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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
OSAGE INDIAN MURDERS
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and John Ramsey, murder of Henry Roan, an Osage Indian, at Guthrie and Gi:1a.hcma;1_:t3Oklahoma. Subject gave testimony corroborating Amos Tucker which conflicted aEtL_92
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¬'Eeatimony of hey Bench, Eheta11 testimony given by Subject Bosarth at 3. Fairfax, 01:12-h~e':.e.. '
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Names of Government witnesses and their statements contradicting evidence
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its entirety. That Suhject Bozarth is ac-rrcho. at-j;
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the death of Peary Roan, and was not out with Bunch "
and Taylor as testified to by kicker, and that she '
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Q? -. Subject C. C. Raddebengh is charged with perjury com-nitted in connection -
with trial or W. Hale and John Ramsey, Lurder of Eenry Roan. Subject testified
at Guthrie and 01:1e.he??Ia City, O.-zlahoma, in said trials as a defense witness and in -.
the interest-of substantie-.ting an attempte alibi by John Ramsey, placing the said I
Rémhey at Ripley, Chleinorr.-s, fram January 9th or 10th to January 28th, 1923, which w I
contrary to the facts develope and conclusively proven to be false. I
~ Names-of Goverment witnesses and their statements refuting evidence given
by Subject Rsdda'oaugh are as fc-llowe:-
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on the Ballew Ranch covering a period £_ozr~ . I
the latter part of December, 1922, until shoutJa.nu..1-y 20th, 192.3, except a few days p1'§§ to
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testimony r-ivsn by Harry Corbettil :1
witness s-.:t~stantially c_0_rrosora.t6;i
testimony giventy Harry 3°1 att.*P35
Bryan Corbett.
witness ;_;,1aces John Pause; at her nom
bairfax on January 14, 26, and 8-IȢ-lit
26th, 1925, and on a date intervening
sen those dates.
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the following dogs of Jaqiary as freq-1entlyk'
as otheircitizens that resided there. l-Er.
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fax on January 14, 1925.
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unable to establish any definite date.18
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places January 1'? and 16, 1925 as dates he
saw John Ramsey at Fairfax, 02:12..
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3ar:.sey, January 19th and 20th., 19.-'13, ~m'd
identified John 3-_=.mse;,' at Gutizri- .=. L55;
trial for the murder of R0:-.n :9»;
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Ramsey in e. cafe in the latter part of Ja.n'.1a.1§*,i_1925, at Fairfax, Olclehonla, but was unable to
establish positive date.
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King and who
es Attorney1- - -conspiracy to commit perjury in Connection with trial of W. K. Hale and John Ramsey; -
murder of Henry Beans--Subject, an attorney, represented John Ramsey at the trial 0; i.Hale and Ramsey at Guthrie, Oklahoma, which resulted in a nuns Jury. and at the triél 1
at-Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, which resulted in conviction. Subject Springer's manner
and inducements to corrupt, entice and induce witnesses to swear falsely at the triilsq
Of Hale and Ramsey in the Federal Court at Guthrie and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,
ahown.by testimony of Governrent witnesses.. Esmes of Government witnesses and their statements are as follows:-» ll
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tent to 3athrie Hale's car. At 3uthrie I met Ir. Bpringér
after court and in front of Fed builing and we walzei iown the 5
street and stepped in a stairway. Hr. Springer then said to me,3
"That God dam Bill Taylor come down here and senre that John Barney
r --.-= ichange that eviéenpe some way". I said "¥e11,_Er. Springer; :ha~-:5r was at yur house an Jan 15 and we cent have it that w&y._i!zsi
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that is bad evidence. I"' have it that way and we gJt to change it
again told him that was the truth and I would testify to the
and wheeled around and started away
said Kc and left.92 J _ 3 ~ 'tn_ng. Jringcr got me
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SUlv1I.LRY REPORT ,_ Subject Walter Ramsey is charged with perjury committed in connectio -withf- the trial of J. K. Hale and John Ramsey for the murder or Henry Roan. Subject 92 a y~. tia' a brother of Defendant John Ramsey and testified at the trials at Guthrie andiOi:1a,-hams. City, Oklahoma. In an attempt to establish an alibi for John Ramsey, his brotherlie stated that John Ramsey was at Ripley, Oklahoma, from January 9th or 101:1-.». to -It-1.n~nary 28th, 1923, which was contrary to the facts developed in the trials and was icon-clueively proves to be false.a 4;;-.1.
