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COMMENTARY by Candace Owens — "LEAKED! Erika’s Texts, TPUSA Contracts, And The J6 Patsy’s Connection To Tyler Robinson. | Ep 396" (published 2026-10-01).
This is third-party opinion/analysis ABOUT State of Utah v. Tyler James Robinson — NOT the court record. It is indexed for comparison against the primary transcripts/filings. Transcript is the YouTube auto-caption track (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4m-kGzvwjw) — verbatim ASR.
All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. I hope everybody tried on their heaven focused excuse at work today because how could you be expected to do anything or know anything at work if you're paranoid about getting into heaven? That's that's the way forward. Anyway, the Vanity Fair writer certainly knew that Erica was a fraud. Like, we know that she is a fraud. But in case you're still imagining that she is this hybrid Catholico evangelical princess, I'm going to set you guys straight by showing you some text messages that Erica sent last year following her husband's death to the team. Now, in one fell swoop, we received contracts that Turning Point USA signed as well back in 2025, which in my view confirm uh my general suspicion that Charlie's tour came together rather quickly and it was perhaps because he was put under financial pressure. We're going to talk about that. Also, we have to discuss the other Federal Py story, Brian J. poll, a black autistic man who was effectively tortured by the feds into taking responsibility for dropping off the pipe bombs on January 5th, the night before January 6th. And there's actually a very strange coincidence to his story that has something to do with Tyler Robinson's story. So, let's jump right Everybody grieavves differently. That's why I want you guys to remember. Some people grieve by thinking about how much money they can make through the art of grieving. So on Monday, it was confirmed by Vanity Fair that yes, Erica assumed her husband's position as CEO and chairman within 48 hours of his untimely death. That's really quick. And that's because I if if Doug Degrroot is to be believed, board member Doug Degrroot, also financial adviser to Charlie and Erica, it's because the organization was immediately placed under pressure from journalists not to provide updates about the as of yet unlocated killer because remember that took 33 hours before they found Tyler Robinson. So you would think that if they were contacting public relations at Turning Point USA, they're they would want updates about that. But know according to Doug Degroot, the journalists were just pressuring them to know within that crucial time frame who's going to replace Charlie. We don't we don't even care about the assassination. Who's going to replace him? Okay, Doug. Not what I was told. Actually, I fact checked that with the person who was directly responsible for fielding the PR request, the same person who had to write the death statement uh to hand over to the media. But apparently Doug Degrroot, the board member, would know better than her. But we're going to just stick with Doug's story anyway. Okay, let's stick with Doug's story that they saw this pressure from journalists and that's why they had to rush to name Erica. Most of us assumed that when the announcement arrived, it was just meant to serve as a public morale boost. I was happy when I heard privately and then a few days later they announced it publicly. We were just like, "Okay, great." Like, somebody in Charlie's life will take over this company. Nobody imagined that Erica was actually in the office. Nobody imagined that Erica was taking Zoom calls. Nobody imagined that she was announcing Turning Point 2.0, giggling on Zoom calls, celebrating how much money that they had made at Charlie's Memorial in merch sales all within the first two weeks. And then we discovered that and things felt very weird and wrong. And we went back and we tried to figure out what actually happened here. And that's not really it. As we discussed her general mood in those weeks after Charlie's assassination, you will also recall they eventually made the terribly crash decision to encase Charlie's bloodied microphone as an emotional appeal to donors at their annual Mara Lago event, also at Amfest. And by the way, regarding the Mara Lago event, it worked. They allegedly raised $40 million at that event in part due to things that were meant to pull at your heartstrings. You know, Erica photographed next to the microphone looking down sad. I just thought you guys should know that in the leadup to that event, and this is because people at Turning Point USA are pretty disgusted um and feeling lied to about a lot of things. uh especially now with the UVU independent review, they're realizing that they just weren't told the entire truth about things. But I want you guys to know that in the leadup to that Mara Lago event, obviously Erica was the CEO and she was communicating with Teams via Telegram. And what she was interested was knowing the names of a very specific kind of attendee to that Mara Lago event, the extremely wealthy, rich kind, offensively rich kind of attendees attendees. She put together a telegram group that was entitled Dominate 2.0. And I just was so offended by this message that she sent out to them. She wrote, quote, "Who are the big hitters that you guys have coming this weekend? Also, do we have good people coming on Sunday? I want a full list. I sorry, can I have a full list of donors that are coming this weekend so I can make notes?" Erica was concerned wanting to know who the heavy hitters were. The mood of that, first off, just describing donors as big hitters, something about that disturbs me. It makes the people on the internet who assess that her focus has been money since the very beginning like it's not like who are our biggest supporters? Who are the people that are uh at the top of the list in terms of supporting this organization who have gotten behind us? Give me the heavy hitters. Who are the who the heavy hitters are going to be here this weekend so I can uh get ready to cry. And then Taylor Scornovako responds. You can bring that back up. And actually Taylor does is not calling him heavy hitter. She says, "We have some very strong people coming on Sunday. Lots of brand new sixf figure donors." Seems more appropriate than referring to them as big hitters. And she says, "I will drop the full list here, sorted by MGO. MGOS's, please go through and highlight and add notes to any names that Erica should key in on." She wants those heavy hitters. We're the big hitters. Yeah. I am just going to reinforce once again. We are just done with the grieving widow narrative. It's over. It's ended. Nobody cares. Nobody cares about the bot campaigns or the people that are paid to pretend that she's a grieving widow. You guys are just all cancelled. You're all canceled. You're all done. I have to say somewhere between where the heavy hitters where are the heavy hitters at and her sharing the final moments of her children with Andrew Wilson and text messages with the slob like Andrew Wilson. You've lost the crowd. No one believes you anymore. Moving on from that, last year, very early on in our investigation, I had received a tip from someone within the organization while I was being attacked and gaslit for just asserting my experience, having worked with Turning Point USA for years that the tour came together quite unusually. And the person reached out to me and said, "No, you're you're on the money there." I quite literally was on the money. I was expressing that even Utah doing