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Re: INDUQTRIAL oAIiTY COMMITTEL
VQF CLEVELAND SAFETY COUNCIL
The following is an outline of the information presently
available in the Bureau relative to the organii tion of the shovenamed committee under the leadership of Eliogyézss, Safety Director,
Cleveland, Ohio. i"
The formation of this organization first came to the
attention 0? the Cleveland Office on 0ctober 28, 1939, whenLieutenant 4. R${eskin, United States hydrographic Qffice,
Cleveland, who is a local representative of 0. N. 1., celled at
the Bureau office and advised that the Industrial Safety Committee
was being set up. At that time Lieutenant heskin stated that
approximately 327 industrial plants in cleveland had promised ;
cooperation to the bafety Committee, the purpose of which was
reported to be the establishment of s unified investigative force .
to conduct investigations relative to suspicious employees and '
other individuals believed to be engaged in sabotage or espionage
activities. .u
According to information furnished by Lieutenant Baskin '
and by Eliot Ness, the plans for the formation of the afety Committee .
origiated a few days prior to October 27, 1939, at which time
Hsskin and Hess hsd discussed the organization of such a committee.
No information is available as to which of these individuals initiated
Both heskin and Ness, However, have stated their approval of the plan,
and Ness has pointed out his responsibility in protecting industrial
plants in the city of Cleveland as a part of his official duties as
Safety Director of that city.the r
Arising from the discussions between Haskin and Ness e
meeting was called by Nese for Vctober 27, l939, in the Empire Room
of the Hotel Clevelend, for the purpose of formulating plans for
the organization of the Industrial Uonnuttee. There were invited
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mr. E. A. Tamm ~ 2 ~ Nevember 18. 1?}?
tn at%end this meeting.the ranking officials cf a number cf large
industrial firmm having contracts with ihe Navy Fepartment. At
this paint it is painted ant that Lieutenant haakin £urnisaed to
r. eas the names of the induatriax concerns in the city of
Claveland having enntratt with tb §avy Bepartment, which infoxmaw
ticn is suppusadly highly confiential
At this maeting an Gperating GQmit$ea was selecte
censisting of a Mr. Hopkins, a r. Grieve of the Pneumatic Tani
Cmpany, r. hite of tha Republic ¢teel ompany, Mr. Urawrord
of tha Th&m§s0n.?rubts_$0mpany, and a few Qthers. This ccmmittae
ia supposed to-funtion in.ce0rdinating the activities of the hafety
Committee.
According to Lieutenant Hashim the present plan proviéea
that each concern which joina the Induatrial afety Gummittee shall
pay to the committee twaniy-five mania per emgloyee for each three
months that prutecticn is affnrded to qhat enncern. In othér wQrdS,
each cancern will pay one dallar per yéar for each person ampleyed
by it. The dues are ta ha paid to the +ecretaxy and treasurer of
the leveland Safety Cauncil, Mr@ Geri Smith. Q11 mnies are £0
be expended only with tne appruval at r Eliet Neas who is aczing
as adviser tn the Industrial Safety Cummittee.
Hr» Thm bui 9l0tay who baa previcusly been employed
in the office cf Mr. Hess as a spacial in estigatnr has reigne
that pasition and has been sppeinte the chief investigator fur the
Industrial Safety Committee. .
On ovember ll, 1939, Mr» eas and.$r. 8Lothay called at
the Eleveland Bureau Uffica and discussed their plans with sp6¢iE1
Agent in Charge Guinane. They made no mention of the financiax
arrangements set out above. They advissd $33; ggg plant
is to furnish a list or its em§lv¥ees to r. CLQthay wha with the
BVi¢B*Df r. mess will select two or more emplqyeas at sash ylant
to eat as unéercaver agents and will repert direetly ts r. Ciathey.
when reports are raceivad by Mr@ Glothey indicating p0SSib1¬ epiag
ar s&b0t&ge it is intende that the information will be raferred to
Mr. Rnbert W. Cnamberlin who is £r. Essa assistant in tha Cl&veLand
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&#39; 3t is pointed out that with respect to the financial setup
of the Industrial Safety Committee, it is estimated there are
approximately 1200 plants in the Cleveland area which are potentinl
members of the committee, which plants employ at least l50,000 men.
0n the basis of these conservative figures the committee would
receive $150,000 a year. Inasmuch as it is intended that the actual
investigations be conducted by members of the Cleveland Police
Department, it appears that the only expense to be incurred by
the committee is the salary of Mr. Clothey, certain clerical and
administrative expenses, and perhaps a small payment to the under-
cover employees at each plant. It would appear, therefore, that
the industrial concerns in the Cleveland ares are to be assessed
$150,000 a year merely to provide an agency to which information will
be reported and then referred by that agency to the Cleveland Police
~ Department which is already being maintained at public expense.
The plans for the organization and operation of the Industrial
Safety Committee are still in.s preliminary stage but operations are
already beginning according to the most recent information received
from the Bureau office in Cleveland. _
The objections to the operation of this Industrial safety
Committee are perhaps obvious but it is pointed out that in the first
place they are in direct contradiction to the Presidential Pr0clume~
tion issued on September 6, l939, which requested all police
Organizations to refer matters relating to espionage and Sabotage
directly to this Bureau. Any individual iDVeStig&tiOnS conducted
by this committee or any similar organization will naturally present
the hazard of interfering with espionage and sabotage investigations
being conducted oy this Bureau on a nationwide scale. It is not difficult
to imagine a situation where the Industrial Safety Committee through the
Cleveland Police Department might conduct an investigation at an
industrial plant in Cleveland which would seriously interfere with a
widespread investigation being conducted by the Bureau and would result
in undue publicity, It is also pointed out that the only actual function
of the Industrial Comittee, as such, is to receive end correlate reports
as to sabotage and 8SpiOn&g8. This is strictly the function of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation and is handled by the Bureau without