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recalls renting e room to John Ramsey January" 19th and $20 u.
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January 19th and 21st, 1923.
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home or Eur! Grunat {hazel-ind} at Imichtim Kali _
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Hcchin in pravinu. trial; Original 555, Page 8951.
Gan c-eatify ccncernigg application for a policy 0:! 1nmi_u_'-;{um: an tho life or Henry Rom, which policy I§.8$°!._IIROQ_»__ii,§_IE_;;_:;we awrmnt of ;as,oob, péylihll sq. I."K.,_ his as m.m:1$1w!s:.._ A,.4.-_.|1... __...n,.-...-.--92- 1'. ..._l- 0-- Ii-.__-¢-ah; A0 n..1-u.-1:glu,-r w|n¢.|,;p ¢||a.:1z1:'-lvu. A-. anvil! Mw III!-3088]! nu qxgqjaugiven by 1'. .1. Reynold; at p:-er1ou.a_t:_-1:1: Or_1g1;m1me $94,! wens mm w bring .11 records. - ' .;
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was <5-gen, in 1921 and -aamizué Henry loan tor that A ,~.~ A-. Y1
ecmpm, likewise ta;-_th_a p011§;_ in the ¢a;;ito1. Lit-|.. -Irmr@.=.ce 0am;>a.uy of Denver Zor $25,000 p|.:.*ab1s_.'*-'-0, "Ema. n;..m= #111 :-..-:.*=@=*:==+.1.*;_e2~.@.:-=.:-. theti:-2 hi Rem? mu he asked 3111. Halo, vb» was 1>_;_u>;a--nt","§§;i~ri;_;i%5§§if he na gaing -ac 1:111 tin! Latina for his inmrwsc, ' 1 " -0.1:?» who was the beneficiary; that 25.11.10 anzwarerls 504., I an - hell 5123" Par durizaila rerarenca is maa " ~ A
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E'it.'&~?.:";:: held this pcmiticm in 5a:ma§;_;.983, ia111..ta~.:t1§#§i
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that Eomoey should. have gone to ¬;nw.ex-'0 instead. ct" going to im_i§._'Tr
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1-, thoo.5ht lune about the inogdont until iha in; may ion: an ;;_»="=* ," e buried, at which time no not the tuzsoml 3::-ooeamien and Flt! B£1_§E}',.-118 Bale em Charley Lshbnok riaiag in the front carriage t-u.;*-;or.he:."q o - _?¬ ' In trio ooovoroetion beiwm Ernest and Horace Ba:-Icha:-t, Bongo0. _._;. _.. 4.- ____ ,n.92._q. -5----QB K! Pee-vi-K41 wanna-n~92'lnJ in hl _bf'¬ 'g-Ix-1 on Q W tab awn; HQ I-M-IUIIUI lvulinbn-I--Q uv iuuw one -av .-1 I that, while he was a good friend. or Halve, he would not pt- j~.1r"e ,_- 1 _ _ Jdozselt 1: gem: to 1. -my 0,8 above noun. f
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giro w sum mane}; far that I did fur then in the mricr trill". Ha said
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nae}, but they are willing to give me acme, and I wiah you would. see B: "
fright an-'3. nee if there are wome arr.-..ngement:s cam be maa so the Indium-
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and do you with to no.1-e this '6.ona.tion to
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1." In behalf of Bill Hale -- I told xii: that I knew 3horty"lh<=e1ar '- - .- ii '
ma he said if I amulet that he "would give me $100 uni go out _ -to Denver 3: x am. . iv! 1. . I4' ~
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cashier of the First liaticml. Buzky tar the amount ct. nonay for _ _
ticket £1-am Pershing. Eben or thin $100 - were paid no hetero .
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* .. Upon arrival at Pershing Is-:.v;=r gore me $5.00 os,,y:;.ng_"that 21% buy
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than trips? - . _ __ . _ _ . .'L10: Shraia of E1 has, items, Gharloy Dawn, at $0.11 lnwgto ad. .
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