[Flowing On]

Dove, John L., Grigsby, James

United States, Columbia, South Carolina

1939-03-15

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TITLE:
SOUTH CAROLINA WRITERS' PROJECT
LIFE HISTORY
FLOWING ON
Date of First Writing March 15, 1939
Name of Person Interviewed James Grigsby
Fictitious Name Jake Philpot
Street Address 2019 Bull Street
Place Columbia, S. C.
Occupation Collector
Name of Writer John L. Dove
Name of Reviser State Office
It was Monday morning, December 12, 1932, and the snow was
silently falling on the streets of Columbia, South Carolina. The
clang and swish of trolley cars went on as usual. There, too, was the
roar of truck and auto traffice. Men, women, and children walked. In
fact, there was an unusual amount of walking. Many walked because they
could not ride; they were jobless.
At the office of the big Congaree furniture store on Wain Street,

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it was, indeed, blue Monday. The reception extended the job seeker there
was as bleak as the day. Figuratively speaking, the manager needed help;
some one with ability to keep the big electric sign, just above the entrance
to the building, flashing the name, C -O -N -G -A -R -E -E.
Manager 3ason of the Congaree was in a blue and ugly mood that morn-
ing. He had cut to the bone the store's overhead expense. The services
of a number of collectors and one or more office workers had been discon-
tinued. Salaries had been cut, and he had even begun to practice economy
with the heating and lighting in the big three-story building. Just a
small light here and there shined down upon the modern and expensive suites
of furniture fine merchandise that the home owners would not or could not
buy, even at bargain prices.
'Ham, barn, barn! Manager Bason's big fist Tounded on the desk before
him, as he talked intently to the three collectors who stood nearby thumbing
through stacks of bills. "We've got over *100,000 worth of merchandise
out on accounts among the people of Columbia, and yet our income is in-
sufficient to meet our obligations. Unless you three men can collect
$20,000 and place it on this desk by January 1, you'll be as jobless
as rabbits after a bi snow storm. I tell you that because January 1, 1933,
is the very last day the Congaree's creditors have agreed to wait for their
money." The excited manager then turned to Jake Philpot, pointed a finger
toward the street and said: "Philpot, go out there and squint until that
amount comes into this store.'
dhen Jake Philpot reached the sidewalk with his bulging billfold, he
felt the chill of wet snow flakes on his face. He paused just long enough
to view the traffic on the street. "Tramp, tramp, tramp," came the noise

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of shoe heels pounding the wet sloppy sidewalks. He knew only too well
that many of those walkers were hunting for jobs. But Jake Philpot
had a real job, and he had to be on his way.
He opened the door of his battered car parked against the curb,
tossed his billfold on the seat, climbed in, started the motor, and was
off. He drove on and on through the falling snow, until he reached the
big Pacific Mill village on the outskirts of the city. He stopped his
motor on Whaley Street, the main thoroughfare in the mill village. There,
again, he found men and women walking, and with worried looks on their
faces. The only noise around that long five -story building was the madden-
ing "tramp, tramp" of shuffling feet. The mill had suspended its operation
indefinitely.
Jake Philpot began to walk. On and on he walked; he knew not where.
"I have a job, yet I haven't anything to do but walk." he thought aloud to
himself. He walked, too, until he heard a voice singing. He paused in his
tracks, leaned his head to one side, squinted his right eye, and listened to
one singing the old familiar hymn: "He Will Carry You Through.*
"Will carry you through!" Jake Philpot repeated, as he resumed his
walk in the direction from whence came the sound of that voice. He found
the soloist to be that of a mill worker who lived in an humble cottage
located on one of the back streets of the village. He knocked on the door.
It was immediately opened, and there stood a mother with a crying maybe
hungry child in her arms.
"Good morning, Mr. Philpot," she said. Then, pointing to a comfortable
chair, she added: "Won't you have that chair? I'm sorry we haven't any

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more to offer you. The mill is not running and, consequently, we have no
way of making a payment on the furniture. Youcan take it back if you need
it."
"Thanks, but I can't tarry longer than to tell you that you need not
worry about your debt to the Congaree Furniture Company. The hymn that you
have just sung has taken care of that. But tell me, Mrs. Roe, if you can,
where I might go and find people who do not have to walk.*
Mrs. Roe thought for a moment, and then, pointing in an easterly di-
rection, said: "Over there, during my sleepless nights, I can see the
bright lights shining; and they ride.*
"The bright lights, and they ride!" Jake Philpot repeated over and
over again, He understood. He straightened his blinking eyelids, set his
head squarely on his shoulders and made a dash for his old battered car.
With a pop and a sputter, the old motor soon began to warm up to the task.
Like a flash, Jake and the old car were on their way. The motor roared on
through the falling snow until the glimmer of colored lights Christmas
lights came into view in the fashionable Hollywood homes. He stopped
against the curb, climed out with the billfold under his arm, walked to the
entrance of an apartment building, and pushed a doorbell. A well dressed
lady opened the door and, after she had observed the bulging leather bag
under Jake's arm, inquired: "What is it?"
"I wish to speak to Mrs. Turnbull," answered Jake.
"Sorry, but Mrs. Turnbull doesn't live here anymore."
Jake Philpot thought fast, and his squinting eye had just time to rest
on the number on the telephone inside the hallway before the door closed
in his face. He returned to the wet, sloughy street, but he did not stop
walking until he had arrived at a corner drug store.