cost to the industrial plants, whereas the Industrial Safety Committee
_is charging these plants a large amount of money for the Same service,
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Memorandum for
Mr. E. A. Tam - 4  November 18. 1-939
Attention is also directed to the activities of Lieutenant
J. R. Haskin in connection with the Industrial Safety Committee.
Lieutenant Haskin was actively interested in the formation of the
committee and there is some doubt as to whether he did not actually
conceive the idea for the committee himself. He has furnished to
Mr. Ness a confidential list of industrial plants in ¬leveland
having contracts with the Navy Department and has also expressed
his opinion that the Arm and Navy inspectors in local plants
manufacturing materials for the national defense have expressed
their willingness to cooperate with the program of the Industrial
Safety Committee. p H &#39;
It is, of course, impossible at the present time to
determine what effect, if any, the operations of the Industrial
Safety Committee will have upon the plant protection Program of
the Bureau. It is believed, however, that a definite understanding
should be reached with the Navy Department so that there can be no
erroneous impression formed on the pert of the management of
industrial plants in Cleveland through Lieutenant Haskin. In view
of his contacts with the operating officials of these industrial
plants there is a possibility that his connection with the Industrial
Safety Committee might be construed as an official endorsement of
that committee and in order that there be no interference with the
Bureau&#39;s program, it is suggested that steps be taken to prevent any
Buvh mi$¢0H¢9Ptlon on the part of the industrial plants which will
be contacted by Bureau representatives.
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According to press dispatches appearing in the
Cleveland newspapers during the pest weekend, Mr. A. E.
Stevenson, Secretary of the CIO Cleveland Industrial Union
Council, will proceed to Washington during the current week
for the purpose of determining from you what pert the FBI
is taking in a "rumored spy hunt." According to the press X
dispatches, the Cleveland Industrial Union Council has 92
&#39; issued demands that Mayor Burton of Cleveland confirm or
deny "disturbing and sinister reports" that the city
administration is seeking to prevent wartime sabotage in
industry by spying on union officers and members. It is
further indicated that Director of Public safety Eliot
Ness has cooperated with the Pinkerton Detective Agency, the
Associated Industries and the FBI in formulating a "prevent
sabotage" program, and that Mr. A. E. Stevenson has censured
the Mayor for not consulting labor concerning the menace.
Newspaper dispatches further refer to the fact that Director
of Public Safety Nose has held meetings with several in-
dustrialists in Cleveland recently to outline a program of
the type described heretofore.2
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For your information, the FBI has not participated 1»
in any manner or degree in the organization of the Industrial
Safety Committee in Cleveland. The Bureau has observed that p
during the pest several weeks Eliot Ness, Director of Public V
Safety, has formed a Safety Committee and has held meetings 4
in connection with the organization of this group. The &#39;
present plan provides that each industrial concern in the ,&#39;
Cleveland metropolitan area pay to the Safety Committee
twenty-five cents per employee each three months. The ,
Committee will collect these dues and in return will select ej:
two or more employees at each plant to act as undercover e&#39;
agents who will report to the Comittee activities within the
plant which may indicate espionage or sabotage. The Committee
in turn will refer this information to the Cleveland Police
Department which will handle it through a special squad or Q?
that Department. Obviously,
the Bureau. It is estimated
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Memorandum for the _ _Aztorney General ~ 2  Be¢amber é, 19$?
Ir all or these planma enter into the operations or this
Committee, the Gommittee*s incuma will he $l5O,GG a yaar.
It follew consequently that the industrial concerns in the
Cleveland area will he paying $l5Q,QOG a year far tha
maintenance or an agency whose sale functian will he tn
refer to the Claveiand Palice Deparmment, which is airaay
being maintained at yublic expense, lnformaticn relative to
matters which should be reported in t§s first instance by the
various p&ants tn the FBI. _ 1
- I am bringigg this situation to your attentinn in
anticition of the fact that §r. A. E, Stevensnn will call
upan yau. K have beratufora instruatad the dp8Gil_Ag8n$ in
Charge at tha laveland Bureau Urfica-to emphasize wherever
and whenever possible the fact that tne~Bure&u-is not
participating in or endorsing in any"manner the opsrations
sf the Inustrial §afaty.¢ummittea of Glaveland.
~ Hespecfglly,
John Edgar Hnover
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strong stand with Hess along the li es that he did
with the F.B;I. in organizing this leveland%$g[ety1_
that he dealt with Naval IntelligenceEnd he must
to deal with them. I advised him that the Director
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was formed without the knowledge, endorsement, sponsors ip
or any approval of the F.B.I.; that after the group was formed
they talked to us about it, but they did not consult us as to
forming it or anything of that kind; that if he wanted our
participation and support he should have come to usgfirst.
Secondly, that he never asked our views about it at any tine.
