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Ilisted the/following individuals
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I BRUCE IVINS,_I
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tenure at USAMRIID and did not recall hearingI Inameen ionedi [II] did not even recognizeI Ipicture w en shown in the I
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suites Investigations usinq virulent stra' s have b7Cbeen performed:byI in Suites[::] b2I Iareas!.I in addition b7?
to work with attenuated strains bacteria that do not cause
. diseaseL, have been conducted in SuiteI Iarea!.[:::::::]
asI Ihas not been properlyee' I as no witnessed the aerosol
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areas. Since the Fall of 2001, access to Suites B3 and B4 has
become more restricted. There is a large lyophilizer in the hallway
outside of Suite in Building 1425. Everyone in the area wouldnotice if it[f?i use A lvophilizer is not prisent in eitherSuites[:] or nor in
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handles to doors and incubators, in addition to controls of
equipment, where there is a high frequency of work conducted with
organisms.[:::::::]does not wear gloves in the change room or
offices.
I Iwas qiven| IH31 faia not handlee envelopes or leters containing Ehe evidentiary Bacillus
Idid not witness
t e handlin of the letters, but believes that BRUCE IVINS
worked on a letter in Building 1425, Suite B3witnesse IVINS[;:::::::::]working with the letter in this
area. A chain of custo y exists, documenting work conducted on the
d t t 1 evi en iar ma'eria in Suite B3[:;::::;;]understands from BRUCEIVINS [:::i¬::::::::::] initiated t e ce count conducted in Suite
B3.
letter are due partly to contamination issues at USAMRIID.
characterized the issue as a problem of perception. The Division
feels crucified for contaminating an area. In addition, the
questioning of work lace practices has been viewed as an attack onpersonal pride.[::::¬::]believes that the contamination issues have
been overly hyped. Improper packaging initially of the Daschle
letter may have led to the contamination.The conflicting stories over the handling of thetgaifhfi
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[:g:::::]received[::] stock of B.a. Ames from BRUCE IVINS.
IVINS went ack to the original B.a. Ames slant and generated a new
stock in order to keep the pathogen as close to the host as
possible. IVINS provided his Ames strain to[:::::::]in the
following manner: He retrieved his stock from the freezer, took out
a loop and plated it on agar. He gave the plate to[:::::::::]I I In addition to the B.a. Ames
stockLI Irecalled obtaining an spore preparation from IVINS
This material was generated from IVINS stock
or Ames.
To maintain uniformity of lineage among the laboratorv
roups working togetherhj
Ieveryone alreadyad their own Ames stocks Investi ators in the Bacteriology
Division used IVINS Ames stock.I Iwas not sure of the originof the Ames used byI I
I derived from the ori inal slant.I Ivarious B.a. strains E:::::::::::?:::] but not
Ames.
[::::::]does not store much in the way of 'true' Ames
stocks or spore preparations. It would be fairly obvious if vials
were missing. However, someone could take a loo out without
notice. With the small volumes of Ames that stores if an
appreciable volume was gone,[:::]would notice. stores
numerous stocks of Ames variants. These materials are visually
distinct from wild type Ames. 'Normal' Ames appears pale gray, with
medusa-like colonies, when plated and is not hemolytic. With aging,
the culture becomes grainy and blebs appear. Ames mutants appear
yellow in color and display hemolytic activity. If a person did not
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Isubmitted Ames samples remaining from thisstudy to the FBI repositorv.I recombinant anthrax vaccine
studyI
was conducted using B.a.I I
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the Agents. A copy of t 1S diagram is attached and the original is
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IThe vials containing Ames,which still remained after this study; were submitted to the FBI
repository.I I
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supplies.I
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work in the laboratory.[:::]may use these types of
containers for the storage of files at home. Small plastic boxes
with gaskets are used for materials that require airtight storage.
Steel containers and Styrofoam coolers are used for transport of
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A Bacillus anthracis Ames strain Ames! snore preparation
from produced viaI Iwas s oru atediat a concentration _ofI I
per milliliter ml! of solution. .
AI Ichallenge using Ames spores on
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of Bacillus anthracis Sterne strain in practice for the
purification of Bacillus anthracis Vollum and Ames strains.
