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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OFFICIAL RECORD
Date of entry OR/II/2020
), date of birth (DOB) was
interviewed via video conference with her attorneys and
Also present via video was Assistant United States Attorneys
and , and Special Agent
After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and
the nature of the interview, provided the following information:
moved from when she was
approximately 11 years old. did not go to high school because she
made "so much money" in middle school going to JEFFREY EPSTEIN's (EPSTEIN)
residence. At the time, was living with her mother. As of the
date of this interview, had been married for years and had
children.
son's father, , was friends
with met
girlfriend, , who asked if she
wanted to make money. Before went to EPSTEIN's residence,
and would hang out together and smoke pot. believed she
was 14 years old when she met
EPSTEIN asked to go overseas with him and she "slipped up";
told EPSTEIN she was 14 years old and would have to get permission
from her mother. was told to tell EPSTEIN she was 17 years old
going on 18. told to tell EPSTEIN she was 17.
was young and did not want to get anyone in trouble.
The first time went to EPSTEIN's residence, drove her
there. and went into the residence after GBISLAINE MAXWELL
(MAXWELL) answered the door. described the door that she entered
being through the first driveway and it was the side door to the kitchen.
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to takc upstairs and show her what to do.
up the stairs and through EPSTEIN's bedroom to his
bathroom. There was a closet that had the massage table in it.
showed the drawer where the lotions, toys, and "all kinds of
things" were held. After the massage, stayed in the room while
got dressed and went downstairs. received a phone call at
her house approximately a week later and was picked up from her house.
recalled MAXWELL introduce herself saying something like "My
name is MAXWELL...nice to meet you." told MAXWELL her name.
assumed EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were "together". described
there being a lot of pictures of MAXWELL naked. recalled seeing a
picture of MAXWELL pregnant. There were nude photographs in the room with
the massage table all over the walls. There were nude photographs up the
stairwell of MAXWELL and other people.
met EPSTEIN approximately over 100 times. went to
EPSTEIN's residence from approximately 14 to 17 years old. met
EPSTEIN's friends, one of which she had to give a massage to a man, and had
threesomes with females. When became pregnant
her pregnancy began to show and EPSTEIN asked her if she had
other girls to bring to him. After her
call to go to EPSTEIN's home if she was in dire need for money.
was approximately 17/18 years old and felt that she was too old.
EPSTEIN wanted to bring younger females. Over the
years, brought a couple friends to EPSTEIN. was born, would only
stated she was a "hot mess" during that time; she is currently
still battling demons over it.
saw different female models throughout EPSTEIN's home.
described there being approximately four to five rooms before
EPSTEIN's room and saw models in some of those rooms. was not
introduced to them; the models did not speak English well.
MAXWELL asked for personal number. believed she gave
her cell number but was not sure. also had a landline number at
the time. thought MAXWELL and EPSTEIN had both of her numbers.
MAXWELL and ) would call her on either number and ask
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for her. At the time, there was a lot going on with family and
no one questioned the calls. interacted with fairly early on
in seeing EPSTEIN. A couple weeks after going to EPSTEIN's home,
met thought was "pretty and very nice".
called , identifying herself, and asked to come over
for EPSTEIN. thought was EPSTEIN's secretary.
first interaction with was when called asking her
when she would be available.
recalled a time where she went to EPSTEIN's home, and
thought EPSTEIN was out jogging, so offered her something to drink.
described MAXWELL as "pretty nice". When would be at
EPSTEIN's home more than twice in a week, MAXWELL would seem agitated.
MAXWELL said something like, "Oh, hi , you're back again." MAXWELL
would then go to her office and close the door.
When was paid, sometimes the money was laid out on the table.
The money would sometimes be by the sink in the bathroom where the massages
took place. Towards the beginning of going, MAXWELL paid
approximately three to four times. MAXWELL paid $300 in
"very crisp" hundred dollar bills. did not give money.
recalled a time where she was given an envelope with concert
tickets in it, but it was given to her by people she had not met before.
The entirety of the time went to EPSTEIN's home, she saw MAXWELL
there about 80% of the time. MAXWELL would say hello to
remembered MAXWELL writing down name in a black address
book, which also had phone number in it to get a hold of
thought EPSTEIN and MAXWELL might have been a couple but she did
not know. MAXWELL asked her age, and first told her she
was 17 years old. MAXWELL asked questions to where
thought MAXWELL was testing her. MAXWELL asked about her
mother, sex life, and questions thought MAXWELL did not
have a right to know. was uncomfortable talking with MAXWELL.
had multiple conversations with MAXWELL. MAXWELL joked around with
MAXWELL talked about nude parties she would have.