back-to-back Utah stops separated by 10 days didn't make sense to me. Usually we would do a corridor in a sweep. So if you were going to do California, do back to back to back so that you're, you know, not wasting travel time. Why would you want to travel to and fro to Utah if you could do them back toback? Especially because the universities are like 45 minutes apart. Well, the person uh told me that Charlie had agreed to doing those stops because he was under a lot of pressure to make more money. Of course, we know what happened in July. You had these Zionist donors who were pulling out because of his shifting stance on Israel. A shifting stance that Turning Point USA still will not acknowledge, which is very strange. Everyone has acknowledged it. Even Vanity Fair, you could see it in Charlie's rhetoric. But they just keep pretending that that wasn't happening. But when Bob Showman pulled millions, and he wasn't the only one who pulled millions, others did as well, Charlie was wanting to make up that money elsewhere. And I was told uh that the company Y Refi came in with a ton a ton of extra money and they had also, you know, in this nice offer to make up some of the lost revenue. And that person also said to me, and I'm going to say allegedly here, that they were given a say as to where Charlie's tour stops would be. Now, we can't confirm that they were given a say because at that time, we didn't have anything concrete to back up that assertion. Uh fortunately though, like I said, the UVU independent review has further disgusted many employees working at Turning Point USA who feel that we stood by you. We hated Candace for you and now you have been caught lying. And while I still cannot demonstrate that why Rei hand selected Utah Valley University, there is actually no evidence for that outside of hearsay. What I can certainly confirm now is that they did come in with an addendum to their pre-existing 2025 contract. Uh, and they came in in July and the numbers are it's a lot of money. The number adjustments are staggering if you ask me. So, foremost, let's back up. Who is Y Refi? Who are we speaking about? Well, if you ask the employees at Turning Point USA, um, past and current, and I have had those conversations with them, they will tell you that they are just shady in general. They came in as a massive sponsor for Turning Point USA in 2024, of course, right after Candace stopped touring with Charlie Kirk and when things just started changing. And they, according to Turning Point USA employees, have a lot of conflicts of interests. For example, uh Turning Point USA's sponsorship guy, the sponsorship lead is Dylan Ericson. Uh he was once an employee of Turning Point uh of Turning Point USA. They say now he's a contractor, I'll say allegedly. Uh but he's also employed or paid by Y Refi. So that would be a conflict of interest. There's a lot of that going on at Turning Point USA. I am actually going to create a chart for you how everyone's like got their hand in the cookie jar several different ways working for different companies and LLC's where um the incentives are conflicting. There's no question Dylan also uh runs an influencer management company that the one that flew out all of the pro-Israel influencers to the Hamptons that one ill- fated weekend. And like I said, there's just a lot of that throughout the organization, but let's stay focused on why refi. So, Turning Point employees, past and present, say they don't really understand how why Rei makes any money. They also don't really understand uh the relationship that they have with Turning Point USA. Apparently, they have a lot of contracts, but they don't ever really pay up. I'm going to say allegedly, cuz I can't confirm that, but they have a lot of money. Officially, Y Refi is a student loan refinancing company that is run by CEO Lane Shonberger. Now, you will note that Lane Shonberger and his daughter and Dylan Ericson were all at UVU on the day of Charlie's assassination. They flew in together. And it looks like it's not just the employees who say that it's a shady company because a few months ago, mainstream media picked up on this and began covering Y refi as well. Check out this headline. This is in the Daily Mail. It was also uh covered uh in the UK International Business Times. And the headline is shady student loan refinance company accused of paying Turning Point USA for speaking slots so that it can pitch to college kids. Quote, "The biggest regret of my life." Now, in the article, we learn the that it reads, quote, "A student loan refinancing company with a documented history of misleading investment claims has been paying Turning Point USA for coveted speaking slots at its campus events so that it can pitch its controversial lending and investment options to college kids and their families." At least the Daily Mail can reveal Ryi last year faced $750,000 in state sanctions in a settlement of accusations of deceptive marketing and investment materials aimed at private funders who bankroll its refinancing of distressed and defaulted college loans. The company did not admit or deny the accusations. Watchd dogs are sounding the alarm that its sponsorship deal with Turning Point has turned the late Charlie Kirk's nonprofit into a platform for what they say are potentially misleading financial deals. This is a shady company, warrant Allan Kh, founder of Student Loan Justice, a consumer protection group. He continues, quote, Charlie Kirk promoted fiscal responsibility. It's very ironic that his group would be working with a company that has been caught deceiving investors. End quote. Turning Point has refused to comment for this story. I should say Turning Point 2.0 never comments for a story. They're always up to it. There's always this stuff circulating. This is 2.0, just so you know. Um, watchdog company. This is not 1.0. This is dominate 2.0. And how do you dominate? Just by being shady, I think. Not answering any questions. Anyway, uh it goes on and tell us that Wy co-founder Lane Shonberger told us his company has made changes to its investment marketing materials and has put to bed potentially 2.1 million in regulatory woes that it had in Massachusetts in 2025. He founded the company with Dennis Fster maker in 2017. Okay. So, I also want to consider this company uh in the larger picture of me having explained to you that Charlie noticed that money was missing at Turning Point USA. Uh that there was trouble specifically with Turning Point action and Turning Point has declined those claims, but the claims came from Turning Point. So, you know whose narrative you're going to believe? I'm going to go with people that say money was missing. I don't believe that Charlie established a Doge for no reason seven days before he died. I just I don't my it just doesn't pass the sniff test for me that he just did that because la no reason. I think money was missing. But anyway, um I want you to now take a look at CEO Lane Shonberger's contract with Turning Point USA. There's going to be two that we're going to show you. The first was signed in February of 2025. Okay, February of 2025. They sign a contract and I want you to note that it's a very detailed contract with which covers events all the way through to February of 20126. The contract um is for a total of 2.25 million for the following. Okay, so it says Y refi shall pay TPUSA a total of 2.25 million for the benefits out outlined below. The organization will pay TPUSA using the options sent separately. Invoice will be sent upon request. Okay. Now, it tells us the payment due dates. If you actually total the payments, you might notice that