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COMMENTARY by Candace Owens — "Blake Neff Blacks Out On 9/10. Andrew Kolvet Comes Clean About Netanyahu. | Ep 359" (published 2026-07-14).
This is third-party opinion/analysis ABOUT State of Utah v. Tyler James Robinson — NOT the court record. It is indexed for comparison against the primary transcripts/filings. Transcript is the YouTube auto-caption track (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3VKJVJ7cN4) — verbatim ASR.
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. We have a very interesting show for you today. It took us a lot of prepping. Because like I said, the obvious point of this assault from the overwhelmed influencers is to distract us from the actual investigation. A lot of stuff is coming up. And so we have to return to it with a very interesting lead regarding that unidentified object in the backseat of Charlie's SUV, the one um that he took to the hospital while they were supposed to be providing life-saving measures to him. Um at the same time Ben Shapiro is getting updates. A lot going on. What we didn't expect was to receive a flurry of emails regarding what that object might be. It's very interesting. Also Blake Neff, man, he is drawing, I guess, a a very interesting blank regarding what he was doing on the morning of September 10th. It's bizarre. I'm going to let you hear what he has to say, what he doesn't remember. Strange day to not remember things. There's an entire portion of that morning that he just doesn't remember anything. And I have a hunch about why that might be. The person he seems to be protecting very obvious to me. Lastly, Andrew Kolb accidentally admits that I'm not a liar while accusing me of being a liar. It was really strange. He's a total doofus as we already know. But there seems to be sort of a corporate-wide crash out that's happening right now. And frankly, they're all just saying too much. So let's see what we can learn from them. Okay, so top of show very quickly, I want to share with you guys those very interesting flutter of emails, unexpected, that we received when we asked the question before we went on air. We released more photos from inside the vehicle that Charlie was transported to the hospital in, and you can make out what looks to us to be those shards of glass from the road, Mike. But, there was this one identifiable object that was left in the back of the car. You guys might remember it, the one that I remarked sort of looked like a burnt piece of cardboard. I didn't really know what to make of it. What Why does this look like a burnt piece of cardboard with blood, but sort of thickened? Here it is a little closer here. Well, we opened that question to you guys, because I'm not an expert at everything. What I am good at is trusting other people to be experts at things and accumulating a bunch of information from them. And when I see a pattern in the emails emerge, I suspect that there's something there. And there certainly was a pattern that emerged. We had, oddly, people in the fashion industry reaching out, a ton of them, insisting, immediately and persistently, that what we were looking at was the remains of a t-shirt. Huh? I went, "What? Excuse me. Okay, what are we talking about?" We had a range, by the way. We had people who were stay-at-home mothers, who have sewed their own kids' clothing, people in the fashion industry, and on top of that, doctors, plastic surgeons, who emailed and said, "You are looking at a shirt." So, with that that full spectrum, I thought, "Oh, we got to take a look at this." They were informing me that when polyester mix, or a polyester entirely polyester shirts burn, they turn into what looks like an almost hardened plastic or cardboard. And I'm going to read you just one of these comments and one of these emails, so you can just, I guess, see what we were receiving. Here's a YouTube comment that came in. "Really bad internet here. I tried to respond. When talking about the little square thick piece, I have been making clothing for years as a mother of 10. This piece is a collar from the t-shirt. The black would more than likely be from the burning of the explosion, but the thick folded and end that's facing the camera most surely the bias band, the seam of the t-shirt that looks clearly cut off. Again, this was echoed by people in the fashion industry. And then from our our tips inbox we got this from an actual doctor. Take a listen to this. I mean, I'm going to read this email to you. It said, "Please call me a plastic surgery nurse if you use this. Do not use my name for they are evil and I take care of too many people in my life for me to be fired or lose my life. I started to email during the question of the pulse oximeter. Used one today. The silver, I believe, is the hypothermia blanket that comes in that medical pack. I think you figured that out. Your mind is asking the right questions, but what is the charred burned thing on the ground? It is his shirt. I have taken care of multiple burns as a plastic and reconstructive surgery nurse, and that is his shirt. How? Just flatten out that bunched up piece. Flatten it out in your mind. Flip over the right side in your mind. The top part is the bloody top of the white shirt. The back is scorched. Why? How? Because electrical current is hot and the shirt had some polyester in it. When polyester is heated, it melts. It does literally like it it looks literally like a licked cardboard. I had a patient that got burned by a grill and his shirt melted onto his skin uh stuck to the skin. Part of it looked just like that. It only had a little polyester in it. Polyester is plastic. It took a procedure called debridement to get to the charred shirt off of his skin in spots. The black is necrotic burnt skin like burning a piece of chicken skin. I'm sorry for the visual, but it is dead skin, burnt skin. They likely ripped off his shirt and ripped off his skin. So, in my opinion, it is a shirt, burnt polyester, and charred skin. Do an experiment. Find that type of shirt and lay it on an electrical eye in the stove. Think about what it would do to the skin, burn onto it. You see it all the time at blank. You can call