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"May I use your telephone?" he asked the young soda jerker.
"Yes, sir."
Jake Philpot dialed the number he had in mind. When the answer came,
he said: "I wish to speak to Mrs. Turnbull."
"Just a minute. Oh, Mrs. Turnbull I The telephone! Jake heard
and recognized the voice. A moment passed, and then:
"Mrs. Turnbull speaking."
"Just wanted to find out if you were in, Mrs. Turnbull, and could
receive an important message. The carrier will be there in a few minutes."
"Why, yes, I'll be here, and I certainly thank you for being so nice
as to call and tell me."
Jake Philpot retraced his steps and was soon back at the apartment
building. Again he pushed the doorbell. And again he found himself in the
presence of that well dressed lady. He said: "I wish to speak to
Mrs. Turnbull."
"I've told you once, sir, that Mrs. Turnbull does not live here any
more." Before she could slam the door in Jake Philpat's face, he replied,
"Yes, I remember what you told me, but I happen to know that you didn't
tell me the truth. I've just talked to Mrs. Turnbull over this telephone.
Will you please be kind enough to ask her to come and receive a message?"
Just then Mrs. Turnbull, who had heard and seen it all, came forward
to relieve the situation. She paid in full $200 the amount she owed
the Congaree Furniture Company.
According to Jake ehilpot, it mattered not to him how many times
they slammed doors in his face. It made him all the more determined to
make them pay what they owed the Congaree. Time after time, he said,

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they threatened him with physical or legal combat as a result of his
cunningness and audacity. He invaded home after home in that fine residen-
tial section of the city, in an effort to make them pay what they owed the
Congaree. If they had influential guests, or if they had a fashionable
party under way in the home, Jake entered and announced: "Vie need that
balance you owe the Con,i;aree."
After his right eye had fallen into a squint, Jake explained his
methods in dealing with the "highbrows," as he called them. "I gave them
no opportunity to 'button -hole' me, shunt me to the shadows, and whisper
an excuse in my ear, or sell me an alibi. I made them play 'Andy's puttin'
on the dog,' while I stood in the presence of the 'big shots' they had
around and wrote receipts in full for the piles of money they 'forked over'
in order to get rid of me, an uninvited and totally unappreciated guest.
"'When I'd get home at night to my little house out in Camp Fornance
section of the city, it would oftentimes be 4:00 a.m. I'd be so tired,
I wouldn't lie down to sleep, I d fell down."
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When asked if he managed to receive sleep sufficient to enable him to
stand the strain of such a drive, he replied t "Oh, yes, I sleep with the
social elect. And while they play, I work." By that, he meant he arranged
his daily schedule so as to be up and about his duties as a collector while
the people of a social turn of mind played.
while Jake Philpot never boasts of an accomplishment, or complains
of hardship, he merely squints and relates a few of his experiences
connected with the peculiar task he undertook during that trying period.
He did, however, do what his boss had asked "get out there and squint"
until he collected. He could be seen pushing doorbell after doorbell in