» Thirdly, he has never turned a thing over to-us, and if he
says anything about Lieutenant askin having given us any 
information, we assumed that h was dealing with us as a
representative of Naval Intelli enoe. Fourth, that the
Director deplores any private group which does law enforce-
ment upon a paying basis, and tM;t the action of the Safety
Council in charging one dollar per employee per year and then
having investigations conducted by the Police Department is
certainly a very serious question; that the Director feels
that law enforcement should be handled by qficers who are ,<g __
paid for that purpose. If the,leveland Police Department lis functioning in that capacity there is no justification M,for their collecting money for that purpose, and if the A1
Council is using these funds to pay investigators to act in -
a private capacity, they are doing a very unethical and
e undesirable thing by attenpting to junction as a law enforce-J
I advised yr. Lioterman to tell Hess that the
Director takes the position that there is no need for any   if
private groups to act as interaediariet between business-or&#39;***"
individuals and the I2B.I;; that anyone can report nattersg@$g,,
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and the injection of a third party into any relationship q;;I;p
this kind merely complicates and takes more difficult the ggggxf
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I asked Ev. Listerman to imform Ska: further that 
the Bureau can see abaalutely na need far such an organization
as the laveland Safety Cuunsil, since the Preaidanticl order
placed juriadietian in E3pi0nGg¢, Sabataga and related caa¢a,.
including Plant Protectien, in the F.B.12 I advised him ta "
take the pnsitian that Eves canes ta as too late abaut thia-
aituatian; that he formed the arganisation and than told us»
about it; that we did not endorse it and he did sat ask far
uur endarsement; that if he munte our views or qpinian he
shauld have asked us first. He deal with Lieutenant Easkin
believing him to be an accredited rqpreaentative qf Rbval
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nal Intelligence in any matter that pertains ta the FederalGovernment. R
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take someone mitk him to the interuiam, and suggested&#39;thut ha
nlaa have aameana sit in at that time. I requested that he
eall me immediately after the interview and let as knaw what
Hess attitude is, because the irector may desire $0 have
him issue a press release.
av. Ltsterman advised that Fess will probably any
that hgfare they made any dqfinite plane, they tank the acttar
up with %he Eleuelund Office. I advised him, hawevar, that
they did not taka it qp with us, but they advised as as ta
what they had done; thai B?. Guinnne did nut eapresa any
qpinion about the nutter, as he waa nut being asked but was
being tald if éss makes any statement about furnishing
this data to as confidentially about the membership, I
advised £%. Ltsternan to tell hi: that moat af the Business
men in tnwn know-abaut this and haw: baan talking about it;
that if he says we gave out the names qf the members ar 
anything of tha kind, he should tell him that this is an
untruth, that we have never ha tha names qf all the peqple
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Rhuy Dgpartment is qpprqached abaut this they will deny that
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a reserve qficer attached to q hydragrqphic qfice or aoas»,,
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December 19, 1939
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&#39; I advised Hr. Listerman that Commander Gregory
has sent two or three letters to 0.N.I. about this matter;
that he apparently was conpletely fooled by the list qr c
people the organization had on their letterhead. I advised
him that all the information that Hashin claims to have
reported to us was never reported. I advised Hr. Listernan
to take a very firm stand in the matter and to show no
quarter, and to advise me at the completion of the interview.
I stated that another matter about which we are
concerned is the statement made by Hashin that we sabotaged
G-2, and suggested to Hr. Listerman that he contact him and
find out just what he meant by that statement. 2+. Listerman
stated that he questioned Haskin about that this morning,
but Haskin would not say anything further about it. Haskin
stated that G-2 withdrew from the Cleveland area, and that
is the reason he went in.
I advised Hr. Listerman to tell Lieutenant Haskin
that he will report this to the Director in lashington with
the request that the Havy Department be notified of the state-
ments that he is making. I asked M. Listerman for a
description qf Lieutenant Haskin. e replied that Haskin
is about thirty-eight years of age, rather well built, wears
a Navy ring so apparently attended the Kauai Accademy, has
lightchestnut hair, is very iapetuous and quite emotional.
He stated that while talking, Haskin jumps from one subject
to another and is very difficult to pin down.
I asked Hr. Listerman to contact Lieutenant Haskin
and tell him that he would like to know what he had in mind
when he made that statement becau is reporting the matter
to Washington with the request t at hi statements be taken
up with the Navy Department.  ,/
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and said that he had taiked ta Hess who s in New Forkattending a safety cauncil meeting and tkat Essa is can»
siderably cencerned about M?. Ho@uer&#39;s alleged statement
to the Qf that the pian was very repugnani n him.
Hr. Clotheg stated that the imfarmaion relative to the
committee se¬~up, assessments, etc. was discussed in con-
fidence with SAC Guinane and new it appears, acasrding athe newspapers, that the igggrmatian was given n Mr~
Stevenson, Secreary nf th Jleueland Industrial.Uhian
Gouncil. Glotheg stated an attempt was made e csntact
yvu in Waahington gestardag at which time they were imform-
ed that yam had been out af he city for two weeks, ISAG Listerman called frnm Glsvelani and advised
As far the matter being treated caafidentéally,
I told Mr. Listerman tha they have told euergane they
appraaehed about it and we have heard abaut it frem num¬r~
ems dgferent sources. I tald Hr. Listsrman to tell them
he has checked and found that half the business people in
Cleveland have talked abmut this matter.
Mr* Listerman stated he has arranged an appa£nt~
meat with Mr. Hess for 12:15 p. m. t0morr@w@
f.Mv. Listerncn advised jurfher that Q shart time before this call Liautenant J} H,EHaskin, U. S. Naval
Int¬lligcHG¬ Qficcr, called an "m¢ Kr. Listermun said
Haskin had in his pGSS¬S5$QH the newspaper clippings which
MT. Liaterman mentioned this morning. Haskin stated ne
imfarmaiion was turned ever in confidence Hashim wanted
to know whether the infarmution was actually urned aver ta
Stevenson and if not than he wanted Stevenson investigated
by the FBI to determine why he made such statements ta the
rms.
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Haskin stated he would pay for the &#39;phone call to
Washington. He further said that unless he received an
answer within twelve or twentyqfour hours he would call
Commander Gregory at Chicago and then he, Haskin, would
leave for Washington tonight. Haskin stated that Steven-
son apparently got a complete list of all the persons in-
volved in this matter including the individuals who
attended the meetings, etc. Haskin said that he, Ness and
Guinane were the only ones who knew about the meetings and
the identity of the individuals who attended the meetings.
