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CP calls: STEVE on line
CP: Package is there
STEVE: We'll send someone out.
CP: Ok
Contact terminated
STEVE calls:
Says they've got the materials. DAVID is very
upbeat, has a good attitude. "It looks better
than it has in a long time."
DAVID is talking about the prophecy, "new
moon" something's happening.
"I can see momentum, I've got something to
work with, it helps. Last night I felt like I
had no tools." He had a smile on his face.
DAVID is saying that the message is coming to
him, just give us a little time.
STEVE: Give us a little time to look through
these things... "It's starting to make some
moves now."
Talk to you later
Contact terminated.
STEVE calls: DAVID has a request, play a new
tape, they've heard KATHY's
Contact terminated
STEVE calls
DAVID on line:
There's alot of misunderstanding based on the
articles...!
Simply, here's what we're about: "There are
things unseen that are realities"
...opening of the seals is the last event,
it's a test...
"I know our views seem abstract or strange" "I
know men have lost their lives," but we have
been reconciling ourselves to God we have been
preparing since '85 for, not you guys...
we're in the process now, these individuals
are coming out, they need to understand...
sermonizes! There are people here more afraid
of God than you guys
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We're satisfied with the system, we'll go thru
your system, but there will always be a higher
court...
Only the lamb can reveal the 7 seals.
"Amongst our ranks, there are those who need
to know where they stand...
"I need to go over the covenants with them.
It could be as early as tomorrow evening the
Sabbath! some people will come out. That's a
promise, a guarantee."
DAVID: I hope you'll respect our Sabbath...
BRAD and KEVIN have made some
mistakes... doesn't finish!
"I am a Cult Leader" "so was Moses..."!
"I'm ready to enter into my final phase"
whatever that is. I've worked since 1985 to
build...Christ failed didn't he?
If people within our ranks fail, then they
need to face whatever retribution awaits them
...sermonizing...
"If I've done wrong, you need to give me the
whole 9 yards," but if I'm the one you better
watch it..
The guitar nebula "I knew it was coming"
...sermonizing...
DAVID:
...still going...
"Nobody tipped us off" we have been expecting
the tanks
[implying
You can't
things...
My people
been toldto roll up before the raid!
that God told him]
judge a person by the appearance of
are weak they're asking what have I
to wait for? Thank you for givingus this time to unwind, for being lenient.
CP: How about sending someone out at 4:00
today? Someone who didn't learn? referring
to something DAVID had said while sermonizing!
DAVID: Well, it's not that they didn't learn,
but... "Idon't mean to preach"...starts
preaching...
GP: Guitar nebula article astounded me...
DAVID: Well, there's more to it...preaches...
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Who would want to face the Federal government?
They'd have to either be crazy or something
else. Well, the message was given to me
instantly, a full understanding...
There's going to be some weapons used on
mankind that we can't even conceive of.
There's no rason for that to happen, I may be
crazy, but someone has to listen to me. or
else what happened to NOAH will happen to
you!...
DAVID: The events here have been bizarre,
cultic, but I haven't been raving, "give me a
helicopter!"
DAVID: If you start controlling the minds of
men, you've got them in the palm of your hand.
Like the ancient Romans... -
DAVID: I just want to do the will of my
father, but I want to get out of here.
"Can the people bring out their Bibles?
CP: Of course
DAVID: For sure 1 or 2 today
Realistically, I'll call you after worship,
CP: Give me a rough idea I
DAVID: Could be a week, I don't know, it
depends on the people...sermonizes
...still going...
CP: People are out here making money,
movies...
DAVID: Yeah, even my mother, she takes
$75,000 as blood money for things she doesn't
even know...
"When they give me lethal injection, give me
the cheap stuff huh?"
I'll call you after the Daily.
Contact terminated
STEVE on line:
could you dispense with the tapes until
tomorrow? we're seriously working on gettingout and the tapes are disruptive. until
after the Sabbath!
Contact terminated
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STEVE on line:
"Have you stopped the tape yet?
CP: Momentarily
STEVE: Ok
Contact terminated
STEVE on line:
CP: Advises that there's 2 guys outside of
the Compound.
STEVE: Is there a problem? DAVID says that
relax a bit...
I'll check on it
Contact terminated
STEVE on line:
CP: Ask the gentleman to go back inside
STEVE: We're trying to find out who it is.