actually it's 2.479. Uh so 2.47 million. I don't maybe they're rolling over from the previous year. I don't know. It seems weird if they are because the contract says explicitly that all previous contracts are voided and canceled. So this should represent everything. Could be a mistake. could be an oversight. I'm not going to be the person to be uh looking into doing a deep dive or auditing the finances. Anyway, here are the benefits of the contract. They are able to uh sponsor. They're sponsoring the winter gayla. They get platinum table, premier seating, two rooms, the four seasons, name recognition in a program. Uh they're also going to be a part of America America Fest's uh 2024 donor dinner. I think they meant to say 2025 because obviously if this contract were signed on February 5th, it's not the donor dinner from 2024 or it shouldn't be. Maybe it is. Riley Gains is going to be the keynote speaker dinner for 50. The attendees are are going to be 10K plus annually. Then you have the spring investor retreat in 2025. They want banners. They want to bring four people. Then you have a young woman's leadership summit. They want mainstage for a minute. email blast, VIP lounge sponsorship, executive tickets, hyperl logo placement, the strong church event, which I I don't know if that actually ends up happening, 60-cond mainstage videos, email to attendees, executive tickets, hyperl placement, then the big one, student action summit, and things are going to go sideways there. VIP lounge, hyperl logo, text to attendees, email to all attendees. You have the believer summit that ended up being cancelled, by the way. VIP lounge sponsorship, hyperl logo placement, text to attendees. They get a kiosk ad, a two-minute mainstage video, an LED premium booth, and 10 minutes of mainstage speaking. America Fest, same thing. Just kind of repeated there of what they're going to get at the big end of year events. Now, they are highly invested in Riley Gaines. I can tell you that. Kind of explains her, if you ask me, it explains her uh general mood these days. Uh, she's the girl that lost one race swimming against Leah Thomas and tried to spin it into a career. Um, event appearances, they want her for the Winter Gayla, America Fest, the spring investor retreat, the social media post, IG story for each event, three time video endorsements shot at Turning Point USA headquarters and events. So, they're invested in her direct mail as well, you can see. And then they have a brands we trust section. But did I skip am I following the pages correctly for you guys? You're good. Okay. Then we have TPUSA creative. They get two studio production days. Uh calls with TPUSA's marketing and digital team. Then they have a social media blitz. These are their proposed influencers. May vary on availability. Alex Clark, Riley, Morgan Mcichael, Benny Johnson, Jack Pobic, Anthony Watson, Isabelle Brown, Lauren Chen, Chrissy Clark. Chrissy Clark, pardon, and Savannah Hernandez. Again, that's their proposed uh Dean, we can't, you know, ascertain as to whether any of them took up that offer other than Riley. Uh Dean's list continued uh which is banner mention all emails, Turning Point Ball they want to be a part of. They get four hotel rooms, six seated tickets to the inauguration, 25 tickets to the Turning Point Ball, and this is incredible. Why Rei Theater? They're going to name the Turning Point USA feed theater. I don't know if it's going to be a whole building or it's going to be a part of a building, but it is a construction project that is to be completed by the end of 2025. I'm wondering if that was the construction in Charlie's office cuz I believe that's the only place they had construction going on. But that's interesting. If it was going to be completed by the end of 2025, that would be the only one that makes sense to me. Anyway, then they get the entire TPUSA spring campus tour. Now, why am I walking you through this contract? Because they get a lot and they get it for 2.25 million and it's through to the end of the year, right through the end of the year. They highlight everything they've wanted. They've been working with Turning Point since the year prior. They know Charlie goes on tour every uh semester. And yet, despite signing this contract, they then are going to come in in July with an addendum. Now, the date that this is executed, and we're going to go to the second contract, the addendum. So, it looks like this person was on the money when they told me this tip. This contract, this agreement is going to be really just one page. Everything else is just like the legal here's what Turning Point is, you know, indemnification. One page. Suddenly, they're not so descriptive. Doesn't seem very descriptive at all. It's going to be for a lot of money just for the Charlie Kirk fall campus tour. Signed July 25th, 2025. And they're going to pay an additional 1.25 million. Um, that's a lot of money just for a branded wall, a presenting sponsorship title. Premier branding for evening campus sessions. So, they're looking to do this for 12 events. That makes that clear. Main stage speaking time just for 5 minutes. So, Lane Shamberger did speak for five minutes as the event was um before the event kicked off at UVU. A mainstage video. There was no video opportunity of course at UVU and an email to all attendees. That's it. And yet they're willing to pay 1.25 that's a lot of money. 1.25 million just for the fall campus tour. And then you wonder why not include that in the earlier contract? Why why are we getting this addendum late in the day? Maybe the tip is correct that Charlie he came in as a friend and was like, "Hey, we'll make up that money. Don't worry about Bob Schman. These are the contracts. I mean, these are these are the contracts that we're reading. And I'll tell you what's interesting. We we we will never be able to confirm whether of course if there if this is all people talking around the office and some people say this is what happened and other people dispute that narrative. I highly doubt Lane Shoberger is going to talk to me about these contracts and why he came in in July on July 25th uh and decided to inject a lot of money. Also, people saying that they actually never actually get the money. That was also weird. Like this is just on paper but the money is funny. I don't know. We can't confirm that. What we can do though is we can plug these agreements onto our Charlie timeline, which I have to tell you is growing more interesting by the day because we didn't just plug these agreements onto it. We also decided I had this idea to go backward and I just went, "What about this Epstein stuff? I forgot Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan wrote a book broke and then it broke in the New York Times about all of these meetings that were taking place in the situation room over the Epstein files. What a weird thing. Why would you have to have meetings in the situation room about how to manage the Epstein files? It's a common theme in this Charlie Kirk story. And so I want to take you guys through this because I think you will be unnerved by this timeline as I am unnerved by this timeline. We can actually go. Yeah. Okay. So let's start. Yeah. Start February. So we just had that up here. Don't know what it's going to mean. He enters that initial agreement. Why Refi enters an agreement to sponsor Turning Points spring tour plus all major media events through to the end of the year. February 11th, we have that TPUSA reopens their shuttered chapter at the University of Nebraska. Lincoln. February 12th, Frank Turk speaks at the University of Nebraska Lincoln. February 24th, Charlie