a burn MD. Hope that helps. You are in my prayers. Please be safe, really safe. Crisis King and never give up. Go Max. So again, the repetition of these emails made me think that the experts, the people who work in these industries, might know what they're talking about and I suddenly was looking all over my house for a polyester shirt, couldn't find one. Best I could do was a mixed polyester shirt. Baron Coleman was here the other day and he told me that he thinks that that particular shirt that Charlie was wearing was 100% polyester, but the best I could find was a 50% poly mixed shirt this morning and we are waiting to receive a full polyester one. We went ahead and just started burning stuff. We We and the team went outside and we just started burning the shirt. And I'm going to show you the result that we got. I was totally surprised to see, of course, we don't have blood on the shirt that we burned, but this is what we got. And I have to tell you guys, I think there is something here. When you look at the other object, look at this. Look at this comparison. We did this this morning. On the right, on the left, you are looking at that remain. And then we had people that were telling us that they think that that portion up top that's quite thickened might even be remnants of the road. Mike, I don't know about that, but that tippity top part that you're seeing is what she is referring to when she says the collar, the seam. I can see that now. We received another email where a woman is telling me that you're looking at the F of the shirt. I can't quite make that out. But I'm stunned by this. I'm stunned that we were able to replicate that and it's not perfect. Obviously, an explosion versus us just lighting something in a fire pit is going to be different, but I am stunned by that plausibility. I'm going to keep you posted. I think there is something there. I'm actually trying to get my hands on what was left behind in Charlie's vehicle. I'm ever determined. Moving on to Turning Point USA and their affiliates, they are obviously losing their minds right now, okay? Of that there is no doubt. They are throwing every stone, making every accusation. They are getting their hands really dirty. And in the process, of course, making things infinitely worse for themselves because the genius at the organization well he's no longer here. Charlie Kirk was the only one with any brain, it turns out. But you can start to sense this real desperation. You're wondering where it's coming from. You've got to bring influencers to court. Andrew Kolburt is all over the place. I mean and I would say just taking a look at the big picture, one of the issues is that they lack focus. Even the um the influencers, they race from one illogical point to the next point, forgetting what their accusations were yesterday that don't add up to their accusations today. At first, the mainstream talking point was Candace secretly loved Charlie. She wanted him to herself. She wanted to be Erica. She wanted to marry Charlie, but he didn't love her. But now they've done a complete 180. While I was in Spain, they shifted gears and they said, "No, no, no, no, okay, that's not working. It wasn't love. It was the exact opposite. Candace secretly hated Charlie." That's what you're starting to see all over the place. She hated him. That came direct from Andrew Kolburt and Audley Blake Neff. Who I also feel that I I haven't made this clear to you guys. I don't know that man. I don't know that creature. Blake Neff and me, we don't we don't go back cuz he had nothing to do with the Turning Point story. In fact, he never worked for Turning Point USA if if he is to be believed, right? He works on the radio side of things. He didn't even get hired to work with Charlie at all in any capacity until 2022 after um he was fired from Fox News or had to move on from Fox News because of some racist comments. He then work went to work for Stu Peters and then he moved on to start working with Charlie after Tucker Carlson recommended him because he's loyal. Blake Neff did not return that loyalty. Blake Neff doesn't have a loyal bone in his body. Yet he has been the most vocally invested person, I would say, at Turning Point in making sure that no one asks any questions, that no one investigates the Charlie Kirk murder outside of the federal narrative. Blake watched our episode yesterday as he does every day. I know Blake personally uh probably had his routine disrupted while I was gone for 2 weeks. And he tweeted this in response, quite odd. Quite odd res- He said, "I decided against my better judgment to briefly turn on Candace." Okay, Blakey, you watch every episode. And she was spouting some theory about UVU's military-affiliated student hub, MASH, as a part of the conspiracy. Yeah, I think that's enough for me. Remember, Candace privately envied and hated Charlie and she wants his killer to be get away with it. Okay, Blakey. Um weird thing to take away from yesterday's episode. Talked about a lot. It's an oddly specific thing to hone in on. That particular detail is something Blake felt that he wanted to immediately uh dissuade as a fact, by the way. Just introduce a fact. That on the third floor of the Loaiza Student Center, where you're seeing all these video people going up and down, it is the MASH Student Center, the military-affiliated student center. So of everything that he could be upset with regarding yesterday's episode, why did that fact disturb him? Lest we forget, uh Blake's truer background is in military strategy. He supported war-gaming exercises for the Marine Corps before he was removed from that position following racist commentary. So Blake himself is or was military affiliated and for whatever reason his memory regarding September 10th a day that is etched in my mind in remarkable detail has grown fuzzy. You see, we have to remember that Charlie had an event before the event which I said was unusual. It's like he didn't they didn't want him to land in Provo. He does this this restaurant event and does his last interview with a guy named Andrew Smith. He flies into Salt Lake City, not Provo. Blake Neff was on board that private jet with Charlie to Salt Lake City