CP: He had 4 clear rain jacket and he's white
STEVE: Oh, ok. I'll go check, hold on...
KEVIN on line:
Reaffirming some scriptures before we come out
BRAD on line:
Can I bring out some unleavened bread?
CP: we'll check
BRAD: We want to get along with you as best
I've can.
BRAD: We'll be out shortly. Me, KEVIN, and
RITA.
RITA on line:
CP:
Any questions?
RITA: Not really
CP: You can bring your Bible
RITA: Ok, we're just here reading the Bible.
CP: Ok, have STEVE call me back.
RITA: Ok.
Contact terminated.
STEVE calls:
DAVID says have a little faith, relax, they're
not doing anything. They won't go past acertain point. Tell those guys tq rg1;x,
we're at a good point right now.
CP: Tell them to stay in
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Contact terminated
STEVE on line:
They'll be coming out just before sundown
tomorrow
CP: Well, KEVIN said tonight
STEVE: Well, they're going through the Book
of Micah right now and...
KEVIN: I need to get thru the Book of Micah
so I'll come out tomorrow ok?
CP: Well, we've already made arrangements.
Can I speak to DAVID?
DAVID: They have to know this because they're
going to be on their own.
CP: We've made arrangements this would put me
in a bad position
DAVID: They've got to know this stuff. They
have to be assured that the providence of God
will be there for them. They'd rather die
DAVID: I don't want to mess this up, but they
need to know this.
CP: How about later this evening.
DAVID: Look, I'm not going against God, I'd
rather die.
CP: How about before sunset?
DAVID: I'll see what I can do.
Contact terminated.
CP calls: KEVIN answers, got to get through
to MICA. Gets excited when he finds out he'll
be with OLLIE.
STEVE initiated call: relaying for DAVID.
wants to know if he can do bible study by
phone in the morning with KEVIN/BRAD if they
come out tonight.
KEVIN on line: Wants to know it JOHN DOLAN
will meet him tonight. KEVIN wants to know if
he can shower when he gets out.
KEVIN: states he and BRAD will be coming out
in a few minutes. Worries about shower and
shave. Coming out 7:15 p.m. STEVE to call
when ready.
Phone call disconnected.
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CP JOHN DOLAN! calls compound. RACHEL KORESH
on line.
DAVID KORESH on line: States KEVIN/BRAD
eating but coming out in a few minutes. Will
only be carrying emblems/yukres ?!.
DAVID: Thinks Dr. ARNOLD was with us during
taping. JOHN DOLAN clarified, recorded by
phone.
DAVID: Talking about bible.
DAVID: Talking about revealing portions of
the bible and difficulty some theologians have
with it.
CP: Asks DAVID if KEVIN/BRAD ready yet.
DAVID checks with STEVE. ~
STEVE on line.
CP: Advises all they need to do is walk down
road. STEVE: States they're ready and will be
out the door in two minutes.
All parties acknowledged and phone
disconnected.
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STEVE SCHNEIDER calls. Stating guys age gg;and sounds like HRT roughing them up.
CP: Assures them they are not being treated
badly.
STEVE on line
DAVID in background advising.
STEVE: Asks CP if he wants bible study.
Laughs!
STEVE: Talks about guitar shaped star in
galaxy.
DAVID on line: States he told CP JOHN DOLAN!
he would stay away from scripture and talk
about lighter things.
DAVID: Asks CP JOHN COX! if he thinks God
sinned.
DAVID: Talks about he wishes media would
public how many $100,000's of dollars he has
turned down over the years.
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DAVID: Gets into scripture.
DAVID: States there is a shortcut to the key
to all knowledge.
DAVID: Talks about music with CP JOHN!
DAVID: States swelling in JUDY's finger gone
down. Everybody's wounds betting better.
CP: Asks it PAUL FATTA, JR. would like to get
out message to his dad.
DAVID: States he'll let him know. Doesn't
know where the dad might be.
DAVID: States PAUL FATTA, JR. is inside.
Talking about Louisiana and alligators.
DAVID: Talks about surrender procedures used
and how it's unnecessary to shackle women like
KATHY was.
DAVID: Talks about HRT agitation techniques.
DAVID: Talks about scriptures
DAVID: Talks about Matthew 24.
DAVID: States he still gets up and moves
around from time to time.