Kirk contacts Canace and says Emanuel Mcronone has asked the White House for her to stop discussing Breijgit. Emanuel Mcronone was at the White House on this day and put in a personal request that is going to become increasingly relevant as we go through this because of what we were working on, which I almost forgot was an entire Epstein series. February 25th, Sergio Gore, one that Erica is going to see off to India following Charlie's assassination, calls Candace and asks her to stop discussing Breijgit Mcronone as a favor to President Trump. February 26th, the Trump calls Candace and asks her to stop speaking about Breijgit Mcronone. In June, we have the Boston Consulting Group. That's where Mitt Romney and BB met, don't forget. Um, and they decide to abandon the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which ends up being remarkably corrupt, and it turns out they're just killing Palestinian children, starving them. So, Boston Consulting Group has got to get out of that in early June of 2025 because of the scandal. Um, like I said, it's important to note that Netanyahu and Mitt Romney met as corporate adviserss at BCG, and they have maintained a very close friendship since, over 50 years of friendship. On June 3, Johnny Moore actually takes over the chair as chairman of the Gaza Humanitarian Aid Project. Now, Johnny Moore, as we know, is Andrew Kovett's partner over at the Chyros company. Before Andrew started his own PR firm, he was working with Chyros. When I met him and TPUSA took on um Andrew took on TPUSA through Chyros. If I remember correctly, his email address at the time, it no longer is, was at the Chyros company. June 13th, Iran and Israel uh 12-day war commences. BBNet and Yahoo and his American partners are lobbying hard in DC for Trump to get American troops involved in a fullscale war in the region. Charlie is one of the few voices in Trump's ear lobbying against American involvement. June 17th, UVU hosts a fake drill simulation with crisis actors for a mass casualty event. On the 18th and the 19th, Charlie physically goes into the White House and ultimately wins the debate against the Zionists that are lobbying for American involvement in Iran. He and some others convince Trump to limit action, only partaking in a limited strike on Iranian nuclear sites. On June 19th, Erica purges her Instagram. She deletes 126 posts. On June 22nd, we have Operation Midnight Hammer. America bombs Iran uh the nuclear sites. On June 22nd, Bradley Hansel is confirmed by the Senate as the under secretary of defense uh for intelligence. His term is set to begin on July 25th. Now, we're in July. July 7th, the 9th, BB Netanyahu uh visits Washington DC. On July 9th, we noted that the Candace URI two decade old college video, college final, is archived for the first time. We know that the next day on July 10th, TPUSA headquarters asks UVU club president Caleb Chilikut to book Charlie for an event in the UVU courtyard. And um his field rep is being vague on the details. He asks the school if the space is available. Now we have July 11th to the 13th. I just want to make sure we do have the Epstein series in this one guys that we have the right one pulled up. Okay, cool. On July 11th to the 13th, Charlie speaks at the uh TPUSA Student Action Summit and it is a disaster only for his donors. Charlie's first speech is at 4 p.m. His last speech he concludes at 1:10 p.m. local on Sunday, but it's on the 11th that Tucker Carlson speaks. Charlie tells him to go max on the Epstein stuff and the Zionist owners freak out. Bob Showman pulls out millions. Others pull out millions. Tucker Carlson calls out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Aman's wealth comes from. July 11th, we've noted that Frank Turk deletes his website, frank.com. July 12th, according to the New York Times, President Trump called Charlie Kirk angrily to scold him about his event, claims it was an Epstein grievance fest. On July 14th, Charlie Kirk announces on his show that he's going to stop covering the Epstein story and he trusts his friends in the administration. He is clear that he was intentional though about speaking about Epstein at SAS. He wanted to go Max. On July 14th, for whatever it's worth, Erica Kirk travels aboard a private flight to Long Beach, California, and she speaks at James Catis' Calvary Chapel Church for the Women's Summer of Psalms retreat. She's not experiencing the same anti-Israel feeling as her husband, at least not in her speech. The speech is pro-Israel, and it's about a call to arms despite what Charlie is going through with Zionist donors. On July 16th, I begin my Jeffrey Epstein series in conjunction with Xavier Bousard's Reporting, same person I did the Breijit series with. The first episode is entitled Dead Men Tell No Tales. It's actually not the first episode. It was the uh what's it called? The preview or what is it called one? Oh, we are missing one. Yeah, on July 9th. Yeah, that was it. July 9th. Yeah. So on July 9th on we start we premiere our Epstein series Dead Men Tell No Tales which is the introduction episode. I wrote first episode but it was the introduction. Very next day per the New York Times Donald Trump. Actually it's not Donald Trump. I think we've corrected that since JD Vance and top advisers meet in a situation room to discuss the Epstein files absent Donald Trump. You guys ignore that Donald Trump was not present. We actually tried to confirm that today and realized that Donald Trump was not there. The attendees were JD Vance, Susie Wilds, David Warrington, Todd Blanch, Steven Chung, Caroline Levit, uh Taylor Budawick, James Blair, Stanley Woodwick, and Cash Patel, and Pam Bonnie joined by phone. Apparently, JD Vance was the only one in the room that was arguing for the full files to be released. Again, that's per the New York Times report. It is also the same day that I dropped episode one of the series on Epstein Files called the Midas Touch. how they pulled him through the ranks is what the episode is about. How, you know, where did Epstein's money come from? He wasn't actually that interesting. He wasn't that smart, but he was good at blackmailing people. We discussed the Department of Justice. We discussed Bill Bar's contributions and the Dalton school in New York to creating this fake persona of some super genius when he was kind of just a sexual deviant from the very beginning, hitting on high school girls. On July 18th, there was a formal request for TurningPoint USA's UVU chapter that's submitted. We discussed that. Um, and they decide to hold the event at Utah Valley University. And July 20th, the Egyptian plane flew from Cairo through to Paris onto Omaha, Nebraska, and then onward to Lincoln, Nebraska. Then we know on the 20th, Charlie vacations in Maine for a couple of weeks with his family. He goes off radar. Uh Mikey, McCoy, and Elizabeth join Erica and Charlie for the first time, according to them, capturing what's going to be the final footage that is immediately distributed following Charlie's assassination. And yeah, on July 22nd, I dropped Epste Files episode 2, House of Maxwell. It's very interesting episode where we discussed uh how Robert Maxwell got into schools in America printing textbooks, their obsession with printing. Galileain Maxwell, their connections to really I mean this is a this is a French family if you will. And the very next day, another Epstein situation room. Every one of my episodes the very next day there's an Epstein situation room meeting which is just remarkable. Uh this meeting coincided also with the House oversight meeting voting to subpoena the president on the Epstein