on that morning. Mikey McCoy was also aboard that jet. Mikey McCoy rented just two SUVs in Salt Lake City which were to meet them. We know that one was carrying Charlie and Mikey McCoy and Frank Turek and John McGovern who works in gifts at Turning Point USA, raises money for them. And we assume security. We know it's not Dan Flood to that Savory Fund restaurant event for Charlie's final interview. But it turns out that the other SUV when they landed carried Blake Neff to He doesn't know. He doesn't remember. He knows he didn't go to the restaurant event. But he doesn't know where he did went or why he woke up early to go nowhere in Salt Lake City. Where did the SUV go? Who was driving it? What were they doing? I kid you not, Blake Neff jumped onto an X space and is trying to sell that he just simply doesn't remember what he did when he declined to just go with Charlie for his final interview. Take a listen and I'm sorry in advance. There's a lot of people talking over each other. It's an X space so it's a bit of a frustrating listen, but you'll get the point. >> At the Savory Fund interview with Andrew Smith before he went to UVU. >> And prior I wasn't at that event. I was in the I was in the other SUV. >> So, where were you in between time? When you got off the plane, where did you go? >> I was in the other SUV. >> Did you go straight there? Did you go straight to UVU? >> We had two SUVs. I was in the one Charlie wasn't in and I was somewhere. I don't I actually have no idea where they parked it. >> What do you mean you don't know where you were? >> I've never been I'd never been to Utah before. We had >> So, you got off the plane with Charlie, you jumped in the other SUV. Where did you go? >> We went somewhere. Why would I Why would I >> You went somewhere. >> Why would I remember that? Like, can you consider for just one moment that I did not know Charlie was going to >> Did you go straight to the UVU event? >> around the Orem, Utah area. We went >> Surely you've been asked these questions by the authorities, right? >> Why would I be asked the questions like that by the authorities? >> Key witness to a murder. >> No, I'm not. I'm one of hundreds >> Surely you can Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Surely you can remember where what you did that morning. >> I'm a key witness to Charlie's life. I'm not a particularly important witness to the murder. >> So, you got off the plane, you got in the SUV. Where did you go? Hang on. Let me finish the question. Where did Where did you go? >> What do you mean where did I go? >> You got off the plane, you got in the SUV. >> Did you go to a restaurant? Did you go to the golf club? Where did you go? >> We drove somewhere and because I wasn't going to that event, we just like parked and we marked time until the actual Utah Valley event. >> Who else was in your car? Do you have a security guy with you? >> I I don't remember the specific people in my car. I believe I >> Ah, come on, Blake. >> Why would Again, why would I remember all of these things? >> It's pretty easy. It was just you and Danny Philip. >> That might be who it was. Yeah. I That might have Any takers? Any takers on you flew on a private plane, you landed, and you got into an SUV, and someone just Men in Blacked your memory, and you have no idea where the car went, you have no idea who was driving, you have no idea who was there, because why would you remember? You should remember cuz it's like not every day that you take a private plane to a place that you've never been and get into an SUV. It's bizarre. And then you see at the end someone says, "You were with Danny Philip." Okay, so we Danny Philip flew with them. Um and then beyond that, I don't know if more people were in the car. Beyond that, the only thing he can remember is that they drove off and they went somewhere unknown to, and I quote, "Mark time." Where they went they don't know. But they went to to mark time. I mean, if you don't want to go to the event with Charlie, why wouldn't you just sit in the parking lot at the event that Charlie was going Ladies and gentlemen, something is very wrong with that lapse. Okay? And a piece of what's wrong and what my mind immediately went to is uh Danny Philip. Because who is Danny Philip? That's an important question, actually. Uh Danny Philip is is very young. He just graduated college in May of 2025. He's hired right out of college um to work for Charlie. Danny Philip, you might recall many moons ago when we discussed Mikey McCoy's call logs. Before Charlie got shot at 12:02, Mikey McCoy was on the phone with Danny Philip. I thought they were just both at the event. Maybe I don't know what the phone call was about. And then after Charlie gets shot, he's on the phone for 10 minutes with Danny Phillip. I thought it initially was Danny McCollum, no, it's Danny Phillip, this young kid fresh out of college. Um and I got to thinking, you know, what again, why were there so many of these new young employees that day that were given such VIP roles? Remember we discussed Catherine Locastro, she was on the plane with Erica escorting Erica. After Charlie died, why? Why would you take a young girl? Such a serious thing. Do you know each other? Danny Phillip, Charlie Kirk's assistant, that's a pretty big job. You know, he had interned for them the previous summer. Uh but he was selected, this young guy to fly private with Charlie to go to Salt Lake City that morning, but apparently he didn't have to assist Charlie? Charlie Kirk's assistant just went to go mark time with Blake Neff at what How old's this guy? 21, 22 years old? He gets awarded a seat on a private jet to then go be ushered into an SUV to sit and do nothing. Well, how about you go get Charlie some water? How about you follow him around and shine his shoes? What are you doing? Who are you? Like I said, you're you're 21, 22 and you're taking like a $10,000 seat on a private plane so you can go watch Blake Neff breathe? No, mm-mm. We're not being told the truth. Something's not right. Like I said, Danny was hired in May of 2025. According to his LinkedIn, he graduated from Ohio State University. That's correct. He was running the Turning Point chapter at