DAVID: States he is coming out but needs to
reassure the people inside tirst. States we
are up for murder charges and a lot of people
still scared.
DAVID: states he went to doorway when ATP
approached and stood in the doorway. ATF came
running out of trailers and yelling in unison.
Put his hand up and said, "Wait, get back.
There are women and children in here and we
need to talk about this." Stated ATF began to
tire at him and he slammed door. At about
that time, PERRY JONES walked up and got hit
by bullets coming through walls.
DAVID: Talks about ROBERT GONZALES and
knowing he was ATP.
DAVID: states on 2/28/93 morning, his fatherlet him know what was about to happen.
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DAVID: States he told ROBERT GONZALES he knew
they were coming and asked him to call it off.
CP JOHN COX!: Talks to DAVID about RITA
RIDDLE coming out.
DAVID: Puts RITA RIDDLE on phone.
RITA: States she is physically o.k. but
mentally stressed.
RACHEL KORESH on line. States she didn't know
DAVID KORESH had been talking to CP JOHN COX!
because she didn't think CP JOHN COX! could
listen that long.
RACHEL: Stated we were going to be nice until
the last ones come out and we'll be mean to
them. JOHN COX! denies that.
CP: Tells RACHEL about procedures after
surrender.
RACHEL: Talks about her little girl.
RACHEL: Talks about children needing more
milk.
DAVID on line: Talking about their judicial
system. DAVID mediates to minds of men
teachings of the bible.
DAVID: Talks about Zachariah 14.
DAVID: continues with scripture...
Still talking about scripture...
DAVID: Stated God has spoken to him and they
are preparing to do what he said.
DAVID: Acknowledges BRAD and KEVIN violated
trust. alcohol, drugs, etc.! "Liquid
courage"
DAVID: states people who have out have
failed. Not KATHY, MARGERITTE, CATHERINE!
DAVID: States he doesn't think there is a
SANDRA HARDIAL is in there.
DAVID: will check on SANDRA HARDIAL.
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20, 1993DAVID: Mentions the phrase "I'm going home."
CP JOHN!: Questions him about it.
DAVID: Advises CP JOHN! is jumping to
conclusions and he didn't mean suicide.
CP: Asks DAVID if we're firm about RITA
coming.
DAVID: States 99% sure and only doubt might
be in RITA's mind.
DAVID: States it won't be much longer. He
doesn't plan to be there another month.
DAVID: States it will happen in the next few
days, but don't pressure me. Be patient!
DAVID: Wants to know what they've been
eating. -
Talks about Whataburger in Bellmeade. "If I
turn out to be the messiah, the world would
know about Whataburger."
DAVID: States 3/4 gallon milk left.
DAVID: States SHERRY JEWEL is at the door.
DAVID: States they are going to make some
decisions tomorrow.
DAVID: Stated possibly large number of people
tomorrow or soon after.
DAVID: Advises RACHEL to go get SCOTT for a
message.
DAVID: States wound leaking.
DAVID: RACHEL can't find SCOTT...will keep
trying. States tomorrow is the time he will
try to help everybody.
Call terminated.
JOHN DOLAN calls: STEVE answers, JOHN tells
STEVE that KEVIN went to hospital, for
varicose veins. DAVID is still bedridden.
DAVID says lets wait and see what develops.
No loudspeakers on Sabbath JOHN advises!
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STEVE advises that DAVID will probably wait a
while, needs to get rest. re contact with
BRAD at jail! STEVE will call back.
End of call
CP called Compound, STEVE comes on line, DAVID
is still out i.e. - asleep! STEVE requested
info about coming out clothes, bond, jail,
attorneys! STEVE asked procedure if all the
people coming out together.
STEVE asked JOHN DOLAN if he would meet him
when STEVE comes out.
Everyone is thinking about coming out
DAVID is considering everybody or a bunch of
people coming out - day, a few days or a week
RITA and possible others may come out
STEVE continues discussing process of coming
out attorneys, etc.
Call ends.
CP calls: RACHEL on: chit-chat while STEVE
goes to get DAVID!
CP: Generally explains release procedures...
[on hold]
STEVE: Can I call you in 5 minutes?
CP: Ok.
Contact terminated
STEVE calls:
I forgot about the sabbath so it's a bad time
now, but we're talking to a couple of other
people who might want to come out.