Haskin stated that the only possible source where Stevenson
could have obtained the information was from the FEI. I
told Mr. Listerman Stevenson didn&#39;t get the information
from us because we didn&#39;t have it.
Haskin stated, just before leaving, that if this
matter was released by the Bureau that we are apparently
cutting the throat of the Naval Intelligence by releasing
confidential information and, Haskin stated, what assurance
does he have that any information subsequently turned over
to the Bureau will not be similarly released. Haskin went
on to say that he understands the military intelligence was
sabotaged by the FBI. Mr. Listerman states he asked Hashim
what he was talking about and inquired where he got such
information. Haskin replied to the efect that he would
rather not discuss the matter but that that was the reason
the military intelligence withdrew from that area and the
reason he, a member of the Naval Intelligence, was sent into
the area.
I told Mr. Listerman that Haskin is nothing but a
liar and it is my hope that he comes to Washington as I would
like to talk to him. I told Mr. Listerman not to waste any
time with Haskin.
I told Mr. Listerman to call me following his con-
ferenoe with Ness tomorrow.
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;V v sage a aisc u3¬d in our calls
5, the&#39;fourMQ9ints and collateral~ Special Agent was also present at the conference.
hr. Listerman o tea that first of all he gave Hess the mes-
and brouaht to his attention
issnE§E7én 1,L£Qd§EZELwithI 1:1-. _1-1ft efnnan ,l?1silniFh*t."" Lri*~~ ; that he coulH&#39;see no necessity
ington now, in view of today&#39;s
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 ,  1-;Hess expressed the opinion
of getting in touch with Lash
conference.
that Hess first outlined the
proposition in considerable detail. Somewhat later, Carl
Smith, Secretary of the&#39;Cleveland Industrial Safety Council,
appeared on the Scene and etplained the work and the success
of the Council. During the latter part of the conference,£§a@ai Robert&#39;Chamberlain, assistant to Elliott Hess, came in asserQ -1.5 ».<-,12", » » * &#39;4
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conference. Mr. Listerman stated that he outlined in con-
-» siderable detail the information about which we spoke lost
that they explained that the
plan was still in a formative staoe; twlt they had not devel
a oped any information at the present time, and that they felt
that they had discussed the plan with former SAG Guinane at
about the time it was being orhanized. They admitted, however,
that they had a meetin in October and discussed the plan
before they talked to Guinane about it, but said that they
felt that they had discussed it with Mr. Guinane and that he
A ~ would pass the information along; that as long as Guinane nade&#39;
no objection to it they supposed that it not with his approval.
I inquired whether he pointed out that they did not ash for
~o, l any views; that they told as what then were doino instcad_o£____
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to his interview today with Safety Director Elliott-Yeas.
The meeting was held in a public dining room, and with Mr.
= Hess was Thomas Clothey, who was formerly his chie investi-
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~FP. Lissrmun exnlained that te Cieuviaad , 
bu iv Uwéil $3 $59 Q? Qf manwfacturers and idM8EriulLJL¢
Qf wleq¢land,°whp pay all the bills. _He st ted Lhat u4ncr
H636 §!1».%<l&#39;rz:38iO?,1 wzl-ti; j;a.s;§in_, },~"g_=3-3 33912 §,*&#39;@-~;~_1*,;§_;;;;*f;};J ;;_;,I<;g
*@ Ewvuivé Swcreru of the Umxncil and 1&0 has bgcnta new
in that
line of work for Q number 0f years, $0 kelp with $he,?orma&i@n1 t r - &#39; -Q; the Gouncil. ?hey than helm a nesting and askwc tha :ndus-
irialists what iheg tought abou suc& E plan} and ggggpginq
tn Fess he industr£@lis8 said that they newded some sggh
Pia 1" 91@U@ln§- W888 went an ta explain ihs importance Qf J
Uleveland in that u gram
uariuus déhcr straeaic mpiemen§s.
Ewe final plan was tha M mi b0ut_?
wuld e fnPne&, and that Clothe » ~n gram Yeasmany vital pPiS-fa? airpianea and
Q -J &#39;. . . Y ; _&#39; ¢.
Qfi to bake charge, which was Q  Ea. and Ulatheg said
that tha jngures which ngpamred in REEQ er &8~lj¢ed
by steucnsan awe grossly exaqeratcug tna
ta operaée an Q budget sf about ;l3,5@ yer-.1--3 .» 92.m»mwm*"y uré planning
w nrtcr, which
Qppraxzmately eivh* cent a manth jar each wplnyee. I
painted out ta ihe only dijykrgncg Qgiwggn gi§h¢ ¢@n¢$ G
mont and $w8$F:?¬Q§MQ§i$ a quarter is
cent. "&#39;a diference of one
LT &$$ernan éfud bhut Kr. ;C¬3 xglnéned his
-{J ~ Y :"l_i -.92 ,..92,.* _, 7, .3, . ta f. Siund as jolluws; lm ia churw of ths
about blawinp up Q damn-tswn ss¢t¬0n 0?
