talking about the hamburger meat hoodie. I'm talking about the the rare prime rib hoodie, the bean paste hoodie, the kidney bean colored hoodie. Brings out your warm skin tones and makes you look younger. Might want to consider that as a wall color. I don't need mauve walls. This isn't 1984. Thank you and God bless. But thank you for the kind compliments. Wow. Gifted 10 memberships. 10 of you guys are going to have a good time tomorrow. Gary was complaining about you making $12,500 in four days with super chats. I don't think I did. I'm pretty confident I didn't. Um, he forgets several things. One is YouTube takes a huge cut. Um, but the other thing I don't think that math adds up because that certainly was not uh that not reflected in the stats. I can assure you of that. Uh, but tell Gary to be a better podcaster and people might want to donate and and interact with him and support him. Uh, we will when will we see you and Tucker Carlson do an interview and podcast together. Uh, he I've not been invited and I I've not invited him on my show, but I don't know that he would come on. Uh, I've not been invited on his show. I'd love to do Tucker Carlson. He's a a big like I I don't love everything he's ever said, but I love his heart. I think his heart is in the right place. 99 times out of 100.And if someone's heart's in the right place, I I feel like I can get along with them almost anytime. Uh, right. Makes sense. If it was to happen under his shirt, Erica's comment would make sense. She said in an interview, I asked him to wear a bulletproof vest. Um, yeah. Did she ask him to wear a bulletproof vest? I thought they canceled that contract to switch vendors or something. I was just responding to Frank Turk about Hibs and Hibs arrived to visit Charlie or something that was supposed to mean to me. Lol or something that's supposed to mean to me. Well, I don't I I hate to just say this because I just I don't know what that means. Uh and Hibs arrived to visit Charlie. Yeah. So, the story is that Butch Hibbs was just dying to meet Charlie. and he just happened to show up with a road microphone sized square in his pocket. Whatever, for whatever reason, uh, witnesses Tiffany Barker and nieces L Steel and Mia Grant speak out. These people are related to Phil Lyman. 100% sent you an email with receipts. Yeah, again, we could have played interviews all day. The point was just to show that the connections between all these people. When I get to the Phil Lyman show, we'll talk more about um the family related to Phil Lyman and their roles as well. We're not quite there yet. Maybe firecracker was from the van trunk trunk open. Set a firecracker with trunk up to amplify sound and then trunk shut. I've never bought the trunk having much involvement. I don't know why. It's kind of like palm gun to me. It's just not something I put much stock into. Um I don't know what the trunk would be doing and so I I'm left with no role for the trunk and that's kind of where I am on that. But I I'm open to learning more about Trunkgate. Trunk Gate. Uh first- time listener, first- time caller. Thank you for your bravery. I'll be watching more. Get up and pee if you have to. Oh, Dixon, if this is your first time, you have no idea how badly I have to pee at the end of these shows. And you have no idea how hard the nurses and doctors take it that I uh that I don't. Baron, your show is perfect, including layout and timing. Thank you. Finally. Thank you. Someone who gets it. I can't. A viewer can stop watching at any time. Just watch opening statement, main content. Don't stay for the chats. Jeez. Yeah, that's my thing. Pick what you like. You like the Q&A, watch that. If you like the content, watch that. If you like the opening, watch that. If you like it all, you're welcome to hang around with the rest of us. Repeat a lie long enough and people will eventually believe it. Uh, but I think even more importantly, repeat it early enough. That's the key to tonight and last night. You repeat the lie early enough, you plant the lie as fact, even though it's not. That's so it's it's a combination there. Uh I'm with you on the palm pistol, but what if it was a cap, gun, or blank to make the sound only? It it wasn't. There's nothing in his hand. Uh and not only that, he the hand moves after the after the sound. Uh Christ in our midst. In our midst, says a grumbler in our midst. Whoa. A $100 grumbler. Shoes and socks with wigs and philosophical words and phrases. Everybody else is saying weird things tonight, so I figured I'd do the same. Amazing work you and Daisy I don't understand that first part, but I understand what you're saying. Everybody else is saying weird stuff, so I I will allow the weirdness for now. I will allow the weirdness for now.Uh, great show, Baron. Prayers for you and your family from South Texas, specifically Macallen. Do I know where McAllen is? Are you near a military base down there? Uh, on your out, remember to hit that like button. Yes. Yes. Yes. Like and subscribe and all that stuff. How many Where are we in a respectable number of likes or we still the dregs of like A pathetic number of likes. You know, I like to chastise you towards the end of the show about the likes. Come on, hit the like button. It's free. Doesn't cost you a thing. helps the algorithm push the show out to others so that they can be educated. First time super chat. Anyone else starting to feel like this is a reverse scop? How can this be such a sloppy op? Well, that's interesting. Tyler Robinson's team needs special prosecutor Baron Coleman. Gez, what are they doing? I special prosecutor. I'd be on the other side. I'd be prosecuting Tyler Robinson. Don't want to do that. I don't think he's guilty of shooting anyone. Uh, you've missed my super chats last two nights, but I have to say Shabbat shalom. Baron, our humble host, is home. But don't throw your phone in a drawer because there's