Contact terminated
STEVE calls: We'd like to talk to BRAD and
KEVIN.
CP: Ok, we'll call when it's set up
STEVE: Ok
Contact terminated
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JOHN COX initiated call.
STEVE SCHNEIDER on line.
DAVID KORESH on line.
Technical problems with phone patch.
Disconnected. JOHN COX to call DAVID back
when fixed.
JOHN COX initiated call.
STEVE S. on
DAVID K. on
Phone patch
DICK WRENN,
patch.line.
line.
completed.
KEVIN and BRAD on conference phone
DAVID talking to KEVIN and BRAD.
DAVID discussing scripture with KEVIN and
BRAD.
JOHN COX asks DAVID how much longer.
DAVID states 1/2 hour.
DICK WRENN on speaker phone asking DAVID to
cut short.
DAVID requests a few more minutes and starts
again.
DAVID concluded scripture to KEVIN and BRAD.
JOHN COX on line.
DAVID states RITA still afraid spiritually.
JOHN COX offers to help reassure. She can
keep Bible.
DAVID off line.
RACHEL KORESH on line. Talks about
Whataburger
STEVE SCHNEIDER on line.
JOHN COX relays message from STEVE's sister.
Advises sister will be there when he comes
out.
STEVE to call JOHN COX back when ready to send
someone out. Phone disconnected.
JOHN initiated call.
STEVE on line. STEVE will call back.
Phone call terminated.
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STEVE calls CP. Wants to know id HERBERT LEON
from Britain has called.
STEVE states VICTORIAN HOLLINGSWORTH is mother
of HERBERT LEON and she is inside. Wants to
get a message to him. STEVE states his phone
number is O11-44-071/263-6973 London!.
STEVE states he'll try to get VICKIE
HOLLINGSWORTH out with RITA.
JOHN COX advises STEVE he can get ambulance
Bradley up to help her out.
STEVE talking to DAVID.
COX proposes others bringing RITA and VICKIE
out.
STEVE states they'll see what they can do and
will call us back in 15 minutes. Phone call
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STEVE calls back. States HOLLINGSWORTH is
still worried.
JOHN COX discusses several bringing VICKIE and
RITA out.
STEVE states he and DAVID will work on
HOLLINGSWORTH hard and call back just as soon
as possible.
Phone call terminated.
JOHN calls in.
STEVE S. on line.
STEVE states they are about ready.
STEVE stated it is a matter of moments. He
will call right back. Phone contact
terminated.
JOHN COX called into compound.
STEVE on line. VICKIE ready. Trying to talk
nurses into going.
STEVE stated RITA still undecided. wants to
wait until morning.
JOHN COX advised STEVE we need 15 minutes
notice.
Possible ZILLA HENRY. JOHN suggests ZILLA's
kids also.
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DAVID on phone. Asks JOHN COX to send in bug
so we could hear problems he is having.
DAVID suggested sending BRADLEY up now.
Telling others to get ready.
DAVID stated ANNETTA RICHARDS may be the nurse
that comes out. She wants to contact
son/nephews. VIVIAN WILSON.
DAVID stated VICKIE
medicine and Bibles
ANNETTA is 63 years
JOHN COX advises he
BRADLEY in place.
Call terminated.
JOHN initiated call
STEVE on line.will be bringing her
out.
old.
will call DAVID when
JOHN advised Bradley in position.
STEVE said changing
out.clothes and then will come
STEVE said VICKIE wanted to die inside but
DAVID told her that was not their purpose.
STEVE said their about ready will call back.
Phone disconnected.
STEVE called CP. Stated they have decided not
to come out. STEVE stated "just kidding".
Stated they are dressed and ready. Getting a
drink and will come out.
STEVE helping them out the door.
DAVID K. on line. Talks to JOHN about
difficulty in getting them out.
DAVID talks about his experience in county
jail in 1988.
DAVID talks about Judge falling asleep in
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DAVID talking about children.
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DAVID
wouldstates if he came out now nobody else
come out after he left.
DAVID discusses scriptures.
JOHN advised DAVID that VICKIE had been taken
to Hillsboro Hospital.
DAVID discusses the seven seals.
DAVID states PETER GENT was buried to make a
point. ATP promised to take out our dead and
give us medical care and they did not. They
only took their dead and wounded and did not
fulfill their promise to us.