files. That vote took place um on the 23rd and it said that they were surprised by this and suddenly they had to deal with the fact that this was going to this information was going to be subpoenaed whether they liked it or not. And to be clear, they did not like it. Um, from the th those attendees, sorry if you will, were Susie Wilds, JD Vance, Todd Blanch, David Warrington, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, James Blair, Steven Chong, Taylor Budawick, and Caroline Levit. Again, Trump was not present for that meeting. On July 25th, Ryi then comes in as the sponsor for a Charlie Kirk fall tour. Like I noted, they had already signed a contract in February through the end of the year. So, what catalyzed this sudden addendum for the fall tour? We don't know. On July 27th, we know that the Egyptian plane um then departs Wilmington, Delaware, and heads back to Cairo on the 27th. I need to double check that, make sure I didn't carry that over and not delete that. On August 3rd, Charlie and Erica land in Bedford, New York for the Hampton's retreat. from the fourth to the 6th there's this like you know between the intervention we don't know specifically which day BB called my best guess would be on the fourth I'm telling you um the fifth and the 6th is when the influencers are there they were not a part of this meeting they were not a part of BB Netanyahu calling but it's now since been confirmed that BB Netanyahu did in fact call Erica was present for this phone call and I was told that he offered to take turning point to the next level in exchange for what was never made I was also told that BB invited Charlie to Israel and Charlie declined to go to Israel. I believe that Andrew Kulvette has since uh admitted to that. Um also on August 4th, a fake MySpace account is archived for me. We added that. August 6th, obviously Charlie goes on Megan Kelly show where he explains what happened or alludes to what happened in the Hamptons and says that people are calling him an anti-semite. He holds up his phone. He's obviously very frustrated. So, this was not a peaceful summit for Charlie. August 9th, a 2015 Candace Owens Flickr account is archived for the first time. Again, that is over a decade old and it contains photos of Candace with family from a birthday party. Not controversial. On August 13th, I dropped the Epstein Files episode entitled Mega Maga and the MSAD. And we were barking, just so you guys know how this is all coming together. We were getting information that Breit was allegedly working for the MSAD. This particular episode was about a group of billionaires in America uh who were effectively controlling everything for Israel and particularly during Bill Clinton's term mega became a nickname for a mole that was working at the White House who Bill Clinton set out to find until he got blackmailed by BB Netany and Yahoo who said we've got Monica Lewinsky um and you on tape so you're going to stop looking for this mole who is at the highest levels of the government. And so he he did he stopped. That's what that episode was about. Once again, a strange coincidence. On August 13th, we have the followup to an Epstein meeting. That meeting ran uh according to the book, approximately for 2 hours from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. Eastern. Uh it does not separately specify the connection method for the other eight. I'm not sure what that Ah, okay. Uh, Dom is telling me that only JD was on the phone. It doesn't specify who was in the room and who was not. Um, but Trump, David Warrington, and Stanley Woodward are not named as participants. The people that were reported in person are Susie Wilds, Pam Bondi, Todd Todd Blanch, Cash Patel, James Blair, Taylor Budawick, Steven Chung, Caroline Levit, and JD Vance by phone from Britain. On August 14th, just an interesting fact, could be nothing. Kabat Phillips reaches out to Turning Point USA at UVU and asks to speak on behalf of the Daily Wire for the fall campus tour. He requests a date for late September, specifically because he plans to be in the area. On that same day, Erica has a photo shoot with the children and Charlie at the Builtmore Hotel. Marina Minez, the CMO of Turning Point USA, is involved with the organization of this shoot. On August 15th through to August 17th, we know that that was a Turning Point USA aspen investor meeting. We're told that that's when Charlie just appointed Erica to take over if he dies unexpectedly. And then on August 17th, this is confirmed. We have our Egyptian planes that come in and they land into Lincoln all places. They are in Lincoln at noon um Lincoln, Nebraska. And they also were in Omaha. And strangely enough, Cash Patel goes to Omaha. Now, we filed an FOIA request wanting to know why he was in Omaha. We wanted to know who was aboard the plane with him, who he was meeting while the Egyptian planes were in town. They came back to us and essentially said, "Kick rocks. We can neither confirm nor deny and we don't have to because that's our government and that's how it works." But I I would like to know the answer to that. Maybe someone else is uh more astute at filing FOIA requests. on August 24th. We know that Brian then claims security planning began for the event, right? Security planning began, but UVU, we've now learned, says that they were not informed or included in this said planning. So, where was Brian Harpole and where was the security planning taking place is another open-ended question. Then operation Valhava strike began between civilians and the military training in Minnesota. Civilians working with the military. Fascinating. August 25th, that is going to be the UVU major events meeting on Microsoft Teams. The school suggests that Turning Point does not see Charlie in the amphitheater, but Turning Point is insisting they got to be and that's how it's got to happen. They are not the the the security of Turning Point USA is not on this call and yet UVU um police chief Jeff Long is asking for a contact which he doesn't actually get. So on September 2nd he follows up with them. He says hey still don't have a contact for the security and so he reaches out to the the club president. Again, this is per the independent review. And then he is supplied one. And on September 3rd, he is able to establish connection with Dan Flood. And I want to be clear, by the way, September 2nd is the first time that this upcoming event that we could find is mentioned that Charlie is going to come to town and that he's going to be speaking at UVU in the courtyard. That is the first time that that is mentioned. And yet, remarkably, 3,000 people are going to show up. And it's going to coincide September 10th with their military day as well. So maybe there were a lot of military people. Military people and civilians who worked with the military could have been there. What that's what I think. Anyway, I wanted to show you that updated timeline because I I am left with the impression that we should have continued our Epstein series. Yeah, this is not normal. I uh at the highest level of government to be calling you about Breijgit Breijgit to be suing me over uh mention that the Breijgit birthday falls on the creation of MK Ultra, Breijit disappearing, Jean Michelle Trrogno disappearing in the United States um never to be seen again. I just feel like the Epstein files of which the Todd Blanch story was we can't give you the files. There's it's really just all child pornography may have consisted of something bigger than that. Global trafficking network um also a psychology program uh assets all throughout. I keep forgetting how much of the Epstein story has to