Ohio State University or was a part of the Turning Point chapter. And then he went straight to work for Turning Point USA. But this was not a random appointment by any means. The fact that Blake Neff was reticent to say he was with Danny Phillip made me more interested in Danny Phillip. I went to people at Turning Point and said, "Who is this guy?" Everyone says, "I don't know. We're kind of told he was a family friend and he got this like big job working for Charlie. He's, you know, kind of quiet. So, I got to doing what I do best. I said, "Okay, well, who's who is this guy who got in the job? Why do I feel like there's going to be a connection to Tyler Boyer?" You see, the key to understanding who Danny Philip is is his grandfather. Who I was shocked when I discovered who it was because I knew his grandfather personally before he passed in 2021. Thank you, Andrew Cole that for reminding me. You thought you were surprising the internet about the fight that Charlie and I had. You got to watch more of my show. You got to ask Blake. We already discussed the argument that Charlie and I had regarding Ike Perlmutter, the check, the money. 2019 when I said I felt that people were intentionally forces were pulling me and Charlie apart. Suddenly, there's this smear campaign calling me anti-Semitic. Um and at virtually the exact same time, Turning Point had this major donor. Major donor. Was very, I thought, good to me named Thomas Patrick. Thomas Patrick personally informed me via email that Charlie Kirk was lying to me about money. That is Danny Philip's granddaddy. You know, I got to know who everybody's granddaddy is and I I like I fell apart when I realized that who his grandfather was. I said, "I know that man." I still have a text messages between me and Charlie regarding Thomas Patrick's email to me and I'm going, "What is happening, Charlie? Literally, what is Why are you What is going on?" And now I learn Danny Philip is his grandson and I am, like I said, beside myself. I I needed a second today to process this because it returns returns me to the theory that Charlie and I were having our strings pulled. And I'm going to tell you more. Thomas Patrick was the um executive vice chairman and CEO of Merrill Lynch. That's wealth management investment firm. He worked there for 25 years in Chicago. Big guy, boss, very connected, very political, okay? Chicago, not an easy place to make it in. Uh and he was the top of the food chain. Until 2003, he was unceremoniously escorted out of his office for a scandal in which he was accused of all things orchestrating a political smear campaign against Eliot Spitzer, who he didn't like. Now, Merrill Lynch, um for the uninitiated, you sure you've seen it. You're You're going, "That sounds like Bank of America." Merrill [clears throat] Lynch is the wealth management and investment firm. And like I said, 25 years there is not a short tenure. When you he he was he was a top guy, top boss, executive vice pre- chairman. And he was so powerful uh it's stunning for me to process that he played a big role in convincing me that Charlie was moving behind my back. You will note and remember perhaps in 2008 following the financial crisis, Merrill Lynch was acquired by Bank of America. So, it became Bank of America Merrill Lynch. That's going to become relevant. Because Danny Philip's father, Steven Philip, worked for Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Chicago. Chicago, Chicago, Chicago everywhere. At the same time that he worked at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Chicago, so did Tyler Boyer's father, major executive at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. And he has cleaned the internet of his LinkedIn, graduated from Arizona State University. Another coincidence is that Danny Philip, his Merrill Lynch Bank of America dad, also, you know, Tyler speaks Russian, majored in Russian studies, same for Danny Philip's dad. I don't know if you remember a long time ago I was telling you that it is indeed remarkable just how many people at Turning Point USA are fluent in Russian. In fact, I remember that being one of the things that Irina Mappin, married to John Mappin, he's the one who wrote that beautiful letter about Charlie, fiercely loyal, instantly said something's not right and we need to know what happened. He's married to Irina and Irina is fluent in speaking Russian and she remarked to me in a private phone call that the thing that struck her as very odd about the memorial event was that everyone was speaking Russian. She was disturbed by how many Russian speakers were in VIP and that makes sense. You've got Tyler Boyer, you've got Elizabeth McCoy and her entire Ukrainian family, you've got Rob McCoy who adopted a girl from Russia, remember? There are just so many Eastern European never-ending ties when it comes to Turning Point USA. Irina said I've just never seen so many Russian speakers in Arizona. I bet. Anyway, I want to show you this visual guide that I put together because it's this Bank of America thing is super interesting to me, okay? So you've got Tom Patrick, Tom Patrick, major Turning Point donor uh Merrill Lynch top brass um for or right before it merged with Bank of America. Um you've got Stephen Phillip, that's going to be Daniel Phillip's dad who is the vice president also in Chicago, Bank of America Merrill Lynch Russian studies, you've got Danny Phillip who gets the job as Charlie Kirk's assistant um just ahead of Charlie Kirk's assassination. On this one, you've got Tyler, of course, I told you he's the guy who hired everyone, he knows everyone. And his dad who's an exec at Bank of America. In fact, Tyler Boyer's first job was at Bank of America. And he is, you look him up from the relic in looks like New Jersey and Chicago uh at the same time as Stephen Phillip I Then you've got Remember Dennis Franks Bay? Erica's cousin who showed her around Romania, the Black Sea rotational force. Well, at the same time that these guys were at Bank of America Chicago, so was Erica Franks Bay's cousin Dennis. What are the odds? Ever- Everyone's just so connected here. Bank of America Merrill Lynch, 2008-2022. Um he's also involved in the