I protocol on the purification of spores via a
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interviewing agents and the nature of the interview,[:::::]
provided the following information:
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eventually given access t the Biosafety LeveI| Icontainment
suite located in Buildin at Fort Detrick.[:::::]was trained
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advised that or using Ba Am Strain,|did not grow ores. Initiall obtained smallamount of Ba Ames from Ineeded more hi ly
purified Ames Strain spores fsti research.| Iadvised hatthe primary source of BA Ames usedin| kesearch was BRUCE IV S
research group. IVINS provided|
|prepared spores contained in a| |
[:::%::]advised that| Mould take a small sample ofspores from t e original] I ~
stated thatE::]kept the[:::::]bottle containing
in a safety container which was sealed by a rubber
gas e . stored the in a drawer in the walkin
refr' ' ' igerator located on thiE;;;;;}:::::]of Build1ng[::::]
[:::::]advised that after the renovation of Buildin 1412was complete in the year 2000 or 200l,[:;lkept some[:::;:::;:?:L
containin de osited Ba Spores in the wa -in refrigera or oca edon the f Building advised that tttttt
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I procedures were tightened and the use of cardboard boxes in the
refrigerators discontinued.
5:::%:] stated that when[:::]work at USAMRIID wasconcluded turned over the remainder of E::]Ba Ames Strain
I advised that there lS written documentationregarding the transfer of the Ba to[:::::::::::::]advised thatEE::]never transferred any Ba to any other researcher, nor did[::]ta e
any Ba out of Building 1412.
[::::::]advised thatE:;%%% not know what media was used
to grow the Ba Ames Strain whic was given by IVINS' group to
conduct[:::]research. E::::::]stated that was not immediately
aware of the concentration of spores in but believed
that this was documented. [:::::]state t at notebooks are
still located in the "hot suite" in Building
I Iadvised that inI
After the letter containing B.a. spores was recovered
from the office of SENATOR THOMAS DA '
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asked to participate 1nay f"the forensic research related to the
anthrax mailings. I
advised tha Ileft USAMRIID and wentto work at I
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[::::::]advised that everyone[::]observed conducting
research at USAMRIID practiced ood safety procedures in the hotsuites. [:::::]advised that[::iwould have liked USAMRIID to havebf
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had better access controls regarding the storage of bacteria and
other agents.
I IrecalledIQ working in ther ory92in1 Iadvised thatI Ialso reca1ledI from the laboratorv. I I
stated thatI
[:::::] stated that if one wanted to know what was ingon at USAMRIID, the should talk toI LIDI YIemployees.
I Iadvised that did not knowdid rememberI Itelling about the I
working at USAMRIID.
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employment. After being advised of the identit of the interviewingagents and the purpose of the interview,[:::::Tprovided the
following information:
I Ireceived aI
A curriculum vitae provided by[:::::]is attached. J
involved in theIcurrently is theI Iwhich is
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Ihas an
Iwork, experience, professional organization membership,
which is included in a 1A envelope with
thls report.
| Istated that I
work included vaccine/antibiotics studies and|In ihese studlesJ
worked with al
I Iindicated that USAMRIID| I
involved in work on molecular Biology of Bacillus anthracis B.a.!
|stated that[::]was aware o tilization of wet sprayw 1 e experimenting with B.a.!.T:EEf:jstated that other
individuals, who were involved in molecular work with Ba, included
IBRUCE IVINSI|was not
aware of any work conducted at USAMRIID utillzing lyop 1 izers for
drying B.a.!.
was not aware of any other disgruntle employee's at USAMRIID
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at USAMRIID during the time| Iused
These studies often dealt with the weaponization of B.a.!.
stated that the Ames strain of B.a. was stored inSuite in building 1425 at USAMRIID, and that[::]worked in[:::]
[:::::]related that the only security or access problem
that[::]was aware of at USAMRIID was an employee that ained accessto a hot suite using another employee's access badge.Ei:::]could
not recall who the employees were, but recalled that the
individual/individuals involved in the incident had authorization
to be in the hot suites, but forgot his/her access badge.[:::::::]
could not recall any other situation involving improper access to
the hot suites.
[:::::]was questioned as to the physical security at
USAMRIID and as to any weakness in security that would allow
someone to take any biological or chemical agents from the base.
[::::]stated that the base had tight controls in place and was
partially due to Congress's implementation of the Select Agent Rule
prior 1997, whereby controls were implemented to safe guard agents
that were to be removed and transferred from facility to facility.
These controls included the review and approval of any select agent
transfer b the De ut Commander and the head of security of
USAMRIID,| |stated that the recently adopted
Patriot Act also tightened controls on the transfer of select
agents.