do with France. John Luke Brunell of course potentially suicided partner of Jeffrey Epstein through the modeling group the modeling uh group f founded by him Faith Kate's modeling group a question that we could not get an answer on and we asked Turning Point USA explicitly why we have people that worked there saying that Erica was in control of the modeling apartments company that John Luke Brunell started this feels like it could be very important for us to go back to the Epstein story. There's been a lot of panic about the Epstein story and I'm I've already expressed a million times I'm uncomfortable with Turning Point's inability to answer questions about this. This is very easy. If someone said, "Candice, did you work in or around Jeffrey Epstein's M?" No, I didn't. Wasn't hard for me to respond when people were trying to drum up a story about me as a lesbian. Nope, not me. That's not me on those websites. Yes, that's me right there uh submitting my college final which I did on the Aderal epidemic on campus. This is not hard to answer questions and you would especially want to answer those questions if it's about Jeffrey Epstein. Like I just feel like that's am I right? Is that common sense? You'd want to answer those questions. When I plot that timeline, I consider everything that was happening. I go I should have kept going with the Epstein series. There's something bigger happening here. The administration was positively panicked about the Epstein files. Trump's making phone calls he should never be making. Stop talking about the Epstein files to Charlie. It's an Epstein grievance fest. Why are you You're the president of United States. It should be We should be agrieved by Jeffrey Epstein. Are we still talking about Jeffrey? Yes, we're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm wondering if Charlie was murdered over the Epstein files. I'm wondering if Charlie was murdered over the Epstein network. I'm going to think while it's still legal because it's barely legal. The feds are trying to bankrupt you. Trump tweeting I hope regime bank what what does all this have to do with one another? It feels like a lot of it has like there's a bigger picture here. Like the nucleus of all of this is the Epstein files actually and we should go back and so we will go back. I get we're going to go back to discussing Jeffrey Epstein and trying to figure out what caused so much panic for this administration and why they still to this day do not want to release the files. Anyway, we'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys. I have talked about Nimi's tallow skincare before, so I'm excited to share that they recently launched a full tallow body line. It has quickly become a staple in my house. What I love is how simple and thoughtful everything is with clean ingredients and tallow as the star. 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The left and the right are now more open to the fact that we're getting played both ways. And suddenly Cash Patel and Dan Bonino, they found the guy and it's an autistic black man named Brian Cole Jr. He's arrested 5 years after the events on January 6th. The FBI says he confessed. His legal team, however, tells us that he has autism. And how they got that confession is extremely controversial. It's actually shouldn't say extremely controversial. It's positively sickening how they coerced this confession out of him. Positively sickening as in like people should go to prison over this. We should be able to find out who the federal agents were who sat him down. So if you know anything about autism, people that have it, they stim, right? And so uh they have these characteristics where they're trying to comfort themselves. I whether it's like rocking or repeating phrases, whatever it is. I want to first pull up the interrogation of the which was what was trending all over Twitter yesterday because it's it's so despicable and disgusting. This is called Mr. Cole breaks. So he's been being interrogated. He maintained his innocence said he didn't do this. The record of Mr. Cole's last hour of resistance is difficult to read. He asked for a break just to process all of this. Alone in the interrogation room, shivering while wrapped in the blanket, he chanted to himself, "I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't." Even a small chance. Even a small, tiny chance. Smallest, tiniest chances. Do whatever you can to clear your name. You can get out of this. This is stmming. The self-regulating repetition characteristics of an autistic person who is in acute physical and emotional distress. It was captured on the government's own recording. When the agents returned, Mr. Cole reported a quote, "A giant pain in my stomach." The response from the Fed was, "I know. Are you ready? Are you ready to explain?" Minutes later, the agents asked whether he wanted the interrogation to end. His answer revealed a mind that had stopped functioning. He wrote, "I don't know what what to do anymore. I just everything is just everything is just blank. Being told being told all of this is just a little too much to process. I'm sorry." Rather than honor that answer, the agents pressed on. They cued a surveillance video and asked Mr. Cole to identify the man in it. He denied any familiarity with what he saw twice. Do you recognize that person? No. Have you watched this video before? No. Only then did the agents remind him of what a denial would cost. They said, quote, "Lying to federal agents is breaking the law. That's another crime." So, more lies just makes it worse. Okay. No. Look at me. Do you understand that? Seconds later, repeating the question, drew the opposite answer. So, is this individual you? Yes. The confession was not the product of the video. Mr. Cole had just denied recognizing himself in it. It was the product of the threat. The agents turned no into a yes by telling him that no was itself a crime. The agents reactions confirmed what the entire morning had been engineered to produce. It's over. Take a breath. Take a breath. It's over. Let your mind breathe. Okay, cry. Do whatever you have to. It's over. It's over. Okay, we can resolve this case. So, in case you didn't uh watch the Tucker Carlson episode, he invited the parents on to discuss how Brian Cole effectively became a pathy after being what I would describe tortured by federal agents and constantly saying he did not do this. He did not do this. He did not recognize the person until they got the answer that they wanted. Despicable. It's what you think happens when they set up a pathy. And they descended upon his home, by the way, back in December of 2025. He lives with his mother and other family members. It seemed very bizarre the way everything came came about. He's 20 miles they're 20 miles outside of Washington DC. Um he works for a bail bond company with his family. He has pleaded not guilty and yet despite that has been denied bond in January. So, he's sitting and rotting in a cell because they can't allow the people out of the cell when they're making up an entire narrative to cover their own crimes. Right. Anyway, the reason why I wanted to bring up Brian Cole Jr. is this remarkable thing, this remarkable thing that happened days after they fed announced that they had their person, it's Brian Cole Jr., Mysteriously, just like in the Tyler Robinson case, Scripps Media releases what should have been a deleted typical stop, traffic stop with Brian Cole Jr., the media gets a hold of a standard traffic stop. And it's not just Scripps Media. It is the exact same two journalists at Scripps Media who released the footage of Tyler Robinson's body camera