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Forms to be Filled out for Each Interview FOLKLORE
NEW YORK
FORM A
Circumstances of Interview
STATE New York
NANE OF WORKER Terry Roth Sam &thwarts
ADDRESS 47 IL 69th Street
DATE March 4, 1939
SUBJECT THE KNOWLEDGE CIRCLE
I. Date and tim of ,_nterview April 3, 1939
2. Place of interview
Furriers Union
250 W. 26th Street
New York City
3. Name and address of informant Mrs. Sarah Cohen
152 W. 13th Street
4. Name and address of person, if any, who put you in
touch with informant. Miss Spiro, Educational Director
5. Name and address of person, if any, accompanyinL you
Sam Schwartz
6. Description of room, house, surroundings, etc.
(Use as many additional sheets as necessary, for any of the forms, each
bearing the proper heading and the number to which the material refers.)
FORM C
Text of Interview (Unedited)
STATE New York
NAME OF. '..TORKER Terry Roth
ADDRESS 47 A% 49th Street
DATE March 4, 1939
SUBJECT THE KNOWLEDGE CIRCLE
THE KNOWLEDGE CIRCLE
FOLKLORE
NEVT YORK
Sam Schwartz
152 W. 13th Street
It's very interesting. When we were on strike, they're
having a special roam where they keep the new young members, they
shouldn't go to the scab. They can have a little bit education?
I was there with the chess and there were a couple of boys and
they learned in that time haw to play chess. So two boys, one
colored and one white, I explained to them that if you have an
idea about chess, is just exactly the life of a person. Plus
and Minus. And right away they learn what is a united front
because in the game is a united front from figures.. So I ex-
plained than. I said. "Remember what a fight the union was having
with the divided members? Now we are united and we will win. The
same in chess. These two figures will win out abs because they
are united.
I call all this my knowledge circle. What is that knowledge
circle? I saw many times as I told you. I may be in a house in a
corner but not far from them. In my mind, with all my feelings, I
participate in the conversation. But they wouldn't know. Maybe
the last year they start to understand me. A worker with education
speaks to a worker without education the intelligent worker
eats up his heart with English Imperialist. With China and Japan.
Shaw them a map! A person may be eighty years old, but when he was
never in the school, he is exactly like a baby, like a child. Speak
to him like a baby in the schools. Tell him. "We have five con-
tinents.
ive have five fingers on the continents." He must under-
stand when you'll show him. They promised me already to give me
mpas all over the union walls. He has to knaw that there is Japan.
And explain to him why he has to protect himself on the Pqcific
more than the Atlantic. Shaw him a map! He MUST learn.