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cllcct iie biam0= r. Lisermcn
kiak ta their sustcm will prevent manyC v 14  ; i_1n  J.
blaminp up
3tun crd ail tanks which are all cl&ng aha riugr, and theA
J
hFO§EGt!QH cf the Giiy, nrinarily. 4; anytmang nQpp¬n;, _$3
said fat ihaae peaple
difficulties. ;Wis
iv %s syn cm: iey plan %@ sail upon th §ers0nncl munmar ~&#39;r
nr $33 zndusirialiafs thcmaeluas in furni
$h0 miwht &s used as injmrnanis. fose
on ia vaich Jar any siqn sf saoéua
Th0$e indiuiducls will La inarrced
iiics to an iniiiic ogfécsr 0? we plan
lipcncc a;fi@er vii} rcfar the ,aPw~ to TIO" J
vii} than turn aver ance rvpwriu and ail ta
QSQIQHGFC or Cunpluiu snbcém Q, si&#39; f Wto ray
cnniand that inc *nmuu£r£u; @aJ¢3§ §n1w@¢v@ is an
&#39; 6&#39;1 S tinn vj éhe industrialists, ud $@ut Q erploy
p£mnt$ are sub-a§¢nts
Qf thés orpmni "ism,
I iaquircd as £0 what ks §5U,6Q is in M
be usad Jar i Ir. Listerman stated that his is isc list Q; annlayecsuiduals_willhe
lQruciu£éies.
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h.;l&#39;;QCS to Clothey, whose inueséicators will inue¢1i_;;¢1 ~ - .all Qj that list to determine whether they would be reliable
and would turn ouer any information to the organization,
after which the necessary number of "stooges" would be
selected. He stated that all of these informants would
work without any pay besides their regular wages.
Clothey said that no work has been done by the
oroanieation, but that they are still engaged in the work of
oryanization; that they anticipate that it will take about
three months before they yet started. he Said that as soon
as any P¬yOFt8 are received they contemplate turning them
over to the F.B.I. Hr. Listerman said that these people
told him definitely that it is not their intention to inves-
tigate any complaint of espionage or sabotage.
I shed Hr. "" flan whether these neaplQ_under-
stand our G&#39;btiU-T,G in this matter, ty ;ieo@
saIUdItErs oar Ufews one degr¬e._ Mr. Listerman stated that
he_§oae his stand cleari jhat no toIH_them tag} at Laae_noofjicidI&#39;6onneEtion_Uith it. 7
Fr. Listernan stated that these people are enqaced
in a prevention proposition, but that they corla not say how
they could guarantee that any such system would prevent any
aCt8 of espionaae or sahotaoe. He stated that they feel
that we are cnoaged in the investigation of these matters,
and that they are primarily interested in the prevention of
any such occurrences.
I inquired how they account for the contention
that the industrialists can be saved 50,000 by reportinj
these matters direct by the plant management to us. it.
Listerman said that their contention is that the plant manace
ment would never know about these things. They think that
the employees would not report these matters to the plant
manaoement because of the anion proposition; that they are
trying to Jet around this difficulty.
fr. Smith saia that there is a possibility, although
it night be disputed, that some of the facts, particularly of
sabotage, may not be within the Federal jurieoiction, Qiuin
for an ¬$ampl¬ the atanderd Oil tanks which are used for
storage. Me said that they intend to include all such matters
so they can protect the city, in addition to protectinc the
plants wherein they have their stooces".

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empl@g@rs. J$. Listerman Q
Hot say that. 1_@§k¬d Hr. Lisihem very ¢mwh@§§C5YT?F§%  q 4
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Qjjicials
$01 him thnt
ion sf the plants
any in;0rmu%ion. Ff; Ti}; ¢_
nel 0; a plant
caurse he $01
is the duty
eas people
any protect
 is rqport
tiaaéc the person
jbr it; gt Qf
as such work
uted that t
ts undertake
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at da nnt wan ay
héy contact te indu
kc or§ani::ticn hav
infsrmaéiun which thug cbéui
I. I stated oneusr, tirr
ha we era not in sympaiay
we prefer to dbi circct with
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thing frsm
stvéalists.
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yking that supsrimposes an
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they still 1$QTF§33¬E?T??iT?E?E§7§§F§§§r;@%hat
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J&#39;aduised Hf. Liatarman tha I sse mm nsceanizw
gr nu? mking Q pr¬as release on thiS maiéer, ga Ema arc
ms ta uta @3;aiwn. Pr. Listermnn agreed with this ?I@L,JL ,,
MP. Liaierman stated that both Smith and Hass were
very pleasant. He stated that he pointed aui ta ihcm cur
various arguments, including ihe fac ihat they ars trying to
mamrp the powers of law enforcement boics. He stated tka
he also pointéd amt ta éhcm hxt he just receiu&d infarmaian
tha§ Gaamberlazn, the assistant ta Néss, is possibly rying t
enlwst some sudents at estern Reserve yniueraity fer making
aaL0tage inusstigatimns; that he pointed out to th§m emphat~V
nally that hese bays wouid know nothing about it and that
they Qerg no? duly canxtuted lac gnfsrcemsnt officers. H9
statea taut these men took the posa¢rQn inat they do no wan;
tn an anything tn disturb any harmuny mhm@$O§gQrJ but tat
they faal tkzt there is feeling an the part af the manufu¢~
turers that there is a need fur such an organization.
ese men asked Aw. Listsrmun whether he
WE could prevent all sabotage g our oraanizaton.
that his reply to that was an inquiry whether they
vent it with theirs. They said that they cmnld
that, but they felt that if they dt moi take some
and thera muS some act of sa0tag§, tcy weuld race,,thsuvht
¥@ stated
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not anwer
acécn,
ue ihe
blame far not %akin§ prayer prgcauxmon. as stuied ghg tgy
believe in msin $aoges in pwferencé to Usin uards or
in. other meids of prsactin
I aguised HT. Listerman that I would nal is ne
irectsr ohau éhis and let him know what ins Qiractar wants
$6 d.
N?. Listerman aduissd that these men aypcured to
be very jriandly absut the whole mutter; that thay did mat
brin up much about the publicity. They saia that there wvula
be an need fer sailing Washington.