[::;;:gopined that the Ames strain used in the Anthrax
mailings cou ave come from USAMRIID, but[::]believed that it
would not have been taken from USAMRIID in a dry form.[:::::]
advised that[::]believes a person would have had to have taken a
small amount of B.a. Ames, and would have had to grow the B,a. on
their own.[:::::]said that they could grow it ' g a blood agarand washing it with water three to five times.EfiIrelated in order
to achieve a high quality the spores could be was ed up to fifteentimes.[::]stated that in order to dry B.a., solvent methods could
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B.a. would not have to be milled to achieve a powder form.
related that as soon as B.a. is dried it is a highly dangerous
substance.be utilized rather than another drying process. In this waff the
[:::::]theorized that it is possible for one person to be
responsible for the mailings but[::]would not discount that theHmailings were State sponsored terrorism.| |then related that] |
[::::]advised that Clorox would be sprayed on to
decontaminate Class I and Class II bio-safety cabinets.
Paraformaldehyde fumigation was also part of the Standard OperatingProcedure sop! at USAMRIID in the decontamination process. [::::]
stated that usage of glutaraldehye, as a decontamination agent,
was limited and was not utilized in the suites as it was too
dangerous.[::::]said that| Ithe
decontamination efforts at USAMRIID.
I |saw|
knownl lverv well at USAMRIID.| Istated that|
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I Iearned aIERSITY inI Iand immediatelv began
working atIk initial wor involved materials research and durin Itenure at
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INFECTIOUS DISEASES USAMRIID! in[::::] USAMRIID personnel su liedbiological aqents used for development and testinq| I
I was the main point of contact at USAMRIID and
I completed USAMRIID'S immunization
program and worked in roo of Buildin
recalled that initial' ' work was conduct dIe I
Sample handling and preparation were not conducted
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and stored them in an upright, glassdoor refrigerator in room£:::]
On occasion,I Iwould ipet small volumes o
liquid material from vials ontoI I After use, all samples
and materials were decontaminated, either chemically or in the
autoclave. rimary function was I|maintained a variagle onsite schedule,
working at USAMRIID one day a week, or less.
WhileI Iwas emploved withI I_
DuringI I I Icompleted the immunization program and becamescientist for the sample handling aspects of the I
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develop and refine a technique forLinteracted wijhj Fl
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I Iwork wasconducted with Bacillus anthracis B.a.! Ames. The B.a. Ames spores
were supplied in liquid form by BRUCE IVINS of USAMRIID and were
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I Iforemost responsibility wasI I
e majority of] |workI Icontaining captured B.a. Ames spores was conducted during] HE§:::::Jtime frame. I
andledw I but not the raw B.a.
Ames spore material.I Irecalled holding the container ofB.a. spores and lookini at the material in the biosafety hood fn
one occasion. Prior to B.a.
Ames spores were store on a smaI1 shelf in the room] |walkin
cooler.| |accessed this walkin refrigerator in Building
and indicated that the area was packed with various materials.E::Irical%ed]seeing racks of tubes and plastic boxes with lids-ihowever did not look around too much Once analyzed in| I
bleached to chemically deactivate the spores.
I Iworked at USAMRIID initially as a
access to thd I suites. The biocabinethousingI YIIwas shared withl Ihowever, the work conducted b Iat USAMRIIDwas not related toL Ihands-on work in t e laboratory was sporadic, asI Iprimary
function was that ofI did not know the
specifics of the research conducted byI Iindicated thatI Icurrent studies involve collaboration with USAMRIID personnel.
The] Iusing B.a. Ames were completed
and the project was scheduled to continue using additional
biolo ical agents.I I[::::i%:::]anticipated the setup of tHis| Iat USAMRIID
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Ibelieved that the oroiect will procee as
fundin I h b V g as eenrovided to USAMRIID for continued contributions to the project.
Iwill supposedly replace] IIwill continue to provide theI I
arrangement.Iexpressed doubts as to the feasibility of this
[:::::::::] identified all o£[::] work areas at USAMRIID
on a floor plan provided by the Agents. The floor plan shown to
[:::::::::]is maintained in a 1A envelope FD34O!. wasin USAMRIID Buildin E:::]to access thelb[:::::::::::::] but[%] did not conduct la oratory work in this
building.
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ersonnel directly involved in the
I Idid not interact with USAMRIID employees.I Irecalled
seeingI Iand individuals working in neighboring
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FWhen Ehe project was initiatedkj Iwas
theI Funding wasrov1ded_byJ Ias the original
wanted to extend the study to the anal SlS of realrather than just simulants; thus,[::]contacted£i;;;;g;::::]
at the ARMY MEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE OF INFECTIOUS US ID!.I:::::]£undea USAMRIID'S contributions to the project,as[%%§Icoul not provide funding to the military. A Memorandum of
Understanding was drafted between[:::::]and USAMRIID designating
the Institute as the provider of ' ' al agents for use indevelopingI I
I I40 conduct studies at USAMRIID for the project. Thecomp eted the vaccination series and began to work with[::::E:::::]
Multi le biological agents were PIused in the studies, includinqIJ and Bacillus
anthracis B.a.!.I I both withE;::;;;::]kmckgrounds, did not grow any of the biological agents
or e studies.