EPSTEIN told that if thought she could get away to
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travel, he would get an ID for her to say that she was older. EPSTEIN was
persistent about going overseas. EPSTEIN told her she could get her license
to be a massage therapist. never travelled with EPSTEIN.
EPSTEIN sent gifts from New York. These gifts, that included
lingerie from Victoria's Secret, came from EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, and
received different gifts. A couple times, there was $100 in the
gift. received birthday cards that were signed by EPSTEIN or had
his name on it. burned the gifts she received after EPSTEIN told
her she was fat and getting too old.
EPSTEIN gave tickets to see INCUBUS. met two women on
the fairgrounds to get the tickets. There were text messages exchanged.
would be asked if she could be ready at a certain time.
Sometimes, she would be asked to wear a specific lingerie that EPSTEIN had
sent her.
felt they were forcing her to go out of the country.
was asked if MAXWELL was a part of those conversations and she replied,
"yes". There were approximately one to two times where EPSTEIN brought up
if mother would allow her to go if MAXWELL accompanied her.
thought she had a conversation about travel approximately three
times. There was no way mother would have let her travel. The
first time it was brought up, it was just and EPSTEIN.
was 14 years old with no passport or identification. EPSTEIN then brought
up MAXWELL going. At the time, mother had a drinking problem,
among other things.
and MAXWELL had a conversation about travel. MAXWELL told
that she could get identification to go.
recalled waiting for EPSTEIN to get back and it was just the two of them
having this conversation. told MAXWELL she was 15 years old and
there was no way her mother would let her go.
MAXWELL never asked what and EPSTEIN did together.
knew there were cameras in the clocks in the massage room. When asked how
she knew, replied, "I just knew it, like I knew the FBI was across
the street watching the house". clarified that she had a feeling
that there were cameras in the clock. MAXWELL was not present for the
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MAXWELL seemed to get agitated
recalled there being a time where she was involved in a sexual
encounter with EPSTEIN and another girl. MAXWELL told that someone
would be joining them. MAXWELL said something like, "Oh we have a special
guest and she is going to be joining you." EPSTEIN had sex with
while and the girl "were going down on each other".
recalled a different time where she was involved in a sexual
encounter with EPSTEIN and another girl. EPSTEIN was masturbating while the
girl was "going down on" and EPSTEIN had sex with the girl.
EPSTEIN tried to use a sex toy on and she was not willing to do
that.
her name.
photo of
involved
recalled recalled the girl introduced herself but she did not recall
[Agent note: At this point, attorney showed her a
and acknowledged this was the girl
in the sexual acts. ) said she knew she met
her having an accent. and
thought it was the same woman for both the encounters, but was
not sure about the second time. MAXWELL was not around when the second
sexual encounter happened.
recalled EPSTEIN returning for a run and the cook had made her a
fruit salad.
she minded if
and got in the sauna.
her. saw in passing and asked if
went and set everything up. EPSTEIN came upstairs
The girl, who had blonde hair, was there as well.
was going to receive $500 for photographs that were taken of
called asking if i
took nude photographs of . The
EPSTEIN had been on a trip and
them when he came back from his trip.
be comfortable having the photos taken,
photos were taken inside and outside.
about her age; felt that
that was not of age.
into the massage room to restock lotion
giving EPSTEIN a massage. would have been nude when this t was ok to take photos.
day took photos of
was told that EPSTEIN would want
asked where
ei cher inside or outside.
remembered talking
knew her age, saying it was obvious
recalled a time where came
while was in the middle of she would
The
to
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This man
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happened. stated after the first few times she gave EPSTEIN a
massage, the routine had changed to where she would be nude when EPSTEIN
came in the room.
recalled seeing MAXWELL in nude photos with EPSTEIN.
assumed they were a couple but never asked.
received calls to set up times for her to go to EPSTEIN's home.
These calls were sometimes from MAXWELL. Early on, received calls
from MAXWELL then the calls came from . Most of the time,
received calls from felt MAXWELL was aggravated that
was there a lot.