military before that, as you guys know. After he left the military, he went to work for Bank of America Merrill Lynch and then stopped quickly to show Erica around the Black Sea rotational force. Um so that's interesting. That's really interesting to me. I was interested. I'm going to keep looking into all of these people that I thought were just so young and very involved that day and seeing if I could just sort of piece them all together, their families. If everybody goes back, everyone seems to just kind of go back and be in this orbit of Tyler Boyer and Co. By the way, funny story. I don't know if you knew this, but Bank of America actually settled with Epstein victims in March of this year. Yeah, they were sued because they were managing wealth, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, of the major Epstein associate Leon Black. I'm sure you've heard of him. He's all over the Epstein files. And um Bank of America moved $170 million to Epstein. The victims sued Bank of America for not following their own protocols and flagging the suspicious financial activities, which they said would have led them to the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in a trafficking ring. Anyway, they settled for I think like $79 million. 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Maybe there was a car rented somewhere from Provo, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas that was a Dodge Challenger. I just find that that might be interesting. If you know anything more [email protected]. Also maybe you saw a bald man that looked like he was suffering from amnesia on September 10th. You were driving and you saw him on the side of the road and he said, "I'm marking time. I'm marking time." If that's you, we want to hear from you. More [email protected] cuz we've got a confused bald man who doesn't remember what he was doing on a very a day that is seems to be actually in the minds of people all over the world, but not him. He has no idea what he's doing. And beyond that, Frank Turek's story about attending the restaurantology event is getting interesting because it was confirmed that Charlie was in the green room. That he had three people with him. We know for a fact Johnny McGovern was with him. We know Mikey McCoy was with him and we're trying to figure out and we know his cousin was with him. Uh we're trying to figure out did Frank Turek not go to the green room with him? He admits that he left and went outside or left a little early. And Frank Turek keeps tripping over his stories like quite a bit. And so was Frank Turek, did anybody see Frank Turek at the restaurantology event? Was he in the car with Blake and Neff? Like I said, everybody's memory is hazy. We're here to help. More [email protected]. [email protected] and I can't wait tomorrow. We got a huge lead on who Ben Shapiro was at lunch with um on the 10th. The morning of the 10th in LA. And so we will be uh we're in the process of vetting that information and we will be delivering that information tomorrow. Moving on, I do want to get to this report that was published. Now, you may have seen it. It's absolutely bonkers. The same people that brought you Christ is King is anti-Semitic. The NCRI. They do focused reports on I think really just me, things that I say. And they were really pushing and peddling a couple of years ago that Crisis King is anti-Semitic. They released this report during Lent. It backfired, obviously. Chief among people who were very critical of this report was Charlie Kirk himself. And Charlie didn't care that the NCRI had Johnny Moore on their board, Andrew Kolbenschlag's old partner Johnny Moore on the board of NCRI when the Crisis King report was published. This twerp. Look at him. And then he also was a part, of course, of this report that was published about me, accusing me on the day, the first day of the Tyler Robinson trial, of being a digital assassin. I'm sure, even though Andrew Kolbenschlag was pushing this report, that he had no idea it was coming up. He's just responding naturally, the PR guy. Anyway, it's entitled Permission to Kill. Look, kill is in red. Ooh. They're serious, guys. Focus groups sat down and said, "Let's put the word kill in red." And they have um obviously a target, gunshot, and then they a scope looking at someone, and it says, "How Candace Owens built a digital assassination culture targeting Erica Kirk." Okay. So, what is the purpose of this? We should talk about that. I got all of these emails, it wasn't just them, but tons of organizations while I was on I mean, tons of media groups were reaching out asking me to comment on this. I think we had Politico, "What do you say about the fact that they researched and saw that it's because of you saying Erica's a psychopath was one of their points, calling Erica a psychopath on Sean Ryan, which literally um aired that week, that that leads to people wanting to kill Erica Kirk? Calling somebody a clinical psychopath makes other people want to kill them, really? So, why aren't you guys doing a report on like Andrew Colevad and Blake Neff? I mean, if Blake Neff referred to me as a knife-wielding psychopath on the subway, did that lead to me getting death threats? Does this only work one way? What about all these influencers that are constantly calling me sociopathic, crazy, a grifter, uh targeting me, uh the widow, these people that are going out there and have been non-stop producing content about me since I said really Christ is king. Does that put a target on my back? Oh, no, it's only it's only Erica. You can't notice when Erica is lying to you and recognize the signs of someone who is clinically dissociated and might actually be a psychopath. Why would I want Erica to be hurt? Why would I want somebody who is dissociated to be hurt? Why can't we discuss clinical terms um without you accusing me of murder? Why are you accusing me of of setting the groundwork for someone to be harmed? I've never done that. I've never ever done that. I've never said go out and I've never even said don't go to Erica's events. Erica's done that. Erica made personal phone calls to priests telling them not to attend an event that I was at cuz that's how she