DAVID stated JIM asked about dead and wounded
JIM/ATF did not fulfill their promise.
DAVID talking and phone disconnected.
JOHN re-dialed.
STEVE on line. Stated stepped on cord and
disconnected.
DAVID back on line.
JOHN asks if he will help JOHN COX and JOHN
DOLAN by coming out tomorrow.
DAVID states he will help his people by
preparing them to come out.
DAVID discusses scripture.
DAVID stated "When I told you God said wait,
actually I asked for it."
DAVID stated he did this because he didn't
want God to destroy us.
Continues Bible study.
JOHN asked DAVID what his expectation of us
was when decided to wait.
DAVID stated 1! Listen, 2! Give us a little
time, 3! We're working it out, and 4! Expect
you to deal with me as you would want me to
deal with you.
DAVID continues addressing scripture.
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DAVID stated if bosses wan
funeral then come on in.
DAVID calms and exchanges
with JOHN. Likes JOHN.
STEVE on line. STEVE statt to come to his
friendly dialogue
es all of positive
things are a result of JOHN DOLAN and JOHN
COX.
RITA RIDDLE on the line.
Phone contact terminated.
CP calls
OP terminates call - no an
CP calls
GRAHAM answers, says thereFeeling better.
swer
's a problem with
the phones. He couldn't hear ringing! STEVE
is giving a study, hold on
STEVE on line:
The phones are both dead,
through. We're working on
number of people who I was
to you. Is this JOHN III?
CP: Yes
Oh, I was going to talk to
things I was going to pass
CP: Well, he's unavailabl
Phone problems
STEVE: Everything's fine
rapport! and we're working
CP: who are they?
STEVE: Hold on.
STEVE: GLADYS OTTMAN Can
U.S.!
STEVE: Are there messages
CP: Yes1'11 get s'.r2v1-:.
I'm amazed you got
it. I've got a
going to have talk
JOHN II, I had some
on to him...
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now as tar as
on it.
ada!, RITA RIDDLE,
for anyone?
Is JOHN DOLAN available today?
CP: No.
JOHN you come across extremely pushy, I'm with
you, believe me, but you're not helping either
of us.
CP: Well, we'll work it o ut together.
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STEVE: How's VICKI?
CP: We'll check
STEVE: RITA 5! and GLADYS 7! are in good
health
CP: Do they have cars?
STEVE: RITA has a red Prelude on south side.
CP: Passes on messages from relatives
CP/STEVE discuss logistics
STEVE: I'll call you right back when we get
set up.
STEVE calls:
"It looks like the cars are inoperable so
they'll have to walk.
They're ready to come out
Switching phones STEVE will call from WAYNE's
line! u
Contact terminated
STEVE on line:
The 2 women are ready to come out the door
...logistics...
Contact terminated
STEVE calls:
What's happening? They're ready
...logistics...
Contact.terminated
Per HRT: 2 women have exited the compound.
* 2 women in Bradley per HRT!
STEVE on line:
CP: They're out, all smooth.
STEVE: DAVID: talking to individuals, he
needs to open up a few things from the Bible!
so we'll call back...
STEVE: Can we request that female Agents
search all female releasee's from now on?
STEVE: We'll keep working and call you back.
Contact terminated
STEVE: Some out: turn down speakers?
CP: How many?
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OPHILIA SANTOYO 50's, JAMES LAUTER 60's, SHILA
MARTIN ?! 4O'S
CP: How many more today?
STEVE: I can't say. They want Bible
questions answered before they come.
STEVE: As soon as I know I'll call back...
The speakers are interferring with DAVID Bible
study it will take longer ...back and forth
re: speakers '
Contact terminated
CP calls:
STEVE on line: 3 more ready
JAMES LAWTON 70, CELIA SANTOYO 62, SHEILA
MARTIN 46 _
STEVE says:_ DAVID told him of guitar nebula
before ever hearing it on the radio
STEVE: loudspeakers discussed
STEVE will call when they're ready to go out
the door.
Contact terminated
STEVE calls: They're ready SHEILA MARTIN has
a request. She would like to see her 3 kids
when she comes out.
CP: We'll do it.
STEVE: 0k, and can she call back
WAYNE?
CP: Ok.and talk to
STEVE: Concerned about the muddy road
CP/STEVE: Logistics
STEVE: Concerned about the women
down by male Agents.