far far more to this story and we need you on the case. I've not missed them on purpose. My My wife told me I missed a couple last night that I pulled it up and I went past it. Like I pulled it back down, I went past I didn't mean to. Um, I do I do sometimes get when we're pushing four plus hours, I'll sometimes have to skip a few to get through it. Uh, thank you. Great show. Crisis King. Crisis King indeed. You're welcome. Thank you for the compliment. Only 3,639 days until Baron might talk about Butler. You said a while. If we're still here in a decade, you might talk to us. Yeah, I I'll I'll go ahead and set that show for a decade out. There might be a slight delay after that. Uh, like the show people. I'll be in Pleasant View, Tennessee next Thursday through Monday. Suggestions for the area. I got to figure out where that is. Pleasant View, Tennessee. Sounds beautiful. Uh, where is Pleasant View? Oh, Chetm County. Um, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you're going to make it into Nashville at all. Uh, it's beautiful area up there. You're kind of near Clarksville. Clarks Clarksville up that way. Um, I don't really have any thoughts on that particular area. I don't know much about it. You look like you're what, 30 minutes, 40 minutes from Nashville up there. Good luck. Have fun. Enjoy yourself. Roll that beautiful bean footage. No one would ever dare make fun of the elderly, sir. I would not. I would not. I hope to I hope to join them one day. Did you hear about F1 connection to Epstein? I I did not. How about interview with Chris Martinson, Peak Prosperity on Member Show? He's great. Lots of issues. It's not CK. Think you'd enjoy. Um I don't know. I I know him. I mean, I've I've covered his work. Um, but uh I uh I'm not familiar enough with it to for a whole show. Someone's saying that uh Liam might have been on KTL channel 5 and not just the podcast channel 5. If so, they got past me. I'm not trying to hide the ball there. Um I I think Chris Martinson's done a good job with with um some of his coverage. I don't watch like intently everything he puts out. So, I don't uh I don't know that I would I would be the best interviewer of Chris Martinson. I'd have to do a lot of prep for that because he puts out a lot of content. I think I saw an Auburn license plate that said WGL WGL. Thought of you.We wiggle wiggle war darn eagle kick him in the big blue. Uh podcasts aren't long enough. My co-workers still won't even consider there being something different than Charlie Kirk being shot. Your coworker is not alone. There are a lot of people like that. Totally off topic. Please don't chastise me for this. I'll be the judge of whether you get chastised. Here we go. I have counsel, but we are in need of input for a case for the MO Missouri Supreme Court. May I email you for your input? No, I don't know anything about Missouri law. Although I did try Well, I didn't try a case in Missouri. I had a client in Missouri, but the case ended up settling. Um, I had to go to Springfield, Missouri for some depositions. It was a cool a cool drive. I drove over there. Uh, how did Jeb Jacobe get a selfie with Charlie Kirk half an hour before the Big Bang if Charlie Kirk only got to UVU minutes after being driven down from Salt Lake City? That's a good question. Um, his timing may have just been off because Charlie Kirk after he got there did get out and take some pictures with some of the volunteers. And we know that because um Charles uh Wilson, what's his name? Charles uh Mcccleintoch Wilson, he took pictures of Charlie Kirk taking pictures. It was kind of inception moment. Benjamin Netanyahu worst US president ever. Also really ready and willing to pay for your assessments and suggestions. Alth I'm I'm not going to consult on a legal case in Missouri. I I don't I don't know enough about it. The Bible is enough to convince me the earth is set and does not move, but his handiwork continued to prove this. Bless you. Christ is king. Christ is king indeed. I'm not not disputing the Bible. I just am not convinced by the flat earth. Uh I kind of miss Rob the Sailor Man. I do too. I do too. We may do a Rob McCoy show soon. We need to We need to look closer at him. I would love to see you have Katherine Austin Fitz on a members. I'd like to get her on a She'd be a great guest. Are you sure Paul White No. No, I'm not. I'm not at all sure she's not EK's mom. That's a that's a weird a weird thought. Um guys, I've enjoyed it. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button, hit the notification button, tell your friends and family, share it out, give them something specific to watch. Say, "Hey, look at hour one minute five hour 1 hour 5 minutes 32 seconds. Watch for 10 minutes." Give them something specific to watch. Share it around. Uh I think they'll enjoy it. You follow me on X at Baron Coleman. You can uh listen on Spotify if you missed the show. It's a great way to catch up. Uh, obviously the Grumblers are over there if you ever want to grumble. We love you grumblers. I'm not talking bad about you over there. I do keep them in a cornrow because they get out of control sometimes. Um, I'll be back tomorrow for the member show at 1:00. Um, roughly 1:00. It might be 1:30, might be two, but it'll probably be around 1, one or two, somewhere in there. Central time, Central Standard Time. Uh, I'll be up a little late tonight watching some Formula 1 and then we'll launch into the uh the show tomorrow. Uh, Sunday night we'll be back. I'm working on a show that I think will be interesting if I can nail down all the facts. Um, if not, I'm not going to cover something that I'm not sure about. So, we'll have to get there for that. Uh, in the meantime, don't forget Jesus loves you. All right, guys. Have a good night. I hope to see you soon.Members, I will be here tomorrow. Oneish, we'll get weird because that's what we do. Maybe two-ish, but we'll get