I asked Hr. Liaterman whether me was certain that
he said nothinw that they cauld c0n$tPns as our &lsssin@" or
bsnedictian. Ne stated that he was sure he Qid not, bat
that they might mam say that they have canawlted with the
F.E.I. I SHO¬$t6d that we wait >1dsse what their newt meme
will be, and in the meantime I amid iaik la te irecsr
and obtain his opinion.
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I on attaching hereto a brief mevarandum nutltntng
the c»ltcn: feature: in connection with the Industrial
qfczy Com~itceu sf the Tleveland _qfcty nuncil. I
have woticci seuaral press utvrias in ivuéin that the
Prrsident at a recent press conference 25: asked con¢¢rn-E30 thtahorgaztsation and conaaqusntlp thnupht you niphtkc to ave in bdckvrnund. I cannot asprcna too
viaoroualy my camplete disapproval qf organization: Qf
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fnbtihinv thrnunh uiqilantu nroupa.
In .hts particular situation thur is J mvraonary
back;ruuni which causes he to doubt even the sincerity cf
purpoaa of the organiser: of this group. The situatian{n zlcueland is zut gne of aevcral munifsstatlans of the
uewfre of promoters v0 capitalise upon se praaant emer~
genoy aituuntan to thctr own advantagpMby Gtcnpting to
§curp th1lfu?ifion: qf a?ora¢¢tc: J¬;;c:forcengnt ug?nci¢a. n never ¢l in n var oua par a a t 0 caun ry pr uate
detective apenciaa have oontaotcd industrial and busincaa
@r;¢%£:¢:z@n3 in an efwrt tn sell thsir acrviscs far the
4n»li1; Of *1*£r: involainw ea t~nove :uFotcfe andplit ;F0§uR$i@R: ftwrc is, of cw;rr§,no gccakstty forbus£n.eazt@ aurie? it:c1f jinawcialfy "ith tha acrvicaQT a one ws cia N my to prnforn law anforcsnnnt wwrk On
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nnaairabls ts permit tag Qanifh af any tri~3nr%g
arr¢n;@nen¢a by mhian psrsaue gosseaaing iafornation
partainfng ta eapianaga, anboiagv; plant prntsctian and
rslae na@%¢ra must pare Ate iafarmatian tarough tn:
hann qf c third party in arse? thaé it will rsaoh the
fbderci urcau Qf Inusutgationi I aiiams that the
Furaau should inaiea Q: all times upsn nuiaininp Hirent
rwmtact with all puraana in a-pasiiun t0_jurn¤h iwfarmc~
tian of this kind; ha ihsac parsnnn nncfmgers r awglnysaa,
tenant the unnaeeseury and unasirabis kurdsn Qf 0 hrecw
party arrangewen thrnugh whisk data mua p¢an. I know
you will appreaiata that delay, inmceursaymna inmfieienay
will undanh£rd1y rasult in situaninns whare the Furcau does
not deal divest with peraana inva pasifin ta furniéh
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The Industrial bafety Committee of the Cleveland SafetyCouncil was organized shortly after the outbreak of the eurren
European har by Eliot Ness, Director of Public safety at Cleve-
land, Ohio, Lieutenant Hashim, associated with the Navy Department,
Robert Chamberlain, Assistant to Eliot Hess and several other
individuals. The Safety Committeefhasjdesignated itself to serve
as a clearing house for information relating to espionage, sabotage
and subversive activities. The method of operation of the
Committee is to solicit memberships from business and industrial
institutions in the Cleveland metropolitan area and to assess
each member approximately $1.00 per year per employee. The
initial assessment was declared to be twenty- ive cents perquarter per employee but it appeara9thatF?he ¬urrent assessment
92nis eight cents per month per employee. Itos estimated that
there are 150,000 employees engaged by concerns to be approached
for membership by the Committee, which means an income of
approximately $l50,000?OO a year for the Industrial aafety
Committee-
The Committee will function by designating in the various
plants spies who will report through the plant managements to
the Industrial Safety Committee all matters that transpire in
the plant. It has been stated that the information obtained by
the Industrial Safety Committee of Cleveland through these
fchannels will be investigated by a specially selected detail
of the Cleveland Police Department. On other occasions the
promoters of the Industrial Safety Committee have denied that
they will conduct any investigation directly or through the
Cleveland Police Department of information obtained relating
to the National Defense. The questions naturally arise, con-
sidering the functioning of this organization, as to what is
to become of the $150,000.00, whether the Cleveland Police
Uepartment investigates the cases or whether the cases are
referred to the FBI.
Pespite statements of the Cleveland Industrial tafety
Committee promoters that they would not conduct investi ation
in cases involving espionage, sabotage and related matters but
would refer all information received promptly to the Cleveland

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oJ;ico of the FBI! information Que been!received that representativesof the Committo¢ have been/approach%§g la? students at westernReserve Law School in Cleveland and afeF*ng~them positions as
investigators for the Industrial pafety Committee.
Representatives of organized labor have been vigorous in the
attacks and criticisms they have made upon the Committee, its
sponsors and its purposes, claiming that the Committee is actually
attempting to install a system of labor spying within the industrial
institutions-
The Federal Bureau of Investigation was not consulted at any
time concerning the establishment of this organisation, nor were
the views, attitude or advice of the FEI sought in the situation.
The FBI has not sponsored, endorsed, or approved this organization.
The Cleveland Industrial Lafety Committee has not at any time fur-
nished any information whatsoever to the FBI concerning matters
relating to the national defense, despite the fact that one of
the major justifications used by the proponents of the Committee
in soliciting memabershipviis the claim that the Committee w~i11&#39;»-mt
furnish all data received immediately to the FBI in accord with
the Presidential request of beptember 6 1939. The Director ofthe Federal Bureau of Investigation/hasindicated through his!»i.