CP: We'll work on it.being patted
- Contact terminated
CP calls, SHERRY answers
STEVE on line
CP: we've arranged for a female swat member
to pat down the women...
STEVE: Great, that's part of our belief
system...
CP/STEVE logistics
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Contact terminated
CP calls, RACHEL answers, "hold on"
RACHEL on line
"STEVE is out talking to people"
CP: Can you find nationalities?
RACHEL: They're all American.
CP: Ok, tell them to go ahead.
RACHEL: Ok.
Contact terminated
Per HRT 3 members walking out of compound.
HRT: All 3 in custody, confirmed U.S.
citizens..
CP: Attempts call female answers ask for
STEVE ~
STEVE on line: "All ok." Is SHEILA with
kids? I'm talking to people DAVID passed out
1 hour ago.
CP: Any names?
STEVE: No. A large group. I'll try my best.
I'll keep working. The phones are free. They
can call anytime.
CP: Will call when patch ready.
Contact terminated
Attempt 3 way call. CP ask for STEVE. STEVE
busy; call back
CP: Ask for WAYNE
WAYNE on his way, hold on.
WAYNE on line. DICK on line. SHEILA on line.
Kids on line with WAYNE...
SHEILA on line with WAYNE.
WM: "Keep praying to God"
Are you going to see JAMIE?
No time to get him down.
Concerned about right to privacy
S: Everything went well. Ride was bumpy
W: "It could be bumpy later too"
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with 7 seals stuff...
DICK on line explains process says goodby
SHEILA: To WAYNE take care I love you!
WAYNE: Bye.
Contact terminated
On line ask for STEVE
STEVE is out talking to people. He'll talk to
you later.
CP: We'll call back in 10 minutes.
Contact terminated
STEVE calls
CP: How many can we expect
S: Talking to 40 approximately, I can't tell
you I'm talking to them and answering
questions. Bible questions
CP: We're getting heat here
S: You can't force conscious
S: 3 weeks ago when our lives were disrupted
we were still teaching the seal even to ROBERT
GONZALES.
CP: We were promised a big groupd
S: They want to talk to DR 1st, I'm doing the
best I can.
Have to wait for DAVID to wake up.
STEVE: DK made a mistake coming down talking.
Began bleeding and wore himself out. Probably
won't be a release today.
CP: Bosses! we need a big group.
S: Some people here for 30 years. Have faith
in 11 negotiators.
S: will ATE be involved in search?
CP: Yes.
S: That bothers me!
CP: Bosses want more.
S: Don't push
CP: Got to give us something to work with.
S: ...wants to talk to JOHN DOLAN. I'm going
to go talk to more people.
It's picked up. 2/3 been out already if not
tor Friday.
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I don't have any authority to move these
people. DAVID is passed out... These people
came to listen to him.
"I want alot of things too."
CP: 5 or 6 a day is not exceptable
S: What does that mean: they "bosses"
shouldn't expect anything nothing has changed
CP: DAVID says it would be over in a few days
S: I'll go back to work.
S: Coming to the phone was not to your
advantage.
I've been able to talk to about 1/2 of them
I'll keep trying
Contact terminated
CP calls for STEVE, BYRON and JOHN III
STEVE wants a message left
BYRON wants to talk to DAVID
Female NICHOLE! couldn't wake DAVID.
BS: Find STEVE it's important
NIC: STEVE doesn't want to be interrupted.
I'll try DAVID again
NIC: I tried, he's not responding. Call back
1/2 hour or hour when STEVE finished.
BS: when will DAVID be up?
NIC: Wounded and hasn't slept.
BS: How many out tonight?
MC: I don't know.
BS: Tell STEVE, BYRON SAGE called, it's
important I talk to DAVID.
Contact terminated.
Terminate call.
. Compound STEVE! initiates a call to C.P.
STEVE: You call for me?
JOHN: "What's going on?"
STEVE: "People want to talk to DAVID, but
he's sleeping."
STEVE: Wonder how things are going now.
JOHN: Under a lot of pressure: BYRON
wanted to let him DAVID! know.
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contJOHN: Names? coming out!.
STEVE: 30 - 40. You have most names.
JOHN: Any idea anyone else coming out
tonight?
STEVE: I don't know. I don't know if he
DAVID! worked anything out.