footage from a normal minor traffic crash. You you cannot believe this that somehow Oh, we have this footage of Brian Cole. It should have been deleted naturally. You know, Hold on. Body cam footage, minor traffic incident, but we have it exclusively. Let's listen to Script News break that story. >> Scripts News obtained new video of the Washington DC pipe bomb suspect who was arrested earlier this month. I want to bring in our scripts senior national investigative correspondent Lori Jenha who has this exclusive rep reporting. So LJ, how did we even find out this new video existed? >> Well Stephanie, we always go searching for anything that gives us a more complete picture of the person who has been named by authorities. And in this case, we have literal pictures, new video of a car crash from 2024 in which police captured his face on camera. >> Is everyone okay? Everyone, anyone hurt? >> Everyone's all good. >> Police responding to a Virginia traffic accident in 2024, captured these images of Brian J. Cole Jr. more than a year before federal authorities took him into custody and accused him of planting pipe bombs near Democratic and Republican headquarters in Washington, DC. absent judgment. I was looking for a place that I could, you know, move on to the next lane and then just one small lap in small small laps in focus and I just crashed behind him. >> Cole was driving the blue Nissan Sentra when he rearended the truck in front of him. >> If you would have left some space, you would have rearended the vehicle. Does that make sense? Okay. >> Yeah. >> A police officer wrote him a ticket that day for following too closely behind the non-controversial, admitted what he did was wrong, and yet remarkably scripts media, the exact same journalists who then randomly had Tyler Robinson's from years before. Oh, we just we don't know how we keep getting a hold of this stuff. Yeah. It's almost like the feds are highlighting people who are autistic on the spectrum in certain programs that in case the feds commit a crime, they can just sort of dump it on them and convince the public. It's crazy. How are you getting a hold? I actually really interested. How are you getting a hold of this footage? Did we have the uh Tyler Robinson one? They're the Let's roll the Tyler Robinson clip because it's the same journalist. They're amazed that they got their hands on it. Take a listen. Scripps News investigative team has obtained never-before-seen video of the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk. We learned earlier this week that the county attorney in Utah will pursue the death penalty against the suspect. Senior national investigative correspondent Lori Jane Gleha is joining us now with more on this video. So Lori Jane, what can you tell us? What does this video show us? Well, Stephanie, whenever a crime like this happens, we go searching for anything we can to help us understand who the accused was. And part of our research included contacting police departments in the communities in the area where Tyler Robinson lived and asking for any reports or videos that might give us some clues. Well, this week we obtained body camera footage from an accident he had in 2022. Oh, wow. That is incredible. You got to give it to Scripts Media. Maybe maybe we should be taking a closer look at scripts. And do you know what? Somebody emailed me and reminded me that when we were doing our series on Erica Kirk and we started with her life in the first school that she attended, particularly we uncovered that she went to a daycare in a massive corporate building. We were somewhat confused because we found no evidence that her parents worked in this corporate building. It was a relatively new building. I think the building was built in 1990 and Erica was attending daycare there in 1991 and um it was actually the Scripps building in Cincinnati, Ohio. That's that's where the company was based. Erica was attending that uh daycare at the Walnut Street, 312 Walnut Street at the corner of Third Street and it was a central business district and yet we couldn't figure out what our parents were doing in this building. And so I do think that scripts in general, I don't believe in coincidences like that. I don't believe that when the feds get sloppy and we're pulling up obscure body cam footage from minor accidents. I don't I don't believe in a coincidence. I actually am not allowed to believe in coincidence. I'm Catholic. We believe in providence. And I think the feds are up to it in both of these cases. So anyway, um I'll show you that photo. Very cute photo of Erica at daycare, by the way. Little bumblebee. She's trolling me. Bumblebee right there. Illuminati hand symbol. 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Like who was digging for Candace Owens uh projects and then you have the first Epstein situation room meeting and it was concerning the backlash because they issued a memo. The FBI issued a memo stating that there was no Epstein list. And this is just remarkable that this is all happening during the same month that we be we began our Epstein series. So I did want to add that and um we will release this like this is obviously we've been keeping this internal. That's why there's like these little mistakes. Uh, but we'll clean this up and we will release this probably in the next week or so so that you guys can have just sort of this interactive timeline with the links that we're using to establish all of these things. Uh, just wanted to add that. Anyway, top comments from the last episode. We are probably way over time. Yes, we are. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Big M writes, "The next time my wife bugs me to move along," I'm hitting her with a I can't move along. I'm heaven focused. do it. How could she think anything other than, "Wow, you're amazing and you're so spiritual." Um, hopefully your wife isn't a reporter at the Vanity Fair because she might see right through it. Patrick Brady writes, "They can preserve an office but not a crime scene." Crime scene. Yes, thank you. Lots of questions there. And that whole thing was meant to be a motive. And oh, I can't believe Mac did that. Well, Mikey McCoy did that. Home office. That's a little weird. Were you like shocked and astonished when Mikey just immediately started taking hits from your husband's office? It seems a little weird. I would never allow that. Anyway, um also going to get into comments on today's episode. We have Ali who writes, "What people don't understand is that your loyalty to Erica depends on her loyalty to Charlie. Once you saw her betraying him by lying about his beliefs and partnering with his enemies, the narrative of how could you attack his wife goes out the window." Yeah. I just like it doesn't it's so crazy to try to convince me that you take 2.0 in the opposite direction of where Charlie was at. The entire world acknowledges that Charlie's opinion on Israel was changing. And yours changed too. Miraculously, yours changed too. After pushing your husband and being more against it, you now say, "I don't have an opinion. I don't even think about BB Netany and Yahoo." That registered to the public as fake. You do not allow his enemies to open at his organization. you do not allow people that were pressuring him to be invited back in. That registers to the public and to me as fake. And again, like I said, now she's teamed up with Andrew Wilson, you're so heaven. Who could describe themselves as when she says the statement, "All I do is I asked myself, will this bring me closer to heaven or further away from it?" So, what was the answer when you ran whether or not you should