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the fine residential sections of the city at night. During the daylight
hours, he could be seen climbing staircases in tall office buildings;
crawling from grimy boiler rooms; entering gambling halls, bootleg joints,
and houses of ill fame. It mattered not to him what people thought of him
or said to him, he only squinted and entertained one thought a running
Congaree.
When Manager Bason looked up from the column of figures on his desk
and saw the clock ticking away in his office, it was eleven o'clock. Two
collectors had reported and were sitting near the big heater in the office,
nodding. They were tired and sleepy. Nothing had been heard from Jake
Philpot in three days.
"Oh, what's the use? It's impossible!" Manager Bason complained as
he began stumbling over the little walnut and mahogany whatnots on the floor.
He had smoked cigarette after cigarette, and the stubs were lying scattered
here and there. He was groggy, and it was with a stagger that he walked.
The clock ticked on, and Manager Bason continued his staggering walk
from front door to office and back again. From time to time, a smoke stand,
a beautiful _mirror, or some expensive doofunny would topple and fall from
contact with his fist or hand. Great beads of sweat had begun to show on
his face. The clock ticked on, but Jake Yhilpot was not there. When the
long hand neared the figure twelve on the dial, lianager Bason said: "It's
all over." Just as he reached for the switch to stop the big electric
sign on the front of the building, the door opened. It was Jake Philpot.
For a moment, Jake stood with a little brown bag in his hand and a squint
in his eye. Manager Bason lowered his upraised hand and inquired:
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"I don't know, sir," Jake answered, as he handed the little brown bag
to his boss. It required only a moment's time for Manager Bason to learn
that the balance needed was in that bag. Just as he was closing the heavy
vault door in the office, the radio announcer said: "Happy New Year!"
It was then one minute oast twelve o'clock, on the morning of January 1,
1933, and bedlam had broken loose in the city. Guns fired, bells rang, car
horns honked, and people cried and shouted. But Jake Philpot heard none
of it, for he snored all the while on one of the soft beds in the Congaree.
While Jake Philpot slept, his boss, Manager Bason, celebrated with
the crowds on the street. He was happy. Jhile speaking of the matter
years later, Mr. Bason said: "That night furnished the happiest, as well
as the most horrible, hours of my life." He gives Jake Philpot full credit
for the light, C -0 -N -G -A -R -E -E, that has never failed. Jake credited it to
the account of the kind lady he heard singing "For He Will Carry You
Through" that damp gloomy day in the Pacific Mill village when the snow
flakes were falling thick and fast.
Jake Philpot was born February 8, 1870, on a little two -horse farm on
Twenty Creek in Fairfield County, South Carolina. He is the son of James
and Cora Philpot, whose parents cane from Virginia. They were for many
years members of Zion Methodist Uhurch in the Bear Creek Community.
They say that Mr. and Mrs. Philpot, Jake's parents, seldom missed a sermon
at Zion. They required Jake and his five brothers and four sisters to attend
preachings and Sunday School at Zion.
When Jake Philpot was seven years old, he started his education at
Duke a little one -room, one -teacher school near Twenty Creek. The old
school building, he said, is still standing.

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"Not long ago, I was at Duke and found a few landmarks I saw there
fifty years ago when I was a student," remarked Mr. Philpot. He reached
no further than about the seventh grade, including his education at Duke
or elsewhere. His parents died when he was seventeen, and then Jake was
left on his own. He had to work for a living.
He cane to Columbia in 1888 and lived for a number of years with a
married sister and her family. During that time, he sold newspapers on the
streets of the city'and was delivery boy for the John L. Mimnaugh store.
His first regular job was ebtained at the old tate dispensary, at one
dollar a day. He pasted labels on whiskey bottles for two years. "But
I never touch strong drink," he casually remarked.
In 1903, Jake Vhilpot started his career as a furniture man, working
first with the Van Meter store and then with P. 0. Roberts Company. In
1913, he became connected with the parent firm of the present Congaree
Furniture Company, as a collector -salesman. For thirty years, he has
pushed doorbells at fine homes and rapped on doors of many who could not
afford doorbells. While he tells little about himself, he is rich in ex-
perience. He goes among the people and among his firn's customers in his
quiet unassuming way. It natters not how humble the home, Jake is ever
ready and willing to extend a friendly word and a helping hand. There is
perhaps no one in Columbia who has come in contact with more joys and
sorrows than "Old Jake Philpot." When he is confronted with a real problem,
he usually squints until he sees a solution to that problem.
Not so long ago, he was asked when and how he acquired the habit of
squinting his right eye and leaning his head to one side while listening
to a conversation. To this, he replied: "when i was a boy on our little

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Twenty Creek farm, there was a six -acre cottonfield that extended from the
back yard of the house to the northern boundary of the farm. I hoed and
plowed cotton in that field. When the noon hour approached, I'd watch
the shadow of a tall pine that stood in the front yard. When that shadow
reached a certain point on the house, I knew it would be around 12 o'clock,
time to quit for the refreshment I knew Mother had prepared. In looking
at that shadow, the summer sun would beam down in my face so strongly that
I'd have to hold my head to one side and squint." Thus it was that Jake
acquired the habit of squinting while thinking intently about a problem
confronting him.
In February, 1890, Jake Philpot married Miss Margaret Epting of Camden,
South Carolina. They have reared and educated four children three girls
and one boy of whom he speaks:
"I'm proud of them all, and I believe they will not forget the one
thing that has been my pillow and guide through the years.
line in the old hymn He Will Carry You Through which I
my mother sing while I toiled in that six -acre cottonfield
the house where I watched the pine's shadow.
Despite the falling snow, the pouring rain, the cold and the heat
of winter, spring, summer and fall, Jake Philpot keeps pushing doorbells,
and rapping where there are no bells, as a collector for the Congaree. He
weighs just 135 pounds; is gray-haired; is without his original teeth; but
his five feet of manhood and courage are still with him. Like the Congaree
he flows on.
I mean that
used to hear
just north of