I I was hired b USAMRIID atpr0mp¬ing to tttttt with the project. |':| had
the background necessary t and may have supplied
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biolo ical sam les internally to personnel at USAMRIID.[:::]did notgrowI¬::::::::fused in the studies, ratherI Iinterfaced with aperson growin the virus inI Igroup atUSAMRIID.E:::g:::]received samples rromI Iwho assistedsignificantly with sample handling.I hlsoI I
for use in the project.
I ' ' o supplyingI Isam les for the project,provided training torp
aboratory protocols in aI
received initialI Itraining from o USAMRIID.E:::::]spent no more than 40 hours in the I
spent a little more time thanI I
Initially, a commercial mass spectrometer was used to
obtain the biological signatures of myriad agents. An organism in
liquid form was deposited on a slide. Once dry, the slide was
inserted into the instrument sam le compartment for analysis. Thesemeasurements were made in[:::::fE]laboratory space.
Extension of the proiect, to include[:::::::::::::]
I required the construction of a
I OnceI Iwastaken to USAMRIID for testing laboratorwas used to condu -l work.I I_group worked with laboratory personnel, mainly] H]
Agents werel
worked mainly with Bacillus anthracis. BRUCE IVINS
provided with a tube of li uid B.a. Ames spores at aconcentration of ~10 cfu/n1 E:::§::]did not know the specifics of
how the spores were grown, but recalled that the material was
gradient purified using renograph. No additives were used to
enhance the properties of the spores. The Ames spore preparation
was stored in the walkin cooler in the containment
facility of Building The tape sam les containin de o ' p g p sited
a ents were stored in a Tupperware container in the same location.EfE:::]did not recall the maintenance of a log or inventory for thewalkin cooler.[:::::::::]was aware of the location and types ofb /Ci
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samples[::::::::]group was storing.[::::::]did not know what other
materials were stored in the cooler. The cooler was accessible to
anyone with authorization to enter the hot area of Building[:::::]
The tapes containing biological agents were autoclaved
and discarded after use. A total of ~50 sample tapes were made for
the project.[:::::::::]was desi nated as the caretaker of theremaining B.a. Ames spores wheni::::::]left USAMRIID.
conducted very limited work with the B.a. Ames
aside from
Iassisted with al
[:::::]has never met Idi
around USAMRIID outside of aborator work and knewindividuals at the Institute, includinqjy
I Icould nqtresponse.| [HIE not attend anvl
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id not recall discussions with[:::::::;::::;]
regarding what countries had weaponize ant rax.
Medical and environmental biological samples may have been
discussed, as scientists often culture isolates from dead animals
to obtain diverse strains for assay development. A
[:;:::] did not believe, for several reasons, that the
anthrax mai ings were performed by a terrorist organization. The
mailer did not capitalize on the advantage gained after the first
mailin s by sending additional letters. The odd pattern indicatedto[:::%::]that the mailer ran out of agent, which would be unlikely
for a terrorist group capable of manufacturing a large amount of
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Iprior to workingwith| at USAMRIID.| Ileft USAMRIID for a job at the
hasworked at thel Ifor approximately] Eme
two people formerly at USAMRIIDLJ
| Ihas continued to work at| llI Liil be taken t9 USESRIID forstudies using biological agents.| will use
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I Lggpial se Ey number_ home be
addressI _ __ __ I home b7Ctelephone numberI Iwas interviewed at p ace of
employment, the United States Army Medical Research Institute of
Infectious Diseases USAM IID , Fort Detrick, Maryland, worktelephone number E:;;;;%;%::: After being advised of the
identities of t e in e iewing agents and the purpose of the
interview, provided the following information:_
_ Iand has beenFmployed at USAMRIID sinceI | Ireceived a degree
KUniversity./
, I I work at USAMRIID isImostlv conducted in theI rgained suite access in
I _ i Ialso has access to the hot suites and hasparticipated in aerosol challenges. was not positive ifI I
ever handled Bacillus anthracis BA! stated the last t me
agar92plates. believed the solutions were anthrax and does- 2
|:|believed I:I handled anthrax was in Ireceived a pipet of a solution from BRU IVINS whichI Ispread on
not know the type of strain.