behaves behind the scenes while she in the front pretends she's a victim. Behind the scenes she's quite nasty, actually. That's fact. She's been leading these attacks against me. I'm sure she was on the phone with Johnny Moore cooking this one up. Maybe she wasn't. If she wasn't, then she should be concerned. Okay? Because when I walk through this in my mind, the absurdity of the case that is before us, when I look at the non-facts that are being presented, when I look at their intent of bringing social media influencers into the courtroom, which just makes a mockery of a justice system and proves that they do not have truth on their side, I then in my mind take it to its natural end. What are they going to do? You're going to arrive at the moment where everything unfolds. It feels like we're there. Right? It's all coming apart at the seams. Blake's coming apart, Andrew's coming apart, influencers are dramatizing, collapsing, overwhelmed, just trying to sell this thing. Right? Like, "Oh, what are we going to do?" Everyone all-out assault on Candace, bringing up people from the woodwork for like, "Candace took her pencil in third grade and she has something to say. We're bringing her on the show today." I really I did actually in third grade I I did erase someone's name on homework cuz I was afraid to not turn it in. Never mind, it doesn't matter. Anyways, I hope they don't find Cathy. I did take Cathy's homework. I'd like to confess that right now. But, the broader point is what are they doing? Why are they Why are they appealing and going into the woodwork and bringing all these people out and attacking me non-stop? It feels like they're losing big time. I mean, they're getting delusional. Candace has no audience, it's over. She's crashing and burning. I mean, like what are we talking about? Is it possible that to deal with this, they're going to like kill Tyler? Or they're going to like make up some plan and pretend like Erica couldn't deal She was overwhelmed. And then they're going to go, "Oh, we're pinning it on Candace and now we also have to dial back speech laws." Doesn't that seem like they're they're kind of setting the stage for that? All of the usual suspects coming out with something that does not pass the sniff test because no one deals with more online attacks on a daily basis than me. Tens of millions of dollars is being spent. I am listed. Me and Tucker Carlson in the Faradox. They're admitting it. They're not hiding it. We have to take down Tucker and Candace Owens and we're willing to spend the money to do it. And yet, nobody makes a report and says if Candace anything happens, if anyone says anything about Candace, they're digital assassins. They don't put somebody else in a scope. What gives? It feels to me like it could be the beginning of a plot. A government plot. We can't win this thing. We need to get influencers, independent journalists off of this entirely. We need a big event that allows us to crawl back speech. Think of it like 9/11. 9/11 happens and then it's like, well, we got to take away your freedom. We got to get this bill passed immediately, take your shoes off and belts off at the airport, and now the government is allowed to spy on you because this terroristic event happened and we're doing this for safety. I feel like that needs to be said. That people are sensing that that's their plan. And here, you know, to pull like, you know, Erica got harmed by someone or Erica harmed herself. And this none of this would have happened if it wasn't this culture of {quote} digital assassination. And may I just state emphatically that Charlie Kirk was so opposed to this this idea that speech equates to violence when you're not calling for violence? You're investigating real violence and now they're saying you investigating the violence is the violence. Huh? Charlie was emphatically against that. And the fact that Andrew Kolb is sharing that and perpetuating that culture well, it just reinforces what we've always known. Andrew Kolb is a traitor. My dream was correct. Check. Accurate. Speaking of Andrew and the Kairos company and Johnny Moore Andrew Kolb during his crash out um was still trying to protect BB, but in the process admitted that I was telling the truth. I have maintained, I think since September, it might be October. Haven't changed my story once. That Andrew Kolb called me and he told me about the happens. I My source was Andrew Kolb. It was. I told Erica that when we met face-to-face and uh she conceded that yes, BB and Yahoo did call at Bill Ackman's house. She now her reason for Bill Ackman calling was that he was following up on the letter that Charlie wrote him in May, but that's not what Andrew Kolb told me. He He me that BB offered to take Turning Point to the next level. And Charlie said no. That's all he said. And Charlie said no. He also described how he the Hampton Summit was like an intervention. And he also communicated to me on the BB front, that's all he said. But he also communicated communicated to me that Charlie had declined Happy Beyond These are things that I could not have known. I could I I was not at the Hampton Summit, right? I was not at the Hampton Summit. So how did I know that BB called? If I'm not telling the truth, how did I know? So early that BB Netanyahu called and made this phone call. How did I know that Charlie, something that only Andrew Kolbakh could have known? In that same phone call, that Charlie declined to Happy Beyond, which demonstrates the state of Charlie's mind against BB. That's the Prime Minister of Israel. If Charlie was pro-Israel when he died, that'd be a pretty good guy to have on your podcast. But instead, he was relegated to smaller influencers because Charlie didn't want to have him on. He was turning against Israel. It was not a joke when he texted the night before that he was done with Israel. Everyone saw it coming. And people who were his friends knew that these were discussions that we were having over the last year. Anyways, this is what Kolbakh tweeted. He conceded basically every part of that conversation except for the offer. He said this. Again, this is Candace admitting that she has zero proof. I asked for proof and she