Special Agent in Charge at Cleveland, Ohio, to Eliot Hess, Cirector
of Public safety, his opposition to any undertaking to penform
duties of law enforcement by civilian groups functioning in the
capacity or manner of a vigilante or civilian secret service
group. In the present situation this condition is aggravated by
the fact that the promoters of the organization have a mercenary
motive because of the potential budget approximating $l50,°O0.00
per annum and virtually negative expenses.
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Washington, D, C. V, __wM % . ;.92_z_ 11.1113.» "Ganth-.nmen:: _ n  H   _II . V 9292.&#39; A The greatest vice ring in the United States i§¢per@, * T*&#39;tha
;¬leve1andX¥alica_Foree under the airection oi Lt. P¬Qer Allan and #1,
Earnesg/Molnar. The g¢~between man whe dees the Bllaéting and Purnisheu
ths girls for these hnuaes of pnasnitution is MgxFsrEls wgth offbbsein"the Ulnar Plg. on the Fublic Square. Ha can bé found ha§§m~ éénd the V. ,, V V _ *., _i_,L _.Clarklg offlcs in th Inlice station on the End float mus§Z§?§ry;@Q%ning.
Yau can ssaily tell which casas are Gaing th&p;§ mffVhg$pittin-
in Lill1an;Wessraop&#39;s Court Room. Max Fsrnle acna as anterney"£or*thosa
pear ereaures and than splits his fee xith Allan, wesuroop and te arr@s*
fficer.  »~~V
V If Allen is afraid that the victim might squeal he will mnks it
his business to frama that party and sand him to the panitentinry as he a
not talk. Allen has no sonscience and weuld stoop to murder to gas pansy
from the little individual who has ta suffer ta get it. If a wCm&n does ml
want to go into that raaken, Allen will hound her until gha givas in.wud .
raids her hnme and put$ an item in the paper so that she is as humiliarcm
that she finally glvaa in because there is nc way out. Then if she ¬el1s
er aven threatens to tell, than she is murdered my ALlén3 g&n@ of Ita1is-
who is living at the Earl Hbtel at E. 32nd ac, n Euclid Avn
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As a Cover; Chuck holds a job as automobile salesman with a concern cg Sup
Ave. I have forgotten the name of the concern, but you can find out where
formerly worked at the Nash Co, at 49th and Euclid Ave, You can gag 3Q gr
confidence by having an older woman who has the appearance of the motherlv
type an» she can get him to tell her everythin¢ By telling Lin he 3: nice
ing and tn»t she1$ going to adopt him and Dive him a chance ca Liv; c Q1;
life. He rea1ly&#39;wou1d like to get out of that racket but he is in it now,
id forced to handle stolen property as that hotel is the fence and full o
dope fienda,/ Ofcourse they pay protection/to Allen and Molnar.
lwhen Mayqp&#39;Bubton took office and ElliotNess was appointed Safety Directo
the people thought that they were goin5to get some protection, but the j-
was too great iprvone man to handle. The police who cannot be bought n6Vc
get anywhere on the police force and they stay on the outside as drivers ~
common beat men. There is one man in particular who is too honest evo he
passed the sargent examination but could not be promoted because he did n<
have the Qhousand Dollars to pay for the promotion. This man would lose 1
job and might be shot if they find out that he ever told this story. Anot
man who might be shot if they find out that he told ahout Seeing two muroe
on Clifton Blvd. in a political men&#39;s home, is HarryHinchlif£e uhos "Air
is 9605 Clifton Bldd, He is now in Miami, Fla. but his wife is still at 92
address, A nice looking woman can handle hinchliffe if she meets him as&#39;a
prospective buyer of real estate in Miami. 
I do want to tell who I am yet; until after I see that you we t:"§ri.r192_; Enclean up Clevilan and they cannot kill me. I will watch the papers and
sen you more nformation to work on.
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Navy
bhfF§v@i*$§2QRiTH3kiS, in charge of he Cleveland seciiwn §;the
fnteliigence Divisian. e infarmed me tha at noon time on
lwnday, the dth, and Tuesday, the Vth, mecings were being
eld at the Terminal Club to which PepPB$¬£GéiU¬$ qf Qutstanding
iniustrial aonoerns in this district were being invited. e
in@i$G$éd hat moi 0&#39;ly he G5 Head Qf the Inteiiigance Eiuisian,but uiso Jr. Elliatazess, Safety iretor, Uéty Qf Uinweiand,
mews uitaliy £ntere$~ed in this maeting and what he was certain
industry alam woaid §e vitally c@ncerned¢ E that all Cleveland
éndia éa thé
of Sabotage in the
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TC or SS iniividua
inc sams number at
ta mast part $331
vcncerns. Lt. as
Q awnditisna as &
and iha vital ine
any interruptinn t
Navy r other Qnva
sabotage, e%@¢ Ne
the L%uy carries 0
s@ficient_funds a
with the advent of
burden of the mark
budget an mih th
praqram which maul
He indinatsd that
praclamatian of t
situation to the a
has ccnsultcd wih
Jess.9 nting on
ers of the
kins wpened t
e knows them
rest mhiah th
0 the proper
rnman Diuisurdsn of he meeting was to
Cleveland District.