does not maintain a diary or log concerningIE::] be
work. does not use a lyophilizer and has never dried
anthrax. does not use sterilite containers and d es not birecall seeing these type of containers at USAMRIID.[::::%::]does
not know where anthrax is stored but guessed it would be in thd[:::]
suite d k ' .[::g::::] oes not now of anyone who could be associated with
the anthr x mailings.
uses the walk in cooler on the arI If; building[:::]to store vials of serum.
never witnessed anyone " 1 gy back" in and out of the hot suites,and could not recall if[:E:ihad ever saw foreign visitors enter the
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has not been contacted b an one trying to obtainanthrax or a ything else from USAMRIID.[:#::::E]does not use or
purchase prestamped envelopes and has not seen any at USAMRIID.
does not personal know and hasnever met never saw at USAMRIID.
has no friends or associates who reside in New
Jersey. believesl |during the s ofthe anthra mailings. provided agents copies of[%?Ej
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suite, with the exception of wheniimnis in the office area and when
[::]u the telephone. [::]only wears gloves in a cold laboratorywhenTff]is using sterile technique or when[::]is working inside of
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E;:::::]<did not work with or handle the letter, envelope
or materia contained therein from the Daschle, Leahy, New York
Post, or Brokaw mailings. [:::]only knowledge of any work done with
the letters is as follows.
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advised that the airlock on the[::::::::::]of
Building is not meant to be used as an entry for people. If a
. person was to enter the hot side through any door other than the
change rooms, an alarm would ring. If one of the two doors leading
to the airlock is open, the other door cannot be o en at the sametime. The [:::]passbox is located on the E:::::::¬:::]of the
building.
[::::::]has worked all strains of Bacillus anthracis
B.a.! that IVINS maintains including Vollum 1B and Texas. [:::::]
I |Bacillus anthracis B.a.! Ames spores for use
in aerosol studies and has used B.a. Ames in injection studies aswell. F Fhas also done anthrax] |studies with
BASSETT grows[:::]own B.a. Ames spores using theLeighton~Doi method. The only incubator thar he has ezer used for
this purpose is located in Room
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[:::::::]autoclaves any extra B.a. Ames spores on the same
day of the study in which it was used, with the exception of when
the autoclave is down for maintenance. | Ihas never shared anylB.a. Ames spore preparations. I I |
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I L§OCi3l ecu£Q£¥Q»_...» .rn Iinterviewed 3?] Ipl J nsmnnmber We bf?A ace oi 2 Ann hm_MeA<Li.¢_el.£~reeeers¢hmlnetiltylM,i._mI12£_estion.§r.1;ireese§S <I55A1 IRIIDLj LPorter ,§l;l1§_¬._@i;./_ F.lQ~Il2_-l3_@i;£;i,Q_ ,,=l!Lar,_:/.land, <t.e.le.n..hl.Qnej
After being advised of the identity of the agents and the purposeof the interview,[::::::]provided the following information:
In addition tobfcreated for SAI H Baltimore FBILI big
Iagreed to locate a copy of theI I
or the agents.
I Iworked in someI Irecollection ofI iwork with theI Itheindividuals present, an Icapacitv withI Fl ,
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I Ihad limited contact withI
Iwas not present for the] q
|:| advi d se that USAMRIID received very little
material from the B rokaw letter, only two to three "grains". The
New York FBI office first sent th l e etter to the Centers for
Disease Control CDC!, and th e FBI then moved the letter from the
CDC to USAMRIID. USAMRIID was advised not to do any work with the
letter until given further notice and t , 1 was stored at room
temperature in Room[:::::::::]in a locked cabinet. [::::::]thinks
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that one "grain" of the B.a. was removed and sent for EM. A swab
of the envelope was taken for culture purposes.
USAMRIID held the Leahy letter in storage and did not do
any work with it for an extended period of time. The letter
remained in the original plastic can in which it was received, with
the evidence tape still intact. During this time, there were
numerous meetings about how the letter should be handled, and a
protocol was written outlinin the exact steps to be taken. Inaddition, a room in Suite[:::iwas being set up to work the Leahy
letter in accordance with the established protocol.
H Iwas movedintp guite Ito be used for work with the Leahv letter. This
; Ivolunteered theuse of| |in response to a canvass of USAMRIID requesting
one. _
From the time the Leahy letter was opened, the two person
team rule was put into effect from that point forward. Once the
doors to Rooms[::::::::::::::]wer cured, the storedletters were moved there from RoomT:???if:if/-
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