JOHN: STEVE, understand their gonna start
"moving" some vehicles on side of building.
Not offensive, "just moving them out."
STEVE: Acknowledged this. He'll keep on
working.
Terminate phone call.
Tape #151 out Tape #152 in.
C.P. initiates contact. "
Female voice...SHERRY.
JOHN COX gives SHERRY message from her mother.
SHERRY wants to know when JOHN came on.
SHERRY knows her mother is here by the phone
ileft.
JOHN gets RUTH MOSIER as Sherry's mother's
name.
SHERRY: Have mother read Mark 13, Luke 21.
SHERRY is glad JOHN's back on. SHERRY one of
these days we'll meet. SHERRY calling for
STEVE.
STEVE: "Pleasure to hear your voice." STEVE
talks about late night last night. COX
compliments
STEVE on good day.
STEVE: "Not according to your command."
JOHN reassures STEVE.
STEVE: "I had as many as 30-40 sitting down."
talks about his efforts today.
JOHN relays messages to STEVE. Overhear STEVE
getting flashlight to write messages. GENE
BORST, SANDRA HARDIAL, HIKE MALCOLM, MELISSA
MORRISON, DAVID THIBIDEAU, HARGARITA VEGA,
SCOTT SENOBE, JEFF LITTLE have messages.
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JOHN reminds STEVE of messages he and JUDY had
last night. SHIRLEY PUTTERMAN, JUDY's mom had
a message. An EARL PETERSON called for STEVE.
STEVE asks for a number for STIDKO ref.
message he had. STEVE said things were going
good till DAVID fell asleep.
STEVE says he was surprised about reaction ref
to command and 5 people coming out.
STEVE says he hoped DAVID would get into
physics
and Astrology when he talked to COX last
night.
STEVE thinks they'll be some more tomorrow.
JOHN says we'll let you all get a good nights
sleep.
STEVE again says what a pleasure to hear COX,
says others employ different tactics.
JOHN says if STEVE needs anything, just call.
STEVE credits COX with getting these people
out.
Contact terminated.
JUDY contacts C.P. Wants to know message.
KERMIT and WAYNE PETERSON and EARL PETERSON,
and message from SHIRLEY.
JUDY says she's doing OK.
JUDY: Message to mom and brother.
Dear Mom and WAYNE and family. Thanks for
calling.
Please remember what they did to Christ 2,000
years ago. I will be detained for a while, so
I trust that you will take car of Mayanah for
me till this is over. She's adorable and you
will love her - just don't spoil her too much.
You'll be seeing
DAVID's and our side of the story "the truth"
soon.
Trust in God. Study the Bible. Don't worry.
I love you forever. JUDY.
Dear Dad Thanks for calling. Remember what
they did to Christ 2,000 years ago. You will
be seeing DAVID's and our side...Don't worry.
Trust in God.
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contJUDY asks JOHN if he can hear the loud
speakers.
Continue message.
You'll be seeing your granddaughter soon,
poopykins #2. I love you. Judy.
JOHN repeats messages back to JUDY that she is
sending out.
JOHN confirms phone numbers. JUDY says she is
waiting to get this all worked out. JUDY says
BYRON was getting pretty obnoxious and
aggressive
at the end over the loud speakers. JOHN tells
JUDY about lady released.
ROSE, MELISSA's mother, sounds British. JOHN
gives message from British Consulate from
MELISSA's grandmother. ROSE says to tell them
MELISSA will see them soon. She's fine. Not
to worry, it's written in the book. ROSE says
there is no concern for her in that message.
ROSE says she's never talked to JOHN before.
ROSE says she has talked to somebody else.
JOHN assures her she is free to leave. We
care about her health and we will treat her
right if she leaves. We will make contact
with British Consulate. ROSE gives phone to
SANDRA HARDEAL.
JOHN gives message from brother.
SANDRA's message.
Say I'm thinking of them. Tell my mom to keep
fighting the weaknesses in her body. I'm
thinking of my father, brother, and Aunt
JOYCE. Lots of love.
JOHN asks about any medical conditions -
"none."
Contact stopped with SANDRA.
STEVE calls: DAVID comes on line.
Requests that loud speakers be turned off so
they can conduct bible study sessions. Wants
JOHN DOLAN and JOHN COX to conduct
negotiations. Bible study to be conducted so
more members can leave compound 3/22/93.