Tmeaday, h§
is present and I understand
tended an Hnnday, They mars F5Q?¬SFiC¬iU8S, gar
betier knamn and
he meeting by a gnerl éiscmasion
tn exist in tha
s Emmy Department has in preventing
prosecution cf mark either_for the
tans, growing out f espionpn,be "The Prevention
Fherc were abnu
¢Qt aFfr¢$imac£§
ou$stand£n§ Qlsveland
Claveland istrict
reviewed he type of£nwnsti§a%or;~m@rkvw£@h
n at all times and for which in paces times
re available. e paihcd out, hnweuer, that
recent wartime conditiana, ha §xteh% and
rapidly assumed such prnpnrtians fhat the meager
sq orsrate is entirelv incdc mate ta sunvari a ~f J AQ .1 A
 be Hi all ndvqnms for the nrahlems sresrnté.
therefara, fel it his duty nner the resent
e rresidant of the nied States, ta sail ne
ttentinn af icon} nuthnritisa and he, therefnre,
and advised with Birectar Hess. ircctsr ess
became intensely interested in the prspasition at felt that such
sagwestiona SS Lt. Haskins had made ta him were entiraly inadequats
to Cpa with the sitmatien an it maa frsw the disnussinws qf eas
and Lt. Hashins that the plan which was presented to the graup was
concv£ued¢ Lt* Faskins then turned the meeti nuar e irecécr
Essa opened his remarks by a review n peneralired terms of
the situatian as he sees it in tha Sicueland district Pr@n the
H : ll  . , " ."3: . r &#39; .4 ll  -"L .. -,5 ~_  P" _-[1 &#39;QGdpGiH of snbuers
gnrces exist in the S
¬8pi0GQ8 andisabotag
duck organizatiansJ
ave @CthUlu1¬3 an L¢e exhent R0 whzaa org nzspa
i¢§ @f&#39;¬l@veiand jaw the carrying on cf
8 wnrk, if and when it bccmmas expsdient far
to begin funvtioning. e strcssed the inadequacy
u;any avernmental funds far prnysrlg invesigainp and preunting
such sabotage or running down information on thos§ grpups at indigf_
duals who might be potential agents sf such activities. e alas
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indicatd that he felt cme sari of arganistion was
which waul enable such work to be carfied on outsié
Citw "apartments usually inched to to cope wiah snc
Jnis $§¢uu§a of both the lack sf funds and @130, and
antla, beoauaa heir every expenditure and acion és
scrutiny of the ¬lcueland City Geuncil which in such
mat particularly sympathetié. é csnceiped the idea
carrying an such work, a special committee af éhe Cl
Council would be an appropriate means. He feels hi
because the Safety Council is vitally iteP@$tsd in
life and prnpery cf the Cig. A130, the sufetg Gan
going nncern, thus eliminating the nscessityfar h
af a new grnup or bady to carry an ths mark, e sis
wisé $0 utilies the Jafsg Couneil as a areas in mhircgxired
the dqffnite
3;; ~ .
mare in,uF?
opcn to {e
matters is
that,for
eueland Safety
s is up;r@priste
th sa5@¢y Qj
nail is u
6 rganization
0 feeis it
ch in workE
H AI
because; swnld he experiment n0%_pr0ue satisfactnry, it can
be ubnndnned readily, and with little Gr no puhlicit1&#39;
Fif -
1 92 _In general th& plan a5campaign mania De ta mgr
employees cf the various individual 83GFIi$hment5*Mmsed that industry furnish the speciai_commi%tes a;t&e Jafetyfounil with lists ef employees who in the epinian f the industryH &#39; N 1-, , , . 1 , i *  my Invlued arr Vtrustworthg" V ye he impreasian t
names wauld e needed or wanted but they Should bs LA tkrsugh
I is HFG~
aa art ma
ngiviuls who
are sratepicallg loaated in the plant cad miph be in positinn to
pick up valuable infnrmatian. ?hese indavinuazs mania he hnrnughlg
iu@§5i§@t@d hp methws whfah appmreniy Hess has available and are
qfeciuw, and m§ch, we were assured wmul in no ya
anyons ne gnci that such lists of names were fnrnis
emplnger. irom that paint on, in"usryVwnnld have n
The $p@Cial csmmi mnuld cansist, at lsast sf thé
irector Akss, Lt. Hnskins sf the fang I&£el7¬§Qnce
Smith, Secretary Q? $58 Flwueland Jafetg Cauncil, C
of the Navy fntelii~anc@ Reserves, and ;nssibiy ONE
Ail Qf t&eir centasts mik their cantact man in the
twin? plants wauld be held enirely qf the premise
contact man would knpw who any Q? the ather cnntact0
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relative to an a nouncement of a ::rI*0-*-"rim: of nrote-:.t.io:1 asx;.a1;i_r=¢,<:%. ~ £1 K A ~ &#39; . _
fire and sabotage in~Q1_Leveland. indu.:=::,x~i;1.1. 1~&#39;L¢.:;t3_ *:,§~; .g;=_§_,1,;,~.§_1*,-,§;_»g._ w. ~
meat being mam by Qirectnr of .Eub.lr;c: 5:1,i;5;.;w ;iL§.,:§<&#39;;<l i;."1S;3.  ;,. »~1
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prints of each imgilnrtaaii; pl;-Mt s§r1 :->:"F=_::F1: Lhe   ?.,1;,>w; -xi. it-I _
the plant, the lO&#39;3&#39;E£ti. >i1 oi? ifim i@*=:imn1::;_, L,-l*:-,:».",=::.92i;:&#39; .z;P.v:~::s-5, .1.:<1
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hired by this plants» V &#39;
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mint of blueprints an-:1 amps o£ xm~;I~.=»>n;; isms:-1~rL:.l =.- on,&#39;:¢:1:1s
the part Di him Ia.lC.i.i1.-ff oii&#39;icars of aha: {ire tlega-::rt;:1»:r1t; vsuch
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