screams, "I'll take a lie detector test. Guys, I promise." She's adding caveats, hedging, changing her story. She did not change her story once. But it's important to point out what she just did here. The psychology behind it is wild. Okay, Kolbakh is going to pretend he's smart now. She gets called out for a bold-faced lie, a central lie to her entire narrative. Then he immediately retreats back to two true things that are insignificant in an attempt to confer truth onto the original key lie. So he's saying I'm playing the game, two For for reason? Then he then concedes, yes, we politely declined having Netanyahu on the show. So what? And yes, months later CK took a call from him after he wrote him a letter. Again, so what? Neither are extraordinary neither explain her next ridiculous leap and Netanyahu offered to take TPUSA to the next level and that I lost out on either millions or billions when CK declined. All complete idiocy. Okay, so beyond this doesn't even matter. He's admitting that I told the truth. I have stuck to the exact same story. I have not pivoted once from my story that Andrew Kolb that told me this. And so now he's saying, well, I she told the truth like 75% but then that last point was definitely a lie and she just maintained that lie forever. Why would I maintain that lie? It's what I was told. It's what from Andrew Kolb that. I've never changed that and then it was confirmed from a family friend of Andrew Kolb that who wrote me and said that Andrew said that he lost out on millions when Charlie said no. So the Charlie said no came from Andrew Kolb that and the fact that he lost out on some residual income came from somebody who confirmed that that yes, that did actually happen uh because he was venting about that when he came back to California. Andrew beyond anything else, why didn't you confirm this earlier that I was telling the truth? Was it weird for you when Bibi Netanyahu was pretending that Charlie had no issues with him and it was all love when you knew that Charlie declined to have him on the show when you knew uh the night before that Charlie was a fearful that he was going to be killed when you knew the night before that he was on uh a text thread saying that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel call uh cause, things that you never wanted to tell the public? You didn't tell the public any of this. So the fact that you're finally conceding to the majority of it doesn't make you look like a good guy. It makes you look like a scumbag. Because you should have told the public first. Erica should have told the public first. It shouldn't be me that is telling people what he was living through with the Zionists who were peer-pressuring him and growing increasingly more maniacal in their exam in their demands of who he was allowed to speak to, who was allowed to speak at his events. Charlie was done with it. You lied. And by the way, I don't think silence is violence, but I do think your silence is cowardice. Your silence uh does actually commit onto you some guilt. It's way We're way too far down. 10 months later, you admit that I told you about everything, and you're still lying about the last bit. You did tell me that Bibi Netanyahu called and offered to take Turning Points next level next level, and Charlie declined just like he declined him on his show. So, I'll leave it at that. Uh you do not look good, and I think the entire world can see that you are the Judas of the story. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys. Do you owe back taxes? Do you maybe have years of unfiled returns? Or maybe you file every year and you still can't seem to get ahead because the balance keeps growing? Maybe you withdrew money from your 401k or IRA, and suddenly you got hit with a tax bill that you never expected. 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She wrote, "No one called 911, but someone called Ben Shapiro." Let me tell you, we had some interesting feedback. People said, "I bet it has something to do with Frank Turek and his FaceTiming." Who was he FaceTiming? Who was watching that live feed from the backseat? That's been, I think, the the number one guess that people had in the comments yesterday that it's going to be Frank Turek and that live stream, which never made sense. It The story is just so stupid on its face that he was FaceTiming his like grown 35-year-old sons in the middle of the day at 12:23 because they just love Charlie Kirk so much. They want to hear him in basically something that's structured that an amphitheater. They can't hear anything. Ah, >> [screaming] >> screaming. They just couldn't like get tickets to an event or go to something like SAS. It was It was just a UVU event. And they were like, "Please, daddy, please, we just love him. We just Please, we want to hear him answer questions." You're grown man, and this is what you're doing? You grown men, they're I just FaceTimed They just love watching Charlie. This is what The whole story is stupid. Okay, it doesn't doesn't pass the sniff test on its face. Like, why? Go be an adult. Adults don't do that. It was like a Taylor Swift Oh, yeah, Taylor Swift Maybe a Taylor Swift fan who's 13 years old would do that. 100% they would do that. I'll watch her through I love her so much. I'll watch her through FaceTime on your phone from the audience. Not grown military men. Something's not right about Frank Turek's story as well, and he's changed it. He keeps getting caught and then he Oh, I misspoke. I This is I didn't mean that and Oh, people are taking my stuff out of context. I said I was the on the FaceTime call forever and now I say I'm not. It's me versus me. Frank Turek is messy. He is messy, and so I do wonder while he was live streaming and accidentally left it in the pocket, if that's like a limited hangout, he's telling us a little bit there. Somebody was on the phone on live stream. Maybe more than one person. That feed was going somewhere. He was in that car, and he wasn't just praying. Maybe. It's all going to come out. I do believe that. Um Moses also had a top comment. He wrote, uh "Wife, honey, there's an intruder in the house. I'm scared." Husband, "Call Ben Shapiro." Just for