After had been going for years, MAXWELL asked her if she had
found any friends. MAXWELL said something like, "Oh have you found any
younger friends yet". took this to mean younger than her. MAXWELL
was very casual about it. EPSTEIN had already asked if she had younger
friends. never asked this. described this being a
different feel, like she needed to be replaced. got this feeling
from everyone.
felt more comfortable with
was an adult but younger.
secretary. always saw than
thought
with a book anyone else because
was EPSTEIN's
and a pen.
Towards the end of time with EPSTEIN, she did not know where
MAXWELL had gone, as she was no longer around. MAXWELL was not important to
so she did not ask where she had gone. remained around.
recalled giving a massage to "somebody famous". This man
fondled while he masturbated.
EPSTEIN who told her to massage this man.
living room with EPSTEIN and he was showing her thought it may have been
recalled being in the
artwork on the wall.
was confused. EPSTEIN told her, "I have a friend staying over."
upstairs.
described the man as balding with black hair, older, and chunky.
said, "I'm going to fondle you while
extra money if he could ejaculate on
him, he told her she was good at it. I masturbate." The man would
her breasts. When
recalled being 15
away from home. [Agent note:
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attorney showed her a photo of HARVEY WEINSTEIN and asked if this
was the man. shook her head yes.) When was asked if she
had seen this man in the news recently, said, "no".
had conversations with about other people. went
missing. was worried because she did not know where had
gone. has not had interactions with since.
felt degraded. All of the money she received caused her to have
drug problems.
manage it. would take drugs before going to EPSTEIN's home to
was advised not to talk.
(Agent note: During a break in the interview, when was not in the
room, attorney disclosed they had shown a photo of to
in 2008 and at that time she could not identify
When MAXWELL first met , she introduced herself as "MAXWELL".
called her "MAXWELL".
recalled the packages coming from New York because the FedEx
package said "New York" on it.
received calls from what she assumed was EPSTEIN's house.
assumed the New York numbers she received calls from were cell
numbers. knew EPSTEIN had property in New York.
The cards she received never specifically said her age on them.
felt they were trying to ship her off. would casually mention to
EPSTEIN her birthday was coming up and get cards from him. The senders of
the gifts from New York were EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, or -; it had their names
on it. received gifts randomly and sometimes for her birthday.
In had her son and went to EPSTEIN's home approximately
one to times afterwards. felt uncomfortable being the age she
was. EPSTEIN told her, "You should stay at home and be a mom now." There
were comments about her age. felt it was hinted at when she was
asked if she had younger friends. described her ending with
EPSTEIN as being a "mutual cutoff". wanted to focus on being a
mom.
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When was asked who asked her about bringing younger friends, she
replied, "EPSTEIN and MAXWELL". MAXWELL talked with her about it one time.
It was always casual conversation and they laughed it off.
For every person brought she received extra money.
received $300. wrote down a list of girls she brought and referred
to it in this interview when providing names. brought
, and EPSTEIN told that
was too fat.
EPSTEIN did not like INCUBUS. MAXWELL called and told her
EPSTEIN had concert tickets and wanted to see if was interested in
the tickets. recalled going with to the South Florida
Fairgrounds because that was where the concert was held. was
waiting around and had called EPSTEIN because she did not know who she was
looking for to receive the tickets from. then received text
messages from someone she did not know and was approached by women after
waiting approximately 45 minutes. These women gave her the tickets to
INCUBUS.
When was asked if she remembered being contacted by
investigators, she replied that a lot of people had called her, including
people from England. Every so often, changed her phone number.
believed that she had received a call from investigators back
during the original investigation.
her house recently. remembered the FBI coming to
When was asked if she followed the news, she replied "no".
and her husband tried to watch the Netflix documentary about
EPSTEIN, and started throwing up and crying in the first few
minutes, so they turned it off. husband continued to watch it
without her and told her was on it. did not believe him.
watched a small portion to see and hear how she got away from
EPSTEIN to know she was ok. refuses to watch documentaries about
it. knew EPSTEIN was arrested and had heard he died.
does not listen to other people's stories and experiences.
was involved in a civil lawsuit and gave a deposition.
was not sure when she gave the deposition but recalled it was "back then".
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did not talk to EPSTEIN after leaving. did not recall
phone numbers. still talks with her mother every once in a while.
mother has the same phone number she did when they called her
house. mother's phone number is . Other numbers
that were called to get a hold of were number, and her
cell number.
During the course of this interview, not all subject matter was
discussed.
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