share text messages with Andrew Wilson? Did you did you run that question like, hm, is this going to bring me closer to heaven or further away from it by partnering with these people? Maybe she just runs the question and then she's like, further away. Great. Okay, let's move on. She just does it. She This is the nasty operator behind the scenes and I'm, like I said, so happy that Vanity Fair just saw right through the entire fake Christian grift, which is like I don't want to answer your questions and I'm going to be performative. I also want Oh, a next uh comment comes from Alina. She writes, "I went from child-free to my husband and now we are planning our first child because of you. We are donating to pre-born to save as many babies as possible. Pray for us." That makes me so happy and we will pray for you and um just know that the last weeks of pregnancy are no joke. You know, you just want to tap out. You will make it through. Every day feels like a year, but you will make it through. World Tide writes, "Please say a prayer for all those affected by the October 1st tragedy in Vegas nine years ago. I'm an ER nurse that worked that night. We saw over 240 patients. No matter what we go through, God is good. He will get you through anything. Every day is a blessing. Christ is king." Wow. Was that the the shooting I'm assuming that you're referring to, which happened nine years ago. We never really got answers on that. Talk about a different rabbit hole to go through. Mariel writes, "I'm in a lawsuit defending my mom's memory from vicious lies after she passed. You taught us to build the timeline, add their lies, and let research reveal God's truth. Thank you for helping me crack the case. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and discovery sucks for liars. Oh yes, it does. Discovery does suck for liars. And also remember, don't put everything out in the public because you got to surprise them, right? You got to surprise him. Like I said, by the end of this child investigation, the Black Robe Mafia will be exposed as well. this whole strategy of uh when you get close to the feds, they collude and they sue and they bankrupt you because you're not allowed to get close to the feds. You're not allowed to know what they're doing. You're not allowed to know that they're into kids and they're disgusting and so they're going to punish you and that's going to be exposed too. We're just kind of moving into a new timeline right now and people are awake. So fight on, be strong, and know that they are panicked because too many people are awake. There's actually Remind me, Skyler, that I want to look up an experiment about that um about it has something to do with fish in a bowl and they all started paying attention. I know it sounds weird. I'm just I just want to put a note that I need to look at an experiment into fish. It's interesting. Seven Sheets writes, "Bra, a brave bravo braimo. I find it so telling that your detractors never want to look into the greatest crimes against our nation but you do and I have been and always will be here for that and supporting faith prayers and God bless. Thank you so much for saying that and you always give which is so kind. Hannah Doodle writes, "The contact name Erica used on Telegram just the American flag is the same as the contact name from text Andrew Wilson leaked of Charlie the night before." Yeah, it's it is certainly interesting. Um, I am told by Turning Point people that Charlie had two Telegram accounts. One which was accessible by people around him where he would like kind of be like the fake Charlie. Sometimes it was the real one. He had access to it, but like other people also had access to it and could communicate. And that's the American flag icon. And then the real Charlie, the one that was speaking to the donors, the one that says Charlie Kirk that we saw when he's like, "I've been left with no choice but to ban the pro-Israel cause that." Yeah. I've realized the American flag thing is interesting. I don't know if Erica took over that account. I don't know what's going on. I believe nothing that comes from Andrew Wilson because why would you send it to Andrew Wilson when you could send it to Andrew Kovette? Why would you not send release the information yourself? Why wouldn't you send it to Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, um all of your media friends, give it to Vanity Fair? You gave them four months of access. Why not give them messages? Daily Mail, you don't choose to give something. They're they're moving towards these sorts of people who will lie uh and are disgusting. and have various addictions and these troubled backgrounds because they're willing to get their hands dirty. That's why. And they need now since they can't win in the arena of truth, they now need people who just lie and feel nothing when they do it. And so, no, you don't get to claim that you're heaven focused when you resort to those sorts of things. And by the way, we're never going to resort to those sorts of things. We're never going to pay anybody. We're never going to get people that'll get their hands dirty for us. So, we don't have a a network of anybody. We're not on any group chats. We're not digging into anybody. We are looking at the players and determining whether or not the stories they have told us are true. And thank you to that UVU Independent Review, Lake Forest Group, and also to the Vanity Fair reporter because I feel like I have had the most vindicated week ever, which is why they're hard in the paint trying to turn me into a crazy lesbian because I am so vindicated. And it's going to keep happening, but they're attacks will not land because they are missing truth. It only works if it's true. And you also didn't know about the trashy tattoos. That's fine. Didn't know. Now I'm looking at my mom like, "You see, I disobeyed you, but decades later it worked out for me. I have a highly identifying mark and you can't make fake porn about me." D. Greer writes, "It sounds like possible moneyaundering." You're referring to Yi. I don't know what Yi is, but I know that everyone's saying they're shady. Keep going, Max. I will. BC writes, "Candice, who is your favorite Blake? Blake Lively or Blake Nef? Which one of them would prevail in a slap fight?" That's a very good question, and I'm glad that you're asking these sorts of important questions. I feel like Blake Lively is like I feel like you got to put Blake Nef next to Ryan Reynolds cuz they're kind of more the same where I'm just like something is very disturbing about you. And uh so I would go with in a slap fight, Ryan Reynolds would win. And I think that Blake Lively is not really in control of her life. So I'm going with I'm going to go with Blake Ne Blake, sorry, with Ryan, which wasn't one of the options you gave me, but I'm heaven focused right now. And so I can do whatever I want. And so I'm going with Ryan Reynolds as the winner of a slap fight. And Blake Lively tries not to get she has her dragons do her dirty work. So she would be on the side. Um, am I did I get everybody's comments? I missed anybody. Nope. Just reminding you guys that if you'd like to support us, you can just go to cans.com. Sign up for a membership. That's the best way to support us. If you can, um, and you have the ability to financially, please support us that way. Also, if you can't, just buy a t-shirt, buy a mug, buy a hat, gift it to a friend. The holidays are around the corner. I am so happy it's October, you guys, because this baby is going to be here. I know these last four I'm just so tired of being pregnant. 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