live updates. Just for live updates to his security team that's I don't happens to be former IDF people or I don't know if you ever really leave the IDF and Mossad. Um we'll see about that. Anyway, uh comments from today's episode. Let me scroll down. Ali writes, "No matter the outcome of the trial, it doesn't change a thing when it comes to the shameless lies by Eric and Turning Point USA. They portrayed his legacy as Zionist, lied about the Iran war views, abandoned Massie and Tyler Robinson being found guilty does not change these facts." Look, I I think what I have shared with you is Erica also suffered from amnesia when it came to remembering how she knew Tyler Boyer. And they seem to have a lot of connections to Eastern Europe, the two of them. Arizona, Romania, and now Chicago. Yeah, this this feels like Erica was sent to fall in love with Charlie Kirk. I've said that, I've shared that. And I find it interesting that we still can't get answers. I attachment I had already began pulling up the threads of Erica hanging out at this modeling firm where Epstein was hanging out. Jean-Luc Brunel was the founder of it and I had wondered about Erica's connections, potential connections to Epstein world. Mhm. Now we have what? Further connections? Did it Did it just get rebuilt around Charlie Kirk? Um part of Epstein's network, a great place. What is it What are they constantly launder money, right? Traffic people, humans into organizations. I mean, the picture of what Turning Point became in my view is very bleak and I think it was intentional. Like I said to you, I said it from the beginning, they intentionally pulled the entire apart because I was the only person that Charlie hired organically with Tyler not being present on the spot. And then I feel there were handlers after the Kanye moment and I told you Erica was playing both sides of that as well and I have proof of that. And I'm still trying to get the person who presented that proof to allow me to share it publicly, but it is literally Erica um saying that she's got people inside the Kanye thing and Charlie and I had no idea. This is at the beginning of their relationship. He wasn't even officially dating her when that Kanye stuff happened. So, there were external forces um that were at play there. Seven Sheets writes, "It has been a huge mask off time for the people who attack you. Bravery, integrity, faith, and an insatiable quest for truth set you apart. You'd think his other friends would welcome this. We appreciate and support you in faith and prayers. Thank you so much. Um Ranin writes, "Listening to my 12-year-old while hearing Blake on an X space that she put her head in her hands and said, 'What makes it worse is that they're not even good at lying.'" She's right. That is the frustrating part. They're not good at it. I don't know. I blacked out. I don't remember. I don't know who was in the car. Continue to pray for you, your family, and your mission for truth. St. Michael, pray for us. Christ is king. Indeed. Tony Hill writes, "Hi Candace, what do you do on a daily basis is more than investigating Charlie's murder. You're opening the world's eyes to the corruption that has plagued us for decades. I don't know if Melania is still your best friend, but you are mine. LOL. Much love." I think I think it does bring me comfort to know that Charlie knew his death would be tied to this, sort of a global awakening, and it is deep, and it is connected, and [snorts] it is disturbing that they have thought through, in my view, using faith. Like, okay, it'll be untouchable as long as we give it a a spin, a a biblical spin on what we're doing. Like, the most corrupt, despicable pastors ever lecturing us uh and telling us that we have to get in line with corruption and filth and rot and perversion um with um sexual deviants. Bunch of gay men working at a company um all sleeping with one another. This is the turning point. No, it's not, actually. It's actually not. How's that feel? You're you're completely out of control. Nobody believes you because there's nothing to believe. There's no truth in anything that you guys speak ever. And even a 12-year-old can see that. Sam it writes, "There is no freedom without truth." I completely agree. And this user writes, "I had hoped that you were going to do competing Super Bowl halftime broadcast, but anyway, we can ask you to broadcast at 9:00 p.m. on Thursday. That is the time slot for Trump's address to the nation. Maybe we do we will do a lot. I just can't stand to hear him speak, to be honest with you. Um I just can't. I mean, there I told you after Tucker Carlson's assassination and the lack of words he shared, the lack of demands for an investigation. He's had nicer things to say about Lindsey Graham, more to say about Lindsey Graham, I suppose, than about Charlie Kirk, who got him elected. I just I'm not interested. I'm going to force my producers to watch it and tell me about it. Sorry, guys. I'm really sorry. Skyler's having a really rough week. We're making him do all sorts of things. He was just burning a t-shirt. Can you imagine working here? It's completely insane. It's completely crazy. Anyway, you guys, if you would like to support us, obviously, the easiest way to do that is merch on the website. You can buy a t-shirt, you can buy a hat. That is the easiest way to support our show and the tons of research that we are doing with a very small team. Head to candaceowens.com, buy a Stand Us cup, buy a Battle Bun mug. And also, you can join the book club. You let you guys know, we have a long book club this Friday, which I'm really excited about as we dive into it. And by the way, thank you guys so much for being patient prior to my vacation, which I much needed. I I just feel so refreshed right now and just ready. Just totally ready to lock horns with these people. And I think we're winning. So, there's that. We will see you guys What I say? Tomorrow we'll have that Ben Shapiro stuff, which is fascinating. We're just vetting that. And then, I also have a most unusual story to share with you about what took place on that day that was brought up in the courtroom and more people should be speaking about. >> [music] >> Mhm.